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Toxic incel discussion goes to the /adv/ ATOGA: >>>/adv/atoga
Check FAQ; ask for detail on entries needed
Be concise; use linebreaks
This isn't GIOYC

FAQ:
>What do men/women think about <any trait/interest incl. looks/figure, virginity/bodycount, height, fitness, penis/breasts/butt size/shape, sex act>?
>Do any <men/women> like <a complex on the above>?
There's no one answer, but complexes are a turn-off

>Where do I go on a date?
Coffee is the ideal 1st date, but any of these work: food, drinks, ice cream, froyo, film, zoo, aquarium, museum, gallery, park

>I'm shy/afraid of <people/rejection>
>Where/how do I meet people for <friends/love/socialization>?
It takes time & effort. Leave your comfort zone. Find an activity you're passionate about.

>I'm a virgin with no friends, what do?
Get friends first

>I like someone, what do?
>How do I tell if someone likes me?
Ask him/her out; "signs" of attraction don't exist

>Something insignificant happened! What does it mean?
Can't say w/o detail; odds are you're overthinking it

>Someone made it clear he/she isn't interested. Do I have a chance?
No

>Do cold approaches work?
Not unless you have used car salesman levels of charisma

>Can I get out of the friendzone?
Not directly. All strats require friendship to decay to casual acquaintance, potential sexual attraction, & focus on him/her to die. You may need to date others to do this. The goal: approximate a normal pre-dating relationship and date normally. Success is very low, but higher than staying friends, but may take years.

Don't do the following:
>Q/claim/insecurity about penises/breasts
>Deliberately hide people's sex in Qs
>Ask generic hypos with no details if you want specific advice
>Re-ask a Q ignoring prev. replies
>Whine about all men/women
>Whine about OP/FAQ
>Whine if someone rejects the premise of a Q
>Whine if responses differ from expectations

>Where's the new thread?
Make one! Try these macros: imgur.com/a/y6BF2
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Women don't browse this board. Everything is a larp.
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M or F
What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
Are there certain attributes you prefer(hair color, eye color, etc…)?
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>>32157821
M
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
I've recently come to realize that I really like lips. And in that vein, a nice smile will slay me.
>Are there certain attributes you prefer(hair color, eye color, etc…)?
Not really, no. I like a wide variety and don't have any particular preference in those regards. If I currently have a crush on someone I become obsessed with whatever their attributes are, not the other way around.
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>>32157821
I flip flop between favorite hair and eye colors, but that's because they're all pretty and I've seen proof of every type. Same with hair styles or body types, Stacies or Beckies doesn't matter. What's important to me is that she avoids the usual traps like bad makeup, bad dye colors, face piercings, lip injections, distasteful ink. More often than not the girl is born with good genetics but she ruins it with ill decisions from social pressure.
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>>32157821
M. Bony hands, thin wrists, collarbones. It all drives me wild. I hold the hand of a girl like that I immediately pop a boner.
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M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?

F, what do you think is the biggest problem facing women today?

>>32157821
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
F
Not individual traits, but I've noticed I like certain traits in groups. If a man has golden blonde hair, I want him to have light eyes and a warm complexion. If a woman has alabaster skin, I want her to have dark hair and eyes.
Those kinds of things
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>>32157893
>M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
Obsession with masculinity. It's the root of so many branches of problems. The reluctance to display any emotion, reluctance to get help with anything, reluctance to show any weakness at all, putting others down or doing other things to get a leg up on them, violent tendencies, feeling worthless if we think our body or height or dick or whatever can't compete with other men, the list goes on. It all comes from that.
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>>32157692
Just got back from the gym with a nasty leg pump. Do girls like muscular legs?
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How come girls react like utter subhumans if they find out I don't own a phone? Also why do girls use "weirdo" as an insult, but guys generally don't? Also why should you kill yourself if you're a pathetic non human?
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F, what aspects of traditional masculinity do you like? Mercy, Honesty, Duty, etc. Do you like them at all?
>>32157821
M
The stomach and the buttocks, my favorite part of the face is usually the eyelashes. Weirdly I like grabbing a girl's pelvis and squeezing a little bit along the arch. Idk hard to describe it with text but iykyk.
>>32157893
M
In America? Probably our suicide rate.
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>>32157821
The most? Hard to say. I do have a bit of a type. Ideally speaking I like pale skin. Soft hair that looks like it smells good. Not too skinny. Not too heavy. Let's say slightly chubby. Shoulders and a neck I can put my teeth in. Wide hips. A round butt and full thighs to squeeze. A determined look in her eyes. Full, round breasts. Fat cunt. Ultimately the make-or-break is how she carries and presents herself. Sum >parts.

>>32157893
Today? Men are fallling behind in education. Many fall through the cracks. Traditional gender roles are dissappearing. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but men seem to have a hard time adjusting and many sort of check out.
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F
>>32157821
white skin, dark and long hair, big arms, a lil chubby
>>32158246
assuming they match the rest of you, yes
>>32158261
>How come girls react like utter subhumans if they find out I don't own a phone?
i don't know what kind of reaction you mean, but it's strange to not own a phone in this day and age
>Also why do girls use "weirdo" as an insult, but guys generally don't?
weird describing a guy = creepy/odd
weird describing a girl = manic pixie dream girl
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>>32157692
Girls:
What would be the ideal penis size/girth of your partner?
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>>32157893
>M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
A lack of meaning and purpose. I think most problems men face are either caused by or made worse by this lack of meaning and purpose. If men lack a positive vision of their lives and of the future then they have no reason to strive to be better or to contribute to society.
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>>32157893
>M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
Before all a man needed was a job to get a gf which lead to a family, now that women make their own money and have higher standards we're in this state of limbo.

I think women's problem is that their biological need of wanting to raise a family and take care of their children is in a constant battle over "equality".
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>>32158562
I think the issue with equality is that it doesn’t actually exist. Therefore, the only tangible way for women to perform at equality is to “do what men do.” Whatever one thinks of changing gender roles, they haven’t made anyone more equal, especially not when it’s based on “doing whatever a man can do equally good or better.”
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>>32158584
Well I think women were heavily pushed into the career meme that having kids makes you unhappy and making CEO Mr. Goldman a million more dollars while you earn pennies in comparison will make you happy.

Women are also stuck in a hard place with everything being so much more expensive now that they need a much higher paying man in order for him to provide for her if she wants to be a home maker while also needing a job in the first place to just live.
Unless you get married at 18 to some 35 year old 6 figure a year guy you have to do something in the meantime and you also have to watch out so you don't get used by some guy who doesn't commit.

Meanwhile average men aren't getting a crumb of pussy anymore and jobs are being outsourced like crazy and thus we have less and less demand for our services and nonlivable earnings in comparison.
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>>32158665
Yeah, that’s about the gist of it.
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>>32157919
So you think insecurities stemming from "toxic" masculinity?
>>32158246
Yes but muscular ≠ big. Large legs take away from the optics of a wide chest and back.
>>32158261
>How come girls react like utter subhumans if they find out I don't own a phone?
Because most women survive by networking. It's in our genes and has been for hundreds of thousands of years.
>why do girls use "weirdo" as an insult, but guys generally don't?
Because men are the socially awkward ones and are judged by women on their ability to be sociable. Men don't give a shit if a woman is socially awkward, some even prefer it. I get guys chasing me when they find out I'm autistic.
>why should you kill yourself if you're a pathetic non human?
You shouldn't.
>>32158281
>F, what aspects of traditional masculinity do you like?
I like the strength and comfort a good man provides. Men don't have to be emotionless but I think an emotionally mature man knows when and where to be emotional. He should be a safe harbor in a storm for those around him. As well as general masculine traits like confidence, discipline, ambition. I don't like that masculinity is used by other women as a dirty word when most of them try their best to emulate those same traits to be successful but want to rebrand them with shit like "a woman can't be confident?"
>In America? Probably our suicide rate.
Doesn't this seem like putting the cart before the horse?
>>32158292
>men seem to have a hard time adjusting and many sort of check out.
Likely due to a lack of help. Educators are primarily women and boys aren't given the same pathways to success that a lot of girls are. If a woman wants to enter the STEM field, she is incentivized to do so. If a man want to be a nurse, he's put at the end of the line.
>>32158532
Women's opinion on penis size is like men's on vaginas. They may look different, but so long as they get the job done, 99% of people don't care.
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Dear sluts, and I mean that endearingly I think y’all are hot, how would you best like to be approached while out cruising a bar?
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>>32158737
>So you think insecurities stemming from "toxic" masculinity?
Pretty much, yeah. It's kinda crazy how much that stuff is on our mind. The pressure to be manly. Can even take us to an early grave, from mental or medical issues we're too strong and proud to get checked. Just imagine how many men would sternly refuse a prostate exam, despite the ridiculously high rates of prostate cancer.
Once I started making an active effort to care less about being masculine, it felt like I turned on a cheat code.
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>>32158546
>A lack of meaning and purpose.
What do you think can be done to help men?
>>32158562
>Before all a man needed was a job to get a gf which lead to a family
Do you think men can thrive in today's dating world, considering everyone's standards are going up for long-term partners? And do you think men are forgoing families entirely due to that?
>>32158584
I agree. Equality also doesn't factor in the pitfalls of being a man. Women still have their emotional support, don't have to be the pursuer in dating, don't have to register for selective service, etc.
>>32158665
I agree with all of this, but I think the way forward is to balance all of that. Both working but also both maintaining the home and family.
>>32158754
>Can even take us to an early grave, from mental or medical issues we're too strong and proud to get checked.
Is it really a desire to seem masculine that causes this, though? To me, it's always seemed that boys are conditioned to not voice their problems and they become men that don't know how to articulate those problems. Like that man that drove to the hospital after shooting himself in the heart because he didn't want to bother anyone.
>Just imagine how many men would sternly refuse a prostate exam, despite the ridiculously high rates of prostate cancer.
I don't want anyone messing with my butthole either.
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>>32158761
>Is it really a desire to seem masculine that causes this, though? To me, it's always seemed that boys are conditioned to not voice their problems
Yes, because that's masculine to us. Be a man, rub some dirt on it, walk it off, etc. Real men don't voice problems, they fix them! It all leads back to society's idea of masculinity and our desire to fit that mold.
>I don't want anyone messing with my butthole either.
Same, but a few minutes of a finger probing my butt sounds better than a potential lifetime of cancer.
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>>32158761
>Do you think men can thrive in today's dating world, considering everyone's standards are going up for long-term partners? And do you think men are forgoing families entirely due to that?
Personally I think it's less that the standards are crazy high and more that male and female spaces are increasingly stratified. A lot of women are also ending up alone and some of it is due to standards like education but mostly it's that places like this are male dominated and places where females talk are female dominated.

>What do you think can be done to help men?
This is a very hard question. Right now, a lot of men don't feel a sense of purpose because they don't really have to do anything. You can sit around and jack off and no one will care about you at all. The only way to get value is accomplish things. Setting people on track to accomplish those things isn't easy, but probably starts with a rigorous and flexible education system that prepares people more broadly for whatever subject they have aptitude in.
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>>32158761
>What do you think can be done to help men?
I wish I knew. BUT I do know two things that won’t help: Trying to return to a previous status quo or trying to make men more “sensitive” and less masculine. I think neither of these will work because they’re both fragile systems that fail to adapt to change. Those wanting a return to a previous status quo don’t have the vision or drive to build a new, better, less fragile system and prefer to dwell in nostalgia, they’re intellectually lazy and lack imagination. The “sensitive” male on the other hand just sees men as flawed women and eventually retreats into a fantasy world where he doesn’t have to compete or grow or do anything productive or useful, he sacrifices himself for comfort.

If there is an answer it has to be something new, something that isn’t a return to the past or a retreat from reality. Something that recognizes that men and women are fundamentally different yet need to work together.

But a good starting point would be something like having integrity, courage, a removal of unearned guilt and resentment, a love of strength and knowledge, friendships, community, growth, and a goal or challenge that betters oneself and helps the tribe. This is just me spitballing but I do think it would be a good start.
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A question for girls, is a low libido a deal breaker?
I feel or fear that, if I were to be with someone, my low libido may sour things down if she's always in a heat. I heard of men a lot of disgusting things, but I think the best answer can be attained from girls
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>>32158452
>assuming they match the rest of you, yes
Good, what’s your preferred muscle group if you don’t mind me asking?
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>>32158754
>Just imagine how many men would sternly refuse a prostate exam, despite the ridiculously high rates of prostate cancer
I don't want to live that long, anyway.
I'm glad I'm still not at that age where I'll have to decide to do it or not.

>>32158761
>Do you think men can thrive in today's dating world, considering everyone's standards are going up for long-term partners?
Only the top guys can thrive. Some totally fail, some get some success.
>And do you think men are forgoing families entirely due to that?
I don't think it would be just due to that. The ones who want to have a family will have a family. I have bad genes, so I don't want to have kids.
I also observing women staying single for giving up on men.

>but I think the way forward is to balance all of that. Both working but also both maintaining the home and family
Agree.

>Is it really a desire to seem masculine that causes this, though?
Sometimes it's not really a conscious thing. It's related to proud as well. It's much more common seeing adult women learning to swim than adult men. It's humiliating for men. You see little kids already swimming and you, a grown-up man, can't do it? I feel like proudness is not an issue for women (is it?). They also get more support from everyone.

>I don't want anyone messing with my butthole either
*High-five*
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>>32157893
m
men have no purpose anymore. jobs are getting automated, and its basically impossible to find a wife unless you are extremely good looking. most of us are just trying to make it through the day with no plan for the future. I'm one of the lucky ones that has a job so I have a tiny amount of purpose, but since I have no hope of getting a family theres no reason to try
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>>32157692
Ladies, I have quite the foot fetish! Can you tell me what's currently the worst smelling pair of shoes you've got right now? :)
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Opinion on having sex on 18+ omegle?
We bought some eye masks but wondering how dumb it would be even with that?
Worse case someone records it and posts it somewhere but I'm not that worried about that.
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>>32159207
delts & biceps
>>32159039
no, a lot of women have low libido too especially as they get older. just don't date someone who has a high sex drive and expect to be compatible
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>>32157692
Ladies, What are your thoughts on the Brad Pitt rule? I find myself in a similar situation, and this is looming overhead.
(Also this was written in 2008, Doesn't have to be Brad Pitt, but the idea should work with current attractive guy)
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>>32159759
Fellow footfag, you give us bad reputation.
t. Footfag who likes clean feet.

>>32159812
Just record a video, post it on a porn site, and post the link here.
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>>32158775
>Setting people on track to accomplish those things isn't easy, but probably starts with a rigorous and flexible education system that prepares people more broadly for whatever subject they have aptitude in.
This is notable because studies have shown that women are far better auditory learners, so they learn better from lectures (i.e. most academia) than men do. Men meanwhile learn better from seeing and doing, which is why they perform better in the trades. In what ways could post-secondary education, where men struggle most, incorporate more kinesthetic learning?
>>32159039
>A question for girls, is a low libido a deal breaker?
No, I have a very low libido as well. Also, I love wizard toad.
>>32159267
>Only the top guys can thrive.
I disagree with this. Plenty of mid or even below-average guys are successful with women these days. But it's important to know your audience and how to sell yourself to them.
>It's humiliating for men. You see little kids already swimming and you, a grown-up man, can't do it?
This bothers me that competence in all matters should always be assumed for men. It works inversely because it's a type of learned helplessness by women and unfairly puts men under pressure when a situation arises. If a man let a woman change a flat tire, he'd never hear the end of it.
>>32159759
>Can you tell me what's currently the worst smelling pair of shoes you've got right now?
Gym shoes. Or my canvas shoes because I never wear socks in them.
>>32159859
>What are your thoughts on the Brad Pitt rule?
I wouldn't do it because Brad Pitt beat Angelina Jolie. But generally, it's a stupid notion. Of course you shouldn't chase someone, but if someone feels like they're worth the effort than you should try to continue to develop that relationship. Oftentimes it is a case of just not knowing the person well enough.
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What do I need to do to find a wife as an ugly guy? I have a lot to give but never get the chance. How can I signal to women that I would be a good husband even though my face is pretty messed up? I will get plastic surgeries as soon as I can afford them.
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>>32160081
I'm a man too, single mid 30s. What really should to do is focus on becoming stronger physically through exercise and focusing on building skillsets that are in demand so you can get a good job. That's what I've done and my life is going really well overall. It took years of suffering and struggling, but I now have a six figure income and am in great shape compared to most people. I'm still single because I find most women repulsive and have rejected the few that have shown interest, but at the same time the few women I've liked have rejected me. Life isn't fair or perfect, but I'm in a better position than I've ever been in. You should strive to get into a position like I'm instead of worrying about women, most of them (as in more than 99%) suck anyway.
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>>32160096
I work as a software engineer and I have been lifting for years. Thing is though, women still see me the exact same. I wish I could stop caring about women, but finding a wife is the only way I'll ever have my own family. The only thing keeping me going is the hope that I'll have my own kids one day.
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>>32160102
If you don't have a problem with tattoos, piercings, or baggage, and women being subpar, you probably will find a partner. How old are you?
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>>32160116
I'm 23. I have basically no standards as long as she is around my age and wants to have kids some day
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>>32160118
Kid you got time. If you have no standards after being a software engineer you'll regret it soon. Why the hell do you have no standards as a software engineer who lifts? You should reject lame women like I did (I work in IT too). Being alone forever and dying a virgin with independence and being able to do whatever you want whenever you want beats being with most modern western women.
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>>32160127
I have no women to reject, lol. The only thing I want out of life is to have my own family, and thats not happening unless I can find a woman who is fine with an ugly guy.
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>>32160118
Wouldn't you feel shitty knowing a girl is with you out of desperation instead of actually wanting to be with -you-? And how do you think such a relationship would affect those kids growing up? What would that teach them?

>>32160005
I like reading your posts. You seem to have a really solid grasp of things
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>>32160138
Well, good luck. The motivation of wanting love kept me pushing myself enough and going through hell to the point I made it big and now whether I'm recognized as high value or not to most women is irrelevant. As long as my tax dollars don't go towards anyone's birth control, healthcare, or abortions, I'm good.
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>What do I need to do to find a wife as an ugly guy?
Think of it like RPG stats. Your looks may be 3/10 but you can compensate for it by increasing your other stats. Improve what you can to the best of your ability and be proud knowing you did all you could to better yourself.
>How can I signal to women that I would be a good husband even though my face is pretty messed up?
Looks don't signal to a woman that you'd be a good husband either. It's them getting to know you and your positive traits that will signify whether you'd be a good father and husband.
> I will get plastic surgeries as soon as I can afford them.
It won't make you feel better about yourself. That comes from within. And if you don't love yourself, how can you expect a woman to love you?
>>32160102
>Thing is though, women still see me the exact same.
Because it's not the money or physique, it's the mentality. It bleeds into every aspect of your personality.
"He who says he can, and he who says he cannot, are both usually right."
>>32160118
>I have basically no standards as long as she is around my age and wants to have kids some day
That's a bad idea. Be selective. It will be better in the long run, even if it takes longer to bear fruit.
>>32160141
>instead of actually wanting to be with -you-?
Exactly. Just because you're married and have kids, it doesn't mean you have a family.
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>>32160081
>What do I need to do to find a wife as an ugly guy?
probably keep lowering your standards, women are much pickier these days as they don't typically need men to support them anymore
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>>32160383
>It won't make you feel better about yourself
Why do normal people say that? You don't know how it is living with a big flaw on your face.
My corrective surgeries made me feel better about myself.
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>>32158761
>Do you think men can thrive in today's dating world, considering everyone's standards are going up for long-term partners?
I think the current generation of men are in a growing pains situation with women having so much more independence that it's almost like evolution, and only the men who can make the cut get to reproduce and the rest wither. This also applies to the "I don't need a man" or girls who refuse to go for guys their status and end up alone.
>And do you think men are forgoing families entirely due to that?
I think men are forgoing society, after all what's the point of it all if you're not getting pussy or having a family.
>I think the way forward is to balance all of that. Both working but also both maintaining the home and family.
I think from the boomer age to the zoomer age there is such a massive difference in ideology in such a rapid amount of time that the whole "I work all day to avoid the kids and wife I hate and fuck my secretary" boomer to the zoomer who wants to work at home and help out with the kids needs to be mended.
It doesn't help that at least in America that money is all that matters and work life balance is nonexistent for people grinding to afford things like a house.
There are people with careers who have to uber as a second job because they can't afford living expenses with their spouses income in consideration, having kids and taking care of them is much much more and until income and living expenses are overhauled it will not get better.
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>>32160102
>I have been lifting for years
Post body
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>>32158737
>Doesn't this seem like putting the cart before the horse?
It depends on how you look at the issue but to generalize the prevolence of male suicide to one single cause would be inmature at best.
I appreciate the response tho.
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>>32157692
Why do people not immediately delete their ex from their phone? Delete every form of communication and move on.
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>>32160864
As long as they weren't a nutjob or an asshole it's an easy way to get sex.
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M questions for F

What do you wish boys would say to you more often?

What is a topic you wish you could talk about more about with guys (but can't due to insecurities, disinterest or social convention ?)

What is a clothing or accessory that you think is underrated or underutilized by men?
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>>32157893
>M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
I'll give you a trifecta.
1. Lack of purpose; most of us feel utterly lost.
2. The trivialization of masculine virtue/the idea that all expressions of masculinity are inherently toxic.
3. Complete indifference from society towards issues which effect men, on the rare instance they're acknowledged/validated at all.

>>32157919
I feel like, at least in the states, we have the opposite problem, where most men are afraid/ashamed of their masculinity, where the typical white male looks and acts like gif related,
>glasses
>beard
>receding hairline
>DYEL/skinnyfat/obese
>literal manchild
>has no identity beyond being cucked and a need to CONSOOM
there's definitely aspects of what you're talking about, but I feel like most men either accept being socially castrated, or become apex predators. Then of course, you have the ones that snap and kill themselves and/or other people. None of these scenarios are ideal.

>>32158261
Having a phone is extremely unusual, and I can't imagine how you properly function without one. Women likely draw similar conclusions. Also, they tend to want access to guys they're into.

...Why don't you have a phone?

>>32157821
Thigh gaps, wide hips, perky ABCs, tattoos that are either non-existent or extremely well done.

>>32158754
>Once I started making an active effort to care less about being masculine, it felt like I turned on a cheat code
Based. I'd say this applies to consciously deciding to not give a fuck what random people think you "should" be in general.

>>32158761
>To me, it's always seemed that boys are conditioned to not voice their problems
What's more, we're conditioned to think others wouldn't care if we did. The scary part? We're usually right.

That dude who got choked out on the subway is a great example of this; that whole incident was a perfect storm of the ways society fails men.
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>>32161079
Not sure what people you connext with. When a relationship ends that's usually the end of it period. Even if it ended on relatively good terms those pains and feelings don't really go away when you keep them around.
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>>32158584
This. We're supposed to be different and complementary, not identical and adversarial.

>>32158665
See, I think it's fine if a woman wants to pursue a career. There are women are there who have zero maternal instinct, whose passions lie in their careers or academia, or what have you, and it's awesome we live in a world where they can pursue those passions. What is decidedly not awesome is how women are conditioned to think that's what they *should* want, and that being a good wife, a good mom, or even a good person is somehow beneath them. The problem is, what "should" be, and what is are by no means the same thing, and you see so many women in their early or mid 30s, or god forbid, older, who wake up one day and realize the life they live is a life they never wanted, and that it may be far too late, practically, biologically, or both, to do anything about it.

I think everyone, relatively early in life, should spend some time abroad, disconnected from it all to figure out what truly matters to them, so they can act on it. Ya know, have a hand on the wheel, and not wake up one day and say "how did I get here, and where did my life go?"

>>32159859
I'm a dude, but this is a solid fucking rule. The only amendments I'd make is that I wouldn't necessarily leave it to the girl to suggest an alternative time; it's a very good sign if she does, but women are conditioned to leave that to us, *and* if she gives you two excuses back to back, you can safely write her off as a prospect. Also, depending on the girl (for example, if you know that she struggles with social anxiety she could be interested, but just finds the idea of leaving the house overwhelming) a second pass may be acceptable.

In general, though, I stand by the rule; people make time for the things and people who matter to them. If she can't find the time, you don't matter.
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I’ve never had a conversation with a woman that wasn’t a family member or worked related, how bad is it?
I’m 24
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>>32157692
Dear femlings, what is your fave male power fantasy video game, or game in general? What do girls do in the playground as kids? sometimes we’d make up stories or just play tag. Was curious if different. I assume the kids now just on their phone at lunch. The horror.
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>>32160005
>Brad Pitt beat Angelina Jolie
Only according to accusations made by Angelina, who is a legitimate crazy person, who has cause to besmirch his reputation. I feel confident in saying Aldo Raine ain't do that shit. Earlier, you asked about problems facing men today, and a really big one is this trend, this idea of BELIEVE WOMEN... just because they're women. That shit is dangerous. If you need a recent example of why that shit is dangerous, see: Matt Araiza.

>if someone feels like they're worth the effort you should try to continue to develop that relationship
I find it's more productive to pursue other relationships, sending the message that you have options and that your time, and attention, is valuable. This is how one can get women to do the chasing.

>>32160383
>Think of it like RPG stats
So roll wizard and max intelligence? I mean you're not wrong.
>Looks don't signal to a woman that you'd be a good husband
Eh... they kind of do though, "your looks are your personality." There are numerous studies that prove attractive people just plain do better in life, and that the same behavior can be interpreted in negative or positive ways, depending on how attractive the person is that's performing the behavior. Ex: Ugly men are arrogant, attractive men are confident.

HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT...
>"He who says he can, and he who says he cannot, are both usually right"
There are few things more true than this, and the idea that just because one was born further from the summit is justification to not bother climbing the mountain is pure cope.

