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Name ONE MMA fighter
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>>144636526
*Haps the next anon*
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>>144636601
>Happed myself
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>>144636583
because history is a satanic fib curated by freemasons. if you can't be bothered to keep up with the lectures then I shan't be bothered to fully answer your questions.
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shit thread
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>>144636601
STVRY
SOVL
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Better to hap yourself than to crap yourself
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>>144636644
Shut the fuck up
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>>144636693
MMA?
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>>144636693
You seem to be the only one in here screaming psychotic nonsense, everyone else is posting about MMA
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GSPDS
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>>144636631
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>>144636654
brazza we have to cancel many black belts
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Just realized that dana has bds
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>>144636725
Gaped sissy pedo diaper sneed?
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>>144636770
belal and merab are not brazzas
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>>144636654
When has a heel hook fucking ever worked in mma
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>>144636512
Yeah it's meatheads typing shit into word kek. On the abcboxing website top bar Information > Unified Rules > Unified Rules - MMA
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Madame is trying reverse psychology now, xhe's getting desperate
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>>144636799
Mixing of the martial arts?
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>>144636799
MMA?
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>>144636772
>
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>>144636792
Valter Walker vs Junior Tafa a few weeks back
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>>144636693
>>144636616
Madame please you're embarrassing yourself (again)
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>K-1 World MAX 2024 in Tokyo / Sunday 29th September

-- Cruiserweight World Title (90kg/198lbs) --
Liu Ce (C) vs Mahmoud Sattari

-- Super Bantamweight Tournament Finals (55kg/121lbs) --
Semifinals:
Rui Okubo vs Masashi Mumura
Riamu vs Akihiro Kaneko

Final:
TBD vs TBD

-- Super Lightweight Tournament Finals (65kg/143lbs) --
Quaterfinals:
Hayato Suzuki vs Ionut Popa
Yodkhunpon vs Can Pinar
Lenny Blasi vs Shu Inagaki
Meng Gaofeng vs Tomas Aguirre

Semifinals:
TBD vs TBD
TBD vs TBD

Final:
TBD vs TBD
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>>144637092
Shut the FUCK up
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>>144637092
Combat sports?
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Xhe's beyond saving
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>>144637092
Jiu jitsu? Kickboxing? Muay thai? Judo? Sambo? Wishu?
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Shut the fuck up agpeed
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>>144637159
Ultimate fighting championships?
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these are not the threads befitting of a Pooh Bear fight week
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Madame loves xer AGP
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>>144637269
Cage fighting?
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this place is fucking mentally ill
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Madame really posting like someone who loves xerself and is mentally well tonight
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Over/Under 2 months before Steveson announces he's doing MMA?

https://www.si.com/college/minnesota/gophers-football/gable-steveson-still-fighting-for-nfl-job-after-workout-with-ravens-01j8027esbja
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>>144637352
Neat, more olympian fodder
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>>144637395
Gable's still the best wrestler in the world though. Cejudo was washed by the time he did MMA.
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>>144636549
Viacheslav Datsik
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Madame Xneed's unhinged rants should be used as anti-drug campaigns
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>>144637540
Martial arts?
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>>144637607
dudes actually spergin out polluting heem again
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>>144637607
>>144637639
>>144637649
All me btw
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>>144637686
kek
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>>144637607
>>144637639
>>144637649
>>144637686
>>144637703
5 in a row, this is going to send xer over the edge
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>>144637607
>>144637639
>>144637649
>>144637686
>>144637703
same poster
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Seems like conveniently the two thread spooks started derailing right around this comment chain
>>144635327
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>>144637837
scroll up lil nigga they've been at it for hours
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>>144637837
MMA?
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>>144637491
american wrestlers AREN'T GOOD. he's not gonna do black girl magic in the octagon. he's gonna get heemed.
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She used to be fuckable
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>>144637891
He used to be so fuckable
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>>144637881
rACKic
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>>144637914
no
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>>144637914
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>>144638051
sean's still very fuckable
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Post fighters who used to be fuckable
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>>144637891
Such is the fate of 80% of latinas.
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Is being fuckable the best base for mma?
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>>144638051
That horse clapped his cheeks
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>>144638247
darren till?
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pakistan zindabad!
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>>144638266
how many murders today mexibro?
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the chinese joker is veryveryvery fuckable
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Who wins the ufc main and co-main this Saturday?
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>>144638114
>>144638247
Faggots are so gross.

