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The Great Elon Musk - Edition
Prev >>16497134
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I can't wait to have a on topic thread
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fuck you
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Third for 2030s spingrav station
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>>16497711
how's that supposed to work? a spinning two-way tower?
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>>16497711
how do you dock to it while its spinning? it would have to kill its roation every time something triesto dock, which seems a bit impractical.
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>>16497714
With only looking at the pic, I guess it spins sideways like a fan, and the dock area is in the middle. Anything that wants to dock would have to match its spin before dcking, and there would only be two docking ports max.
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>>16497714
like on 2001
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brilliant pebbles
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>>16497717
I get that, but Starship can't do that. The docking port is nowhere near the center of mass.
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>>16497714
Pretty obvious that you dock in the center you can even see the port.
>>16497717
Why bother matching the spin when you can just have the port stay still and keep the rest of the station rotating? Maybe with a bearing or something idk. That way you can dock safely and no need to slow down station or match the spin.
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>>16497720
sucks to suck
nah, just have a docking adapter that spins.
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>>16497722
>>16497721
spinning docking adapter makes sense. Seems like a big challenge thought to engineer a spinning component which can
1. Stay spinning reliably (because there will be catastrophic consequences if it fails with a starship attached) and
2. maintain an airtight seal for a decade+.
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And if it spins like a fan, you would need ladders to get up and down, especially at the ends. There's a reason spingrav designs are usually either the whole station is a big wheel, or enclosed hamster wheels.
If you have to have a bearing (like with a hamster wheel), and it's not enclosed (like Discovery in 2001), that's a potential point of failure and atmosphere leakage. It's easy to seal a docking port when it's not moving, but it's hard to make a gasket that moves.
And you also need a spinning counterweight to keep torque from spinning the rest of the station too.
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>>16497722
Yes, anons overcomplicate shit for no reason. Why would you ever need to match a stations spin to dock if it was spinning? Thats just retarded and has too many ways for it to go wrong just have the station spin and the dock doesnt. Real life isnt Interstellar just like it isnt the reddit movie.
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>>16497724
>>16497725
This is an infinetly easier task to handle than always docking by matching rotation, especially with Starship since Dragon wont be in service then.
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>>16497726
>Just engineer a cosntantly rotating airtight seal which doesnt leak for years bro
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>>16497705
This is the second best OP I've seen in awhile
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>>16497730
Put the spinning adapter on starship, then it doesn't need to last for years.
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fucking idiot
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>>16497734
I don't get the reusable spinning seal meme
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>>16497734
Real and true, anon has no rebutal.
>non response drops as I post
Kek
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>>16497726
>just have the station spin and the dock doesnt
That doesn't work unless you have a counterweight spinning in the opposite direction. Basically a big-ass gyro just for the weight of the spinning part. Otherwise the spin will eventually transfer to the part that's supposed to be not spinning. It's basic fucking physics. Spinning a ship to dock on the hub lets you get away without having to spin a counterweight.
You could maybe only turn on the hub anti-rotation during docking, then spin it back to match the station, but if Starship is going to have a side port like Shittle did, being unbalanced could be really "fun".
If the station and hub are big enough, you could even make a cylindrical docking bay, then lightly thrust to park on the inside edge as a floor. That would let more than two ships dock, but it would have to be really big.
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>>16497740
by "really fun" do you mean rip the airlock off the station and kill everybody?
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>>16497741
Yeah.
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How do I draw rockets as cute girls?
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>>16497740
>>That doesn't work unless you have a counterweight spinning in the opposite direction. Basically a big-ass gyro just for the weight of the spinning part. Otherwise the spin will eventually transfer to the part that's supposed to be not spinning. It's basic fucking physics
Motorize the spinning dock adapter. It's basic fucking engineering.
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Liquid-fuelled long march rockets in service.
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>>16497746
You still need an airtight seal where the two parts meet, while continuously moving against each other, with air on one side and vacuum on the other. Do please show examples where that has been done.
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>>16497743
well, first you have to learn to draw cute girls. That shouldn't take all too long if you're dedicated. Maybe a month or two. Afterwards you just draw cute girls but with elements from the rockets as clothing, hairstyles and accessories. Simple!
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>>16497748
Again, put the adaptor on the starship and suddenly it doesn't need to be continuous duty anymore. Airtight bearings are nothing special and one atmosphere of pressure differential is literally nothing.
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>you cant do X because it hasnt been done before
how many fucking times do we need to squash this argument in this industry
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>>16497753
it's been proven just as often as it has been disproven, you just remember the later cases because of selection bias.
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>>16497754
Non argument, as expected. Thanks for playing bud, reddit is more your speed though.
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>>16497755
>he doesn't know about Fifty Fiftyism
Leave. Now.
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https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/94rEEu4pO5FzWcwtsEsi_Q
If anyone's interested China Central Radio is proposing to rent a military GEO satellite's transponder (above east asia) for $1.6M a year.
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>>16497747
just like Chinese restaurants, the menu is massive but it's all the same shit
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>>16497758
You want 50/50 huh? Well how about this, theres a 50% chance Im right and a 50% chance youre wrong. It either happens or it doesnt. Now fuck off
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KcV1C1Ui5s

Total SpaceX Win
Total Falcon 9 Domination
Total SpaceX Space Supremacy
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FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
How do I stop getting notified every time they start shilling their Starship socks?? I've turned off notifications and its not working
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>>16497771
Unfollow them idiot
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>>16497771
delete your social media accounts
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>>16497763
>Now fuck off
I give a 50% chance of that happening
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>>16497771
Kill yourself
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>>16497761
you can pick between Blue flame with orange smoke and yellow flame with grey smoke!
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>>16497711
I have an interview with them next week.
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>>16497749
they should also learn how to draw rockets, and then cute rockets
this should take a bit longer than learning to draw cute girls, maybe three months
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>>16497768
so is he launching this on falcon?
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>>16497783
tell them that the Hilton will give them a billion dollars to build a Stanford Torus
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>>16497786
cute rocket? may I see one?
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Korean company Perigee Aerospace's launch platform has ran aground because of a storm and has been damaged, there was no casualties.
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>>16497789
Dynetics ALPACA
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damn what a nostalgia trip
I miss scrubby the launch whale lol
>>16497789
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here's some more classic content
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>>16497795
I forgot the cause of this one
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>>16497787
Yeah Transporter 12
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So when does New Glenn static fire?
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>>16497797
Transporter is such a cool name. It's the one name SpaceX came up with that isnt cringe.
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>>16497800
never ever
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I hope I can be an astronaut one day. I yearn to explore.
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>>16497796
It was my bad :(
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>>16497796
sneezing while taking a piss
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How the fuck is it ever going to be possible to colonize space?
>Initial investment into orbital infrastructure and permanent bases on the moon are extremely expensive and most likely wont make any money ever, rather serving purely as just the necessary first step
>Space colonies like O'Neill cylinders, even if you have the funding and infrastructure already in place to build them are too fragile for humans to live. They can be destroyed too easily unless you build fuckhuge continent sized colonies which definitely aren't economically feasible for a long long LONG time and you also have the realities of human affairs i.e. how can humans govern other humans in an environment that is completely controlled and can be fucked with? "Don't wanna pay taxes? Fine, no air for you."
>It wouldn't even be for a long time until Earthly governments can actually get a turn on investment from things like colonies and mining operations throughout the solar system, and by that time, said spaced based colonies and mining operations will probably have a lot of power of their own and will soon start asking questions like "why are we following orders from a guy hundreds of millions of miles away?"
>Planets seem to be the only places that are rugged enough for humans to properly live on, but trying to live on places like Mars can't work due to difference in gravity and terraforming most likely being a pure meme. In order for proper large scale human settlements to work, you have to have an Earth 2.0
>Powerful space based entities can horrifically threaten the Earth via redirecting asteroids towards it, even in the near future doing things like putting bases on the moon can be a huge threat to national security back here on Earth, so you run into the same problems things like the Orion drive have i.e. governments don't like the idea of a company having thousands of nukes in orbit with a "dude, trust me bro" safety guarantee

