>>84629865
Why is she posting herself in publicly available porn videos? Is it "public" but behind a paywall, or is it TRULY public? Does she respond to the comments on those videos and try to get in contact with some of those men if they look, sound, or seem good enough?

Oh, to add to that...

Hypothetically speaking...
Would this girl, who's kept her hymen intact and never penetrated herself even with a dildo, and never let any of the thousands of men who have shown sexual interest have their way, even want just any given man? Or what would her requirements be? If she's left herself intact this long, it'd only make sense that her standards are so high that even thousands of men later she hasn't even found one to make moves towards.

Juuust hypothetically speaking.

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>>84629865
only if she lets me cut off her evil clit thats making her do this
this action would show me that shes truly ready to let go of her whore past and embrace her role as my gf

Yes, that would be superior to a woman with a previous sexual partner. Every softcore big boob model for instance. If they were virgins they would be a prize. It's not that other men have lusted for her. That's just a verification of her beauty

>>84629882
>Does she respond to the comments on those videos and try to get in contact with some of those men if they look, sound, or seem good enough?
i don't think a single woman has ever done this?

>>84629882
>>84629889
>>84629920
god NEVER change /r9k/

>>84629865
What, like she just did solo masturbation stuff? Sure, I don't care, just as long as no other man has touched her. I don't see the problem with watching, I mean shit, if she wanted to keep making videos I'd fuck her on camera, when you do that you're basically cucking anyone who faps to it.

>>84629882
she makes porn because she's poor, and the porn she makes is centered around her being a virgin, it'd hurt her career to have sex and rip her hymen so no, she doesn't talk to the men or fuck them. you can verify her virginity right there on the screen, once you two start dating, you'd fuck so she'd have to stop making porn

this is a hypothetical scenario so she doesn't have requirements, she's just magically interested in you

>>84629934
yep, solo masturbation stuff, no dildos, no nothin, just the knowledge that thousands of men have jacked off to her before

she might get off on the idea that she's "untouchable" who knows, it's a hypothetical scenario, you put whatever fantasy you want to it. somehow she's bent her rules and fallen for you specifically but she's hot enough to be jobless otherwise

Would depend if she hid identity or not, if she did then it would be fine, otherwise a little questionable but not an automatic no provided she had some other qualities I liked. That's honestly a pretty smart way to do content for a broke girl with no other talents.

>>84630033
Well that's fine, I don't care if someone's jacked off to her.

>>84630055
but touching her is the line you draw?

>>84629865
i would date a fembot as long as she had a large butt

>>84630057
NTA but yeah kind of.
Men will jack off to literally anything. Every girl in school was used for fap material by some guy. Even if no nudes were used, his imagination did wonders to her.

So using "oh no someone masturbated to her" is a weird thing to get hung up on.

>>84630071
>Every girl in school was used for fap material by some guy. Even if no nudes were used, his imagination did wonders to her.
hm. what did they tend to imagine without material?

>>84629865
also this begs another question:

same scenario so verifiable virgin, makes virgin fetish porn so she has to never use dildos since they'd ruin her hymen and it's important that she doesn't starve to death on the streets so she's been very careful to never have had sex before. she's a neet who never leaves the house. no clubbing, no risk of rapings either
>her porn is truly public, like on pornhub. she makes money through ad revenue. this means potentially millions of men have jacked off to her before
or
>she uses onlyfans, only a few people have jacked off to her before but that means they can dm her and she responds if it's anything over 10k sent to her

>>84630047
no, her face is just out there, her whole identity is known as a pornstar but otherwise she's your dream girl so insert whatever you want her to be like here

only things that have to stay is that before she met you, she made virgin porn on pornhub.
>she has no standards, she's in love with you specifically for the person you are
>she'll commit to you forever
>she loves you and is very supportive and is a genuinely cool person
>but her job previous to meeting you was a virgin pornstar and that comes with all the caveats

shit maybe she spoils you with the pornbux even

>>84630057
Correct. I don't mind looking. Touching is not ok.

>>84630090
The original hypothetical was at least somewhat reasonable but with all of that nonsense it's become so goofy that it's not even worth thinking about. Are you going to hypothetically get a genie to mind control her into the eternal loyalty and commitment? Too unrealistic for a hypothetical.

>>84630074
you and i damn well know people jack off to fully clothed women and you can just get ai to remove clothes these days anyways

besides arguing this is also like arguing that men don't get boners at the swimming pool when confronted with double d tits in their face clad in basically underwear

>>84630109
this faggot needed details

>>84629882

>>84630131
And you think that chud reply is some sort of gotcha mic drop? It's only outing that you have never touched a woman and are not a popular man. You haven't even experienced having interest in you by women that you wouldn't want to touch as you are not attractive enough. You weren't qualified to respond due to lacking experience, but I'm sure you'll keep flailing regardless to cope.

>>84630110
i was asking from the perspective of a former schoolgirl who can't imagine what it is men jack off to or why and is perplexed whenever they express sexual interest. i don't know what it is you're seeing when you look at people that is so fascinating, but then i find the idea of you masturbating to someone arousing when nothing else is. the more lovelorn you are the hotter it is.

>>84630095
Why? She isn't your property. She's her father's. He's her responsibility to protect.

