They're calling it the "TransTrans" movement. Posted pic related to crystal cafe about an hour ago.It's an amusing idea, but it was dreamt up by a bunch of feminists, so I can't tell whether it's based or not.
>>73452880you are a faggot and you should kill yourself
>>73452898STFU bigoted transtransphobe! Love always wins <3 <3 <3
>>73452880Fills my cold heart with joy to know women hate you <3
>>73452904you are a sad strange little man fren
>>73452880terfs strike me as weird sadists
Lol none of this shit is even real I'm so tired of everything being so fucking insane lately. I feel like we shifted timelines recently.
>>73452945All they do is make fun of trannies from a distance
>>73453020yeah but they mock and dehumanize every little thing about them. seems like what a torturer in orwell's 1984 would do. scary people.
Literally dead in the water. It's funny how terfs have their own vocabulary but I never hear it outside of their locked down terf website.
>>73452880She put way too much low IQ thought into a pretty simple and obvious joke.It's also weird she thinks this would allow her to "invade 'transwomen only' spaces" or that she thinks she isn't allowed to reject trannies unless she does a larp to gain trans status.And why is she saying she needs to do this to count as "queer representation" at companies when she's already a lesbian?
>>73452880It's not real. These people are just fucking with you guys.
>>73452898yo chad marco love ur songs
Why are terfs so obsessed with trannies?
TERF shit is all over girl forums. it seems a disproportionate reaction to 1% of delusional guys putting on wigs. but i have a theory. guys are very autistic and online, most girls are boring normies that live life on easy mode offline putting on makeup and charming chad or whatever it is they do, so the few girls that are online are surrounded by these larping dudes. it's probably annoying for them.
>>73453096i talked to that guy one time 6 months ago on discord what a nice fella
>>73453113yeah he's proper NEET representation
>>73453025So? Trannies do the same to everyone, especially on the internet
STAY AQAY FROM MY TRAIN TRAIN SHIRT! UOH SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKS ORIgA SEXU AUITTA GA SHINU! SAAAAAIKS SAAAAAAIKS TAKESHI Sexu surinande yamero konicha ori jetinga Tai zettai sexu omeijecht tit mo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>73452880Its based, just using their own logic to out maneuver troons.
enemy of my enemy is my friend, sounds based and we need all the help we can get to push it up to 50%
I may greet from Kazakhstan but terfs are based
TERFs conflating sex with gender again, which you'd obviously know I'd point this out. Sex is almost always obvious from genitalia but intersex people make this not 100% confident. Being a woman/man would be defined by your mental construct of your gender. There is no mental construct of "transwoman" because that is obviously just a mental construct of "woman".
>>73453837Why do trannies always use rare genetic unfortunates as an excuse for their depravity
>>73452880women will never have the drive, the emotional intelligence and the passion to run their psyops. They will never have an ideologically motivated group like incels, they're just not cut out for it.
as far as jokes about trans people goes, the suicide thing, "dilate your festering wound", "you are a pedophile" and the rest of the boilerplate stuff is way funnier. even "i identify as an attack helicopter" is funnier. i struggle to imagine "transtrans" seriously offending anybody
>>73453866You underestimate how fragile tras areSuperstraight made them shit themselves
>>73453861People like you almost never care about science, studies, or reasoned conversation. They'll just post soijaks or a collage of the most ugly/nonpassing reddit tranners they found. Loud minority of reddit/twitter tranners who are un-self-aware, commies, extremely low IQ, etc. that they focus on. Most tranners just want to get on with their day, not be harassed, and have family, friends, and lover who accept them.
itt seethe. ywnbaw.
>>73453889All troons are retards, all male troons are fetishists
>>73453837> conflating sex with gender againNo, YOU conflate gender with sex. If you didn't believe that then you must not believe in transition surgery because it doesn't reflect that dicthonomy.> intersex people make this not 100%What do intersex people have to do with trannies? Completely unrelated and not representative of the population, not to mention that they still reveal sex to be binary as they don't have traits alien to the two sexes or serve an evolved purpose. > Being a woman/man would be defined by your mental construct of your genderMan and women are defined by the phenotype.
>>73452880This is just Super Straight but for womenIts stupid
It makes troons seethe so it's unbelievably based.