How are any of these problems going to be solved?
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>>16497768
Surprisingly good video from him, it's usually bad popsci
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>>16497811
Yeah best intro to cubesats basics I've seen
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>>16497810
Would it be possible to design suits that people can wear daily that can distribute weight accordingly across their body so that they can walk around as if they're experiencing 1g? Like if you're on the moon, and the moon has 1/6 of Earth gravity, could you make a suit with weights across the entire body that can add 5/6 per body part? Your inner organs will still be subjected to lower gravity but at least the rest of your body wouldn't be and you can walk around and function just like how you would on Earth? It could also double as personal radiation protection as well.
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>>16497810
stop asking questions chud
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>>16497810
>self finance (Elon is literally doing this right now with starship)
>lava tubes
>that's a feature not a problem
>humans are way more resilient than you give us credit for
>then finally we can get off our asses and built planetary defence
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Space Force question: Would it be feasible to turn an entire Marine Expeditionary Unit [MEU] into a modern day ODST force by sending them on a sub-orbital trajectory using Starships straight to a combat zone? I'm sure you can use decoy shit similar to ICBM's during the coast phase and during reentry you could have autonomous pods that can act as C-RAM to shoot down any incoming missiles trying to blow up the landing craft or whatever it is you're using to get the Marines to the ground. Whether that's via whole ass starships belly flopping to the LZ or by retrofitting them with drop pods.
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>>16497820
you can deploy marines to a FOB or a forward HQ, but not to a hot LZ
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>>16497820
that would be the most awkward drop imaginable, the only real use would be on Zones already under control of friendly forces, 50 to 100t of payload anywhere under an hour is one hell of an advantage, even then, I doubt they'd just leave a starship just laying around.
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>Falcon 9 is now sufficiently normal to be considered "generic clickbait rocket"
How far we've come
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>>16497810
>funding
Not a problem
>trying to live on places like Mars can't work due to difference in gravity
Neither confirmed nor a real problem
>Powerful space based entities can horrifically threaten the Earth
Literally the opposite of a problem
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>>16497828
I hate this fucking CG snap zoom camera effect so much
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>>16497830
blame BSG
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>>16497832
BSG?
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>>16497834
Battlestar Galatica my dear zoom zoom
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>>16497822
You could have pods that are C-RAM autocannons for close in defense while also having things like modified AIM-9's that can shoot down incoming missiles. Shit you could even have pods that are lasers that can also help shoot down missiles, drones and even artillery shells.

You could probably conduct combat drops with those things.
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>>16497834
nobody did that zoom in shit until the reboot dropped in the 00's. then it was everywhere.
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>>16497840
I applaud your imagination but a grain silo falling at terminal velocity is a pretty easy target to hit anon, are you perhaps thinking of that one pod drop scene from Genocidal Organ?
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https://x.com/NASA_Marshall/status/1861462541886537840
>this is how Europa Clipper deploys its magnetometer
KSP realism overhaul devs... TAKE NOTES!!
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>>16497847
this is fake, cgi/etc/AI
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>>16497847
mass c*cks spent 10 years and five trillion dollars designing this instead of simply building a bigger rogget.
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>>16497848
shut up bitch
https://x.com/NASAJPL/status/1662230960564502529
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>>16497820
BEHOLD
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>>16497847
why did this give me a boner
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>>16497851
as aways, it's way bigger than I expected
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>>16497847
Corkscrew benis? Evropa Clvpper is a duck?
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>>16497847
me when I see your mom
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>>16497847
Me when your mom calls me pathetic.
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>>16497820
only acceptable answer is to put mobile infantry into powerarmor, stuffing them into a reentryshell and shooting them from an orbiting mothership into the operation zone
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>>16497828
this is real footage wdym
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>>16497856
thats what she(he) said
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>>16497814
That would just be weighted exercise clothing, something you can buy at Walmart. A well fitting vest, some ankle & wrist weights, and maybe a weight hard hat to keep your neck muscles strong and you are good to go. Should help a lot at maintaining muscle mass in low gravity. I suppose you could also make some clothing with lead foil in it (similar to the apron they slap on you during a dental x-ray) and get some protection against x and gamma rays as well, not sure if it would be all that helpful though.
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>>16497814
A normal person would have the inertia of something that weighs 1000 pounds. No way.
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>>16497876
>running through moon base in my weight suit
>trip and fall (slowly)
>my clothes squeeze me out like toothpaste
>now doing a cosplay of marinara sauce
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>>16497850
It already launched on the biggest operational rocket, what more can you ask for?
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woosh
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>>16497788
Their plans are all self docking series of tin cans so far. We'd need construction variant Starships or a lot more orbital infrastructure to build a proper torus.
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>>16497907
again???????
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but he smokes pot...
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>>16497915
he can't keep getting away with it!!1!
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>>16497840
being able to deliver an abrams to the other side of the world is already amazing enough, anon, you don't need to drop it directly into a hot zone with its crew
send it to a supply depot instead
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>>16497726
>Thats just retarded and has too many ways for it to go wrong

Isn't matching spin trivial to do?
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It's just that fucking easy
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ULA has launched three times this year lel
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>>16497923
Just use a cargo plane?
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>>16497909
yeah, draw that shit up on a piece of paper and yoink Stanford's notes, figure out how many launches it takes and have an excel spreadsheet that does the math on how many man hours it would take to assemble with 100 ton starship launches
if you do enough homework I guarantee you that somebody's going to fucking bite on the orbital hotel and theme park
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>>16497928
an hour instead of a day can actually make a difference for counter-zigger ops
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>>16497873
>lead foil
nigga, just use lead as the actual weights themselves
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>>16497926
you need to fly each booster 1̶0̶ 100 times before it makes economic sense, muskrat
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I need some answers, i haven't seen anything space related in almost a year
1) dreamchaser status?
2) whats the 3 body problem /sfg/ consensus, and whats the Rocket that appears in the show? Atlas 5?
3) new Glenn launch date?
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>>16497935
>1) dreamchaser status?
fake, also gay
>2) whats the 3 body problem /sfg/ consensus, and whats the Rocket that appears in the show? Atlas 5?
quit watching goyslop television
>3) new Glenn launch date?
two weeks
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>>16497935
>1) dreamchaser status?
2 more years
>2) whats the 3 body problem /sfg/ consensus, and whats the Rocket that appears in the show?
haven't seen the show
>3) new Glenn launch date?
today >>16496392
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>>16497935
1. delayed again, increasingly likely to miss its window as anything more than an escape pod / CRV for LEO space stations or interplanetary nukeships
2. chinkslop is never acceptable
3. pad RUD
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>>16497935
Better than fuckin F.A.M lmao
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>>16497938
Dude we used to watch for all mankind in this general, 3 body problem has way less cringe shit and they use nuclear sail propulsion
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>>16497946
>we
go the fuck back to the /tv/ containment board with that garbage
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>>16497941
>>16497940
What the fuck, dreamchaser should be launch years ago and i can't believe new gleen is actually happening wtf
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>>16497942
Really hard to follows the show i remember the 2 season were acceptable i tried watching the third season and i just couldn't, the expanse is another one that fell off
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>>16497931
use a faster cargo plane
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>>16497952
a Starship launch is already cheaper than flying the current cargo planes all the way around the world, anon
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>>16497953
>>16497952
Skylon
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Skylon Musk
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>>16497962
fraud^2
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>>16497888
use 2 rockets and assemble in LEO
literally like legos
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>>16497810
Besides the name Theo Bouvier, you can easily tell how the creator is French because why would a european country have any kind of space capability even rivaling the US
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>>16497969
BNWO takeover of Europe being powered by Yakub.
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>>16497793
after watching flight 4 I put flaps on my car to make it stronger and no longer stop at red lights or stop signs
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>>16497804
now that's what I call clear and convincing evidence of life on Mars
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>>16497976
based, don't let urfers tell you what to do
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clear and convincing evidence of life on John Carmack's delicious blueberry muffin
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>>16497968
every burn other than launches/landing is like 0.001m/s
literal lego studs would hold two rockets together
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Will Starship work as Musk intends it to?
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>>16497981
of course
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>>16497981
no
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"The photos from NASA don't show rocks! They're muffins!"
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>>16497820
Why not turn starship into one big MIRV, how many nukes could you fit on one starship
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When will I be able to book a flight for a weekend stay on a luxury Stanford torus in L5 and have sex with a furry sex robot?
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>>16497924
yes, those guys are just being retarded about it
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>>16497976
Elon where the FUCK is the SpaceX roadster that I was promised???
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>>16497999
Concerning
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>>16497986
!
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>>16497814
you need to let go of your inclination to hang on to "1g" like you're hanging on your mother's apron, you will learn to feel just fine at .17g, you will learn to prefer .38g, and the most you will ever be given through "artificial" means on a station (and even this is a waste) will be a half g.
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>>16497931
calm down, zogboi
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Why does elon still retweet F9 launches? they must bore him to tears by now
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>>16498012
If I owned SpaceX I would be retweeting every time my hard work launched something in to space.
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someone suggest to elon to hold an esports competition in space
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>>16498016
That would be retarded. Just do it on urf. Unless youre referring to holding the server in which case, why
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good morning /sfg/
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>>16498004
Fucking peak gay coward efficiencyfag. We WILL build Stanford torus' that are big as fuck and aesthetic as fuck. We WILL build O'Neill cylinders large enough to be their own countries. And they all WILL have 1g gravity with serene landscapes and architectural k i n o instead of maximizing population.