>>32161079
This, which is why if someone keeps an ex around I limit things to being strictly casual. Aside from obvious concerns, being able to let things (and people) go is important to me.
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Ladies:
1.) Fisting. Ever tried it? Would you?
2.) Would you let your husband piss in your mouth in the shower?
3.) Would you let your husband brainwash you into getting big fake bimbo tits?
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How do women cope with the fact that the vagina is far less aesthetically appealing than the penis?

Nobody is turned on by looking at a vagina but it’s scientifically proven that even heterosexual men are aroused when they see an erect penis.

Seriously, how do you come back from something like that?
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>>32162287
The heck are you talking about, anon? I find vaginas extremely aesthetically pleasing, moreso than boobs or butts or any of the other typical "erotic" body parts. And the only penis I like is mine.
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>>32162293
Foid cope
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>>32162301
Sorry, I don't speak buzzwords.
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>>32162287
There are alluring vulvas. But you are correct that only men who can access their suppressed animalistic urges can be aroused by the mere sight of an ugly vulva. Aesthetics are a modern concept. In caveman times any woman you could dick was worth dicking. Any vulva would be exciting because that meant the possibility of reproduction, your whole entire purpose in life. Now that we have evolved and created the concept of aesthetics, beauty, allure, radiance, mystique, etc, then all of a sudden a really ugly vulva is just kind of repulsive. And truly aesthetic vulvas are few and far between. Whereas a truly ugly penis is actually a rarity, and usually due to botched circumcision or something of that nature.

Ladies:
If your lover/husband wanted to pay for you to get a vaginoplasty and/or complete labia minora removal would you do it?
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>>32162287
M, I don’t think labia are meant to be pretty, and quite honestly the uglier ones turn me on more, it feels intimate that she’d trust you enough to show it off, and demonstrates self confidence which I like. Most of them have the aesthetics of dough balls anyway, if they were on show they’d likely evolve to be prettier.
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>>32157893
>biggest problem facing men today
I'm not sure honestly. I feel like my own experiences aren't reflective of men as a whole. I look at the parts of my life where I feel fulfilled and I don't understand why other men fail to achieve the same. Why do you need someone else to give you purpose in life? Why can't you make your own meaning? Why don't you become someone you can be proud of? Is it weakness? Is it a lack of self awareness? Maybe that's it but then that's not really specific to men. Humanity as a whole is severely lacking in self awareness, in the ability to reflect critically upon oneself. I really don't get it, why was I able to figure it out?
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>>32162227
1. An exbf tried it once but it didn't work. It's not something I want to try again.
2. Yes, if he were my husband.
3. No, I don't like bimbofication. Sometimes I wish my breasts were bigger and think about getting implants, but I wouldn't want them to look fake or be too big.

>>32162287
Lots of women have beautiful or cute vaginas. Mine is ugly, it's just something I have to accept. I do Kegels regularly and I'm meticulous about keeping myself clean and groomed. I don't expect anyone to love how I look down there, I just hope it's not not a complete turn-off.

>>32162310
I've thought about it a lot, but I'm too afraid of losing sensitivity. I'm fairly sure it wouldn't make me look good anyways, just less ugly. It would honestly be hurtful if my future husband wanted me to get surgery. I'd hope he could accept me, even with all my flaws.
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>>32161756
>What do you wish boys would say to you more often?
do you mean from a relationship perspective or in general?
>What is a topic you wish you could talk about more about with guys (but can't due to insecurities, disinterest or social convention?)
my job, i feel like no one gives a shit but it's hard not to talk about something i spend 40+ hours doing lol
>What is a clothing or accessory that you think is underrated or underutilized by men?
i'm not sure if it counts as an accessory, but i think nose rings (not septums, the ones on your nostril) make a guy 10x hotter

>>32162186
>What do girls do in the playground as kids?
used to jump rope, play red light green light, tell "scary" stories, and we had a lot of made up scenarios based on what was popular at the time (e.g. would pretend to be pokemon/pokemon trainers or neopets)

>>32162227
no to everything, though i'd consider fake tits if they WEREN'T big and fake looking

>>32162287
>How do women cope with the fact that the vagina is far less aesthetically appealing than the penis?
i think vaginas just have a lot more deviance in their appearance than cocks, there are definitely some pretty pussies out there

>Nobody is turned on by looking at a vagina but it’s scientifically proven that even heterosexual men are aroused when they see an erect penis.
that's because everyone's a little gay

>Seriously, how do you come back from something like that?
by not caring

>>32162310
>If your lover/husband wanted to pay for you to get a vaginoplasty and/or complete labia minora removal would you do it?
if i had roast beef curtains and it was a legitimate insecurity that i couldn't cope with then yes
in my current state, not at all
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>>32157821
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
Male.
A nice arse, for sure; although my benchmark for attraction is generally "no fat chicks". I also like quite prominent cheekbones.
>Are there certain attributes you prefer(hair color, eye color, etc…)?
I tend to like a lot of different things, most of them quite antithetical.

>>32157893
Most certainly the loneliness epidemic, and the constant attempt to make genuine male bonding seem homoerotic at every turn.

>>32159812
Can't take the highground, as I'm secretly still into webcam stuff.

>>32159859
Not a woman, but in my experience, it's definitely a decent measure of how interested she is.
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>>32157821
Femoid answering moid questions
>physical features I like
Blond or light brown hair, light eyes, big smile, someone who looks very "boyish". Not feminine but masculine in a youthful way. My height is 165 cms and my ideal boyfriend would be around 175-180 cms
>>32157893
For the average woman it is probably the idea of "having it all" because you cannot combine family and career if your man won't do anything around the house or take care of his children
>>32159859
You might be overthinking or she is trying to let you down easy
>>32161756
I like it when men wear boots in Winter. Sneakers when it is snowing looks ridiculous. I think some men can also pull of jewelry quite well
>>32162174
Join or a club or something anon
>>32162186
I was too autistic to play with other kids often but they played house or they imagined themselves as Totally Spies characters or Winx Club characters. Sometimes we would also play with the whole class
>>32162227
Kys coomer
>>32162287
Anon you can be gay without being misogynistic
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>>32162478
>I'm too afraid of losing sensitivity

Do the labia minora really have that many nerve endings? Male and female junk form from the same things. Clits are tiny dicks. Clit hoods are foreskins. Ovaries are testicles. And labia minora are scrotums. And the scrotum has basically zero erotic sensitivity at all. I've seen photos of vulvas after complete labia minora removal and they looked fantastic. I don't really understand the point of the labia minora. They seem unnecessary.
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I know some of you americans are so used to the idea of cutting off parts of people's genitalia due to circumcision,but it is not fucking good or healthy even if your society has normalized it. Don't push it on women because it's more "aesthetic" or some bullshit, and stop doing it to your male kids while you're at it.
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>>32162005
Think I’m going to steal that trifecta. You did a good job explaining it in a succinct and readable way.
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In 2011, at the suggestion of mutual aqcuantinces, I met a girl who was waiting for the one. After meeting me, she seemed to really like me, and being around her was fun. But then came the time, after several dates, when we had to make out. She was physically one of the most unremarkable women I've ever seen. She wasn't obese or anything, but had 0 curves or lines, basically had the body of a post menopausal woman in her 20s, and that sucked. She asked, after making out, if we were a couple. I told her we were not because I was moving soon (not a lie, but if I liked her I wouldn't have cared and done anything to stay with her) and we broke up. Women today are even worse, I'm in my mid 30s and have a six figure income and approaching women is pretty much a no. I don't know how to fix this.
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>>32162622
>approaching women is pretty much a no
Wrong.
>I don't know how to fix this.
Get rid of the above mentality.
>long story about the one that got away
Honestly anon, if she'd gotten you hot you would've stuck with her despite her body. You're just selectively remembering shit in order to bully yourself now.
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>>32162508
Mine are pretty sensitive, enough that it would be a real loss to me if labioplasty did result in reduced sensitivity. I don't think the after photos I've seen look fantastic, but maybe I haven't seen enough. They're definitely unnecessary, I don't know why some of us end up with them although sometimes they can look really cute.

>>32162522
I do agree it's wrong to trim off any part of a child's body, without legitimate medical reason. Adults can make that choice for themselves though.

>>32162622
Is that you don't find women attractive, or you don't want to initiate?
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>>32162658
>Approaching women is a no Wrong.
I've tried at church. I literally starting talking to one girl I kind of like, turns out she wasn't into me and the entire young congregation went from integrated men and women to women went to the opposite side of the room from where I was and whenI tried to talk to them they'd quickly migrate to the other side of the room. I never said anything bad or perverted, just tried to get to know maybe one of them and I guess she felt uncomfortable. Clearly there is something wrong, at least among some women, approaching one of them.

>If she'd been hot you'd have stuck with her.

Duh, but she wasn't attractive so I lost interest.
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Hey women, are you aware that AI will replace you in every job you can possibly do online and also that we're taking all of your rights away in the future? Just wanted to let you know. Enjoy being IRL whores and maids for money because its the only work you'll be able to do. Men are not going to bother marrying your asses either, its a bad deal for us. You've been exploiting men's sympathy for hundreds of years while you sit on your assses living easy lives, enjoy your slavery, or else.
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>>32162665
Read this>>32162673
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>>32162673
Okay. You went to church and struck out with a girl and everyone thinks you're just pushing to get married. That's pretty fucking normal bro. You weren't supposed to approach it that way. You were supposed just to socialize and let the chips fall where they may.
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>>32162287
How do you cope with being gay?
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>>32162699
The chips fell and I wasn't satisfied. I want the woman I fell for in 2005 (as she was then, not as she is now, she sucks now but set a standard then that no woman has been able to even come close to).

Seriously I love /soc/ and that I can vent this here. Fuck western women, you all suck.
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>>32162665
Sure, adults can make that choice, but pushing your partner to do it because you think it might look nicer is just complete absurdist clown behavior. It's the equivalent of a woman wanting a guy to get circumcised because it's more "aesthetic" to have had part of yourself cut off. That kind of thinking just drives me up a fucking wall.
Then again, I don't really understand the issue people seem to have with womens genitals itt in the first place. Yeah, labial folds exist, they're normal. When I see them attached to a woman I like, I don't spend a single second thinking about if they look too flabby or some nonsense, I'm too busy being aroused by the fact that said woman I like just got naked for me.
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femanons how do i meet girls as a single dad
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>>32162678
I'm not sure you have a very good grasp of history, anon. It's hard to say what the future will bring with AI coming down the tubes, but it will affect men and women both.

>>32162673
>>32162684
Are there any volunteer opportunities or other activities you can do through your church? That might offer a more organic way to get to know some girls over time.

>>32162764
Oh, I agree it's wrong to try and push a partner into doing it. Even though I don't like the way mine look, it's so deeply personal. I'd feel rejected if my bf or husband seriously wanted me to get surgery.

>>32162814
I imagine the same you'd meet girls if you weren't a single dad. Through family and friends, work, social events, volunteering, dating apps.
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Do you girls do the same with your discord friends?
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>>32162352
>and quite honestly the uglier ones turn me on more, it feels intimate that she’d trust you enough to show it off
lol

>>32162478
>2. Yes, if he were my husband
Eww...

>>32162497
>but i think nose rings (not septums, the ones on your nostril)
Disgusting.

>>32162622
>I don't know how to fix this.
Why would you?
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>>32163304
NAG but I regularly have this happen with girls I pick up online. When they ask, I just tell them my first name and immediately ask for theirs. Like:
>Girl: I have a weird question. What's your real name?
>Me [immediately]: Oh, I'm Anon! How about you?
>Her: I like that name. I'm Femanon. I hate it.
>Me: Why? I think it sounds pretty.
In one case I even (eventually) got her last name by "carelessly" dropping mine.
>Me: [telling a story about something in college] And then he was like, "Mr. Anon, did you read the assignment?" [continues telling story]
>Her [doesn't say anything about the name drop]
>[a week passes]
>Me: [talking about family from the old country] Their last name is Anonkowitz.
>Her: Oh I know that name, people with that name are usually from the Anon prefecture of A city.
>Me: Wow I never knew that. Can you tell that kind of thing from other last names?
>Her: Oh like mine, Anonski, they're usually from the Femanon prefecture of Z city.

The trick is to be confident and not be a panicky pussy about getting your name dropped, and also to just do it naturally. Just don't be a degenerate and behave with her as though you know each other IRL and there's no real risk associated with talking to each other.

Alternatively you can be like, "Please don't take this personally but it's my policy not to give out my IRL name so soon. I got burned doing that before. When we know each other better no problem. You aren't overstepping any bounds by asking, btw; I'm just extra cautious now."

Either way it's fine. And yeah if some random girl disappears after a convo like that she's pretty weird and it probably wasn't going to happen anyway.
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>>32163358
i told her my real name but she didn't want do the same and we keep talking.
these last weeks she has feel a bit depressed so i sent her a gift card in oder she can buy a plushie in amazon
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>>32163376
Honestly that's pretty bullshit. I don't think I'd keep fucking around with her after playing games like that.
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>>32163376
>sending a stranger money
Are we watching this man get catfished/exploited in real time?
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>>32162005
i always feel like i am being punished for trying to be nice to guys like the pic. i’ll never be comfortable getting to know anyone like him ever again, because when it goes to shit, it ends up with me feeling like a loser for even trying.
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Girls. Do any of you like guys with smooth faces and no facial hair? Most of my hair went into my head that I like to keep long. I see lots of couples around my age where the guy almost always has facial hair. I even dated someone last year who likes hairy guys so what gives?
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>>32163525
Most guys have facial hair because they're chinlets.
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>>32163384
>>32163434
She didn't request anything. It was something i purpose to her because we shared dense stuff
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>>32162005
Receding hair/balding is a very masculine trait my dude, a natural part of being a man that most men will face at some point in their life, It's a symbol of adulthood and maturity. fear and avoidance of it in modern society is a symptom of the delayed adolesence problem as well as modern obsession with peacocking, and ties into point #2 of your listed problems facing men in the modern era.
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>>32163571
Wait what? Your OP in the other thread said SHE asked YOU for your name.
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>>32163525
I prefer beards than clean shaven x
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>>32163376
>so i sent her a gift card in oder she can buy a plushie in amazon
You're too dumb for this world, anon.

>>32164057
Really? I always hear girls complaining about beards, even when their bfs have beards.
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>>32157692
M or F
please be subjective to your own likings and experiences - do you generally prefer partners with larger cocks?
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>>32157692
Both genders,
how many kids do you want, if any?
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>>32164320
Zero.
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Opinion on having sex/fooling around on 18+ omegle?
We bought some eye masks and would use them or mouth masks but wondering how dumb it would be even with that?
Worse case someone records it and posts it somewhere but I'm not that worried about that.
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>>32162582
You're welcome, that's kind of my thing.
>>32163459
How do you mean?
>>32163665
Literally none of the men in my family are bald, and women almost universally prefer a full head of hair over a bald one. That said, plenty of men pull off the bald look, and plenty more men could if they'd accept their baldness, but it feels like for every guy who owns it and moves on there's 10 who try dumb shit like hatfishing or letting their hairline's last stand play out, or God forbid... the dreaded combover.

>>32163567
Correct. Facial hair is almost always hiding a weak chin, or too many chins.

>>32164182
I forget where I heard or read it, but I believe there was a study showing there's a correlation between how common beards are and how favorable women tend to react to them; the less men who have beards, the better. It makes sense to me. And MUH STATISTICS aside, I think it's fair to say the reason so many women are experiencing "beard fatigue" is because beards have become part of the default onions manbaby look.

Besides, the real cheat code is shaped stubble.

>>32164320
3 to 4.

>>32163571
There's a very good chance you're not the only guy sending her stuff.
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>>32164034
>>32164706
I meant she didn't request for any gift or money. It was something i wanted give to her. She has never said stuff like "oh babe im struggling with paying the bills, i need money :3"
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>>32163525
Absolutely, I tend to prefer when men are clean shaven.

>>32164201
Female. No, penis size is pretty much the last thing I think about when it comes to desirable traits in a partner. Sexual compatibility is far more important.

>>32164320
I would love to have 3-5

>>32164601
I'm not into exhibitionism so I can't really comment, but isn't it possible there could be minors on there? If you really feel the need to show off make sure it's on a platform where it's really adults only who are expecting to see that kind of thing.
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>>32164320
Man
I had someone who I loved really dearly, and I wouldn't have minded to have seven with her.
BUT, looking back at it, and given that sometimes things don't go as expected, I think 3 or 4 might just be enough
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>>32164320
As many as I can support, really. But I'd like at least two.
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>>32163220
>Are there any volunteer opportunities

Only older or unattractive women volunteer I've found, the few that are attractive that volunteer are already in relationships. I find my time volunteering is best spent helping people one on one so they improve themselves and not in a group, I've helped a lot of people that way and I really am glad I'm able to make a difference, but no attractive young woman seems to want me to help them one on one.
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>>32162814
Not a girl but what happened with your wife? I dont want think that she passed away, if that's the case im sorry.
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>>32164182
>You're too dumb for this world, anon.
See >>32165152
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>>32165325
There is an adult section where you have to confirm you're 18+.
Maybe an adult chat room where I can share my cam?
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>>32163220
i work in trades lol theres no women.
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>>32164320
M, none. It's too much work and I have bad genes.

>>32165325
>Absolutely, I tend to prefer when men are clean shaven
What about laser hair removal? Is that too much?
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>>32160864
>Why do people not immediately delete their ex from their phone?
Because some people are adults and can end things amicably.
>>32161756
>What do you wish boys would say to you more often?
"You're 100% right and always are and could probably do a sick kickflip without even really trying."
>What is a topic you wish you could talk about more about with guys (but can't due to insecurities, disinterest or social convention ?)
Sex and women's issues.
>What is a clothing or accessory that you think is underrated or underutilized by men?
Jewelry. Unfortunately men have the most garish and gaudy taste imaginable and think cuban chains and skull rings look good/cool.
>>32162186
>what is your fave male power fantasy video game, or game in general?
Probably either Force Unleashed or Doom Eternal (soundtrack is kino). I also like homebrews and fan expansions to DnD that let me be OP af.
>What do girls do in the playground as kids?
Play pretend and gossip. I was too cool and autistic for that, so I'd sit in the library to read or look at the Pokemon cards I stole from Walmart. They had this cool tunnel/tent thing in the big fake tree in the center of the library that I basically had to myself.
>>32162215
>Only according to accusations made by Angelina
And the FBI, who investigated it.
>This is how one can get women to do the chasing.
Don't chase or be chased. That's immature behavior for immature people.
>>32162227
I thought this said fishing and I got so excited to answer.
>>32162287
>How do women cope with the fact that the vagina is far less aesthetically appealing than the penis?
I'd argue this anecdotally because 95% of the penises I've seen have been ugly, while at least half of the vaginas I've seen look appealing.
>scientifically proven
Pic related
>>32162522
It's the women that are perpetuating it.
>>32162622
>and have a six figure income and approaching women is pretty much a no
Because you think your biggest selling point is your bank account.
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>>32162678
AI can't do my job
>>32162703
GOT'EEM
>>32162814
>femanons how do i meet girls as a single dad
Look for single moms. They're incredibly common these days. Though this depends if you're a bum ass single dad or the primary caretaker single dad.
>>32163304
>Do you girls do the same with your discord friends?
I do, but that's due to trust issues and fear of consequences for the things I say on the internet when I think I'm anonymous. Also, I'm ashamed to know where that picture is from.
>>32163525
As long as they have a good jawline.
>>32164201
>do you generally prefer partners with larger cocks?
I literally do not give a shit
>>32164320
>how many kids do you want, if any?
2-3 Kids are like horses. They're expensive and you can't have just one.
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>>32165645
>It's the women that are perpetuating it.
Really? What the fuck, women.
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>>32165325
>Sexual compatibility is far more important
What is sexual compatibility?
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>>32164201
F, and I'd say no. It can be nice, but it can also be frustrating.
>>32164320
I've thought about before and I still feel like I'd want two ideally, three max.
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>>32164320
If we had the means and capability to start now I'd be down for 4 but by the time we finish school and get settled, maybe 3?
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>>32165664
>I do, but that's due to trust issues and fear of consequences for the things I say on the internet when I think I'm anonymous.

What advice you give me with this discord girl? Here an update:

>>32163376
>>32165152
Do you think im a simp/loser for give her this gift?

>Also, I'm ashamed to know where that picture is from.
I have all the episodes but i never find the scene when this guy kick the shit out of her.
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Women, do you have a older brother?
If not, do you wish you did?
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>>32165990
OH and uh for those who do, do you like your older brother?
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>>32165664
im the primary caregiver of my children. its just so hard to go out and meet anyone cause they are so young. just wondering if there is some specific thing i need to do.
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>>32165373
she couldnt handle life as a mom and abandoned us she has mental issues though. im not even mad at her i more feel sorry for her and wish for her to get better.
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>>32166000
>>32165999
checked
Also is she paying child support?
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>>32165875
>Do you think im a simp/loser for give her this gift?
No, but relationships are about give and take, not just giving or taking. If you choose to do so while fully aware of the consequences, that's on you, but you're ultimately playing yourself by investing more into a relationship than the other party is willing to reciprocate
>I have all the episodes but i never find the scene when this guy kick the shit out of her.
wdym?
>>32165990
>Women, do you have a older brother?
I have two and I wish I didn't have any.
>>32165999
Frequent places with single moms. Parks, PTA meetings, dating apps, your kids' friend's birthday party. I'm not going to lie to you, your options are limited since your kids live with you. So if you're looking for a woman to play step-mom, you're going to have to play step-dad if you're wanting anyone halfway decent.
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>>32166006
nah lol
>>32166048
im okay with that. I just am in that phase where i feel like nobody will ever love me again. I love kids my boys are crazy for dada haha. i wouldnt mind a single mom, as long as that she isnt the reason she is single i cant handle more crazy. I am also open to having more children if a future wife wanted kids of her own.
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>>32166048
>No, but relationships are about give and take, not just giving or taking. If you choose to do so while fully aware of the consequences, that's on you, but you're ultimately playing yourself by investing more into a relationship than the other party is willing to reciprocate

Thank you for you advice. So tell me, after read the thread i posted(https://archived.moe/adv/thread/28888158/), tell me, do you think she is interested on me or im just seeing things that doesn't exist. Why she wanted feel closer and after that say that im just a random guy to her?

Any advice? What you girls like?

>wdym?
pic related.
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>>32157692
I’m about to hit the gym. It’s arm day
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>>32167190
Please do not hit the gym, violence is wrong.
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>>32167202
Ok hippie
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>>32163358
Online dating seems so gay.
Do you even have a chance at anything better than a male manipulator or a BPD chick?
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>>32167190
Only faggot zoomers have an arm day.
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>>32167348
Simply do not care nor did ask
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>>32167347
As someone who fucks with it occasionally, it's mostly a cope for being too much of a pussy to go for women IRL.
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>>32165645
>you think your biggest selling point is your bank account

I don't lead with that. Honestly I used to do a lot, and women didn't care. Everything from animation, scuba diving, volunteering, being part of a church group (this was 15ish years ago), I had the problems then, they're even worse now. I learned that having hobbies and doing interesting things means nothing to most attractive women, though neither does earning six figures. I'm better off where I'm at.
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>>32165990
I have two older brothers.

>>32165996
I like them both but I tell my oldest brother’s Top Gun story at every opportunity. In high school, my brother’s girlfriend at the time’s parents had a house with a big basement and he’d go over there and they’d get up to things down there. Her parents didn’t know about that and liked him, and he had dated her for a long time and was over there a lot, so basically they let him come and go as he pleased. One night they were down there and the movie Top Gun was on TV while she was going down on him. Her older brother started walking down to the basement for something, and they heard him on the stairs, which was another reason they went down there for that. They were both completely naked and rather than try to get dressed, she panicked, grabbed her clothes, and ran into a closet to hide, leaving him sitting there completely naked and watching Top Gun. Her older brother walked into the basement and saw my brother sitting there completely naked, with a glistening hard on, as the shirtless jean shorts volleyball scene played. Her brother gave him a very weird look, turned without a word, and walked out of the basement.
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>>32157821
Male
I love women's legs so much.
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>>32164320
Male.
2 at a minimum, ideally 3-4.
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>>32165645
>some people are adults and can end things amicably
I can end things amicably, emphasis on *end* things. I just struggle to think of a scenario where a relationship implodes, yet a friendship makes sense.
>"You're 100% right and always are
This isn't cute or endearing, just an FYI on behalf of literally every man, ever. Same goes for just assuming we're ok with you eating off our plate or using our lap as a footrest.
>and could probably do a sick kickflip without even really trying."
You totally could. Like a day or two of genuine practice, tops. You should believe in yourself, as I believe in you.
>Sex and women's issues
If we seem disinterested it's only because your issues aren't exactly hurting for attention, or real estate in the public consciousness.
>men have the most garish and gaudy taste imaginable
When you're right, you're right. Jewelry is only the tip of the iceberg, tattoos, how to dress, how to choose and wear a scent. The amount of men who have never seen a tailor legitimately baffles me.
>And the FBI, who investigated it
Really? Source? I did a quick perusal and all I saw from the investigation was that they determined he *didn't* harm his kids. This doesn't mean I necessarily believe it (I have precious little faith in or reverence for, government agencies) but I respect you nonetheless for having a higher burden of proof than an accusation in and of itself.
>Don't chase
That's why I suggest against the "put effort in" the invitation is the effort, it needs to be reciprocated or ya move on, is all I'm saying.
>I got so excited to answer
Fuck it, answer; I caught enough mackerel (Spaniards) this morning to eat for a week.
>Pic related
I'll take "villains" who did nothing wrong, for $800.

>>32167658
What, exactly, are you looking for in a woman? I can probably tell you where to find her.
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>>32157692
What language do you want to learn?