>>73452880It won't workIn the hellworld known as 2023 all time spent with biowomen is commodifiedIn other words, biological women are incapable of "invading" spaces because they're valuable objectsJust look at F2Ms "invading" homosexual male dating spaces, the gays don't care and say a holes a hole while the F2M breaks down because men don't have to tiptoe around saying they want to fuck in gay dating.Meanwhile a small group of M2Fs can completely obliterate lesbian communities if not forcefully excluded because even an incel amount of male initiative for approaching women romantically will drown out 20 or so lesbians.No matter what mental illness someone born with a cunt between their legs conjures they will never be able to stop themselves and others from viewing them as an asset.Likewise, someone born with a dick will always be a threat/competition.
>>73454463biological women totally did invade the trans space lol90% of trannies are fucking theyfabs
>>73452880Very based. I'm definitely on their side and rooting for them.
>>73454483obnoxious lesbian theyfabs stay in dyke bars so they're in the same spaces just with different pronounsnobody is cares about the ones who fuck men because putting up their nonsense is worth it for pussy
>>73452880I could see it causing some asshurt online, but dressing like a clown 24/7 is a lot of effort and I don't think they'd bother. If it actually does spread to offline work environments it'd just make the the women look worse by comparison because anyone with eyes can tell a tranny from an actual woman. The fact that it's documented like this at all means it probably won't take off, except maybe as a means for some lesbos to signal each other.
>>73452880Funny as fuck, also there's no reason according to troon logic why this isn't possible. If you can identify as woman with no wother basis than just identifying as that, then you can identify as transwoman.
>>73454586Dyke bars are barely a thing anymore. Are you stupid
>>73453915>No, YOU conflate gender with sex. If you didn't believe that then you must not believe in transition surgery because it doesn't reflect that dicthonomy.Transgenderism has a massive contradiction which is that the act of transitioning is by definition transphobic, if a woman really could be anyone, they wouldn't need to get hormones, make decisions to hide their penis'/cut them off, or get plastic surgery.
>>73452880Just reinforces my belief that anyone obsessed with trannies, whether for them or against them, is mentally ill.
>>73454621obnoxious lesbian theyfabs stay in LESBIAN SPACESthere, happy?
>>73452880I think I may have finally just stopped caring these past few months.Everything is so absolutely ridiculous and any attempt at fixing anything is roadblocked or subverted by loons and dunces, so fuck it; I really don't even care anymore. >so I can't tell whether it's based or notBoth, neither, who gives a shit. It's just some retards being retarded because some other retards were being retarded.
>>73452880This is funny but useless. The trans movement destroyed the feminist movement, but non-binary people are destroying the trans movement at an event faster rate
It's obviously making a joke at the expense of trans people and is logically incoherent, so will fail just like "super straight" did. The idea behind trans people is that they are identical to their identified gender on the inside. To identify as a woman when you are biologically a man (be a transwoman) means that your body and societal role does not match your brain, and that with some correction (hormones and surgery) this can be remedied, otherwise you are a woman. To be trans-trans would mean you thought you were a transgender woman as a woman, but in the eyes of progressives, there is no distinction between trans women and real women aside from their physical characteristics. You would just be a woman that thought she was a woman, as such, trans-trans, doesn't exist. Encoded in "trans-trans" itself is the assumption that trans women are not real women. This contradicts trans ideology and is not consonant with it, thus not a real own. There is no "Ha! we caught you using your own logic! bite the bullet!" moment. It goes without saying that trans women are not real women, but this is not going to change any neutral party's mind. It just comes across as mean spirited bullying. Pretty characteristic of Crystal Cafe, actually.
I'm just going to leave this here and then go to sleep: Texas reassignment law just paves the way for medical solicitation in chat rooms to generate tax credits for their practicing surgeons and board members of the trans-demonic penis dismemberers. I've been in chat with prostitute larpers whom are mostly health staff soliciting. Good day, hail master shake.
can someone post that comic of that girl becoming a mtf trans, and getting "that authentic trans look"?LOL
It won't work because it relies on using the tranny's logic against them, which doesn't work because they possess no logic and don't care about reality. Why would they? They think men who put on dresses become women.The only way to deal with trannies is to mock them. Just call them faggot ACK-wound pedophiles. Mock mock mock. If not mock, then just dismiss as insane. Don't take them seriously.