Faggots like you are the same kind of people who also question why others climb mountains...Because it's there.
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>>16498020
GOOD MORNING SAAAR!
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>>16498020
Negroid yuroscum. Crawl back in your hole zigger
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>>16498026
>loses his shit and makes a cringy reply
oh, I see, I was talking to the autistic spazz, my mistake (and you got that jpg from me, geek)
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>>16498026
oh, and spazz, even a big torus like that won't spin up to 1g, nobody aboard, plant or animal, will want or need it
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I love chaotic /sfg/. Questions turn to debates turn to arguments turn to autism dumps turn to spergfests turn to chimpouts.
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I hate Earthers, that is all. Good night.
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>>16498016
he just needs to send one StarCraft player and a desk up in a dragon
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astonauts pee in their suit like literal babies. astronauts wear fucking diapers. you want to be one?
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We need to genetically engineer ourselves to grow and maintain healthy 1g bodies regardless of however long we spend in lower gravity. If we colonized everything down to 1cm/s of gravity we could have colonies everywhere.
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>>16498034
>y-you won't even want 1g anyways! *cries and shits himself*
Fucking Martian niggers I swear to God.
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https://youtu.be/IskUCoxucM4
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>>16498052
china is based
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i dont feel so good
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>>16498056
Alright, which species is the most /sfg/?
>Hearthians with their janky straight chemical "fuck it we'll do it live" ships
>Owlks who said fuck Urf and threw everything they had into travelling the stars
>Nomai who get super autistically obsessed with things
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>>16498056
lol dropped this when the spooky section came up
should finish it
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Looks like the intern in charge of streaming forgot to set up the F9 launch stream in advance again, and for a narrated customer launch too... was Kate just talking to no one for several minutes before the stream actually started?
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>>16498034
Not him but I don't see why.
Having 1g is precisely the point, at least for humans.
In a rotating sphere gravity would be lower from the equator and plants and animals can be postioned there, but humans (probably) really need to walk and exercise at 1g.
Sleeping quarters could be located in lower gravity.
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>>16498066
Ok? No one cares bro
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>>16497810
The human spirit is simply too based to die
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>>16498076
I care + gb2r
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>>16497979
>>16497946
clear?
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>>16498104
crystal
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>>16498096
https://youtu.be/zmBBSrxGfPQ?t=487
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>>16498111
Hawaiian monkey nigger detected
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Imagine if Voyager 1 had chosen to fly past Pluto instead of Titan, and New Horizons had never become a thing.
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>>16498116
On one hand, it'd be sad knowing we wouldn't get those spectacular photos returned by NH, but on the other hand, Tombaugh would've seen what his discovery looked like before his death.
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>>16497810
These are all questions that can't really be answered until we see how power generation, materials, engine, fuel, and rocket technologies advance over the next half century or so.
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>>16498116
Did camera/observation tech improve in the 50 years since? We would have had shittier pictures
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>>16498120
>>Did camera/observation tech improve in the 50 years since?
Optics didn't, sensors did.
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>>16498111
based
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>>16497711
>crew: 40
what do they do in there?
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>>16498127
Wacko schizoid.
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The stars belong to Britain.
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>>16498065
This dlc is one of the only times I've been legitimately got by a jump scare, fuck the owlelks.
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Britain belongs to USA
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>>16498061
>hearthians
embodiment of the Faustian spirit of mankind
>owlkeks
depiction of our future
>nomai
uhhh idk elon or something
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The b*rkun spambot is back. Looks like the bot owner upgraded him to chatgpt. You know the drill, automated spambot
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>>16498143
USA is the boxer child who came home to beat the shit out of his abusive dad after growing up.
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>>16498149
>mc gets turned into a fat pig as a gag
so tired of british humor
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>anons are genuinely replying to the bot
detect-a-newfag 101
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>>16498120
They're still pulling useful info off of glass plates made over a hundred years ago, optics are optics. Physics doesn't change.

There have been some improvements in lenses but the real gains have been in adaptive optics. Of course, like the man said, photoelectric sensors are really, really good now. Ironically all this stuff was invented to stare at the ground from space and not the other way around.
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>>16498154
you suck cock for a living
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>>16498160
I'm glad you agreed. Now back to trannycord with you
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CZ-12 3D model
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>>16498162
looks 2d to me
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>>16498135
just keep on seething m8
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>>16498168
stop bullying m8.
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Tell me more about Cobalt-60 betavoltaic paired with ion engine,...
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>>16498026
o'neill cylinders will happen
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>>16498026
>Because it's there.
That's the Huwhite Faustian spirit we need to conquer the stars.
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>>16498135
"The stars belong to Britain."
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>>16498135
Not even Britain belongs to Britain.
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>>16498026
>Because it's there
But it isn't there. Space is nothing. Space is the stuff in between the good stuff. Focusing on it is another symptom of NASA shitting itself in LEO for half a century. Companies are having trouble making a little module station make sense, and you want to build one the size of Rhode Island? We're going to spread across every planet and moon in the solar system before we make anything like that, and even then it'll only be as a ship for a centuries long journey to another star.
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>>16498045
Rotor cities.
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https://live.bilibili.com/3419899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxR2MdylpM

CZ-12 stream
there's actually some local event, looks like a concert
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>>16498191
fun
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>>16498191
>>16498194
>rocket veers off course from pad and hits the concert
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>>16498196
>the concert is right next to the launch pad and get obliterated by the rocket blast
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>>16498196
As intended, this is a feature.
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>>16498111
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>>16498111
basado
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>>16498218
Launch success
A "Satellite Internet Technology Demonstration Satellite" and a certain "Tech Demo Satellite 03"
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SpaceX HATES us now...
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>>16498135
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>>16498236
>employee of company makes mistake
time to cry and piss and shit your pants about it
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>>16498241
>mistake
Someone with a media degree is fucking up on purpose to own drumf.
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>>16498244
Someone with a media degree is incompetent.
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>>16498236
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1862776292418232738
>So with 2 successive launches from Vandenberg SLC-4E where the stream got delayed till after liftoff (this one at T+45 seconds), I have some (probably unverifiable) hypothesis:
>1. There’s something around SLC-4E right now that must not be filmed
>2. Something on board that would warrant not showing the initial parts of flight (through it would be hard to explain Starlink 9-13)
>3. A new SLDelta30 policy for certain (?) launches to be vague on launch times and showing pad

It's probably the first option.
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>>16498220
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>>16498250
Lucky for you, I found a pic.
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>>16498251
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>>16498253
Is that a camera artifact or does it really have those sharp standing waves?
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>>16497743
"so you're telling me there's a chance" on the skirt rim is very lewd
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>>16497747
and now you can add Long March 12, launched successfully just an hour ago
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>>16498262
Already added it, to the far right, next to SAST VTVL
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>>16498270
These people sound so gay when saying this type of shit that I almost want their fears to come true
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>>16498270
How is space exploration even comparable to that? It's something people will have a choice with, why would someone care if musk is supposedly burning his money on it?
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>>16498270
European opinion detected
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>>16498270
britbong detected
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>>16498270
energy is private and some trains are private, but they posted city run trains and government run healthcare. Are brits retarded? Is that why they can’t space?
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>>16498270
>Welcome to Mars!
Worth it all for this.
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>>16498270
>AYE AYE CAPTAIN
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>>16498279
>making consciousness multiplanetary
>lifespan of civilization
holy shit I'm getting tired of this drivel. Feels like I'm getting an ideology shoved down my throat. But I guess Elon just has to make the point that he's a savior of mankind or some shit to get the normies on his side.
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>>16498270
All of that shit he's complaining about has been done under my government's ownership.
Except for space, we spend a fucking pittance on it and that was after years of fighting for at least SOMETHING.
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>>16498283
If that’s why the guy who can get us to mars wants to get us to mars, I say we put up with it.
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>>16498270
Ummm i'm pretty sure Europe is literally utopia on Earth with free govt healthcare, amazing rail, and so on. Redditors told me this for years
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>>16498287
>add 10,000 pages of regulation called "deregulation"
>government still the majority controller/payer

