>>144570307
What exactly does this bald fraud do and why are people like Golbridge so intent on keeping him on as a coach after 3 years and still no progression or even a style of play?

Are united fans just retarded? Do they not realize that when fans of other clubs want the coach at your club to stay, that probably means your manager is shiete?

This club is a fucking mess and you cant even blame the owners now because they have given Ten Fraud EVERYTHING hes asked for, and he still cant fucking win vs Crystal fucking Palace. I'm not a united fan im just here to support city and for the memes but jesus even I sometimes feel bad for our next door neighbors. City needs some competition to make this league exiting again.

United loses 0-0

IT'S OUT

>3 /mug/s up at the same time
based

>>144571930
The Liverpool match should've been the final nail in the coffin and not for the result. Purely for seeing an Arne Slot team playing like an Arne Slot team after 3 months in charge, while ETH's team is still a mess after 3 years lol.

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>>144570307
>foreigner seething about Englands biggest club

Tale as old as time. And hilariously probably a Bayern fan.

>>144571930
>Goldbridge
His name's Brent Di Cesare and he's an actor who plays a United fan on Youtube for clicks

Mid table shit team

>>144571930
>>144571918

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>five games in
>goal difference is ZERO

Mid table shit team

>>144570307
we won 0-0 tho

>>144572090
>we

>>144572090
>won

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>11th place

i’m sorry but martinez was the worst player today.

ill timed pressure leaving holes

Barely progressing the ball

MOST IMPORTANTLY, slowed the shit of the game in the last 20 mins which meant we couldn’t play through the middle which meant our wingers were crowded out.

>>144570307
That's it, we're a mid table team. Lets not focus on beating City, Liverpool, or Arsenal. God forbid we think about CL and playing the likes of Bayern, Madrid or PSG...

No, this lackluster, spineless, team should focus on beating the likes of Palace and Brighton. Playing for a tie in the last 20 minutes against Palace, well done United. That was a tie hard fought for. Phew, I'm glad we tied.

>>144572076
The Zirkzee scapegoating has already begun I see, scapegoating him just like this sub scapegoated Pogba and Sancho. Despite United not creating anything after Zirkzee and Amad Diallo came off. He links with the midfield and wide players, holds up the ball well and keeps possession and that's key to how the team builds up. Yet nobody says anything about Bruno even though his second half was nothing but him misplacing passes and losing possession.

>>144572090
He can’t whine about injuries any more. Several Dutch signings, 5 former Ajax players. His team, still no obvious style of play or willingness to change from whatever the fuck style he thinks we’re playing.

Slot got a wake up call against Forest and his team overturned AC Milan from 1-0 down in response. ETH gets a wake up call every other game and seemingly learns nothing.

>>144572146
Match ended as clean sheet
Attacking player were awful

>>144572076
I’ve been banging the goals drum for god knows how long. We don’t have goalscorers in the side. We have contributors. EVERY team high and low have these types of players except for us.

People can’t be surprised that we’ve not taken our chances (again) and are on 0 GD in mid table.

This is exactly right for this team in this setup.

jokes on you we didn't even lose ;)

>>144572195
Bruno had an absolute mare. Not one pass of his seemed to have done anything but lead to a turnover. He was so sloppy.

Zirkzee coming off was the turning point as we lost the attacking shape. Rashford cannot hold up play and spring attacks from the CB position.

Then Rashford on the wing was ghost.

The start was so bright and it was wasted.

Garnacho looked alright at least.

>>144571930
>just get rid of Moyes and everything will be fixed
>just get rid of Van Gaal and everything will be fixed
>just get rid of Mourinho and everything will be fixed
>just get rid of Ole and everything will be fixed
>just get rid of Ten Hag and everything will be fixed
you guys are fucking hilarious, teebeeaitch

>>144570307
If only Eriksen isn't practically a zombie. He is just too good as a regista.

>>144572277
You can’t fire the team

atleast we scored 7 vs barnsley...
I'm not sure about Mainoo in this set up, obviously he's a class footballer but I'm not sure at this stage in his development he has the engine required for what he's being asked to do, I don't think we're getting the most out of his skill set. I'd like to see a lot more of Hojlund now he's back, nothing against Zirkzee I just don't think he's a striker.

>>144572268
We dont have much of a plan b. If the energetic pressing/countering game doesn’t work, we have very little beyond inconsistent individual brilliance.

We could easily have lost this one, we conceded some big chances.

It feels like teams know if they can withstand our initial flurry, they have a real chance to win it late in game. Plus we are still vulnerable to counters

>>144572299
so just fire the manager and everything will be fixed

>>144572284
I really hate how Bruno is treated like he’s undroppable. Even unrestable.

Everything else aside about how good or bad he may be. No United player should ever have the confidence of knowing they’ll never lose their spot.