M, I’d love to learn German
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>>32168466
None really. Japanese would be cool in theory, but I've heard a pain to learn.
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>>32168466
I'd love to learn a bunch of different languages. Spanish, Italian, German, Russian, Japanese, etc.
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>>32168466
Svenksa(Swedish) just to feel closer to a girl that needs a lot love.
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What to make of this with my friends gf?

Basically a group of like 6 of us are out of town. We were walking somewhere and my friends wanted me to lead. Then for some reason the gf came and walked with me, even trying to speed the two of us to put distance between us and the others. (She claimed it was to hopefully speed them up, but after they just kinda stayed lagging she continued.)

Then we all got food and what not and as we were leaving I stood up and she just kinda stood weirdly close to me. Plus the one time she was staring towards me (though thos could have been random)

On the walk back she did the exact same thing with us outpacing the rest. Plus she laughed at a horribly dumb joke
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>>32168647
I probably wouldn't make anything of it yet. That's barely enough to suggest she liked you even if she wasn't dating someone else.
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>>32165990
No. And no, I'm very happy that I have a younger brother and wouldn't want it any other way. Even if he isn't happy about it.
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>>32168466
M
German
>YJK
Italian
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>>32164320
F. One son, and as many daughters as it takes before I get that one son.
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>>32168974
>as many daughters as it takes
Even if you end up being an Octomom?
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>>32166247
>pic related.
Yes, but you said you can never find it. I don't know what you mean by that.
>>32167202
This. Turn the other cheek and let the gym hit you.
>>32167347
Yes, you can get a fat ugly 40 year old man who thinks women don't want him because he's under 6' or a Histrionic girl.
>>32167348
>Only faggot zoomers have an arm day.
This. Upper body day should hit your whole upper body, not just your biceps.
>>32168056
>Her brother gave him a very weird look, turned without a word, and walked out of the basement.
Why didn't the brother join in? Is he gay?
>>32168434
>I just struggle to think of a scenario where a relationship implodes
There are obligations within a relationship that aren't there in a friendship. And a relationship doesn't have to implode for you to end it. Sometimes you realize you're not right for each other or there are serious obstacles that make it unsustainable.
>If we seem disinterested it's only because your issues aren't exactly hurting for attention
I agree about a lot of it being overblown but there are things we are socially programmed to deem as acceptable from a young age that men may understand but can never fully comprehend. The same goes for women with men. I understand that men are often seen as predatory but I don't know the feeling of being seen with a child and assumed to be a monster.
>Really? Source?
There were pictures in the report of wounds she sustained during the plane ride and the report said he was said one of his kids looked like a school shooter, poured a beer on Angelina while she was sleeping, and alleged that he choked one of the children and struck another one. That his kids want nothing to do with him is very telling.
>>32168466
I've been learning German for the past year because I'm going there next month. I'd like to learn Japanese. It's been a dream of mine to go there but I want to fully experience it too, not like a tourist.
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>>32168466
I learned some Japanese before going there on a trip. I'm going to be going on a trip to Tahiti with my girl next month so I should learn some French before then. In terms of actual use in my life, I should learn Spanish

>>32165722
Similar tastes in what you like in sex, similar libido, actually finding each other attractive in the bedroom

>>32164201
I prefer partners who do not have cocks nor have they ever had any cocks

>>32157821
I prefer brunettes, lighter complexion, I like full, natural lips. As far as body goes, as long as they aren't stick skinny or super fat I could potentially find them attractive depending on their personality/flirtiness. At a baseline though I like bigger tits and ass

>>32162287
You might just be gay dude. I've never liked the look of a dick but before I became sexually active I wasn't particularly turned on by the sight of a vagina. Now though it's different, I've probably just come to associate vaginas with sex so they are arousing to me. Honestly as long as it's not extreme in some way, all vaginas kinda look the same to me but I've only really seen one vagina in person
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>>32157821

M

I love women with well-developed legs, especially calves and thick thighs.

>>32157893

Absence of philosophy/meaningful rolemodels.
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State gender, what are your favorite sexual positions and why?
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>>32169677
M
Big fan of cowgirl, or similar positions where she's on top. Aside from providing a great view, it gives a lot of control to the girl, which would ease my worries about hurting her.
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>>32169677
M, it depends on our mood. Prone bone is great, I think it's easier for both of us to cum like that and it makes her feel small and makes me feel more dominant. It's easy in this position for me to bite her ear or neck too. Doggy is great because I have a lot of control and can use the full length of my dick, I can slap her ass, pull her hair, put a leash on her. I also like grabbing both of her wrists and fucking her from behind like that so she's fully depending on me to keep her from falling over. Missionary is good because it's easy to kiss, it's intimate, overall it's the most lovey dovey one in my mind. Cowgirl is great because I can suck on her tits, I can put my hand around her neck, I can grab her ass. I think it's becoming more of a habit for us to swap between positions during sex too. Idk what it's called but sometimes it'll be more like missionary but I'll put her legs against my chest and kind of fold her over and fuck her like that. Again, good for using the full length of my dick and being dominant but that one is hard on her physically. We've done doggy the most if I had to pick one however but that's been changing lately
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>>32168466
>all these people wanting to learn my native language
M. I'd like to learn Russian.
>>32169473
>Disrespecting the late Richard Piano, patron saint of 8 hour arm workouts
for shame.
>>32169677
I had to look up the name, but anvil because it's intense/deep.
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>>32157821
F here. I come from an Asiatic/Middle Eastern family and I find blond hair and blue eyes exotic. I also really like freckles. Every boyfriend I've had and every hookup I've had has been with a really white guy. It kinda turns me on that I've never had a dick inside of me that didn't belong to a completely white guy.
It's not white supremacy, more of a string of events. My dad is a racist but he also hates the white minorities in our country. My first boyfriend was part of that minority, and they happen to be very white.
So, essentially, I like blond, blue eyed, freckled, pale, lanky, curly haired men with sparse body hair.
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>>32169677
F
I'm not too certain because my sexual history is limited to women, but it's easiest for me to orgasm while standing or lying on my stomach.
>>32169857
>Disrespecting the late Richard Piano, patron saint of 8 hour arm workouts
Richard Piana is one of the most juiced up ducks I have ever seen. The growth hormones killed him.
>>32170001
>It's not white supremacy
It's that the men from your culture/ethnicity set the bar so low. I get you 1000%.
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>>32170001
What country you from? What ethnicity was that first bf?
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>>32170024
It's actually kinda true, the men "setting the bar so low". But it's also that I moved across the country somewhere I'm now the minority. I've actually had great luck, specifically because they find me exotic. There was a Jehovah's witness guy at work who was hitting on me, clearly referencing that I look different to anyone he's familiar with. It's funny. I love seeing big families of gingers and blondes, like this guy, who had 12 siblings. Might be strange to say, but I really want more pure whites to fuck more, so that there's enough to keep them looking like that and also those who find exotic people attractive can do so freely.
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>>32170001
You're far from alone in this preference
>>32170024
He simply became too swole to control and transcended his physical form
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>>32170075
I'm Romanian. My boyfriend was Hungarian and his father worked for the Hungarian Party in Romania, which my father despised. Bit of a Romeo and Juliet type of situation. It turned me on to no end. It was kind of wrong, because ""our peoples"" had been massacring each other, and my father wouldn't stop ranting about how he'd round them up etc. etc. but his dick felt amazing. Similar situation with the rest of them, though it really became just a preference for the hair and eye colour.
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>>32169473
>Upper body day should hit your whole upper body, not just your biceps
GMI
I do bicep curls on a monthly basis and still have better biceps than 9/10 guys at my gym. Isolating arms is overcomplicating things and stealing from your training capacity without adding to your hypertrophy if you're a beginner.
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>>32170085
>He simply became too swole to control and transcended his physical form
His heart and liver did at least
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>>32170247
He has truly left humanity behind.
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>>32170236
Most gym goers aren’t consistent. I train arms because I like to but you can build them to a certain degree with compound back and chest movements too. My arms grow better when I use specific training on them
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>>32170336
That's the point. If you are consistent, you can't afford to train arms, unless you're on juice, or an advanced bodybuilder (so probably on juice).
Assuming you're training for strength too, anyway. Which you should.
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>>32168434
>What are you looking for in a woman?

Pleasant, fit, younger (20-25) no tattoos or piercings, no kids, at minimum a high school education, and low maintenance.

>I can tell you where to find her.

In my head. (at least someone I described who likes me back and is single).
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>>32169473
>Yes, but you said you can never find it. I don't know what you mean by that

Yeah, as i said i have all the episodes of that hentai, i have watched all and i never find this scene where nemu is beaten. Pic i posted was something i find on internet.

Anyway i have a lot questions about this discord girl. Could you please add to discord? Im a normal dude, i only want female advice. SARAH#4093
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>>32170437
It's probably from the game. There's a visual novel and it has multiple endings and apparently gets really dark.
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What's up ladies, I'm obsessive and women seem to like how intense I am but I'm not jealous even though i am a fiend for attention. Most of the women I meet and want it are usually some kind of unhinged. I'm intense but I don't want to live my life on a constant emotional roller coaster. How do I find a woman who's okay with me being obsessive but isn't trying to turn it into a toxic shithole? Do I just keep it to myself?
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>>32170739
I wonder why they didn't add that scene to the hentai(that was the only reason why i downloaded all the episodes, just to know the context of that beating).

Anyway i hope you can help me with this discord girl.
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>I have taken the pill for 2 years so my bf could go raw in my pussy
>he won't take the allergy so I can have a cat
Why are men like this?
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>>32168434
We eat off your plate and use your lap as a foot rest because we’re marking our territory, not because we think it’s cute.

>>32168466
I’ve tried to learn Arabic and failed three times. I learned Japanese and some others so I don’t know why Arabic is so impossible.

>>32168647
Nothing.

>>32169473
>Why didn't the brother join in? Is he gay?
I know this is 4chan, but you’re asking if he’s gay because he didn’t have sex with a man or mutual masturbation with another man to the Top Gun volleyball scene?

>>32169677
F, missionary, doggy, or whatever propped up against the wall with my legs wrapped around his waist is called. Bonus points for the last if he’s shorter than me.
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>>32164320
M, 0-3. I'm not sure that I want or should have kids, but if I do I'd prefer for them to grow up with one or two siblings as I have

>>32168466
I'm considering picking up Latin again

>>32170972
>We eat off your plate and use your lap as a foot rest because we’re marking our territory, not because we think it’s cute.
Then I'll take it as a compliment from now on
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>>32170947
People who haven't had cats don't understand their appeal, I think. They are ignorant to the heaven that is a soft loving furry thing laying on you and purring.
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>>32170947
relationships are about give and take, not just giving or taking. If you choose to do so while fully aware of the consequences, that's on you, but you're ultimately playing yourself by investing more into a relationship than the other party is willing to reciprocate
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>>32157692
I love my bf to death but he can say the most absurd things that Im so worried he will say it to the wrong person

For example the most recent one. We were at his nieces birthday and we were hanging with his cousins just talking. I got to jokingly complaining about how he always says the sweetest things to me but always says "just kidding" or makes it out like it's a joke. Then the way he defends himself was something along the lines of "you know, jokes are just truth told through comedy. So if she finds it annoying or cringe I at least have my escape. It's like in that book, diary of Anne Frank where she hides in the attic, jokes are my attic XD". Everybody is mortified and laughing at how absurd of a comparison and how it doesn't even make sense . Like what the heck, imagine he said that in front of my family or friends.

I don't want to neuter him or anything but would it be wrong or too controlling of me to want to tell him to just be careful with what he says around my family/friends? Also why can't he be upfront with my about how he feels, why would he think I would find him saying sweet things to me to be annoying or cringe?
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>>32171296
>"you know, jokes are just truth told through comedy. So if she finds it annoying or cringe I at least have my escape. It's like in that book, diary of Anne Frank where she hides in the attic, jokes are my attic XD"
KEK
What a retard
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>>32171296
I'd say that might be a little too controlling yes, he'd probably be hurt that you don't trust him to be normal around important people. If anything I'd instead warn my friends / family that my partner can be kinda eccentric at times.
>why would he think I would find him saying sweet things to me to be annoying or cringe?
My guess, a fear of rejection, combined with that man thing where we're terrified of displaying any genuine emotion.
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>>32171296
He sounds hilarious.
If the "just kidding" thing actually bothers you, talk to him alone, don't put him on the spot while other people are around.
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>>32171482
>>32171426

Don't get me wrong I find him hilarious too and understand what he is trying to say or convey but he does it in such a strange way and it even took me a while to get use to him. He makes these random inclusions of pop culture references to link his thoughts. It's fitting, but not fitting at the same time if that makes sense. He will say he heard it in a song or in a movie or that it's like this movie or that song or that character. The closet example I can think of is he speaks very similarly to how Kanye West speaks in interviews.

For example one time he was telling his nephews that girls can hypnotise them. When they all got hooked and interested and asked if he was for real, he was saying it's like in Minecraft with the black shadow people that attack you when you look at them. Or theu hypnotise you through whispering, like the whispers in the morning in the Celine Dion song. Then he said the ultimate hypnosis is when try to bite your ears and when they do you become paralyzed and can't do anything anymore. He even told them that all the parents wedding rings were hypnosis rings to make the hypnosis more powerful. He was telling them if you don't want to be hypnotised by girls to just look down and protect your ears from them.

Another example when his family was talking, accusing each other of falling for fake news. He went on a rant about how it makes him wonder how much of history is fake news, because no one could read or compare info back then and just had to rely on the town priest to give them news or read letters. All the while giving everyone cheeky grins. Then when they asked how he knew he said because it seems like how things were in the book Don Quixote that was written in the 1500s

He says ridiculous stuff like that yet it makes people laugh I guess
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>>32171535
None of this sounds world-ending. Just eccentric.
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>>32171296
I'd say you could make it out to be more about the family youre visiting than it is about him, like oh my family can be a bit uptight, their sense of humor can be a bit rigid as a heads up. I don't think it's too controlling to give him a warning or heads up, I'd rather be given that than make a fool of myself in front of my girls loved ones

>why can't he be upfront with my about how he feels, why would he think I would find him saying sweet things to me to be annoying or cringe?
That's something to talk to him about. Sounds like typical guy fears of rejection or ridicule on being open or emotionally vulnerable. Maybe he's experienced that in the past and has been trained to always have an out so he never gets too hurt
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>>32171535
>>32171296
He's just weird. Everyone is. That's normal.

As for why he can't be up front with you about how he feels, that's vulnerability, and that requires trust and confidence and it can possibly lead to problems if you trust the wrong person or if you try to say something and fuck it up and it comes out wrong. I hope he does at least sometimes tell you how he really feels though.
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>>32169677
F, prone. Best angle of penetration, get to feel the weight of them on me, I can bury my face in a pillow so I don't embarrass myself.
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>>32169417
That's just a risk I need to take, I guess.
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>>32170748
I think you're my type, I'm also like this. I used to have a phase I was into jealous guys back when I was BPD and insecure, once I actually got a jealous guy it was an instant "Nope! I'm outta here." for me. Never been jealous myself.
So, anyway, I think you're looking for something kinda rare, the way you're phrasing it. You sound really passionate or romantic, which is really sexy, but I'd suggest you don't call it "obsessive ", just "very romantic". Even though they're the same thing, "obsessive" sounds like you're one step away from murdering someone for love, while "romantic" doesn't have that immediate connotation. Jealousy is bad, either way. If you're jealous or if someone else is into you being jealous, big red flag. Stay away.
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>>32169677
F, I don't know what it's called, but I like having my legs closed together, while the guy's are open and he inserts inside me. In missionary the woman's legs are spread and the guy's are closed in between them, but it's just not as good. I like having my legs closed because I can tighten my cunt to maximum capacity, massage his shaft directly and squeeze his pussy lips around him, all the the same time. 90% orgasm rate for me, without even touching my clit. I like having control over his stimulation and "forcing" him to orgasm and milk his cum inside of me.
Pronebone is also good, but I can't breathe and it's not sexy to me that I can't breathe. I can't focus on the pleasure.
Doggy is really hot, but I can never find something stable to hold onto. I don't like banging my head against things or swaying back and forth while he's doing the same. Doesn't work.
I really like deepthroats, too, but I don't like getting eaten out.
I used to take the pill so they'd cum inside me raw, but I like the feeling of being forced directly down his cock more. Because I can feel the desperate grip of his fist on my head and the exact moment his reason leaves him.
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>>32170001

Ive seen several posts over the years where a western guy will be talking about how good his relationship is with a girl from a traditional country. (China and Kurdistan) The girl worships him and the guy listens and is attentive.
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>>32157692
>be me
>20yo M
>people mistake me for being 17-18 a lot
Is it because I’m short or because I’m beautiful?
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>>32170748
I can relate to your post, even though I wouldn't call myself obsessive I can come on very strong. I tend to reserve my affection for only a few people, but have a lot of it for those people I do care about. That extends to relationships.
Your best bet is to stay reserved for long enough to determine what type of girl you're dealing with. Ramp things up proportionately to how close you actually are with her, keep checking yourself. You don't have to stop being the way you are fundamentally, but don't just go hogwild if you want something actually sustainable. If the girl was only interested for that "obsessive" trait, she will probably filter herself out for you.
>>32171777
Checked
I don't think I've ever tried that position, but you have successfully shilled me
>>32172412
That's a two year difference. Relax. It doesn't mean anything
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>>32172460
>That's a two year difference. Relax. It doesn't mean anything
Sometimes it’s more
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Male here.

>>32164201
Yes, I do quite like having a big cock.

>>32164320
Leaving this one up to chance; but at least one of my own, and one adopted.

>>32167190
Nice.

>>32168466
There's a handful; Russian and Greek are on the list.

>>32168647
She probably has some manner of attraction to you, but don't read too far into it. Plus, would be a bit of a dick move to do anything about it.

>>32169677
Honestly I'm a virgin, but I always assumed I'd enjoy doggy and pronebone. Something quite primal about it all. Reverse cowgirl if she has a great ass.
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Damn. 2 weeks for a SFW picture. I guess /atoga/ is supposed to be just a wall of text, even though this is an imageboard :/
Maybe the janitor was just in a bad mood from all the spam, and I got caught in the crossfire. Yeah, I'll choose to believe that.

>>32172412
It's probably because once you're a certain age, teenagers and early 20s just blend together. They all look like freshmen, haha. Take it as a compliment.
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>>32157821
M, don't really have a preference just be good looking
>>32157893
Lack of purpose/community
>>32158261
>Also why do girls use "weirdo" as an insult, but guys generally don
they care more about social acceptance
>>32162174
just unusual
>>32164320
M, 0
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>>32168466
M, none, it's bad enough having to talk to people IRL in English
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>>32173016
Jeez. I've definitely posted worse than that.
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>>32173016
Careful, jannies are prone to banning people for not gleefully accepting their bans and begging for more.
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Men, did you sleep well last night?
Do you sleep well in general?
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>>32174493
>Men, did you sleep well last night?
I got just under 8 hours, so I would say it was okay but not great.
>Do you sleep well in general?
I try pretty hard to sleep well. I normally aim for 9 hours and don't use any screens an hour before bed. It's pretty noisy where I live though and my blinds don't do a perfect job of blocking out light.
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M, going to go through the thread

>>32157821
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
Eyes, boobs, voice. But I'm not as looks-obsessed as the stereotype goes. I'd rather date a 5/10 with the same passions and interests than a 9/10 instagram bimbo. I like black hair with pale skin personally, but that's just my preference and it isn't 100%. No eye color preference. Probably the most overriding one of all for me is no tattoos or weird piercings (septum etc.), but that's a matter of my taste. Also, as a big boob-lover, please don't get fake tits. The tiniest natural tits are more appealing than the largest fakes, IMO.

>>32157893
>M, what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
It just seems like women don't need us any more. We have very little to offer them in propositioning a relationship besides fulfilling our own emotional loneliness. Women are a lot more emotionally intimate and "loving" with their same-sex friends, so probably don't have the same lack of affection and intimacy in their lives as adults. I think we've pushed the messaging of "you don't need no man" and hardcore independence too far and now we should try to come from the angle of "men and women BOTH need each other." And of course this is all exacerbated by dating apps which turns love and intimacy into a commodity, where you have to put your looks, career, and other "stats" before your personality. When there were more social spaces, you could put your personality on display more easily and make up for a lot of faults.

>>32164320
None, I'm pretty anti-natalist pilled. Not against adoption or marrying a woman with a kid though.

>>32168466
I speak Japanese but I'd also like to learn German to read all the great philosophers in their original text.

>>32174493
No, I haven't recently. Being unemployed always gets my schedule off wack. I need to start exercising again. That always does the trick.
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>>32157821
M
Eyes, lips, thighs. I have no hair colour preference, eye colour isn't the main thing either it's the shape. Also tanlines really mess me up, I find them extremely attractive.
>>32157893
>what do you think is the biggest problem facing men today?
Hate. For oneself and others. Feeling that need to be impressive to others.
>>32164320
M
If I have kids, I think 2 would be nice. Quite a close age between them. I used to hate the idea of having a daughter but I think otherwise now. I'm more scared of having a son that hurts people than a daughter that gets hurt.
>>32169677
Still M
Depends on my mood.
Sometimes missionary but with me on my knees holding their legs apart or together. I like reaching under a woman and lifting her hips up too. Just any way to get deeper and really apply pressure instead of just slamming away. Sometimes slamming away is fine too.
Sometimes doggy, but specifically when they're bent over something. That feeling of pounding them against a surface is good.
Pronebone ends me and I don't know why, it's just a position that I can't last long in, so it feels the best but I don't like that lack of control.
>>32174493
Yes. This week I have been sleeping very well.
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>>32174493
Yeah I did. Dreams of Eldridge horrors crashing into the earth
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>>32174493
No, I still see her in my dreams. It haunts me.
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>>32174493
>Men, did you sleep well last night?
Nope, dogs were up barking a lot. Stinkers. I gotta start closing the window so they can't just lay in it and have a blast shouting at anyone who walks by.
>Do you sleep well in general?
Usually yes, but it's been rough lately. Spring allergies are beating me up and stealing my lunch money.
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>>32174493
I went to bed extremely late and woke up around noon. Slept alright but could have been better. Generally I don't get enough sleep, usually 4-5 hours a night at the most.
>Wish I had someone to sleep next to ;_;
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M question for Fs

Do you ever pee standing up? How/where? Have you ever seen another woman pee standing up?
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F asking both.

ramble time. how can I stop being so insecure about my outie vagina? I hate looking at it. I hate being naked because of it. I’m even scared of masturbating and making it worse. I’ve had sex with one boy before and I’m scared to do it ever again with someone new because of how it looks. I know anyone who would judge is a waste of time. and that I shouldn’t worry about things I can’t change. I even like my body otherwise but having this ugly vagina really bothers me. I’m scared of liking a guy and then getting to the sex stage with him, and having to disappoint him with my ugly vag.
it’s not realistic to never date again because of this so what do I do? pictures here of my situation: https://imgur.com/a/szInKKI


one more question for the girlies. do any of you have tricks to avoid razor bumps when shaving down there? laser is out of my budget. and waxing is a no because I can’t show the wax lady my vag.
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>>32175812
That's barely even an outie and it's definitely not ugly.

To answer your question, the only way you can stop being insecure about something is to make that choice yourself. Like you said, guys who would reject you over that (and I doubt there would be very many) are a waste of time anyway. All you're doing by letting that stop you from dating is guaranteeing you won't get a bf. At least if you try you have a chance. So rather than focusing on all the reasons someone might reject you, just focus on them.

Another thing to keep in mind is that typically, once you've established mutual attraction and you start to get to know each other, physical traits become less important. By the time you're having sex hopefully you have an established relationship already.

Seriously though, I'd love to eat that all day.
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>>32175812
You have some weird self-image issue or insecurity about nothing. Your vagina looks completely fine, there are literally zero issues with it, idiot. The only thing that needs to be fixed is your own body image, promise.
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>>32175812
Absolutely zero issues here
I love innies, but yours barely classifies as outie and looks delicious.
Especially the mon pubis looks super nice.
Please do post more.
Yes you got me hard with those pics
(As a confirmation that it looks nice)
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>>32175812
I promise you it looks perfectly fine. I'm sorry you feel that way because it really is something you should cherish. The appearance of the vulva changing through sex or masturbating is not a thing, take it out of your mind because it's completely false.
> tricks to avoid razor bumps
Rub with baby oil, wait a few minutes, use gentle moisturizing shaving cream, use a small amount of rubbing alcohol on the shaved area, cover with a deodorant. Been doing this for years and it's kept me completely smooth and bumpless. Hope you feel better about it soon.
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>>32175857
as others have said, I think that looks really nice. I'd be happy to chat a bit and help you with your insecurities if you wanted to add me on discord: pork#4909
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>>32175887
thank you so much for the info. any specific deodorant like gel vs the white kind? and do you moisturize after the deodorant dries or no need to?
>>32175876
ugh the only big self image problem I have is this. I hate my lack of curves too. at least for that I’ve been able to go to the gym to try and get a butt.
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Question for guys:

Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?
How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
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Another question for guys:

Would you ever date a girl older than you? Why and why not?
How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
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>>32175944
I use an unscented dove stick, just plain and simple. You can moisturize if you want but I prefer to keep things down there dry since it can get muggy where I live. Best of luck with your lovely kitty.
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>>32175952
I'm 28, and I might date someone as old as 30-31. My only concern is I want at least 2-3 kids and that doesn't give us much time if she's already in her 30s.
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>>32175950
>>32175952
>Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?
Not intentionally. We aren't smart enough to be subtle, usually.
>How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
Ask him. Playing the "sending signals" game is often fruitless because we're naturally inclined to assume you're just being friendly.
>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
Absolutely. Any way is great as long as it doesn't sound like I'm about to be pranked or lose a kidney.
>Would you ever date a girl older than you? Why and why not?
It wouldn't have any bearing on my decision unless it's a significant age difference. Age doesn't really mean much if you ask me, there are mature younger people and immature older people.
>How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
I'm nearly 28 and would date as young as 20, so I don't think it's a big deal.
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>>32175950
Forgot to answer this one, lol.
When I like a girl I try to spend a lot of time around her, I go out of my way to talk to her and spend time with her, and help her with things when there is opportunity to do so. I'd love if a girl approached me/asked me out. Just do it casually during conversation. "Hey, wanna go get dinner together on Friday?" Something like that.