Initiating anti-homo counter spam protocol.
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>>144638362
if ur geh
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>>144638372
You have sex with men and dogs
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>>144638369
benwah and imavov
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>>144638372
You have sex with men AGPeed
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>>144638362
reminds me of young antonina for some reason
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>>144638372
All peoples are welcome on /heem/
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Madame Xneed is not welcome in the Kingdom of Heaven.
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>>144638247
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shagable
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Double posts means spammy is feeling the pressure. Walls are closing in, life is running out. Dick is small.
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5 Best Middleweights of all time?
>Chris Weidman
>DDP
>Sean Strickland
>Jan Blackovitz
>Dan Henderson
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Dryptybek sacuolbai
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What have you accomplished today?
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>>144636792
Only works against complete cans. Even Ryan Hall and Garry Tonon have only been able to heel hook absolute shitters in MMA, why does anyone still try this meme move? Both of those guys also got brutally KOed fishing for heelhooks. It doesn't work outside grappling competitions.
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>>144637352
Send him to PFL for a quick paycheque.
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>>144638489
has anyone figured out why he refuses to look directly at the camera?
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The HGH made her retarded ;-;
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>>144638455
Still is
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>>144638513
the guys eyeballs are nearly touching I hope you can put 2 and 2 together quicker than he can b
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>>144638550
and neither one of them is looking at the camera.
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Why does Madame always have penis on xer mind?
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>>144638555
Peddling drugs is nothing to be proud of
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>>144638333
Cartels are in a ppl sort of split to keep the body guessing and not overwork one thing, so today was kidnapping day.
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anime
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>>144638601
I disagree completely and resent your uncool perspective.
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>>144638621
What state you in b?
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Drug dealers should be executed
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>>144638666
verily
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>>144638666
MMA?
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>>144638666
Uhh bro don’t you think it’s super cool to sit in your mums basement alone tweaking and peeling your own skin off while gooning to trannies?? You’re frickin uncool man I bet you’re fun at parties
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>>144638706
I'm discussing how we can get goobert mcdoobert back to the octagon
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>>144638724
Combat sports?
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>>144638638
>h/w/s ratios
dicey dicey....
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Drug users should be killed as well (conor mcgregor)
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>>144638649
Baja California, in Sinaloa they are exploding buses and shit, like when conor throw the trolley to the bus but with bombs and shit
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>>144638754
I watched a documentary on baja c. today, mad gun runners n shit. mexico is utterly fucking insane. Like cain vs jds 2/3
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It is continuously proven that Bongs are amongst the worst posters on /heem/.
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>>144638800
and the best, its tawlf b
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>>144638800
your lot have been giving us a run for our money recently
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>>144638798
Is mostly kidnappings for human trafficking and shit over here, the more stereotypical cartel guys with guns and shit are in Sinaloa mainly and further down the south.
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>>144638752
what about pisslam?
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If Bo Nickal was Australian his name would be Abo Nickal
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abo noonga
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>>144638864
hahaha
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>>144638845
what shocked me is how regular people have somewhat just grown to adapt to and live with the levels of violence, pretty sad overall. Mexico deserves better but I dont think there will ever be an end to it.
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>>144638864
If Ciryl Gane was Indian his name would be Ciryl Ganesh
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>>144638513
>wot is kamera
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>>144638922
lol yeah he just looks in the general direction because he doesnt know what to actually look at
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>I made a UFC Elo Engine. Who's highest rated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLwhzlyjEgU

We finally have a GOAT.

>>144636526
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>named Mick
>isn't a mick
Wtf???
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>>144638894
apparently you know nothing about mexico because this is the least violence in their history. satan worship comes at a cost
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>>144638968
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lmao
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>>144639000
MMA?
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why he dropped the rose gimmick
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>>144638984
He used to go by Michael until the incident
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>>144638513
He thinks it will steal his soul
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>>144639000
You will never look like that
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>>144639007
if your starting data is bunk then who cares what the fuck elo says.
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>>144639024
It's Monday night but by all means what is so pressing you want to discuss??
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>>144639007
OHNONONONNO CHAMABROS?
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>>144639028
what was this shit all about anyway
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>>144639059
Mixing of the martial arts?
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>>144639007
no wonder khabitch ducked max
>>144639070
sean wins the rematch
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>>144637352
Dude should retire sixty one is way too old.
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>>144639000
>Drugs are cool and fun and they weed out the mentally and physically weak at worst.
>tears chunks of flesh out his back in a drug induced psychosis
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>>144639100
Ready when you are, go ahead.
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>>144639094
he collects a rose for every guy he beats or something
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>>144637891
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>>144639126
Discussion of MMA?
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>>144639110
Sean is unironically too scared of Alex now. When they posted their last sparring video he spent 40 minutes jerking him off to his translator about how even if he gave a punch 100% he could never heem Alex, but Alex could heem him easy (and has)
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>>144639117
Sounds like a personal problem to me bro...
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>>144639117
Don’t forget the alcohol induced chronic pancreatitis
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>>144639135
That’s gay as fuck
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>>144639158
that was a larp, did well to keep it up all those years though
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>>144639151
Oh, we are really desperate for (you)s tonight aren't we leaf?
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>>144639149
She looks like she's hatching a nefarious plan
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>>144639175
MMA general
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>>144639149
son primos
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>>144639151
>>144639175
At what point does the leaf become "Spammy" AGPeed?
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>>144639135
so he buys flowers for himself when he wins and gets dressed up for a photoshoot?
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>>144639175
We’d simply like you to discuss MMA instead of throwing parasocial spergouts or defending your meth habit
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>>144639242
I think nina is cute idc
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the doctor's note , cumshit....
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Madame is avataring with her transpo
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Khamzat is gonna turn in a "yall musta forgot" type performance against redditker
Watch
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>>144639360
forgot about him going life and death with shitbert? yeah I guess it's been so long I almost did forget.
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I look like this IRL
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>>144639403
you fugg chiggs,b?
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>>144639380
He hasn’t fought shitbert reddiker yet
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>>144639425
mmm lemme thing b... erm YUP
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https://youtu.be/btvJNr_nINE
they linked up !!
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>>144639426
I struggle to think of a MW who would ever struggle that bad vs. shitbert even unranked guys could probably starch him.
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>>144639468
post her tits
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>>144639475
Reddit Rob lost to court McGee
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>>144639489
Dookie Dan starched shitbert tbhfamalam cumshit just not that good. Another doggi MW going down methinks.
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>>144638999
>this is the least violence in their history.
oh well... that completely nullifies the previous 24 years of steadily worsening cartel violence then, thanks canada you fucking absolute worst cunt
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>>144639526
Reddit Rob isn’t good
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>>144639542
what is a drop of water in an ocean, b?
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I can not be heemed
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>>144639007
objectively correct
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>>144639576
the caucasian's going down, paki.
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Avataring as a woman is a form of homosexuality at best and latent transgenderism at worst.
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Here Everyone Empathises Mexico
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I avatar as Dana White on other boards.
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Just realized that bongs probably pronounce heem as 'eem
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>>144639746
post iq test results NOW
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>>144639779
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>>144639779
'ell no
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>>144639665
In all fairness bro it's not like you'd be getting laid anyway, don't stress about your tiny small little cock it's all a complete matching set of unfuckability that makes you such a sad loser.
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>>144639880
in the opinion of all observers. you two are equally pathetic and deserve to be locked in a padded cell with eachother for all eternity.
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>>144639880
Wishu? Karate? Kendo?
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>>144639028
Bring back the rose
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I'm not going to fuck you Madame please stop fantasising about my penis
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>>144639919
it's wushu b
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>>144639972
Fake martial art nonetheless
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So did the fighting nerds just send this guy in to scout the skill level of the UFC and then bring the rest of the heavy hitters up to that level?
Nigga is the yamcha of the crew
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What happens when he wins?
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>>144640039
He buttfucks Tom on live PPV.
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>>144640038
caio is the only good fighter from that gym, don't fall for the memez
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>>144640039
Same thing that happens if jon wins
he retires and tom gets promoted to undisputed
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is ilia doing the whole "el matador" act with the roses and queer shit the equivalent of if dricus started filming himself doing this?
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>>144640084
this is progress, i'm proud of you b, we'll cure your FNDS yet
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>>144640089
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>>144640116
huh
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>>144639905
Just so we are clear, in real life I would have my thumbs so deep inside his eyesockets I was playing Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 with his grey matter as the joystick within the first 2 minutes. Just so we all know how real life would be different or how things would shake out.
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>>144640084
Prates is clearly top 20 level at welterweight, Jean Silva would be comfortable in the rankings of both featherweight and lightweight, and Ruffy has only lost to another giga heemer hue.
In comparison, Moises' entire existence is being a good win for cool prospects. He's clearly not on the level of the rest
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>>144640160
It’s very funny that you continue to act hard despite us all knowing what you’re built like, lil Madame
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>>144640160
if ur so cool why the hell would you care? you would only care if you were as pathetic as him.
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>>144640176
Moises came in the the team late.
The gym seems to have a really good talent scout more than anything.
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You really didn't listen when you first started your insult spam Tony campaign.