>>84630163
>tripfag
>talking about people being qualified and coping

>>84630163
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/username/Softcap/page/18/
18 pages since april 6 huh

Sure but obviously we would have sex. If it's just about the money I could offer to buy her virginity instead.

>>84630198
>>84630194
>o-o-oh no I can't respond to anything he said in the slightest, quick, desperately try to look for anything else to change the subject!
>they lack the experience to realize that this outs them more than anything else
I know you didn't have much to work with either but it's genuinely pathetic that the best you two could do together was just point out that I post on the website and have a tripcode. Apply yourselves.

>>84630163
yeah hold on one sec

>>>/soc/35062079

>>84630226
i wasn't trying to argue with you. i haven't spoken to you in this thread before and otherwise don't care about whatever it is you are getting so overly emotional like a woman about. i'm making fun of you for being a tripfag currently suffering a narcissistic injury, which seems to be a common thread among your posts. all 18 pages of them from less than two months on /r9k/. what compels someone to make themselves a known entity in this place?

>>84630226
well you did also assume i was a man, but yes i am offputting, enough to be a basement dweller. i could just go get laid about it but it's my shit personality that holds me back in life yasee

>>84630194
actually its
>im popular and attractive
>i have touched a womans pussy before
>women love me
>bitches love me because im so hot and have so many friends
>my life completely rocks, idiots
>thats why im here early in the morning on a saturday insulting anons about having no bitches using a name and trip

>>84630241
Do you think I was talking about the OP instead of the reply post? This post >>84630163 is referencing >>84629882 which was linked by >>84630131

It doesn't even make sense that I would be replying to the OP with what I said, but the result was funny so I'll consider it a good mistake on your part.

>>84630260
both of his quoted posts were me and he thinks i'm two people and now you're interjecting with whatever this is. what a great thread. i knew you were a woman and op, or at least pretending to be a woman. you come off as one in your writing and hypothetical, which seems to either be describing you, someone you know, something you are considering, or otherwise a bored creative writing exercise.

>>84630270
Are you that faggot that is on anon in every single thread doing this "I deign to insult you and sometimes compliment you" act? God you're fucking annoying.

>>84630270
hell yeah well enjoy my pussy out for the whole world to see then

sorry about being such a silly little woman, head don't work so good you know how it is

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i guess, if youre kind normal and loyal otherwise and dont bitch at me a lot sure

>>84630275
>it's become so goofy that it's not even worth thinking about.
>Too unrealistic for a hypothetical.
>You haven't even experienced having interest in you by women that you wouldn't want to touch as you are not attractive enough.
>but I'm sure you'll keep flailing regardless to cope.
>but it's genuinely pathetic
>Apply yourselves.
>so I'll consider it a good mistake on your part.

probably
the underlying ego of this personality disorder seeps through every word even anon

>>84630270
Bad trolling attempt, even worse for a tripfaggot. -0.24/10

>>84630255
>I wasn't trying to argue with you sir please believe me
>clearly tried to argue, now claiming otherwise
>emotionally upset, tries to project it onto me
>ego bruised, tries to project the narcissism onto me
>desperately going through my post history trying to find anything to whine about but this was the best you could do

Sucks to suck.

>>84630270
to be fair though you did (you) me, forgive my puny little woman brain for thinking you might have meant me

>>84630275
unfortunately much of 4chan is that unoriginal and thinks smug = funny. it's the redditor resident facebookness coming out. they don't even use anime girls anymore.

>>84630294
>tripfag
>talking about people being qualified and coping
>https://desuarchive.org/_/search/username/Softcap/page/18/
>18 pages since april 6 huh
how's that arguing babe

>>84630271
i figure it's a little obvious but thanks for entertaining my bored creative writing exercise though, i've got nothing else to do

>>84630294
Why would anyone want to convince you of anything? Another case of unwarranted self importance. And every single reply only feeds into this delusion of grandeur. Sad! Well there's other tripfags

>>84630294
"tries"?

>>84630294
I don't think anyone has posted your post history? They just posted the link. What's in your post history?

>>84630315
>You just continue forward. I casually chose this name because for many concepts and pursuits I enjoy I am effectively softcapped and it has become extremely difficult to find anything good enough to experience real growth. I constantly devour information from various sources, I watch youtube videos or listen to things at 3-5x speed depending on clarity. It's almost a form of gluttony at this point.
this

>>84630294
why do you want your partner to have aphantasia?

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anyways do you guys wanna get back to the original dumbass discussion, other hypothetical scenarios are welcome too

this has become a hypothetical scenario thread now

here's another one.
>perfect girlfriend, whatever you want, the whole nine yards but she's a virgin forever. no sex whatsoever, she's pure. if you want kids, she immaculately conceives like the virgin mary, she's untouchable forever

>>84630281
>>84630297
Haha you're good, as I said before I do think your strategy is pretty good, your brain must not be that puny, there's a lot of failed people in this sector that think just shoving everything into themselves and fucking 50 dudes will get them rich. I think even publicly being together with a woman with that specific history is manageable, not the easiest from a social perspective but considerably easier than getting together with some whore that burns coal for chump change online, there's really no recovering from that. It may take a specific quality of person to be able to consider these things and come to terms with them though, I would watch out for someone that would initially agree due to just wanting to bang a hot woman that would then build resentment or something due to not properly considering the potential issues they would have down the line as a result, even if the issues aren't that big some people are weak to social pressure, especially from their family.