And I also forgot to answer about the age gap in the opposite direction. I'd date as young as 21 probably. Younger than that feels like we have nothing in common, and even 21 is borderline.

...is this SwissAnon?
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>>32176098
>>32176102
Finding the clit isn't hard. Honestly even finding the g-spot isn't that hard.
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>>32175952
>Would you ever date a girl older than you?
Sure, if we were a good match
>How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
20 and 29
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>>32175724
I don't pee when standing up, but I know those bitches in the girl's bathroom do because the toilet seats are often covered in pee.
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>>32157821
>M or F
M
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
Ass, legs, feet, overall proportions (hour glass figure)
>Are there certain attributes you prefer(hair color, eye color, etc…)?
Not really. I don't care about features I can't fuck.
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>>32175950
>Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?
No they normally either outright tell them, send a dick pic, or bottle it up inside waiting for the "right time" thus missing their opportunity. Or they'll take their crush on you to the grave
> How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
If they're not ignoring you and actually wait for you to finish what you're saying. Then again, it could be a bit to get in your pants if they're shrewd.
>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
Guys from my experience, especially me, HATE signs. Just tell us outright that you wanna go grab something to eat or go on a date. Skip the signaling. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to read signs that are purposely vague. Fully commit and see what happens...I mean, the worst he can say is no right?
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>>32175812
>how can I stop being so insecure about my outie vagina?
Try to come to terms that, if anyone would think less of you over such a thing, they aren't worth it anyways. I mean really, could you imagine disliking your partner because of how his penis looks? It's such an insignificant detail in the grand scheme of a relationship, unless a person is very shallow.
>I’m scared of liking a guy and then getting to the sex stage with him, and having to disappoint him with my ugly vag
Everyone has insecurities. That's normal. But you shouldn't let them run your life. Hell, most of the time people will be too worried about their own stuff to even consider yours.
>pictures here of my situation
That looks like a completely normal vagina. One that any normal guy would be more than happy with. I see none of the flaws you seem to. It's just raw insecurity convincing you something is wrong.
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>>32175952
>Would you ever date a girl older than you? Why and why not?
Yeah, I have no problems giving love to an older woman. They're actually easier to talk to and skip the bullshit shy crap younger woman tend to do. Like we both want to fuck each others brains out, why are you pretending you don't want my dick when you're in my house lmao.
>How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
Men don't care. As long as your legal you're golden for a good 70% of us. Seems like woman care substantially about age gaps.
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>>32175812
It’s not ugly at all. No one is going to think anything looks wrong about it and most people are going to wish theirs looked as nice. I have a whole thing I do for mine, my legs, under my arms. I always shave just before I shower. I use a washcloth and hot water to get everything wet, then use Eos Shea Better for shaving gel and one of those guy’s razors with a bunch of blades, a Mach something. It has to be new and sharp. Then I take a really hot shower, dry, and put on a moisturizing lotion. I’ve been using a Dove kind of citrusy avocado scented lotion lately. I’m sure it’s not the right way to do things but it works for me. I grew up with only my dad and my two older brothers so I had to figure out everything on my own.

>>32175950
>>32175952
Nice questions. I’m interested in the answers, too.
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>>32174493
1. Haha no
2. Haha no

>>32175812
Vagina

>>32175950
>Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?
I compulsively filter out any signs of interest I might give off and instead awkwardly try to 'act normal' around her
>How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
I'd pay compliments, tell her that I enjoyed spending time with/talking to her, steer conversations towards things we have in common or things that allow us to open up a little and would generally want to know a lot about her
>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
Show me the lifeless bodies of the exes whose dicks you cut off and tell me they ain't shit compared to me.
If you're not so direct you could make up some obviously bad excuse to hang out. Anything more subtle than that might not land

>>32175952
Personality > age. Within reason
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>>32176098
I don't have experience to go off of, but finding it doesn't sound that hard. Sure it may be hiding under the hood, but it's not like I have to go spelunking for it.
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>>32175952
I really think people should state their age for this one so we don’t get a bunch of boomers screeching about baseball metaphors.
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>>32175952
M, no because I'm already in my late 30s.
>How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
Up to +2, and down to 18 if you're under 25, down to 21 if you're over 25.
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>>32176149
Don't you understand how you're creeping girls out?
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>>32176192
No, and I think it'd be hilarious if you explained.
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So i took this barista who was complimenting me a lot out. She was getting really close to me on a bench and touching me and seemed really into me, at the end, I took her and made out with her a little bit. A day after, she tells me she didn't like that I kissed her, and the texting stopped. Then, a week later I said fuck it and called her, apologized and she invited me to watch her play in a band. I see her afterwards and act very nervous because I didn't feel as cool and comfortable around her since she had essentially rejected me and then showed me how amazing she can sing. So now I felt like a total loser. The next day, she told me she is uncomfortable around me and she doesn't want to lead me on. The end.

I'm pretty bummed because I thought she liked me, and I wish I never kissed her. Do I go back to her coffeeshop? I go there semi-regularly but haven't been since I started talking to her like this. I was thinking of waiting a month and returning, just sayin hi hows it going then that's it. Not sure if I want her, but I thought she was pretty cool, feel like we misunderstood each other or she just lost interest.
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>>32169473
>There are obligations within a relationship that aren't there in a friendship
One of the reasons I don't keep a lot of strictly platonic female friends, and especially no strictly platonic exes, is because I feel like more and more women expect boyfriend-tier support from their male friends, and that's simply not in the cards.
>Sometimes you realize you're not right for each other
This tends to lead towards FWB situations, in my experience.
>or there are serious obstacles that make it unsustainable
Other than distance, could you name a few examples? In any case, speaking from the male perspective, being in a relationship with a woman who counts one or more dudes that have been inside her as "just friends" is... not ideal. At best it's awkward, and in a lot, I'd even say most cases, there's a legitimate concern of opportunistic behavior. It's just not for me. I get that beggars can't be choosers, but I can so... I do.
>I understand that men are often seen as predatory
This wasn't nearly the issue it is until about ten years ago.
>but I don't know the feeling of being seen with a child and assumed to be a monster
Not that I want to discourage empathy on your part, but I haven't really witnessed this in real life all that much; is it a legitimate issue? I can't imagine encountering this and responding with anything other than an emphatic "go fuck yourself, get the fuck away from me, never talk to me or my niece again.
>re: Brad
I'm sorry, I still don't know if I buy it. If for no other reason than because he still easily finds work in Hollywood. Also, as far as "that his kids want nothing to do with him is very telling" goes, I think you're vastly underestimating how easy it is for mothers to brainwash/gaslight children against their fathers, particularly when custody/access has been compromised. Speaking from personal experience and observation on this last point.
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Question for women.

Why would a girl suddenly change the way she interacts with you? We were basically talking all day every day for months, trading nudes, etc. Now this past week she started ignoring messages and replying with one word after 12+ hours
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>>32176192
Don't bother
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>>32169473
>I've been learning German for the past year because I'm going there next month
Why Germany? For how long? As you speak English and have been prepping you'll likely be conversationally proficient within a week.
>I'd like to learn Japanese
Then start learning now; Pimsleur has a good module.

>>32170001
>>32170152
These posts please me.

>>32171296
He's a peacock, ya gotta let him fly. It also sounds like you and your family/friends are whites of the "literally nothing is worse than offending someone" variety; you need to live less apologetically.

>>32176244
Nope, fuck off outta her life, you're officially someone she talks shit about to her friends. Lemme give you a quick play-by-play of the shit tests you failed and what you could have done differently.
>she tells me she didn't like that I kissed her
The correct response to this is "then why did you kiss me?" Queue her getting flustered and stuttering over her own bullshit. Then you just turn on the charm, call her on her bullshit in a playful way, and go from there. If she doubles down on being butthurt about a kiss that she was an active participant in, wish her a nice life and next her. Aintnobodygottimeforthat.
>I didn't feel as cool and comfortable around her
And she could tell. You were so sure of your spaghetti that you convinced her of it. Watch some podcasts with Andrew Tate. What he says isn't important, and in fact he frequently talks out of his ass. You're taking notes on how he carries himself, how he interacts with others, and how others respond to him. You need to decorrelate how you perceive yourself with the validation of others.

Let me ask you this, are you a predator? No. So don't suffer the accusation or implication that you are. Never apologize. Women will constantly test you, often subconsciously, and what they're usually doing is checking for cracks in what some call frame.
>I was thinking of
Nope. You'll just give her validation and lulz. The window is shut. Take the L, move on.
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>>32170370
>Pleasant, fit, younger (20-25) no tattoos or piercings, no kids
So you're asking for an in demand, high value woman.
>low maintenance
In what sense?
>In my head
Nope, but consider looking abroad.

>>32175952
No, I'm in my 30s. Also if a woman expects to have me to herself for her entire life, I respectfully insist she be able to offer her best years to me. Finally, and this is by no means universal, but *most* women my age who are single are single for a reason; mentally unstable, hoes looking to retire, etc.
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>>32176455
>Nope, fuck off outta her life,
I probably would've handled the whole situation more cooly if I wasn't worried about my gf finding out. So yes, Andrew Tate is perfect for me since he's got multiple gf's around the world. Thnaks

I definitely should've played around with the kiss thing. I had the idea when I was spilling spaghetti and it just turned into me saying sorry again. I notice this shit at work too when I want to say shit but freeze up. I can appear cool for only a little bit, when i want to say the really challenging things, I freeze up.
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>>32175952
I did it once, not ever again, now I only date girls much younger than me. The reason is that they are statistically more likely to have more than double your body count, there's a reason they made it to that age without being married, and they will be pressuring you a lot. Don't forget the wrinkles.
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>>32175812
Your pussy is literally fine. It's the most normal and least offensive looking outie imaginable. In fact you should be feeling fortunate and grateful that was the card you were dealt if it had to be an outie. I would eat that without hesitation, provided you shower.
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>>32170947
>>32171109
>relationships are about give and take, not just giving or taking. If you choose to do so while fully aware of the consequences, that's on you, but you're ultimately playing yourself by investing more into a relationship than the other party is willing to reciprocate
Nigga did you really just copy my post?
>>32175724
>Do you ever pee standing up? How/where? Have you ever seen another woman pee standing up?
I've had to be for but most women make the mistake of not squatting a bit, which is what leads to dribbling.
>>32175812
>how can I stop being so insecure about my outie vagina?
F
That's a really normal looking vagina. And 99.99% of straight men wouldn't have a problem with it either.
>do any of you have tricks to avoid razor bumps when shaving down there?
You could try depilatory creams, but those can be hit or miss. Two things that work for me are using a hot, wet compress to soften the hair follicles before shaving, because I have really thick pubic hairs, and at home laser removers which can be pretty tedious and depends a lot on your skin/hair contrast.
There are also really good epilators. I use a Braun, whose IPLs I've heard good things about.
>>32176350
>Why would a girl suddenly change the way she interacts with you?
Either she has issues or she was using you as a distraction til something came along in her life. If that falls through, she'll likely reach back out.
>>32176455
>Why Germany? For how long? As you speak English and have been prepping you'll likely be conversationally proficient within a week.
About two weeks. I'm a slut for German cars (Porsches specifically) so I want to hit up the Porsche and Mercedes-Benz museums. That's really all I want to do in Stuttgart. English is also my second language. I mostly used Anki, Babbel, and FluentU for German but I'm not very good with linguistics.
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>>32176506
Are you enjoying your gendered nouns?
Pop quiz: What gender is "boy" in German? What gender is "girl" in German?
No googling
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>>32176506
>I've had to be for but most women make the mistake of not squatting a bit, which is what leads to dribbling.

when/why did you have to?
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>>32176511
I know there's an age aspect to it, but I believe junge refers to boys or kids in general, and girls is madchen or junge frau. I'm still not well-versed in German punctuation, but I know there are supposed to be tildes and stuff.
>>32176535
>when/why did you have to?
I used to walk to and from school growing up and also like going to big parks and stuff where there may not be rest stops for a long time.
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>>32176586
Oh, sorry. You're correct about those, but I was asking about the noun gender. You know how German nouns have gender, like a table being masculine (der Tisch) etc.? That's what I meant.
I asked because due to weird etymology shenanigans, "Junge" is masculine ("the boy"="der Junge") while "Mädchen" is a neutral/genderless noun ("the girl"="das Mädchen"). It's technically a diminuitive of Magd/Maid, kinda like calling a young girl a "maidenlet" or a "womanlet" in english.
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This is kinda out of place but I saw the most gorgeous goth on a rate thread with short black hair and blue streaks in it. If you see this, you are a literal fucking goddess
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>>32176506
>Nigga did you really just copy my post?
I think is a good advice so i didn't edit anything. Also could you please add to discord? i have a lot questions about this discord girl so i was hoping you can give me some hints in order i can be more emotionally closer to her.
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>>32174493
M
I sleep like a rock unless something like a fan is on. Any white noise keeps me up
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>>32175950
>hints
sometimes, but generally not unless they're submissive, terminally online, nervous, etc. You know the type.
>How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
staring, etc, usually. Being shy, stumbling over words, etc. This usually only works when you're young, though. The bst approach is to just ask yourself.
>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
I wouldn't say want, but I'm not opposed to it, either. If a girl I was into approached me, I'd like that though, obviously. As to how she does it, I don't really care, but the straightforward method is best. Be honest about your feelings, but understand that I may not necessarily reciprocate them.
>Would you ever date a girl older than you? Why and why not?
Maybe. For sex, its probably up to 20 years above. For dating, anything about 28 (im 23) would be really pushing it. It'd need to be really worth it/a really great gal to go farther. As to why not, i think that's pretty obvious beyond your coping.
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>>32175950
>Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?
Can't speak for every man out there, but I'm not exactly subtle.

>How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?
Again, I don't think this is a particularly subtle thing.

>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?
For the most part, I've found this never works for me. Matters change if the woman makes the first move. Having said that, however, something just to get the ball rolling is a major help.

Most recently, I dated a nice Egyptian girl I met in a hostel I was staying in, and the reason we started talking was because she said "I'm going to the store, do you want anything while I'm there?" Not exactly a romantic gesture, but it breaks the ice, and that first instance of breaking the ice tends to be the hardest part, honestly.

>>32175952
>Would you ever date a girl older than you? Why and why not?
No. I'm 32 now, and I want to get married and have children; no geriatric pregnancies in this house, tyvm.

On that note, >>32176475
>f a woman expects to have me to herself for her entire life, I respectfully insist she be able to offer her best years to me
Based as fuck.
>How much of an age difference is acceptable when you're both in your 20s?
Honestly, who cares? I still date women in university.

>>32176098
Not really, no. The only way you can miss that is just not giving a toss, tbqh.
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>>32175724
I tried it once as a kid on a camping trip. Never again.

>>32175812
Sis plz, I don't mean to minimize your concerns, but that's fine as hell. No homo.
Seconding the other girls on their advice to get the area nice and warm first, and shave it CAREFULY with a sharp razor. You can "cheat" by lightly putting some neutral deodorant when you're done. In my head I just treat it as "shaving my legs, but more sensitive". If you know how to avoid razor bumps anywhere, you can avoid razor bumps everywhere.

>>32176103
Could you ask that in the form of a question? :P

>>32176131
>only likes features he can fuck
>includes feet

>>32176193
I don't get it either.

>>32176350
Sorry anon, but without details, it really could be anything. For all I know, maybe her mom found her phone and deleted you from her contacts, lol.
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>>32176586
>I used to walk to and from school growing up and also like going to big parks and stuff where there may not be rest stops for a long time.

why'd you pee standing instead of squatting like girls normally do?
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>>32177890
>I don't get it either.
He's just my biggest fan. Follows me around and tries his best to get my attention. It's adorable.
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This is just a general question of advice for either gender but idk where else to ask.

Does anybody have experience and/or advice for developing a sexual relationship with someone over long distance? I met someone online and things have gotten a bit spicy but we cannot meet in person for some time. It's mostly audio calls for now.

I imagine this being /soc/ that some people have experience with this, but it's a new situation for me, pls help.


>>32174493
No, never.
>>32157821
Ass eyes and thighs.
>>32164320
1 girl 1 boy.
>>32175812
as everyone else has said, very normal vagina. textbook even.
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>>32175950
I think bystanders who knows me can kinda tell when I find a chick attractive based on how I act with her. I might get a bit flirty, maybe there's a bit less physical distance between us if I feel that she's not uncomfortable with it. This stuff is kinda inadvertent though, if anything I need to try to avoid it since I'm already in a relationship

>>32175952
Sure, I'm 24 and wouldn't mind like 28 if I think they are really compatible otherwise
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>>32165999
>just wondering if there is some specific thing i need to do

You're not leaving the house without wearing a bee costume,right? Those are basics,anon
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I really can't tell if women actually want something more from me or if they just want to be friends. Its really bothering me and making me feel led in circles like cheap entertainment. Id think that if they initiate physical contact with me and keep it up on a constant basis they are giving me some kind of signal? Apparently not. I guess im just autistic lmfao

cant wait to die alone
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Why are you so stinky
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>>32175812
>im scared to do it ever again with someone new because of how it looks.

Why,anon? Looks normal,carry on living
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>>32175950
>Do guys leave any hints when they like a girl?

We make it pretty obvious,yes

>How could a girl tell if a guy likes her or not?

Is he staring at you,totally zoned out,close to having spit drool out of his mouth because he forgets to swallow?

Does your "hello anon xD" greeting make him drop things,forget how to properly function,stumble or forget how to talk?

>Would you ever want to be approached by a girl and if you would, how would you prefer she does it?

Just grab his hand,lead the way and say "ima need to tell you sumthing" while walking into the sunset. You can not imagine the pressure you would remove from his chest

Good luck,anon. Hope you will be happy
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>>32178282
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>>32178080
Man, I can only dream of that level of fame on 4chan. Someday I'll have fans too.

>>32178110
It might not sound very sexy, but something that helped for me was to establish a schedule for audio/video calls. That way you don't feel like you're bothering each other - it's just time for Wednesday's chat session. It also lets you plan ahead for things to do and say. I like it because I'm very bad at thinking of witty/sexy things in the moment, which is a problem I imagine a lot of people have, haha.

>>32178247
What kind of physical contact? Hugs? Hugs are friendly.

>>32178249
I did some yard work and it's hot outside.

>>32178362
No
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>>32178639
>Man, I can only dream of that level of fame on 4chan. Someday I'll have fans too.
It's pretty easy if you have a trip! I know that's not for everyone though.
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>>32178256
>>32176495
>>32177890
I appreciate everyone saying it looks normal. seriously eased my insecure feelings about it. but I thought men thought the normal are the innie ones that look like a slit?
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>>32178729
Pale, blushy, hairless innie is when you've won the genetic lottery. Getting such girlfriend is when you've won the lottery yourself. Same deal with pale milk jugs with ghost or pink aerolas. Having said that, it doesn't mean we don't love smooth petite chests, or gropable olive skinned B cups. So fucking what if another girl has an innie? What if she has a rancid personality? I'm still going to bury my face between your legs and pleasure yours.
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>>32178729
Those are just aesthetically pleasing porn-perfect vaginas. Not the normal. Also, many men like a little more meat like you have to play with. What you're rocking down there won't turn any straight man off.
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Do guys like women who make more money than them?
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>>32178776
pedo
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>>32178927
I wouldn't mind
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>>32178729
I couldn't give a shit about innie or outie as far as vaginas go personally. The appearance of a woman's vagina is one of the last things on my mind as far as attraction goes
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>>32178729
The only people who think that are the porn-addicted, since porn largely features girls with innies for some strange reason. But much like boobs, most guys are happy with any kind, and some prefer the opposite of what the porn industry thinks is good. I personally like both equally.
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>>32176478
>I probably would've handled the whole situation more cooly if I wasn't worried about my gf finding out
Anon. You're doing it wrong. If you wanted side pieces why didn't you establish that frame from the beginning? Why bother with being in a relationship with someone who doesn't satisfy you? I feel like you're making this more complicated than it needs to be.
>Andrew Tate
I'm not saying you should think of him as a role model, particularly when it comes to how he interacts with women. He finesses gold diggers, that's what he does, that's what he speaks on. Unless you're sitting on a fleet of Bugattis and a private jet, his advice on women isn't really applicable to you.
>I was spilling spaghetti and it just turned into me saying sorry again. I notice this shit at work too when I want to say shit but freeze up
I believe that your problem may be that, at heart, thou art a bitch ass punk. Don't worry, the condition doesn't have to be permanent.
>I can appear cool for only a little bit, when i want to say the really challenging things, I freeze up
This is literally why women subject us to shit tests, or, more accurately, competency tests. That's why I suggested you study how Tate talks and carries himself. In particular, note how he doesn't look for approval, agreement, or validation from others when he says something. Say what you mean, and don't apologize for what you say.

The reason you froze up is because you were worried about what she'd think, which makes sense; don't wanna scare her off, right? Well, you bitched out, and where did that get you? Be confident, be assertive, be civil, and if at all possible be charming, but speak your truth and let her worry about how she feels about it.

When a girl says some dumb shit like "I don't like that you made out with me, even though I reciprocated with enthusiasm" most dudes won't call her on her bullshit.

Therein lies the secret, so simple that you kind of have to laugh: don't be most dudes.
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>>32176506
>I'm a slut for German cars
Excellent taste, although I prefer Italian. That said, one of my best memories is blasting down the A24 in my 2016 Panamera Turbo S, going as fast as 290 KPH at times,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Y1sEmyymw
on loop the entire way; made it from Hamburg to Berlin in barely over an hour.

>>32177172
>Based as fuck
Appreciate the kind words, bro.
>Honestly, who cares?
Women who have aged out/hit the wall. A lot of them care. They're malding, even. A wise woman once said "men see themselves in younger men, women see themselves as younger women" and that informs our interactions. A lot of women get extremely butthurt about the concept of the wall, which is about as rational or helpful as athletes getting upset or being in denial about the wall; the entire point is to make the most out of your best years, but that sounds an awful lot like accountability, which a lot of women seriously struggle with. Let me take moment to clarify: I'm not looking to shit on women here, our society panders to you endlessly and coddles your ego, but absolutely sets you up to fail in many of the ways which matter the most; I legitimately think there are women out there who have made it to their 30th birthday, that have heard less than 5000 words of honest, constructive criticism in their entire life.
>I still date women in university
As well you should. Even ignoring the fact that younger women are simply more desirable, putting aside the issues of body count and baggage, I don't think it wise to commit to someone to who commitment was a backup plan. I think 26 is more than old enough for a woman to know what she's about, and if she's about being a wife and mother.

You see a lot of failed girl bosses and girls who rode their delayed adolescence right into the wall then all of a sudden decide they're ready to settle down, and sorry for not being sorry, but miss me with that shit.
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>>32178110
My honest advice for LDR is... don't. But, if you must,
>>32178639
I second this anon's solid advice.

>>32178247
Hugs might be friendly, might be more. Holding your hand is more than friendly. Placing her hands on your chest and looking into your eyes is an invitation to escalation.

>>32178936
I'm sorry ma'am, the milks gone bad.

>>32179075
I prefer innies, but pussy is kind of like pizza in that if it has my favorite toppings it's obviously a bonus, but as long there's not literal shit on it I'll probably eat it and be happy... especially if the service was good.

"I can't eat this, it's not stuffed crust." -Nobody, ever
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>>32136742
Me again. Things have been slow. I've chilled out from the initial thrill of being put in contact with her after so much buildup. To be honest things haven't really gone anywhere, but that's more because I haven't pushed my luck.

But here's the big news. I'm headed down to where she is in a couple weeks. Business trip. I'm hoping my business partner introduces us. I just need some social leverage to cause her to start talking. My experience with getting awkward femanons talking has been great, so I hope it translates to this girl.

Especially given the partner hasn't been talking about her so much lately, I really hope he doesn't think the crisis is averted. I want to meet this dorky girl so bad.
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I asked a girl for her number and she gave me her goybook. Am I rejected?
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Women, would you rather date a guy in the 5’5”-5’6” range who has a face that is babyfaced and pleasant to look at, or a guy who is 6’2”-6’3” with a booming voice and conventionally ugly, ogre-ish face?
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Does it mean anything when a guy stretches a lot around you? Even if you're not looking at them in their direction but just next to them?

And does it mean anything if guys level their voice volume to yours than their regular volume?
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>>32180012
Uh... No? What would those even mean?
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>>32175812
Look up "Classification of The Anatomical Variation in Female External Genitalia" pdf. I think all women should see this, and even some men.

>one more question for the girlies. do any of you have tricks to avoid razor bumps when shaving down there? laser is out of my budget. and waxing is a no because I can’t show the wax lady my vag.
You can buy a wax warmer and hard wax to do it at home. A wax warmer is about $40 and a tin of hard wax is about $20. It lasts a while too.
Or trim using an electric trimmer with a guard. I recommend a men's beard trimmer, Philips Norelco OneBlade with the 1mm guard.
>>32180033
Oh ok then
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>>32178729
For some men that's the "ideal", but that doesn't mean it's abnormal or ugly if it doesn't look like that.
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>>32180045
Try not to read too much into "signals" when it comes to guys, anon. We're not smart enough to do that stuff. If anything we do means something it's almost definitely subconscious.
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>>32179486
No nigga, message her
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>>32180063
Thanks. You're right, I'm just new to socializing with men. I was wondering because it seemed so frequent.