And And And what did I say, what did I try to tell you? Not gonna work cuz I love Tony and everything you know about me came from Tony.

Now NOW 2 years later you (TWO YEARS) you are finally ready to kneel to Tony? Hell no. Hell no this shit ain't finna go down like that, dafuq?? Not without me laughing at you first for insulting Tony, "champ shit only" Ferguson
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>>144640217
You are scared to death to post absolutely any photos because you know people would laugh and you are ashamed of yourself.
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>>144640249
Good post brother.
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Poor lil Madame is a flyweight (women’s)
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>>144640345
same weight b
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Well thats basically a direct "yes" you're scared and (rightfully) ashamed.
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>>144640340
what did you say little bitch, im going to heem you
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>>144640501
DONT DO EET OH-GEEE!!
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>5'9"
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Oh cool, that velvet_7 (thebig titty asian whos photos triggered janny) is live now.
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Ill keep an eye on the stream and let yall know if anything happens.
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>>144640617
beast of a BW b
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I married a big titty asian.
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>>144640889
FACT: Megan Olivi has an anus.
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>>144640911
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>>144640968
seems like a cool guy
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>>144640966
Where's the proof?
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>>144641027
based on deduction
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>>144638332
We're nearing the end of september and these 6 guys have a combined total of 6 fights this year. If they all become champions, God willing, you might as well reduce in half the amount of numbered cards every year.
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Till in the schaub
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>>144641113
Not just saying this but I am genuinely surprised they broke even and the year isnt even over yet. Thats way above expectations, unironically.
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Brendan Big Brown Gorilla Till
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>>144641059
We don't live in a world where deduction is sufficient. I could start with the assertion that all men have a penis, and apply broadly to every male I pass an assertion that they are a man, therefore they have a penis. This is flatly not the case.

Therefore, I need to see photographic evidence of olivi's bamhole.
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sup heem
just got back from a barber
his name was jamawl
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>>144641263
are you the pot calling the kettle black, b?
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I'm tired of people respecting Khamzat. He couldn't even finish a short notice Usman fighting at middleweight. People imagining he has a shot at the belt need to ask themselves: How would short notice Usman fare against DDP or Rob? I'll tell you, THEY WOULD HEEM THE SUMBITCH! Khamzat's greatest strength is his ability to secure short notice welterweights as opponents. Beyond that, he's a fucking BUM! He's lower than a dog, even a stray dog will put up a fight. This yellow bellied TRASH is too shook at the prospect of facing Yoel's father, AND HE SHOULD BE! Rob will break the coward's will in the cage and leave him face down smearing blood on the canvas.
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>>144641281
asian as SHIT b
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>>144641263
what was his name?
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>>144641294
This post is cringe bro
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Bryan Battle fight week
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>>144641317
his name was jamawl b gawldawlg you ruined my punchline now i have to explain the especifics
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>>144641319
just mention cumshit and this doo finna crashout ong frfr
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>>144641319
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>>144641334
why do you go to a barber named jamawl b? He do your shit up like a lego block?
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>>144641281
are you calling the kettlebell black, comrade?
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Battle Bryan
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>>144641338
i still havent figured out who that is in that pic
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>>144641357
no I was calling the pot black
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figgy would have been an all time legend if not for some guy who loved lego that kept beating his ass
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ngannou bros...
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>>144641386
ai generated fake zoomer tiktok influencer
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who's my favourite fighter?
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>>144641425
gee, b. that's a hard one.. does his name end in ev or ov?
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>>144641444
no, i'm white
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>>144641410
DD didn’t even get a full load on that final punch. Crazy
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>>144641425
typical rapist question
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schaubschaubschaubschaub
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>>144641294
Whittaker will never fight again once Khamzat KILLS him
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why did i waste my youth beating off and playing minecraft i should have been drilling sprawls and question mark kicks
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>>144641425
Probably Jan.
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>>144641410
Levels...
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>>144641410
Joshua is really good, uh
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>>144641410
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>>144641410
the jiri way
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>>144641488
>digits
kek
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>>144641410
BOOOOOOOOX
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>>144636803
ok what the FUCK is the current judging criteria?