ah those damn capitalists ruining my great country(that i hated for being white)
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>>16498287
>free
nothing is free
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>>16498278
government run healthcare that gives money to private healthcare to see patients.
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>>16497954
since when is Skylon capable of carrying and landing ~70t?
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>>16498293
Pretty sure it's free
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Recently saw some speculation that Jeff Bezos hand picked his streaming movie star to be sexiest man of the year, an actor most known for a role where he bullies an autistic man, specifically as anti Elon conditioning. Given how petty Bezos has otherwise been during the space "race" I believe it 100%
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She is back!
>DO NOT RE-UPLOAD OR USE MY ART. Casual supporter of anthropomorphized creations. She/Her, identifies as a lesbian, and has ASD.
Autism confirmed. Also stop posting her rocketgirls guys
>Due to various reasons, I’m randomly removing followers. Sorry if you suddenly get unfollowed .
>I’ll likely remove most locked accounts. Sorry about this.
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>>16498303
youre delusional
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>>16498310
It tracks logically
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>>16498308
>rainbow flag
>mental illness
unsurprising
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>>16498310
it's unlikely but not inpossible tbdesu
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>>16498308
What's the difference between identifying as a lesbian and being a lesbian
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>>16498322
Social points vs chomping gash
I know several of these ladies and they all married men
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>>16498308
god dammit and his art is so good too. What a shame.
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>>16498326
*her
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>>16498328
xir
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>>16498326
We have hand (and feet) pictures. It's a girl
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Sfg books?
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>>16498332
can i examine the feet to verify this claim?
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Where is she
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>>16498334
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>>16498326
*its
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>>16498261
yeah twitter is fairly horny as far as the typical response to sparky goes
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>>16498351
do not do this
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>>16498351
kinda crazy how ai slop hasnt improved in quality after all these years
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https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1862741431695384623
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>>16497705
It's all real
>>>/wsg/5732155
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>>16497714
You match the angle and velocity of the rotation. Then whatever you're looking at becomes straight, relative to you, and then you just pulse your way into contact and then secure hard dock. Tale as old as time.
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>>16497828
>everybody within half a kilometer of this has their brain liquefied from the sonic boom and sheer dBA of sound
>only in China
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>>16498380
the danger is hearing loss, actual body damage starts with lung damage iirc
short impulse noise can give you concussions but your lungs give out first under long durations
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>>16498380
sonic booms aren't any more dangerous than thunder.
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>>16498368
noone would do this thing if it wasn't for the legal system and juries given multi million dollar payouts
>your company is worth 10 billion !
>my client has head aches!
>thats worth at least 5 million!
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>>16498382
>breaks the sound barrier each time its propellers spin around
>gives everyone in the area concussions
>causes pilots to have seizures
Nothing personnel kiddo
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>>16498391
what's that near the back, emergency generator?
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>>16498390
Frivolous lawsuits usually get countersued so their bills are paid. There are exactly 0 people who have gotten damaged by Starship launches. They will earn nothing and more likely lose money for their efforts. Even if there were, it would have to be obvious shit like a piece of the ship dropping through your roof. Never happened, never will.
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Didn't some camerafag's SUV window get smashed by a fondag boulder back in IFT-1?
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>>16498368
Is anyone surprised?
Lawyers are scumbags
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>2023
>223 launch attempts
>211 successes
>2024
>231 launch attempts
>225 successes
>More than half of the launches are Falcon 9s
>There's still an entire month left in the year
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>>16498410
>f9 has 120 launches in a year
>only 38 were paid launches

Reuse simply makes no financial sense
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>>16498415
You say that, yet SpaceX's financiers paying for a fully reusable launch vehicle that stands to make every commercial launch vehicle obsolete — because Falcon 9 is too expensive and too slow.
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>>16498415
Starlink launches are paid by Starlink subscribers. They reached break-even this year.
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>>16498419
The internet is a fad, no financially viable use case has been found for it.
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>>16498430
Porn.
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>>16498438
Haram.
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>>16498410
Musk's success ratio would be even higher if he wasn't testing experimental designs on some of those launches.
>NASA 2024
>3 launch attempts
>2 failures
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>>16498441
Harems are for weirdos with bad taste.
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>>16498444
Yeah, the private sector is making NASA and old space look really bad. I mean, I see there is a niche for both because no private sector is going to care much about scientific exploration but clearly no public institution can have the resources needed to set the seeds for actual space proliferation.
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>>16498449
>but clearly no public institution
Their budget is still much bigger than spacex
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>>16498438
okay rabbi
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The take away from the success of SpaceX is not
>"muh private sector good"
it's that Elon Musk is a unique visionary and genius, the likes of which define epochs.
It's not muh private industry and muh free market which created anything SpaceX. It's Elon Reeve Musk.
Seeing some of you drop the ball so hard is crazy.
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>>16498461
Fuck off Muskrat
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>>16498461
Its interesting watching all the other "new space" companies flounder, fail, have no ambitions or plan towards actually launching a lot
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>>16498403
I suspect NSF will not sue SpaceX
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>>16498034
Every creature wants and needs it you moron
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>>16498462
You're angry because it's true, and that means Oldspace and NASA's failures are their own.
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>>16498461
A sober assessment is that there is no new space. There's just SpaceX.
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>>16498469
The rest of the industry needs to get on their level.
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>>16498451
Have in mind, NASA does a lot more than just put small sats on orbit and it has indeed advanced the scope of human knowledge for generations to come. NASA can be faulted for not achieving the space promise, but even so, the old explanations still stand, no one wants another Apollo program or at least, no one has been lobbying for one in decades, even when technology and industry lowered the barriers and made it even safer than in the 60s.

The reality is that no one really wants to put on the effort and sacrifices needed to have Moon colonies and L3 Bernal spheres.

It was never about money, it was about social will, which for a public program, is the most important thing.
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>>16498270
Leftists with no sense of wonder, no sense of adventure, no sense of exploration
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>>16498461
Kinda true. All the other competitors barely manage to get scraps because they cant deliver
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I will never be an astronaut.

I will never be rich enough to stay in a LEO hotel for two weeks.

I will never visit Mars.

I will never even touch a rocket in my life.

All I can do is cope and seethe by playing shitty space games and looking at pretty artwork and making fictional scenarios in my head.
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>>16498478
>All I can do is cope and seethe by playing shitty space games and looking at pretty artwork and making fictional scenarios in my head.
I sometimes wonder if all Musk did was identify an exploitable flaw in culture, in which 100 years of space nerdism with none to zero tangible results created enough frustration for people to work for peanuts and long hours for anyone that could bring any hope for the space dream to come true.