I bent down across a guy's desk to plug an outlet under our desk and he swiftly moved away even though the desk was deep. Made me feel bad after because I felt that I made him feel uncomfortable. Trying to be careful.
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>>32180124
No problem! Totally get it, I was new to socializing with women when I first arrived at ATOGA. It's a nice place to get a start at socializing.
>bent down across a guy's desk to plug an outlet under our desk and he swiftly moved away even though the desk was deep
Guys tend to be very aware of physical contact or the potential risk of it. I wouldn't say you made him uncomfortable, rather, he was likely worried about making you uncomfortable by touching you.
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>>32178927
Had a guy who was a bit insecure about it, but I didn't bring it up and we didn't talk about expenses all day. I did have more to spare and treated him. Then again, I have a bit of a femdom/role reversal kink and it turned me on.
I just really like the idea of paying a guy for sex because it both means that I'm so desperate for his cock I'm willing to pay, and he's also enough of a pervert slut that he's prostituting himself.
Anyway, that's kinda what I was thinking while I was buying him stuff.
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Why do women always want me?
I want something deeper, and while they always claim they want a deeper relationship, i'm always just a living dildo.
It huts so much :(
I hate being so trusting
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>>32178927
In theory I don't really care. The main problem is when she wants to things I can't afford. I'm a super broke student and can't really afford to travel often or eat out every time we hang out. It makes me uncomfortable to feel like I'm holding her back from having fun.

>>32180231
Hot
>tfw no sugar mommy gf to prostitute myself to
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>>32180124
>I'm just new to socializing with men
Female incel
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>>32178927
I personally wouldn't mind it, but I know a lot of guys tend to be insecure about that sort of thing.
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>>32178927
>does anyone is looking for a suggar mommy?
Just give me your discord
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>>32157821
M
The feature I'm most attracted to is the midriff.
In terms of features that I like? Everything - tits (big or small), hips, ass, thighs, lips, eyes, jawline, nose, shoulders, some muscle definition, hair, neck, hands etc. etc.

I generally prefer European features over others, particularly Africans (and I understand I'm covering a huge range of variance there). I also prefer natural hair colours over artificial with a bias towards dark hair and tan skin - in particular I don't like the basically see-through scandi hair/skin. I don't like wavy/curly hair and I don't like eyes so dark that you can't distinguish the pupils (but hazel is fine).
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>>32157821
M
I dunno if this is a fetish mine but the haircut of a girl is the very first thing i notice
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>>32175952
>>32178927
In my experience a younger guy and the woman making more than him doesn’t make a good relationship. Either he just wants you to do everything and puts nothing into the relationship, or he’s not looking for anything longterm at all.

>>32179918
I’m the exception probably but I’d prefer the former.

>>32180124
It’s pretty obvious and predictable. Just watch them and pay attention. The first clue is how they look at you. It becomes less perfunctory, more deliberate. There will also be a shift in their voices. It will either become more forceful or softer depending on the guy’s personality, if he’s more outgoing or shy with women. They also get twitchy and start making more jokes, and the shy ones will seem almost avoidant. Then they’ll start testing the waters and probing about your personal life with what they think are indirect questions to see what their chances are. Then they’ll either try to get you into a situation where they can be more direct or they’ll just go for it. What you want to do is start or speed up the look and the voice part by hinting with your own and then smoothly move them into the last part and they’ll usually do the rest. If you know they are available you can just be direct but that is crazy scary because it opens you up to rejection.

>>32180124
Being at work makes things really weird so it might or might not mean something. Everyone is more cautious to not do anything inappropriate so he might not have even felt awkward but was just making sure nothing looked weird.
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>>32178927
I'm indifferent, although women at or above my income bracket almost always have an insufferable superiority complex, and hypergamy is a concern, but a woman making more than me is not a dealbreaker in and of itself.

>>32180531
>insecure
This word gets thrown around a lot, often directed at men. It's often a lowkey manipulative. You're not wrong, but we're insecure about it in the same way one is insecure about leaving their house without locking the door; there's a legitimate cause of concern at play.

Most men are aware of the hypergamous nature of women, even if they're not familiar with the word. I'm sure there are exceptions aside from the femdom ITT, but even that exception sounds like it was a casual relationship based mostly in sex. However, most women expect the man they're with to provide, and if a man isn't making more than the woman he's with, on an instinctual level there's anxiety about her looking to trade up. If I'm not confident that she's not confident I'm the best she can get, we have a problem. Men need to feel needed.

There's also matters of practicality to consider; I want kids, but I'm also never going to stop working. If the woman I'm with makes more than me, it doesn't really make sense for her to stop working to be a stay-at-home-mom... but chasing my purpose is what gets me up in the morning, and I'm not going to stop. The other thing is this, women who make as much or more than me tend be either over 30 (no thanks) or professional narcissists (pipe 'em, but don't wife 'em) so I just struggle to think of a woman in my life who out earns me that I also have any interest in pursuing something serious with.

Money is important in a capitalist society. Who knew?

>>32179486
Message her *once* and do not message her again until she replies.

>>32180124
I'm assuming from context this is someone you work with? You didn't make him feel uncomfortable, dude is just covering his ass to avoid a trip to HR.
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How odd is it to think of a 31 year old guy with a 54 year old woman? She's such a great person, yet we're just friends. Problem is, we've been getting along so well, that I don't know if in any way she's interested in anything more; starting to feel somewhat confused. Not saying that I am for sure interested in more, but we are getting quite close. I honestly don't know how to gauge the situation
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F/28

>>32157821
Blond hair, blue eyes, tall, with a nice jaw and high cheekbones. Deep voice and muscles are a bonus.

>>32157893
Social media has overinflated the ego of most all women

>>32158281
The more masculine, the better. I love it all.

>>32158532
8+ inches and girthy

>>32159859
I think it applies unless she's shy

>>32161756
I want to be approached with confidence. idk about #2, and I love long coats.

>>32162186
Halo is my fav, but as far as male power I love Albert Wesker.We used to play pretend mostly.

>>32163525
I prefer facial hair but I don't mind clean shaven.

>>32168466
Been studying german but I want to get better

>>32169677
Doggy for the stimulation

>>32180344
Stop giving them your dick until you have them in a real relationship then
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>>32180520
>Female incel
nooooo or at least I hope not
just a decade of being a hikki

>>32180979
>and the shy ones will seem almost avoidant
Yeah, this is why I get confused sometimes, especially when dealing with younger men. I can't quite tell with shy people if I'm bothering them or it's because they don't want to bother me. Because when the ball starts rolling they're really responsive to my responses and go out of their way to continue the conversation. Who knows.

>>32181323
>I'm assuming from context this is someone you work with? You didn't make him feel uncomfortable, dude is just covering his ass to avoid a trip to HR.
Nah, in a class setting. The physical response made me feel like a molester though lol :(
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>>32181647
It can be hard to tell with shy guys sometimes. What’s the age difference? What’s the context? Are you a returning student or his TA or something?
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>>32181647
>Nah, in a class setting
Same difference. Men have become extremely wary of having their lives derailed over a simple misunderstanding or fabrication. You didn't do anything wrong, he's just protecting himself. Nothing you can do except be outgoing and make it clear and consistent that you're safe to be candid with/around.
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>>32181684
7 yrs and I'm just an older student. I'm not really interested in him. I just want to learn how to properly socialize with men. Thought I'd ask around here since it's male dominated.

>>32181714
I get it. Well that's a relief. I just hope I don't make anybody feel physically uncomfortable.
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>>32181727
Both being students removes a lot of the cautious awkwardness that would come from coworker or TA-student relationships so it’s probably not that. Seven years is kinda different from 18-25, 21-28, or 26-33, so that context is important. Really three options: he is interested in you and is overly shy and moved away to avoid offending you and blowing his chance (in his mind), he doesn’t see you as a romantic interest and was just getting out of the way so you could plug in, or he doesn’t want to see you as a romantic interest and was trying to avoid touching you. Which one depends on the other interactions but the stretching and yawning just means he’s annoying, it’s not a signal. If you aren’t interested it really doesn’t matter, but if you want to use him for practice dating at least be honest with him about it.
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>>32181727
>>32181751
There’s nothing wrong with practicing your socialization with him if both of you are on the same page, btw.
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>>32181789
In fact depending on the exact ages it might be ideal if you both know nothing serious will likely come of it going into it.
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>>32181727
In regards to the "he moved away" thing: refer to OP. picrel.
Take care not to lead him on if you're not interested and just practicing socialization.
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>>32180520
I want to use violence on her but out of good feelings
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>>32179918
Bumping
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>>32157692
Probably got let go today. For the best because I was tired of working fast food anyway.

>taking order
>supposed to take down names in drive thru
>he spells out name “Eduardo”
>can’t hear anything through out shitty headset plus my hearing isn’t good anyway
>hear the name tho
>put “egguardo” on the ticket because idk how to spell it
>manager gets upset because she thinks I did it intentionally for some reason
>told to clock out and go home
>I do

Guy didn’t even complain, idk if he even would’ve cared. Never been late for a shift or done anything like that in the past. Liked by majority of coworkers so that sucks but wygd. No track record of even any customer complaints. Even if they don’t fire me I’ll probably still leave because it was such bs. Plenty of summer jobs anyway.

Both genders,
What’s your worst experience with an employer?
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>>32182155
My first job was awful. Basically, to make any decent money, you had to get to higher tiers of promotion by getting good ratings. But people at the higher tiers got first pickings on what work to do, leaving the rest of us at the bottom with scraps that nobody wanted to touch. So you were pressured to do a lot of work, and do well with it, using terrible product. Stressful as hell.
Didn't help that the rules were convoluted as hell, and our reviewers were the same higher-tiered people. I remember one time I got 1 star out of 5 and it felt like a knife to the gut. At least until I disputed it.
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>>32182155
Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen and I think you’re kind of young so you can find something equal or better.

I had two bad ones and one I just don’t like.

I was a RA for a real jerk of a professor in grad school. He was full of himself, had no idea of any kind of strategic vision of what he was doing, would steal ideas, belittle his assistants, etc.

In one of my first jobs as an engineer the manager was basically a wanna be Harvey Weinstein. He was this balding middle aged man who only hired pretty college girls as interns and tried to molest every last one of them. He tried to do the same to me and when I shut him down I was suddenly micromanaged and nothing was right down to the way the monitor cables ran behind my desk. He’d also walk through the office yelling into his phone about how all the women at the business conference he had just attended had nice asses, talked down some his employees to other of his employees, and hired the most toxic group of people I have ever met.

I don’t like my current job because I’m more of a manager than an engineer and I hate the people side of the job but that’s just the way the job is, not that it’s bad. I have had the joy of trashing the resumes of two people from the toxic group who came looking.
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>>32177925
Because it goes forward a bit when you squat, and I didn't want to piss on myself or my pants.
>>32178249
>Why are you so stinky
Your mom keeps spraying her pussy juices on me.
>>32178776
This all seems like preference. I like bright, pink pussies and smaller breasts with small, defined nipples.
>>32178927
>Do guys like women who make more money than them?
In my experience, they don't. Most men want to be providers.
>>32179332
>Excellent taste, although I prefer Italian.
I can respect Italian cars for what they are. Minimalist supercars designed for one thing and carrying an expensive badge. Lamborghini and Ferrari are synonymous with Prada and Dolce & Gabbana. All flair for people that want to shell out the money for it. German cars are available across all price ranges and are well-known for their reliability and being over-engineered. The quality contrast between German and Italian anything is like night and day.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Y1sEmyymw
I remember hearing this in Super Troopers and it's still one of the worst things I've ever heard.
>>32176475
>if a woman expects to have me to herself for her entire life, I respectfully insist she be able to offer her best years to me.
And what's to stop you from saying, "You're out of your prime and I could do better" when she ages out of that "best years" window? It also doesn't bother you that you're searching for a woman in a completely different stage of life than you? The thought of dating a man even five years younger than me feels gross.
>>32179918
Short guy. I hate ugly people.
>>32180012
>Does it mean anything when a guy stretches a lot around you?
No, but big guys are usually hyper aware of their own size and the space they take up.
>does it mean anything if guys level their voice volume to yours than their regular volume?
Tone and pitch matching is a sign of attraction.
>>32181586
>8+ inches and girthy
My cervix would be crying
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>>32182251
>Tone and pitch matching is a sign of attraction
I’ve noticed shy or mellow guys tend to get quieter and soften their voice to not seem threatening and outgoing guys tend to get louder and project it more to get your attention, if they like you.
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>>32182155
>What’s your worst experience with an employer?
Both happened in fast food but with different managers. A classmate threw a melted milkshake at me when I was walking into work after school. Manager told me to go home and not work, so I had to walk home in 98 degree weather and smelled like spoiled milk by the time I got there.
Other time I had a meltdown while working the register (which I was specifically kept from doing for this very reason but that manager didn't want to honor the terms I negotiated with the store manager when I was hired) because a customer was yelling at me and my manager thought the best way to handle it was to yell at me on top of that, so I just sat on the floor crying hysterically as two people screamed at me. Definitely worth the $7.50/hour.
>>32182261
People will also start adopting your behaviors if they like you. You can see this in a lot of celebrity couples.
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>>32181586
>8+ inches and girthy
3, take it or leave it
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>>32182251
>Short guy. I hate ugly people.
Interesting. From your perspective, would you still be massively settling?
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>>32182251
Lol my cervix wants to cry
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>>32182155
When I worked a terrible callcenter job in the few months between finishing school and going into higher education, I had two different female supervisors. One was fat and slathered in makeup, the other was a rail thin lesbian. They were both annoying in different ways.
The fat one dragged me to our boss because she thought I hated her since I didn't smile at her. For the record, this wasn't in America, I was in no way rude or dismissive towards her, and it had been less than a week since I started so I didn't even know anyone there and was too busy just trying to get my bearings. Our boss listened to it, asked a very surprised me about it, and essentially just sighed, declared the situation a nothingburger, and moved on. She eventually got over it.
The other one, the supposed lesbian, fucking LOVED me. But perhaps a little too much, considering I was 17 and she was in her 30s. She would get way too fucking touchy with me and even tried to fairly forcefully make out with me during some random nonsense office party. I tolerated the rest, but I violently shoved her off at that point and she basically avoided me from that point on. If the genders had been reversed she would have been fired for less than half of the shit she did
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>>32157692
Do you need long fingers to finger good?
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>>32182155
>Probably got let go today
I doubt it. Companies are finding it really hard to fill wagie positions. When you show up for your next shift, don't bring it up if nobody else does, and if they do, I suggest you civilly, but assertively state the truth of what happened, and that you're dissatisfied with how the situation was handled. That sending you home without discussion was completely inappropriate. If you really feel like McFucking with them, accuse your manager of discriminating against you for being LGBTQ+.

Worse case scenario you get fired, and as has been mentioned these places are desperate for help, so who gives a shit?

>>32167383
That anon is right, arm days are pointless; dumbbell curls and skullcrushers are all the supplementary work your arms will need, assuming you're doing the compound lifts you should be doing in the first place.

>>32182251
>I can respect Italian cars for what they are. Minimalist supercars designed for one thing and carrying an expensive badge
What color is your lambo? But in all seriousness, my huracan might be my favorite car I've ever owned, this thing FUCKS.
>And what's to stop you from saying, "You're out of your prime and I could do better" when she ages out of that "best years" window?
My love for her, I would imagine. The sort of reverence you have for someone who has gifted you with children, and has supported one in their purpose, and has proven themselves to be a loyal, affectionate, and dependable partner and sanctuary to come home to.
>It also doesn't bother you that you're searching for
I've found her, just to be clear.
>a woman in a completely different stage of life than you?
Not at all. Why would it? You have to remember men and women want different things out of members of the opposite sex. Time and experience doesn't add anything to a woman that I care about, it's just more winding down of the biological clock, and more ex-boyfriends to skew every interaction she'll have with me. No thanks.
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Do any of you women mosh at concerts? What is moshing like as a woman? Would you ever consider doing it?
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>>32158246
yes holy shit. i didn’t realize how much i liked it until i saw some young-ish guys with huge legs. it doesn’t make them look feminine like i thought. on a talk guy it’s absolutely insane
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>>32181751 >>32181789 >>32181794
>>32181842
Thanks for the input.
Of course. I would talk to women the same way I talk to them. The only difference would be the aura maybe.
I'm practicing just beeeeing myself without any hope. If I get lucky and find a male bf or female bff through this, then so be it. Just trying not to become socially retarded just because it's the digital age.
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>>32182878
Haven't even seen any big pits at a concert since covid to be honest. Maybe I'd try it, my parents did fine in them.
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>>32182985
I was moshing a bit at a couple concerts I went to recently and I always feel a bit uncomfortable with the women in there. I don't want to hurt them or even touch them really but I assume they go into the pits wanting to be thrown around like everyone else within
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>>32183002
My mom calls the pit an equal opportunity zone, most people didn't really care or know who you were so everyone got thrown around, just don't be a total goon lol.
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>>32182878
As a man, moshing is stupid and I look down on people who do it.
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>>32180231
First off, that’s hot.
Second off, yeah I work in stem and I’m not really into guys who are in my field, I like artsy dudes so that’s why I was asking. I know women making more money than they can be a big turnoff and I am far from a femdom lmao.
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>>32180541
Hdjshdjaks I’m a broke college student atm \(_ _)/
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For girls:

>What size was the biggest dick you had inside your pussy?
>Is there a size that is too big and doesn't feel good / does hurt?
>Do you have a preferred dicksize, that enjoy the most (how good the guy is does not matter here)?

And if you do anal:
>What's your prefered dicksize when doing anal?
>What's the biggest dick you can take up your ass and still enjoy?

And also (talking about penetration, no foreplay):
>How long should a guy at least last so it's not a complete waste of time?
>What's your ideal amount of time or timespan before a guy finishes?
>Ever experienced it to be too long? If the answer is yes: how long is it?
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>>32183454
Not really, it's still personal preference. I like slim women.
Also it depends what you mean with curvy. It's used to describe fat people nowadays
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>>32180231
I understand the kink but that couldn’t have been a healthy relationship.

>>32182921
Good luck! When you read my advice keep in mind that I’m probably on the spectrum, not really successful at this, and don’t really know what I’m doing, but awkward encounters with younger guys is something I have some experience with.

>>32182824
Does the lift feature help with speed bumps?
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>>32183454
No, that is not the case. Everyone has their own preferences.
Even if "most guys" prefer curvy woman, it shouldn't matter when you can find one guy who loves slim women, and wouldnt want to change you or choose someone else.
>>32183449
Really nice pic by the way. You look great.
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for M—im trying to figure out what to wear on my honeymoon, what are your fav types of lingeries or cute pjs for a girl to wear?
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>>32183471
It was unhealthy but it had nothing to do with money. At first I was employed minimum wage when he met me, then his family business closed, he was unemployed, then we both got new jobs and I made more money than him, then I quit and he got a raise etc. It was unhealthy, but it was actually because of his misconceptions surrounding Asperger's, hurting me.
He actually told me once he wouldn't allow himself to cry in front of me or I'll think he's a pussy. Very toxic. I told him about my bullying and he would laugh at me. And that's why I broke it off. Wasn't money.
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>>32183454
M. Every body type gets love, that's how it has always been, although with the current state of social media thicc girls, fatty girls, and fit girls have gotten a lot more attention. Petite and slim girls haven't gone anywhere. I think the only quality that men might nope away from is hank hill butts. I don't think anyone should feel bad about it because the butt is something you can fix naturally.
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>>32183454
Nope. All body types are great as long as you aren't obese or anorexic, is the general consensus.
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>>32183454
No. It's just that almost everyone is fat now. Curves are made of bone structure, muscle, and normal levels of bodyfat on a woman. Not a ton of fat from being overweight
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>>32183645
Ask your new husband for his preferences instead of men online.
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>>32183645
How nice of you to have me on your mind when you're in the mood to feel cute and sexy! I'd prefer you to wear one of my shirts in the morning instead, along with your favorite pair of whale tale.
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>>32183454
Yes, you're right, but it's not absolute and curvier doesn't mean lard.
Just start lifting and try hard to eat a bit more at first, your appetite with increase and you'll be in much better shape in 6 months or so.
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>>32183097
Nerd emoji
>>32182878
M; the best moshpits aren't at concerts.
I've been to all sorts of moshpits and I really wouldn't encourage women to get in there or want them there for many good reasons.
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>>32184207
This wouldn't be the case if you ate more, and trained right.
By right I mean training more than just your ass and maybe femur muscles each session which 90% of women do at my gym thanks to tiktok.
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>>32182824
>What color is your lambo? But in all seriousness, my huracan might be my favorite car I've ever owned, this thing FUCKS.
While on the topic of Italian cars, Maserati and Alfa Romeo are steaming piles of shit. But I'm still dogging for a Porsche. Preferably an old model like the 930 or 997, before they removed the manual transmissions in the turbo models and when there were physical buttons and gauge clusters.
>My love for her, I would imagine.
Plenty of men step outside of their marriages, even when they have the "perfect" wife. There's no way to know.
>Why would it?
Because a 21 year old woman wants different things out of life than a 40 year old man. Because statistically, he'll when she's 59 and she'll be left alone until she dies at an older age than him.
>it's just more winding down of the biological clock
This is what I mean. You're valuing women on their ability to reproduce, not anything character related. If your wife miscarries and requires a hysterectomy, are you just going to drop her? If you lost your ability to provide for your family, do you expect her and your potential kids to just drop you?
>>32182878
No, and I've been to a bunch of metal concerts. I'm just too small.
>>32183310
>What size was the biggest dick you had inside your pussy?
Never had one, so I can't answer any of the subsequent questions either.
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Guys is blue balls a real thing? And does it actually hurt
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>>32184880
Sort of. For me, it doesn't start actually hurting until 2+ hours of arousal without relief. Up to then it's mostly just discomfort.
As for why it happens, blood doesn't just gather in the shaft when aroused, it happens in the testicles as well because they prepare for ejaculation. If they're primed for too long but don't get to launch, they start to get sore.
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He got weirded out because I wanted to smell his stinky dick and balls :(

It's clear we're not sexually compatible because I'm a freak
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For F.
Is a 15cm long and 15cm of circumference penis a bless or am i just standar?
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>>32184937
Are you a furry too?
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>>32183838
It just sounds like general incompatibility but an outsider never has a full picture.

>>32184207
Tell us about your workout and diet.

>>32183310
I’m really reluctant to answer these questions because I’m almost certain they aren’t asked in good faith.
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>>32184968
no, just kinda weird
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>>32184937
Who is he and what is this about, 1 post by this ID?
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>>32184942
That sounds about perfect to me
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>>32185019
So im a standar? Sometimes when im horny as fuck the size(long) is 16.5cm and for a while can be 17cm.
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>>32185055
I guess it's around average but that or a little bigger tends to be the perfect size imo
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>>32185150
That girth is definitely not average. It's like 99th percentile.
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>>32183454
Thicc has definitely been trending, but different strokes etc. Look up 'Rubenesque women'. There have always been chubby chasers and there will always be those who prefer skinny.

>>32182155
Worst boss was some retired MMA fighter who bought a restaurant which was a revolving door of personnel coming in and going out. Lots of complaints from former employees concerning everything up to and including payment. Management had 0 taste. 0 standards. Ass-kissers got away with anything. The place only functioned as a tourist trap. Tried to introduce some changes concerning hygiëne(for example half-cooked chicken was just sitting out in the heat all night) and other things you can get shut down over, but they didn't want to hear any of that and I got fired at the end of the shift on the last night of my two month trial period.

>>32183645
Also not sure you should be sourcing that here, but see pic related for my suggestion :^)
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>>32183645
Anything with stockings is really good. I also like sheer lace in lingerie, it's really sexy.
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>>32185166
Oh oops, I did my metric mental math wrong. In that case that's certainly not average and has it's own novelty to it. I personally prefer thickness over length, so have pride in it.
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how do i get a femcel gf?
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>>32183471
In the sense that I've gone from "rerouting" to "if I take it slow I'm not terrified of mutilating my car" when encountering bumps.

>>32184860
>While on the topic of Italian cars, Maserati and Alfa Romeo are steaming piles of shit
No argument here; I loathe the Maserati aesthetic, and AR is literally Bugatti by wish dot com.
>Plenty of men step outside of their marriages
Plenty of women, as well. Good for them, has nothing to do with me or my situation.
>Because a 21 year old woman wants different things out of life than a 40 year old man
Not necessarily. I think the idea is that "most" women want to spend their 20s fucking randos and basing their identity around instagram and clout, and that's fine, but "most" women aren't wife material. I have zero interest in someone who spends their prime doing hoe shit, then wakes up one day, accepts that the reality that being your own boss is more toil than glamour, realizes it's been a while since she's been invitied on a yacht, and then decides she's ready to "settle down." That's not someone who finds purpose and fulfillment in being a good wife and mother; that's someone who has run out of options.
>You're valuing women on their ability to reproduce, not anything character related
The two aren't mutually exclusive; it's possible, not to mention practical, to care about both.
>If your wife miscarries and requires a hysterectomy
That has a less than 1% chance of happening, and only even beings to approach 1% if it's a geriatric pregnancy and/or the woman has had a c-section, neither of which apply to the girl I'm with. But, in the highly unlikely scenario my healthy and nubile fiance had complications, no, I wouldn't just drop her like a lame horse.
>If you lost your ability to provide for your family
I struggle to think of a scenario where this is applicable short of me being rendered comatose, and even then there are passive income streams coming in, assets to my name, and contingencies in place.
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>>32185290
That reminds me of this post I saw earlier
I agree that a lot of women do try to settle down when they find that they're less valued as they age because their youth and beauty was the only thing they could have offered most men.
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>>32185166
>>32185203
so i have a thick penis? do you think this thickeness can make happy my future wife or would hurt her?
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>>32185401
You're definitely going to need to be careful. From what I've gathered, ~14 cm tends to be the "this is going to be a challenge" range for girls. That being said, it's far from impossible, and girls who can manage the accommodation should enjoy it. Lube will be your best friend.
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>>32185406
how about my thickness? are you talking about asian girls?
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>>32185494
>how about my thickness?
That's what I was referring to?
>are you talking about asian girls?
... What?
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>>32185504
He’s trolling.
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>>32185504
oh yeah my bad. i mean i thought 14cm of thickeness was not something a lot big(i think is just 2cm more than the standar, right?) i said asian girls because they are smaller than white girls, that's why i thought 14cm of thickenss could be a challenge for such small bodies.
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I'm very interested in having a woman help explain to me why I reached Wizardom. I don't think I'm particularly creepy or ugly, yet here I am a 30 KHV

バカのアホ#1863
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>>32157692
Both genders, have you ever shot a gun?
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>>32185564
Don't you already have some idea as to why?
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>>32185689
Male.
Yes, plenty of times, and I own more than one.
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>>32185564
Keep saving yourself for the wife that God made for you.
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>>32185564
If I had to guess, it's probably Asperger's.
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>>32157692
A question for the females, guys cam chime in too if they have experince.

