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Anyone else building the highest quality collection of all the content they have ever liked or been interested in or are you normal
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>>1097688
i prefer 1080p bluray remux for the most part since many 4k "remasters" are shit and complete garbage (compare for example italian mondo bluray of the good the bad the ugly vs the 4k pee-colored remaster)
but yes, i try to collect a large variety of high quality content
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>>1097737
A lot of 4K "remasters" also have an absurd amount of grain. Way more than the film negative should have ever had. I was pretty pissed getting the 4K copies of the Godfather movies only find out that the 1080p versions actually look better upscaled because of the bullshit grain.
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>>1097748
grainhating is a very reddit opinion my man
but i get what you mean. especially when it comes to film to digital transfers some are better than others
compare the three blurays of for a few dollars more, i rate them mgm > mondo > kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDiHWU6m5Ks
even though mgm bluray looks like it may have been sharpened at some point in the process it looks to has a lot more detail than the other two
the other two, especially kino, looks like its been smeared with extreme DNR and it completely ruins the look
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>>1097688
i wonder whats in bad dump
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>>1097737
grain = SOVL
what else are you gonna use those 100mbps bitrate for
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For the "bad dump" and yes its a bit of porn, but mostly games and software, I used Seagate Ironwolf drives. For the "good dump" I used 16/18TB WD red Pros. I run all these on two synology nas's
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I lost a storage drive a couple years back and have looked towards a NAS setup since.
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Sorting by size, heres an example of the largest movie files on the nas.
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>>1097836
where's the ninth gate kino?
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>>1097941
it depends on what you do with it
remember that RAID is not a backup solution, all your data depends on the availability of all your drives and lose a drive too many or issues during reconstruction and all your data is gone
snapraid (or unraid if your a payfag) is a much more sensible solution as it handles parity differently, but you lose the speed of classical RAID

but sure, probably a nas would be more reliable than external drives or most alternatives (aprat from building one yourself)
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>>1097836
do you actually watch these in a home theater or do you just like collecting?
I like collecting them but I'd rather have 1000 movies at ~10gb a pop than 200 at 50gb
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>>1097993
you use sonarr/radarr and jackett?
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>>1098001
sabnzbd and nzbhydra2 mainly. I've got sonarr, radarr and lidarr with jackett as backup
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>>1098002
nice
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>>1097688
yeah, i got about 4 TB of youtube videos and a bunch of books and shit
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>>1097688
holy shit thats a lot of storage you have on hand.
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>>1097688
Here's what's plugged in on mine right now. Also have about 20TB of anime, 8TB of music, and 10ish of other random shit on other drives not plugged in at the moment. Also offline backups of the important shit (the things that can't be easily replaced from a tracker). Download the shit you want to consume/use again. It could be gone from the internet forever tomorrow.
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>>1097952
how much more reliable is this compared to a NAS setup? i'm too lazy to setup a NAS and just wanna go your route lol
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>>1097825
>Holy shit. Where did you get that much storage from and what did it cost you?
You should see the setups of some of the guys on the r/datahoarder subreddit.
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>>1097688
which synology do you have? which one should I go with? need a better way to store my shit, with some redundancy, hopefully.
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>>1097688
>doomsday
>highest quality
Regardless of available storage size, going for "good enough" quality will always allow you to have more of everything in a doomsday scenario.If the content I like comes in a retarded bitrate I make a point of it to transcode it with more aggressive compression.
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The only software I use is the synology nas built in software. However, I did take the time to lock it down and jazz. I don't host this online or anything, its just for my household
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And yea, like someone previously said. The SHR raid setup i use (its a synology thing) only has one backup drive to take over if one fails. Both NAS's are set to shut down if anything goes wrong with a drive. I then have to swap out that drive before another fails or I could potentially lose data.
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I should also add I have never lost a drive. I do have a couple of spares sitting in a cabinet in the event something happens. I also keep both NAS's hooked up to their own UPS
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>>1098371
I have a DS418 and a DS1621+. The DS418 was purely me getting into the NAS world. The DS1621+ allowed more memory and SSD caching, however, I never utilized the caching.
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>>1097993
Oh yea, I have dual LG CX OLED, these are the newest models with the 120hz true output on 4k. I have dual desktops with 30 series cards driving them also. 5.1 system as well.
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>>1097993
I would also say im a collector. As for the size, I painfully review and download multiple versions of every movie, I try and identify what looks best compared to what sounds best... etc. I have a lot of free time.
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Another neat bit, you can run roms and iso's off a nas, so if you're like me and enjoy ELECTRONIC VIDEO GAMES then you too can have a mame setup that just uses the nas as its storage.
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>>1098239
not him, but if you shucc them, it's the same as buying internal drives, though you might have to put tape on the pins to get them to work. it's reliable enough, though no matter what your setup, you should always back up things that can't be replaced. also, remember that RAID is not a backup.
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>>1098239
I'm using these for storage and only connect to my PC when I want to write/read data. It can be inconvenient if you want to have quick and easy access 24/7 to your collection comparing to a NAS setup. When plugged in to your PC and unused they will go to sleep in 30 min or so but apparently it's possible to turn this off in WD software. Using them like this is fine for me because I have movies/anime etc that I'm currently watching on a Samsung T5 so I rarely need them plugged.
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You can hibernate the nas's also. Mine are set to sleep after 15 minutes of non-use. They take a moment to spin back up upon accessing the data. Some issues I saw with Plex when I ran it was that the drives would never sleep, even during non-use.
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>>1098392
to be fair in a doomsday your copy probably can be the last one available in the world of something, so the better the quality more chances to it last a long time.
I still remember the Rm-Rmvb 10X compression days.
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>>1098602
>the better the quality more chances to it last a long time
Maybe the quality of the backup solution, but a higher bitrate movie isn't going to somehow degrade less than a smaller one.
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>>1098413
interested in creating a torrent for these?
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>>1097688
which nas do you have? I'm looking to buy one and I'm trying to understand if they are noisy or not
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Are you gonna have electricity in a doomsday? Even if you use a generator, is enjoying content really gonna be your highest priority?
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>>1097688
I only hoard video games and movies I liked or want watch in near future, in 1080p or 4k quality. Used to be massive hoarder, now I have only filled 2 2TB hard drives.
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>>1099760
You can make sure to have electricity in a doomsday but not the internet.
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>>1099828
after all the censured DVDS and always-online DRM, I'm glad that I have my stock of good shit
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>>1099853
>after all the censured DVDS
like?
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>>1097688
i would love to but its very expensive.
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>>1097941
you can construct a full computer with raid card and spare to handle 8-16 disks for the cost of a 4 disk nas. most people poo poo hardware raid but there are maybe two companies that make cards and you can drop an array onto a different series card and it will just work and is completely transparent to the os.
>>1097833
if you have cash to burn do this
>>1097952
if you want bang for buck you shuck.
i have an 8x8 raid for daily use all shucked would have got maybe 5 disks bare for the same price its really insane.
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>>1099871
in some countries certain content in movies and games is banned like in germany.
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>>1098246
One of the few still genuinely good subreddits that haven't devolved into powermod politisperging
[spoiler]]yet[/spoiler]
just nerds having fun
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>>1100490
dammit
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>>1097748
>I was pretty pissed getting the 4K copies of the Godfather movies
what
but they didn't come out yet
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>>1097889
>the ninth gate
Now thats kino i havent watched in years.
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How to make a NAS cheap and simple edition:
grab old server mother board with cpus included
connect as many large drives in budget
put arch on it.
set up raid
sshd on it
rsync to upload files, sshfs to retrieve files.
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>>1102709
>set up a raid
any good guides?
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>>1102714
pacman -S paru
paru raid
pick one
man `whatever you picked`
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>>1102722
thanks, was driving myself insane using mdadm
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>>1097952
I have a My Book 12tb I got for like 190 euros or something. It was a steal. However now it's full, and I think I'm going to be buying a Synology when I have the money

