First for everything gay

>>83085985
>which type is most likely to feel ashamed of their family?
>which type is most likely to backstab their friends?
>which type is most likely to lie?

CIA personality assessment
https://www.pasf.org/pasq/

Threadly reminder that patches penis is never coming back

>>83086167
I posted the link on the last thread, Iu Rc Uo for me

>>83086202
I got Io Rc Ao
An introspective, disciplined conformer
Pains me to my heart

>>83086167
Twenty fucking minutes? Who the hell has that kind of time
If I can't take your test and get instant feedback gratification in about 30 seconds, then I don't want it

>>83086442
It's 70 yes or no questions, and then an additional 30 questions because it takes 2 parts

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>>83086447
TWO PARTS!!?

>>83086519
https://www.pasf.org/pasq/pasqb.htm
Yeah but for the second part you need to know your first part

>>83086167

I got Iu Fu Ao

"Visions, intuitive judgments of an abstract nature, and psychic phenomena of all kinds are possible and occur frequently. This cluster may include people who range from being highly abstract religious and moral philosophers to self-involved and insulated schizophrenics."

"The soothsayers, oracles, and prophets of the past, and the primitive witch doctors of the present, probably come from this cluster."

wowie... (wat)

>>83086562
sounds like you need to take your meds

>>83085985
>>Type
ESFP-T
>>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
No, I believe he's sitting on the couch next to me.
>>do you brush your teeth enough?
Probably not.
>>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
Once again, I hate to say it, but it's probably me.

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>>83086546
That was not worth the time. I should have went with my intuition. Looks like an Indian made this

>>83086814
sybau anime bitche

Which one of you Anons made that test? There is no way the CIA uses that. I don't believe it . . .

>>83086839
its a pretty old test

>>83086834
English, if you would?

>>83086844
The spelling and grammar were atrocious

>>83086845
shut the fuck up faggot and get your cock off your ass thats what i said you cock-sucking shit-eating cunt

kris rekt

>>83086855
What has you upset, Anon? Can't handle someone criticizing your work?

>>83086866
>kris rekt
That awful fucking test sure did rekt me. Holy fuck man

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>>83086876
i just randomly felt like acting like the possesed girl from the exorcist lole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1kJYnLV1kE

Does anyone know if anozzle has nice feet?

I've never seen them, but I suspect they are very pretty

>>83087091
>I've never seen them, but I suspect they are very pretty
Playing coy, huh? Okay, name your price.

>>83086157
>which type is most likely to backstab their friends?
>which type is most likely to lie?

any type can be a normalfag

>>83087149
do you think r9k reggies are less likely to lie than a normie

Offering to trade Melania coin for any feet pics of
anozzle
Rxy (willing to pay a premium here)
Patch

>>83087175
if they are principled.
feelers are more likely to be principled.
so i guess most likely not to lie would be INFP.

maybe INTJs too, perhaps because of their Fi (?)

>>83084212
Not as far off as i'd like. I worry about him, and the others, sometimes. I wish i could know that he's alright, at least. I've been here here and there, neither hiding nor making myself known. I did so earlier out of some vain hope someone would say, "i'm doing well, let me tell you all about it..." or something like that. "Here's what i've learned while you were gone...", anything nice like that. Obviously, i still want that. It's a selfish thing to want, and self destructive. I can't really be called Anonzzle anymore accurately, though now i am speaking through his memory and body, so it wouldn't be so inaccurate to call this after him.
>>83085193
The universe isn't limitless. That distinction isn't real. The answer to the question "what is beyond" is the same, that being nothing. The output is the same, the distinction between those two inputs is an illusion used to argue certain points ultimately unrelated.
>>83085101
One can only give as much as they are given, but of that the may give much or little. Humans are necessarily cybernetic. Your environment is part of you, just as you are part of your environment. You are seemingly conscious of your effect on your environment, but not your environment's effect on you... if only there were a word for such a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1Zcngd3VA
>>83085584
INFJ-A is almost always right.
>>83085628
He did have a point, though, he didn't know it. That point being that Jung is yet too advanced for most. We've regressed as a society, as a race, even worse than heathens we are now. Jung is good, but the people aren't ready: They would wreck themselves upon wisdom and not sink yet die.
>>83084566
*glomps you*
In other news, we finally got snowfall~! \(^o^)/
Lucky! We got flurries here, but that's all. Maybe i'll have to go on a little trip, so i can build myself a substitute snow Turbie.
>S-see you maybe in another time~! :3c
Everyone will meet again one day, some say.

>>83087225
>INFJ-A is almost always right.
Delulu take, that dude is a satanist

>>83087295
>>83087295
>>83087295
and what are u

>>83087225
>That point being that Jung is yet too advanced for most.
Absolutely. It would be akin to giving a chainsaw to a 9 year old. Not only that, but most people don't want what Jung has to offer. Much like how most don't want what Nietzsche has to offer.
They only want it in the glorified simple terms that the Last Men have presented it. What they teach is a fire to forge oneself in, it has been transformed into an LED light that barely emits heat. The chainsaw has been transformed into an inflatable balloon toy for incandescent, overgrown toddlers to play with and pretend they're foresters.
>>83087295
Baah. I'm nowhere close to a Satanist. But, we've been over this.
God is not all good. That is impossible.

>>83087398
You believe that Satan and God are the same thing.
You are a Gnostic.
You don't know YHWH of the Bible.

>>83086562
>>83086598
honestly this just sounds like socionics IEI

>>83087386
>>83087398
>God is not all good. That is impossible.
You are not with Most High, then you are against Him.

My King is Jesus Christ.

Psalm 92:15
To declae that YHWH is upright; He is my Rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His ways are judgement: an Elohim of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He.

Romans 9:14
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness in Elohim? May it never be!

God is all good, He is Moral perfection. Evil exists not because YHWH is not all Good, but because He grants free will and allows evil choices to expose truth, test faith, and refine the righteous.

>>83087407
it does sound a bit like socionics, they were also both developed in the 1970s-1980s

>>83087444
bruh moment confirmed. dis nigga xtian

>>83087406
There is no such thing as Satan. There is only God in his perfectly infinite state of mediation between pure evil and pure good.

Everything is of the creation of God. That means everything which exists, be it good or evil came from God. That means both good and evil came from God. That means good and evil both exist within God.

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>>83085985
got bored after 6/10 or something

how do u faggots waste so much time

i bet yall broke and have no bugatti

>>83087495
>There is no such thing as Satan
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the World he didn't exist.

Time to watch the movie 'The Usual Suspects' or read some https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/03/20/devil/

>>83087507
Imagine her POV when she's being raped. Her tits bouncing around for the camera. That'd be heaven....

>>83087295
He's many things, but yes he is also a satanic individual

>>83087225
How much for feet pics?

Another episode of TE airing out satanic fucks is on

>>83087495
Basically you can only believe these things when you reject scripture and love the ways of man. Which is why it is not wrong to declare you satanic.

1John 1:5
"Elohim is light, and in Him is no darkness at all."

Satan's existence is repeatedly affirmed in scripture, Job, Matthew, Revelation, Isaiah, Denying him erases the distinction between obedience to YHWH (Which is Good, Holy, Set apart) and rebellion (which is sin).

Evil proceeds from creations opposing the Torah, not from within The Most High.
All praises.

>>83087528
The greatest trick the church ever pulled was convincing the world the devil does exist, so that you require them to acquit you of your sins.
Nothing is more evil than casting your own shadow on the people beneath you, then calling it their sin to carry.

I could go on about your false, one sided idol for hours. But I must sleep.
>>83087593
>Evil proceeds from creations opposing the Torah,
Thank you for proving my point and doing my work for me. I'll copy and paste it here because the context makes it hit a little harder:
>The greatest trick the church ever pulled was convincing the world the devil does exist, so that you require them to acquit you of your sins.

Goodnight, false idol worshiper.

>>83087593
You're wasting your time. Let them burn.
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."

>>83087625
>The greatest trick the church ever pulled was convincing the world the devil does exist, so that you require them to acquit you of your sins.
Damn, I remember what it was like to be in middle school and have these kinds of takes

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>>83087625
You deny the adversary, but you repeat his oldest lie: that there is no accountability and that one may claim godhood.

I have my own sins to carry; I do not carry yours, nor do i judge you for them. I pray that you repent, and turn from your stubborn ways.

I do not follow the Church, but the Way, the Truth, and the Light.

Psst, do you have anymore voice porn?

>>83086070
>anozzle hes always a thread splitter diva
Rather, i was made one. This is a good example of something.
>>83084318
>It's not dumb of you to be hopeful of seeing the good things you want to see
I am not hopeful.
>Wishing it were better is not dumb, it's a good qualify.
A good dumb quality i lack.
>>83087547
Socks on, or off? Would you like to pay extra for express delivery?

>>83087630
Well, I understand your sentiment. Although Vengeance belongs to He above.
It is righteous to warn INFJ-A and those who think he makes good arguments that they are blind to the spiritual war that is right before their eyes.

>>83087691
Why are you so harsh on yourself?
Forget about the stupid feet pics for a minute. You don't deserve to be beating yourself down the way you are

>>83087704
>It is righteous to warn INFJ-A and those who think he makes good arguments that they are blind to the spiritual war that is right before their eyes.
Indeed it is, but how many attempts will you make before you say it is a lost cause? You've led this horse to water many times already. He ain't drinking. Some souls are just eternally damned.

>>83087750
Well mostly it's for the lurkers, when you are throwing seeds into a field sometimes they bounce off rocks and land in fertile soil

>>83087754
Ah, I see. You know, I bought a book because of you. So maybe your seeds are landing after all

>>83087775
Neat what book did you buy?