And he went and used them to make a giant telecomunications company.
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>>16498469
100% true.
>>16498463
>>16498477
Newspace only exists because of venture capitalists who have FOMO about not getting in on the ground floor with SpaceX and think they can replicate it, because they are retarded and don't understand what made it work.
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>>16498475
No matter how much social will, NASA isn't doing shit. The organization responsible for the moon landing does not exist anymore.
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>>16498481
This has crossed my mind. He specifically says he started Tesla after he discovered electric car fanatics.
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>>16498481
The timelines for this theory don't work. Elon strictly did the rocket thing for years and years before he decided he needed to make a telecommunications company.
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>>16498481
>Musk is just an idea guy
There are 8 billion idea guys on this planet. Ideaguys dont matter. What matters strictly is execution.
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https://youtu.be/B_Ncwr7l6wA
Interesting video
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>>16498491
"Musk is an idea guy" is the ultimate cope from people who refuse to acknowledge that Elon's actual skill is in project management.
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Reminder, SpaceX isnt doing anything ground breaking. NASA did this 40 years ago.
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>>16498497
>NASA did this 40 years ago.
Can I see it? Is this reusable rocket design sustaining a worldwide telecommunication constellation from NASA here with us?
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>>16498497
Yeah but Spacex is actually implementing technology and using it
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>>16498499
NASA sent people to the moon and plobes to every planet in the solar system, spaceX cant go beyond LEO, btw falcon exists because NASA paid for it
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>>16498270
>NHS
Klaus, launch the V2s
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>>16498283
You can just stop paying attention to Elon if you don't like him
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>>16498513
NASA only exists because taxpayers paid for it
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>>16498515
>just stop paying attention to the most influential person on the planet
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>>16498521
Build your own Elon, asshole
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>>16498522
but I'm retarded!!!!
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>>16498513
NASA didn't do that. North American Aviation, Grumman Aircraft Engineering, IBM, Douglas Aircraft Company, Rocketdyne, MIT Instrumentation Laboratory, Aerojet-General, United Aircraft Corporation, Hughes Aircraft Company, and others did.
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>>16498513
People will seethe but he's right.
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>>16498533
Rocketdyne is such a retrofuturist sounding name.
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>>16498513
>plobes
恥を知れ
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>>16498535
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1862934105123328320
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>>16498545
Not like this, Zubrinsisters
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>>16498545
so, this means... no ministarship?
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>>16498545
how will we do mars direct with the falcon heavy without zubrin
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>>16498545
/sfg/ in shambles
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>>16498545
Damn. End of an era
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>>16498545
Zubrin never really recovered from the Russia hoax. I guess he couldn't accept being lied to by the media for so long.
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SpaceX is at 250bil now
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>>16498545
>zubrin will read this
>he will reply for sure
I don't wanna see mommy and daddy fight :(
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>>16498559
I do, Zubrin is funny as fuck
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>>16498563
hes just an old jew
Everything he doesn't like is Hitler
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>>16498545
This is straight sad. It means no more Musky and Zoozoo at the Mars society convention : (
I was looking forward to their next presentation together...
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>>16498565
and he likes the weirdest shit, it's great
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>>16498545
Zubrinbros. Owari da...
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>>16498558
>American
That's a weird way of spelling Irish.
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>>16498571
>irish
when half of them have indian or asian ceo
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>>16498573
They sure as fuck don't pay taxes to the US, they pay taxes to Ireland.
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>>16498545
What does "CMEPTb OPKAM" mean? Zubrin is constantly posting that
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>>16498588
"smart orks" I think
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>>16498218
LM-12 is not a Falcon clone. It is just a third configuration of LM-7 and LM-8, adding engines to the core and removing the boosters.
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>>16498593
It's operating in the same performance bracket as the 7 and 8 but it's built to a much larger diameter; 3.8m vs. the old LM standard of 3.35m. I think you could technically fit 4 YF-100Ks onto the end of a 3.35m hull, but you wouldn't have any room left for gimbaling
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I wish Musk wouldn't be mean to Zubrin. It's like beating up a kind old man to appear strong.
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>>16498597
zubrin has TDS
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>>16498597
he spent his whole career grifting about mars and then when it might actually happen he goes insane
showing his Jew instincts are much more relevant to him
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>>16498598
Who cares? Orange man not good nor bad. He's just a puppet bribed by Musk.
>>16498600
He just likes mini starship : (
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>>16498598
and soon, EDS...
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>>16498545
Honestly, watching joe "stoolfucker" rogan going from being part of the leftist circlejerk gang to going rightwing and everybody on the left turning on him has been such a funny thing to see.
it's just like with musk, musk and joe rogan where both gods to the left at some point, but now they are the enemy.
And dont get me wrong, not a big fan of joe rogan or something, the best podcasts of joe rogan are the ones where he keeps his mouth shut, but i also never had any needs to hate him, even when he was on the commiefornia gang.
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>>16498593
It's more of a "2nd generation" of their kerolox launcher, more comparable with the upcoming CZ-10. Also different manufacturer than CZ-7/8 (SAST in Shanghai vs CALT in Tianjin), it's also horizontally integrated. It's really a chinese zenit, except halfway through dev they realised they needed a Chinese falcon and so they're gonna replace it with a larger reusable variant next year.
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>>16498617
Apparently upper composite can also be assembled vertically for some payloads.
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>>16498571
>>16498574
Let me guess, next you'll tell us that Liberia is a shipping industry superpower?
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>>16498619
cool plume.
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>>16498626
From Haikou, 80km away
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>>16498616
Zubrin is right tho
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>>16498627
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>>16498629

>>16498628
Divide both of his figures by 2; was $5k in 2010 on proton or chinese rockets or F9, is $1k now on reusable F9
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>>16498624
Shipping industries and their flag of convenience does not really involve paying corporate tax there.
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So 30 launches for the month of November, average of 1 a day. Is that a new record for most launches in a month?
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Good read.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42854
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>16498640
spaceflight?
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>>16498640
How in the fuck is this supposed to be spaceflight rela-
>Written by Robert Zubrin
oh god
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>>16498640
>>16498640
We should just give ukraine nukes and icbm for 10 years. Plus a loan and help to rebuild and improve Yuzhmash factories.
And then tell them they have 10 years to make their own nukes and icbms. If they can't within that time period then they don't deserve to exist as a nation.
Bonus point if they make liquid fuelled icbms ngl, give them 15 years if they decide to go that way.
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>>16498627
>>16498629
>>16498631
Reminder that this is a country that is still classified as a "developing nation" and has several economic benefits because of it on the world stage and still recieves billions in aid every year from the west.
Meanwhile these fuckers have a space program, a space station, the second largest army in the world, are spying on the west, doing economic warfare, and infiltrating western goverments&agencies all over the place.
All this while doing genocide in their own nation and creating slave labor abroad.

I'm sorry for my rant but fuck i dont understand why the west is actively creating a spacefairing superpower that hates west.
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>>16498589
What did he mean by this?
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>>16498649
If you give Ukraine nukes they'll either use them immediately like complete morons or lose them to some nice but very rich middle eastern gentlemen who are absolutely not associated with questionable groups. Yuzhmash doesn't build anything that's worth rebuilding it over and hasn't since the cold war ended. Hell, they didn't even build anything all that exciting while they were still Soviet.
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>>16498640
and this gets us to mars how mr zubrin ?

>we will fight russia till the last ukrainian dies
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>>16498372
>consisted of representatives of certain occupational groups

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
DATS GOMMUNISM
REEEEEEEEEE NAZI COMMIES
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>>16498666
I believe it's actually Italian style fascism
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>>16498666
>satan doesn't know about national socialism
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>>16498667
sounds like rule by union bosses to me
worst thing ever obvs
rocket heads should never even try to speculate about civics
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>>16498672
>>16498672
>sounds like rule by union bosses to me
italian fascism
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>>16498671
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>>16498545
Kek based
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>>16498478
That really sucks for you and I hope you're wrong, I'm going to the moon
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>>16498673
that's thematic, because Mars is Italian
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>>16498680
Indian&texan actually.
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>>16498597
Zubrin lost his fucking mind with the Russia-Ukraine war. Opting to vote for someone who wanted to destroy SpaceX and stop Musk at all cost.
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>>16498691
You should read that kyiv article he wrote. It's derangement far beyond even his usual standards. I'm not sure if he could be more catastrophically wrong about every single point if he was intentionally trying
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>>16498651
dang it, it missed the town, better luck next time!
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>>16498671
explain
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>>16498651
The government of the west hates the west its very simple concept
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>>16498651
Who do you think *controls* the west? Hello.
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>>16498651
Jews. Go look at which foreigners were backing Mao.
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>>16498694
see >>16498674
they are making the booster's LOX header tank much larger, this should be enough to cover both the boostback and landing burns
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>>16498653
That's a copy of his translated book A Case for Mars.
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>>16498674
I thought the ice issue was from partially burnt oxidizer being fed back into the tank for ullage/strength pressure? What will they backfill into this new tank?
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>>16498693
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>>16498707
they don't need to backfill the header tanks to retain structural integrity
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>>16498674
>>16498671
So what's the solution to ice in the tanks in HLS or any other long duration starship?
Purge the tanks on the moon? kek.
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>>16498709
kek, last one was funny.
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>>16498719
Think about when which tanks are used anon.
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>>16498545
Saraba, tomoyo
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Starship
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>>16498736
Is it just me or AI development has stalled?
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>>16498709
I just still think that it's impressive in so many levels that China can get away with this and absolutely no one gives a shit. No media outrage, no angry normies, nothing, complete silence. Meanwhile, some beetles get dozens of headlines. Now imagine if SpaceX were to drop a booster onto people like China does... yeah, it would be WWIII-level of outrage and legal consequences.
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>>16498741
It's getting incremental improvements but nothing like the early days. Some of the anime cooler models are legit impressive though.
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>>16498727
HLS doesnt have header tanks and will be filled with pure ice by the refuelling ship.
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>>16498741
image gen is really good outside of normie online shit
self hosted SDXL models for various kinds of degen porn (anime, furry, etc) are incredibly good
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>>16498741
>>16498746
the retards popping out these elon musk images are probably doing it on their jeet thinkpads using some dodgy website with god knows what outdated crap model rather than hosting the model locally.
Flux 1D can create celebrities who look indistinguishable from reality with very little effort.
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SpaceX targeting 15 launches in December for 136 in total, will they finally beat Space Shuttle record (135 launches)???
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>>16498754
lots of them are from grok itself
which has terrible image gen
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>>16498757
Falcon 9 has already beat the shuttle ages go. How is 136 in a year similar to 135 over 30 years? those things arent the same.
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>>16498415
F9 sells for 70m
F9 costs 15m
For 38 launches you profit 2b.
For 2b you could launch 140 starlink launches, they launched 88. So they still were profitable and made 770m.
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>>16498760
Or in otherwords 1 commercial launch supports 3.5 starlink launches.
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>>16498758
I think it uses the schnell model of flux which is lower quality than thedev model. you also need a lora for the celebrity to make them look 1 to 1 real.
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>>16498629
>以箭为
what's the next word?
I'm always surprised how crazy China looks on /sfg/ as opposed to in real life
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>>16498741
>more progress in the last three years than in the prior three decades
yeah, it's completely stopped
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https://vocaroo.com/1cyXtQvqN0eT
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>>16498671
>Header tanks bigger than entire fucking rockets
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>>16498778
Is this an ai or did you pay a woman to record this or are you that much of a voicelet
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>>16498781
Its always AI.
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Tory posting exclusive shit on Bluesky now.
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>>16498784
Classic Musk derangement syndrome
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>>16498745
HLS will have header tanks, it doesn't need them in the nose because it won't be doing a reentry/bellyyflop/flip.
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>>16498784
Nigga trying to dodge community notes
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>>16498666
syndicalism
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>>16498795
modded hoi iv ahhh ideology
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If something akin to the Alcubierre drive is even unprohibited, why should you even need to try and go FTL? Mitigating the effects of time dilation should be the first priority. Why not just travel at 99% the speed of light in a bubble? Does that even change the feasibility of such a project?
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>goes FTL
>hits some rock dust
>dies
lol
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>>16498773
If there's a clearer photo of the roll-out, I haven't been able to find it anywhere. The only other capture of the assembly building (?) is in this video, and it's not clear enough to make out the signage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUhTfgcydig

You'd think it'd be labeled on a facilities map of Wenchang but I haven't been able to find one of those either
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>>16498804
Trick is to open a pocket of spacetime in the front arc of the ship. Or around the ship so that debris are split apart on "contact" with the edges.
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>>16498802
there wouldn't be time dilation in an Alcubierre ship, given that it's space that is moving, not the ship.
think of it as being constantly teleported, so much so that any ship with such tech would need to match the velocity and trajectory of the destination before or after using the drive
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>>16498808
I'm pretty sure that the bubble pushes away anything that's not inside of it
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>>16498368
do they want to get fucked by the great elon musk in the coming trump admin? Also, spacex should lobby texas or the fed to re/move residential areas near starbase in the name of national security to avoid this kind of shit
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CZ-12 is the third chinese rocket to use coal-derived kerozene, after Tianlong 2&3
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>>16498741
>tech development is another log curve
God dammit this keeps happening
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>>16498784
>>16498793
Note: Vulcan engine reuse is a fucking sacam
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>>16498808
>open a pocket of spacetime
It turns out that infinite aliens have tried this before and it's what keeps causing the big bang
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>>16498831
Comfy stagnant 40k future incoming.
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>>16498769
>you also need a lora for the celebrity to make them look 1 to 1 real.
Can you make one of these yourself?
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Berger uses Bluesky btw
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>>16498838
fuck you
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>>16498838
I can see that. His Musk derangement syndrome showed up during the heat of election.
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youre not supposed to include post links when doing fuck you posts anon
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>>16498558
What can we do to kick saudi aramco out of the top 10?
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>>16498838
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1863043790723772637
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>>16498784
oh shit is SMART real? I though it was just powerpoint slides, I didn’t know they got as far as pathfinder hardware.
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>>16498841
I'll never understand EDS. It lurks within the hearts of those you'd least expect. Is there anything that can be done with them?
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>>16498804
You're already warping space to do it, just make the cross-section of the ship infinitesimally small so you never hit anything and can fly through planets and stars
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>>16498851
He recently made a retarded reply to a 2 year old Elon post without realizing its age and now is paranoid about twitter.
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>>16498856
I can't wait to see ULA completely shit itself. I want to go to the liquidation auctions.
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>>16498858
What are you buying at the ULA auction? Personally I’m grabbing myself a couple atlas Vs while they still have them
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>>16498278
>Are brits retarded?
Over 17% of bongs have fetal alcohol syndrome, and keep in mind that's just the white ones since muslims don't drink.
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>>16498863
the muslims are inbred t. FAS brit
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>>16498856
boomers should not be allowed to use a phone or computer
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>>16498784
SMART would be cool, assuming they can get the big tank part of the booster to be cheap
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what would alien spaceships realistically look like?
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>>16498871
The same as human ones. We're all constrained by the same physics
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>>16498871
A lot like human ones, with design choices depending on preferred materials and production techniques.
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>>16498809
I was worriee about the buildup of radiation and how to slow down, and if going sublight would help.
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17 launches in 1 month. Who else is even competing?
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>>16498895
>Who else is even competing?
The entire rest of the world, combined.
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Without reading this thread or any others in couple of weeks; where, when or how is the bezos blue dildo? Wasn't it supposed to launch last month or something?
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>>16498900
static fire within the next week or so, launch by end of year if that goes well
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>>16498900
Q1 prob
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i didnt even notice, but we did it, 2024 is the most launches in a year
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>>16498904
and we have a very good chance of surpassing 250 launches too
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>>16498904
>SpaceX alone was getting close to world super power record on its own
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If we ever are to have millions of people living off-world. How would business be done? Are we talking Earth nations utilizing their off-world colonies to get resources and fuck each other over? Powerful off-world nations having full sovereignty away from any Earth based nation? Or East India/Wagner style corporations doing the deeds of nations for them with a little extra for themselves to keep the numbers green? How does that shit actually play out?
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>>16498918
this new wave of colonization is nothing like before. no good ways to compare or know until it happens.
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Man, the internet would be so slow on Mars. You wouldn't even be able to play multiplayer games unless you have a sizeable population there already (there won't). I guess it would be a pretty nice flex having a Mars flag on /pol/ though. What would the ping from Luna to Earth be?
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>>16498935
a few seconds
long enough that the current internet won't work but it's easy to solve and you could still post on /b/
Mars is far enough away that the delay is long enough that you won't be able to post to /b/ because threads would die before you managed to reply
other boards would work, maybe not /pol/, I forget how long it takes threads to 404 over there
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>>16498935
3000 ping from Luna
bad, but not out of the realm of ye olde geosat ping, so it'll be bad but useable
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>>16498937
I guess it depends on how far away Mars is from Earth. At its closest, you could reply to a post in 8 minutes, which is well within the realm of possibility. Some threads last for hours on /pol/. At its furthest, you'd be waiting three quarters of an hour just to make one post, and I think 4chan times out way before then.

Makes me wonder why 4chan even has Ceres and Pluto flags set up.

>>16498938
So I guess online shooters are off the table, but at least you can still browse the web and play strategy games with relative ease from your Luna hotel.
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>>16498935
I imagine the first 1000 mars colonists will generally be pretty busy, but it wouldn't be too hard to coordinate 3 bros to play a 4 player coop hoard shooter
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>tfw no ansible
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>>16498466
gravity yes, 1g no
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>>16498973
>tfw the most 'feasible' propulsion system for interstellar travel is a black hole starship where you utilize the energy from an artificially created primordial black hole only a few attometers wide created using hundreds of square kilometer solar arrays orbiting the sun over the course of multiple years and channeling that energy into massive fuckoff lasers all colliding into one insanely precise spot

Just fuck my shit up Jim jam.
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>>16498665
jews have certain thought patterns that are set in their DNA at this point, 1 is we want our Khazaria back and 2 is "half the goy on earth should permanently be at war with the other half and we jews should make a lot of money off of this"
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>>16498649
We actually took away their Soviet nukes and gave them to Russia in the 90s because they were a basket case EVEN COMPARED TO 90S RUSSIA. They went from third largest nuclear power to zero because Washington and Moscow said so.