>>73455106Also, TERFs and others arguing against transgender ideology are destined to lose so long as they fail to understand what their opponents are actually saying (as this stunt demonstrates) and frame their arguments in pure material terms. Any objection they raise on scientific grounds can be resolved with further developments in technology. >"You have no womb, you have no ovaries."Then what will they say when wombs and ovaries are able to be implanted into someone? Their argument will collapse. You can see how all of these types of arguments can be made against anti-trans points couched in science. You need something more. Of course TERFs themselves are petrified to make other kinds of arguments, because it opens the door for criticism of women.
>>73455182It's the exact opposite. Trans ideology is consistent with science and highly logical. But I don't feel like explaining at the moment.
>>73455217>I will now chop your cock off with my highly scientific scalpel. That will be 50,000 logical dollars.
>>73455217>But I don't feel like explaining at the moment.suuuuuuuuuuure
There are many seething trannies in this thread. For that reason alone, this is based. Simple as
>>73452880I hate trannies far more than i hate bitter lonely feminists Anything that gets trannies to kill themselves
>>73455299i am seething very much and i will approximately kill myself in 6-7 hours
this is hilarious, but its made by women. glad to see theyve finally learned what humor is
>>73455356ganbatte tranon!
I identify as non-binary (but use she/her pronouns) because I'm bilogically not male and not female. Intersex is not really recognized in the lgbtq world, even when intersex people are the only true trans-sex people (because it's their biology). I have XY chromosomes but was born with female genitalia. I grew up as a girl, but with 15 made medical checks because I got no signs of puperty. Then I got told that I have male genetics. That felt pretty weird. I'm sterile and don't have periods, and basically no sexual hormones in my body. When people see me they often can't say if I'm male or female (I have short hair and no make-up). I can't help to see most trans people as pseudo when they have normal bodies. I never asked for this shit.
>>73455106Why does your body need to match your social construct
>>73452880This is just Kikomichan rehashedYeah it's based
>>73455182But that is the point of that meme. It is mocking trannies and highlighting how ridiculous it is
>>73455382You are the exception. No one knows what the fuck to call you. Trannies will take the exception to bend reality, just like every progressive does. But the exception does not make the rule
>>73455428Hes a male with hormone insensitivity.
>>73455382>basically no sex hormones in my bodyShouldn't you probably take hormones of some sort to not have health problems or do you already do that and just mean your hormones are coming from injections or pills?
>>73453063>Literally dead in the waterSuch is the fate of any female movement
>>73455448Yes. But can you call them a man with a literal vagina? Can you call them a woman with XY chromosomes and no ovaries? They are an aberration of nature. It happens sometimes. Trannies are not aberrations, they are men or women who have deluded themselves so hard they believe they are the opposite sex
>>73455401This one was a lot funnier.I'm surprised anyone thinks the OP pic is funny.>>73455299I think you'd be surprised how many of those anons are actually just non-tranny guys. This one's me and I'm not trans:>>73453073And this one is Tranny-kun, another guy who just likes trannies rather than being one himself:>>73453837And this one sounds like a guy who just considers crystal cafe / feminist types worse than trannies:>>73455106You see a similar result when someone makes fun of fat people where actual fat people will more likely respond with "yes, I'm a disgusting piece of human trash" and the "you shouldn't shit on people struggling with a hard problem like that" type replies will more often be from skinny or regular weight people who feel bad on their behalf.
>>73455449NTA but if it is immunity to testosterone then there would not be much point taking it1. It obviously won't work2. It would be much too late for that now even if their body could react to it because they have developed in such a way that they would be even more of a freak if they started developing male sexual dimorphism now. It would probably be best to just not
>>73455517Why would you think testosterone instead of estradiol when she grew up as a girl, has female genitalia, and uses she/her pronouns?That makes no sense.
>>73455449I could get estrogen, and then I probably would get boobs, but I don't trust the products from big pharma.