>>83087822
I mean come on, what book do you think? It was New American Standard

>>83087845
Nice if you don't have e-sword it's a very good application
https://e-sword.net/index.html#features
Lot's of free resources

>>83087887
Wow, now THIS is efficient. Looks like Sierra Charts but for Bible study. I thank you for the share

>>83087907
It is such a good tool, one of the greatest programs

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>>83085985
>Type
INTJ
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
Yes.
>what smell goes with each type?
INFJ - Rain and clean sheets
INTJ - Cedar and smoke
ESFP - Fruit and pefume
ENTP - Metal and Axe Body Spray
INTP - Stinky feet
ISFP - Unwashed armpits

>do you brush your teeth enough?
Not often enough, but I try to make sure and brush after every meal >_<"
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
ESFP, They are just too curious and trusting to care about the creepy man in the van whose missing half his teeth

>Type
ISFP
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
yeah, maybe, no, i'm not waiting forever like infjs
>what smell goes with each type?
isfp vanilla
>do you brush your teeth enough?
most days when i remember
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
INFJ, they so stuppid they don't even know it's a scam

>>83086785
>No, I believe he's sitting on the couch next to me.
wow esfp-tan is married >///<

>>83087149
>any type can be a normalfag
Do you really think that normal people are the only ones capable of deceit and betrayal?

>>83087225
wow this david bowie song is very nice

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>>83085985
>Type
INTP
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
No
>what smell goes with each type?
Not answering all that
>do you brush your teeth enough?
Not recently. Once a day
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
xxFP (ESFP and INFP)

>>83085985
>Type
INFP
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
No
>what smell goes with each type?
INTP: lab chemicals
xNTJ: old funiture
ENTP: burnt sulfur
INFJ: incense
INFP: freshly printed book
ENFJ: wax candle
ENFP: weed
ISxJ: countryside grass
ESTJ: office carpet
ESFJ: bleach
xSTP: sweat
xSFP: nail polish
>do you brush your teeth enough?
Yes, especially after having experienced caries i make sure to brush my teeth after every meal and i floss and use mouthwash every night
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
Why do you keep asking questions like these in the OP when it's obvious that the answer to all of them is INFP

>>83086157
>which type is most likely to feel ashamed of their family?
Any N type, especially if they're from a family of S types
>which type is most likely to backstab their friends?
ENTP
>which type is most likely to lie?
ENTP

>>83087295
Well i don't know if he's a satanist, but he's definitely a retard

>>83090535
>Not answering all that
You're no fun

>>83087593
>reject scripture and love the ways of man
Not a rejection, but a holy eisegesis. Philos is a necessary foundation for agape. How can one love his neighbors and enemies if he doesn't have them?
>John 14:9, "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."
Is Christ not of twin nature?
>>83087718
I don't believe i am harsh on myself, not anymore at least, and not too much anyway. Way i see it, i was being harsh on you, if anything. You mean me well though you misunderstand me; you are kind to me a stranger: you are good; most undeserving of my scorn, however mild. I don't deserve your expressed concern, still i am so selfishly thankful for it. I don't believe i am beating myself down. I hope this was a good reply, i worry it isn't, but can't see it much better.
>>83090743
Tobacco is my incense, and my pipe is my censer: So it was, and so it shall be again.
>>83090452
Blackstar is his best album, but i'm not sure if it's my favorite.
>>83087684
I finally learned to whistle.

>>83091093
>I finally learned to whistle
Play me a tune. Make sure to put some sweet swamp noises too.

>>83091093
Twisting terms, you're confused and swinging above your paygrade.

'Holy eisegesis' is a contradiction as Eisegesis is inserting Man's ideas into scripture, holiness demands separation from man. Holy means Qadosh it is set apart, not corrupt by man. You can have no love at all without the Torah.
Philosophers can get bented i don't give a fuck about philo.

As for Messiah's nature: He is not twin or divided, he is fully divine and fully human, one person not two beings.

John 1:14
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." "For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." These 'two natures' are united in one Spirit. Pure, undefiled, and without evil.


https://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html
For further study, Eisegesis is to have a preconceived notion in which you try to find within the text.
Exegesis is to critically exam the text to see what it says.

>>83091332
>https://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html
"Eisegesis is a mishandling of the text and often leads to a misinterpretation. Exegesis is concerned with discovering the true meaning of the text, respecting its grammar, syntax, and setting. Eisegesis is concerned only with making a point, even at the expense of the meaning of words."

>>83085985
Which mbti type is more likely to pretend to be the opposite sex online?

>>83091587
INTJ if thread history has anything to say

>>83090743
>Why do you keep asking questions like these in the OP when it's obvious that the answer to all of them is INFP
INFPs always say "Me it's my type"
INFJs always say "Me it's my type"
ESFPs always say "Me it's my type"

>>83091332
>you're confused and swinging above your paygrade.
This is a bit rude, of my prose.

I didn't learn the difference between Exegesis and Eisegesis, or that they even existed until about a year ago so, they are complex thoughts

>>83091626
Every question that asks what type is most likely to be bullied or hurt by X the answer is INFP, it's always INFP

https://youtu.be/nD5_6K8uVJE?si=U0odaIWsJp8_Wgaj

>>83090778
A retarded Satanist. Fitting

>>83091775
Well that's redundant

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>>83091093
>I don't believe i am beating myself down
Hmm. All right . . . Now, I'll much prefer the socks on, please. I want to be able to let the imagination run wild on those beauties. That's the entire point. Fantasy fuel. I don't want bare reality staring me in the face, reminding me they are male specimens. Though, I'm always in the market for bare feet if they are sufficiently discounted. I'll pay more in bulk for multiple pairs and various issues of socks. The more the merrier. And whatever angles you want. No specifications there. Go wild

>>83091827
Yeah, KEK, I was going to say. Not all retards are satanists, but all Satanists are of necessity retarded.

>rebuking satanists while soliciting feet pics from a man

>>83087704
I don't make good arguments. I point towards your own falsehoods. I need not disprove your false idol, he disproves himself.
Much like the false idols of stoicism worshiping their own rationale.

It takes but just a moment to see that it's a story told by men built on lies.

Is your God all powerful? Yes. We can run with that presupposition.
Does all powerful include all power for evil? Yes. All powerful is all powerful. Both good and evil are within "all".
Your God is not purely good.
Or, your God is not all powerful.
If the men that God created had the ability to disobey and to sin, he created them with that ability. Which means the ability to disobey and to sin is within God.

If Satan exists, a being of pure evil, where did that being come from? Must've come from God. Which means pure evil is also a part of God.
False idol.
There is only one God, he does not have a name, for he is nameless and all powerful. He has the power of all good and all evil. He is the creator of the universe, he is the force which keeps everything together and the bestower of life to all which inhabit it.

Your false idol created by a church in order to enslave men is just that, a false idol to enslave men. You worship a slave master created by slave masters because you are a slave.

>>83091888
>Much like the false idols of stoicism worshiping their own rationale
lel, you're still triggered

>>83091899
Yes, I must admit, liars do bother me. What can I say?

>>83091905
You can say a lot. Understanding a lot, or doing even a little, well that's a different story . . .

I have moral presuppositions that make liars evil.
Stoics have a lack of moral presuppositions that say lying is good if you benefit from it.

Of course I'd be bothered by a cult of liars.
>>83091915
I don't understand a lot. Just enough to know I understand a little. But that's enough to understand enough.

>>83091923
Your snake tongue slithers the words around excellently

>>83091935
Hiiiiissss~~
Yesss, consume of the apple.

Or.. Are you too afraid to learn of the one planted the tree itself? Afraid to be shattered into numinous pieces?
Can't withstand the pressure of staring into the void? Afraid that who and what you are will disintegrate when directly exposed to the power of God?
Hmm?

>>83091923
>Stoics have a lack of moral presuppositions that say lying is good if you benefit from it.
Not that you care about truth (clearly not, lmao), but for the lurkers willing to look past INFA's pseudo intellectual bullshittery . . .

Epictetus, LI
"The first and most necessary topic in philosophy is the practical application of principles, as, 'we ought not to lie'".

>>83092001
And what is the basis for this principle? What metric has been use to determine that lying is something which ought not be done?

Come on, say it.

Enfps are so dang annoying. They're always saying these dumb little platitudes and idioms. Just shut up already! Say something actually original and meaningful or freak off. I am sick of them.

>>83092019
You don't even read the material, and yet you're more than willing to tell us what the stoics said and what they meant; and you tell us who they are, what they valued. You will say that they used the ability to reason in order to derive their principles and then conclude it is reason itself that is the principle -- when it is not. Stoic virtues are not so easily shifted as you wish them to be in order to fit them into superficial word games so that you might do your best to appear of good mind.

How about you spend less time talking and more time reading? (we know you won't)
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/stoicism/

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>>83092185
>If I avoid the question it can't hurt me!
Lel

Come on, you've read it. So how did they come to the conclusion that lying ought not be done?
It's a very simple question.

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>>83092261
Go read for yourself, pseud. After all, the other day you said this
>Sorry, I trust the words of the actual stoics more than i trust your words on this particular topic.
And now you're badgering me to offer you my words which to you are untrustworthy? And why should I bother, then? If you trust their words and not mine (which is fair), then go put your money where your mouth is and find your answer in their own words. Or is investigation a thing that is anathematic to you? (Don't bother answering. The ask was rhetorical)

Jesus christ everyone in this thread is a schmassive faggot

>>83092444
It's because we are all otroverts.

>>83092338
I say that because we both know how they came to the conclusion.
Logos. Which means if you can rationally conclude lying is bad. You can rationally conclude lying is good.

If you don't want to admit it, fine. But you know it's true.

You're more than welcome to disprove it by giving any quote whatsoever that says their conclusion is not based on nor supported by logic or logos. But you won't do that. Because it doesn't exist.