84630275
>>84630307
>>84630311
84630315
Mad?

>>84630321
>r9k isn't bad for advice (mostly because I'm here)
lol

>>84630343
nice bait attempt. i want you to swallow a shotgun but that's the default interaction for 4chan. i'm reading your posts now. if you were less needlessly arrogant you would be quite funny, though i disagree with your specific supplement stack recommendation. nad+ would have been fantastic for revving her metabolism, and liposomal apigenin and liposomal trans-resveratrol would have helped maximize absorption.

>>84630343
i was in mensa when i was 12 but left because the only thing we did there was write dumbass articles for their magazine

anyways thoughts on the virgin mary wife hypothetical situation?

>>84630335
>i have to tack on, you cannot cheat on her, if you cheat she leaves (reasonable gf rules still apply, the rest is fantasy fill in the blanks)

>>84630343
dude the boondocks is overrated as fuck

>>84630343
haha fuck this was actually good

>You grass-is-greener losers always think you would've had it made if you were a girl all while ignoring how few girls reach the peak level of fame. Men are obviously better and reach even higher peaks yet you still failed, women have an early game advantage but it becomes a much more potent negative as they get older.

>If you were a woman you would be ugly and fat anyway, you want to be not only a woman but also be born into a top 0.05% position plus be lucky enough to not just be trafficked plus be lucky enough to be smart enough to do anything with your looks? You're not even smart enough right now to succeed, why do you think you would be smart as a woman that has even less intelligence?

>You're a failure now, you would be a failure in any situation, you're just crying bitch tears and saying "why couldn't I just win the lottery!!! it's NOT FAIR!!!". You deserve your failure, you deserve to end your bloodline. If the only way you could succeed is by winning a lottery you are the exact person that should naturally fail.

>>84630369
i don't know what answer you're expecting other than 'based'

>>84630226
>kyle
hey what anime do you like faggot, i need recs

>>84630331
Oh damn that's a great question, it's because of my personal experience with having it and the benefits it gives. I honestly consider it almost a superpower, others have issues with letting things go or emotional damage from events, but I can easily move beyond anything and am just not very emotionally influenced negatively. I can't say this for sure, but I'm pretty sure if I would have been in a position to get PTSD or whatever I would have been immune to it. I hear people with more solid visualization also have issues with memories becoming inaccurate or misremembering situations, but I have none of that. And what do I lose? The ability to visualize and rotate a cow? Not a big deal. I can still visualize in 3D and imagine in general, but I don't see-see it, I just feel it, hard to explain.

This is a fairly rare trait though, so I wouldn't hard-require it in a partner, can hopefully pass it on to the kids anyway.

>>84630349
True and verified

>>84630370
Actually zero taste

>>84630377
Good taste

>>84630391
What genres do you like? I can also offer webnovel suggestions, I have read (at least up to release limit) about a thousand. Haven't watched anime in a while, I'm a bit softcapped on the concepts available.

>>84630377
i think it's rougher for men in the early game since they have to look around them and see all their female counterparts "succeeding" rather than looking towards the future and building for it

"success" is also a nebulous concept. is success fulfilment? is success happiness? is success what SOCIETY says is "success?" is it a good job, is it a hot wife, 5 kids?

some of those ideas seem happy and fulfilling, other aspects of it seem draining.

>having a wife and 5 kids must feel good
>but needing to do everything deemed by society as a necessary prerequisite to those things feels bad

depression makes it hard to look towards the future, men are depressed

>>84629865
thread makes me so upset as a virgin girl with an intact hymen because i realize it is the most important thing and it feels like my entire life will be over the moment i lose it it is so crucial that the man who takes it will be your husband otherwise men will view you as trash

>>84630410
That's true and it is pretty common for men to resent how easy a good looking woman has it, but they're also often not considering how many not-good looking women exist in the places you don't see that also wish they had it that easy. A good looking man honestly has it even easier to be totally fair, they don't even need to put up with needing to be impregnated by a man they find disgusting just for financial security, granted a man needs even more to hit that point compared to a woman but once they're at that stage it's obviously preferable to be the man.

Success is definitely a nebulous concept and there are a wide range of definitions with multiple being potentially correct based on who we're talking about as it's rather subjective, as long as the person themselves is happy it could be considered a personal success at least.

>>84630461
I don't think this is really the case, while I do prefer a woman to have low damage I also am not going to hold it against them for trying to find a partner. It's the quality of the interactions that matters here, not just if they had sex or not. People are going to have failed relationships while learning about themselves and the world, it's just what happens, people need to grow somehow. There are some mistakes that are too far of course and are more of an indicator of being unredeemable, no coal burners for example.

>>84630406
You've read a thousand webnovels? Hate to imagine how many manga you have.

>>84630461
eh i got gangraped at someone's order and then had some mostly sexless ldrs but it turns out sex and dating is boring. the rape was boring, the relationships were boring. none of this really means that much. you'll be fine, most men don't care.