In retrospect we should have also forcibly dismantled China, India, Pakistan, and Israel's nuclear weapons programs in the 90s. Fucking Clinton.
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>>16498992
>Fucking Clinton.
you can say that again just for him handing our missile tech over to the Chinese as he left the White House
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>>16498858
>>16498860
>What are you buying at the ULA auction? Personally I’m grabbing myself a couple atlas Vs while they still have them
I'm gonna buy Tory's hat and shit in it
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>>16498856
Three. It was from 2021. He deleted the reply in shame when called out.
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The only thing I hate more than Musk is ziggers. Thanks for leaking hypergolic propellant onto the ISS you fucking mongrels
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>>16499013
*into
also Musk is good
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>>16498651
>i dont understand why the west is actively creating a spacefairing superpower that hates west.
We're too overreliant on the cheap shit we get from them
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>>16499013
>>16499020
schizo much, Seth?
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>>16498270
At least he accurately portrayed Starship.
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>MUH SKEETZO!!!!
>MUH JOOS!!!
Whos the real schizophrenic here hmm? Your type will be ejected via airlock
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anon, who are you talking to?
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This general is becoming more deranged with each passing day waiting for a Starship launch.
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>>16498888
To slow down you simply turn it off, now about radiation you can't really go around it.
My guess is if you have technology to build an Alcubierre drive you probably have technology to deal with it's radiation
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i am as think as peeing soup. pee soup.
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fuck you
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>>16499045
good morning, anon
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God i want dragon chan to smash mhmy fukin nuts
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>>16499047
Found the reason why wheel_stop went private
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good morning saar
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>>16499054
who gives a shit
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I unironically want to make Warhammer 40k real. I want to become adeptus mechanicus
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>>16499068
adebdus meganiggus :DDDD
ur blag :DDDD
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>>16499089
fug :-DDDDDDDD
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>>16499068
something Elon would post at 2am
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>>16498904
Saddam Hussain curve
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>>16499093
Stop I feel like I’m going crazy I see it everywhere
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>>16498870
lol, that's the opposite of what it's designed for. It's designed for them to reuse 3rd party engines and charge full price for their fancy milled tanks.
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>>16499089
Best I can do is this old edit.
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Starlink trains in space
>https://x.com/astro_Pettit/status/1863113416098873407
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>>16499068
Can't relate at all. I'm hoping AI unlocks gene editing like it did protein folding this year. I'm going to be hitlers top guy, 8 feet tall, two hearts, and an IQ just below the threshold where you're just schizophrenic. Launch me to Mars alone, I can do it myself then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMyunbsfFw
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>>16499160
not clicking that
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>>16499160
>the last five videos on this science channel are about trump
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>>16499170
If we don't spend every second talking about Trump in every possible context, people might think that he's not a narcissist who thinks the world revolves around him.
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>>16499170
I miss 2013 tf00t :(
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>>16499197
I miss the time before ecelebs.
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>>16498895
kesseler syndrome speedrun any%
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>>16499218
You can't even spell Kessler. Please stop having an opinion.
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>>16498982
Nah we could go interstellar with current day tech just big ass pusher plates and nukes.
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>>16498982
>the most 'feasible' propulsion system for interstellar travel is magic I made up just now
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newfag
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Big SLC-40 vibes
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>>16499268
>>>/pol/490103388
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>>16498773
以箭为梯 筑梦九天
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5106852812226606?from=old_pc_videoshow
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>>16499120
>minding your own business in LEO
>there are actually 50,000 satellites zipping around over your head
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When is BO rocket lunching?
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Can you really claim to understand rocket engine if you don't have a thorough understanding of one of these bad boys?
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Why is she looking at him like this?
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>>16499291
AI generated image
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>>16499293
It's real https://youtu.be/ytrtFsXRXGY?si=PsjDc4Xlvlql-jgy&t=583.
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>>16499295
AI generated video
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>>16499284
haha, nice
thanks
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>>16499291
she doesn't have her glasses on
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I just like Callisto.
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>>16499120
looks like some shit out of scifi. too bad orbital traffic is hidden from viewers on earth because of "muh night sky".
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>>16499295
Good lord her little friend wants to fuck him so bad
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>>16498856
It’s funny because Elon is Tory's archnemesis, but Elon doesn't even need to think about Tory anymore.

It's like if you beat someone in a second grade spelling bee and they spent the remainder of their life planning how to beat you at another spelling contest for children.
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weirdest compressor you've ever seen
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>>16499343
Each flute of the screw acts as a separate chamber. The spur shaped gates close either end of a chamber when they're meshed with it. The length of the sealed portion of each chamber decreases as the screw turns, compressing the gas inside. A key feature is that the amount of compression can be adjusted by changing the size of the exhaust port.

But what does it have to do with space? Does Elon own a Daikin AC?
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>>16499354
>Each flute of the screw acts as a separate chamber. The spur shaped gates close either end of a chamber when they're meshed with it. The length of the sealed portion of each chamber decreases as the screw turns, compressing the gas inside. A key feature is that the amount of compression can be adjusted by changing the size of the exhaust port.
did you copy that from somewhere?
>But what does it have to do with space?
Surely there's gonna be some compressor on the colony. To compress the air into greenhouses with plants...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxIKu4DVC8
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>>16499360
Is it possible to make an engine any simpler? This tube probably has like 100 horsepower
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>>16499360
>did you copy that from somewhere?
No, although I can see why you'd think that
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>>16499363
Is it possible to use gear pumps as compressors?
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>>16499366
Yes, but not in every application
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>>16499042
The world of spaceflight is entering ludicrous levels of clownery.
When the world is a circus, act like a clown.
Do these look good on me?
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fuck you
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>>16499291
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>>16499433
They got that 150 billion dollar divorce stare
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>>16499437
Nah, elon is too smart for that, otherwise he would have lost all his money a long time ago because of his breeding fetish.
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>elom gets divorced
>loses custody of starship and tsarlink
>mankind enters the dark ages again
DONT DO IT ELON THE PUSSY AINT WORTH IT
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>>16499433
Will grandpa Donald allow it?
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>>16499442
>>16499439
>>16499443
Elon doesn't marry anymore. He just breeds whoever he wants.
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>>16499360
put the ramjets on long, thin tethers so they can travel at supersonic speeds while the rotor blades are subsonic
nothing could possibly go wrong
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>>16499360
>high night-time visibility of the ramjet flames
holy kino
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Remember when Bezos divorced and lost a lot of money?
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>>16499448
Imagine how much slower he could go with twice as much money
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>Elon Musk is now following Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders
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>>16499360
what fucking abominable hellscape of a "museum" has a printout of wikipedia instead of information they themselves know to be true
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>>16499047
is this wheel_stop's new shit
thanks
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>>16499054
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>>16499462
>has a printout of wikipedia
citation needed
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Three body problem
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>>16499472
me, clear and banana clear
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>>16499470
How did you figure out how to press the submit post button when you're this stupid?
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>>16499298
AI generated post
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Astronomers are fucking retarded.

>let's call this moon 'titan'
>let's call this moon 'titania'
>let's call this moon 'triton'
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>>16499155
I want a tail
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>>16499466
>starship reduces number of annual launches

reuse has no financial value in the end
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>>16499476
>one word too similar to other word
>me no understand
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>>16499476
At least they got it right with Uranus
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>>16499474
Did you consider that a reply of "citation needed" to a post about Wikipedia might not be entirely serious?
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>>16499477
monsterboys are cringe faggotslop but gene editing women into loyal monstergirl wives is a good idea.
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>>16499489
Usually jokes are funny, my bad
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>>16499068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7eNFj_9Vk
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>>16499462
What is a curator if not an IRL wikipedian?
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>>16499495
Curators get paid for their time.
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How would /sfg/ feel about having a /sfg/ Create: Northstar server when they add more planets and multi-staging rockets? I wouldn't mind hosting.
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>>16499517
sounds cool, but I haven't played it yet lmao
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>>16499490
there's no way to guarantee that my cute daughters will have tails if both me and my beautiful wife don't both have tails
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>>16499522
I'm testing it and it seems fine albeit a bit rough around the edges. It works well with other Create mods like the ones that add nuclear power and generators. I could see it being a nice little way to waste time in-between launches and LARP about our Mars colonies and custom rockets.