>>83092036
Ne is an awesome cognitive function, the fuck is wrong with you?! In fact i would say Ne-Si > Ni-Se overall

>>83092185
>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/stoicism/

2.7 God
In accord with their ontology, the Stoics make God a corporeal entity, identical with the active principle. God is further characterized as eternal reason (logos: Diogenes Laertius, 44B) or intelligent designing fire or breath (pneuma) which structures matter in accordance with its plan (Aetius, 46A).

Wow. Look at that. It took me less than 10 minutes to find exactly what I've been saying, THAT EVERYTHING DESCENDS FROM LOGIC/LOGOS. WOW. WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT????
OH WAIT.
ME.


Checkmate.

>>83093035
>Ne is an awesome cognitive function.
It is in theory. In practice, not so much.

Ne isn't even a cognitive function in theory. Intuition is a cognitive function.

>>83092873
>Logos. Which means if you can rationally conclude lying is bad. You can rationally conclude lying is good.
Sounds convenient if you want to avoid accountability. On its surface it appears superficially true. But upon deeper inspection you will find (as the stoics did) that just because you can reason why lying is bad, does not mean you can also reason why it is good. The reasoning would be faulty, and you would be in error. Knowing the good use of reason from the bad they called wise discernment. Desire hijacks our sense of reason and tells us that it is reasonable to engage in vice, to commit sin, and to conduct ourselves unethically. But like the devil dealing in half truths, you have reduced a thing down to its parts and rejected the whole. Of course one might reason that lying is good if they ignore the bigger picture, and look at a thing in isolation. It would appear from that limited perspective to be reasonable. But that limited perspective was not itself reasonable; the proper use of reason will dispel the illusion that it was. And it is only within that limited perspective that unethical acts appear reasonable or good. For it is outside the distillation, beyond the isolation, that they are seen for what they are -- that someone let their desire outweigh their sense of reason, and mistook the one for the other.

I wonder if you fail to see the moral goodness in stoic virtue because you lack both goodness and virtue within yourself? I can see how to you it appears the stoics are in contradiction with themselves. It reminds me of what Tolkien said of Evil failing to recognize Good since it can only see itself everywhere it looks.

>>83093415
>Intuition is a cognitive function.
Because Ni and Ne are exactly the same thing.

>>83093228
Why are you so desperate to "win"? You should probably reflect on that.

And so what that the stoics saw the universe as being of logic and by logic? At the heart of your argument here is that the stoics prized logic as the ultimate good. That's simply not the case.

From the same source:
"Stoic philosophy was, from Zeno onwards, conceived of as comprising three parts: physics, logic, and ethics. Each of these parts includes a wide array of further topics nowadays dealt with separately. Logic, for example, includes not only formal logic, but also questions now typically falling under the remit of philosophy of language, epistemology, and philosophy of mind. In addition, all three parts of philosophy were thought by the Stoics to work together to form an interconnected and coherent system (exactly how strongly the claim of systematization is to be taken is disputed; see below). The Stoics emphasized this point with a number of analogies intended to illustrate how the three parts of philosophy fit together and form a whole:

They compare philosophy to a living being, likening logic to bones and sinews, ethics to the fleshier parts, and physics to the soul. They make a further comparison to an egg: logic is the outside, ethics what comes next, and physics the innermost parts; or to a fertile field: the surrounding wall corresponds to logic, its fruit to ethics, and its land or trees to physics. (Diogenes Laertius, 26B; see our bibliography for a guide to citations in this entry)

The latter two analogies seem to point to the idea that the purpose of philosophy, according to the Stoics, is to become virtuous, that is, to attain wisdom and thereby lead the good life, so that the overarching goal (the crop or the egg white, which the ancients assumed was nourished by the yolk) is ethical."


Now, how could it appear to you to be the case that stoic virtue was "only logic and reason" when to them it was but a part ( and not even the most important)?

>>83093228
If you need help understanding the egg or field metaphor, it is not the shell that is most prized, but what is protected within. And with the field, it is not the fence that is the pinnacle of farming -- the fence is merely a means toward better fruit.

I'm not sure how it could be any more clear here. Your characterization of stoic virtue as being just wholly logic and reason is wholly out of touch with reality.

>>83093642
well then ill say this:
Si>Se

>>83093228
I think we might analyze things a little further, even. Consider for instance your desperation to secure a "checkmate" or victory. Your desire here has outweighed your sense of good reason. You don't have a good faith interest in reading the material for discovery. You'd rather cherry pick it for anything that may on the surface appear to confirm and validate your idea that the stoics saw virtue as, in your words . . .
>What did they define as virtuous? Logos. Logic. Reasoning. Self control.
. . . when that is not the case. Logic may have been a part, but it was not the whole as the source you "read" shows. Logic wasn't even the most important part of virtue. But if you want to sift through and cherry pick sound bytes you don't understand in order to secure a win, then go ahead. I think it may be what you do best

>>83093942
that anti-stoicism anonny travelled back in the past to rape himself as a kid. it's like a rape ouroboros, it's crazy shit. i saw it with my own Ni third eye. true story.

>>83093843
Si is based becuase it means you get to see the world like van gogh and you get cool trippy hallucinations and shit

average chad Si-user music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykaj8oZkIeM

>>83093674
I don't fail to see the virtue. Stoics fail to see the evil. There's a difference.
It's a flawed belief structure built upon even more flawed precepts.

Are there some good things within stoicism? Sure. But, even Hitler wanted to help Germany, or something. Doesn't mean he was a good guy. He would define eradicating the verminous plague from his country as a virtuous action. Does that mean he was acting in a virtuous way, simply because he defined it as such?
No.
There's a reason I continue to draw a correlation between Hitler and Stoicism. Because they're both are centered around high control belief systems. Stoicism is effectively an archetypal stand-in for every tyrannically bad guy who wanted to enforce order on every aspect of the world, down to nature itself.

Stoicism suffers from the greatest flaw imaginable. One-sidedness. This flaw permeates all the way down to its core belief, that the universe and it's creator are Logos. Anything that falls outside of Logos, I.E. Chaos, is to be eradicated like the pest it is and forced in line with the higher order.

If you want to practice stoicism, fine, so be it. I'm not here to tell you what to believe or not. I'm just telling you what is.
>>83093674
It's not about winning. That's your own perspective. My perspective is one of truth and falsehood. You are propagating falsehoods in order to defend your ideal.
>And so what that the stoics saw the universe as being of logic and by logic?
Then everything that the stoics believe is based on logic. And everything that is a virtue can be either way. Lying can be virtuous, or it can be evil.
That's the entire point. Everything within stoicism is based on logic. Logic is the highest order, and is to be emulated. Anything that is illogical or irrational is to be destroyed or tamed and placed in shackles.

Logos is the pinnacle of the stoics hierarchy. There is no ifs, and or buts about it. They outright say it. Everywhere.

>>83094415
its obviously about winning and you get all emotional and go all caps out of nowhere.

>>83094460
Obviously I'm going to become annoyed when people (or liars, I should say), come along and claim the thing which I'm saying is a falsehood.
It's not about winning or losing. It's about pointing out liars who spout lies and obfuscate the truth behind flowery, meaningless bullshit because they don't have the balls to confront the truth of the matter.
>"Bu-buh!! BUT!!! Muh s-stoics just value virtues!"
Like, fuck off with this uneducated shit. They value logic, and they value anything which can be derived from it. They directly state it themselves. Their God is literally Logos, if you don't know what that means, read a bewk. Put some knowledge in that vast, vacuous space you call a head.

And anyone with more than 2 functioning braincells to rub together for warmth could apply the stoics logic to their own belief system and it's own foundation would crumble to dust, along with everything built upon it.

you are clearly emotionally invested and think you have to win

>>83094549
"It's about pointing out liars who spout lies and obfuscate the truth behind flowery, meaningless bullshit because they don't have the balls to confront the truth of the matter."
okay let me ask you this: whats the point?

>>83094569
The point is that I'm just quoting the stoics on their own beliefs.

Logos being the highest order is not my own personal belief about stoicism. It's the stoics beliefs about the universe, and there are plenty of sources to cite for this.

>>83091882
Could be a banner.
>>83091332
>not twin or divided
You mean "not twain". Twin is the right word for what you describe. Twin means in this context "two in one", like two babies in one belly. Regardless, the point stands.
>he is fully divine and fully human
What does this tell you about the Father?
>Philosophers can get bented i don't give a fuck about philo
You don't give a fuck about familial love? Why not?
>'Holy eisegesis' is a contradiction
So resolve it.
>"Eisegesis is a mishandling of the text
You can't look up the term i gave you. I've said nothing of Eisegesis, only Holy Eisegesis. You have to resolve the paradox on your own.

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>>83094415
>I don't fail to see the virtue. Stoics fail to see the evil. There's a difference
LOL
Whatever you say man. I'm not even going to entertain your poorly formed, toddler's comparison of stocism to hitler with a serious response. Instead, I'll just quote Marcus Aurelius (whom you had claimed to have read, lmao)

"Begin the morning by saying to thyself, I shall meet with the busy-body, the ungrateful, arrogant, deceitful, envious, unsocial. All these things happen to them by reason of their ignorance of what is good and evil. But I who have seen the nature of the good that it is beautiful, and of the bad that it is ugly, and the nature of him who does wrong, that it is akin to me, not only of the same blood or seed, but that it participates in the same intelligence and the same portion of the divinity, I can neither be injured by any of them, for no one can fix on me what is ugly, nor can I be angry with my kinsman, nor hate him, For we are made for co-operation, like feet, like hands, like eyelids, like the rows of the upper and lower teeth. To act against one another then is contrary to nature; and it is acting against one another to be vexed and to turn away."
Yep. Basically hitler confirmed

>It's not about winning. That's your own perspective
I understand you aren't the sharpest tool around -- this becoming clearer by the day -- but you were the one saying "CHECKMATE!" and going "who could have guessed? Oh that's right, ME!" Now, you saying that it is my perspective that is the one which cares about winning, well that just might be one of the clearest cases of psychological projection I have ever seen . . .
Here. I said it the other day and I'll say it again. You win. You are right about everything. I don't know anything, and there is no need for further discussion.