>>1097833
Which are more durable, WD Red Pro's or Ironwolf Drives?
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>>1097688
70 fucking terabytes.
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>>1099871
there's always changes, I still remember when they changed the voice of jim carey in dumb and dumber in my country, fuck that made me mad, I still can't find a version with the original dub, i don't buy animes from official release in my country because they chop shit because of censorship
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>>1104686
look harder, it really isn't hard to find things
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>>1104689
most all versions of this movie online are from the DVD with the new Dub, there's a version that someone used the audio from the VHS in the DVD but it's in a really shitty quality. I used this example because was one of the first times that I realized that you need to have a copy of things that you enjoy
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>>1104691
look harder
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My 176 TB NAS just died. Fun times.
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for those that want to conserve space there's Tdarr for those collections. I put my non porn to 480P and dont mind the quality difference but most of you will want to transcode to x265 for compression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UMjTlwrxs
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how useable are NAS systems (ex. Synology)? is it as simple as buy a system, plug in your HDDs, and it all just works as a separate file system that you access through the network?

i have a bunch of 8 TB hard drives that im managing separately, wondering if i should look into NAS to make things easier
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>>1104830
>is it as simple as buy a system, plug in your HDDs, and it all just works as a separate file system that you access through the network?

Pretty much yes. You have to define a shared folder in the web UI and optionally enable the guest user (disabled by default) if you don't want to password protect the share.

Note that existing data on the drives will be lost. It's best to buy new drives for the NAS, copy the files over from the old disks (the NAS has a USB port and sometimes even e-sata) and then store the old ones somewhere as a last-resort backup.
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>>1104832

bit of a bummer that existing data is wiped, guess I'll have to buy the whole setup new then... in the long run though, i'm guessing it's worth it

any other brands beside synology i should look into?
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>>1104835
>any other brands beside synology i should look into?
You can have a look at FreeNAS, which is basically a linux optimized for NAS usage, but I think it may be named "TrueNAS CORE" now. Useful if you have a spare computer you want to use.
Alternatively there's also QNAP.
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>>1097836
from what im seeing
those are BD raw files
that explains 50-70 gb size
unless that anon went full sperg and re-encoded his movies in 4k
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>>1097748
lmao i just settle for the 720p 1 gb file instead of the highdef ultra realism file using 20gb
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>>1105278
at least go for 1080p
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>>1100350
>i would love to but its very expensive.

Its a matter of time/money.

It was expensive, but it was up and running in only a few minutes, and it's basically bulletproof. Just don't do anything stupid and expose it to random internet connections.

I use a bittorrent client on the NAS integrated with Sonarr, Radarr that goes out over a VPN and gets my stuff. This is all put into Plex.

Works like a charm.
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>>1098407
>>1098230
>>1097834
How old / what do you anons do for a living?
Really want a 4bay Nas with two 12tb drives, aprox $1200k, but am a broke fag.
what do. need more storage but that money could go to drinks or whores.
currently paying $120 a year for dropbox though... what do.
thanks for sharing setups.
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>>1107860
build your own nas. synology overprices their hardware.
get any pc and put a nas os on it like OMV. throw in some drives and you're done
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>>1107870
sweet.
wanted to make a OMV raspberry pi, but hard to do RAID with that,
Repurposing an old desktop would be better.
thanks
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>>1107870
>>1104832
>>1106475
Can I seed torrents off of a NAS?
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>>1107885
>hard to do RAID with that
no its not. in omv you can do a software raid when making a new filesystem
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>>1108139
yes
depending on what OS you use you can deploy a torrent application and let it run.
synology has one in its applicationstore (transmission if i'm correct) and for omv and truenas you can work with docker/portainer.
i run omv as os and deployed a qbittorrent stack in portainer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLM2sgMbXmY
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>>1108144
What do the upload speeds look like, would i be better off just getting a 8TB SSD to seed from? Internet is not a chokepoint
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>>1108146
first off all i would not suggest getting a ssd for seeding because it will destroy the chips on the drive faster from the constant r/w. just get a nas drive or any other desktop drive and you're good.
and if you really feel like it you can put multiple in a raid array.

so far my max upload has been 40MB/s on the seeding upload and 100MB/s transfer from server to my desktop (last one may be bottle necked by my desktop drive)
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>>1108155
Is any diskstation able to do this or do i need to get a NAS server? something like a DiskStation DS216?
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>>1108159
os should be the same on all
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>>1108159
>>1108170
forgot tutorial link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwE-1s4xTGw
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>>1108171
>>1108170
Thanks anon!

