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Anyone else gonna watch this?
two mid table teams battling for europa league qualification
both teams cant defend so goals are guaranteed.

LINEUPS
>west ham: pic related

chelsea :10 random teenage ngubus youve never heard of
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>>144560896
Chelsea boss Enzo Maresca has revealed Reece James' return from injury has been delayed

Gusto's absence, having already missed the game against Bournemouth, again leaves Maresca without a recognised right-back, meaning Axel Disasi could be asked to fill in against West Ham on Saturday.

"His injury is delayed," Maresca said of James. "The most important thing for him, and for any injury, is that he comes back when he is fit. Reece is still out.

"Unfortunately we don’t have an idea," he added when asked when he could return. "We hope we can find the right solution and have him back."
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I'm thinking Wet Spam 3-1 Chelshit
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>>144560914
his career is fucking over. hes just refusing to retire so he can leech his 300k a week contract until its done

cant believe people used to rate this roided up positionally retarded sicknote
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*sigh*
someone make a proper thread
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>>144560939
this is the thread sorry format autist
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Is Sir Free Gear Keir at the match?
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>>144560955
yes
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>>144560927
ive screencapped this and will post it to laugh at you when we beat these dossers 9-0
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predictions?
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>>144560939
Is it really too difficult for you to take responsibility for once in your wretched life?
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>>144560961
Good lad. Fuck the people kicking off about it. Us Tory-Lites should take all the freebies possible
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>>144560996
i have autism. it makes that hard
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chelsea team
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>>144560896
Sky Sports' Nick Wright at the London Stadium:

"After defeats to Aston Villa and Manchester City, Julen Lopetegui will be hoping West Ham's third Premier League home game of the season brings their first win to satisfy the locals.

"This fixture has been provided plenty of enjoyment for the club's fans in recent years, with West Ham only losing one of their last seven home games against Chelsea in the Premier League and racking up four wins, including a 3-1 victory in August of last season.

"A repeat result today would serve as lift-off for the Lopetegui era following a stuttering start to the campaign."
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HOW MANY FOR OUR BOY TODAY
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>>144561008
Shit excuse, you're on a website for autists. Unless you're one of those spergs who can recognise posts they made years later.

>>144561027
>German literacy
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Why is every white lad in London called Terry?
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Chelsea 7-0 West Ham
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>>144560914
Sanchingz makes first Chelsea start

Chelsea BOSS Enzo Maresca hands Jadon Sancho his first start following his middling debut as a substite against Bournemouth.

His inclusion is one of three changes from the win at the Vitality Stadium, with known racist Enzo Fernandez returning in midfield and fulham reject Tosin making his first Premier League start for the Blues in ''defence''.

Perenially injured Christopher Ngubu stays on the bench despite his winner against Bournemouth, with ''literally who'' Renato Veiga, Pedro Neto and Axel Disaster the players who drop out of the starting line-up.

the white Beckenbauer Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall is back among the substitutes but Malo Gusto misses out due to injury, along with the corpse of Reece James.
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>>144561027
hes so shit hes already been dropped and left out of the squad
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Morning all
Spurs are fucking shit
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Wank Bissako has looked pretty good for Weston Super Ham
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>>144560939
I thought you said you'd fuck off, autist
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SANCHOOOOOOO
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>>144561013
>This is what £3 billion gets you
This sport is fucked
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>>144561149
never said that
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>>144561013
does caicedo have a skin disease? look at that skin
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>>144560896
>chelsea :10 random teenage ngubus youve never heard of

its funny because i see eastern euros online and they have usernames with "lampard" and "drogba" and the zoomers that support nu-Chelsea are all like "malo gusto" and "umbcuhgkwe"
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OFFICIAL THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Uh3OJCx3o
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>>144561149
That was the match thread OP.

Thread autist DID quit once upon a time, but couldn't stick to his promise like the attention whore he is.
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>>144560927
West Ham are always nice to Chelsea, less so to other london clubs desu
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just make the thread properly it's not hard
don't get why it has to be such a drama
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>>144561187
Poor little white boy
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>>144561230
>just make the thread properly it's not hard
Clearly it is. You included.

>don't get why it has to be such a drama
Because autism.
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>>144561236
mudryk is not white, look at those tatts
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we need THEM back
manager and assistant manager

get it fucking done BOEHLY
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>>144561230
theres no such thing is 'properly' making a match thread. every way is as proper as any other. thats just your psychosis talking
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To pass the time let’s play guess the player. I’ll start
>plays for Chelsea
>is of African ethnicity
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>>144561261
>chelsea/boehly has been so shit recently that potter is unironically being considered for top jobs again
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>>144561276
id guess but 4chan only has a 2000 character limit
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>>144561269
the correct take

everyone involved in the format autism down the years can go off themselves
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>>144561184
probably never learned how to shave properly, i had the same issue from being a fatherless fuck
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>>144561276
Thats a 1/100 guess mate. I cant be arsed with that.