We also have so many goddamn talented players. Improvise and find a way to make Eriksen work there. Or play a 4-4-2 and drop Bruno entirely

He isn’t prime Messi and Ronaldo. He isn’t the uncontested best footballer in his generation.

>>144572284
Although Licha was superb today defensively,we desperately need a ball carrying midfielder who tends to be more creative with his offence,because every possession Licha had the ball from onana,there was negligible to minimal off ball movement from other midfielders to even receive, along with him not being able to find anyone else either,thus making him to back to de Ligt and onana repeatedly. Rashy towards the end was annoyed at no one finding him at the flanks either. Rather mid game,desperate need to be more clinical up front,and to top it all off, disappointing game from Bruno,unexpected :(

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brunobros...

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>>144572356
>We also have so many goddamn talented players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY-3oYW5Bzk

>>144572421
After the 4-0 (where Bruno was out) I was ready to post about how different it would have been if he was around
So much for that

>>144572506
Remember the days where Bruno used to be deadly in front of goal when he first joined? Bizarre how much he’s regressed in that regard in which past couple of seasons, I’m surprised when he finishes his chance to score rather than when he misses.

Those squandered chances like at Fulham or the big one today are the norm. Obviously, his main job is to be creator but when goals are lacking and he’s shown the ability to play his part with that in past or even when he’s with Portugal in national team, so frustrating to see him waste so many chances.

we NEED reinforcement in winter windows, like what copypasta mentioned

And may god help Holjung to find the form :grim:

>>144572466
This was 3 points lost rather than a point gained and it was frustrating that the lads didn’t show any urgency to try and win the game - we were unlucky we couldn’t convert our chances in the 1st half - 2nd half: Bruno misplaced so many passes, Eriksen looked tired and Mainoo was MIA. We really don’t have midfielders that can carry possession from defense to offense consistently - Onana and our defense was our saving grace. We could’ve easily lost the game with Palace’ chances.

>>144571930
He won 2 trophies and ended the era of Klopp.

>>144572610
Uhm, actually it's 2 points lost.

i remember the days when OP would be somewhat original each /mug/. sad state of affairs

>>144572356
he's so overrated it's unreal, i'd play eriksen and even mount ahead of him

>>144571930
Trust the plan. Two more transfer windows

>>144571930
Has it really been three years already lmao

I genuinely think united won't win another premier league away game until they meet ipswich in two months

>>144572592
probably won't be able to buy in January because of PSR. Will have to wait until the summer to get some creative players

>>144571973
nobody mentioned liverpool though

>>144571930
Some fans are just too tired with the frequent sacking and probably got infected with Arsenal trust the plan meme.

>>144572942
he's shit, let's be real. this time it won't be the glazers hiring the new manager.

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>>144572242
>Zirkzee coming off was the turning point
And Zirkzee wasn't exactly too dangerous
>>144572187
>ETH gets a wake up call every other game and seemingly learns nothing.
Exactly. There's no consistency

>>144572592
>we NEED reinforcement in winter windows,
i'm genuinely baffled by united. like it's the same storyline and they've been in a transition phase/dire need of rebuild for about 10 years
and then this bald fraud comes along and they let him spend 600 million quids and the squad is still shit and they look like they've never played together before

>>144571930
brother the club said they didn't even want to keep him and they were actively looking for a manager but failed to get anyone. so it seemed like they were being pragmatic by not kneejerking to someone like southgate. it'd make sense with that context to just let this season play out and then make a decision... but then they fuckin extended his contract
make it make sense
the dude was brought into coach off the back of his ajax team and then he said the group of players (including players he personally brought to the club) were not coachable.... it's just fucking bizarre

>conviniently no one is praising GODnana for saving Manure
kek

fuck bruno,
I’ve been saying it for years. No ball carrying skills can’t dribble himself out of anything. No threat if it’s a 1 v 1 he haven’t got the skills to do his man. Waste of possesion constantly not very good in the short passing deparment. It is what it is though some people are going to cling on to that he’s our best player, well whoever that would be allowed to play the Bruno role of not being a cm and just constantly being in that 10 role would be considerd our best player.

>>144572537
>Remember the days where Bruno used to be deadly in front of goal when he first joined? Bizarre how much he’s regressed in that regard in which past couple of season
within the league, you sort of have to asterisk his goals scored when he first joined the club because of the handball change they made in 20/21 and the epl refs being a bit overzealous. he scored 9 penalties in that season which i think people forget
his ceiling for goals in the league has been shown to be around 10. it's his general creative play that has fallen off a cliff

>>144571973
"big" means winning titles, not advertising to brown people.

If United were to draw Liverpool or City away, would that be mugworthy? What about losing?

>>144573799
/mug/ is failing to beat an inferior opponent. Drawing to Liverpool or City isn't a /mug/, it's a positive result. Considering the state of their teams, I wouldn't even consider a loss to them a /mug/ moment unless it was a blowout.