>>84630406
i don't think that's how ptsd works. your somatic nervous system is where you end up expressing damage from trauma and that happens even if you are cognitively unaffected by it. you would probably still get ptsd, but you would likely be lucky enough not to have flashbacks or nightmares. it would still lock up your nervous system if you heard or saw a trigger though.

>>84630461
the world we live in is bleak yeah, that's why i'm so paranoid about losing my own virginity. but then you get into the "oh she's just a prude" sort of situation because men, as much as they deny it, do love whores

you try to date, he tries to fuck, you turn him down because you're afraid, they think you're "playing hard to get" and he tries to push. what option is there but to leave

sex is rougher on women anyways. childbirth scares me and the idea of being ruined into an unlovable husk is worse. it's lonely, but is it worth being in a potentially worse position?

i don't think women can be incels, but they can voluntarily give up trying to have sex. volcel is the only way to go, save your virginity honestly, adopt if you want a family

>>84630521
>they think you're "playing hard to get" and he tries to push.
they literally just rape you if you resist actually

>>84629865
You know what sure, yeah, as long as she doesnt cheat

>>84630521
i get that fully. as a virgin in your 20s, it gets bleak watching how much moids worship whores when you grew up thinking you would be rewarded for your chastity and this is the most important thing about you. you keep seeing moids mistreat good virginal women so they can chase whores they claim to hate so much. on one hand, you know you will not be like those promiscuous women they chase. i just don't have it in me. but i also know that my whole value will be ruined when a penis enters my vagina. this results in fearing sex altogether. there is no risk to not having sex besides being lonely. sex can ruin your life in all sorts of ways. i think society is giving me vaginismus

>>84630521
Normie women seem to hate this more than normie men do. Normie men might respect you for declining sex even if they don't understand it, but normie women treat you like a hunchback freak and try to get you to fuck as many men as possible. Some will attempt to fuck you themselves. They turn into typical rapist men like the normie men do when they think something is a challenge. It's best not to tell them, but they will then make your life hell at any gyno appointment by insisting on penetration and insisting that you are sexually active and just lying to them. This is their excuse for treating you terribly, just as a refusal of a pregnancy test and saying you're not sexually active is taken as you saying you're on drugs.

never ceases to amaze me men are assmad a woman might have had sex with a man once ten years ago. could never have sex again and they'll still scream she's a ruined whore giving it up to chad daily

>>84630484
looks fade one day, that's another thing

good looking people, men and women, have it easier, but for women that's only up to a certain point when their looks fade

if you're attractive as a woman but want to fall in love for love's sake it's hard. chad deludes you, he leads you on because you're novel, fresh meat. one day when those looks fade, you're dead to the world as a woman. no man wants a spinster hag for a wife.

the inevitable result is that most women just go fuck and live life on the carousel while they can, they try to find the best partner with the most they can squeeze out of, because they know this deep down inside. eventually, it ends for women. there is a lifespan there. why not live it up? morals are a cheap price in today's society

for men, they don't have this. instead i feel like all the shit life flings at them is condensed into their youth, when they're "still figuring it out"

the suicide rate for young men is higher than women because of this

>>84630536
>i think society is giving me vaginismus
lel i had that and it sucked
get off 4chan the men here are not a normal baseline. you may think that this is what every person out there actually believes because they can be honest here but it's not. they just like being edgy for fun and if you talk to them for five seconds in a way that reminds them of their humanity they drop the act.

>>84630503
Zero, I don't care for collection at all. No figures or anything, I also prefer digital format, I tend to convert webnovel series online into ebooks and then use text-to-speech to listen to them while doing other things or going to sleep. Also at very high speed, I speedmaxx all media consumption and progressively overload the rates, I am nearing the limit of theoretical english pronunciation clarity limitations. I do sometimes read text but only when I want to go even faster if it gets interesting, I prefer delegating this to my ears instead of my eyes as I can do other things with my eyes at the same time.

>>84630520
Yeah honestly not sure, haven't looked into ptsd+aphantasia interactions (or if that combo exists) but I at least don't get any forms of flashbacks about anything or any negative associated emotionally-rousing imagery even if intentionally thinking about something like that. I do still dream clearly and have had lucid dreams, I used to have vague nightmares when younger (basically about fear itself) but I eventually conquered that by understanding it and pretty much shed all irrational fear as a result. Unsure if related.

>>84630521
While part of that is understandable, the reaction is just wrong. You could be totally right about the men you've interacted with and they probably did want a pump & dump, but you also should consider that men have been scammed for a long period of time with women that want to save it until marriage just to end up with a dead bedroom and a split household/finances.

You aren't instantly worthless if you lose your virginity, it's the context around your relationships that matter. Still not the worst idea to save it a bit as a sort of freshness seal equivalent for a reasonably high quality find, but not until you expire.

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>>84630542
it's scientifically proven women cannot pair bond after virginity loss

stop trying to trick men you are still relationship material

>>84630543
>for men, they don't have this. instead i feel like all the shit life flings at them is condensed into their youth, when they're "still figuring it out"
i think this is just older men keeping them low on the totem pole. older women do the same to younger women. they know that the youth is what they desire and they hate any aspirations from someone who might supplant them. younger men are far more attractive than older ones, and looks fade rapidly for both. i'd even argue women age better because they bother to do maintenance for their looks, though their main handicap is attempting to look as the same type of youthful beauty they once had while men know to drop the twink act at a certain point if they wish to remain handsome. your appearance should change with you, and that changes your beauty.