Is it Ngubu?
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What is your go to Saturday lunch?
>inb4 a psycho says tap water
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>>144561313
>you were never able to dick down this anons hot mum and then dump the baby on her and go off to shag someone else

you cant suffer as anons dad
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>>144561326
spaghetti and chicken after ripping my flesh off the bone at the gym
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the chelsea team is unironically whiter than this west ham btw
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I know we will lose but well meme'd my friends
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>>144561338
no it's not
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>>144561367
christ
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who the fuck is jonathan spector
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>>144561326
I don't have lunch at the weekend
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>>144561376
zoomer detected
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>>144561376
he was a man u youth prospect i think, american. united fans used to say he was the best fullback under 21 in the world
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>>144561269
including the full lineups, kick off time and channel in an easily readable format is objectively better than just saying "look it up yourself lmao"
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>>144561376
You're mom lol
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>>144561400
kys

>>144561404
gottem
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>>144561376
a ghost that haunts the league
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>>144561367
Bowen stands alone
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>>144561390
megagay
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saying there's no objectively correct match thread format is like saying to your mum there's no objectively clean bedroom when she berates you for being surrounded by cum tissues and empty crisp packets
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>>144560896
West Ham just isn't the same anymore without Moyes.
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>>144561455
see
>>144561412
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>>144561469
does anyone even know who their manager is now?
probably some random spaniard
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>>144561472
Cheers. I did gottem
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>>144561481
Loopytegi

To be fair he’s better than Sharteta
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Can someone please explain to me why Chelsea got Sancho, Neto and Felix? And that's on top of spending more than 1b over the previous 12 months.

Why are they like this?
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we got this
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>>144561367
GRIM

And summerville is at west ham too? huh
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>>144561527
they have two LITERAL retards in charge of transfers called winstanley and stewart. they make the format autist look clever by comparison
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>>144561543
Sky Sports' Nick Wright at the London Stadium:

"Excited to see what Crysencio Summerville can offer on his full Premier League debut for the Hammers.

"He's an exciting talent and has a chance to make a real impact on West Ham's left flank today, especially with uncertainty around Chelsea's right-back spot.
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>>144561527
Roman Abromavich still funds the club
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>West Ham
>it's in east london
absolute state of that. also i went there and its LEGITIMATELY the most depressing place in the world.
i don't even understand how their fanbase seems to be made up of 95% english people. i went there by train, and when I got to the west ham station I was literally the only european in there except for two kindergarten teachers who were transporting 20 kids.
can someone explain this part to me? where the fuck are all the fans coming from, because they sure as shit dont live by the stadium.
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The dreaded Chelski Putin pals shall not win today.
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The story goes that a schoolboy footballer named Will Murray, who was nicknamed 'Bubbles' due to his resemblance to a character in a well-known Pears' Soap advertisement, used to play at the school playground near West Ham's ground, and his friends would sing "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles" (the song originated from a popular Broadway musical in the early 20th century) in the playground. Over time, it was sung at matches and eventually became the club's anthem. The bubbles have become a visual representation of the song and are released onto the pitch before the start of home games and when West Ham score a goal. This tradition is symbolic and an integral part of the matchday experience for West Ham fans. The sight of thousands of bubbles floating across the pitch has become one of the iconic images of West Ham United, symbolizing the unity and the homosexuality of the fans.
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How did West Ham become my 2nd club?
Went there once with my uncle over a decade ago at the old ground.

Hammer 4 life.
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>>144561567
every white guy who used to live in london sold their shitty flat to an arab billionaire for 1m quid and moved to a mansion in essex then travel to london for the matches
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>>144561576
SOVL
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>>144561576
>one fanbase known for blowing a guy called bubbles
>the other set of fans known as rent-boys

is this the homo derby?
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>>144561614
would explain why you're watching it
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pavel nedved looking rather zesty on tnt sports
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>>144561596
Fair enough. i dont understand the plan of the overseas investors who seem to own 80% of London, but Essex seems lovely so I get that part of it.
I guess they'll eventually try to gentrify the entire west ham area then, but right now it looks like a third world country
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>>144561594
What part of West u from m8?
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>>144561027
>>144561091
he's injured
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>>144561664
full ham
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Chelsea’s bench at West Ham today has cost them 335 million pounds
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>>144561678
grimaldo
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I wouldn't punish my worst enemy by making them suffer through a Joe Cole rant.
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>>144561678
A meal deal at Tesco is £3.60
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>>144561690
Guy must be the dumbest pundit around right now. single digit iq
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>>144561690
this but listening to "fletch" and lucy ward for the whole match
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>>144561717
at what age are you too old to be known by a nickname? i know for sure chappers is too old to still be called chappers
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Teams should abandon tradition. Especially the songs that they enter the stadium to. In my opinion it should be like wrestling. Put some numetal on
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>>144561664
Corporation St.
Looks exactly like I remember it complete with 3 leased Mercedes Benz and everything
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>>144561739
based.
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>>144561736
I will forever be called my nickname by friends until I’m dead
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>>144561744
this is grim.
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>>144561338
>>144561425
>Emerson
>Kilman
>Mavropanos
>Rodriguez
>Bowen
vs
>Cucurella
>Fernandez
it's not even close
also West Ham's nonwhites aren't all ngubus
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does /sp/ rate summerville?
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>>144561744
>each house here is worth over 750k
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>>144561739
Based
Should use some of the B-tier nu-metal bands like Spineshank, Taproot and Soil
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>>144561773
my rating of him will entirely come from this game. if he looks good i want him to go to real madrid in the summer, if he doesnt perform hes dogshit and will never be any better
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Chelsea's attacking players are about to start a shooting drill. If West Ham's first four games of the season are anything to go by, they should get opportunities today.

"The Hammers have allowed more shots than any other Premier League side, even manchester united. Their average of just over 18 shots faced per game is in fact their highest since the 2010/11 campaign."
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>>144561744
sovl
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>>144561807
Afternoon, autist.
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>>144561773
the front 4 a lot better when he came on last week
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>>144561833
Afternoon
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>West Ham have lost both of their Premier League home games so far this season. in their history, they’ve never lost each of their first three at home in a single campaign.
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>>144561865
that's crazy
*walks away and talks to somebody else*
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Tim Sherwood on Soccer Saturday:

“Jadon Sancho came on, he’s had a bad time. He’s a very, very intelligent footballer but he is an intelligent footballer who needs a cuddle, he needs love and attention. The Chelsea manager Maresca has got to recognise that.