>>73455510I don't think TERFs are worse than trannies, but they are pretty bad. I think TERFs are idiots, completely misunderstand trans people and trans ideology, and have no clue what the fuck they are doing.I am like a general, watching over the battle of two enemies. I am pointing out the mistakes in the attacking army, my lesser enemy. They are very sloppy, and making many mistakes, and are about to be encircled in a pincer movement.
>>73455534Because I automatically assumed you were retarded. Too many retards here I always think they mean the stupid thing rather than the logical thing
>>73455555Quints of five, I am undeniably on the right path.
>>73455555>completely misunderstand trans people and trans ideologyElaborate on this. In what way? TERF's only dislike trannies because they hate men so much and they see it as men doing a pale imitation of actual women and they see it as men invading female identity and dictating what it means to be a woman. That's just it. I think the second concern is a valid one, the rest is contrarianism out of their hatred for men. They don't consider that Trannyism is literal insanity and unhealthy for any society to entertain. It's only all about them. So if that's what you mean then I would agree
>>73455549I'm not a fan of doctors or the pharmaceutical industry either but estradiol is pretty basic and dirt cheap and not really something anyone has much incentive to do anything weird with in its manufacturing. And it's not even really a tranny specific thing, half of young women nowadays are on it in birth control pill form and lots of older women take it for menopause.
>>73452880So here is how this works, whatever the kikes think is the best way to clown society is what they will let happen. So either the "Trans Trans Woman" have to become so ridiculous like that teacher who wore the fake fits that it became a disgusting sideshow and was still doing damage, or they will fold them up.You can't game the system. It's not designed for you to win Kikes and Leftists are shameless hypocrites who will say or do anything.
Low IQ /pol/chuds ITT just repeating that they think gender = sex. The way that I think gender identity works is that there is a mental construct in your mind that you can sense, tease at, and can feel, especially when you firmly believe you're a man/woman.Some utterly deranged trans twitteroids think that trans women are biologically female or whatever, but that's an untenable position.I don't think being a trans woman also is about just wanting the roles of a woman, since you can just be like a femboy/house husband or whatever, but trans girls still wouldn't be happy with just that. Gender identity is a mental thing, and it interacts with the social landscape, but it doesn't just mean social shit.Also, nobody except the insane is saying you choose your gender identity.You can disagree with how this framework, but you just repeating your framework isn't an actual response
>>73453107yeah could be, but in recent years its more likely they are just searching for another strawman to put a blame on whymen dont approach them, so they found the new trendy femboys and just blame it on all trans peoplelike, even if I was against trannies, I could not for the life of me find the strenght to care what 2% of the population does to themselves
>>73455620I can explain but it's going to take me at least thirty minutes to write and compress to 2,000 characters. The tl;dr:Trans ideology is a logical continuation of feminist ideas. TERFs want to make an unprincipled exception (google this term and read about it) to the ideas that underlie feminism itself for no reason aside from the fact it inconveniences them. They also try to argue against trannies on scientific grounds but their arguments are weakly scientific, and any argument that more strongly appeals to biology will if taken to its conclusion, dissolve their own RF views. It's worth noting that this argument they refuse to make, that gender (not sex) is biologically determined is not as aligned with "the science" as the alternative view, that gender is a "spectrum." and so in using science they further dig the hole, but not even conservatives can figure this out, so.
I wish people actually treated trannies like they do on the internet, girls won't stop walking up and complimenting me because I'm tall and beautiful (for a amab) and I want them to leave me alone.If I wanted attention from girls I wouldn't be fucking trans would I.
>>73452880As an actual full grade chud, this shit is goofy. Shapiro tier checkmate liberals goofiness, this will be forgotten in a week just like how the cringe that was superstraight was, though ss was worse because it seceded straightness so people could claim straight while engaging sexually with trannies.You cannot logic trap the mentally ill, you cannot negotiate with the mentally ill, all that works is supression legally or otherwise in minecraft.
>>73455401>picrelMan, that one kills me every time, I'm howling, lol.