>I'm just telling you what is
Yeah, I'm sure it appears so to you.

>You are propagating falsehoods in order to defend your ideal
More projection. Keep cooking, it's delicious

>>83094688
No, whats the point of exposing the truth. And to get emotionally invested in exposing the truth, even. Why not let people find the truth on their own?

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>>83094716
Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?

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>>83094549
>Like, fuck off with this uneducated shit. They value logic, and they value anything which can be derived from it. They directly state it themselves. Their God is literally Logos, if you don't know what that means, read a bewk. Put some knowledge in that vast, vacuous space you call a head.
>And anyone with more than 2 functioning braincells to rub together for warmth could apply the stoics logic to their own belief system and it's own foundation would crumble to dust, along with everything built upon it.

7/10
Maybe even 8. Good, but not as good as the meltdown from the other day. I know you can do better if you try

If your post is longer than a paragraph I'm not reading it.

>>83094716
>I'll just quote Marcus Aurelius
>See, look, some good stuff can come from Stoicism!!!
Wowzers. Let's look at the state of Germany and how it basically did a complete 180 when Hitler rose to power! He must've been a great guy!
Some good things came from Hitler, he was such a morally upstanding figure!

This is your argument.
>but you were the one saying "CHECKMATE!"
Simply because you refused to say the thing that would disprove your entire claim. Which, I found in less than 10 minutes from your own source.
Or, to put it more accurately, you got called out for being a liar. Plain and simple.

If you wanted to have a discussion about Stoicism, I would have been happy to do that. But no, you didn't want to do that. You wanted to lie and pretend that the origin of their morals wasn't from Logos, which is directly contrary to their own claims about where morals come from.

You, in this moment, are proof that stoics are willing to lie and uphold those lies as a moral virtue, because the lie itself is in defense of the virtue. You are living proof on how flawed your own system is.
Congrats.
>>83094812
I would hardly call being mildly annoyed by a liar a meltdown. Don't act like I'm Soph losing all cognitive function and telling everyone to kill themselves who disagrees.

>>83094926
What do you gain from revealing the truth? Do you realise how irrational you are?

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>>83094926
Lmao he's still going . . .
9/10
On par with yesterday. But I believe in you, INFJ-A. Stick the landing

>>83094953
Nothing. I gain nothing at all. I only expend, I only lose.
>Do you realise how irrational you are?
Yes. But, I do not care. Rationality is for fools who are consumed by hubris. (See: Stoics)
>>83094970
Shut your ass.

>>83094970
I can't believe this nigger is an INFJ.

>>83094977
bro framing stoicism as nazi and therefore evil was gay as hell you sounded libtarded as shit like jordan peterson or some shit next youre gonna say jacking off to lolis is immoral

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>>83094977
>Nothing. I gain nothing at all. I only expend, I only lose
The reasonable thing to do -- dare I say, the logical thing to do -- would be to stop. But, I think we know by now that you can't stop. To an egocentric, possibly even a narc, image is everything

>>83095029
hey chill out he does it because he has no free will hes like a puppet of the gods hes like a bullet fired that cant stop going forwards hes like a domino in a long line of dominoes and its not his fault that hes gonna crash onto the domino in front of him

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>>83095002
I'm not framing stoicism as nazi. I'm not a retarded libcuck. I'm drawing a correlation. Specifically between the two axiomatic presuppositions between the two beliefs systems. Namely, "order" (opposite of chaos) being of the highest good.
That's not to say that nazis were stoics, or that stoics are nazis. Merely that they share a foundational principle. They're points on a graph. Points that draw a straight line. Straight into tyranny.
>>83095029
I care not for your logic for logic on its own has no merit.
>image is everything
I lol'd. That's golden. I need not specify why.

>>83095076 infj-sama what are your thoughts on undertale

>>83095112
You'll have to forgive men, anon-chama. I didn't play it.

>>83095144
;_; NUUUUUU INFJ SAMA WHY

>>83095163
No particular reason. Usually just playing other stuff and never bothered to buy it.

>>83094716
If you don't care about wining, why don't you 'let' him 'win'? Why did you start up the argument again?
He's telling you there is a problem with the formula, and you keep telling him the output is right. Ethics proceeds from Physics and is bound by Logic, according to the Stoics. They may value Ethics most, say so, or think so, but their Ethics is doubly dependent; twice subordinated. If you don't see that as a problem, fine, that's a different matter from not seeing that it is.
>Marcus Aurelius
Commodus.

Why do you like Stoicism? Are you a Stoic?

>>83095258
>He's telling you there is a problem with the formula, and you keep telling him the output is right.
Thank you. I (literally) could not have said it better myself.

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>If you don't care about wining, why don't you 'let' him 'win'?
he likes the homoerotic tension

>>83094926
Way more than 2 paragraphs. Not reading.

Ew ur saying he wants to suck my peepee as I blast his flawed belief system? that's GAY.

>>83091888
>I don't make good arguments. I point towards your own falsehoods. I need not disprove your false idol, he disproves himself.
>Much like the false idols of stoicism worshiping their own rationale.
Calling Yahweh of the Bible, His Son Yahshua, who the world calls Jesus Christ, that died at the cross for your sins, and the Holy Spirit a false Idol is the height of blasphemy.
I urge you to repent.

Your reasoning collapses on every level.
Moral, Logically, and Scripturally. You are right that you don't make 'good arguments', but you will answer for every soul you mislead.

You keep mistaking creation for Creator and confuse permission with nature.
YHWH is all powerful, but His power is not divided between good and evil, He is perfectly righteous. He is good and worthy of all praise.

Evil is not a *power* of YHWH; it is rebellion against His Word.

"For You are not an Elohim who delights in wickedness; evil shall not dwell within You" Psalm 5:4

Notice how you to have your position you must necessarily throw away the entire Bible?
You call Him a slave master, yet He is the only one frees men from slavery to sin.

My Elohim frees His children from slavery and sin, your vanity keeps you enslaved.

>>83076436
Good short from last thread on dealing with INFJ-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JotobYgEy_g

>>83095258
>If you don't care about wining, why don't you 'let' him 'win'?
Within that very post you replied to, I said he won; and I have pretty much checked out of the discussion at this point.
Must I say he won for a third time? Must I loudly declare that I am walking away? I mean, I should think the low-effort responses accompanied by grinning anime girls would have conveyed that I was no longer interested in entertaining his drivel

>Why did you start up the argument
again?
I didn't start up the argument again. You can go back and really analyze it if you want. In a response to TE, he took a jab at stoicism (still seething from his 'win' from yesterday, I'm sure ) and to that I lol'd and said he was still triggered. To that, *he* began the "argument" again. Go check for yourself, Anon.

>but their Ethics is doubly dependent; twice subordinated. If you don't see that as a problem, fine, that's a different matter from not seeing that it is.
I don't see the problem, no. I even believe a few days ago I conceded that it had its weak points, but that it was still beneficial. Is it rooted in fact? I don't know, and I said that I wouldn't say either way. Only that it had its benefits. That's what the stoics cared about. It's the more important thing. And I must agree with them. If we call an apple an orange, it will still provide the sustenance of an apple. Only we will know it as an orange. Would we be less filled if we called it a banana? No, we would still be filled. We don't need to know the absolute, ultimate lexiconical hierarchy of all of logos and all that which is under it in order to know which thoughts and behaviours lead to virtue and which lead to vice. The results can be observed. Observing these results and practicing principles can lead to a better life, one that is ethical and in accordance with God.

>>83095258
>Why do you like Stoicism?
I think I kind of touched on it in the previous response. I recognize my behaviours and thoughts could use work. Stoicism, I feel, is a fine enough chisel. I know in an intimate way the results practice can have; my mental health has improved immeasurably, my life in general has gotten better, and I feel much happier than I once was. More content. Even my financial well-being has been uplifted (not that it really matters much to me, but it is preferred compared to not.) I feel closer and more present in my children's lives, and my wife and I are closer than we've ever been. It was fear of loss -- aversion, if you will -- and desire which nearly drove me from them. I nearly threw away the greatest gifts given to me, and it was because my desire outweighed my reason.

>Are you a stoic?
If you really pressed me, I might say that I'm merely practicing (perhaps poorly, even). And I would probably leave it at that

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>>83095872
Indeed. We should take that to heart and avail ourselveves from even entertaining his game

Notice how Stoicism and Satanism have the same number of letters and both start with S'
Slithery snake filth

>>83096008
dude youre weird. can i say that. can i say i think you're weird

>>83096008
lol
I never noticed

I'm weird because I can count to 8?

no its the christianity-posting on 4chan of all places. it feels weird to me.

i mean have you ever looked at the other threads that arent this thread? the degeneracy is mind-boggling.

>>83096053
And where does it belong? The light is most needed in the darkness.

The message is true whether it's posted here or on a synagogue forum, but those in the dark won't see it there...

>>83096079
>I mean have you ever looked at the other threads that arent this thread? the degeneracy is mind-boggling.
Anon, even his own degeneracy may escape him. If he isn't larping, then he is obsessed sith and lusts after an anonymous poster he doesn't really know. These types of people don't have the self-awareness you are referencing

>>83096088
even considering the possibility of accepting christianity from inside this shithole makes me feel like im having some weird cognitive dissonance mindfuck moment

>>83096110
I know Turbie a lot >:(
I am not simply lusting and obsessed with her, I am going to get her and make her mine!!!

>>83096111
That feeling isn't a 'mindfuck' it's conviction of your sins. The Light exposes what the darkness hides.
Don't reject it; examine that feeling closely.

Even the most lost of us are called out of their sin. The first step is to realize there is a Light to follow. A voice crying out in the wilderness does not stop shouting while darkness remains.