“He looks like he’s found a home.
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>>144561921
lol
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How long will it be before it’s 11 blacks v 11 blacks in every PL game
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>Chelsea have been shown more yellow cards than any other side in the Premier League this season (16)
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>>144561921
need this legend and his gilet back on a PL touchline again
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>>144561988
being a racist sports fan must be such a chore lmao state of your life
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>>144561566
Sorry, not buying that. There is no way the UK would sanction Russian money going into the club, and there is no way that would fall within the PSR and FFP rules.
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>>144561921
is he calling him a poof?
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Look at this mouth breather lmao
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>>144562042
why do we have so many mouth breathers
kane, him, maguire etc
i guess its asking why portugal has so many ratface players
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>>144562042
Unfortunately he's actually a good player so we'll have to see this ugly fuck for years
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>>144562042
>aaa im mouthbreathing!
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>>144562052
hes a mong but id rather look at him for an hour than gordon or saka for 1 second desu
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there's a reason ''''rated'''' players like paqueta, kudus and todibo end up at clubs like west ham
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the NBC Sports Premier League morning fan fest shows us burgers get to watch is the cringiest shit I've ever seen
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dead thread dead league dead board dead site dead internet dead civilization
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>>144562042
https://x.com/abzMCFC___/status/1828195544176480368
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>Among the 17 ever-present sides this calendar year, only Everton (22) have picked up fewer Premier League points in 2024 than West Ham (23).
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>please watch two washed wogs punch each other
people who buying boxing ppvs should be exiled
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>>144562081
>west ham fans actually believe paqueta is world class
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>>144561921
lol saying that after only playing 45 mins
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>>144562081
very true
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>>144562087
ange dont you have a gyro to eat?
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>>144562005
Just don’t like em
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>>144560914
Chelsea bros whats the cope here?
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>>144562095
watching prime bucks smash each other to bits is prime entertainment you fanny
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>>144562095
joshua will win comfortably
dubois got beaten by KWAB joyce who got ended by the big unit from china
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>>144562086
how bad is it?
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>wet shite
>>
EL NICO YASON EL NICO YASON EL NICO YASON

APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE APOLOGIZE
>>
THE BLACKEST SON
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lol. what a stupid goal
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another sancho assist damn
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BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON BLACKSON
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you're fucking joking lmao
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Moyes return needed
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>tfw stream is 3 minutes behind
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>thriller dance celebration

based
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ooooooooo
I AM FO REAAAAL
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>>144562125
but they wont do that, they'll just punch once then hug and repeat
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>>144562106
im actually eating pasta and gyro i bought from lidl right now as we speak
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first Canadian awake
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legitimately surprised Jackson stayed onside for that
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>Nicolas Jackson has now scored the same amount of Premier League goals for Chelsea as Olivier Giroud (17).
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>>144561865
they thought they could do better
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>>144562167
>open vlc
>open network protocol
>PASTE http//127.0.0.1:6878/ace/getstream?id=efc60cfe5e3a349baa02bcc49f6647c21a9c3c5b
>???
>PROFIT
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY BURST THE BALLOONS WHY WOULD THEY DO SUCH A CRUEL THING??
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MOYES OUT

WE SHOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR CHAMPIONS LEAGUE NOT CONFERENCE LEAGUE LIKE A BUNCH OF KNACKERS
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BRING BACK GOYES
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>>144562179
good morning sir it is 530am here sir and for you?
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>>144562201
>you have to have acestream installed
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>Jadon Sancho has created a goal on average every 25 minutes in the Premier League this season, the best record of any player in the competition.
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>>144562207
>>144562209
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>summervile
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>>144562134
>6am in chicago
>sun isn't even up
>maybe 100 fans there, all the FIGHT AND WIN mls fan types
>2 or 3 kids there playing with the west ham mascot in the bubble set up
>shit panel
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maybe jadon sancho is a good player that's just had his confidende and reputation destroyed by manchester united's ten hag
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>>144561664
West ham were in East Ham
Chelsea are in Fulham
QPR are in White City
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>>144562215
I see what you're doing there buddy and I'm not too keen on it
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>>144562225
the way assists are counted is so stupid
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>>144562225
united are honestly such a huge joke
they should sack the manager and recall him before chelsea finish above them
he's more valuable than ten hag
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>>144562239
honeymoon phase, in a month they will be calling him a lazy bum (which he is)
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at this point the eplel resembles the nba you have all those teams with no long term goals but filed with world class talents alvarez paqueta kudus bowen what are they even doing ? howis their career gonna be benefited from playing at west ham and finishing 8-10?. playoffs should be introduced
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>West ham were in East Ham now Stratford
>Chelsea are in Fulham
>QPR are in White City
>Arsenal are in North London
>Millwall are in South London
>Barnet are in Edgware
>Wealdstone are in Ruislip
London football is a bit weird innit
London football is weird
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West Ham are unbelievably shit at defending a counter attack damn
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oh no rip elley never forgotten what a huge career a legend
>>
ELEYS IN A BOX
IN A BOX
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>>144562247
i got a cock like a pot noodle, yuh
you got a bussy like an apple strudel, yuh
gonna fuck you from behind like a poodle, yuh
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Are West Ham just not playing with a right back?
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Spic manager not even clapping for a dead kid
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>>144562272
what do you mean by "at this point"?
good players have played for average teams for the entirety of football
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lemme guess, this kid was stabbed by an unnamed asian migrant
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>>144562314
he died of a overdose...
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>>144562304
AWB keeps getting caught out
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>>144562300
Behave yourself
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>>144562306
not my problem
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>>144562304
>United paid Mazraoui with the exact amount of money they got from selling AWB
honestly best deal of their window, Maz is insane at possession
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>>144562089
9001 hours in paint
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>>144562319
overdosed on vaccine?
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Why did west ham sell ward prowse?
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>>144562332
based
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>>144562348
new manager hates double-barrellds
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>>144562348
too white
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>>144562348
yeah to forest
turns out he's actually not that good
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>>144562319
on bubbles?
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>>144562312
only the eplel is like that, kudus paqueta arent rejects from bigger clubs and arent "talents" at the start of their career one was ajax best player and the other was lyon's but them being in west ham isnt even a step forward its like they were drafted or traded there like it happens with nba guys
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>>144562272
playing for any team in the premier league is more reputable than fighting for trophies in other leagues. there's only a couple teams internationally that have more draw over a premier league midtabler
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>>144562332
always found it strange that they make footballers do interviews
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>>144562304
wan bissaka has an iq of less than 60
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>>144562348
not mobile enough for the new manager
woke nonsense
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West Ham have now conceded five goals in the opening five minutes of Premier League games in 2024, at least three more than any other side
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turns out loppyteggy is a fraud
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>>144562348
messi put in a word for his teammate [guido rodriguez]
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>>144561703
Michael Owen retire?
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2-0 fucking hell jackson again
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>>144562375
it is a step forward. playing for west ham is a step up from playing for ajax. its 2024 and youre underestimating the pull of the epl
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absolutely based
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>wet poo