I'm a guy.

I've been dating this girl for about 1 month and a 1 week month now, we've had our 3rd date on Sunday, took her out to lunch and she got tickets for us to go see Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
Even with the language barrier, we chat alot together, we make jokes and laugh.
She's from China, I'm from the U.K. and she's working here for a good while longer.

But for physical contact, farthest I've felt comfortable with is kissing her on the cheek, holding her hands and doing a hug from behind.
Because after our first date, I walked her home, I looked her in the eyes ready to initiate a kiss and I felt like I had terrified her, so I kissed her on the cheek instead.
And since then, I've been the only one making attempts at physical contact,she hasn't protested, said no, or went ew, she just doesn't initiate physical contact.

Do I do anything?
Do I say anything about it to her?
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>>32186428
Yeah, low protein will be an issue, but your other problem is being scared of the weights section. Dumbbells are also weights. Just go pick up a weight, you don't need to be strong to start. If you don't know what to do with the weights, just read the /fit/ sticky.
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Is there actually anything wrong with choosing a childfree by choice lifestyle?

I see people online trashing it so much. But me and my gf are really happy with no kids and don't feel the need to have any.

Anybody else (M or F) childfree?
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>>32185689
yeah and I own 2

F
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>>32185689
F, yep.

>>32186286
I understand why you feel like you did something wrong, but focus on the positives - she's still going on dates with you, right? So it's not like she hates or is scared of you. The important part is that so far, your acceptable intimacy level is a kiss on the cheek. That's great! Maybe she's not returning the gestures because she doesn't know how, or something about Chinese culture? I dunno. What matters is that the door is still open. If you want to cut through the uncertainty, say something like "this is the part where I give you a goodbye kiss" and just go for it.

>>32186502
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You can find people hating anything online.
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Got this girls number, we've called once for an hour, but have been texting throughout the day for the past 3 days. I asked her out but she says she wants to wait a couple weeks. She seems interested, she's almost interrogating me at some points. Never seems to run out of questions for me. She texts me back faster. Like I'll be busy and take a few hours to get back to her but then she gets back to me pretty fast, double texting. I'm just kind of impatient and kind of impulsive and I'm worried I might break. She's very Christian, I've never gotten christian girls number successfully before. They're so cruel because they're so nice and then poof. The wait makes me think maybe she doesn't trust herself rather than trust me, am I wrong to think that she'll put out on the first date?
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For M.
How can I know if I have a particularly tight pussy? I've slept with about 10 guys at 27, some boyfriends, some casual. At least 5 of them have commented that I'm tight/small. But how do I know they don't just say that to lift my ego?
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for F.

how can I find a introverted semi-autistic gf? ima guy with my life in order but i have a hard time finding good social venues meeting women that align with my taste. it was way easier when i was in uni but now I feel like its so hard to find likeminded women
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>>32187099
Well, the best way would be to test it yourself, no? When you have fingers inside are you able to squeeze them with your pelvic muscles, is there resistance? If so I'd define that as tightness. And if not, well, kegels do wonders in that regard, I've heard.
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>>32185689
Male. Yes, a few times.

>>32186286
Could be a cultural gap. As the other anon said, with nothing comes nothing to worry about.
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>>32185689
Yes
>>32186502
It's up to you. If you don't want any kids just don't have any kids. But don't become one of those people who feel smug about not having kids/hate people who do, because that will annoy others and make you miserable. And be aware that if you wait too long, it will be too late to change your mind.
>>32186724
I don't get it. You complained ITT about girls your age having a high bodycount, but you're constantly asking for advice with different women whose numbers you got. And you expect the presumably conservative christian girl to put out on the first date and dislike that she wants to get to know you a bit before meeting? Sounds a lot like you're trying for casual sex, but that would make you a hypocrite. And you're worried you'll "break"? Wtf does that even mean?
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I have a gf. The matter is she's a bit too chubby and doesn't want to improve.

All my gfs were chubbies, and I have strong desire to try skinny girls. I can't die without trying sex with skinny girls. But I don't want to cheat

Well, I just needed some place to get it off the chest
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>>32187245

If it bothers you so much (which I personally understand to a great degree), break up with her.
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Asking women, or another man who has been in this exact situation.

I met this girl and flirted with her a lot and she liked it, but I ended up turning her down for someone else.

That was 6 months ago. We run in the same circles, so I would still see her sometimes and she would be cold to me and neg me and do other weird incel stuff because I rejected her.

Now, I am single again and I want to get with her. Should I do anything differently to get her this time, or just start flirting with her again?
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>>32185564
You didn't try to get laid. Pussy doesn't just fall into your lap.
>>32185689
>have you ever shot a gun?
F
Yes, and I own several.
>>32186286
>Do I say anything about it to her?
Dating and courtship is different in China. Most don't get physical after the first date. This is definitely something you should bring up to get her input.
>>32186502
>Is there actually anything wrong with choosing a childfree by choice lifestyle?
No, as long as you don't shame people for having kids and don't end up a bitter old asshole.
>>32186724
>am I wrong to think that she'll put out on the first date?
She won't. And if you hope that she does, I hope your penis explodes.
>>32187102
When did autism become a desirable trait?
>>32187245
Make her lose weight.
>>32187427
Most people don't like being someone's second choice. In her eyes, you betrayed her and will have to work to get her to trust you again.
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>>32186428
If you’re working out for general fitness then both are fine. If you’re working out to try to get curves then your routine and diet are hindering you. You have to build muscle if you want the kind of curves you want.

Your diet should be 2:3:1 protein:carbs:fat and you have to eat enough calories. Onions milk, nut butters, quinoa, oats, beans or lentils, and tofu are your best protein sources.

You need to go to the weight section. You can do everything you need to with dumbbells, but you have to use heavier dumbbells. A good five day routine would be to do lower body, upper body, pilates, lower body, upper body. Especially for lower body days, focus on compound lifts that engage multiple muscle groups. Squats and deadlifts are both good. Use heavier weight and a lower number of reps. Finishing with cardio like you are doing with the stair machine is good, too.

I do a three day split. I superset two pairs of complementary exercises and always end with a body weight exercise. I usually end with a run or a stationary bicycle depending on the weather and how motivated I feel. I wish my gym had a pool. Mine’s just an example, not a recommendation.

Day 1:
squats x standing leg curls
deadlift x dumbbell lunges
leg press x dumbbell steppers
crunches x hanging leg raises

Day 2:
bench press x around the worlds
shoulder press x dumbbell kickbacks
french press x triceps pulldowns
push-ups

Day 3:
pull ups x dumbbell curls
cable rows x cable pulldowns
barbell curls x dumbbell rows
planks
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>>32187881
Onions milk…4chan please.

>>32185689
Yes, my dad has a bunch and he gave me one went I left for college.
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>>32186286
I think Chinese are, in general, culturally slower to start the physical part of a relationship. It can’t hurt to ask her how she feels.

>>32186502
Fundamentally yes, but it’s your choice.

>>32186724
You disgust me.

>>32187102
You’ll have trouble because we barely go out and you barely go out. That limits the opportunities to meet.

>>32187245
Don’t cheat.

>>32187427
You probably missed your chance.
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>>32185305
>Mfw
Saved. This makes me happier than it should.
>It is like women become invisible after they turn 36 and even more so after 40
Honestly, it's a bit earlier than that; 33 is fucking ancient for a woman who expects to be considered as wife material.
>You can be hot AF
Not at 40, lmao.
>have a great career
I don't care. I'm not looking for a business partner, I'm looking for a wife.
>have travelled the world
A history of spending the odd week or two abroad drinking wine, taking selfies in front of landmarks, and fucking randos isn't the flex so many women seem to think it is.
>It's exhausting and eye-roll worthy
You can roll your eyes all you want, we don't care. That's kind of the point.
>Women should be just as wanted in their 40s as men; but we simply aren't
Men should be just as wanted when they're broke AF, without a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of, as when they're winning at life; but they simply aren't.
>Our whole society is geared towards holding up youth and beauty for women
Our whole society is based around coddling your egos, validating your self-concept, and absolving you from the consequences of your own bad decisions. Women are free to do whatever they want. That's how it should be. That said, make no mistake; your window for being considered for an LTR by the type of man most women think they're worthy of peaks in your early 20s and rapidly closes thereafter. You cannot wait until your 30s and expect to compete with barely legal ass with no baggage. "I'm ready to settle down" has became a literal meme. There's a drinking game, FFS.
>when in reality we're in our prime
No.

I want to stress I'm not talking about a woman's worth as a human being, or as a professional or academic, or as a friend, but purely as a prospect for an LTR with a dude who has options. I'm sure some of the femanons ITT are reading this and malding, but that won't make it any less true, and it's only going to get worse.
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>>32187904
>You disgust me.
Thank you

>>32187102
They're on social media or dating apps with a meme or cartoon profile picture. It's a crapshoot but it's possible. Autistic girls don't put their pictures on sm because they know they look awkward.
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>>32187153
You made me laugh out loud
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>>32187954
>A history of spending the odd week or two abroad drinking wine, taking selfies in front of landmarks, and fucking randos isn't the flex so many women seem to think it is.
Why do anons think this is so common? It's a very specific scenario. Was it on a Netflix show or something?
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>>32183454
The problem with "curvy" is it's become a common word for whales to use when referring to themselves.

>>32186724
She's trying to get to know you as a person. I don't think she'll respond favorably to fuckboi shit on this first date. Or first month.

>>32188007
>Why do anons think this is so common
Because it is. Check out the social media of women in their 20s. You will notice patterns.
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>>32188046
Hm, I’ll take your word for it. I don’t think social media is a very accurate gauge of what people do while traveling. I’ve heard guys say this before, and they only think that because they scroll past anything that isn’t bikini pics.
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>>32157692
Good news, im not fired yet

Bad news
My favorite coworker is about to leave. She’s pretty cool and we talk a lot on our shifts together. I kinda have a crush on her but kinda think I have no shot because we don’t know each other very well. I have her Snapchat but she doesn’t check it that often. Maybe we could hang outside of work but if not it’s gonna suck a lot because she was nice. :(
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>>32168466
>What language do you want to learn?
Cherokee / Tsalagi. I know a few words here and there, and know how to pronounce the letters, but that's pretty much it.

>>32164320
Lots. I want every kid to have a brother and a sister, so that would be minimum 2 of each.

>>32157821
>What physical features are you attracted to the most in the opposite sex?
I'd say eyes. Those always catch my eye first. They're windows to the soul, as they say.

>>32185689
>Both genders, have you ever shot a gun?
Yup, I have a couple of handguns in the safe, and a shotgun at my parents place. Thanks for the reminder, I should probably disassemble and clean it / re-oil it. It's been put away for a long time at this point. I haven't shot it since I last cleaned it, so it shouldn't be dirty, just a good idea to keep up on its maintenance is all.
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F 18

>>32157821
sounds cliche but i honestly care more about personality. never been in a relationship, why would i be picky LOL but if i have to pick something .. i rly like when guys have a "dad bod" but still have a bit of muscle

>>32157893
hard question, i think the biggest problem for both women and men nowadays are things like social media + porn giving people brainrot n degrading their values

>>32158281
i would like to feel cared for. another value in a man that's very important to me is the ability to be emotionally vulnerable and caring

>>32158532
don't care as long as it's not extremely disfigured. never rly seen a picture of a penis and thought "ew". although the ideal penis (to me) is clean, hygienic, n the hair is trimmed

>>32159039
depends if your eventual partner has a matching libido. it's not necessarily a deal-breaker

>>32160081
the bar is pretty low nowadays, at least for me. so may guys are either coomers or rude, so just being kind would instantly make me pay more attention to somebody.

>>32161756
> what do you wish boys would say to you more often?
they don't talk to me in the first place

>>32162186
as for games i like doom n also anything creative like minecraft or the sims ! for the playground, usually i'd act out stories i made up usually around stuff i was into (anime, video games, books)

>>32162287
low t

>>32163525
yes, as long as you don't have a horrible jaw (most people don't) it's all good

>>32168466
japanese or chinese. maybe korean or russian because their writing systems fascinate me

>>32175812
i PROMISE you , you look totally fine.take it from another F who used to struggle w/ the exact same insecurity. masturbating won't change the apperance of your labia, don't worry. i use the estrid razor, works rly well. oh, and i usually trim areas that chafe (butt n inner thighs) n that helps reduce bumps
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>>32187829
>Most people don't like being someone's second choice. In her eyes, you betrayed her and will have to work to get her to trust you again.
>>32187904
>You probably missed your chance
Noted, but it's not stopping me. gotta shoot my shot.
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>>32188063
>I don't think social media is a very accurate gauge of what people do while traveling
Pic related. I travel a lot. I honestly feel the only reason most western women travel is to take pictures of themselves traveling. Don't get me wrong, there's a big difference between the type of girl who has spent a year or more living outside of the anglosphere, and the typical female whose entire identity is based around clout, whose definition of "travel" is "go to a place for a week, visit landmarks, stand in lines, drink heavily, fuck locals."
>they only think that because they scroll past anything that isn't bikini pics
Interesting that you think that.

>>32188078
Ask her out. Seriously, just do it. The worst thing that can happen is she says no.

>>32186502
It's not wrong, it's just weak. It's choosing the extinction of your bloodline, it's choosing to surrender the battle to exist that your ancestors have been fighting for aeons, but it's your life so you do you, queen. Are you accomplishing anything of consequence while you're here, or are you just getting your dopamine fix, consooming product while being excited for next product, until it's all over?

Not having kids is unthinkable to me, but family in general is very important to me, and I realize a lot of people don't really have families these days.
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>>32187904
>Don’t cheat.

I won't. No one deserves to get cheated on, especially good people

I even feel like an animal thinking about such things
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>>32175952
Dude here
Dated exclusively older when I was younger, I always appreciated the experience.
I started when 20 and dating a 36 year old.
Oldest I've dated was 47 when I was 24.

I'm now 38, and young girls hit me up more than older girls, so just going with the flow. 19 was the youngest, so all above board.

Do what feels right.
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>>32175952
I would date up, but dating too far down gets a little iffy. About 5 years down, 10 years up for me.

So if I'm 25 ill date between 20 and 35.
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>>32175950
Guys do, but often times a guy dosent wanna just outright say it for fear of rejection and/or ridicule.

However, signs to look for are more offensive or less socially acceptable jokes. When a guy feels relaxed around you he might drop that filter like he would with The Boys™.

Yes! Approach us, we love it. Quiet, subtle, quick. Ask them out and if its a yes, you got a date. If its a no, then neither side has to make a show of it and it saves stress on both ends.

Also, compliment the guy you're interested in. Not mundane "nice shoes", but something you genuinely admire. It goes a long way.
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>>32175950
Only shy loser types do that, I'll be honest.
It's childish behavior and as soon as you realize it's either being upfront about liking her or nothing you grow out of it.
You can't tell whether he likes you or not. You need to try and find out. Welcome to being a dude.
You can drop hints about doing nothing this weekend in a conversation that involves expressions of attraction in some way.
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>>32187102
There's more autistic men than women and autism is expressed differently in women. Usually guys check out of social situations, women put on a mask, resembling BPD. If you want an autistic girl, look for anime, geeky shit, STEM, erotic fiction, tumblr, MLP, Disney, furries, video games and toy collecting or something. If she's above 18 and interested in Hello Kitty as a "ironic" and "nostalgic" thing, she's autistic. Look for unnatural hair colour, tattoos, awkward and nervous, HIGH pitch (dead giveaway), clothes that hide her body, may or may not give you uncomfortable looks because she tends to avoid talking to all men.
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>>32189240
Lots of autistic women are unsure of their femininity when young and feel uncomfortable with sexuality, leading them to be puritanical. This later blows up miserably.
She may be a man-hating enby who's frustrated by being ordered around and is resentful but also secretly likes it sexually, or that resentment has grown and blown up, turning her into a hedonist who loves the unconventional, so she retains the geeky side but is also an irritable slut.
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>>32157692
A lot of men are sad they aren’t in relationships. There’s gotta be about the same amount of women sad they aren’t in relationships too right? Why do they seem so rare in comparison?
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>>32189240
What you're essentially saying is that every girl >18 with social anxiety has autism? When did we start to use that term so loosely exactly...you understand it's not a badge of honour ffs. you're talking shit, go touch some grass
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>>32189264
>There’s gotta be about the same amount of women sad they aren’t in relationships too right?
I think they are, it's just in a different way than us. The dating game works in different ways for each side, after all.
For men, finding someone to date is the hard part, but most of the options are at least decent ones. For women, there are plenty of men to choose from, but most of the options are bad ones; guys just looking for a one night stand, abusive guys, etc. So for men a lack of relationships would manifest as a sort of grim desperation, while for women it'd seem more like a fatigue.
It's the fault of societal teachings, I think. It inexplicably pushes men to believe that "getting laid" is "the goal" and thus a disproportionate number of us only care about that. The actual relationship involved with that is up in the air, and for many a lower priority. Not to mention we're pushed to be emotionally distant at best. Imagine how tiring it must be to date that.
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/adv/ jannie hates me and wants me stuck in this hellhole where I am allowed to post pics of my body but no woman will ever see them and instead the faggots who whine when I tell them to work out will
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>>32189264
We hear the most complaints from our own gender, I think. My female friends talk a lot about being lonely, but the men I know haven’t brought up the topic around me, even though I know some must feel the same way.

>>32189965
Women do see pics posted here, for better or worse…
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>>32189264
>There’s gotta be about the same amount of women sad they aren’t in relationships too right?
There doesn't though?
>inb4 why not
I'm sure you can think of a few reasons.

>Why do they seem so rare in comparison?
Above point aside, it's probably multiple reasons. One would be shame; A man not getting a date is seen as shameful. A woman not getting a date is probably seen as even more shameful. Could also be they are not interested or are in a friend group/culture that tells them they don't need or should care about a partner. Could be that they feel they have plenty of options so they don't feel the need to "settle down" yet, or they want to focus on their career first. There are also women talking about how they can't find a date, but these tend to be speaking from the position of "I can't find anyone good enough" rather than the male position of "I can't find anyone".
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>>32192338
Can't say I do, no. Eating with a girl is enjoyable, but not just watching it. In fact, hearing chewing noises can make me uncomfortable.
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>>32192338
It’s nice to eat with someone but just watching isn’t my thing
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>>32188435
>I'm now 38, and young girls hit me up more than older girls, so just going with the flow. 19 was the youngest, so all above board.

Being in your 30s and still being able to attract university students if fuckin' awesome, isn't it.

>>32190149
Despite the era of the "new man", men are just more inclined to be stoic about it. Plus, it's also an unwritten rule to never let women see you vulnerable.

>>32189327
>It's the fault of societal teachings, I think. It inexplicably pushes men to believe that "getting laid" is "the goal" and thus a disproportionate number of us only care about that.
It is practically the only facet of masculinity that society at large encourages you to have.

>>32192338
In a roundabout way, yes? I like cooking. Within my social circles, I'm also rather well known for my skill with French patisserie; so seeing people enjoy your food is a rather pleasing experience.
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Femanons, what are your thoughts or preferences on dating a lawyer, tech worker, or a guy with an average job, all else equal?

I'm currently deciding my career and I'd be lying if I said how it affects my romantic success isn't a factor that's being heavily considered, as I'm 25, a virgin, and never had a gf. I'm not good looking and am pretty neurotic despite taking care of myself physically and mentally as best I can. So, I figure I need something else to finally get a gf. Please do not patronize me or give me idyllic speech, I am 25 and a virgin who has never had a gf despite my best efforts. I want to cut to the bone of what my best options are in terms of what I can change that I'm not doing already.
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>>32192723
Sorry, I know you were asking femanons, but M here about 10 years older than you.

For the love of God you need to get over this notion that women matter in terms of your life goals. I made that mistake once and fortunately have realized it's more important to go for a job that pays well and allows you to do the things you want to do in your life. If you find love, good, but you should prioritize goals that will build you up professionally and financially, and not worry about what women will like.
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>>32192723
>lawyer
Good stuff, I'm a law nerd myself, we can geek out over courtroom transcripts.
>tech worker
I don't know much about this, so I worry I wouldn't be able to relate to your work.
>average job
Totally fine.
You should totally go to law school.
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>>32192338
Yes, I like seeing women
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>>32189250
>Lots of autistic women are unsure of their femininity when young and feel uncomfortable with sexuality, leading them to be puritanical. This later blows up miserably.
Into transitioning.
So far I'm 0-5 on trans autistics.
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>>32192723
First, and foremost, as another M with about ten years on you, I cannot second the everloving fuck out of
>>32192864
what this anon has to say, enough.

I will die on this hill: the single best way to "get girls" is to stop caring about getting girls. The pursuit of women as a goal in and of itself is folly. Focus on yourself and the pursuit of your purpose, and I promise you women will not be an issue. I can elaborate on the "why" of all of this if you'd like, but the tl;dr of it this: if you live your life in a way that makes you happy, people (women included) will want to share in that happiness.

All that said, of the career paths you mentioned, lawyer is fine if you have a genuine passion for it; litigation is tiresome for most people, and I struggle to think of a branch of law that doesn't involve interacting with other people and dealing with their bullshit, nonstop. But hey, the money can be good and the title carries some clout. If that sounds like your thing, go off, bro.

Tech worker is a very broad qualifier, but if you don't mind having to live on the west coast (lots to do, god-tier national parks, but cost of living is obscene, and the politics are inescapable) to find the best jobs, and again, have a passion for it, it's a fine way to make a living with a lot of options. I also have to give this path bonus points, simply because women tend to talk mad shit about "tech bros" yet they can't stop fucking tech bros.

"Average job" just reads to me as "path of least resistance, no ambition, cooming and consooming through life if I can find a woman who will tolerate me." Pass. Figure out what you're passionate about and then figure out how to make big dick money by doing it, bro.
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For F

I'm male and this girl sent me a pic of her face(we only know each other online)
I'm this same guy and is the same girl >>32163304 >>32163376 >>32163376 >>32163571 >>32165152 (ignore ID, dynamic IP)

She sent me this pic meanwhile she was sharing with me something deep about her childhood.
Time ago she asked for my real name and I told her but when I asked the same she never did, and when I asked about why she wanted know my real name she just told me "to feel closer".
Now I asked why she sent me this pic of her face and she just told me "nah, i want you ponder about it"

What does this mean?
Why she sent me a pic of her face but didn't want share her name in the first place?
Being honest I have no idea if it's really she in that pic(it was cropped) but it was a pic from phone.
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>>32157692
Both genders,
Do you watch anime? What about other tv shows? If so which ones?

Finally checking out chainsaw man and it’s got a lot of titty for a series about fighting demons
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>>32194733
>Do you watch anime?
Tons. Right now I'm actively watching Vinland Saga, Oshi no Ko, Dr. Stone, Heavenly Delusion, and Demon Slayer. The quality of this anime season is kinda nuts, two of these are probably going to make it onto my favorites list, while one was already there. I also plan to binge watch Ousama Ranking S2 once all of the episodes are out. Was watching Hell's Paradise but I may drop it.
>What about other tv shows?
Not often. The most recent one I watched was Arcane, which ended up being my favorite TV show.
>checking out chainsaw man and it’s got a lot of titty for a series about fighting demons
It's what a story naturally gets when the main character is a deprived teenage boy, I suppose.
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>>32194359
The girl you're talking to is Forrest Gump? I am impressed
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>>32192338
Not particularly. If anything, I hate seeing a large chunk of people eat because of the mouth noises and lack of table manners. If she's got good table manners and seems to be enjoying her food and can discuss why she likes it, then sure I guess. If I'm just watching a chick silently eat chips I don't really give a fuck. It's fun watching my girl eat stuff I've cooked to see her reaction to my cooking

>>32194733
Yes to anime and occasionally yes to other TV shows. Currently I'm watching oshi no ko and Vinland saga occasionally, both of which are pretty damn good. I frequently return to it's always sunny to watch and unwind, my friends have been trying to get me into curb your enthusiasm but I hate it. Chainsaw man I enjoyed, I started watching it but then I just switched over to reading it and now I read it as it's updated
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>>32194359
This seems really weird to me, like she's playing games. You gave your name, but she gave a face pic in return? Openly saying "I want you to ponder about it?" Maybe I'm just impatient, but I don't like games like that. And yeah, I suppose you can't 100% trust if the pic is really her. Just weird all around.

>>32194733
>anime
Weeb rambling incoming
https://voca.ro/17iLABCa8rdB
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>>32194862
Oshi no Ko is sooo good. It's written by the author of my favorite anime, I should've known it'd be amazing.