For any anons lurking I found this
https://mariushosting.com/how-to-install-qbittorrent-on-your-synology-nas/
https://mariushosting.com/can-i-run-docker-on-my-synology-nas/ and looking through ebay it seems demand for these things is pretty high
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>>1108227
no problem

also if possible try to use portainer instead of docker. managing your containers is way easier in portainer with its so called stacks
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>>1098002
what OS/program is this? I set up an ubuntu server with SMB and Jellyfin; it's working fine, but it doesn't have auto import with RSS, or at least I don't know how to set up something like that.
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>>1104441
I thought it'll be better if you build your own and install xpenology. What's the advantages of buying Synology?
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i have money to burn and i want an absolute OVERKILL setup, one where much like OP it's just an insane amount of data storage that's reliable that i will definitely never need

any suggestions or should i just slap a bunch of the seagate 16tb's into a synology nas?
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>>1109591
synology is overprised
get an old workstation and throw in some drives
install an linux server os to your liking (probably trunas or omv if you want a experience close to synology)
configure a raid array for your disks
install software and you're set
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>>1109557
form factor and convenience. I bought a 2 drive one used on ebay fro 250 and i dont need to bother setting anyhting up and it sits neatly on my desk. Stuff like >>1109595 will always take up more space unless you build yourself a custom case
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>>1109599
those 1l and sff workstations wont take up much space
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>>1109595
i did just upgrade my pc and my old tower still has its parts with which i was wondering what to do with

does it need a gpu? i want to rip out anything that makes noise, but it does have a really old i7 (3rd gen)
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>>1109764
>does it need a gpu?
no, you only need a gpu if you want to stream from that machine with hardware encoding
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>>1109599
>sits neatly on my desk.
my 846's sit neatly in my rack and don't use up any desk space.
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>>1097688
checked
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>>1098411
God tier setup.

You see the new samsung built QD oleds coming out this year?
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>>1097688
>71.5 TB.
How much did it cost?
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>>1097688
holy momma. Always wanted to get into archiving but I'm a poorfag
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>>1109591
This is how I look at it, I didn't want any headaches.
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>>1110949
Yep, it just gets crazier and crazier
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>>1110952
Just two of the 18tb drives cost 1100 and some change, to give you an idea.
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>>1112252
why so expensive? I got a 14TB WD HDD at best buy late last year for $250. Is the red line a more reliable lifespan?
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>>1112281
These drives cost a little more than others because they are designed to run 24/7 in a NAS configuration for years at time and come with a great warranty as well. Most drives today are very reliable when they are used for their intended designed purpose. It looks like he paid the MSRP price so maybe he bought them when they first came out.

>>1107885
Is that Queen Elizabeth? There is nothing I wouldn't do for the sexy Bong Queen.
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>>1112281
>>1112392
some buy the wd external hdd's with 8tb or more since they contain white label drives which are actually the nas and enterprise drives, mut much lower price. and take it out of its casing. its called shucking
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>>1112564
why you so mad, brother?
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>>1097688
I have been building mine up for the past 4 years on LocalShit. RemoteShit was built this time last year for just faster upload.

A friend allowed me to put a server in their basement for FiOS speeds, as LocalShit is only cable sadly.
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I'm a absolute nas noob so please stay with me.
I want a nas that has two separate drives/systems. One for general media consumption (movies, music, etc) and one for longtime storage of big files and once a year backups using a tape storage. The reason is because I can get very cheap tapes through my job of different sizes and brands. If I need to build it myself using a raspberry then that's fine.
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>>1112392
>Is that Queen Elizabeth? There is nothing I wouldn't do for the sexy Bong Queen.

Yes it is.
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>>1114548
i'm planning on building my first own real nas to replace my pi. how much storage would you suggest?
i was thinking about 4x 4tb in raid 5 (so 12tb of usable storage).
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>>1097833
doesn't data degrade and corrupt on drives overtime when it is stored without electricity like that in your pic?
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>>1114982
yes
you data can even corrup even when the drives are powered. i think this also happened to linus techtips.
just make sure you scrub trough the data once in a while and you're good. some most nas os'ses have an option to automatically scrub the data
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>>1102748
Huh? MDADM works very well and it's quite easy to set up. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:SwifT/Complete_Handbook/Software_RAID
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>>1097941
It all comes down to:
1. quality of hard drives
2. quality of NAS itself

I got a 4-bay QNAP NAS w/ good hard drives probably about 10 years ago now. The hard drives have outlasted the NAS. About 4 years ago, the NAS MB died and I was able to arrange a replacement MB and got it back up and running. I backup to AWS now though.

NAS is not a backup solution. It just provides convenience to store and load files on the network w/o thumbdrives, etc...
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>>1109595
Using desktop drives in a raid is a sure way of wearing them out fast
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>>1115542
NAS absolutely can be a backup solution. If you're backing up to the NAS, it's a backup solution. Very simple.
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>>1115784
How exactly? RAID shares/distributes requests between disks. If nothing reads/writes to the disk, there is almost zero additional operations, and the regular torrenting is no different than torrenting on a single drive.

The important difference between consumer and “professional” drives is error recovery timeout. If there's an error on reading/writing some sector, the drive can try to fix it internally, re-read or remap the data, and it can spend a lot of time on that. IIRC, standards allow up to 8 seconds, because they came from the '80s, and the agreeable responsiveness of a personal computer could be much lower then. If you were OK with the program being blocked for some seconds when saving 100 KB file to a floppy, you were OK with the hard disk figuring it out for some time. The spin-up and seek times were also not as tiny as we expect them now.

However, you don't want all that to happen if you have error recovery on the higher level, like a RAID, volume mirroring, or some other fault-tolerant storage scheme. In this case, disks should just report the errors as fast as they detect it, so that the data from the good copy can be used in response, and possibly in background overwrite/remap of a bad copy. One request hanging for some time or getting timeout because of the disk error is probably not an issue, but if you are unlucky, the whole server application/system might hang for seconds, and even repeatedly. For some systems, the possibility of hanging for seconds is as bad as a bomb explosion in the data center. So that's why you have “RAID disks” with small timeouts, but there is not much difference in their wear given the same usage.