>>144562375
no, not only the EPL is like that
once upon a time (like 20-30 years ago) talent was spread across more than just the 10 teams with all the money
think of all the stars who played for "lesser" serie a teams in the 90s
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHAMMON

YA KNOW IT
>>
who the fuck is this
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Jackson is simply too good.
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imagine letting blackson score 2
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0-2
>0-2
0-2
>0-2
0-2
>0-2
0-2
>0-2
0-2
>0-2
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Why didn't the cunt do a moonwalk this time?
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THE GREATEST STRIKER TO EVER LIVE
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>>144562392
joe cole is the white michael owen
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Nicolas "Haaland" Jackson. CLINICAL
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FACKIN BRING BACK MOYES YOU FACKIN CANTS
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ze hammers are playing at a walking pace
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Some really nice fitba there ngl. I remember arguing with Wet Spam fans about how they’d miss Moyes.
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West are fucking awful
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think lopetegui will be sacked by HT lads
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cause this is thrillerrrrrrr
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HEE HEE
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>>144562399
yes seria was the epl of 90s and late 80s
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kilman is useless
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>just remembered this is on
>female commentator
>turn tv off
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jackson actually make decent runs???? its over
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SHAMONE
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why doesnt areola just shave it all off
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>>144562392
Kek cannot argue
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AND SOME PEOPLE WANT ME TO THINK JACKSONS NOT A GOOD STRIKER LMFAO
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>>144562439
has she been reincarnated as chelsea's star striker?
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>>144562396
what step up their careers are at a dead saudi league is closer than champions league football for them unless of course they sign for galatofenersiktas
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diving cunt
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West Ham goalie is kind of bad
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finally back playing the /westhamway/
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Sky Sports' Adam Johnson:

"The only perspective to that goal is bafflement at how easy it was.

"The centre of West Ham's defence was simply split apart. Alvarez went wandering out of position, leaving a clear route straight through to goal.

"Horrific defending."
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my gf refuses to watch Chelsea with me ever since koulibaly and sarr left the club. What gives?
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You dumbasses realise qpr vs millwall is on right?
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>>144562455
the epl has more prestige than the CL in 2024
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thank god we will never have female commentator
it will surely take 100 years
i would be dead before that happened
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>>144562462
>Adam Johnson
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>>144562314
i thought it was some west ham player from the 60s elliot ellie eley
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>>144562470
literally who?
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>>144562470
yeah that's why we're watching this game instead
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>wet sham defending so bad they make jackson look good

cockatelli out
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I still don't know how lopategui finds employment. he bombed every team he managed
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>>144562470
shouldn't that be kpq?
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>poowen
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could he replace Lopetegui again
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>>144562486
>this will be us in 20 years
grim
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just put your boot in
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>>144562453
he's not
west ham are atrocious
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>>144562501
this is me already
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That defence is so shit
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Why does Lopetegui have haircut of a medieval peasant?
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it's time
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Are Spurs fans still delusional enough to believe Postecoglou is a good manager?
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chelsea are now 2nd in the table
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>>144562517
a latvian would know
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a very nice pass by paqueta
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>>144562527
boehly OUT
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pakita needs to lose that goatee and just do a soul patch
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paqueta is a donkey
how does he start for brazil
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>>144562501
>20 years
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>>144562517
he is a morrowind breton
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>>144562486
what team does fatty support?
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>>144562552
United
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>>144562547
brazil are not good
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>>144562547
they have 0 good midfielders
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I don’t think I’m ready to live in a world where Caicedo is actually good
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>no longer dem Moyes Boys
>get pumped by a Chelsea who have been a laughing stock for years at this point
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>>144562570
We dem Losertegui lads
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ERA
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thats a pen
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ERA
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>>144562569
nobody is
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give it for the bants ref
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wtf 0-2 already? how?
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he fucking flopped
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SI ERA
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ERA
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>>144562569
i guess enzo was the problem after all
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not a pen
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that ref has visual impairment
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that penalty is a big test of the current season's Raised Bar™
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Got laughed out the thread for calling Jackson a Drogba regen two years ago. I need a full grovelling apology (with no stank) from a US and Norway flag NOW.
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>fofana was signed for 90 million
signing braindead black defenders for stupid money never works
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they don't have a clue
making it up as they go along
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>>144562486
should be using the handrail if you have to put both feet on each step
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>>144562602
does jackson do anything other than score?
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>>144562602
He’s nothing like Drogba
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of course it's not enough contact to floor him
it's still enough to stop him from getting the ball
cunts
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>>144562499
god that old badge was SO much better
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>>144562517