>>73453100Because that the true nature of women, they only give a shit about a man money mostly, and if theres more girl than guy as no girl almost is stupid enough to transition to a man, then the chance of them getting their paypig is lowered. Its the same reason that makes these bitches complain about the paygap while complaining there not enough good man
>>73455991I haven't met a lot of TERFs, but the ones I have met seem to fall into two archtypes. One, the damaged old man-hating dyke who was touched by an uncle or father, and is traumatized into asexuality or lesbianism, and just fears all men and suspects all men to be predators. They were pitied for being victimized, and never expected to work through their virulent misandry.Second flavor is the young tradwife wanna-be, she's down with the patriarchy, she knows she wants to be the right hand woman to the big boss man, so she helps reinforce the social hierarchy and order in any way she can. From God to her husband to her to her children, and then everyone else beneath, there's an order and she will enforce it.
>>73456442second type doesn't seem that much feminist
>>73456116It's a bit weird how much people think trannies are actively pursuing regular women when most of them have impaired erectile function and even the female attracted ones tend to just date each other because they know an XX girl could decide at any moment to falsely accuse them of domestic violence or rape and no jury in existence would ever side against that girl.XX women seeking out trannies seems way more common than cases like pic related which is probably a fake profile anyway given how most trannies wouldn't name themselves "Amanda" but someone looking to smear trannies would find that name amusing as a pun.
>>73456457Then my friend, you don't know women. Women will gladly wear pants, drive cars, vote in elections, and get abortions all while its convenient for them, and the moment they sense they can hitch up with a trad guy to elevate them higher? They shrug off the old and reinvent themselves as Tradwife Sally. Feminism is nothing but opportunism, the Tradwives of today were whoring around on the downlow in college. If their big daddy husband were to tragically die, these tradwives will either find another husband or reinvent themselves as a liberated independent mama bear suddenly.
>>73456442Most of them larp as lesbians but are more like that second type where they're just straight women.You can see that in the OP pic where she's ostensibly calling herself a lesbian and saying she wants the ability to reject trannies without being shamed for it but then she's also saying that identifying as trans herself would allow her to get "queer representation" privileges at companies. If she were a lesbian she would already count as "queer representation."It's like they hope people will get angrier at trannies if they pretend to be lesbians who are being pressured to date trannies.
why do i have to see this tranny garbage every fucking day on this board? you all belong on lgbt, get the fuck out of here. literally everyone hates you, both trannies and tranny haters. no one gives a fuck
>>73456492I think the most recent example of this is Elizabeth Holmes, who when got into trouble changed her name, style, dropped the butch voice and presents herself as a loving mother in order to lighten her sentence.You wouldn't separate two darling kids from their mommy now would you?
>>73456549I agree. Trannies r good for porn though
>>73455449he is larping as the perfect counter argument dude, just ask for evidence of who he is and he falls apart because is larp is not real.
when will this trans shit stop? im so Ovarit...
>>73452880kek this is funny as fuck and it makes me extremely angry that I didn't think of it. wtf is wrong with me? This is so fucking genius. Fuck all you faggots for coming up with this and being smarter than me. Now I'm going to go in a corner and both cry and chuckle.
I'm not a radical feminist, but I am trans exclusionary.I love the LGB
I hope trannies win and abolish feminism. Then there will be no one to defend them from being correctly labeled as mental illness and we will also abolish trannyism. World will once again become a normal place.
>>73455991>Trans ideology is a logical continuation of feminist ideasHow so?Transexualism and feminism are both liberal ideas. Transexualism is the logical continuation of liberalism, but not of Feminism necessarily. You could say Transexualism is a more liberal ideology than Feminism since it seeks to liberate humanity from sex it's self. But as far as feminism goes, if it is to be consistent then TERF is the most sound logic. Liberalism it's self is just full of contradictions because it is founded on falsity>muh gender isn't sexTraditionally it is also not your tranny interpretation either. Gender is an abstract philosophical principle and when applied to biology it takes the form of sex. Sex is gender. Gender is sex but also a much wider term. It does not mean delusions in ones head. This is incredibly childish
>>73457764Feminism asserts that men and women are equal. If men and women are equal, then any differences in outcome between them must be caused by institutional sexism and the patriarchy. That is what feminists believe. If there are less women geniuses than men it is not because men are biologically smarter than women, (they are,) it is because women have been oppressed by men and their genius historically undermined. If women earn less money than men, it's not because women have different personality profiles to men that explain this discrepancy, it's because they are being oppressed unfairly.This argument is picked up by trans activists. If men and women are equal, then it stands to reason that the difference between them is arbitrary and imposed on them by society. A "woman" is just a social role you are assigned, it is socially constructed. If it is a social construct, then you can play around with you identity and socially construct yourself as a woman, after all, men and women are the same fundamentally. TERFs have to assert that actually, men and women differ biologically, and that these gender roles are predicated on real biological differences, not cultural signifiers. In doing so they would open themselves up to attack from the right, people like me. It's worth noting that not even feminists of the 20th century made such claims, that biology determined gender, so this would be a rightward shift for the TERFs, and one that I think they cannot take while being consistent with their radically feminist world views.