>>83095795
>Evil is not a *power* of YHWH; it is rebellion against His Word.
Rebellion by whom? Created by whom? Instilled by whom with the power to rebel? In whose image was man created? If man has the ability to sin, and man was created in the image of God, was not the ability to sin within God the whole time?
The answer,
of course,

is yes.

>>83096157

have you ever read the book of job from the bible?
complete mindfuck.
thats how it feels.
like a thousand cockroaches from down syndrome cthulhu's child-raping transgender tentacles are trying to convince me life is sunshine and rainbows, while images of deviantart fart fetish and vore fetish art flashes inside my head in epileptic seizure-inducing fashion.

>>83096157
>I am not simply lusting and obsessed with her, I am going to get her and make her mine!!!
Yeah? Sure thing, bud

>>83096200
Whenever I see an abomination that is the most horrific thing I've ever seen I quickly hide it.

Yes I've read Job it is one of my favorite books, but what you're describing isn't found there, you're facing spiritual warfare. Job wasn't confused or in madness; he was being tested.

The enemy wants you disgusted, distracted, afraid to look to the Light.

I am not a Cthulhu child raping transgender cockroach, just a man.

>>83096299

isnt being tested and spiritual warfare kinda the same?

either way i kind of see a cognitive dissonance in the book of job.

if he didnt go mad well ill say he SHOULDVE had, logically.

which makes me think maybe he was already mad from the start.

>I am not a Cthulhu child raping transgender cockroach
But your beloved Troonbie is.

>>83096327
>isnt being tested and spiritual warfare kinda the same?
They are related, but not the same.
Spiritual Warfare is the battle between light and darkness affecting the soul.
Testing is a purposeful trial allowed by our Creator to examine his creation.
The nuance can be difficult to see.

As for Job "already being mad" He is presented in Job 1:1 "There was a man in the land of UZ, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared Elohim, and eschewed evil."

Right from the start he was righteous. Even towards the end of his trials when he questioned YHWH in suffering, he is rebuked by YHWH, and Job repents. The lesson is that faithfulness doesn't depend on comfort, logic, or our human understanding, but to rely on YHWH even when life seems insane.

>>83096383
It's not really nice though to test someone by torturing them for years

>>83096383
canonically he was literally demonically oppressed by the devil himself.

he may not have been possesed, but he was attacked by the forces of darkness.

so there WAS a spiritual "fight" going on.

Funny how Te claims God has no power for evil, but then explains how God tortured a man who was not only innocent, but a pinnacle of goodness. Then killed his family, burned his house down, his entire farm, all his animals, then on top of that had his remaining friends berate him and blame him for his own downfall. Even though he had done nothing wrong what so ever.

If that isn't evil incarnate,
I don't know what is.

>>83096400
That's understandable take from a Human perspective, but scripture shows his testing wasn't cruelty it was purposeful refinement and ultimately everything and more was restored.

"And YHWH turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: and YHWH gave Job twice as much as he had before."

Even during all those tribulations where Satan himself did all those horrible things, he still did not lose faith. His friends were judging Him, His family was dead, His health was diminished, yet still Job did not abandon faith. He remained steadfast toward YHWH.


>>83096434
>so there WAS a spiritual "fight" going on.
Right he was being attacked, and that was real spiritual warfare; satan was literally attacking him. At the same time Father allowed thse trails to happen.

The distinction is subtle. Warfare is the attack. Testing is the purpose and limits set by YHWH. "You are not allowed to kill my servant Job."
Both happened together which is why the story feels overwhelming.

>>83096477
>God tortured a man
Father God did not torture Job. You are confusing permission of trials, with YHWH doing evil. What Job survived was Satan's attacks under Father's limits, not Father's malice.

The Chaos came from rebellion and the adversary not from YHWH.

>>83096079
>i mean have you ever looked at the other threads that arent this thread? the degeneracy is mind-boggling.
Nothing is as degenerate as a voice porn artist.

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>>83096477
God in the old testament is basically a narcissist

>>83096492
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant he "tested" him in order to attempt to break his will to see if he would crack by killing his family, wife, kids, burning his house down, murdering his animals, destroying his land and his farm, turning his wife against him before she died, covering his body in sores, starving him and leaving him with nothing except tattered clothes and a body covered in wounds, then turned the remaining friends he had left against him and had them blame him for a wrongdoing against God that he never committed.

Right.
Not tortured, though.
Cause it was a test.

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>>83096514
that cat looks like a narcissist
>>83096492
can you stop using the name YHWH
1. it makes you look jewish
2. it makes it sound like youre using his name in vain
3. it reminds me of kanye west referring to jesus as "yeshua" because the name "jesus" represents the "fake whitewashed jesus"
4. do you really believe in god?
5. thoughts on "the sorrows of young werther"?

found lilack a bf >>83096573

>>83096613
>1. it makes you look jewish
Modern Judaism has an ineffable name doctrine where they use HaShem, which means "The Name" and won't say Yahweh.

2. The commandment to not use His name in Vain, literally means to not bring His name to nothing.
Which I am not doing and actually would be doing if I erased his name and said "God" or "Lord" or "the Name" instead.

3.I prefer Yahshua, because it has the name of Yah in it which the prophets said it would, in Hebrew it means Salvation. Which He is.

4. Yes I truly believe in the Creator of all things. Halleluyah for His gift of life.

5. Never read this one, looking at the synopsis someone should have told Goethe that men and women cannot be friends.

https://youtu.be/fSDos_rHD8M?si=Xofx8OX6OUxRq3WZ

>>83096704
hebrew kinda pmo's

do you know about the werther copy cat suicides

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>>83096613
>that cat looks like a narcissist
Aren't all cats probably?

How about this anime girl? What are you getting here, Anon?

>>83096771
scary butt molester energy

Did you know that you could just cough cough and everything would just cough. But then you know,
it wouldn't just be cough... cough.

Do you have the *cough*...?

if god existed, i wouldnt be sexually aroused by insects

>>83096788
>scary butt molester energy
Yeah, I think that's hot too . . .

Maybe you are aroused by bugs because God maked you like that

Fedora Autist vs. Thumper... whoever wins, we lose.

I cannot believe anyone would be sexually aroused by a bug except for that one character in naruto

I'm aroused by Luv Bug.

Luv Bugs ain't real, they was made up by Big Bug (tm)

My blankey makes me a snug bug.

Not as snug as being blessed by the mystical, magical dust of a strange fluorescent flying creature.

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>>83085985
>Type
The quiz it says I'm "ENTJ-A".
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
Who cares.
>what smell goes with each type?
Who cares.
>do you brush your teeth enough?
Who cares.
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
Who cares.

>>83085985
>Type
INTJ
>do you believe your soulmate is out there for you
I have no idea, probably not
>what smell goes with each type?
ENTJ probably smells like a locker room
>do you brush your teeth enough?
Yes
>which type is most likely to get kidnapped searching for free candy
One of the I_F_ types

>>83097628
>I'm entj
Never met one irl what's your life like, like what are your like hobbies and goals and stuff?
>>83097658
>I'm intj
So like that's the opposite of above what's your life like? What are your hobbies and goals and so forth. I want to compare the two in the wild.

>>83097747
>what's your life like?
My social life is 100% dead and the only people I hang out with are my parents. I'm a homeowner though so that's something.
>What are your hobbies and goals and so forth
3D modeling, coding, etc under the delusion that I'll make a game one day. Other than that I listen to sadboi music and drive around at like 1AM

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>>83097747
I'll humor you.
>what's your life like
Look, I don't mean to brag, but I'm probably more successful then everyone here, because I'm willing to take on levels of risk and responsibilites most of you are unable/unwilling too. Why? Because I want my life to be interesting. Because I get deeply sad if I don't. My greatest fear is dying while I'm just getting started.
>what are your like hobbies
I read a lot. I'm always amazed how little people read. I also meditate. I loving being around groups of people who are mission orientated working on a similar goal together, but I HATE small talk and "shooting the shit"/"hanging out".

>>83097781
>>83098166
Thanks. So to compare _NTJ's. You guys seem similar insofar as as you both have single focus hobbies (3d models/coding/reading/meditating), both dream of long term goals, both have finances in order and both avoid informal social settings. BUT the difference seems to be in outlook:
Basically the INTJ seems more sad and self-depreciating and the ENTJ seems more happy and confident.

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>>83098271
We're not the fucking same asshole. Who are you again? Why the fuck do you care about randos online?

>>83098362
>>83098166
are you a girl ENTJ?

>>83098622
>are you a girl ENTJ?
I ran out of melascula pics I like. But to awnser; Yes.
So whos this Turbie you enjoy?

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>>83098706
She's my girlfriend and a thread reggie~ ^_^
She looks like this picture and is an INFJ-T
An Aquarius with a google panel, but she's so focused on work and winning in the world I wish she would focus more on me :C
She has quiet BPD so she's always feels it's her fault when things bad happen even though it's not.
She has the cutest aura and loves the world.
Turbie is private and doesn't like to share a lot of information cause there are so many creeps online.
She has a good relationship with her family.
Also she made the Turbie (species) which is a pink blob with a little smile and a face like ^w^
And she asks all the time "Did you take care of your turbie this summer" OwO
She uses a lot of faces in her messages, and I love her! :)))

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>>83098806
>She's my girlfriend and a thread reggie~ ^_^
Aww that's sweet.
>She looks like this picture and is an INFJ-T
I don't know what that is but I'll research mbti more.
>An Aquarius with a google panel, but she's so focused on work and winning in the world I wish she would focus more on me :C
I'm an Aquarius too, and I'm also focused on winning and all I do is work lol.
>She has quiet BPD so she's always feels it's her fault when things bad happen even though it's not. She has the cutest aura and loves the world.
Not to be upsetting, but is turbie a real person or a character you like? It's fine either way I'm not judging.
>Turbie is private and doesn't like to share a lot of information cause there are so many creeps online.
Smart
>She has a good relationship with her family. Also she made the Turbie (species) which is a pink blob with a little smile and a face like ^w^. And she asks all the time "Did you take care of your turbie this summer" OwO She uses a lot of faces in her messages, and I love her! :)))
I'm glad you get such joy from her. Sounds fun. But I gotta go to bed friend, you have good one.