I am losing my fucking mind on this. Many faggots like TheWeasle will refer to the "New Rules" as stating things such as "damage trumps all" or that "immediate impact is weighed more heavily than cumulative", but the criteria that corroborates these claims is dated to 2019 (see links below) and the current version of the rules (according to abcboxing, which seems to be the foremost authority on the unified rules) and the updated criteria actually make no explicit mention of damage at all, and only that effective striking/grappling should be the first consideration in scoring along with definitions of terms like impact and dominance. Does anyone know who the authority on this actually is? What is the current updated judging criteria. Sites like IMMAF and MMAreferee.com still site the rules in the 2019 document that they refer to as the 2017 rules

LINKS:

(2019 "New Rules"/"Damage trumps all, immediate over cumulative, etc.) https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf

(2022 Rules, different than 2019 criteria) https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/unified-rules-mma-july-2022.pdf

(2023 Rules, same as 2022 criteria) https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Unifed-MMA-Rules-2023-FINAL.pdf

(Rules effective Nov. 2024, same as 2022 criteria) https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/unified-mma-rules-rev-july-2024.pdf

what the FUCK is going on here???
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how did aj beat klitschko?
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>>144641575
Not reading all this, a heem is a heem and everything else is faggots
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>>144641585
younger
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>>144641575
MMA youtubers are either just running off of the old rules so they can arbitrarily decide what is a robbery or not or their not keeping up with the changes in the sport
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>>144641585
how does any legend lose to a bum shitter?
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Chandler is a BITCH
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>>144639360
Yeah I think so too, just feel like he’s gonna chin him early.
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I refuse to let /box/ tell me about how boxers are higher skill level when Anthony Joshua has been on top of the sport for years and consistently displays worse striking defense than Jiri
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>>144641575
If you're striking is effective, it will cause damage. If it's very effective, it will cause a lot of damage. Ergo, damage trumps all.
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>>144641585
Fury’s leftovers
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>>144641410
all he had to do was to keep his hand up
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>>144641661
Many such cases!
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>>144641622
if you look at the links it is very strange because the 2019 document that is cited as the "new rules" by a lot of fighters and media members is structured very differently. the amount of typos and mistakes almost makes me wonder if since the "new rules" were adopted did these retards not update it on their actual website?
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you know remember stipe wanting to box fury or AJ
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>>144641685
Stipe beats AJ 3/8 times
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>>144641575
>Effective grappling is assessed by
the successful executions and impactful/effective result(s)coming from: takedown(s),
submission attempt(s), achieving an advantageous position(s) and reversal(s)
So by current rules you can score by "successfully executing" takedowns, and impoving position. So under this ruleset merab is not beatable unless you can control him in the grappling or heem him.
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Stipe the K word
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>>144641650
>Ergo, damage trumps all
if you consider abcboxing to be the up to date authority on the unified rules this is just false. it is heavily skewed towards grappling as it states plainly:
>Judges shall evaluate Mixed Martial Arts techniques, such as effective
striking/grappling(Plan A), effective aggressiveness(Plan B),and control of the fighting area(Plan C). Plans B and C are not taken into consideration unless Plan A is weighed as being even.
> Effective striking is judged by determining the impact/effect of legal strikes landed by a
contestant solely based on the results of such legal strikes. Effective grappling is assessed by
the successful executions and impactful/effective result(s)coming from: takedown(s),
submission attempt(s), achieving an advantageous position(s) and reversal(s).

the wording implies that effective striking and grappling is assessed equally and that in striking the only metric is damage (e.g. results) and in grappling there are multiple metrics including successful execution and impact which is also defined as breaking a fighters spirit and confidence.
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>>144641650
Damage trumps all is outdated, read the rules lil nigga
> Impact: A judge shall assess if a fighter impacts their opponent significantly in the round, even
though they may not have dominated the action. Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling
and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or
grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponent’s energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these
come as a direct result of impact. When a fighter is impacted by strikes, by lack of control and/or
ability, this can create defining moments in the round and shall be assessed with great value.
Concussive, superficial, and spiritual damage must all be considered to determine how impactful a fighter was in a round, and grappling and striking must always be considered in conjunction.
If someone is visibly tired and lacking in confidence after getting taken down and controlled for half the round, they will likely lose it, even if no ground and pound was delivered
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this fight is going to be a banger
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who can i one more run with?
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>>144641727
>>144641736
How do you gauge if striking is effective or not?
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>>144641709
yep see
>>144641727
I would love for someone to tell me if these are actually the current rules judges are using or if the people at abcboxing are fucking mongs because I can't find anyone talking about it.
https://combatsportslaw.com/2016/07/21/damage-damage-damage-new-mma-rules-to-tell-it-like-it-is/
here dom cruz talks about the "new rules" prioritizing damage when according to abcboxing which appears to be the foremost authority, its very different and skewed to favor grappling due to the use of other metrics to judge effective grappling
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Yan won on spiritual damage
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>>144641763
>Effective striking is judged by determining the impact/effect of legal strikes landed by a
contestant solely based on the results of such legal strikes.
>Impact: A judge shall assess if a fighter impacts their opponent significantly in the round, even though they may not have dominated the action. Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponent’s energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of impact. When a fighter is impacted by strikes, by lack of control and/or ability, this can create defining moments in the round and shall be assessed with great value.
according to the current criteria (via abcboxing.com) it is gauged to be effective if the result of the striking is deemed impactful (see definition of impact). very retarded
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>>144641776
that was a smegma dana decision if ive ever seen one
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>>144641776
this
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>>144641798
Yeah. Damage.
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>>144641814
yep basically. but the thing you damage faggots don't mention is the criteria explicitly differentiates the metrics for judging effective grappling which is weighed equally to effective striking
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>>144641763
Multiple factors
For example, if you hit someone and they go wobbly legs for a few seconds, that will be noted. But if you open up a cut on their head that will also be noticed. While volume isn't technically counted as part of the criteria, if you're putting in 10x the number of strikes your opponent is and they are visually exhausted and clearly frustrated, that will be scored as effective and damaging striking
Volkov vs Pavlovich is a great example of this, what ever hits Pavlovich would kand would obviously hurt Volkov more but Volkov was able to effortlessly manage him at all ranges, continually build volume off him, and break him mentally despite not technically doing more concussive damage
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the criteria differentiates between the active project and inactive project
you guys are stupid goofs
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>>144641840
Who landed more significant strikes?
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>>144641850
>active project and inactive project
?
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Ok I'm tired night night bros
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>>144641860
there are ufc projects
look into it new friend
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does anyone know or have a source that states what version of the rules/criteria the judges are currently using?
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>>144641927
its the dana whites asshole rev
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if its brazil vs russia
i always chose the irmaos
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Takedowns are massive damage
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>>144641927
isn't down to each athletic comission? I remember that you'd get notices on certain events that their commission had the old downed fighter rules or wtv.
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The scoring criteria is effectiveness
>what is effectiveness?
Winning
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If blue guy is landing a lot of leg kicks that are being checked and they're hurting him more than his opponent, he's winning on effectiveness; He's forcing his opponent to fight defensively.
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UFC 307 might be cancelled lads
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>>144642105
>>what is effectiveness?
rigging
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Objectively speaking, Hafez won that fucking fight
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>>144642130
true
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In classical muay thai, fights are scored based on who won the story, you get points if you keep your balance, make your movement seem effortless and land flashy techniques even if they don't do much damage.
So if fighter A rushes in and stumble trying to hit fighter B who looked like he was in control, fighter B won the exchange even if he didn't throw anything back.
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Lucas Tracy and MMA guru are essentially Asterix and Obelix
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lucastracy and wewantpicks are the mmayt GOATs
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>>144642271
>wewantpicks
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who will be tony's successor?
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>>144641410
ngannou was sedated
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Have JKickbros recovered from Khunsueklek raping Matsuda for 5 rounds straight
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Moicano vs BSD goes the distance
You heard it here first
Should be around +400
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>>144642330
RDA
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ngannou won the story
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aspinal may be the backup but whos to say jon jones would accept the fight should stipe pull out last minute
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>>144642351
Moicano is too chinny and BSD is too low IQ no way that fight doesn't get finished one way or the other, especially as a five rounder
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>>144641410
Boxing KO's are so weird. Most of the time it's not even a big shot
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>>144642354
does he posses the pure uncorrupted sovl of Tone?
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>>144642359
zero chance either Jon or Stipe fights Aspinall. If Jon pulls out Stipe will retire. If Stipe pulls out Jon will call for Poatan or Ngannou or someone who can't grapple.
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>>144641840
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Based Jon waiting until Stipe is in his mid 40's before getting in the octagon with him. This is why I enjoy evilchads, they know 80% of the game is *outside* the fight.
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>>144642271
who tf is wewantpicks
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>>144642368
BSD learned the lesson of blowing his load early vs Poirier. He'll hurt Moicano a couple times then take him down and lay on him and then be too tired to finish after the 2nd round