Various “green drives” (not WD Green specifically) with varying speeds, nonsensical “energy efficient” auto spin-downs and head parking, and mismatching insides under the single brand/series can also pose unexpected problems for RAID controllers, as those like disks to behave as similarly as possible.
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>>1097688
i do save most of the good stuff. without having an insane storage capacity.
the exception is liked videos on youtube. it pisses me off how they keep disappearing and youtube doesn't even show you what the video was, not the name or channel even.
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>>1117091
youd probably wanna just post lots of places, /wsr/ /g/ and here
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>>1100365
I use an old Poweredge r720x, 12 drives, dual xeon. Hardware raid. All shucked WD drives. (I won't own Seagate;too many failures). There's so much processing power, I also run a Plex server on it. , and can run many more servers.
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Used to have a ReadyNAS NV+, 4x2TB for 6TB storage.
Moved to a Synology 1520+ last year, 5x4TB SHR-2 for 12TB storage.
With the newer, better system, Radarr & Plex, I managed to kill the remaining 6TB in 10 months that took me 10 years to do previously. I'm just wrapping up migrating to 16TB EXOS drives, 3rd one is adding itself to the drive pools as I type this.
Why Synology? I have the cash to do so. I can build my own system, but as a Macfag, I can't shove a 5 disk array into an iMac. Besides, Synology is way cheaper than a Mac solution.
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I'm a kind of hoarder too with 150tb of stuff but i don't care a shit of NAS. I just buy external hd's and plug them in when needed.
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>>1118150

You using one of those USB SATA bays (pic related)?

Juggling HDDs around like they were old floppies.
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>>1118399
not him, but i do this. one day ill pull a richfag and buy more raw than i have stored, and move it into raid to mitigate data loss; but so far im using 1 2 bay hdd reader like that and another 1 bay just like that. currently have about 5 drives plugged into my computer for a total of 16 tbs and have 4 hdds sitting on my desk in a pile ready to be used
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>>1112238
If you can get drives overtime it is doable
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>Testing new 18TB HDD I got
>Transfer speed is 2 GB/s on 6 GB file
how
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>Have a bunch of spare pc parts
>would just need to buy a case and drives and can set up a NAS
I don't have an out of the way place to put another PC, so i was looking for a small "nice" looking case
How "soundproof" are cases like the Sliger S620 or the NR200 to deal with Hard drive clicks?
Or should I give in and get something like the bequiet cases?
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>>1122969
bequiet cases are good in general but keep in mind that fans may be the loudest components. i recently replaced the intake and exhaust fans of my homeserver/seedbox with a noctula ones and it made a huge difference
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>>1118399
Dont those connect via usb 3? Pretty slow.
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>>1126609
usb 3 is pretty fast.
faster than a hdd is internally.
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I use an HP Proliant microserver GEN8

It has 5 SATA port
4 removable HDD racks
8Gb of DDR3 (max support 16Gb)
a G1610T dual core 35W celeron on C204 intel chipset

Those were dirt cheap, might have paid less than $150 3 years ago.

Software is OPEN MEDIA VAULT

I very good NAS oriented ditro.

Very good way to save money to invest in storage.
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>>1116132
Absolutely retarded post. You should be backing up your NAS on tapes (or a cloud if you are a globohomo nigger)
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>>1097688
I am unironically backing up 10tb onto bluray at the moment to keep shit safe from solar flares, can't wait till its fucking done because I only have 30tb in storage and shits all backed up until I can put it into the deep archive
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>>1128975
>his nas doesn't use tape
everyone is laughing @ u rn
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>>1129053
How can a NAS use tape?
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>>1097688
Yeah, mostly collecting the most important papers on mathematics and uranium purification
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what hard drive do you recommend?/ should i get?
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>>1131896
If you want to permanently keep files, use blu ray M-Disc. Those have an inorganic titanium dye and are provably extremely durable. I keep them at offsite locations. Other than that, according to Backblaze HDD statistics, it doesn't matter much whether WD, Toshiba or Seagate. Just make sure you use ZFS, ReFS or BRTFS filesystem since those have self healing abilities in case of bitrot.
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I'm poor but I want to store my 100gb flac
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>>1131164
It reads, writes, and is connected to the network. What exactly about this confuses you.
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>>1097836
where do you find the torrents for these? whenever i try and find a good 4K remux it has 0 seeders
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>>1097688
any recommendations for a 4-6 bay nas under 1k$
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>>1098411
What do you do for a living?? I barely can afford a rig with a 3080 :')
Amazing setup btw!

Also, I have a question. Does Synology software have a good protection against ransomware and the likes? QNAP has some problems with ransomwares and I would't mind paying extra if it means I can store my things safely.
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>>1114982
>doesn't data degrade and corrupt on drives overtime when it is stored without electricity like that in your pic?
Not that guy, but I do keep a set of archive hard drives unpowered on the shelf. It's easy if you have hard drive docks installed in a full tower case. Three drive docks fit in the space of two 5.25 inch drive spaces.

About every year or so, I copy the data to another drive and then reverify the data. The previous drive then gets wiped and becomes available to be the target drive for a different drive also being copied. By recopying the data, I refresh the magnetic bits which can weaken over time.

I'm aware DiskFresh exists. I don't use that DiskFresh utility to read and re-write files on the same drive.
http://www.puransoftware.com/DiskFresh.html

https://www.howtogeek.com/660727/bit-rot-how-hard-drives-and-ssds-die-over-time/
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>>1118399
>You using one of those USB SATA bays (pic related)?
Not that guy, but I use external drive docks too. Their advantage is that they allow the drive to be removed easily and put back on the shelf when done.