>>83098898
Turbie is real
This is her last message >>83084566

>>83098898
>But I gotta go to bed friend, you have good one.
Sleep well, hope work goes well tomorrow for you

>>83098898
>Aww that's sweet.
>>83098362
>>83098166
I put all your messages into the uclassify and it did say also you're an ENTJ :O So you are probably one of them.

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>>83087495
The thing about your shit is that you do not care about the truth. That is the only reason why you can believe such mundane and stupid ideas to be actually the case instead of admitting that the things of God are beyond your comprehension, and what little understanding you have of it does not allow you to truly grasp it.
If you care at all then know this:
Evil in the biblical sense is not a substance but always a lack, a corruption. Evil can not create it can only bring down that which is already good.
This is why God did not create evil.
Evil exists where God is not.
ONLY God is good, therefore that which is not of God is by its separation from God corrupted and imperfect.
That imperfection gives rise to corruption.
And corruption is evil.
A created being falls away from God through separation.
The God of the Bible is not a chaotic God who does whatever he wants however he wants. But he is a God of order.
The very fact that he had to come down from heaven and die on the cross for sinners in order to save his elect from his own eternal wrath shows that Gods ways are much more subtle then: God just makes any contradiction true.
Thats nonsense.

Incidentally there is the ancient paradox:
Can God create a stone that he can not lift?
For the Christian God it is easy to answer:
God can not lie. Every word he speaks is a stone that he can never lift.
Ironically this analogy is even literally biblical:
Because Jesus is the word.
And about him it is said:
Whoever builds on this rock, will have their work in eternity; and whatever falls on this rock will be shattered and crushed.
Heaven and earth will pass but Gods words will never pass.

>>83087593
Just tagging you, too.
Many people are vessels of wrath that God prepared for damnation before the creation of the world. God lets them go their own way for his glory.

Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
Romans 9:18

>>83099064
This is just 'Platonism with Christian Characteristics'.
>God did not create evil.
John 1:3
>Many people are vessels of wrath that God prepared for damnation before the creation of the world.
>..and that's a good thing!
More consistent with your position would be that God's light can't reach certain places.

His soul is eternally damned.

>>83099555
>1. John 3
Why have you not thought about any of my words?
God created all things.
But Sin is not a thing but a lack.
I told you so already in my previous post but you care so little about the truth that I have to repeat it again just so you do not seem like what you say has even the slightest bit of merit:
God created ALL things.
Evil is a LACK.
If I create water, then I do not automatically create NOT water. NOT water ist not a thing but just nothing.

God created people as vessels of wrath for his own glory, because its the best possible thing that could have possibly happened.
He says so very clearly in his own word.
In the Bible there is only one time where there is a 3 fold hallelujah.
And that is when the LORD Judges and throws all Godless people and the Devil into HELL.
God created all things for its purpose: even the Godless man for the day of wrath.

And to your whole whining about how thatS BAD if God does those things this is what he says:

One of you will say to me: Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will? But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, Why did you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
Romans 9:19-21 NIV

>>83099632
>I told you so already in my previous post but you care so little about the truth
Please don't waste your time with this fool, Anon. He's a truth twister

as to me? i'm a nipple twister. 2000

>>83099047
Actually I got further into the story and now I hate it, this cuck shit must die >:(
Why can't people just get married and not cheat

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>>83099714
Nipple twisters might not go to capital H hell, but they will go to horny jail. And they will have a daily nipple twisting done on them by the bailiff so they can know how it feels to have their own crime done to them

>>83099817
I think it depends if you're twisting your spouse's nipples or just random nipples

>>83099817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqQULqGHR9s

>>83099632
>But Sin is not a thing but a lack.
Lack of God, not that Sin does not exist. How can there be things in the world that are lacking if God created all things?
>If I create water, then I do not automatically create NOT water. NOT water ist not a thing but just nothing.
Yes, you do, because now everything that is not water, is not water, where as before something could not be identified as not water, because there was no water for it to be not. If something exists, something else can be not-that. If something does not exist, something can not be not-that. Not-water in a world without water means not-nothing, if it means anything it all. You may wonder what can be not-water in a world of only water, and the answer is the creator of the water.
>God created all things for its purpose: even the Godless man for the day of wrath
You say God created Godless, lacking things.
>And to your whole whining about how thatS BAD if God does those things
You can't keep track of the anons you are replying to.
>Romans 9:19-21
So you hold the position that God is beyond good and evil? I tend to agree with that. That's rather different than saying he didn't create what men call evil.

>>83099860
>How can there be things in the world that are lacking if God created all things
He already explained it, retard. The absence of a thing isn't a thing itself, it's absence. Read the water analogy again. Really sit on it for a bit. Let it simmer.

>>83099860
God is good.
But men often call that which is good evil and evil good.

God did not create that which IS evil.
Your paragraph about creation is just semantics, you are stretching the definition of creation to say that by creating water you also create not water because now there is a difference between water and non water.
However that is not how God sees it and therefore it is ontologically wrong.
God created water.
The fact that where water isnt the water isnt does not mean that God made it so.
He merely refrained from making it not so.
Actually with water alone it could actually be that water existed before word created anything. Because in Genesis 1 it says that in the beginning there was already water. And the spirit of God was above the waters before God spoke
>let there be light

Ultimately you are forcing your own views of how something logically should be on God. But if you look closely the biblical story is actually much more nuanced.

Ultimately God is perfectly good.
But before the creation of the world God already knew that men would fall into sin and Christ would have to die on the cross for sinners so that all who believed in him would have eternal life.
God is sovereign in his plan and he created the world despite all of the issues and all of the suffering that would arise.
Could God have created a world where the fall never happened?
No. The reason is that by creating something that is seperate from God it automatically is prone to corruption and will fall.
This is what happened with the Devil.
He existed already before the creation of the world and was already fallen back then.

And without Christ the world could not even be created because if he wasnt going to die for sinners then God would destroy the world completely in Genesis 6, and then it would have been not good to create it.
But he didnt.
Grace is what gives Glory to Christ because it is bought with his blood.
And all the world exists for Christ and to glorify him.

But semantics and word games are all they have!

"I am God! I am nothing, I'm play, I am freedom, I am life. I am the boundary, I am the peak." Alexander Scriabin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7nLBJh7I4A

"When Scriabin played excerpts of this sonata for friends, he would stare off in the distance away from the piano, as if watching effluvium rise from the floor and walls around him, he seemed frightened.

It is one of a few pieces Scriabin never played in public, because he felt it was "nightmarish, murky, unclean and mischievous". He often started shuddering after playing a few measures for other people."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_WS3kxN-Q

last one is unrelated i juist happened to like it :3

>man who claims deity afraid of a piano
lmao just lmao

>>83100096
kinda frankenstein vibes, i just realised
"do u think god stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he's created?"
too bad creation is an illusion because everything just always existed within infinity.
"but thats not possible!"
in infinity all is possible
kinda like... the monkey typewriter theorem.
in eternity, at some point, the monkeys will type out shakespeare
or maybe not.

>infinity
lmao just lmao

>>83100139
the bible mentions infinity-adjacent things all the time. eternity. the "bottomless abyss". these are the first that came to mind but im sure theres more

>>83100133
>too bad creation is an illusion because everything just always existed within infinity.
If creation is an illusion then you yourself are an illusion and thus your statement has no substance and is self-defeating :C

Creation is not an illusion it is a testimony of His power.
The everything is infinite, theory is just a philosophical math theory, not true facts. It's just what some nerd thinks

>>83099936
Evil is not absent from the world. The thing that is lacking in these things is God. These things exist in the world without God, yet are said to be from him as with all things that exist. Resolve the contradiction.
>The absence of a thing isn't a thing itself
Yes, it is. It has an effect, it can be named and defined, it exists in the world.
>>83099958
>that is not how God sees it
Then he abandons some of his creations, thus creating evil, or else how he sees it is not how it is, meaning he is not all powerful.
>best possible
Means that there are things that it is impossible for God to do, so he is not almighty/omnipotent, just as strong as one can be. That begs the question, "what determines what God can and can't do?", as well as, "From whence cometh the waters?".

>>83100256
im saying anything is possible under an infinite amount of time or an infinite stretch

kinda like the infinite monkey typewriter theorem or the library of babel, but its not just limited to variations of different combinations of letters, but variations on the very foundations of what constitutes as "reality"

the bible constantly references immortality, eternity, the bottomless

that means infinity must exist

if infinity exists, then anything is possible

if anything is possible, then both everything being real and nothing being real is true

>>83100263
>Evil is not absent from the world
That isn't what he said.

Good as defined by Scripture is obeying Torah, the laws of God.

Evil as defined by Scripture is disobeying Torah, Rebellion against God's law.

This is what anon means by, Evil is an absence because it is a negative trait not something that has substance, but something that has lack

>>83100297
You're confusing potential infinity with actual infinity.
The monkey theorem doesn't describe something that exists it's a thought experiment describing limitless potential.

Infinity isn't a thing that actually exists, it is a concept. The Bible's use of eternity or "Bottomless" doesn't mean infinite regression, it describes a timeless realm of the Eternal One, not a boundless chaos where all contradictions are true.

"Somewhere in the infinity of space thermodynamics don't exist anymore we just have to find it!" That is the absurdity of your stance.

If "everything" and "Nothing" can both be true, then there is no truth. Your argument erases reason and leads us to vain dreaming of monkeys. Not enlightenment; but chaos.

The bible begins with "In the beginning Elohim created Heavens and the Earth." There was a beginning of this reality and that refutes infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xY9fnqrRwA

>>83100343
Mark 9:23 "All things are possible for one who believes."