>Basque
he is one
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the most dangerous lead...
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what a fucking shitshow
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>>144560936
>cant believe people used to rate this roided up positionally retarded sicknote
desu he was at one point of his career the best right back in europe especially during the 2021-2022 season but yeah it's literally over
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LOL
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>Sancho
MY GOD
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wan bussaka and sancho are playing great. i wonder what the common link in their poor form previously, was
>>
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>Sanchize
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>>144562611
He showed his rotten attitude when he first signed for Lesta too, and already had injury trouble with them. Crazy to spend that much.
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AHAHAHA
OH NO! NO!
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>>144562630
>he was at one point of his career the best right back in europe
yeah if you ignore the existence of TAA
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wait are chelsea good now?
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>>144562630
he really wasn't though, people just got caught up in the circlejerk
same as caicedo (at least he can actually stay fit thoughever)
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sticking your hand up calling for offside doesn't actually make a difference but it's something as a defender you are compelled to do
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>>144562649
no
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>>144562649
no, west ham are shit
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>>144562602
I shan’t be apologizing
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>>144562611
So much effort to get him when there were red flags everywhere and then he gets injured for a fucking year
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>>144562649
no
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>>144562664
it does in real (i.e. non-var) football
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>>144562621
He is black, from africa and scores goals. "Nothing like Drogba" you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
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I know I'm a dumb casual but Chelsea looks like a top 4 team and Jackson the most dangerous goal scorer behind haaland
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Sancho just two classes better than the rest
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where the fuck is AWB on these counters
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>>144562664
I would have made a difference before the ruler merchants got involved.
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now that AWB is no longer a United player I can finally judge him without any sort of bias and good fucking lord he's woeful
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>>144562688
>AWB
>Attack
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>>144562680
Kill yourself you pathetic cunt
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>>144562695
I mean the other way round
he's not defending
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>getting pulled after half an hour
it's over for him
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Wet Spam are nothing without Moyesy
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>already making a sub this early
ogre
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for some reason the American broadcast every time AWB makes a tackle calls him “like a big black octopus with his telescopic legs” and I don’t get it
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This Sancho lad looks pretty good
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>>144562701
simply report and ignore
you can use my favourite report option of "This post is extremely low quality."
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>>144562678
discord gif
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>>144562709
>AWB
>Defend
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uhhh argentinabros??? he took off guido
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>>144562701
umad?
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when does West Ham start asking the question?
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>>144562693
people were actually mad he was sold, mazraoui is such an upgrade
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Fraudriguez exposed
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>poocek
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>>144562596
Enzo's problem is that he does not want to learn how to play any higher on the field, he covers a weird role where he wants to sit down deep into the midfield to shoot long balls in peace but he cant do that because he doesnt know how to defend either
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i love watching overrated pissi minions get humiliated like that
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>>144562725
>>144562729
he played fine
it's an attacking change
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>Tottenham vs Qarabag
no, no I don't think I will thanks
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Why do West Ham fans think Paqueta is one of the best players in the world?
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My friend works with the first team at Wolves, and he says Lopetuigi is a slave driver who never gave staff a day off. Make of that what you will
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Just paid for Joshua vs Dubois box office. Looking forward to it but think I’ll only tune in to that fight alone even with Joshua facing a nobody
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IM SORRY MISS JACKSON
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>>144562755
because he is
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>>144562720
Pokemon black/white sprites were peak kino (halal), never should have went to soulless 3D (haram)
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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WHAT A GOAL
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I was happy at first when chelsea signed fernandez
then I was sad when I realized that it wasn't julian alvarez
arr rook same
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Screamer
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>>144562649
yea we're massive
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>>144562470
Nothing will happen
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one thing I totally don't miss from AWB is how too much of a casual defender he is when there's a counter attack, just jogged while hoping the rest of the defenders that were further to the back to do the defending.
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>>144562773
>>144562783
>>144562789
you will begin to cough in three days
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wow a screamer by AWB. didnt think he could do that!
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>>144562785
one looks like a hoodrat, the other like a kid
thats what separates them
you know whats even weirder? Edson Alvarez uses the exact same shirt number as Julian did in City, so now we have another year of a #19 Alvarez on the Prem but its not the #19 Alvarez everyone memed about last season
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Sancho is so bad.
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i don't appreciate this little gimmick going on - sort yourselves out
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>>144562760
ooh ooh ohh
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Kudus is EASILY the best winger in the EPL and top 5 in the world
I don't know why he is so underated
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bissaka is a liability
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fofana is beyond shit
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>>144562814
not better than Tyler Dibling though
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>>144562811
Fuck off
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SHIT! DID YOU SEE THAT!?
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>>144562814
yeah makes you wonder why liverpool aren't clawing to replace salah with him
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>>144562798
no but Steven May
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Wish we kept Chabolah instead of Fofana and Gallagher instead of Enzo
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>>144562808
I also thought of edson alvarez at first when I was trying to write that post
anyway they both seemed to me manlets wearing stripy blue kit
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GREAT GOAL! SERIOUSLY CANNOT FATHOM SUCH AN INSATIABLE GOOOOOOAL!
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cole palmer has been anonymous
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Boleyn Ground or Upton Park which was better?
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OMGGG SCREAMERRR
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I feel bad for West Ham fans
Probably the worst stadium for football in the prem
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>>144562828
they will be next season for sure
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>>144562835
*grabs you by the throat*
back off???
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in my head I think West Ham can comeback from this
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>>144562840
is this a trick question
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>>144562851
More chance of Michael Jackson making a comeback
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I used to love watching the BPL from 2007-2014 the games were much more entertaining and you had a lot more screamers now it's tiki taka fliki flaka pass pass and pass fucking BOOOORING
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What does he do?
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>>144562851
they're scoring two at least
question is how many more will they concede
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enzo jeremias fernandez
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>>144562839
drawing all the attention to open up spaces for jackson innit
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>>144562867
Dribble (onto his own chin)
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remember that film where batista fought with some mad russians inside upton park
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>cawdy rhodes theme to walk off