>>32194880
Great taste.
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>>32194890
>>32194880
https://voca.ro/1avPQ3y3hNHd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzSfnMp_DTs
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>>32194929
The OP is incredible! Not just the visuals and music but the lyrics as well. Might be one of the best OPs I've seen.
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>>32194880
Are you a girl? If yes, do you women do often act in this mysterious way or am i just a retard that is not understandanding the signs of this girl? Why she wanted i ponder about it?
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>>32194359
You are 1000000000000% being catfished/BPDd. Get out. Trust me.
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>>32195169
BPDd?
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>>32194934
Thanks for sparking my interest in that post
>>32194929
And thanks for posting this, that artist has awesome anime ops. I don't often find music I like
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>>32195204
No problem! Glad you enjoyed. Careful not to spoil though, never know who around here might start watching too!
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>>32195204
Glad you liked it anon, I also like this cover of his a lot too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cp8laD5njk
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What gender are you and what do you think is your most defining personality trait? Elaborate on why if you're willing. For me it's curiosity, it drives all my varied interests and many of my desires. I just want to know everything, I want to know how everything tastes how it sounds how it feels etc etc
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>>32194890
It is pretty great.

>>32194929
Pfft, that story is hilarious.

>>32195160
Yes, but it doesn't make sense to me either :/
I don't have a better explanation than "she just felt like messing with you", unfortunately.

>>32195663
F
Hm... maybe resilience?
I think I can handle anything life throws at me. I've been to a lot of funerals, broken a lot of bones, and been emotionally desensitized by 4chan, which is unironically important. I'm small but tough.
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>>32195663
M
I'd probably go with my positivity. Apparently being shoulder-deep in depression for many years caused my brain to do a complete 180 on optimism. I don't know how that happened, but it's surely the only reason I'm still kicking. Extreme mental states can result in extreme mental flips, I suppose.
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>>32196116
>Yes, but it doesn't make sense to me either :/
>I don't have a better explanation than "she just felt like messing with you", unfortunately.

When she sent me this pic she was a bit agitated and when i tried to calm down her she start to believe that I was attacking her so she went straight to my jugular. Next day she realized that she wen full retard mode. She never deleted this photo. I asked her about why she posted this pic and she just ignored the question, just until the second time was when she told me about the ponder thing.

What I should answer to this discord girl about the ponder thing?
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>>32196950
>She was a bit agitated so I tried to calm her down and she became more insufferable

Delete her immediately. She's either another hysterical female or a catfish. Never waste your time or emotions on anyone who acts the way you're describing her.
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>>32197006
>Never waste your time or emotions on anyone who acts the way you're describing her.
Why not? I mean she has helped me a lot hearing my issues and we emotionally support each other.

Yeah, she has inner demons like anybody else, but if I stop interact with her right when she shows me her worst side, wouldn't that make me a coward? abandon her right where she needs me more? (she is going through a lot pression with her new job and an illness with no cure that just a year ago was diagnosed) Because when I shared with her my inner demons she didn't ghosted me, she was there to support me.

Also:
I don't want be sexist, but c'mon, is well known that women have this tendency to be more emotional than men.
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>>32197031
There is nothing wrong with someone having to vent sometimes or mutually supporting each other. But you made it sound like she was being overly hostile towards you and not giving you a direct answer about the picture, basically leading you on and giving vague, confusing signs that you're spending more time and emotional energy trying to ponder than necessary.

If you feel that strongly about it then don't delete her, but approach her with fair weather indifference, that's the only way to avoid the emotional roller coaster in these situations. You shouldn't be concerned enough to ask for advice (especially on 4chan) over a simple online communication with someone you've never even met.
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>>32194359
Ya dun been caught up in a genjutsu, anon. On you feet soldier! WE! ARE! LEAVING! (Seriously lose "her" number and never look back.)

>>32195193
>BPDd?
Pic related. I would strongly advise avoiding relationships with people who have it, unless they are properly medicated and get regular counseling. Even then, proceed with extreme caution.

>>32195663
M, DETERMINATION. I am utterly implacable once I've settled on an idea, task, or goal.

>>32196139
I feel this.

>>32197006
THIS. Also, Occam's fucking razor.

>>32197031
>and we emotionally support each other
Except for right now, and the numerous other times she's been on her bullshit.
>Yeah, she has inner demons like anybody else
Some people have more demons, and are more ruled by those demons, than others.
>but if I stop interact with her right when she shows me her worst side, wouldn't that make me a coward
No, that would make you someone with self-respect and boundaries. "He only hit me once!" There are plenty of people out there, waiting to come into your life, who *don't pull this kind of shit.* You are not this person's therapist. You are not obligated to deal with their bullshit. Move on.
>she was there to support me
She was there to manipulate and make you feel beholden to "her." Move on.

>women have this tendency to be more emotional than men
Categorically false.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw24BjNsnkw
Even if it was true, the idea that "women get a pass on being insufferable cunts cuz you know how women be" is a pozzed and cucked take.
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>>32197076
>But you made it sound like she was being overly hostile towards you

In the forum where I meet her I saw her one time act exactly the same(almost writting exaclty the same words) when some troll start to talk shit about here so when she did it with me I was relaxed and I didn't reply her offenses(not insults) with other offernses.


>and not giving you a direct answer about the picture, basically leading you on and giving vague,
Are you saying that women are not like this? Always with their mysterious "signals" and then get mad because we men are not able even to realize that there's a "signal" in the first place?


>confusing signs that you're spending more time and emotional energy trying to ponder than necessary.

Being honest I didn't ponder anything. Call me a retard or just a man, but time ago when she asked for my real name(and i had no idea why she did it) i had to ask advice from women in order to know what she did mean by this, and eeyup, these women were 100% correct when I told to this discord girl that she asked for my real name "to feel closer" so with this I like think more about my theory that is just a woman sending "signals" that me as a man is not even able to see.

>If you feel that strongly about it then don't delete her, but approach her with fair weather indifference, that's the only way to avoid the emotional roller coaster in these situations. You shouldn't be concerned enough to ask for advice (especially on 4chan) over a simple online communication with someone you've never even met.
I'm just trying to understand women.

>>32197145
>Ya dun been caught up in a genjutsu, anon. On you feet soldier! WE! ARE! LEAVING! (Seriously lose "her" number and never look back.)

>Pic related. I would strongly advise avoiding relationships with people who have it, unless they are properly medicated and get regular counseling. Even then, proceed with extreme caution.
HAve you ever have a relation with a girl with BPDd?
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>>32197145
>Except for right now, and the numerous other times she's been on her bullshit.
I don't want be sexist but im sure that like 80% of all women have the mind and emotions of a child

Also isn't something mature understand her eruption of rage due the pression about her job and her dissease? I didn't reply her rage with more rage.

>Some people have more demons, and are more ruled by those demons, than others.
She only needs a lot love.

>No, that would make you someone with self-respect and boundaries. "He only hit me once!" There are plenty of people out there, waiting to come into your life, who *don't pull this kind of shit.* You are not this person's therapist. You are not obligated to deal with their bullshit. Move on
Again, i think that women are more emotional than men. Really, i grew up with several women and i can confirm it(remember that they must deal with menstruation).

>She was there to manipulate and make you feel beholden to "her." Move on.
The one who start with "let's share feelings" it was me, not her.

>Categorically false.
Dude women have shit in their heads(really no offense femanons!)
You can see these girls preferring dating with someone that treats them like shit than a good man that will treats them like a queen.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw24BjNsnkw
Yes, i own guns, how did you know it?

Relation with my mom it was not the best since my teenages so i have learned to don't give a shit about these "female rage" eruption. Would you get angry with a little child for a tantrum?

>Even if it was true, the idea that "women get a pass on being insufferable cunts cuz you know how women be" is a pozzed and cucked take
Again they have the mindset of a child. That's why we live in a society where a drunk woman can't consent but a man can.
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>>32192338
yes, but only if she's eating another girl
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>>32197200
>>32197252
>HAve you ever have a relation with a girl with BPDd?
Are you from Kazakhstan? Anyway, yes I have, I got that t-shirt twice, when I should have learned the first time. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid...

Avoid.

>>32197252
>im sure that like 80% of all women have the mind and emotions of a child
Women stop emotionally maturing around 16. They then proceed to become increasingly solipsistic, which they point to as evidence of their supposed greater emotional intelligence. The comparison to a child is apt, and much like when dealing with a child, you want to operate in very simple terms of positive and negative reinforcement. Reward behavior you like with affection and attention, punish undesirable behavior with cold indifference.

>(and i had no idea why she did it)
My money is on stalking and blackmail, but I guess we'll find out.

>I'm just trying to understand women
There's nothing to understand, beyond that their concept of morality is inextricably tied to their self-interest, once you understand this women will never surprise you, so long as you're honest with yourself.

>She only needs a lot love
Then she should act in a way that earns it. Again, do not reward undesirable behavior.

>The one who start with "let's share feelings" it was me, not her
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of opportunism?

>You can see these girls preferring dating with someone that treats them like shit than a good man that will treats them like a queen
Yes, they prefer assholes in control of their frame rather than dickless simps whose attention and affections are unconditional, and have no correlation to their good behavior, or lack thereof. *I have been trying to tell you this.*

>"female rage"
My point in linking that clip is this; women are constantly acting on their emotions because society enables them to do so; just because men are expected to be in control of ourselves doesn't mean we are any less emotional, or experience emotions less powerfully. QED; you're here.
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>>32197446
>Are you from Kazakhstan?
Uh no. Why are asking that?

Can you please tell me more about these two previous relations yours?

>My money is on stalking and blackmail, but I guess we'll find out.
What do you mean?
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>>32197446
>The comparison to a child is apt, and much like when dealing with a child, you want to operate in very simple terms of positive and negative reinforcement. Reward behavior you like with affection and attention, punish undesirable behavior with cold indifference

Did this worked even with your BPDd relations?
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>>32197586
>Why are you asking that?
Because you're ESL as fuck; I'm reading your posts in Borat's voice. Not a bad thing, just saying.

>Can you please tell me more
No.

>What do you mean
I mean you're still assuming, despite the fact that you gave her your real name, i.e. a genuine display of trust, and "she" did not reciprocate, on top of the pic you got of "her" being suspect as fuck, on top of the fact you've never met them in person, that this person is exactly who they say they are.

I, and other anons, aren't convinced, for very good reasons. It's concerning, to put it mildly, that you're so trusting.

From where I'm standing, I'm inclined to believe that this person is, at best, using you as a diversion, and completely indifferent to how you may feel. There's also the possibility they're collecting information/leverage on you to hurt or control you.

I think you should cease contact. I also highly doubt you have the sense to listen to that advice. So, failing that, I encourage you to respectfully but assertively ask they give what you've given, because even if this person is who they say they are, this "relationship" has been extremely one-sided. As long you continue to rationalize why you should eat the bullshit, I promise you they're happy to continue feeding it to you.

>>32197619
As much as anything, short of mind-altering drugs and intensive therapy can "work" on a crazy person, sure. Bitches with BPD tend go waaay beyond being "extra." There's very few lines they won't cross when they've convinced themselves they're justified, which isn't hard for them to do. The first BPD woman I dated, in no particular order,
>Put Nair in my shampoo because she thought I was cheating on her
>Poked holes in condoms because she wanted to hit me with the baby trap
>Threatened to falsely accuse me of rape after I broke up with her
>Contacted girls I was dating/hooking up with via social media to "warn" them about me for *years* thereafter
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>>32197619
I don't have any knee-slappers to tell about the second BPD chick because by then I knew the signs, and ended it early and decisively. Nowadays I can just feel it on a woman after about five minutes of interaction, and know to stay away.

Anon, you're kind of worrying me, because your response to myself and others warning you of the life-destroying potential of BPD women isn't "thanks for the heads up, I'll stay away" it's "sooooo... assuming someone wanted to try and make it work with a woman with BPD anyway, do you have any advice? Asking for a friend."

If you feel like she's special, she isn't. If you feel like she's your only option, well then you're getting ahead of yourself, you need to fix your own shit before you worry about dating.
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seen a lot of text threads that end in sex, not sure what to make of them

funny joke back and forth -> woman visits -> sex? feels like a non sequitur. what do you even say when you get to the guy's place? walk in, pants down, "hey tell another joke while i suck you off" ???
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>>32197701
>Because you're ESL as fuck; I'm reading your posts in Borat's voice. Not a bad thing, just saying.
Yeah sorry, at least people can understand me, right?

>I, and other anons, aren't convinced, for very good reasons. It's concerning, to put it mildly, that you're so trusting
Yeah, i have never dated a girl :(

>Put Nair in my shampoo because she thought I was cheating on her
Lmao, did you get bald?

Please tell me that sex was at least good.

>>32197717
This girl has not BP. She is just having a bad time.
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>>32194733
Male.

Not so much anymore, but used to love it. Outlaw Star was always a favourite of mine. We also have time for the musical ones like K-On, Beck, Bocchi the Rock; and I'm also quite fond of innocuous love stories like Ore Monogatari.

Don't really watch other telly at all. Don't have a telly, or a Jewflix subscription. Think the last series I watched was The Young Pope. Quite good.

>>32195663
I'm a quick thinker. Very easy for me to adapt and roll with the punches. Other than that, I think it's fair to say that most people would consider me rather witty.

>>32197348
Ha!
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Question for all:
I'm a woman in my 20's from Eastern Europe and have had considerably better luck dating older men, between 35 and 45 (both my parents and grandparents have age gaps of around 10 years, so this is simply normal to me).
They're smoother, have deep voices, they're more confident, independent and honest, all of which is very attractive to me. However, there is also a proportion of men in this age range that simply look at women my age as a sex object and aren't interested in me as a person. I would like to have a family a couple of years from now and I'm looking for a possible father of my children. I don't want to waste my time or have my heart broken.
Do you have any tips for avoiding these sleazy men?
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>>32198024
They'll keep using you as a sex object as long as you continue being an easy slut.
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>>32197905
>at least people can understand me, right?
I think so.

>Lmao
Fuck you. It wasn't funny.
>did you get bald
No, Nair has a very distinct smell, I recognized it immediately, and confronted her about it.

>Please tell me that the sex was at least good
Crazy pussy is the best pussy there is.

>This girl has not BP
That's kind of funny, because the way you're describing her is exactly how a BPD person acts.

>>32198024
I can help. In you own words, what do you have to offer the kind of man you're looking for?
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>>32195663
The ability to completely focus on something and devote all of my time and effort to it when it's needed or when I want to.
>>32197905
>at least people can understand me, right?
Yes, but between the ESL, your topic of choice, and the persistence, I am picturing a stereotypical "post bob show vagene" Indian
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>>32198080
>Fuck you. It wasn't funny
Imagine if instead that she would have added tabasco sauce into the hand lotion bottle that you use to jerk off. Do you still having her discord?

>Nair has a very distinct smell
How you know that?

>Crazy pussy is the best pussy there is.
Literally a semen demon, right? Did you were able to satisfy her? How often you had sex? Daily?

>That's kind of funny, because the way you're describing her is exactly how a BPD person acts
She is just depressed and under a lot pression
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>>32198151
people says that i must improve my gramma and nope, im not indian, just an innocent young man
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Why does it have to be so hard to meet people, especially women?
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>>32198806
The world is a dangerous place, and meeting strangers can be risky if they aren't vetted.
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i am a sort of scary looking big bearded dude but i'm not necessarily ugly, how do i approach women without them immediately feeling like i'm a threat lmao

i think i'm generally conventionally attractive (full head of hair, hygenic, deep voice, dad bod but i lift) if that helps at all but i still feel weird about it
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>>32157692

M specifically cis bottom/sub M

>what do you want your cis f partner to do if you want her to top/dom you? like foreplay, in bed, etc
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>>32198885
No experience, so take my answer with a grain of salt.
I personally like the idea of being a tool of her pleasure. To be controlled, commanded, praised, and enjoyed. Oral is a big deal to me, both giving and receiving, so I imagine it would be a big part of the equation. Also really like positions where she's on top or otherwise has a lot of control over the pace.
In addition, something I really enjoy both in and out of sexual contexts is teasing. Not like humiliation / shaming, just playful stuff, perhaps enticing if the mood calls for it.
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>>32198865
I know, but I hate it. I just want someone to love. This sucks.
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>>32199125
I think you should focus on your own happiness, anon. If you can't be happy without someone else, that's a problem. It will make you overly clingy if you do get in a relationship, and more likely to stay in a bad relationship. But if you focus on just being happy as you are now, you'll find that others are attracted to that, and want to be a part of it.
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>>32199132
Outwardly I'm usually pretty happy. I have no problem getting along with people and most people I do meet like to be around me, but the problem is I don't get out much and don't meet new people very often. I also have no problem ditching or cutting off people who mistreat me, so while I might be prone to falling head over heels for someone, I don't think I'd stay in a bad relationship.
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>>32199138
Well that's good. Just try to be more optimistic, and maybe pick up some hobbies that get you outside more. Like if you enjoy reading, maybe you could visit a local library.
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>>32198080
I think I'm fairly intelligent and self-aware, so I can catch myself when I'm having an unjustified reaction, and I can admit my faults or when I've been proven wrong. Career-wise, I don't have much, and I don't have much life experience. I'm essentially just modest/flexible and look good.

I have been able to have solid conversations with them and make them laugh, but the lack of life experience shows and sometimes they fall flat. I'm also not as tactful as I should be with some subjects (his diminished sex life, alcohol usage, family life or exes), but it's never out of malice.
I don't support gender roles, but I do love cooking and cleaning and especially love being "useful" to my partner and seeing the satisfied reaction when I take care of him. I'm technically close to the "tradwife" stereotype, but I only date men who are feminists, so one of them was actually kind of disturbed, hearing these things.

I also don't require much attention, and probably the highest compliment I've been told is that I'm "not a young cunt" (he used that term to refer to narcissistic, dumb young people). I feel like I'm often close to being an equal, but it's difficult, because I'm just not as smart or funny.
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>>32188435
>>32188445
Different people like different things when it comes to age preference or lack thereof. That’s what it really comes down to.

>>32189240
>>32189250
These posts are incredibly dumb. None of those are signs of autism in women. You’ve never met a broken, boy-brained, probably on the spectrum girl before.

>>32189264
You probably just never hear us talk about it.

>>32189281
Thank you.

>>32189965
We see. And it’s not good.

>>32190149
This mostly.

>>32192338
Gross.

>>32189327
Let’s be honest. Most of guy’s dating options are just as bad. You guys put up with far too much crazy bitch stuff just to avoid being alone.

>>32192723
The job doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think it does. Also if you’re relying on your job as your main selling point you’ll attract the wrong kind of woman.

>>32194359
I don’t know what’s going on but avoid her.

>>32194733
Sometimes but not often and, for the other, usually random streaming series but I don’t watch much of anything anymore. I’ll probably Google anything someone mentions that I don’t know about though so it’s a good question.

>>32195663
F, and I’d like to say something like friendliness or curiosity or intelligence, but being honest it’s bitchiness or social awkwardness or boobs or tall.
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>>32198024
I’m going to get piled on for any advice I give you. First, it’s not an age thing. Plenty of guys have that mindset if you date your own age or date younger, too. The older guys have a lot more experience doing it though and are harder to spot. Second, based on your description of why you like them, you are probably drawn to a certain type that isn’t good for you. Try to find a guy who is in the same phase of life as you despite the age difference. Maybe a guy who never married or had kids because he traveled for work a lot, NOT because he liked being single for a long time. Third, and here is where the thread will pile on, don’t rush into a relationship. Date more than one guy at a time casually and watch them carefully to get to know them as you date them. Don’t get into a relationship until you know a guy better, and if sex happens before that just treat it as sex and don’t let it get into your head.

>>32198806
Because dating in 2023 is poison.

>>32198880
Act obviously loud and friendly. The big jolly bear, and not the gay slang way, is a stereotype.

>>32198885
Gross.
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hey gals do you get more upset if you ruin a white shirt with a stain compared to another colour of shirt?
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So so so, asking a question instead of answering! I finally did something I wanted to do! I went all in on a boy cut on Friday! I wanted to get one for something like two or three years but was always too scared to do something that drastic. On Friday I finally did big time! My stylist did a number three guard around the sides and back and the top is so short I have to put gel in it and part it! It looks amazing and feels so good in the heat and it’s so easy! I love it! Also the creeps just look at me and won’t try to talk to me anymore which is pretty great. They probably think I’m a lesbian or a man hater Karen or something. There is one exception. Pretty much any guy under age 20 just blatantly walks up to me [28F] no matter where it is and starts flirting. It’s noticeably different just two days in. I don’t know if the cut makes me look really young or if a boy cut symbolizes something to zoomies and I’ve hung a big a target on myself? Does anyone know about the latter part? Is a boy cut a trend now or have any meaning?
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>>32198153
>Imagine if instead
I'd rather not. This isn't a story I shared so we could all have a good laugh about it, it's not funny at all, it's a cautionary tale.
>Do you still having her discord?
Discord wasn't a thing when I dated her. I am quite content not knowing any of her present whereabouts.
>How you know that?
...Because I have a nose that works.
>She is just depressed and under a lot of pression
Lets just assume you're right. You're not, but lets just say you are. Still doesn't excuse the way she's acting. This is how (aside from the everything else about you) I can tell you lack self-respect; if you did it wouldn't even occur to you to abide this kind of behavior. Moments of weakness? Sure. We're all human. Prolonged periods where her acting out of pocket is a matter of course? No.

>>32198166
>just an innocent young man
I get the feeling that you're more of an aspiring predator, only held back by the fact that you have zero game, don't understand women on even an elementary level, and are glowing with coombrain energy.

...Believe it or not that was like the third draft of what I wanted to say, and it's the nicest way to say it, that I could think of.
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>>32200232
theyre probably just alone and trying anything
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>>32200232
> the creeps
could girls explain this term please? is it just someone you don't like?
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>>32200213
No, but whites are harder to deal with in general.

>>32200284
I think a troll is more likely but your reply is great.

>>32200286
It’s a noticeable change. Things changed from being mostly ignored to being basically a magnet for them in two days and it has to be the cut because it started Friday afternoon when I went to HEB after my stylist.
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>>32200307
hmm maybe then, could be confirmation bias imo tho
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>>32200303
Basically it’s a guy I’m not attracted to who tries to talk to me, when I also suspect he is talking to me because he’s interested in me in some way, and there is something about him that gives me the ick.
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>>32200310
Confirmation bias in what way?
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>>32199474
>so I can catch myself when I'm having an unjustified reaction, and I can admit my faults or when I've been proven wrong
This is good.
>Career-wise, I don't have much
Beyond how a passion for it can be endearing, we don't care about your career. We don't get access to your resources, anyway.
>I don't have much life experience
>the lack of life experience shows
That's fine, we genuinely want to be your portal to the world. Being well-traveled isn't usually the flex women seem to think it is; the first thing we'll want to know is if your parents are rich, if the answer is yes, cool that explains how you had the means to travel this young, let's exchange stories and plan the next trip. However... if you're a broke college student, yet have pictures of yourself in multiple continents on the 'gram, we're going to wonder who is paying for that, and we're going to assume the answer is glucose guardians and/or onlyfans.
>I don't support gender roles
Yet you naturally gravitate towards the tradwife meme, and clearly want a man who can protect, provide, and preside. Actions speak louder than words. (There's nothing wrong with this)
>but I only date men who are feminists
Here's the thing... the man who you would consider perfect for you will very likely not self identify as a feminist. He'll respect you as a person, think of you as a friend, partner, and sanctuary, rather than an object or prize, but the politics and rhetoric simply have no place in the life of a man of action. The harsh reality is this: men who self identify as feminists are almost always weak and useless, or some the most insidious predators you'll ever meet; from what you've said, I have a feeling you've already been on the receiving end of a pump and dump from a "feminist" who said all the right things. Politics are bread and circuses, and the type of man you want understands this.
>I'm essentially jus modest/flexible and look good
This is very good.
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>>32200322
you got a haircut and now things seem different when actually they arent
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>>32157692
I’m about to go on vacation. My plane leaves in 2 hours. I’ll probably see you all next thread
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>>32199474
>>32200328
It sounds like only dating the wrong type and expanding to different types of guys will find the right one pretty easy.

>>32200332
It’s pretty different. I notice when guys talk to me and when they (usually) don’t.
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>>32200354
Where are you going?
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>>32200179
Wait, does boobs count as a personality trait? If it does, then I change my answer.

>>32200213
If I can’t clean it immediately, then yeah, I guess so. Is this really a gendered question?

>>32200232
Congrats on the new hairdo! Yeah, I suppose I do associate that style with younger people, now that I think about it. You may have turned yourself into zoomer bait, haha.

>>32200353
Ha, I guessed you were banned :P
I’m in jail here too for a few more days.

>>32200354
I haven’t been on a plane in forever. Have fun, anon.
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>>32199474
>I also don't require much attention
This is also very good, because high quality men tend to say busy. For example, my girl understands I'm not going to text or respond to texts much during the day. I'm too goddamn busy doing what needs to be done to provide the life she wants. I'll check in when I have lunch, ask about her day, but beyond that, I'm on the grind. Then I go to the gym. Then I come home and do something to decompress. On a typical weekday I have maybe two or three hours to spend time with her. That said, work/life balance is important, and when I'm "off the clock" I'm off the clock; my colleagues and partners know not to contact me after 6PM/on weekends/while I'm on vaction unless it's a legitimate emergency *that I can do something about.* Work is important, but you and life outside of work also need to be a priority.