>>84630532
so stay indoors, hide, get guns, protect yourself. do what you can. a man might be bigger and more physically capable but everyone dies to a bullet. if he brings a gun too, chances are he'll shoot you and you'll be dead before anything matters, so just get good at shooting so you can sleep at night, that's what i do

practice at a range, it's expensive to get into but for a woman it's so fucking important. no one will rape you at a shooting range, there's too many people present being paid to do their job but you can also do this in your backyard. hopefully you live in a concealed carry state, better if you're in a castle doctrine one

>>84630562
wow scientifically proven huh, i love your chart. heritage study?

>>84630536
people aren't a monolith, they're nuanced, there's plenty good ones out there, the issue is that the good ones are usually hurt the most

>>84630565
that's not how it works. they intentionally get you isolated and appear friendly to let your guard down, and when they have you cornered somewhere away from people and cameras they do it. often they'll get you in a car or otherwise avoid a crowd so when you resist they can simply hold you down and threaten you while doing what they want, and they make sure to do this when you're otherwise unarmed or unable to physically fend them off. they love doing it if you do kiss them or touch them in any way as they can say you bring out something primal in them and they can't control themselves, which is their justification for starting to grab you and bite you. however others will intentionally start doing things in public because they know if you make a scene everyone will side with them by claiming you are crazy or, even better, come up and actually help him while chiding you or even threatening arrest. many do this early on to establish that no one will help you even in a crowded public area. you can shoot them, yes, but you would need to be carrying and trigger ready at all times and, more importantly, you ARE going to be charged with murder. in these scenarios, your choices are
>be raped
>be raped and murdered
>not be raped but be convicted as a murderer

that's the calculation women make when they choose the path that involves neither dying nor a life imprisonment sentence and public vilification as a murderess of an innocent, non-rapist man.

>>84630562
i'd like to pair bond one day but i have no idea how pair bonding for men works. how do i determine whether or not a man is worth losing my virginity to?

to me it seems like pair bonding for men isn't all that beholden to having their own virginity, this is just a female issue

that means there's no quantifiable way to tell whether or not a man is worth risking my ability to fall in love for, i'm afraid to lose parts of my psyche i hold in such a high desire. i want to be loved so bad, i'm scared of being lied to

>>84630603
any man that will love you that deeply will also stalk and attempt to kill you. for most men love equals obsessive control and complete possession. that's why they want your virginity. they want to feel as if they have marked you permanently in a way that stains your soul no matter how it is they actually treat you. they wildly overestimate their impact on life. don't do it for them.

>>84630562
>>84630603
I think the majority of this has a good chance to be a result of being influenced by sunk cost fallacy, as you can tell by the thread women are paranoid about losing their virginity and being seen as whores as a result, so I could see this being heavily factored in to their unwillingness to go from a first to a second relationship even if the first one is bad. They're losing that first relationship boost. Maybe a hot take as a man, but I feel pairbonding is a bit overhyped as in it's not as big of an impact as they say and may even be considered as a type of social engineering that men employ to try to get women to stop being so promiscuous, like the type of social engineering how older women try to shame men into not wanting younger more beautiful women so the hags can have a shot.

>>84630543
The answer is because a carousel rider is living an empty life. The future for a woman that plays her cards right is not supposed to end up as a washed up cat lady, it's supposed to be a mother, then a grandmother with a family that cares about her in her old age. You aren't losing your youth by being a carousel streetwalker, you're losing your future. It wasn't always like this, this is a result of societal damage that you need to rise above or be consumed by.

>>84630614
I can't tell if you've read too many or not enough books, it's one or the other.

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>>84630601
i'm saying don't give them the opportunity to make you drop your guard at all.

if don't talk to people irl and just stay inside as best you can, your interactions with everyone lessens. just don't interact with anyone, women are also capable of being duplicitous bastards

also self defense isn't considered murder. if he breaks into your house, it's considered legally as self defense.

if you don't advertise yourself to the world and hide, no one will know you exist. no one will show up and break in

>"oh sorry for shooting him judge, he broke into my house with an intent to rape me!"

that's not murder, that's standing your ground. that's YOUR house that he broke into. in the eyes of the law he committed a worse crime

>>84630369
Oh I missed this one, I think I partially answered it across other posts but I think it sounds good if everything in those extremely specific hypotheticals was true, would give it a try personally. Leave details if you want.

>>84630362
Also missed this one, and it's true it was a low effort bait attempt (not that all people in that mass link deserved more), too many (You) in that time period to really spend time on them all. I would recommend NAD+ as well but even my short list of high priority ones is so high for people that don't supplement that I don't want to scare them off by writing them a novel, it's pretty overwhelming even by default I imagine. I've seen some pretty sus stuff about resveratrol though, I would not personally currently recommend that one but am open to changing my mind.