PICREL is the Kingwin KF-3001 hard drive bay. It fits three hard drives into the space of two 5.25 inch drive bays. So even if you don't intend to swap drives in and out of the case, it will allow you to fit three drives into the space of two.
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>>1134860
Just use Windows Server and a hardware RAID card capable of RAID 10 or better, optional cache battery. That's what I'm using for my first level. I'm setting up a new box that will just have RAID 1 sets as backup targets for the original RAID 10. Problem I am facing however is I am running out of space and don't necessary want to deal with "islands" of storage but that's unavoidable. I am not going to repurpose an old enterprise SAN though it is tempting and available, but I'm not paying for that power overhead
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>>1097836
>not having all the LOTR movies in 4K HDR over 100GB each
NGMI
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>>1097760
last nights bad chicken curry
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johnny is a fat neek lmao
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>>1137540
eh for everyone but hipster dorks the ~50gb x265 encodes with shitty sharpening shaders are fine
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>>1118399
I know what you mean, been using an Orico 8 bay SATA enclosure for about a year and its served it purpose. Ive now accumilated almost 200TB of data(porn) and ive finally considered layin down $1500aud for the Synology 8 bay.Im starting to worry about data loss and corruption as its happened to many files over time, NAS has a few ways to repair corruptions as they happen. Another problem with enclosures is heat, ive replaced the internal fans with Noctuas although the Synology NAS's are fking sweet.
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>>1142089
i have a Synology 718+ & 1019+ the fans that come with the nas are really good my drives stay below 115f (my hot drive) & below 100f (normal drives) in low fan mode. both are WD red
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>>1126609
they connect via usb 3.1 or esata both faster than most hdds by default.
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>be broke
>tb hdds on ebay for like 15$
>can just buy a sata for usb cable for like 5$
has anyone done this?
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>>1097688
Lemme upgrade my desktop first anon. Got a shitload of 320gb Seagate Pipelines sitting here doing nothing that I can add to the spare bays.

Gonna have to make do with them cause I already got way over 8tb of vidya on three other drives and no time to curate all of that fast enough.

Might start hoarding old CN shows I watched in my childhood like Megas and a handful of chink cartoons I have good memories of.

Music I already have too fucking much and too disorganized
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>>1143070
>Megas
loved that show. its sad it got canceled due to messy legal reasons
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>>1102709
use win7, it's WAY easier than setting up Arch and it also runs on any old system
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seagate or wd? the eternal debate..
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>>1145328
I've never had a WD die on me, I buy exclusively WD blacks, and for over 10 years now. I've bought 1 seagate 15 years ago and its the only drive that ever died on me, after I used it for 10 years straight, ALWAYS ON.
They are both great HDD companies.
I just like the performance boost of the WD black line.
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I prefer WD because they provide WD Quick Formatter tool. It can format big capacity disk Windows XP compatible. Seagate lacks that kind of software as far as i know. Of course most people don't need XP compatibility on modern drives but that's my criteria.
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>>1097688
when I get enough to buy a NAS, I might do that.
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>>1147174
Start now brother, the content may become hard or impossible to find later on.
It doesn't have to be a prober NAS, just store it on an old HDD and hope it lives until you get a NAS.
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I have 8x 16TB in 2x 4bay USB3 enclosures. Redundancy is snapraid. Backup to LTO. i3 8th gen NUC is the computer it's hooked to.
Debian is the OS and i too use Docker, but couldn't arsed to install a frontend yet.

I use Samba and NFS to export the file shares and Jellyfin for my media stuff.

If you start, set a CamelCamelCamel price alarm for 16TB USB3 disks on Amazon and buy one after the other. Use snapraid for parity. Get gud. Save everything. EVERYTHING.

>>1108514
Appears to be a Docker frontend of some sort. Maybe Portainer? Underlying OS could be anything that supports Docker.
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Information is a weapon
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>>1149874
You are like a babby!
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Step aside. Big boi's coming in.
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>>1097688
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>>1118399
You can find used NASs on Ebay and Amazon that are relatively affordable ($200-$300). You don't need anything too crazy either. A lot of 4 Bay Synology NASs support up to 12-16 TB drives.

If you're using the HDD bays you'll at least want to make sure that they USB is 3.0 or your data transfers will be slowed down a little bit.

>>1116158
I'm looking to swap my drives out and looking at some WD blues on amazon. I didn't know there was any difference between certain Hard Drives, I figured the terms were marketing purposes. What's the difference between WD Red, Blue, etc..?

>>1126609
Doesn't SATA 3 only transfer at 6 Gbps..? USB 3.0 transfers at 5 Gbps.. Am I missing something?
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>>1097833
Only an idiot placed HDDs close to a Speaker,
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>>1108514
It's Portainer. It manages your docker containers and images through a web interface.
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>>1109599
You're wasting your money bro.
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>>1151394
wtf is the point of using synology NAS? Just use ubuntu server and mergerFS and call it a day. I really don't understand the point of buying over priced, underpowered hardware.
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>>1151401
They work just fine so far bro but thanks for the concern :)
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>>1151740
I have the money for the overpriced its already done for me hardware
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>>1151878

If anyone is interested in building a large database can get in touch with me.

350 TB Server with Movies, TV Shows, Documentaries, Games etc.

Movies = 114.5TB (8,300+ Titles)
TV Shows/Documentaries = 153.7TB (2,300+ Titles)
Games = 50TB

I sell hard disks/servers pre-loaded.

Can download the list of content here:

https://file.io/vLk6J0Bej0Wh

All the content is ready and organized for KODI and PLEX.
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Is the WD Ultrastar DC HC550 3,5'' HDD 18TB good for NAS use??
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>>1108139
>Can I seed torrents off of a NAS?
Yes, you can as per >>1108144

However, keep in mind that NAS is not some miraclemagic thingiemabob that preserves & extends the life of your HDDs. You have numerous tweaks and options to reduce the wear on your NAS (and thus, all the HDDs in it). By setting your NAS up as a torrent server, you are subjecting the entire array to additional wear by having it rarely go to sleep and constantly reading & writing. You might gain some speed advantages, but they don't make that big a difference in upload/download times. If you grab a torrent in 2 hours at regular speed, you're unlikely to grab it in 90 minutes with a NAS.

Do what you want for your own needs, but a "better" option is to keep the NAS local for your own use with power save and sleep options to reduce wear on it. This makes it your personal, stable archive and you don't have to worry (as much) about replacing failed drives or other heavy maintenance. For your investment $$s, it will last longer and require fewer repairs & replacements.

Torrent off a separate system, even use external drives. So long as you immediately copy torrents to your NAS so they are backed up, you can use these (cheaper) drives as sacrificial data devices. They can fail at any moment and you lose nothing, and you can abuse them all you want to without fear. If/when they fail, just get a new, cheap HDD at whatever capacity/price point is available on the market and fill it with whatever torrents you want to seed. Much less hassle & expense than wearing your NAS down and having to replace more expensive NAS drives/parts.