>>73457158Seriously, everything was going along just fine with LGB. No problem. Even crossdressing was fine because people weren't insisting you believe something false. How did we get to this point???
>>73457960One key thing to oppose is the concept that gender is "assigned" at birth. It's not assigned, it's determined.TERFs are doomed though. Wimpy movement going nowhere supported by weak women. TERF is a nothing-burger.The reason the trannies are winning now (and why they will ultimately win the war) is the exact same reason gays can get married now - it's because the people behind the movement are white men. These white men have an extremely well-defined purpose that they're all behind together: pushing forward their same favorite autogynephilic perversion.The reason trannies will win the war is that it's impossible to win a fight through self defense alone. You can't just "be against" something and win. You have to have a specific thing and be for it. Until we have our own specific thing to fight *for* (rather than against) we will be on the losing side.
>>73457960different anon replying here, do you think anything will ultimately come out of this divide or will it just fester?also do you see this as a gateway into transhumanism? where anyone can be anythingplease forgive my blatant ignorance
>>73457960>biologically smarterlmaoThis is why I read r9k pseud posts.
>>73457961Your problem with trannies is just that they call themselves women?Would you be fine with them if they just took hrt and called themselves estrogenized males or something instead (basically how ladyboys in Thailand work)?My take as an old millennial guy is we used to just see trannies as an exotic porn category and then zoomers started showing up on 4chan and having autistic shit-fits about them not really being women and focusing on the ugly non-passing ones instead of the hot passing ones in a way that's really tiresome.I think trannies themselves (or certain trannies rather, like the ones on twitter) are maybe 10% to blame for this shift in them becoming a politically charged topic and the remaining 90% is non-tranny zoomers inexplicably going crazy about a group of people so rare I've never even seen one in real life after over 3 and half decades of being alive.
>>73457995If gender is determined at birth then gender has roots in biology, and is not socially constructed. This means that there are real biological differences between men and women beyond reproductive organs, and that once again, undermines the TERF argument entirely >>73458067I think that TERFs may take over the conservative parties of the leading Western nations, like the neo-cons did in the 70s and will like all conservatives, repeatedly lose, and eventually, maybe a few decades later, concede, just as conservatives have conceded on the gay marriage question. They'll be a minority among feminists and women generally.As technology gets better, you'll start to see more Frankenstein like things. Implanting ovaries and wombs into trannies, or creating a child from two biologically male parents. As most trans people will be trans since they were prepubescent (what the whole trans toddler thing is about) you'll start to see trans people pass more often than they do. Men will not care (they will want to fuck them, like they want to fuck the passing trannies now) and most women will go along with the dominant social narrative (as they always do.) Only a few curmudgeon TERFs, and right wing extremists like me will care. >>73458072Intelligence is determined by your brain morphology, which is determined by your genes. Ah yes, liberals, remember, evolution stopped right at the head!
>>73452880>feminists, so I can't tell whether it's based or not.Nothing a feminist ever does is based.
>>73458166I agree with everything you just said. However, I'd like you to address my point about us (conservatives) losing this war because we're fighting *against* something rather than *for* something.Next, I'd like you to help devise a *something* that we should start being *for* which would benefit us which we may not have today or may not have as much as we'd like. If the trannies are bending science and common sense to get their perversion accepted, we need some kind of Christmas present also. What should we be for???