>>84630601
also chances are if you're going to a shooting range you brought a weapon and everyone knows that. who goes to a shooting range with no intent to go shooting?

everyone there will know you're armed. there's security cameras too, if someone makes an attempt to rape you in the parking lot, that's on cameras which will help your case in court

sexual assault is still considered assault legally. if someone assaults you and you shoot him, it's legally classified as self defense. security cameras will prove your testimony in court too, just don't lie about being raped and don't trust people when they try to lead you away.

you are your only guardian in this cruel fucking world i'm sorry

>>84630623
for women who want to really be safe, just adopt a kid, you can still have a fulfilling life and be a mother without a husband while also keeping your virginity

life without love is fine, there are other things in this world that make it worth living than love. in order to love someone, you need to trust them, in order to trust them, they have to not hurt you. that is next to impossible to find

>>84630623
that's fantastic babe, i have had to get four restraining orders and turn down six imprompto proposals thus far. it's a consistent problem. i want to stop having to be tested on the lethality index at hidden shelters by interventionists with police escorts. maybe when i'm post-wall.

>>84630725
That sounds like such a disordered life, there's going to be a bit of negatives in relationships but people that truly can't adapt at all are the issue here, not people as a whole or relationships in general. Finding the right person is obviously very difficult, but the payoff is high, that's why I am still trying despite it being overwhelmingly more difficult for me than average despite my high spread of above average to very above average traits due to me being so selective, however it's better to be selective and dodge bullets instead of finding out later when you've already wasted effort on them. I try to disqualify bad fits rapidly.

>>84630623
i don't want to accidentally pair bond with someone by having sex with him and then find out that he doesn't actually love me though. i worry that once that singular chance is gone, i'm going to live the rest of my life unable to love anyone

that concept scares me. losing the ability to fall in love again is horrifying, it's like a mind wipe to me conceptually. one second you feel so attached, and then what if it doesnt work out? nothing, for the rest of your life? forever?

>>84630667
you are wildly overestimating how the justice system actually interprets cases.
>if don't talk to people irl and just stay inside as best you can, your interactions with everyone lessens. just don't interact with anyone
>if you don't advertise yourself to the world and hide, no one will know you exist.
you don't actually understand what you're suggesting. i do this. do you know how this actually plays out? they treat you as an enigma and start openly surveilling you. they will come up to your face, complete strangers, to tell you they've been discussing you and watching your movements, monitoring how you appear and behave. it's surreal and deeply freaky, and i don't know if this is just some matrix fucking problem or what since no one seems to believe me when i say this until they're actually present for it. the less around you are, the more it is treated as an event when you are spotted and people then act as if this is some fun game. when you attempt to flee or demur, apparently their predator instinct kicks in to chase you. this is true of both men and women.
>>84630699
you are literally responding to scenarios i have never described. i've been to shooting ranges and am proficient with knives and guns. i disturb people when they see what my actual physical strength is, especially women. but i disturb them more if they see me in any sort of vulnerable emotion, because those women are clocking something that apparently is catnip to sadists and predators and immediately tell me what you are saying. i already don't go outside, i already know and practice self-defense, i already live somewhere where weapons are plentiful and security lax. this does not matter at all if someone locks onto you and decides that they will do whatever it is they want. the most terrifying moment of my life was the first time i couldn't push a man off of me. the second was when i saw the glee in his eyes as he realized it too.

>>84630770
i'm just afraid to risk anything. it feels like the pressure is worse for women when their virginity matters. sure, there's more options, but that means there's more to filter out. i've tried dating a lot, even the most pious and nice men eventually have sexual feelings for you. they might stifle those for a while, but there's always that fear of losing my ability to love hanging over my head like a guillotine

kind of weird to talk about this ngl, i keep all this shoved deep inside my head because i don't like talking about how much i fear this shit. sorry for my whiny woman yapping but these thoughts keep me up at night.

i want to fall in love, shit i want to eventually have sex. have a family, but with someone who i know loves me and won't hurt me, someone who won't take advantage of me. i know it exists, but how can i be sure? virginity matters too much to men for me to lose it. if i lose my virginity, i lose my ability to pair bond and love again. i hate myself for this

sorry

>>84630690
eh youve already responded to me 17 times itt so who cares

>>84630769
assuming you're >>84630543
but still not really seeing why any of that is stopping you from getting off the carousel, surely you know that the thing you're proposing (post-wall chad-chaser finally ready to settle down with someone she doesn't want and resent her whole life after getting off the carousel) is a meme for a reason? Get your black baby ready for the single mother tinder adverts I guess.

The only thing worse than wasting some of your time window is wasting all of it.

>>84630778
Honestly, as I said before in a different post I don't think the pairbonding is as big of a thing as is claimed, mostly sunk cost fallacy. There's plenty of relationships that work after the first one, and being totally honest here I think it's completely unreasonable for people to only be in one relationship forever for the sole reason that they're going to have to make a lot of mistakes that both parties will need to be able to handle on top of hidden variables that may lead to the relationship not working out.

It's nice if it can happen, but it feels like extreme luck. People need room to grow, never trying once because you're scared it won't work that one time is self-sabotage because honestly it probably won't work on your first try, almost nothing does. You don't lose the ability to fall in love again, that's honestly silly. If anything I cared more strongly about people in my later relationships than the first one (not as a rule but as coincidence and not linearly), my first was the one where I cared the least.