Just offering an alternate option to consider. My NAS is not available to the world for many reasons such as privacy, security, & malware. My torrent box is everyone's whore and can go tits-up at any moment for any reason and I lose zero data. It's a philosophy of compartmentalizing my exposure while vastly reducing my data archive vulnerabilities to hacking & tech failure.
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Hey I'm interested. Email me.

TopDollar93@protonmail.com
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>>1151883
hey Jay, I think your file got deleted, care to reupload?
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>>1097952
>buying 4 16 TB instead having a scalable 20+ TB NAS system
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>>1098407
Honestly I've been considering investing in a Synology NAS myself. Problem I don't which one to choose.
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>>1153521
I can recommend the 4xx series, I have a 416Play, just as good now as when I got it almost 6 years ago, quiet and reliable.
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Does a fully-loaded NAS get loud? What are the quietest hard drives at each capacity? Looking to buy 4/6/8TB NAS drives.
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Do you anons have by any chance more of this photo series?
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>>1097688
I only have around 14 TiB usable but yes, I'm building a personal high quality archive. I'm being picky to make the 14 TiB work. I recommend buying conventional air filled drives instead of helium drives, helium drives are guaranteed to start leaking at >5 years of age until there's no more helium left and the head loses its precision and can't read the data anymore, air filled drives can survive decades if you're not unlucky. Endgame solution is tape but expensive and not as practical
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>>1154047
My recently shucked WD Elements 8TB are super quiet. The more drives you have loaded in the system the louder it will be of course and case sound dampening plays a role as well. I would just place the machine in another room, because any HDD will be audible.
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>>1149154
This is a very sane setup. Don't get enterprise gear just to run a NAS. Redditors don't think this through and pay outrageous amounts for power. USB enclosures feel kind of wrong but it's the only way to have lots of drives and a low power system (low power systems always limited in I/O), if you don't mind around 50 watts idle build a recent gen Intel system with ITX/ATX motherboard depending on how much expandability you need.

>>1155987
Sadly the highest you can get with air filled drive is around 8TB, I wish they would make larger ones but I presume the 3.5inch form factor just doesn't fit more. Maybe with SMR but they don't really make those
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>>1099851
>not the internet.
HAM
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>>1097688
yep.
stores all the porn, games and other backups.
storage is setup in a ZFS Mirror so i get error correction and then backed up to a cold drive every now and then.
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For now I'm just using a home server I built out of HP Prodesk with 2x 8TB HDDs. They're not in RAID, but one is just a nightly maintained copy of the other. The system also runs a bunch of other services and is only available through VPN from the open internet.

I'm not that fuzzed about getting every movie and show under the sun so I'm slowly collecting by buying DVDs, blu-rays and console games to emulate from thrift shops at throw-away prices. At least this way I have hard-copies as well in case of catastrophic system failures and I don't have to worry about knocks on the door from poorly done anonymization. I had a few of these systems so I have plenty of spares in case any individual part fails.

Works fine for now and the power consumption isn't too bad at all since it's by design a low-ish power system (the PSU is 280W) , but I will be looking at something different in the future. Maybe a PI setup.
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>>1097688
How should absolute noob(who loves datahoarding) should start this?

The best advice I've gotten so far was: “play with some stuff, break some stuff and learn” from r/datahoarding
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>>1098411
shit tier desk. Can't put your legs under? What, do you just lean forward all the time???
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>>1102714
I use an encrypted zfs zraid2 on my 8 disk array. It's not as fast as hardware raid but it's piss eary to setup and should work with all systems that have zfs support. Should be somewhat equivalent to raid6.
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Just upgraded my space, noticed that it seemed to take a little longer loading things after I increased the size, so I'm gonna try to upgrade the ram this weekend.
It's a DS416Play so it only has 1gb of ram to begin with, I'm going to put in an 8gb card.
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>>1157774
its my living room, not pictured, the couch, lol
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>>1156517
OP here, I just went out and bought this stuff after losing an 8tb drive full of media. I looked at the overall failure rate of NAS drives and the ease of synology.
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>>1098002
>runs everything in a container
What a little bitch, why the fuck would you need to deploy half this shit. Did you get filtered by the setup? Deploying qbittorrent even, what the fuck am I reading.
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This is normal, right /t/?

The last three are externals.
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>>1159940
Totally normal.
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interested in getting a NAS for jellyfin, but worried about drive failure
how long do NAS drives typically last? should i be backing it up regularly in case of failure?
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im too brain dead to set up a NAS and im new to data hoarding, starting with the shows and movies i like, i grabbed a 6TB HDD and i've got another one on the way
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>>1160517
always have backups
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is it ok to get an external usb backup for my nas to backup to regularly? or is there another method as in via ethernet, so another nas for the nas.
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Effort post incoming.

>>1098408
>>1098409
>>1098410
>I have never lost a drive.
I lost all my shit without losing a drive too. Short version controller freaked out and yeeted my shit. You should always have a backup. I assume you won't listen just like I didn't until it happens the first time.

>>1153521
>>1104830
>>1134860
>>1151394
Synology is overpriced garbage and I doubt it even has bitrot protection. Don't listen to these dipshits and spend over a thousand dollars on 200$ worth of PC hardware and a case that can fit 4 drives.
>>1151394
> are relatively affordable ($200-$300). You don't need anything too crazy either. A lot of 4 Bay Synology NASs support up to 12-16 TB drives.
Overpriced GARBAGE
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>>1107860
>>1102714
>>1104835
Listen, this is what you do.
1.) Get any desktop computer you can find made in the last 15 years (do not use a raspberry pi or other SBC).
1a.) The only requirements really are either a 1gbps ethernet port (or add a cheap networking card. 10$ tops) and an okay PSU (enough for the computer and drives). You need maybe 4gb of ram which is easy even if it's DDR2
1b.) Don't believe me? The Synology DS420, the current 'value' 4-bay NAS has a *dual core* CELERON, two 1gpbs ethernet ports, and TWO gigabytes of ram with a max of 6gb. Any pc you pick out of the trash will wipe the floor with this. For this dual core celeron with 2gb of ram you will pay 600$ on amazon right now. They are _overpriced garbage_

2.) Put linux on it using a small HDD (just enough for the OS, maybe 20-25gb, you can get a used hdd for 15$ from goharddrive). It can be anything. I like artix.