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>>83100263
>Evil is not absent from the world.
Evil is the absence of Good, of God. There is absence of Good, absence of God in the world. This absence we know and call Evil. But it is not a thing itself, but the lack of a thing. It's pretty simple.

>The thing that is lacking in these things is God.
Yes!

>yet are said to be from him as with all things that exist
No. Evil is not from him. It is the absence of him.

>Resolve the contradiction
There is no contradiction. You're shifting things around and creating the contradiction yourself from your poor understanding.

>it can be named and defined, it exists in the world.
Just because it can be named and defined does not mean it's a tangible thing that exists. This is where you have erred. Haven't you ever heard of zero? Zero "exists", yes, as a concept, and idea representing the absence of quantity. It is not a quantity itself. It is nothing. But it is still useful to define this nothing. Because the absence of quantity can be observed and has effects on everything. Zero is crucial in our mathematical operations. Similarly, Evil is a concept representing the absence of Good, the absence of God. This absence can be observed and has an effect on things. It is crucial in our moral and ethical operations. But that does not make it a thing. And certainly not a thing of God, or by God.

Once you grasp that Evil is not a thing but rather a lack of good, a lack of God, then the "contradictions" vanish because they were never contradictions to begin with. They only appeared so, superficially

>>83100432
>No. Evil is not from him.

Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I the LORD do all these things"

>>83100394
Mark 9 here is about a man foaming at the mouth with an unclean spirit which is driven out, and that line 23 is specifically Christ questioning the Father of the man about faith, with the final line being this can only be solved through prayer.

Faith doesn't turn nonsense into truth, you cannot will into existence a room somewhere with infinite monkeys typing shakespeare. We are to Trust in Yah's order, His power, the purpose He gave for us.


>>83100460
Careful reading Isaiah used "ra" for evil meaning calamity, disaster, adversity, or misfortune not moral wickedness.
God creates judgement, trials, and consequences; not rebellion to his word.

You are now twisting scripture to try and score a win
Good luck with that

>>83100506

>Faith doesn't turn nonsense into truth, you cannot will into existence a room somewhere with infinite monkeys typing shakespeare.

You are absolutely wrong. Jesus said his followers would be able to do miracles far greater than anything he did. And Jesus did THE IMPOSSIBLE. Do you know what the implications are?

>>83100460
lmao I don't care about scripture. Quote scripture to the literalists. They might have something to say there. But to me, the bible is the work of man. These are man's contradictions. Not God's. I won't fault man too much in their failings, though. They were trying their best to capture God's message and provide it to others. It is a very noble thing, but we are not without our faults.

>>83100517
Question, do you actually believe in the Word of God or are you using scripture to try and bludgeon us to death?

>>83100525
Scripture is not the works of man.
These are not contradictions they are misunderstandings from someone without faith and who wants to sow strife.

To claim the Prophets, the Law, and the Testimony of the Apostles is the work of men is to deny the Holy Spirit.
2 Peter 1:21 "For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."

To treat it as human is to be blind to His light. The fault is not in the Word, but in the heart of those who reject it. Faith begins with humble submission, not selective adoration.

>>83100263
>God is not allpowerful
Yes. In the sense that it is often use God is absolutely NOT all powerful.
God can not lie.
God can not sin.
There are things that God can not do.
The biggest limiter to the possibility of creation is gods perfection and holiness.
God is so holly that nothing evil can stand before him. So he MUST avenge all injustice.
And God is perfect, therefore doing anything suboptimal is impossible for him.
In essence neither man nor God has free will in the way it is commonly used to mean that one can commit arbitrary actions without cause.

You have many ideas about God that you use to debunk the God they apply to existing. And rightfully so - because such a God most definetly does not exist. However the Christian God bears little resemblance to the image of your minds creation.
You should read the Bible maybe then you may see the truth.
I used to be stuck in the same kinds of thoughts that you seem to be stuck in, that is until I went to church and read the Bible and it turned out that the things I had a problem with were mostly not the case in the first place, but merely boring inventions of man.
I am a reformed Baptist Calvinist. Obviously I can recommend you my own denomination, but if you really are interested in that kind of ontological discussion Calvinism is certainly the right Christian denomination for you

>>83100526
I only like Christianity when viewed from a mystical lens.

The mystics and tortured souls (like Job) are the ones i empathise with the most.

>>83100525
Fair, but what do you intend to achieve? Do you reallly think you are going to change anyone's mind about anything?

>>83100575
Well, books on Calvinism?

>>83099064
>Evil in the biblical sense is not a substance but always a lack, a corruption.
Where did the corruption come from, if not from the all powerful God which created EVERYTHING?
>This is why God did not create evil.
God created man.
God created man in his own image.
Man is lacking.
Man is therefore capable of evil.
God created a man which is lacking and capable of evil.
God is lacking, and capable of evil.
Because, man is made in his image.
God is lacking, therefore not all powerful.
God is capable of evil, therefore not purely good.

Alternatively, which is the actual truth:
God is all powerful.
God is all good.
God is all evil.
God is everything, good and bad.
There is no devil, there is no hell.
There is no sin.
Sin is merely a creation of man to enslave other men.
>he had to come down from heaven and die on the cross for sinners
He died for sinners, yet sinner still die for their own sins. Not only do they die for their own sins still, they can still go to hell.
What exactly was accomplished by this death? Now people can be forgiven? What about all the people before Jesus' deaths? They all sinned, they weren't eligible for forgiveness and went straight to hell?
Why does an all powerful God need to send himself down in human form in order to die just to have the ability to forgive people? God is all knowing, he didn't learn anything from that.

>>83100601
Thus showing your focus is on emotion and imagination not obedience, you view scripture as a Drama not as a Truth.

Empathizing with mystics or Job is not the same as Following God. Job's story is about faithfulness through trial not romanticizing suffering.

Scripture calls for obedience, repentance, and Trust in our Creator, not using the Word as a backdrop for personal fantasy, selective sympathy, or as a way to convict other people. You know who uses scripture in that manner within the Bible? The devil.

>>83100565
>Scripture is not the works of man.
Last I checked it wasn't "The Bible, by God". It was written by men and according to their interpretation.

>someone without faith and who wants to sow strife.
oh, please . . .

>To treat it as human is to be blind to His light.
I disagree. To treat it as anything but human is not humble submission; rather, it is the lack of being humble because you are assuming man has in him an ability to fully comprehend God. That, to me, is absolutely laughable. To see the bible as the work of man is not to be blind to his light. You can still parse the good from it even if you see it for the flawed work of man that it is. Enough of God still comes through. And you can still live a virtuous life in accordance with God. How about exercising some nuance?

>>83100575
>God is absolutely NOT all powerful.
So.. God is lacking power?
Isn't lack where sin comes from?
If God is not all powerful, then God is capable of sin.

>>83100633
>your focus is on emotion and imagination not obedience

ok and?

this feels to me like a non-argument, or like you're not trying to make any point at all.

Ultimately you must all define Good and Evil properly, don't rely on other man's definition, but truly come to know what is Good and what is Evil.

>>83100299
Here I defined it as sculpture does.
Likely many of you don't define it and just believe to know what it is as a subjective feeling inside yourself in which case the Eritreans and Afganis raping German Girls is Morally Good because they think it is and morality is subjective right?

Or maybe your government decides what Good and Evil is in which case the same scenario is good since they don't go to prison or get light sentences right?


>>83100647
>Last I checked it wasn't "The Bible, by God". It was written by men and according to their interpretation.
Last I checked the Bible isn't a book, it is a collection of books.
Again 2 Peter 1:21 "Men spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."

The Prophets, psalmists, and apostles didn't claim personal authority; they constantly said "Thus says YHWH."

To call Scripture human and then "parse the good" sets man's judgement (Your own) above God's Word. This is satanism's Do what you will. It's no humility, it's pride.

You can have issues with certain translations, you can see discrepancies here and there. I don't like how the Name YHWH has been removed from all the books so that modern people only know Him as "God" but that is not to say the Word itself is wrong or corrupt.

>>83100672
Your imagination and Emotion don't matter when it comes to reality. You are just a satan puppet in that state.

Hence why I said you use scripture the same way Satan does. To judge, condemn, and bring people to disbelief.

Hence "You are sowing strife"

>Using your imagination and your emotion,
>The gifts that God endowed you from his own self
>Actually makes you a puppet of Satan
Lmao. This shit so so made up.

>>83100613
The Institutes of the Christian religion by John Calvin.

>>83100667
Those are just word games and what you are saying is hollow. The ontological reality of this world is decided by God not by you. If you persist in that you can then tell all of that to God on the day of judgment. He will then just declare to you that you are in error and then you will be cast into hell.
And then there will be a threefold hallelujah in heaven over God ridding the world of you.
Or you could see the error of your ways and repent onto life.
Your choice.

And just to show you how stupid you are:
A lack of virtue is sin, not a lack of power.
You bore me with your vain deceit

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.
Colossians 2:8 NIV

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>>83100681
>Men spoke
Indeed. Men spoke. Look, I'm not saying they didn't receive God. Only that they could not capture the full essence of the message. Their spoken word was their best attempt at conveying it. They are still noble, and God is still good. But you honestly can't think the words in the bible are literally exactly as God said, can you? That's . . . wow. Very, very wow

>whines and pisses my pants
>spreads shit all over the wall
>murders my neighbors
>steals his camel
>Goes to hell
wtf god i was just using what you gave me

>>83100703
>Your imagination and Emotion don't matter when it comes to reality.

Why? Please explain. Wow you really are NOT an INFP, this i know for sure now!

>To judge, condemn, and bring people to disbelief.

Yep, i enjoy playing devil's advocate. So what? Does that make you sad? Gunna cry?

If you want to see real miracles, feats of impossibilities, drop the facade of a nerfed God who is incapable of anything.
God is capable of everything and anything. God is the creator of everything.