>>84630813
>assuming you're >>84630543
i wasn't.
>>84630601
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>>84630795
i mean yeah it's kind of horrifying but that's the only answer i have to keeping my virginity, i don't know what to do. the answer is not 'get raped' its live to the best of my ability or kill myself in defense of my soul because this is a cold dead loveless world

there are no winners with mortality, we live to die eventually and if my corpse gets raped i don't care because i won't have any sort of happy future to risk at that point

i can always just go shoot myself if i'm in any serious danger lolol

>>84630866
you would like maria goretti and hosokawa gracia

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>>84630809
I feel you, have had various versions of these worries over time. It sucks because even if you do your best you will still need to struggle a bit, but it's the only way to get there. I also want to share some love with someone and have a (big) family, will probably take a while but the only way forward is forward.

This has been a nice thread overall, favorite in a while. Feels like real people.

>>84630226
>>84630294
i still don't know where you hallucinated me arguing with you from. i was in this thread long before you and only replied to you at all in the manner typical of laughing at tripfags. even if i had been op, what the hell would i even be arguing with you about? your opinion on whether their absurd hypothetical was absurd or not? it is, that was clearly the point.

>>84630846
Oh.. well, I can't speak for everyone but that type of creature doesn't even sound like a sentient lifeform and is definitely a selection issue if chosen. I know it's hard to pick them so I'm not totally faulting you, but that's definitely not the type of person anyone should pick. Sounds like an unwashed migrant in the UK if anything, animals pretending to be human by walking upright. I believe in civilization, and those do not belong in it.

It's tough out there, but real people exist. Keep looking.

>>84630335
>other hypothetical scenarios are welcome too
would you love me if i was a worm uwu

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>>84630940
I didn't think you were the OP, I just rolled you in with the other guy that said something pretty similar that sounded mad. I was in a shit talking mood, if you were just casually chiming in then my bad, tough to pick out who's who sometimes.

>>84630943
unfortunately this was not a picking scenario. like the others, because this has happened multiple times, i mind my business, someone i only know vaguely from childhood (and almost always adversarially) latches onto me for whatever reason, every single person we know in common nags me relentlessly about just giving him a shot because he is annoying them by obsessing over it, he hunts me down in private and then just declares we are dating to everyone, this behavior continues escalating and any attempt to pull away is met with some sort of violent meltdown and even worse stalking, police have to get involved because he starts threatening another elliot rodger which makes said police back off and declare this my problem to deal with, etc. i've been told it's something about little mini tyrants and their narcissistic control groups which seems to match with the dynamic here as these nutjobs have bizarre amounts of control over people that all seem to be suffering from stockholm syndrome and react with bafflement when i keep saying we can just fucking leave, why are you entertaining this. they prefer to keep the group dynamic predictable by using you as a human shield to absorb his obsessive focus, good or bad. it must be some local pathology to be so consistent. these are all local american men and are all chan-types, not anything i would call a chad. chud maybe. the worst part is because your acquaintance runs so deep, they use every person you've known throughout your entire life to leak information to them about your whereabouts and try to browbeat you into seeing them, even in witness protection. very weird controlling women also attempt to do this but they're mostly older and deem themselves your substitute maternal figures. i consider this the real "incel" psychology as the root of it is insecurity and control, and slapping "involuntarily celibate" on it is a misnomer. plenty of incels are not like this, and plenty of chads are. incels get a bad rap.

>>84630953
would you love me if i was GROGNARK BIN ALAD THE BARBARIAN otherwise known as THROATPOON DESTROYER 3001 from THEODOSIA, the far off exotic land known for its PUSSYWILLOW MEADOWS and IRIDESCENT RAINDROPS

>>84630998
While I understand that it can be confusing to have it happen multiple times and being led to assume it must be the only thing that happens I assure you that it's not, and the scientific method of testing things exists for a reason. Maybe it's hard to call it picking in every instance but you need to shut down whatever strange people that you associate with when they move in and randomly declare that you're dating, that's obviously where it should have ended and even the friend groups involved were likely pretty shit, if they're pushing/advertising such garbage onto you then they're also at fault.

There are plenty of high quality men out there that want a family and aren't the asylum-escapees you're experienced with, if you just walk around and wait to get aggro from freaks then that's all you'll find, you have to put in at least a bit of effort to find something as much as it sucks, the overly-passive ones are the ones that attract that.

>>84630335
Ackshually the doctrine of immaculate conception is about mary's sinlessness from birth but on the question of the virgin birth thing then sure! First off can you wrap your head around raising a lichural divine child? It raises so many more questions that kind of renders the perpetual virginity thing of miniscule importance. Granted of course that I have concrete proof that the babby was not from another supernatural entity like a rapey gnome or a phantom tyrone (or even a regular tyrone).

>>84630335
This isn't exactly subtle. You can still pivot your content to something else, there's plenty of options that work, or extensions/twists on the original.

>>84629865
Depends how much she made off of the porn videos. If she did it for pennies I'd have less respect for her.