Cap this
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not one of you stupid motherfuckers knows the damn judging criteria
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>>144642398
effectiveness goof
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>>144636526
I don’t watch your pussy sport but that tattoo is gay af and I could beat that faggots easily
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>>144642398
I'm a simple /heem/ contrarian
I see a decision, I disagree with it.
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did they solve the body triangle meta? why did it end
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Contender series today bros
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>>144642413
you see it in WMMA and undercard fights a lot. Most higher level guys are too skilled to get body triangled for a whole round.
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just got my (weekly) $100 haircut, feelin fresh and ready to heem every
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>>144642398
>*farts*
red team won 30-27. uh reason?
>*burps*
effectively execution of techniques
>*shartles in pants*
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>>144642423
yanbros.. what did he mean by this
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what criteria do ufc judges actually currently use? abc boxing outlines the current 2023 criteria wildly differently than their 2019 unified rules that many media personalities like TheWeasle term as the "new rules" or the "damage>all" rules
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I feel like Bill Murray in that muskrat movie b
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>>144642484
>>144642440
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>>144642498
if you read the 2023 rules the outlined criteria is wildly different than what many such as TheWeasle use to judge fights like in his Who Really Won series many view as definitive
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but I'm not even sure if the 2023 rules on abc boxing aren't just fucked and the criteria the judges are supposed to use is the 2019 one do any of you faggots know?
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If you watch a fight, you know who fucking won, it's not that complicated
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>>144642531
you're a moronic fucking imbecile and you don't know the judging criteria
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>>144642537
>>144642440
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>>144642542
yeah keep replying to your own stupid fucking post doesn't change the fact that you don't know the fucking judging criteria but will cry robbery anytime a fighter you don't like loses
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>>144642537
I don't need no nerd rules to know who beat the shitout of who.
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the "New Rules" or the "damage>all" rules layed out on abcboxing as the 2019 unified rules stand out but the rules before and after that are more similar it is unknown what rules any given judge uses
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the 2023 unified rules are skewed to favor grapplers as the metrics for judging effective grappling include the successful execution of techniques while the metric for striking is limited to impact alone but you stupid motherfuckers will cry about damage this damage that
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>>144642546
>>144642440
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canuck cretin thinks he's funny but is a stupid faggot who doesn't understand the judging criteria
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weight cutting is literally an ideal solution.
there are trade offs to cutting more to fight smaller guys or cutting less and fighting bigger guys
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The current unified rules according to abcboxing.com do not mention anything about damage or immediate impact weighing more than the cumulative that many cite as being cornerstones of the "new rules"
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Weight cutting is good becuase it leads to more knockouts
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>>144642589
>>144642440
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why do other mma orgs like IMMAF and MMAreferee.com still refer to the 2017/2019 “New Rules”/”Damage>ALL” rules as the up to date criteria? All anyone ever says is damage only matters and don’t score takedowns etc etc but that is NOT what the current criteria lays out
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ailin perez tight bamhole
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>>144642398
more punches thrown equals more points
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if you google “mma unified rules 2019” you will see the “New Rules” on abcboxing.com but are these not outdated? If these are the current rules that judges are using to evaluate fights then why are there so many more updated versions on abcboxing?
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>>144642330
CHIWIWIS
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>>144642529
lmfao why is this so funny the longer u look at it
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MMA judging is typically based on a set of criteria established by the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts, which are used in most major promotions like the UFC. These criteria focus on three main factors:

1. Effective Striking and Grappling (Most important)
Striking: Judges evaluate the impact of the fighter’s strikes. More damaging or significant strikes are favored over sheer volume.
Grappling: Judges assess a fighter's control and submission attempts during grappling. Takedowns, ground control, and offensive submission attempts hold more weight than simply holding positions.
2. Effective Aggressiveness (Secondary importance)
This focuses on the fighter who is more consistently trying to finish the fight through aggression, whether by attacking on the feet or in grappling exchanges. However, it only counts if it leads to effective offense.
3. Fighting Area Control (Least importance)
This is about who is controlling the Octagon or ring, forcing the opponent to retreat or stay defensive. This only comes into play when effective striking, grappling, and aggression are equal.
Scoring System:
Each round is scored on a 10-point must system. The winner of the round gets 10 points, and the loser typically gets 9 or fewer. A dominant round could result in a 10-8 score.
These criteria help ensure that the most skilled and effective fighter wins the round.
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Also the criteria cited in the ammendments of the unified rules before and after 2019 unified rules are similar if not the same to the “old rules” that TheWeasle cites. Did they really change the rules only in the 2017-2019 just to change them back in 2022?
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>>144642640
Who was tko’d like this while they were dodging punches in this similar manner
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daddysanya
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>>144642640
I had $100 on this fight finishing inside distance and this was the most crushing non-finish of my life. Ribovics punched himself out smacking Zellhuber's arms
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reminder that heeming your meng to disgusting wmma waifus is not gay and neither are traps
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>>144642651
>ground control holds more weight than holding positions
AI slop. this stupid motherfucker does not know the new unified rules. google unified rules 2023 on abcboxing.com you moronic fucking idiot
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>>144642667
this tbqh
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the criteria also explains that dominance and control duration in grappling are only to measured in terms of differentiating round scoring e.g. 10-8 vs 10-9 and etc. faggots will cry about control time being displayed on the screen but don’t know that is actually written in the fucking unified rules
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https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf
the 2019 "new rules" outline a vastly different judging criteria than all other older and more current versions of the unified rules. why?
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If a fighter, during the course of a round, visibly loses control of bodily function (vomit, urine, feces), the fight shall be stopped by the referee and the fighter shall lose the contest by a Technical Knockout (TKO) due to Medical Stoppage.
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not a single faggot in this thread or online knows the scoring criteria that the judges use because the information isn't fucking available. does anyone know what criteria the CURRENT judges are actually using? what is your source?
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is the UFC and the athletic commissions are intentionally obfuscating what criteria they are using to rob fighters and protect projects?
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Standing foot stops are NOT a foul. As such, this foul does not include stomping the feet of a standing fighter
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. A fighter may not place their fingers into an open laceration in an attempt to enlarge
the cut. A fighter may not place their fingers into an opponent's, nose, ears, mouth, or
any body cavity.
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>>144642700
Brunson won.
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The use of abusive language is not allowed during MMA competition. It is the sole
responsibility of the referee to determine when language crosses over the line to
abusive. It should be clear that fighters can talk during a match. The mere use of
auditory language is not a violation of this rule. Examples of abusive language would be
(Racially motivated or Derogatory language).
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It's crazy how no one ever talks about Chris Weidman as being one of the GOAT MWs at all.
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>>144642758
Same reason no one talks about the sky being blue anon. Everyone knows it's true and everyone agrees so why waste your breath
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>>144642758
There was a time where Rockhold and Weidman were considered two of the best pound for pound fighter in the sport
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lads which one is the current unified rules or specifically, which one is the CURRENT judging criteria?
https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/unified-mma-rules-rev-july-2024.pdf
https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf
at first glance the 2024 unified rules would seem to be the most up to date version but why does it contain the same description of the judging criteria as the unified rules all the way back in 2009?
SOURCE: https://www.nj.gov/oag/sacb/docs/2009-ABC-Discussion-and-Review-of-MMA-Report.pdf
(SEE PAGE 11)
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NOT one of you stupid faggots will admit you don't know how to score fights
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this nigga needs rules to know who won a fight, autism truly is a curse.
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>>144642787
Real Ones don't need judging criteria. We quite simply know who won the fight.
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>>144642774
I distinctly remember this time period. Now they've both been memory-holed. In terms of MW GOATS, it's just Silva and Izzy now
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>>144641410
ngannou was winning until he switched stances
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>>144642797
das rite, The Real Ones also Burn Local
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If I were running a bar I would have a cocktail named MMA, because of the mixed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUgN7sM74jg&t=182s
in this video TheWeasle refers to the 2019 Unified Rules as being the definitive and current "new rules" with the updated judging criteria. is he right?
https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf
>>144642797
youre fucking retarded. I want to know how the judges are scoring these fights or more accurately these "contests". you're afraid to admit you don't know because you're a cazzie.
>>144642797
no fucking shit but the judges use a scoring criteria. read my previous posts
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>>144641410
Conor reacting like someone who just lost a 7 figure bet
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Can people get refunds if they were sat next to Conor?
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>>144642821
also notice that the video was uploaded May 2022 when the comission had already ammended the unified rules back to the "old rules" or original judging/scoring criteria. also see https://mmareferee.com/?q=unifiedrules
using the 2019 rules? which fucking rules are current not one of you fucking idiots know but pretend
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>>144642821
Is this a bit you're doing or are you actually this autistic?
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NOT A SINGLE FAGGOT IN THIS THREAD KNOWS IF THE 2019 CRITERIA OR THE 2023 CRITERIA IS BEING USED BY JUDGES!!
>>144642856
WHAT FUCKING CRITERIA ARE JUDGES USING? THERE ARE 2 DISTINCT CRITERIA
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IF THE 2019 CRITERIA IS IN EFFECT THERES AN ARGUMENT SUGA BEAT MERAB RDS 1 3 AND 5. IF THE 2023 UNIFIED RULES ON ABCBOXING.COM ARE IN EFFECT THEN IT IS MERAB 1 2 4 MINIMUM. NO ONE KNOWS WHICH FUCKING CRITERIA THEY ARE USING. YOU LITERALLY CAN'T KNOW.
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SOMEONE FUCKING ANSWER ME WHICH CRITERIA ARE THEY USING FAG? I'M NOT GOING TO STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS!
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Just trust what theweasle says, sperg. He knows better than anyone here.
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The most recent one, why would trust a random e celeb over the updated rules?