No wonder West Ham are so dimeless
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>>144562851
Chelsea defenders look pretty bad so there's a chance
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>>144562867
he slows down the game and make transversale, poor man's hazard
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>>144562866
Pep ruined football. Jose was the hero we needed
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>>144562830
They'd probably take an FFP loss offloading either of them, less than useless to the retarded juggling the owners are doing.
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>chelsea fans in chicago
pick a struggle lol
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do NOT search さくにゅうき on youtube
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>>144562840
huh?
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>>144562881
need to be walking on to i believe in joe hendry for the second half to redeem themselves
>>
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>>144562890
brits say chicago so weird innit
ch-cah-go
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>>144562886
not pep's fault that people try to copy his tactics with shit players like chelsea is it
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>>144562894
>2 goals
>2 shots on target
id say thats efficiency right there
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>>144562870
https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/image/PtSfz7h%2B%2BUf0bEgf8c7SEw%3D%3D/page/17/

Why?
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>>144562860
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This is the first West Ham game I watch since 2018 probably.
I couldn't stand watching them in that souless stadium
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>>144562894
West Ham's right side are just utterly retarded from the start to finish, could've been a lot closer game
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>>144562886
what's more depressing is that the two biggest club in the capital have pep students as their coach, fucking embarassing
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>>144562905
birming-ham
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>>144562887
Unfortunately the retard owners are correct that football revenues will double in 10 years so they wont suffer any consequences
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>>144562923
need this woke nonsense out of the game
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>>144562886
>>144562907
Guardiola is a massively overrated manager, and would never be able to take a middling team to the top.

Alex Ferguson was, and always will be the far better manager.
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>>144562896
do not search tandem breastfeeding on youtube
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who can it be now
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Chelseabros, we are so heckin back. I'm putting on my old Lampard shirt for this game.
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>>144562924
loss an-juh-leeeeeeeees
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>>144562937
doo doo doooooooooo doo doo
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should this have been a booking?
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>>144562933
BASED!
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>>144562933
alex ferguson way outspent pep as man united manager (relatively compared to the rest of the league) and he only won two CLs in 26 years
he's a fucking fraud
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>>144562866
I used to think that way until I saw some 2004 games, fuck , the football quality was extremely shitty
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is there a chance to see QPR in the prem again? I used to love their kit with the red letters
>>144562931
also, need some law to prohibit teams from "owning" too many black players
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>Be vulture capitalists
>Sell off Chelsea hotel
>Sell off training ground
>Trying to sell of Stamford Bridge
Why is no one in the media calling them out for asset stripping?
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chelsea barely did anything after their 2nd goal, West Ham could've got at least a goal but alas.
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>>144562943
Why do they always do this each time they score?
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>>144562870
219 please fren
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youtube keeps recommending me videos of Japanese women trying out breast pumps
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>>144562971
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>>144562947
You are genuinely retarded mate.
Fergie took United from struggling club in no man's land to being a consistent winner for 23 years. This is something Guardiola has never achieved, never will achieve, and isn't capable of achieving.

Stupid young people like yourself do not understand how difficult it is to take a team from the middle to the top. You think it's all about money and trophies but you're too stupid to properly grasp all the context behind it.
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>>144562916
It's genuinely the worst ground in the league. You don't notice it on tv, but there is a huge gap between the lower and upper tier. The lower tier is basically one of those temporary golf stands. The lower tier is already miles away from the pitch, it must be absolute shit watching from the top stand
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>>144562872
funny image. mind if i save it?
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>>144562975
impressive. very nice
let's see mathilde groß's thigh's
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>>144562951
I remember games having less structure, more flair more exciting moments. I think the other nanon is right, Pep's sucess in his rigid way of playing football killed all kind of engagement players used to have with their game. I remeber for example when he got mad at Schweinsteiger for trying to score outside the box and Beckenbauer calling Pep out saying that sometimes you do need to shake the game a little
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>>144560896
We are so back
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>>144562978
man united were always a big club even before ferguson arrived, he did not make them a big club like shankly did to liverpool
he had the biggest transfer spend in the league every season and he had by far the biggest wage bill in the league
he bought his rival's best players on a whim and still only won two CLs in 26 years
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Aj or Dubois?
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>>144562995
nice, post the one with the girl in the grey shirt having her nipple getting hard
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>>144562982
depends on how high the seats are compared to pitch
if theyre pretty elevated its prop fine
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>>144562886
José "park the bus" Mourinho?
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>>144562990
Yeah it was more exciting but it was pretty shitty in comparison. If you want screamers and unforced errors you can watch women football
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>>144563021
Yes.
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>>144563007
>man united were always a big club even before ferguson arrived
Do you even know how long it had been since they last won the title before Ferguson? They weren't nearly of the same stature before Ferguson turned them into champions.
>he had the biggest transfer spend
There you go again with transfer spend like the moron you are. You just don't get it.
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>>144563012
AJ
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>>144562982
I remember they were saying it was going to be one of the loudest and scariest fields on the premier, fuck, I cant even stand watching this
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>>144563031
you're arguing that pep can only win at clubs that can spend money
well it's exactly the same for fergie
he's the biggest chequebook charlie in existence
and he played shit football too
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>>144563030
he always made it about himself
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>>144562982
>>144563046
Doesnt seem to ever be a problem in countries like Italy where running tracks round the pitch are common. Atmosphere is always still great
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COLD
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yeah it's over
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>>144563060
Because it was about him, he's always the main character of any team he's involved with.
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>crap ham
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>>144562839
apologize
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>>144563060
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>>144563050
>you're arguing that pep can only win at clubs that can spend money
No you illiterate moron. I'm saying Guardiola cannot take a club from the bottom/middle to the top.