>>144573832
I think losing is inherently /mug/, but I agree that a draw against a "big club" isn't /mug/.

>>144570307
>not allowed to score offside goals
>no penalty
>no VAR help
>no Fergietime
>draw
What did OffsidechestVAR Penshited mean by this?

united squad is legit dogshit. mid-table, which is where they will end up

TEN HAG OUT

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>No midfield cohesion
>Constantly losing possession
>Only Garnacho appears to give a shit
>Parking the bus the last 20 minutes to preserve the draw against Palace

WTF happened to United?

>>144573334
>>144573144
>>144573059
southgate incoming

>>144572277
Van Gaal and Mourinho were actively sabotaged, Ten Hag gets everything he wants and hes still worse than fucking van gaal and nowhere close to mourinho best season
van gaal fucking asked the club to sign mane and they told him to fuck off, defending ten hag with this logic is insane

>>144579315
They're a mid table club, have you been in a coma for a decade?

>>144582281
mou apologia is tiring because he caused his own downfall by playing dogshit football, ole was the one who got sabotaged, he never asked for penaldo yet the board went through with the deal

>>144582919
>Never asked for Ronaldo
>Never asked for Van De Beek
>Had stopped asking for Sancho a good year before he was actually bought
>Had the hookup with Haaland before he was even managing United and got ignored
There is a timeline where Dortmund era Haaland is at United instead of a broken Loo-caca and the "PE teacher" is walking the premier league

kek

>>144586038
Not even Dortmund era. Ole can recommend to sign him since at the earliest when he was still in Molde.

Our next two PL games are against Spurs and then away to Villa. 8 points already dropped after 5 games. Going to be a big couple of weeks for ETH and the team. No more injuries to blame. Gotta start getting results.

>>144571930
We haven't been close to winning the league or the CL for at least 10+ years, the pundits and media should focus on the teams in the top 4. We don't need your opinion, we know we're shit. Fuck off and stop making drama - your boss owns enough yacts. It's a shame teams like Liverpool and Man City don't have enough fans that click your ads

>>144589905
>in Brighton, we should have drawn or even win the game there, so we lost three points
>today, we also probably lose two points, because of the first half
It’s only 3 points dropped really

Only 2 wins against London teams since ETH has been here as well. Both Fulham

>>144589997
That’s insane. Must be out of at least 20 games. I don’t believe you

>Man United have missed 16 big chances in the Prem this season. The most by any club in Europe top five leagues.

thanks zirkzee and garnacho you bums

>>144579315
ETH inherited the biggest shit show of any United manager. Bloated, ill disciplined and mismatched squad.

All the Ronaldo shit
All the Greenwood shit
All the Rashford shit
All the Sancho shit
All the Maguire shit
All the DDG shit
All the ownership shit

Last season for how bad it was, all our terrible performances, we were only 9 points from champions league. Tell me you can’t go back through the games and see 9 points we threw away or were unlucky to loose.

>>144590123
6 wins from our last 18 prem games good lord that is horrendous whatever way you look at it and it’s not even like performances were good

>>144591101
oh thats in general, not vs london teams

Why is there a mug thread? United dominated the game yesterday.

Only a draw because Henderson kept Palace on life support.

>>144591117
united, a supposed top 4 team dropping points against a bottom half/relegation battling team is /mug/ worthy. i guess you can see that from the thread getting almost 100 posts. a lot of it is united fans though

>>144572076
Try -1 goal difference after all 38 games in the 23/24 season. Heads should have rolled for that fact alone.

>>144591158
/mug/ is overused. Should only be for embarrassing defeats.

Yesterday could easily have been 4-0

>>144571969
My mates joke that the Utd board want them to be played as if they were that Ajax team that made it to the CL semis.
Considering half the squad is from that team you can see it plus with ETH in charge.
And yet the football is just stodgy. When it works it’s because of moments of individual brilliance but the same problems the team has are as a result of this too.
For me i just cannot watch Utd now without this feeling of frustration like I know there’s at least 3 fuck ups in them waiting to come out.
Anyone complaining about the style of play was never here for the anti-football that was the LVG era. We won that FA cup but I was far happier seeing him leave.

>>144591189
/sp/ is just too eager for /mug/
its like an addiction
you go into a united matchthread and thats all anyone talks about or wants. its a religion on here

>>144586038
Manure would have turned erlingz into a 5 goals per season striker anyway

>>144572160
>midtable team
Except we’re not. This team, when everything clicks perfectly, is capable of beating City and Liverpool. And it’s not that long ago that you have to look back either.
I’m just frustrated watching them more than anything. They play exactly like a car that keeps stalling.
We have everything we need at the club right now to compete. The focus should now be removing deadwood and letting academy players shine. It’s a cliche but it would work.