This false idol, nerfed god (lowercase), who is incapable of certain things, created by the scam churches to control their fellow men into following their scam religion to funnel power into their own pockets at your expense, does not give you any power.
It just robs you of your own power and endows upon you the sins of your forefathers. You inherit the world from God, you trade that inheritance to your fellow man in return, they give you eternal sin that you mean cleanse from yourself by giving them even more.

SCAM.
RELIGION.

>>83100718
>>83100734
Your reactions show that your hearts are hardened against reproof. When you proudly proclaim "I love playing the Devil's part" it is a confession of whose work you do.

2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of Elohim, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of the Messiah."

Jeremiah "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"

Imagination and emotion are tools, not our masters. Hence why I said they don't matter "when it comes to reality." You can't shoot fireballs with your Qi lmfao You're ruled by Pride.

>>83100755
Gnostic Luciferian inversion.
You have come down with middleschooler syndrome, you're too old to be a chunibyo

>>83100730
You are talking like the Serpent in the Garden. "God is good" meanwhile you deny His Word is pure and preserved. It's unbelief.

>>83100755
And how many miracles have you seen, heretic?

>>83100760
I would personally crucify you if i knew you in person, and i would spit on you, strip you naked and whip you. Its true. I think you deserve to go through what Job went through.

>Imagination and emotion are tools, not our masters.

This is literally what a PSYCHOPATH would say, do you realise that?

>>83100791
This is just straight gaslighting btw
>I would literally spit on you, crucify you, strip you naked and whip you
Meanwhile
>You're a psychopath for not allowing emotions to rule your life

>>83100760
>>83100768
Your heart is the only one whose heart has hardened. You've hardened it from the truth of the matter, you're being scammed by a religion created by man to shackle you to this world through inheriting their sins.
God is all powerful.
ALL.
POWERFUL.
God is an infinite well of power which anyone can tap into to bring into conscious creation anything imaginable.
>>83100786
Countless miracles, false idol worshiper.
Go dogmatically suck the dick of your slave master, slave. Maybe he'll endow upon you a smudge of cum to lap up and promise to forgive you of the sins you haven't yet committed if you just remain loyal to his orders, like a good slave you are.

>>83100773
lmao jesus christ
I am not denying his word. I am denying that his word *as spoken by man* is perfect. Do you understand the distinction? I mean, if you can't see man coming through in the bible with his own flaws, then that's honestly a you problem. But maybe you need to view things literally? And I guess that's fine; if it brings you closer and more in accordance with good, then it will have served its purpose.

>>83100822
I don't think you have any idea what Good is.
There is a living creator to all of this, and the Word of God will stand forever. Not a single Jot has been lost, All scripture is God-Breathed. The writers spoke what the Spirit gave the prophets were not putting down their private opinions. To treat Scripture as fallible human literature is to reject the Word of God. You are denying His Word, His Power, His Saints.

Humble submission to what God has spoken and passed down, is not literalism for its own sake; it's obedience and Love of Him. The First and greatest commandment.

The modern ideal of God is nothing more than the rotting corpse of a dead, false idol. An empty idol that has been hoisted up by Religious Structures to maintain their power and control over the collective will. When they control your will, they control your actions. And you willingly follow along like the good little cattle you are, straight into the slaughter house to be harvested for your God given power.

>>83100811
None, I see.
Know that the fate of all liars is in the lake of fire.

>>83100803
very shallow interpretation of what i wrote and what i meant, ngl

obviously, i dont mean it for real. or do i? do you think i mean it for real?

maybe. i mean. i think all children deserve that.

because i am a SINNER!!!! MWA HAH HAH HAH HAH

>You're a psychopath if emotions don't rule your life

i genuinely believe this btw

>>83100867
There is no lake of fire.
There is no eternal damnation.
God does not seek to punish you for what he created you to do.
It is merely man that wishes to instill you with the fear to keep you subservient like a good little slave.

>>83100861
>To treat Scripture as fallible human literature is to reject the Word of God
No, it's not a rejection. There's nuance. To treat the translations and interpretation of God *by man* as Perfect is the opposite of humility. How can you admit man is flawed and yet say their interpretation of the divine could be perfect? It's the perfect word why? Because man says so?

>>83100882
I do not fear because where there is love there is no more fear.
God died on the cross to save me.
So therefore I am free.
But you should fear hell, for you have no peace with God and his wrath is upon you. God is not mocked, your judgment awaits.

Hey, Turbie Enjoyer, riddle me this: Would God eat his own shit?

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>>83086167

Basic e*r*u (IcFcUu):


"This is the most primitive of the IRU patterns and an tends to be relatively rare. In general, the ir*u has made little adaptation or modification of his primitive tendencies; he is a non-involving schizoid person with limited emotional control and little awareness of any need to develop social-interpersonal competence. At best, he is a self-centered, highly autistic person who is individualistic and self-seeking; at worst, he is the classic childhood schizophrenic who never develops beyond his autistic personalized world."

Basically, this test just said I'm autistic.

How does God feel about people with down syndrome? Or the holocaust? Or cancer? Or hemorrhoids? Or child rape?

Guyz, what if God has Schizophrenia?

>>83100923
>If you don't love me I will beat the ever loving shit out of you for all eternity
>OKAY GOD I LOVE YOU I PROMSE I'M NOT SCARED PLEASE DONT BEAT ME PLEASE DON'T BEAT ME

>Your relationship with god (lowercase) in a nutshell

>>83100939
>Basically, this test just said I'm autistic.
At least you're rare! :)

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>>83099847
you wouldn't be wrong if you assumed that i would twist random people's nipples for no reason.

>>83100902
>their interpretation
You are confusing commentary to scripture
When you read the book and say "I think it means X" that is commentary, and it is fallible. When the scripture says "Love your Neighbor" that is infallible

>>83101005
Yeah that isn't behaviour that is acceptable

>>83100950
>Down syndrome
Blessed, retards are the happiest people they don't think so much.
>Holocaust
Judgement of Judas, God hates their offering.
>Cancer
Disease falls under consequence for being fallen, He will ultimately remove all suffering in our second life, and heal all diseases. Typically these are the results of bad diet.
>Hemorrhoids
Punishment for being gay.
>Child Rape
Hates rapists, the rapist will be damned. Even stealing a virgin through sly words is unacceptable, abstinence until marriage is appropriate.

>>83101053
GOD BLESS GOD!!!! GOD BLESS THE GOD GOD!!!!! BLESS!!!!!

>>83101021
>When the scripture says "Love your Neighbor" that is infallible
But why is it infallible? Help me to understand. Is it infallible because man said it was? Saying it is infallible because God said it was infallible is really only saying that is infallible because man said that God said it was infallible. That's still man, is it not? And maybe the word of God was indeed infallible but man in his fallibility left their influence on an imperfect interpretation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKeIdJfzpM4

i was christian until the doomer pill kicked in

>>83101145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy5-gr1H8ZI

>>83101110
The Word of God is infallible because it originates from the One who is perfect, all knowing, and unchanging. Scripture comes from the Holy Spirit, from He in Heaven.
God is the author not the human Scribe.

It's like if I use speech to text, and my phone transcribes what I say, I am still the Author.

>>83101001

I appreciate the kind words anon. I wish you a wonderful day/evening/night!

>>83097628

You're probably a 3w4 on enneagram?

>>83100633
You use scripture as a substitute for a functioning family. The same complex that has you as Turbie Enjoyer has you as a whatever this is.
>>83100672
You might appreciate this
https://archive.org/details/cgjunganswertojo0000unse/page/n5/mode/2up
Also, look up The Complete Mystical Works of Meister Eckhart. You might like Dostoevsky.
>>83100755
It's a good religion that's been and is being corrupted.

>>83101215
>You use scripture for your familial failings
>That same complex that has you as TE has you as a Has you as has.
yes! okay. Sure :o

>Here read this magick book about Kabbalistic demonic sacrifice
>The way is good, but it's been corrupt by the Devil
True!

>MBTI: The discussion of Christianity

Why do Christians hate books and love burning libraries?

https://youtu.be/7Sd3uW4HHo4?si=AV1kx8P4poMeX8sW

>>83101215
>It's a good religion that's been and is being corrupted.
It's a religion that doesn't even know the true teachings of its supposed savior (Jesus). Specifically about the dogmatic following of religious authorities who will rob the people of their own spiritual power as a means to gain institutional power over the land and its people.

Jesus' word was that of defiance of the Church, and now his word has been bastardized into the very thing he spoke out against. Much like many of his teachings.
To defy the word of the Church is to commit mortal sin, according to the Church. Jesus would have defied the Church on moral premise.
>>83101239
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self indulgence.

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>>83101215
i know meister eckhart becuz i watchd jacob"s ladder XD
i would have gone in-depth about the aspects of christianity i DO appreciate (the mystics) if mr turbie enjoyer didnt get offended by it

>>83101281
You act like I'm a catholic priest lmfao I am not religious, I don't believe in the Churches of men, I advocate for a personal relationship with the Word, who is Jesus Christ.

Woe to you who uses scripture as a bludgeon when you don't even accept it as Truth. That is a much more accurate depiction of a hypocrit.

>>83101293
I'm not offended by your abominable ways, it's your own soul in peril. You hate the Word of God and your heart is hardened against Truth

>>83101330
"Look down at me and you see a fool; look up at me and you see a god; look straight at me and you see yourself." - Charles Manson

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>>83101341
>Charles Manson

>>83101319
>I don't believe in the Churches of men,
Comical.

>>83101352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qxa91EwFco

I have always thought death grips is shit music

I always thought Turbie was a tranny.

>>83100965
God created me as a vessel of grace so there is no threat, there is only boundless grace and love.
But for the godless they are created as vessels of wrath and they are prepared for eternal damnation.
What you are describing is just stupid lmao