All of Barcelona, Bayern and City either started at the top, or were already there or thereabouts. How stupid do you have to be to not grasp this?

There's honestly no point in having any kind of argument with you because you're clearly incredibly stupid. Almost certain you're a scouser.
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ICE
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west ham cannot defend
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>Wet Spam
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Lopetegetout of my club
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nowhere near bald enough for this level of fraudulence
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har de har
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>>144563086
ICE BABY
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Holy fuck the hammers CBs are absurdly shit like holy fuck what am i watching? Slowest CBs ive EVER seen
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man were talkin wot?
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>>144562867
(You)
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What times the next bus/train hammers
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Westsissies....
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mexican behaviour
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Chelsea for the league
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>>144562683
I agree with vikram here
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Mexican angry he has no pace
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>>144563094
That fringe is doing some heavy lifting
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Up to 2nd place now lads. Enjoy it whilst it lasts (for an hour)
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>>144562867
Apologise
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>>144563084
barca were struggling when pep took over
he got rid of all their star players and replaced them with academy players
he's basically single handedly shaped the way that modern football is played
fergie just flat-tracked bullied small teams with his massively overpowered squad and then got exposed time after time by far superior managers
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ok who replaces lopetegui??
>sarri
>potter
>terzic
>rudi garcia
>javi garcia
>scmidt

or is it gonna be an ex footballer fraud

>xavi
>lampard
>parker
>crespo
>conceicao
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>>144563068
The problem is not the track
>New location in a rich neighborhood
>new badge
>new stadium
It feels like a different team
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>>144563103
permacrocked Zouma would've done more desu
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>>144563143
some woke manager like kieran mckenna
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i happen to know a former hammer legend who could save them
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Chelshit fans shouldn’t think they’re actually good here by the way, Hammers defenders are utter shit
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>>144563143
Steve Bruce
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>HELLO HELLO
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>Enzo and Alvarez arguing
Wonder what they were saying
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>>144563134
I kneel
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Maresca doing the Arteta thing of not staying in his box
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>>144563156
suck my dick, we're getting top 4 easy
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>>144563156
who ACTUALLY has good defenders on the league besides City, Arsenal and mayyyyyyyybe Liverpool?
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west ham have no defence whatsoever
it's embarrasing
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grim
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>you now remember people saying west ham had won the transfer window
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bring on neto, noni not doing too much
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>>144563137
>barca were struggling when pep took over
They won the Champions League in 06 you embarrassingly laughable idiot.
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Enzo.....hasnt been awful this half
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>>144563191
>Max Killman is the English Maldini
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>>144563215
He unironically has been shit every game bar 1 since joining Chelsea
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>>144563215
we need to control the game more, midfield hasn't been great, caicedo has carried the midfield on his back all game
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Man I love bootyblasting Wet Spam, would seethe like nothing else during those times they’d beat us (like fucking Christensen getting manhandled by Antonio)
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LFC v Bournemouth: Kelleher; Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Robertson; Gravenberch, Mac Allister; Salah, Szoboszlai, Diaz; Nunez. Subs: Jaros, Gomez, Chiesa, Jones, Gakpo, Jota, Tsimikas, Quansah, Bradley

Four changes - Alisson hasn't made it
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>>144563234
he gets bullied way too often by ngubus and other players of similar physique, he's too slow and too twink-y for a deep laying midfielder, Chelsea should loan him to some Serie A or La Liga team
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>>144563212
barca finished almost 20 points behind real the season pep took over in 2008
they had fallen off massively
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>neto
good
>dissasi
bad
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>>144563251
nice
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Darwin starts lads
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loopytaig OUT
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>>144563252
Agreed, after watching for 50 games for Chelsea i still have no idea what he is elite at. Very average in all aspects of a midfielder
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>>144563251
>Gakpo dropped
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We are halfway there
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alright lads im going for a hot girl walk ill miss you all deeply
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>>144563252
i think enzo can be good but i've really never seen him have a stand out performance besides maybe the 1st liverpool game with poch last year
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>>144563292
Please be in London
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>>144563252
>>144563288
>>144563303
I think he could be good at a team that play 3 in midfield. In a 2 man midfield he is average
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lol so easy to counter
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hate players that modify their kit like antonio cutting his collar or players cutting holes in their socks
scruffy cunts
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west ham have kind of given up
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>>144563292
>a hot girl walk
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madueke gassed and has been mediocre the whole game. hows he still on the pitch
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>more attack
i feel like this won't address our current problem in this game
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niggers are so selfish
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>>144563368
he's black
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>>144563335
the sock cutting is because those socks are really really skintight, almost like wearing latex so they get really uncomfortable to wear, some players cut them to let their legs breath
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>>144562982
here's how to fix it
>remove current lower tier
>dig the entire pitch way down
>lower tier now starts right below upper
>extends all the way down to the edge of the pitch
would add a ton more seats as well
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>>144563335
collars on football shirts are uncomfortable and look like shit
i don't blame anyone for getting rid of them
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palmer off probably to save him from injury, west ham been purposefully fouling him all game
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apart from the goals chelsea have been fucking shit
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>Thats why weve got Solomon Kalou
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>>144563396
no it's because chelsea have 100 players on 10 year contracts and they need to give them all a game some time or other
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>>144563413
>>144563413
>>144563413
>>144563413