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Tom Aspinall ran over my dog and laughed
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Tom Asspainanal
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>>144642950
like a fuckin hatchet wound
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Differnt states use different rules.
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>>144642907
he never explains why he is using the 2019 rules but hasn't updated past there. it is strange that the 2019 criteria is unique but pre and post 2019 criterias are effectively very similar. why would they update it for only a few years just to revert it? I've been a fan since 2017 and no one talks about this.
>>144642911
because the most recent unified rules according to the apparent authority on judging (abcboxing.com) is weirdly more similar to all judging criteria outlined in old documents dating at least to 2009 or the "old rules" when the 2019 rules are so wildly different to anything that came before or after.
SOURCES:
2023 rules: https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Unifed-MMA-Rules-2023-FINAL.pdf
2019 rules: https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf
"old rules": the only one I could find was the one from 2009 I linked in my post above (see page 11)
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>>144642975
but what states use what rules and who decides what rules are to be used? more importantly which state uses which CRITERIA because the updated rules on abcboxing.com seem to use the "old rules" criteria but other sites use the "new rules" criteria e.g. the 2019 abcboxing criteria.
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NOT ONE OF YOU STUPID FAGGOTS KNOWS WHICH SCORING CRITERIA THE UFC JUDGES USE AND YOU DON'T CARE
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I know and I care
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>>144643084
which ruleset are UFC judges using then bro? is it literally just down to athletic commission?
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>he doesn't know
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>>144643090
shut up
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I am the world's foremost leading expert on MMA scoring until someone can tell me otherwise
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>>144642896
based
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>>144642618
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what criteria are the fucking judges using man please...
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i'm asking cause if you research it, the most recent rules from abcboxing outlines a scoring critera more like the "old rules." the 2019 unified rules of mma, often called the "new rules" or "damage over all" rules, is often cited by media and even fighters as the most up to date scoring critera. but no one seems to have a clear answer to what the judges are useing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABg1ehcbKE
the 2023 critera laid out by abcboxing is more in line with the pre-2017 rules, but so many commentators still refer to the 2019 rules as if they’re the standard. why is there so much conflicting info about what judges actualy follow?
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>>144643194
Depends on the geographical region and whatever ufc management wants at the time
Judges and matchmaking are wwe level fake, it’s only the heems that are real dawg
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so uhhh nice weather today huh guys???
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>>144643295
>so uhhh nice weather today huh guys???
WHAT CRITERIA ARE YOU USING HUH? IS IT 2019 NICE WEATHER OR 2023 NICE WEATHER?
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>>144643294
>geographical region
>wwe level fake
what kind of faggotry is this? this isn't some conspiracy theory. the rules are right there in black and white. it’s not about what ‘ufc management wants’—judges are supposed to be following the unified rules, but no one knows WHICH version they're using because cazzies like you just throw out garbage takes about how it’s all rigged or damage etc. you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
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for fuck sake just read the FUCKING rules
>2019 "damage over all" "new rules"
https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/unified-rules-mma-2019.pdf
>2023 abcboxing current rules
https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Unifed-MMA-Rules-2023-FINAL.pdf
which one are judges using you stupid moronic faggots?
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I've been posting this shit for hours and not a single one of you has given a legitimate response because none of you know anything about the fucking sport
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A Judging Criterion
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>>144637891
damn he allowed others men to fuck this?
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*yaaaaaaaawn*
I can heem most of you fags within 2 rounds
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>>144639325
Why are they in the snack aisle
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IM never going to quit bitching about the judging until someone actually analyzed what the fuck I'm trying to say
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I'm not going to just spoonfeed you retards read the thread
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>>144643327
indians can't heem.
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Judging criteria
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the absolute STATE of heem holy fuck
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>>144643315
You don’t have the answer either dipshit, so you know nothing about the sport by your own definition
I gave you the answer that makes the most sense based off of what I’ve seen >>144643294
Just accept that a heem is a heem and move on, every single fighter knows that the judges are gay boys and if you leave it to them they will fuck you
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Judging a criteria
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>>144643352
who gives a fuck what the fighters are thinking? I love heems and hate both versions of the criteria but we can't have meaningful discussions about what is or isn't a robbery decision if we don't even know what criteria the fucking judges are using.
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>>144643341
Why are all Mexican fighters <5'5"?
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A set of rules to judge someone from
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>>144643360
So send them an email them, stop asking people to spoonfeed you
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We all have a ruleset
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>>144643369
everytime there is a robbery decision you faggots hop online and start whining about the judging and you don't even know the scoring criteria. pathetic.
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Whiteoids really spazzing out over "rules" today for some reason. Very unheemlike.
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not even heem has real fans anymore. Sad!
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well at least hes sperging out about mma for once
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>>144643362
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>>144643379
Man that strawman you built stood no chance
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>>144643382
GOODMORNING SAAR!!! thanks for the insightful take, leave it to a shitskin. imagine actually caring about the rules in a sport where the entire outcome hinges on... the rules? but nah, you're right, i should just sit back and vibe like a ‘heem’ while fighters lose decisions because no one knows what the judges are even looking at. super ‘heemlike’ and based of you to ignore the whole point of the debate
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Ruling criteria
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>>144643362
Central and South American natives were really small. IIRC correctly most Aztec males were like 5’2” and women 4’10”
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>>144643394
what strawman faggot? you don't know what the judges are fucking using and neither does any other fan who whines about robberies and casuals not knowing the criteria
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autism is off the charts in this thread
beautiful work champ
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>>144643409
You literally just projected arguments on to me that I didn’t make
Next thread I bet you’ll spend a hundred posts asking for someone to prove that Mankind and Mick Foley are two different people