>>73458074It is correct for you to ask me what my problem with trannies is. Apart from being against pushing that ideology on kids and a general feeling of disgust, I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with it. I don't mind using pronouns if the person is polite.I know a trans man personally and "he" truly is a delightful person with a good vibe.Am I really that upset because there are a bunch of people out there saying 1 + 1 = 3? For that matter, who's pretending harder: religious people or trannies?
>>73458166I forgot to finish. >>73457995A lot of trannies are paradoxically the most masculine of masculine men, high status go getters, former Navy Seals, that kind of deal. They became trans to maximize their status, as in this clown world trans people are at the very top. As such, TERFs are competing with occasionally, some of the "best" men out there. I think of "Alana" McLaughlin and Caitlyn Jenner.>>73458295...Conservatives have been losing for centuries, not decades, so it is not a problem I can solve. I am for reality, adhering to reality. Leftism is all just deviations from reality. Fantastical ideas about how the world and its people work, enforced by the state. The reason conservatives are always "against" something can be explained through analogy. I am not "pro arm working," when my arm is working I hardly think about it. It is only when things go bad (my arm is in pain) that I have anything to think about it. Conservatives are the same, things used to be working properly and are not, can we go back to how it used to be? The reason leftists are "for" things is because there are all kinds of ways to make an arm hurt, but only one way for it to function. Here's the truth: America was always a leftist country, and the Constitution is a leftist document. I can find a conservative that agrees that racism is correct, "sexism" is correct, but scarcely any will admit that democracy is a mistake. The moment you have to have a debate, and to convince millions of other people to do something is a "arm not working" moment. Look at every single effective state in modern history. El Salvador, Rwanda, Singapore. Is it any coincidence it's anti-democratic? So, my view, is that it's already over. The frame of even having to "be for something" means that you lost. You should just govern effectively, like Lee Kuan Yew. The tl;dr, is nothing is getting fixed. It's like trying to fix Rome in the 300s. Live a good life and flee to Byzantium if necessary.
>>73458521And obviously, the US is more successful in an economic sense than Rwanda and El Salvador and is a better place to live, but that's because the quality of human capital is the best in the world here. We can be extremely successful while being extremely retarded. However, El Salvador and Rwanda are far better governed than America despite the people being more retarded and succeed because... they're not very democratic.
>>73458521Fuck. I think you're right. Thank you for answering my post Mr. 2nd. You're right about being "for" things as being a cope. You don't have to be "for" the truth because it just is. You have to be "for" 1 + 1 equaling 3 because you need to gather lots of people to pretend with you.Excellent insights. You are a very smart dude. This is why I love 4chan. Thanks again for your answers. I hope you have an awesome weekend! May you get lots of blowjobs while relaxing on a yacht with nude women walking around and all your favorite snacks.
>>73457960>Feminism asserts that men and women are equal. If men and women are equal, then any differences in outcome between them must be caused by institutional sexism and the patriarchyAh right, I agree. This applies to all of liberalism/progressivism>TERFs have to assert that actually, men and women differ biologically, and that these gender roles are predicated on real biological differences, not cultural signifiers. In doing so they would open themselves up to attack from the right, people like meYes, it almost goes with out saying. These people are still liberals and really they are only choking on their own poison. It is funny reading TERF posts talking about how they used to be pro trans. It's just peak irony. And then they make arguments like this which exposes the cognitive dissonance they holdBut you said >completely misunderstand trans people and trans ideologyI thought you meant their point of view. The whole gender not = sex and it's all a construct thing (which was thought up by a perverted pedo btw). However many TERF's still hold this nonsense in their heads yet it all goes out the window when it comes to "mtf" trannies which is just comicalTheir anti tranny memes are funny though
>>73452880As a tranny this shit seems extremely funny and ineffectiveyou know those gotcha comics that feminists make sometimes where it's like "reversed gender roles"? like a guy playing a video game while getting sexually harassed by women on voice chat or getting cat called on the street or something like thatthe feminists that draw those think that by satirizing stereotypes they are exposing unfair treatment and that men are gonna see it and finally have some revelation to empathize with women. it's a completely naive approach that fails to recognize their own privilege this is exactly what OP pic feels like to mei welcome TERFs doing this. i actually WISH they would but i just know they wont because they're way too pathetic and don't actually have anything driving them other than resentment