NEW
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Was lopetigi eveb good at Wolves?
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>>144563437
...no
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>>144563437
no
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>>144563191
they did
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>>144563352
american slang for having a friend drive you
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>>144563463
Ill add it to the list
>blud
>Bro is [ ]
>bruh
>let him cook
>who let blud cook
>lil bro thinks he's on the team
>cooked
>bro really thought he cooked
>this ain't it chief
>hey chat
>chat is this real?
>alexa
>[ ]andy
>ayo
>bussin
>mood
>vibe
>vibin
>vibe check
>passed/failed the vibe check
>squad
>waffling
>yapping
>it really do be like that
>[ ] be like
>ohio
>[ ] in ohio
>malding
>oldhead
>goofy
>ahh
>im dying
>deadass
>:skull:
>:sob:
>we have [ ] at home
>full send
>lowkey
>highkey
>mid
>cap
>no cap
>fr
>bet
>ong
>ratio
>map
>slop
>sheesh
>penjamin
>blinkerton
>homie
>N-word
>N-word pass
>fanum tax
>sneako
>mr beast
>xqc
>ice spice
>xitter
>geekin
>tweaking
>wildin
>goon
>gooning
>goon sesh
>sigma
>sigma grindset
>mewing
>beefing
>cuh
>lit
>mad [ ]
>big [ ]
>[ ]maxxing
>caught lacking
>GOATED
>fw
>sus
>rizz
>rizzler
>level [ ] rizzler
>baby gronk
>skibidi toilet
>skibid rizz
>daddy
>[ ]ussy
>finna
>drip
>OH HELL NAW
>slaps
>slay
>queen
>gyatt
>level [ ] gyatt
>W/L
>common/rare [ ] [W/L]
>L + ratio + [ ] + [ ] +...
>+/-[ ] aura
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why does every coach wait until the last second to give the substitute player a ton of info before getting on the field? you've had all week and all day
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maresca acatually made sanchez a lot better
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RED ALERT
RED ALERT
ANDY IRVING DEBUT
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>>144563488
they'll forget if they're told earlier
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kek luv cucurella me
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Love me Cucurella
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rolling around like that should be a booking too
black pansy
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Irving will score
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who the FUCK is andy irving?
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>>144563542
american slang
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>>144563517
asked and answered
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>>144563542
coping mechanism
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>>144563542
Türkgücü München legend
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>>144563542
Big Scottish lad who scores blooters
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what an illustrious career irving has had so far
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>>144563542
the most random premier league player ever
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>>144563570
How does he do it?
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>>144563542
messi in a kilt
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Send Madueke back to Africa. What a retard.
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>>144563542
Holocaust denier
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>>144563580
he's actually quite good
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hammer fans leaving to go shopping
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>>144563570
>>144563586
T-that's his daughter r-right?
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>>144563586
made billions selling dildos
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>>144563368
He's resting the good players.
Also madueke is in his fantasy team and this is the best chance for an easy goal
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>>144563570
that's a MAN
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That girl eye-fucked Madueke so bad
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>>144563614
half thai girlfriend thats like 30 years younger than him
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beautiful cross
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>>144563638
yeah the way she was biting her nail
>>
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>>144563638
>>144563682
you need to have sex
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>>144563682
She was biting her nail beforehand
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>>144563254
It's honestly crazy how stupid you are mate. Year Barcelona that year are really comparable to where United were in 86.

Idiot.
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>BACK TO YOUR CARAVAN
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>>144563717
even arsene wenger had more of an impact on english football than ferguson
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>>144563717
no need to sign your posts bruce
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>chelsea are 2nd in the table and tied with man city on most goals scored

what a world
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>>144563749
we're fucking massive what will it take for you tourists to understand
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Thing is as well, Chelsea have done this on a shoestring budget. The media won't report that though.
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>we're fucking massive what will it take for you tourists to understand
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>>144563737
We already know you're a scouser mate, literally the lowest IQ genetics on the planet.
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>>144563749
they enjoy playing against teams that begin with W
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>>144563777
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>>144563737
why didn't you say he was better instead of "had more impact"
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>>144563805
fergie took about 4 years before he won anything
and he spent a fucking fortune to get there
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>>144563818
if he won a european cup then he would have been better
he still had an unbeaten season which fergie could never do
his football was miles above what fergie was ever capable of though and he spent a lot less than him
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>shouldve kept poch
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we could've had Amorim and Gyokeres instead of a Wolves flop and Antonio
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>>144563824
and you're a scouser with scouser genetics. You're both incredibly ugly and dumb.
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>>144563930
ah yes the ad hominem
looks like I win this one
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>>144563951
You can cope however you like, you're still a moron with no argument at the end of the day.
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>>144563846
so he wasn't better is what you're saying
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>>144563705
nuhh uhh uhh she looked really horny for that black cock
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>>144564001
not objectively no
wenger stayed at arsenal way too long after he lost the passion but at his best he was absolutely miles above fegie in every way possible
that invincible arsenal side absolutely eclipses even 1999 united
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>>144558733
>>144558733
new
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>>144563846
Ok, so you're actually retarded. Good to know.
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>>144564084
so he was subjectively better, got it
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>>144564144
only because of the amount of trophies won because of his flat track bullying
wenger is a much much better manager than fergie
in terms of PL managers it would be pep > wenger > mourinho > fergie
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>>144564144
you are replying to a mindbroken scouser. 25 years of being rekt by fergie took a toll on him.
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>>144564202
are those rankings objective or subjective
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>>144560927
lol



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