>>84631086
thank you tripfag but i have repeatedly said i do not go anywhere and in fact do not even date. these freaks hunted me down trying to leave college classes. this entire major first scenario took place on a college campus where security did nothing. that would be why i specifically mentioned eliott rodger. it was that fall when isla vista had happened in may, so instead of doing the reasonable thing and expelling the insane person who is threatening to shoot up the college campus if the girl he has known vaguely since first grade keeps running away from him whenever he chases her out of her calculus class, they decided it would make more sense to send her out of the classroom to calm him down when he started flipping tables out of jealousy - literally - because the professor answered her question with a smile. because he was smashing things outside.
>friend groups
he knew everyone i have known since elementary school, all through middle and high, and then these college groups. he also used my family and, as i said, professors. the campus police are saying to give him a chance. they didn't want to be in the suicide by cop mass shooter scenario he kept threatening, and one dead whore is easier to spin than twelve. because this then involved having to leave campus for, as i said, witness protection and restraining orders, and none of these people cut off any contact with him so instead the order effectively kept me inside for the duration instead as he would immediately go aggro should be cross paths - thus cutting off literally all contact with anyone especially since he then started pumping them for information about where they had last seen me walking and showing up at my car or inside of my dorm on my bed. this isolation then meant tracking became even more of a fun game and i had zero support network for when some insane fucktard did this again. can't even go to a waffle house without the staff trying the pressure shit because an employee has the hots.

>>84631266
Just talk to people online then? It's honestly unreasonably difficult to limit your potential relationships to those that happen to be around you at arm's reach. Plenty of online stuff works out and leads to real-world relationships, I know some friends that did that successfully. It may sound hard but real life stuff is sometimes even harder due to problems remaining dormant for so long since the physical interactions can carry the relationship that would have otherwise never worked long term.

Sucks that you're being harassed though, I just prefer to stay at home. People outside often disappoint me. If you want some help or advice feel free to reach out.

>>84630542
the "Rose from titanic" argument:
I believe its highly likely that on the deathbed, many people do truly see their "life flashing before their eyes", basically a "best-of" / compilation of the most important formative moments of your life that shaped you as a person.
I believe that -even if it wasn't really a great experience, as most 'first times' arent I've been told- loosing ones virginity is extremely likely to be such a formative life moment that has a high chance to appear in that 'end-of-life compilation'.
After all even if it was bad sex, can you show me a single sex-haver person (who wasn't black out drunk or drugged at the time) who doesn't remember their first time?
I think not.
Just the idea that the last moments of my hypothetical future wife's life are spend thinking about the random highschool chad she fucked 50 years ago rather than me, the husband she spend the last several decades and build a family with would literally kill me inside.
I simply couldn't do it.

>>84631292
>>84630511
bro where are we. i don't even want relationships. i have never wanted relationships. this was not always /relationship9k/. i had one person i wanted a relationship with and that was online and otherwise impossible in my youth and crashed terribly. call it long distance pairbonding with supreme autistic chad if you want. i just wanted to go to fucking class, and i would appreciate if any person online or off didn't sneer at me to go out and socialize more when any attempt to has only triggered this. i do stay at home. i am effectively a hikikomori. i can't go to fucking class, the grocery store, or for a quick meal at waffle house without this shit happening and i hate it. i want to go live innawoods as a legitimate hermit and never have any sort of stranger follow me around for fifteen minutes my being completely unaware only for them to come up and start touching me and then bitch me out for "ignoring" them when i jump. maybe i should just get really fat, fatness seems to ward people away. they were terrible doing this shit as a child, that thing with the pairbonded autist crashed so hard i retreated from the online world into the offline and immediately had that college shit happen, i retreated back to online and still somehow keep having this happen on rare trips outside and online versions where people hunt me for no apparent reason to scream about being ignored and how they're just concerned and then spiral out that way. i don't even have social media and never have in the true 4chan spirit. human homing beacon for crazies and only useful as a honey pot.

i didn't want advice anyway or to whine as i am now, i wanted to tell that agoraphobe what she was proposing was unrealistic with how the world actually works. for the record her idea of shooting a rapist is absurd, any prosecutor will say she had no idea she was going to be raped. not how predators work. she would have more luck with suicide, but her hymen is really not that important.

>>84631315
>Just the idea that the last moments of my hypothetical future wife's life are spend thinking about the random highschool chad she fucked 50 years ago rather than me, the husband she spend the last several decades and build a family with would literally kill me inside.
>I simply couldn't do it.
what a massive fucking self-report. incredible skill issue. you should genuinely kill yourself right now if you are this weak and foidbrained.

>>84631382
We're online speaking with text, it's not specifically for it but it's also not specifically against it. I didn't tell you to go out more, I would advise staying home.

I'm just telling you straight up, you are in no position to give advice as you have had some bad experiences and have let them warp your perception of reality into something it's not. Again, sorry it's hard for you but at the same time you're your own worst enemy right now. Your life sounds miserable by your own design, the world is not like how you fear, you just need to be in the correct places. Stop crippling yourself with your inner demons. Obviously if you go to a low class area with 60iq animals you will always experience this, but that does not mean the whole world is a ghetto in new york. (even if much of it is)

>>84629865
Nope
Rather a woman that's been with other men than that