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We are /HEEM/.
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Just won the argument via unanimous decision
My criteria? You can figure it out yourself
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>>144643419
don't even know what that is but you tried to argue that you knew the rules and I didn't when I never claimed to and when I asked what your source was you just said to email them. you stupid fucking faggot
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not to mention you completely ignored the entire discussion revolving the discrepancy between the anomalous 2019 rules and the pre 2019 and post 2019 rules
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I also know you didn't even read any of the shit I posted
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>>144643443
I never said I knew the rules dickhead, I said they depend on the geographical location the fight is taking place and the whims of management, only heems are real
How do you expect to find any answers if you can’t fucking read cunt?
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im convinced you don't even know how to read its my fault for expecting that you would be able to understand the difference in the criteria
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>>144643465
READ THE CRITERIA YOU STUPID CUNT. the outlier here is the 2019 rules, please don't make me re-explain the whole argument to you like a 5 year old. this place is becoming worse than reddit
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>>144643475
Because it’s fake, it depends on whose fighting and where, and who will bring in pay per views, while you are in rabbit hole you should look up the parent company of ufc, then also look up the definition of a “work”
Then go outside and talk to people
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>>144643509
yeah right lad thats why they gave the fight to Merab when they literally could have justified Sean winning the fight under the 2019 ruleset. Merab brings in soooo many ppvs he really has the exciting style that casuals crave
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just admit your a lazy faggot who never in his life took the time to read the literal criteria used to score the fucking fights. who knew this would be the debate that broke heem
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y'all nigguhs still watch this shit lmao
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>>144643526
Depends on the race of the casuals, the UFC is hell bent on becoming an international organisation, international champions help that
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>>144643546
this is a level of cope unheard of before in human history. the UFC would be beyond braindead to let their golden boy Suga who has been a project since the beginning of his career lose to a wrestler who is known for being one of the most boring fighters on the roster when the whole argument is the ruleset they use is dependent on who they want to win. faggot, the 2019 rules literally make a case for Sean winning that fight rounds 1 3 and 5. The abcboxing.com 2023 rules however justify the actual scorecards. just admit you don't know what you're fucking talking about
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MORE PROOF NONE OF YOU FAGGOTS KNOW THE JUDGING CRITERIA:
https://www.nj.gov/oag/sacb/docs/2009-ABC-Discussion-and-Review-of-MMA-Report.pdf
the 2009 new jersey athletic commission unified rules (see page 11) are literally a reworded version of the alleged abcboxing 2023 updated rules and criteria. why did the 2019 criteria vary so wildly? you don't fucking know
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>>144643578
If suga beat merab easily then there is less audience push for a rematch
Now they get to promote a title rematch and draw in the sugar fans and the mountain muds
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>>144643590
Neither do you faggot, you just have a hard time accepting that a massive profit driven organisation is going to put profit first and foremost
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wtf y'all nigguhs arguing about lmao
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>>144643644
mma
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>>144643644
theyve been at it for a while too
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>>144643609
keep coping and rationalizing your braindead position however you want but it doesn't change the fact that none of you stupid faggots know anything about the damn judging criteria
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Where was Schmitty when Putin bomb Ukraine
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>>144643644
not going to spoonfeed you its too much to rehash just read the fucking thread
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>>144643661
Then you are stupid faggot as well, because you don’t know the criteria either
Stop confusing sport with entertainment, enjoy the heems and please go outside and talk to someone, I’m serious
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I score fights based on who I want to win
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>>144643674
I know more than any of you retards who are ruining the fucking sport crying robbery after every single fight when you don't even know what you're crying about. I could literally tell you the criteria like the back of my hand at this point because I don't have the reading comprehension of an 8 year old. no point in going on with this because its obvious none of you care about this sport please just read the fucking criteria for fucks sake. the absolute fucking state man...
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>>144643675
yeah you and every other faggot who is ruining this place join the fucking club. it is literally pointless to discuss this sport with anyone because 99% of fans are sub 100 IQ and don't even bother reading the rules or criteria
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>just read the fucking thread
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>>144643706
GYATT
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another mongoloid retard to braindead to read what a surprise
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He who says he won and he who says he lost are both usually right.
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>>144643695
If you know the criteria that they are using to judge the fights then you wouldn’t be here sperging, asking which criteria that they are currently using right?
The criteria is asses on seats and retweets, aka money
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>>144643695
THE criteria?
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Henry The Judo
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>Merab is such an interest killer and an anti-fighter with so little to discuss about him that people went on a legal team level questioning of the rules to find if there are plausible ways to not count his victory
It's over by any metric.
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Caucasians stay winning

Stay mad island frogs
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>>144643736
>another doomer obsessed with le capitalism
oh okay I get it you just want to spew your leftist faggot shit into everything and we're all just retards right? I know the criteria because I fucking read it and I have an ability to comprehend what I read. You dont know the criteria, and neither does anyone who has tried to respond all night tonight but what nobody apparently knows is why the 2019 criteria is supposedly the one everyone claims is still being used when it has been updated since then to be reverted to the criteria that was synonymous with the "old rules"
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>>144643760
>leftist
Lol
Keep putting the cry in cryteria
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Amazing work, fellow Redditors, we sure analysed and debated the official UFC rules and judging criteria quite thoroughly tonight! Upvotes for everyone!
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Guys what's done is done. Nu-male wholesome chungus bros won. Merab won.
But O'Malley bros, you guys can gloat because you get one more chance at the title either way. Ali and Umar say they are giving Sean an immediate title shot despite the loss, and Merab just said on the Jake Shields Podcast that he's wants a rematch with Sean when he comes back.
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AND NEW
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>>144642369
The gloves attenuate the effect and since they have shoes and sit on their legs, they dont need to move that much to generate a lot of power



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