Anyway, the best way to figure out if someone only wants you for sex is to not immediately give them sex. Prior to the first date, don't sext or send noodles. Don't offer/imply sex on the first date. First couple of dates should be "we meet at X place to do Y thing at Z time" ideally during the day. You go do the thing, have a good time, then the date is over and you'll see him again soon. He'll probably go in for a kiss no later than the 2nd date, which is fine. Pushing for sex prior to the fourth date is something I'd be wary of, but if it's not necessarily a red flag; what you're really looking for is a genuine engagement in who you are and an openness to connect. You're not looking for the absence of an interest in sex, but the presence of an interest in other things, basically.
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>>32200394
>Is this really a gendered question?
just something i saw in one of my japanese animes and wondered if the creator was a FUCKIN CHUD, i cant speak for other dudes but i dont care about stains whatsoever, squirt me with mustard all day idgaf
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>>32200444
Huh? I fuckin despise stains, how do you not care about them?

>>32200179
What kind of stuff are you curious about?

>>32200232
I see a lot of people on here bitching about not being able to find tomboys and I feel like generally younger people might have more interest in less traditional forms of gender expression. Are you happy to be drawing more of this kind of attention now?
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>>32199474
The thing about the advice I gave is, be very careful about what you disclose when it comes to your sexual history; there needs to be the implication that you don't rush into sex with anyone, and when it feels right, it'll happen. If you mention one-night stands, hookups, or a history of casual sex, you've put yourself in a difficult place, because I promise you the first thing we think is "soooo... I'm expected to wine and dine someone who has let other dudes hit it for free?" Then, with varying degrees of tact, we'll bring it up to you. Or we'll just assume you're trying to get free dinners, and bounce. Or, if he really knows what he's doing and has a petty side, he'll play it cool, and go through the motions of courting you while he pursues other options.

I guess what I'm saying is if you had a hoe phase, keep it to yourself, and definitely don't joke about it/bring it up and try to laugh it off.

>>32200192
>Third, and here is where the thread will pile on, don't rush into a relationship
No, I agree with you about this.
>Date more than one guy at a time casually and watch them carefully to get to know them as you date them
This is where you lose me. I'm not going to "pile on" but I am going to tell you point blank that high value men simply won't abide this. Why would we? If a man has options he's not going to tolerate being treated as an option.

I'm just sort of going through my own history and considering possibilities, and I just don't see myself putting any effort into, or investing any emotion into a woman who is seeing other people. Like, if she was *really hot* I could see myself gaming her at a certain point in my life, but she'd never be more than a conquest, or a plate to spin. Here's the thing about men, the more principled of us anyway: we generally let you set the tone of whatever it is we're going to be. If you invest in us, we'll invest in you. If you treat us like an option, we'll treat you like an option.
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>>32200367
Plane to Venice before going on a cruise around the Mediterranean
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>>32200394
Fug, I forgot about different IDs on mobile.

>>32200444
I don’t understand the connection at all, but I’d happily squirt you with mustard.

>>32200488
Like on a big cruise ship? That’s awesome!
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>>32200488
Goin solo? What part are you most excited for?
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>>32192864
>>32194333
Thanks, this is genuinely good advice. In the past I've gotten hung up on impossible goals, since I tend to be stubborn, this has resulted in tons of wasted energy. Definitely agree that getting girls can't be the main focus.
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>>32193334
>Good stuff, I'm a law nerd myself, we can geek out over courtroom transcripts.
Sounds fun, I am pretty interested in law I won't lie, I think it could be a fun job and most girls I've talked to seem to have at least mild interest in it even if in public people talk shit about lawyers.
>>32200179
>The job doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think it does. Also if you’re relying on your job as your main selling point you’ll attract the wrong kind of woman.
I think it totally depends on the girl, some care a lot about money and/or status, some don't at all. Also, you said yourself you're a bitch so I'm not sure you're my target audience for girls to attract. I agree that you need to bring more to the table than your job though
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>>32200179
>We see. And it’s not good.
You could be surprised
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>>32200507
>>32200497
Yeah, I’m going with my family. We’re going to see Rome so I’m excited for that.
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>>32200488
Bad ending: the trip around the mediterranean ends in the Balkans
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>>32200527
Ending in Barcelona
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>>32200532
Not the right side of the sea, amigo!
Have fun regardless.
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>>32200192
Thinking about this, in my younger years, when I lacked the experience, refinement, and sheer amount that I bring to the table today, I did the whole "date around" thing, but even then there's so many implications and ways it can get messy. Let me give you an example,
>Don't get into a relationship until you know a guy better, and if sex happens before that just treat it as sex and don't let it get into your head
Also, take it to your fucking grave. One of my girlfriends I met while she was doing the dating multiple people thing, we dated for just under a month, then we got sexual/became official and exclusive. We were a thing for about three months after that, until I found out the same weekend as our first date, she fucked someone, fucked him again during the time we were dating, and then he ghosted her. I immediately ended things because I'm not a chump, and knew I wasn't her first choice.

Men are proud. We don't like to share. We definitely don't like finding out we were someone you make rules for, and not someone you break rules for.

>NOT because he liked being single for a long time
I mean, in my case part of it was because I fun living my best life, but also because women actually worth committing to are rare in the extreme; most women aren't half as special as they think they are.

>Because dating in 2023 is poison
Understatement of the year. It's just the worst.

>I think a troll is more likely but your reply is great
<3 Thanks, but I disagree, I think he really is a thirdie who aspires to be #4 rapist in all of Malaysia.

>Is a boy cut a trend now or have any meaning?
LMAO oh bless your heart... ooof. Um. So how do I put this... boy cuts and pixie cuts are synonymous with women who get IUDs as a birthday present to themselves on their 18th birthday, because they're in it for the love of the game.

I'm sure it looks great though.
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>>32200543
I’m sure I will. They’re supposed to have a nice gym on the ship
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>>32200394
It doesn’t matter. I love it anyway! It’s 90 here today and it feels amazing. It looks soooooooooooooooooo good too.

>>32200478
Basically any random thing that I get overly interested in and obsessed with. This morning I was reading about Mussolini and his colonial wars in Africa before World War 2 and then I kind of got sidetracked into reading about west Africa and the countries there.

I think I’ve mentioned that I tend to be more attracted to younger guys despite knowing it’s a horrible idea and knowing pretty much any relationship would never work out, so I’m loving it and am 100% in horny mode from all the attention and that’s probably why I’m being so aggressive and bitchy this morning.

>>32200483
She’s complaining about guys not investing in her so I don’t think she’s setting the tone. Rushing into something with someone you barely know isn’t investing and taking your time to move slowly isn’t treating someone like an option, or if it is then it’s more like evaluating an option. Also you’re wrong and loud about it.

>>32200488
Amazing! Have fun and see so many neat things!

>>32200511
I may be bitchy but I’m not a gold digger.

>>32200522
No.

>>32200524
Neat!

>>32200532
Also neat!

>>32200550
Retard.

>>32200554
Yayay!
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>>32200488
Have fun and stay safe, my n-word.

>>32200511
You're welcome, before the thread dies lemme ask you this: how much school do you have under your belt at this point?

>>32200554
Blast Tevvez for righteous gainz; being a living 80s montage set to the sound of "Zeus" while in Greece would be pretty meta, bro.
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>>32200554
Squat heavy, king.
>>32200590
Lmao. I actually took a photo with that one statue of Zeus when I was in Greece.
>>32200572
>No.
Yes.
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>>32200572
>She's complaining about guys not invest in her so I don't think she's setting the tone
I agree, at least not on purpose. But, if she's giving it up fast and easy she might be. That said, trying to date multiple men with money, options, and experience won't end well.
>Also you're wrong and loud about it
It appears we disagree. Anonette wants to know how to get an established man in his 30s or 40s to invest in her. I suppose she'll have to decide whether she wants to take the advice of the established man in his 30s, or the girl who is 28 and single and thinks being "bitchy" is something to take pride in. It's quite the dilemma, but only she can choose, and only time will prove who is right.
>Retard
I'm not sure what I said that triggered you, but I wasn't trying to dunk on you, or imply that you're for the streets. You asked if the haircut carries any implications; it does, and I just told you what they were in a very candid fashion whilst making a futile attempt to laugh with you about it. I'm 100% tracking that for you it's just a stylistic choice. I'm also sure it looks just fine. You may have to deal with more attention from broccoli-perm'd zoomies than you'd like, but it be like that sometimes.
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>>32200619
Legend.
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>>32200483
Thank you very much for the advice! To be honest, I am currently in my "hoe phase". I used to have much more extreme views and browsed /pol/, MGTOW and listened to my father's racist rants a lot, which is also how I got into the habit of browsing 4chan. But these extreme attitudes eventually made me bounce the other way, and I became very slutty. Since I come from Eastern Europe, racism and misogyny are very common, so the first time I met a man that described himself as a feminist, who loved "loose" women and was promiscuous himself, I was hooked. He completely sweeped me off my feet, that he was interested in women's issues and racial equality. He seemed like a genuinely kind man, and I think he is a genuinely kind man, but I'm still interested in having a family and, to be quite honest, I'm just not as motivated or smart to be a career woman. And, beyond my looks, I was a little bland to him, and didn't seem interested in ever "settling down".
I still do want to date a male feminist, and I avoid any alt-righters like the plague, specifically because I fall into the tradwife stereotype. I don't want any creepy narcissist ordering me around. If I do something and it falls into "women's duties", it's because I like it and I like making my partner happy. Not power dynamics.
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>>32200692
And he* didn't seem interested in settling down
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>>32200692
>he was interested in women's issues and racial equality.
Holy shit women are pozzed. Not the first time I see a woman interested in this bullshit. Next time I meet one I will pretend to care about this shit just to fuck the bitch and then ditch her ass lmao.
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>>32200692
I puked a bit at all of that.
Why you'd introduce western politics into our own cultural context I have no idea. It doesn't work.
Especially about sexism and racism, we have much more respectful and functional cultures and traditions.
Fall for Satan's tricks if you want, promiscuity or whatever. You're not hurting the male population or your local fascists.
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>>32200619
No.

>>32200633
We’ve done this before. I may be 28, single, and socially broken but I can also tell when a guy is posturing and presenting himself as something he’s not, and, to be blunt, you’re not very good at it.

>>32200692
Hum. That’s certainly additional context that was previously missing.
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>>32200699
You do realise the appeal of a male feminist, or really, a person of the opposite sex who is interested in your own problems seems like a great partner, right? A woman who knows about men's issues and is flexible or doesn't judge is simply a better wife or girlfriend.
In the same way, a make feminist, to me, seems like husband material. It's not social hierarchy points.
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>>32200284
>Lets just assume you're right. You're not, but lets just say you are. Still doesn't excuse the way she's acting. This is how (aside from the everything else about you) I can tell you lack self-respect; if you did it wouldn't even occur to you to abide this kind of behavior. Moments of weakness? Sure. We're all human. Prolonged periods where her acting out of pocket is a matter of course?

No. That it was the only time that she went full retard mode but the next day she recognized that.


>I get the feeling that you're more of an aspiring predator, only held back by the fact that you have zero game, don't understand women on even an elementary level, and are glowing with coombrain energy.
>...Believe it or not that was like the third draft of what I wanted to say, and it's the nicest way to say it, that I could think of.
Lel
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>>32200692
>Thank you very much for the advice!
You're very welcome.
>I am currently in my "hoe phase"
Can you understand how it's self-defeating to engage in hoe-ish behaviors, yet expect the type of man you want to think of you as wife material? You are running out of time. Casual sex adds very little to your life beyond hollow validation and a rush of dopamine.
>But those extreme attitudes eventually made me bounce the other way
Happens a lot. Picture a scale, from 0 to 100, 0 being the cuck to tend all cucks, 100 being /pol/ made manifest. The man you want is somewhere between 55 and 75.
>so the first time I met a man that described himself as a feminist, - I was hooked
>He seemed like a genuinely kind man
>and didn't seem interested in ever "settling down"
There's a very clear picture here, and I want you to take a moment to reflect upon it and see it for yourself. I don't know if you're still in contact with this guy, but if he were to, in a year, two years, five years, marry some other girl, how would that make you feel? There's plenty of women I enjoyed my time with and sent on their way who told themselves I'd never settle down. I'm presently engaged.
>women's issues
...You live in Europe. If the Russkis pour over the border are you gonna take up arms next to the men like a proud feminist, or is your ass gonna be on the first train to the border like the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian women?

I know that's a heavy question, but it's also a very real possibility.
>racial equality
The west is the paragon of racial equality. You know who you never hear crying about racial injustice? Immigrants, because the deal is so good. This is all "pat myself on the back" bullshit. Real men care about real things. Male feminists are just dudes who know they can get it in by pandering to you.
>I avoid any alt-righters
The problem is that term is often shorthand for "anyone who calls leftist rhetoric on it's bullshit."
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>>32200734
I don't completely disagree with alt-right points, especially when it comes to men's suicide rate being higher, men's jobs being unappreciated, porn, alcohol, video game, gambling addictions or men losing everything as a result of divorce. If anything, I do think men have it worse and, much like how women revolted 50 years ago, men need help, as well.
There's not much to comment on race, simply because of how obvious it is race isn't the issue, upbringing and desperation are.
I also want to mention that male feminist was also the priest's son, he read the Bible every day, led church service, was part of a Christian charity etc. And then, one day, he snapped and started filming porn, dating strippers and doing meth. His mother was a housewife, but he loved whores. This is also why we had so much in common, going from one extreme to the next.
It's very obvious both extremes are wrong. And, from my side, things are calming down and it just seems really simple. I just want a partner I feel attracted to, who accepts me and we can work towards something together.
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>>32200813
>marry some other girl, how would that make you feel?
I last spoke to him about a month ago, and I know he's still not married. If he did get married, I would probably be slightly jealous, mostly because I'm still attracted to him. And, while I agree with the point that men do differentiate between flings and women for long term relationships, it wasn't really the case, just because it's a niche or an uncommon situation, I think. Him being the priest's son doing a 180.
>is your ass gonna be on the first train
I would absolutely be on the first train. I wouldn't judge any man who deserted, either. If I was a man, I would break my legs to have an excuse not to get drafted. Self-sacrifice only makes sense when it directly serves your family. Not your country or any strangers.
>Male feminists are just dudes who know they can get it in by pandering to you.
It's very possible. It makes me very sad, but I also know it happens.
>leftist rhetoric on it's bullshit
I consider myself a moderate feminist. I just care about the practical side of things, for example women continuously preferring men who make more than them, even when they themselves make more than the average man. Or how I'm simply not as ambitious or wise enough, because I'm barely entering adulthood. If I pretended to be smarter than I am, that would simply be arrogance.
I don't fake being more "independent" or better than I am, and I know my limits. But I am still a feminist.
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>>32200692
>I don't want any creepy narcissist ordering me around
Nor should you.
>If I do something and it falls into "women's duties", it's because I like it and I like making my partner happy. Not power dynamics
I believe all healthy relationships are built on consent, honesty, and transparency. For me it's less about power dynamics and more, I expect things of my woman, she expects things of me, we agree and move forward in life, together. We are exactly what it says on the tin.

>>32200729
>I may be 28, single, and socially broken
Then, respectfully, why are you giving another woman advice? You can only guide someone as far as you, yourself, has gone. Which isn't anywhere she wants to go, I'm sure.
>I can also tell when a guy is posturing and presenting himself as something he's not
If this was true, your life would have gone very differently.

>>32200734
No I get the appeal of validation and feeling understood, what I'm saying is actions speak louder than words. The guy you mentioned, for example, said all the right things and made you feel all sorts of ways, but he's not here, is he?

You seem like a nice, smart girl. All I'm saying is, if you meet a guy who handles his shit and doesn't treat you like an object, maybe don't write him off just because he doesn't buy into every piece of western libtard rhetoric.

Also if it feels like I'm coming in hot at times, it's because the thread is ending and there's not really time for a back and forth lol, all the best.
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>>32200734
> a person of the opposite sex who is interested in your own problems
A man who cares for women problems won't necessarily care for yours, and vice versa. It's a non-sequitur.

>It's not social hierarchy points.
I would think it's just shared interest points. But then, I mean, it used to sound funny to me when women claimed not to be dating men who hold a certain political view or such. But then I grew to understand this better, which I think I can summarize in two points.

1) Women seem to have an internal urge to stick to groups, and the better they reconcile their views with the views of whatever group, the more comfortable they feel. Women just can't stand disagreement and are more likely so flip their views to that of the group (aka be flexible).

2) Women tend to date guys from their social circles, aka the social groups they belong to. Ie if a man shares acquaintances with a girl, they are more likely to date because the girls feels safer or whatever, all else held equal.

Men don't typically care for this group stuff, they will usually date anyone regardless, but this stuff is pretty important to women, it seems. So, the way I see it, a woman seeing a guy belonging to her groupthink sphere is big points regardless of what the views accomplish or who they help.
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>>32200814
>I don't completely disagree with alt-right points, especially when it comes to men's suicide rate being higher
The fact that you would consider this an extremist point should tell you what the real problem is.
>men need help
Men are helping themselves.
>one day, he snapped and started filming porn, dating strippers and doing meth
It was fun while it lasted but you should really stop talking to this person. No man is going to consider you for anything serious while this dude is part of your life, and if I'm being honest a lot of them will judge you for having him in your past.

>>32200866
You seem like you've got mostly reasonable takes, and don't want to be treated like livestock. That's fair. You don't understand duty to one's nation, but I don't expect you to.

The reason I bring this up is, you say stuff like "I would absolutely be on the train" and "I don't really feel like going for a career" but you don't seem to understand these sentiments come from a place of privilege. Men don't have these options. You're a cute girl who isn't completely unpleasant to be around, you have a ton of value and you didn't do anything to earn it; God and makeup gave you everything. Women are, men become. Any man you give the time of day, meth heads not withstanding, put in a fuckton of work to get there, and you should be mindful of that.

Anyway, reign in the hoe-ishness, date dudes until you know he's for you, or not for you, and repeat until you find your man. You're gonna be fine.
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>>32200881
Top shelf post. Anyway ya man gotta go mow his lawn. See ya'll next thread. Or maybe not, I might fuck around and go to Indonesia for a bit, I haven't decided.
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>>32157893
F, general human rights regarding bodily autonomy.

>>32159812
They don't allow you to do masks, I don't think.

>>32161756
>What do you wish boys would say to you more often?
It's more of an absence of weird things, especially in the flirtatious realm, I'd say a good rule of thumb is to talk to women like you'd talk to guys.

>What is a topic you wish you could talk about more about with guys (but can't due to insecurities, disinterest or social convention ?)
This honestly isn't a huge problem with me because I'm friends with a lot of weird punk dudes who I can tell fucking anything to, but a lot of women feel talked down to by men when they express common interests.

>What is a clothing or accessory that you think is underrated or underutilized by men?
Shorter shorts. 5.5 inseam shorts.

>>32162287
Alright, faggot.

>>32163525
Go for bisexual chicks, that's what mine did.

>>32164320
None.

>>32180012
I think both of those are super hot.

>>32182878
Yes, but I get hit in the face more.

>>32187102
What were you going to school for? That'll be a good place to start in terms of finding girls with common interests.

>>32187427
You fumbled the bag. Find another girl.

>>32198806
As you get older it's harder to be in big groups of people your age, like in high school or college.
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>>32200881
I agree with your points, but I also have to add women (and probably men, too) use certain words as shorthand. "I want a man who organises flour, sugar and beans into jars." really just means "I'm attracted to family-oriented men". Women, myself included, often look for specific things in men that signal various traits she's looking for, without him consciously making an effort to appear a certain way. If a man calls himself a feminist and goes overboard making himself look good, he's clearly just a liar who wants to get his dick wet. It's more believable if he had a personal reason for it, like his younger sister being molested as a child (the case of my preacher's son).
In that same way, "male feminist", to me, just means "cares for broken people".
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>>32200572
I wouldn't describe it as bitchy or aggressive, you just seem more animated than usual which is kinda fun. I'm like that too when it comes to learning about random shit, recently I was looking into important grimoires in the history of demonology just because it's like the lore of real life. I don't believe in any of it but it makes for fun stories

>>32200952
>Yes, but I get hit in the face more.
How tall are you? Are you ever worried for your safety in there? Personally I avoid the women in the pit if I can because it just seems weird to shove a woman but I imagine the point is that chicks in the pit want to get shoved around like everyone else right?
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>>32201004
I'm 5'4. I think worrying about your safety in a mosh pit is universal, no? The last time I was in a pit, I went face first into the back of someone's shoulder and got a fat lip. I love being shoved around, that's why I go in!
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>>32200872
You’re not a woman at all so how can you guide one anywhere? I can at least identify you as the preening, egotistical phony you are.

>>32201004
What are the most interesting demonological things you’ve learned?
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>>32201038
Intrigued…
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>>32200927
Thanks and travel well, anon.
>>32200998
Interesting, is there really like a laundry list of these items that you keep track of? Are these just like quick filters that you apply consciously so you don't waste your time on someone?
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>>32201048
>I can at least identify you as the preening, egotistical phony you are.
Based

>demonological things
I don't remember too many specific details off the top of my head but a lot of demons names n their origins stem from ancient gods that have been forgotten otherwise. A rival nations gods became the demons of the abrahamic faiths. A lot of the stuff regarding demons and hell and the nature of Satan comes from texts or traditions outside of the bible. There's also the matter of who is Satan vs who is Lucifer, are they the same? Satan as a word and idea means the adversary, in ancient Jewish faith you could've made the claim that he was a servant of God testing humanity, not an evil entity necessarily. Lucifer on the other hand as a word and idea may have origins in ancient Roman dieties. In more recent times authors have published grimoires detailing the names and characteristics of demons and these texts then went on to influence other authors who built on the lore and added a couple demons of their own. It's cool shit, I love the idea that a god can become a demon of another faith, it's like if in a thousand years the dominant faith has Jesus as their principle cruel malicious force

>>32201052
Mosh pits are fun as fuck although often sweaty and a bit dangerous

>>32201038
Yea worrying about safety is universal but as a 6 foot 180 pound guy I'm at less of a risk than the average female. Last time I was in one I got pushed into another dude back to back and our heads hit each other, it was enough for me to go aight I've had enough and leave the pit. I was also sober at that one which didn't help
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>>32200881
Well said.
Your partner is supposed to care about your own problems, not some generalized politics that might affect you. It is impossible for there to be genuine romance anyhow attributed to that political action because bias is the opposite of understanding.
If he "cares" about women's rights, he doesn't necessarily care about your personal struggles or understand you as an individual or a woman.
And I wish there were some women in my social circle, seemingly everyone I've dated is a total stranger. I can tell it's easier in a group.
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>>32201157
I make a point of taking out my lip rings and eyebrow piercing and handing them off to whoever I'm with whenever I decide I wanna mosh. Shit gets crazy in there.
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Girls
I'm here to discuss the terms and conditions under which you post tits (or ass. I like ass too)
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>>32201247
200 bucks.
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>>32201262
Eh you'll have to tease us first
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>>32201157
>sweaty and a bit dangerous
That’s the intriguing part.

It’s interesting how all that came into some kind of semi-coherent body of work, and why people bothered to put it together outside of a purely academic historical study.

>>32201238
Heh…

>>32201247
Never and you crawl into a hole and die.
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>>32200998
I feel that carries the unfortunate implication that all women are broken.

>>32201048
>You're not a woman at all so how can you guide one anywhere
Men have been guiding women for thousands of years, and things could have gone worse. Then they did.
>I can at least identify you as the preening, egotistical phony you are
I love how I live in your head rent free, whereas for the life of me, I'm not even sure which dumb, over-opinionated, under-informed bitch with an irrational vendetta against me you even are.

>>32201157
>Mentally ill roastie talking out of her ass
>Simp cheers her on
You're being part of the problem, anon. Be better.

>>32201178
Truth. I find it very tiresome how, for most people, their idea of a conversation, or exchange, or dialogue is to mindlessly cite (often unverified) statistics or conclusions, rather than actually get to know the other person or where they're coming from.

>>32201238
>>32201262
Pottery.

>>32201285
There's girls that'll do that for you in person, for free.
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>>32201157
>>32201238
Is there some kind of code of etiquette for a mosh pit? I’ve only seen them in movies or something and not very often.

>>32201380
Walking garbage.
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>>32201380
>I find it very tiresome how, for most people, their idea of a conversation, or exchange, or dialogue is to mindlessly cite (often unverified) statistics or conclusions, rather than actually get to know the other person or where they're coming from.
Not a thing for me, I'm glad to be surrounded by pretty genuine people.
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>>32201131
It's honestly just likelihood of one thing having one meaning or another. As a woman, it's true that you get approached very often. Your job is to investigate and accept or reject the offer. Since men are, on average, afraid of rejection, those who approach you are overwhelmingly sociopathic. I don't really accept dates from guys upfront, but let's take the example of an average woman. Much like how you might lie in your CV, men often make themselves out to be extremely confident, successful, hung, kind, fit, sensitive etc. and, within hours of meeting this person, there's no way to disprove them. For example, if a guy is in his 20's, it seems very unlikely he's successful, since he hasn't had the opportunity to develop his career. If he is successful, that could be a red flag, if he gets his money illegally. It's also a red flag if his parents are rich, because it's more important that he has the capacity to make money himself and use it responsibly, rather than simply be rich. So from those points, you might look for clues that sway your conclusion one way or another. Is he hiding his wealth or cautious with the kinds of women he dates? Could it be because he's been backstabbed by a gold digger in the past? That would suggest it's likely he's successful. You often go from one hypothesis to the next, and the times when one piece of information is confirmed or disproved are very precious. Only stupid women base these things on how shiny his car is, his wristwatch etc. There's lots of things you simply cannot ask a guy you're interested in, cannot trust that his answer will be genuine and cannot trust that his genuine answer is a good predictor of the future, which is why women pay attention to gestures, body language, objects, accessories, tone of voice etc.
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>>32201390
You'll forgive me if I disregard the appraisal of someone fated to be discovered half-eaten by her own cats.
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