3.) Attach HDDs you want to use via SATA.
3a.) If you don't have enough SATA ports, get a host bus adapter (*not* a hardware raid card, though if already have one most can be used in HBA mode). You can add 8 ports for about 70$ for a good one, ex an LSI 2308. You can also add this later.
3b.) You don't even technically need a case but you should probably have one that can mount all your HDDs.

4.) Setup your raid array. USE BTRFS because it has far and away the best features. Nothing else has bit-rot detection and you can add drives to the array (any raid level, even 5 or 6) without even taking the array offline. You can also migrate between raid levels, so you could start with just one drive if you wanted. It will automatically use the space most efficiently (see: https://www.carfax.org.uk/btrfs-usage/). Make sure to set the metadate to raid1c3 if you're using raid 5 or 6.

5.) Setup samba.

6.) That's it. You can make a NAS yourself that will be infinitely more expandable, significantly higher performance, and all around better easily. Synology is TRASH.
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>>1162125
I forgot to mention:
>USE BTRFS because it has far and away the best features.
You can use ANY amount of ANY size drives in ANY combination with ANY raid level (aside from impossible things, like raid 1 with one drive) and it will automagically just work.
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>>1162124
I threw this together in a couple minutes. This will hold 10 harddrives with space for more and absolutely crush any reasonably priced synology NAS.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hG24Zw
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>>1162135
I should mention some things (vs. the DS420 at 100$ more):
4x as many threads
8x as much ram
2.5x as many drives
??? more space for the OS
etc.
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>>1157796
What case is that?
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OP Here, found a deal last night, 18tb reds for half off, picked up 3 and plan on replacing some 8s running in my 4 bay synology.
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>>1135585
Surely you will wear the drive out quicker this way?
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Can someone explain what a NAS is and how it works, and why it's better than conventional storage? My limited technical knowledge of networking tells me it's just drives that can be accessed via a network but you'd need wifi/wired and that seems counter intuitive to only have the convenience of accessing them on a network.
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>>1162756
You can easily set up a NAS so it's connected directly to your PC or whatever you plan on using with it.
Mine is set up in a way that even if I lose internet I can still access everything locally.
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I have about 30+ TB of storage right now, but stuck on shit internet until I can get it fixed.

I might as well ask if any data hoarders here have it, but I need a coomer file. Does anyone here have:

Katarina Kozlova (Monroe)
Danni Ashe
Shay Laren
Princess Helayna
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Who has long-term experience with 7200RPM drives running 24/7? How do those hold up compared to 5400?
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>>1134730
Russian trackers
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>>1142089
How about sharing that collection?
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I lost everything when terramaster got deadbolted.
Just make sure you protect your shit properly.
It's probably better to not even have a NAS alot of the time, just a RAID enclosure could be better.
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>>1166169
Spooky
I should plug in my external HDD and do another backup.
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>>1097688
whats your set up? do you use raid? are they nases?
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>>1153520
>instead having a scalable 20+ TB NAS system
what is this/what does it look like?
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>>1155992
WD black 7200 rpm 10tb is air filled.
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>>1165189
I have never lost a drive, but have done a heap of research and asked every I.T. friend I know. Best reliability will be with 5400 drives but the are limited in capacity. "Best" doesn't seem to be much difference with modern drives. It's mostly manufacturing tolerances are towards 7200 and that just gives you more
room for issues that not become failures with 5400. Spinning faster for faster response wears things out faster. Closer platters for more capacity in the same size package require closer tolerance.
I have extensive backups off site at 2 seperate locations of about 40tb each. These are on 4tb 5400rpm drives.
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>>1100372
Yep. They were still censoring the wolfenstien secret levels in new releases of doom 2 as recently as 2019 in Germany. In Australia the policeman zombies dont show up in Left 4 Dead 2 because of some law that you cant portray violence against the police in games. I wonder if they have GTA V in Australia?
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>>1100350
Just use a pi
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>>1105278
So you're never going to replace your main monitor to higher resolution one? Think of the future and how garbage the viewing experience will be. Have you ever watched a 480p on a 75` 4k monitor?
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>>1160809
I just want you to know I'm also retarded
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just entered this type of threads, I'm interested, what are you primarily archiving? Music? Books? I've heard people are archiving a whole sections of private torrents
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>>1128975
You're fucking stupid. A backup, as the name implies, is a backup of data. A copy. The medium does not matter. If you are copying your files to a NAS dedicated to backup then that is a backup.

A NAS isn't "where you store your files for use later". Its a network attached storage. You can dedicate this storage to whatever you want. It being on tape or 'in the cloud' (aka someone else's SAN) does not make it a 'backup'. It being a copy makes it a 'backup'. Its a question of separation, economics, and speed needed to access the data.

I don't see how datahoarding faggots manage to over complicate this simple idea. good lord.
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>>1097833
is there a good guide on how to set this up? did you wait for the red drives to go on sale? pretty pricey.

how fast are nas drives when it comes to rendering large mbit/s videos like 8k vr? i'd assume a HDD isn't fast enough for it but I don't know if a nas drive is different
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JAV hoarders, how do you store your library? I have folders for each idol. Some videos have multiple idols so I have multiple of the same video for each idol. Do you keep all videos in each idol's collection or only in whoever is listed first or something?
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>>1097952
>>1104441
I've read somewhere! (probably here) that MyBooks have some sort of hw encryption. Apparently this links hd to box and you can't recover stored content in case of adapter failure or shuckling. No idea about this being legit or not.
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>>1169625
JavTube plugin for Jellyfin
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>>1169151
It isn't a proper backup unless it's to floppy disks! :-P
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>>1171658
I know you're memeing, but M-disc is incredible anon
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>>1115107
This is making me paranoid. I'm new to archiving, how do I scrub drives?
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>>1172156
High grade RAID setup.
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>>1169625
can't you make links instead of wasting space?
like an script that once donwloaded read each video metadata or a txt with each idol and links from main folder to idol folder.
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I bought a Synology NAS right before the prices exploded and has 16tb in it. frankly reading this thread and others makes me panic about drive failures and losing data with nothing you can do about it at all.