>>144572176
Zirkzee is an easy target but we have a section of the fanbase who won’t accept any criticism of Bruno as “he’s our best player”.
While I do think that myself he just can’t be exempted from criticism. When nothing works for him, he does no graft to get the team going. I like what I see from Zirkzee actually trying to build and link up. But with Bruno once nothing works for him nothing works for the team

>>144572277
STFU rent boy
>>144572299
If only
>>144572314
Mainoo will be fine once the club stop thinking he can dig them out of holes.
Zirkzee for me is a natural “behind the striker” no.10 player and he’s not a natural striker. Hojlund back is a blessing

>>144572338
In other words, as tactically limited and as dimensional as late-era KloppBall at Liverpool

>>144572592
We don’t need to buy at all. It’s strange that there’s a good number of that squad who are good/great. Our problems is lapses in concentration from individual errors. We just need to be rid of deadwood and players who are better being moved on.
Rashford needs a new challenge and ditto Casemiro but nobody is taking them with those inflated wages

>>144573930
Drawing against a big club or even a small loss isn’t /mug/worthy but being raped and losing by a huge margin is most definitely

>>144589997
Have we not raped WHU surely?

>>144591513
I'm assuming Anon means away games only

it's just one of those games ig, not really ten Hag's fault although he could've been smarter and more reactive with his subs at 2nd half
think it's gonna be another "winning EL or death" season where maybe EtH can win it despite dodgy league result and he'll still boast to the media 'I've won 3 trophies in 3 years. I'm still a man for the job you know?"

>>144582281
Mourinho got his ass beat in turkey yesterday

>>144591788
tbf you look at his Fener squad compared to Galatasaray squad, that Gala squad could at least compete in PL (not being hyperbolic btw, bottom PL teams are gutter trash)

>>144591843
Galatasaray is stacked as fuck, unironically. But Mourinhos tactics dont help either.

>>144591461
>we
do need to buy... a new manager

>>144570307
>https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/london
does this work?

>>144598428
yes

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It WILL happen again this week

I now remember Mason Mount.

>>144598916
who?

>>144598734
Based knower

United have had 5 ridiculously difficult fixtures to start the season, it's only natural they'd struggle a little (Also where the fuck is the Crystal Palace United thread? Didn't they draw too?)

From here on out though, it's pedal to the metal 100%. We're getting top 3.

>>144594807
Got to agree there. I just don’t think ETH can string this all along forever

>>144598916
I’m glad you remember him. I don’t want to. I was excited for this transfer too. I really have no idea why. He was a crock and limited at Chelsea but I thought him with us he could be unlocked

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>Ali Sami Yen Spor Kompleksi (commonly known as Ali Sami Yen Stadium), branded as Rams Park for sponsorship reasons

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>>144570307
after today's robbery this thread cheered me up a bit, lads

>>144608468
same

Wait ten Hag is still the coach?
Wtf?! lmao

It's crazy how Mainoo has completely disappeared since the FA Cup final

>>144608378
>excited for Anonymount
Then you really didn't know his reputation amongst Chelsea fans by that point

>>144610043
typical united hyped youth prospect. mctominay, macheda, januzaj, brandon williams, all hyped and turned out to be bad

>>144609805
trust the process goy

I don't know what's so bad about an away draw. City are wanking themselves off rotten after a draw against 10 men.

>>144616713
is this bait
one is vs the title favourites and one is vs relegation battlers

>>144570307
>>144571930
i watched the game and united should have won comfortably, just failed to finish. why is this interpreted as another example of managerial failure? sometimes your players don't finish.

>>144616904
who bought the players that cant shoot?
who coaches them on how to shoot?
who brought in the coaches that coach them? how to shoot?

>>144616713
Bro we're 11th and are back to 0gd

Ten Hag when Eleven Loli walks into the room:

>>144617084
Team was just unlucky. Henderson kept Palace alive and Garnacho and Fernandes both hit the crossbar.

>>144622914
when its constant poor finishing it stops being luck
>Man United have missed 16 big chances in the Prem this season. The most by any club in Europe top five leagues.

>Arsenal draw away against a top 11 side
>silence

>Manchester United draw away against a top 11 side
>REV UP YOUR MUGS /SPEE/TARDS, SACK TEN BASED NOW

>>144625228
>league runner-ups play their B-team and have a fluke draw against a shitty side
vs
>team fighting relegation fails to score important points in a game where they dominated and had 70% possession
dimensions

Now that poonited is crap. Anyone notice a decline in gloryhunters? Did they switch to someone else?

>>144625383
City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs (grim), Brighton but only for hipsters, all in that order

>>144625383
City unironically

>>144625383
City

>>144625228
>>144625290
cant tell which of these is a shitpost anymore

>>144589947
Maulding kek.

>>144591843
Compete for what, top half of the table?

>>144608090
Great post mate