Someone even made a working Starship catch.
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BO was right
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>>16498871
The problem is that space craft have little to no aesthetic considerations, only functional ones. I can imagine an alien race that highly values or needs more organic geometry or angular geometry to make something more flowy or spiky. Humans seems to like boxes and cylinders just fine. It might also be possible that aliens have some kind of plant that for whatever reason is perfect for making vehicles out of. Like some kind of super wood. Maybe they would grow some parts of vehicles rather than manufacture them. If you want to write fiction you really just have to ask yourself how the aliens and what they value differ from what humans value
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>>16499528
oh, so that vid was made with this mod huh
okay, I would play it. Not sure how often I could join though
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>>16498871
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>>16498977
What is the basis for this claim?
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>>16498034
yeah obviously we're going to at least 1.75g
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>>16499467
nah that one's old. she hasnt made anything in a bit
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>>16499539
yeah, he's too busy sperging out about something. I still don't know why he deleted his acc in the first place? Hormones acting up?
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>>16499517
>Create: Northstar
I have no clue what that is, but I still remember when many anons here were planning on playing together when KSP2 multiplayer mode would come out kek
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>>16498871
realistically we'll never see any, so knock yourself out
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>>16499466
>8T = Heavy lift
when are the categories getting redefined?
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>>16499542
Some minecraft shit.
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>>16499542
it's a minecraft mod
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>>16499546
anything below 100 tons is a small launcher
also, "deep space" means beyond neptune/pluto
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>>16499550
based
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the soviet classification system is perfectly adequate and historic
small lift: under 5 metric tons
medium lift: between 5 and 20 metric tons
heavy lift: between 20 and 100 metric tons
super heavy lift: above 100 metric tons
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>>16499562
where would ITS, in expendable mode, fit into that classification?
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>>16499567
chungus lift
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>>16499567
"suka blyat we surrender"
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>>16499567
>550 tons
super super heavy
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page 9, Staging!!!
>>16499181
>>16499181
>>16499181
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when something that big is ever built we will discuss what comes after super heavy lift
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Gigalift
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Megalift
Megalith
Monolith
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>>16499582
but anon.. isn't starship in expendable mode able to lift like 200 tons right now?
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>>16499588
well each earlier category is a multiple of four or five larger than the one before it, so we won't need to worry about that until we're at 500 tons
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>>16499517
I would be worried about this thread being like /vg/mmcg/ where everyone uses the thread like the discord server for the greg server. Maybe post in /mmcg/ and link that post here but don't otherwise talk about it. Would play if I had time for sure though
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>>16499587
Monolith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atm0GwWs6lw
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>>16499587
Monorail
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Hercules class vehicles fucking when
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>>16499589
The USACE needs to be deployed to fill in that wetland and dredge out additions to the Brownsville harbor so additional pads can be built and local infrastructure can be upgraded to support the most strategically significant location of the 21st century.
Fuck it, eminent domain South Padre Island and just keep building launch pads up the coast.
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>>16499600
based, plover holocaust incoming
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>>16499600
it would be easier to go full Polk and simply claim that part of Mexico, it's closer than S. Padre Island anyway
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What a funny coincidence that both Space Florida Carneval and Starbased Texas are mushy wetland marshes.
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>>16499602
True, there's a lot of unoccupied wetland. We could just make Texas a little pointier on the chin.
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>>16499605
That's just the only place that's
1. Next to the ocean and
2. A pain in the ass to live and build on
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>>16499606
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>>16499609
based, now replace the name "United States" with "Muskland"
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>>16499609
imagine another 100 million browns in the usa
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>>16499612
The country would flourish even more than now
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>>16499562
just use the floor of the base 10 logarithm of the payload in tons
then you don't ever need to come up with a new system
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>>16499612
Northern Mexico was sparsely populated at that time. The new states would have gotten Anglo'd the same way the border states were in our timeline.
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>>16499619
>the same way the border states were in our timeline
t. never seen photos of New Mexico
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>>16499619
the current border states are majority mexican right now though
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>>16499612
nowhere near 100 million in those areas. cuba is only 11 mil. baja california is 4.5. sonora 3, chihuahua 4, coahuilia 3, nuevo leon 6, tamaulipas 3, yucatan 3.
So approximately ~38million in todays population.
But if it had happened under Polk back in the 1840s the number of browns would be different. many would have been moved south, and whites would have settled in, as happened in Texas and California under his presidency.
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>>16499600
You need a better plan: the salt marsh is a huge flood control zone for the built up areas. The factory would flood if the marsh was filled in. I agree with building up pads all the way down to the Mexican border, though: just put the vehicle transport infrastructure on piers to keep the salt marsh functioning as a marsh. Annexing a chunk of Mexico and building a bridge over the Rio Grande isn't the worst idea either, but the environmental concerns are actually more relevant down there because of the better habitats for the species of concern.
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>>16499622
Why did they voluntarily leave a good country for a worse one?
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>>16499624
Retard here how do marshes control floods?
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>>16499625
natives aren't citizens, they're a hostile nation
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>>16499626
>>16499624
they can prevent flooding downstream by slowing water
they don't prevent upstream flooding and salt marshes are already at sea level, so I think in this case the effect would be fuck all
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>>16499626
>>16499638
The vegetated dunes function as breakwaters that minimize coastal erosion, even when the ground is saturated. This is important for Texas, since the law of the coastline is that as the coast goes, so too do the zoning easements. As a flood plain, sponge up flood water. https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2251
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I just dreamt that NASA was going to build the first base on Mars as a 20-story brutalist commie block with 8 rocket engines attached (looked like J-2s) to take off at any moment.
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>>16499642
>links to paywalled article on /sci/
>adds shit that isn't in the article and doesn't make any fucking sense
you sure are one gay nigger
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Feels good living in the mediterranean where the fucking sea can't wash away the coast.
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>>16499652
lets drain it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa
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>>16499645
that was no dream. It was a message from the future. You Must do it now.
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>>16499647
Whatever you say, ESL-tan.
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>>16499035
spazz
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>>16499659
This would raise sealevels everywhere else flooding florida !
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>>16499659
honestly a fantastic idea
how technically feasible is it to build a dam where one side is ocean though?
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>>16499536
it came to me in a revelation
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>>16499693
both sides are ocean, and it's impossible because salt water eats concrete
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>>16499693
fuck off moses
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>>16499693
fuck off moses
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>>16499662
honestly it just got me wondering about the structural integrity of reinforced concrete
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>>16499693
we should ask the Dutch for help
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>>16499485
No they didn't. It's supposed to be Caelus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMyunbsfFw
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>>16499726
Go away Phil. Make some chemistry videos.
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>>16499726
why isn't this cunt deboonking new glenn, sls, skylon, orbex, skyrora, astra, yenisei, long march 9, etc etc. So many scams and powerpoint rockets out there, yet he only focuses on the company that launches 10 times more than the rest of the planet combined wtf
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>>16499726
elon is so stupid he became shadow president of the united states xDd wat a fuxkin retard guys XXXD
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>>16499731
Mouth breathers don't know about any of those things.
But they've been told that Elon is bad, so it's a good market to capitalize on.
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>>16499732
Is he really the "shadow" president when he's so open about it?
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starship status?
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>>16499737
He only gives a fuck to the extent that he needs to clear blockers for Mars. That's why DOGE winds down in summer 2026, the goal is to have all the blockers cleared by the next synod.
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>>16499742
>That's why DOGE winds down in summer 2026, the goal is to have all the blockers cleared by the next synod.
Fuck, you're right. I can't believe I'm still underestimating how solely focused he is on Mars.
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>>16499744
>Shouting is Fun version of the meme
Based
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Just drove back to college. Fuck I hate driving when can I get my own E2E Starship?? Or preferably M2M
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>>16499740
>starship
>legs
anime still isn't real
seethe, cope, lose hope and rope
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>>16499775
Anon, I...
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1054501056229588992
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>>16499744
that anon looks sort of familiar. DOGE only winds down if they make no progress by the mid-terms. I think Trump is doing that with all his executive positions.
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>>16499777
kek, anti anime sperg got btfo'd again
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>>16498270
>Private rail companies bad
This kills the euro
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>>16499786
Please don't lump us all in with the UK, some of us have functional privatized rail.
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>>16498308
I'm going to find her and marry her
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>>16498558
>Saudi Aramco was founded in California by Standard Oil of California (now Chevron)
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AHHHHH LAUNCH THE FECKIN ROCKET ELON IM GOING INSANE WAITING
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>>16499791
>I am personally not on Mars yet
It's over. Felon Husk exposed
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>>16499788
I'm already in her DMs, better luck next time, champ. That's short for champion
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https://x.com/NASAKennedy/status/1863236616606589118
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>>16499797
>every response is "cancel SLS"
based
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>>16499797
Imagine how much better Starship would be if it had a couple of these puppies
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/sfg/ is dood.
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>>16499829
wie hebben en seerious probleem
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>>16499829
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new
>>16499847
>>16499847
>>16499847
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>>16497795
i remember watching this one live
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>>16497796
QD failure iirc
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>>16499904
didn't they just fuck up some valves
like straight up user error
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>>16499907
yeah
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>>16499562
100 will become medium lift



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