I just want all my movies, tv, books, music and wrestling to last the next 50 years. is that too much to ask?
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>>1097688
Yep, xxx, music and few 20/10 remixes I don't hoard blindly
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>>1160001
Kek, brilliant
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>>1172613
>I just want all my movies, tv, books, music and wrestling to last the next 50 years. is that too much to ask?
Yes 50 years is too much to ask from a Synology NAS that will fail in the next decade.
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>>1173080
>>1173080
Technology is transient, no solution is permanent, it is forever a process, laid before us by our ancestors, that we must dutifully carry out.
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>>1169625
Label, then folder per movie with Javinizer (.nfo, video, cover, subtitle)
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>>1162719
damn i just got some full price a few months back.
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>>1097688
sorta
thinking about setting up IPFS on my NAS to host libgen content
presently only working with 18 TB, but I have 4 bays left, and potentially 3 more if I convert my 5.25" bays into more 3.5" bays
anyone have any other content worth hosting?
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>>1162125
My problem is finding a case that will fit my drives. I'd rather not have to go full tower, but I might just have to.
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>>1172156
Use the ZFS filesystem, it can do it automatically for you (TrueNAS is great)
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What other thread topics can serve as answers to the original question here?
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Hoard and then share it.
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What kind of an HDD would /t/ recommend for someone who wants to get into torrenting and data hoarding?
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>>1177052
Any Western Digital red or Segate Ironwolf. Those are the cheapest good options.
>Ironwolf Pro is optional
I sneed using a Ironwolf. It's very reliable. I've been using it to the fullest for 6 months and it still has 100% health according to HardDiskSentinel.
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>>1155988
well, mine are loud as shit so there we go.
they're the loudest thing in the system by far (especially because of that stupid sweep they do every 7 seconds).
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>>1177052
whatever the current shuck drive is so you can get way more storage for the same money.
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hoardlet here.
I want some storage solution/unit which can handle simultaneous connections with mac and pc, which allows file transfers from both FAT and MAC os extended file systems

Can it be done with DAS or do I need a NAS?
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>>1097688
Yes, but mostly because I want someone else in particular to be able to use these one day, when they get disappeared.
>>1097833
4xSeagate Exos 12 TB in 2+2 ZFS, stuck in a second-hand HP workstation with ECC ram
>>1098002
I use an internal hard disk on my PC to torrent, then rsync the data to the ZFS share. Hopefully, this means less wear and tear on the ZFS drives and less money to keep it running longer-term.
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>>1179585
Samba fileshare from a linux machine would do all of this for you.
If you want an out of the box solution look at a Synology unit.
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>>1179585
dirty double replying here but I got to thinking you might be looking for a FTP thing of which filezilla would be better. You do not need a NAS for filesharing, a NAS if you have so much data you need to share it only makes sense to have a dedicated machine for it.

>>1177052
for torrenting? the cheapest junk you can find that works. For hoarding? Shuck drives or wait for sales. You don't have to go for NAS drives, make sure you think about backups though.
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sexiest thinkpad
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>>1169666
My old 4tb MyBook had that encryption. Fortunately, with a format the drive worked like a regular WD Green drive.
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Where's the best place to get mechanical drives for this online? Someone who can competently and consistently package such drives for shipping.
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Don't bump your mechanical drives, just this thread
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what are some of the currently available ECC supporting AM4 motherboards? can't filter for it in any of the e-shops here. so fucking frustrating.
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>>1184340
Do you even need ECC RAM? The errors are so negligible that as long as you check it (say like rsync does) it should notify you. ECC RAM is only for stuff that is super high precision or can't ever go offline.
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>>1184594
>it should notify you
*it should notify you that something has gone wrong
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>>1184595
I thought failing silently was all the rage.

...Or is that what you do long after it failed silently?
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>>1097688
Nope, I'm poor and only have ~13TB total usable archival space. So I'm constantly compromising between size and quality. If it's a movie/show that I really enjoy and watch a lot, I'll download a 1080p bd remux. If it's a movie known for its stunning visuals I'll download a good quality bd rip. If it's a comedy or something I don't care about, yiffy rips or equally low quality bullshit is fine with me. I grew up recording movies off TV to cheap dollar store vhs tapes on the lowest quality setting so I'm fine with not having perfectly crisp HD quality for all my movies. Similar philosophy with music, my all time favorite albums I have in flac, most things I have in 320k, and albums that I rarely listen to or don't give a fuck about in lower quality, 128k is the absolute lowest I'll go for music. I do have a lot of podcasts and radio broadcasts in 24 or 32kbps tho.
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>>1097688
Never expected to build a big Nas but i bought 4 12tb disks (50$ each) through some insane Amazone deal/price error.
I've always hoarded as much as i had space but now I'm free to download whatever
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What hard drives do you guys recommend? Any deals? Is it better to buy an 18tb all at once or multiple smaller drives? I don't have a NAS just my pc but my external drive is full. My goal is to be able to hoard the entire z-lib archive
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>>1097688
I came to this board the other day and there was a thread up asking about what the best stuff to have downloaded on your computer was, just in general. I think the image was a pepe. Can't find that thread now, anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>1187328
For brands, Western Digital all of the way. I've never had problems with their drives. But after that, everything depends on use case.

It sounds like you want one drive, but I would highly recommend at least two drives, that way you can at least have a manual backup.

>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1591087-REG/wd_0f38459_ultrastar_dc_hc550_18tb.html
My recommendation would be 2 of these drives. They're helium filled (better temps) and they use CMR instead of SMR (better write speeds). They're on sale right now, making them a good deal.

Of course, two 18TB drive won't be cheap, but that's the price you have to pay at such high capacities.
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The Doomsday gets bumped again
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why is this idea of protecting, hoarding, and gathering data is appealing? it's like im working for a higher purpose for once in my life
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>>1189556
The desire to preserve knowledge is as old as humankind itself.
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>>1189561
is it human to be a librarian then?
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i may wind up with a crapload of storage space soon enough, what're some good spots to downloooad useful stuff from?
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Too bad I am poor and can't afford lots of Seagate 16TB HSMR HDDs when they are so cheap and abundant



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