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142TB as of right now. Pic is year old.

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>>1172307
Front. Modded Blu-ray uhd burner for cold storage when I’m done torrenting files.

>>1172304

Pathetic.

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- Fractal Design Define 7 with solid side panels
- 58TB at the moment inside plus about the same amount in backups
also serves as my meme gayming/anime rig

>>1172304
cute/10

>>1172307
fucking crazy HBA/10

>>1172310
SSD/10

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>>1172304
Based Intel Nuc enjoyer

>>1172316
Assuming those are SSD’s because of 2.5in factor… fucking zoomers.

>>1172331
Not the guy but there is nothign wrong with SSDs for seeding stuff, very low energy usage and very little wear for just reading.

>>1172374
LOL worried about energy bills... lol...

>>1172374
Worried about wear and not having the money to upgrade for better lol… time to stop being a poverty peasent.

>>1172311
Cry less, post more, tourist

>>1172319
Yes it's perfect for this kind of stuff, are you the OP of the thread from a few months ago?

>>1172374
SSDs consume less but make the processor work a little more so it's the same there have been some tests on the net

>>1172331
>Assuming those are SSD’s because of 2.5in factor… fucking zoomers.
I assumed they're 2.5" SSDs because what is the benefit to running 2.5" mechanical drives over 3.5" drives? The highest common size I've seen for 2.5" mechanical drives is 5TB (a few with 6TB now but not common). Assuming they're 5TB each and the 12 hotswap bays you have there take up the same space as the 4 3.5" drives below, you have 60TB of 2.5" drives, when you could instead have 80TB in four 3.5" drives for less money, less hassle, less heat, and lower power consumption. Alternatively, you're running them together for faster collective read and write speeds than the 3.5" drives, in which case SSDs would be better (or 3.5" drives with an SSD used for cache).
So, anon, why are you using 2.5" mechanical drives?

>>1172620
not OP but I run about 2 dozen mechanical drives in a sacrificial RAIDZ2 from laptops i harvest

>>1172620
LOL newfag thinks hes being smart, listen kiddo, ahem, sorry listen faggot, when you get up to 142tb come talk to me, but you fail to understand the power of hot-swapping 2.5in drives and cost savings over SSD per TB. As you are seeing my system fully tricked out for maximum sharing in a single sessions I can deploy a 142tb archive. But I can pull from another server of mine and swap an additional 80TB of overflow data from my downloading rig, and this is something your small dick brain cant comprehend about how big dick anons share the shit you love to download.

Stay safe out there poverty computer user.

>>1172304
>>1172307
what OS do you guys use for these dedicated download machines?

>>1172307
>>1172310
What hba? What case? What cpu? How much ram?
And what do you mean by modded blu-ray drive?

>>1172697
>you fail to understand the power of hot-swapping 2.5in drives
I literally do, what can you do with your setup that you couldn't do with 3.5" drives?

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>>1172737
When it comes to you... afford and put into motion what im able to do.

>>1172718
debian or raspios for pis, but some people use omv or freenas

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low powered amd SoC
8gb ddr3
5tb for torrents 1tb for network share
currently saving for new drives and PCIe sata expansion

>>1172858
Pathetic

>>1172719
If what I said confuses you, lurk more poverty faggot. I’m not wasting my time on a simpleton from /t/ who doesn’t know what a modded Blu-ray burner means.

I'm using 2x high end QNAP NASes (they suk dik) and 1x dedi host

>>1172900
kys stupid nigger faggot go rape a horse jump off the tallest building u can find u unwanted ginger fucking coon burn in hell I asked a simple question you fat tranny faggot do the world a favor and end your life so you stop wasting oxygen and frosted flakes kys

I just use my desktop PC, it has a 1TB HDD

>>1172307
>>1172310
>>1172311
>>1172331
>>1172399
>>1172423
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>>1172900
fuck off Indian ESL samefaggot, go shit in the street or something

>>1172307
Looks great anon. Wanting to build something like this myself.

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>>1172939
>Indian ESL

Master Race reporting in and still not a poor Nigger Faggot like you.

>>1172956
Wow, a death threat! Please tell me more.

>>1172956
I love how Jannies arnt doing their job.

>>1173074
Congrats Jannies. You did a thing.

Dell i720 with an additional storage bay of 3.5" HDDs. I'm up to 160TB of RAID1 storage.

fuck off glowie

>>1173105
Provides no evidence. LULZ is poorfag coping again.

>>1172620
>what is the benefit to running 2.5" mechanical drives over 3.5" drives?
There are actually a few:
>However, there are still some arguments that speak in favor of a 2.5" RAID array. These relate mainly to considerations such as storage density, energy consumption and noise levels. Up to ten 2.5" hard drives can be fit into a 1U rack mount device, while only four 3.5" can be accommodated into removable frames. As you can easily imagine, ten 2.5" drives should be able to outperform four 3.5" disks in terms of I/O performance.
>Looking at the drive specifications reveals the 2.5" drives to be much more energy efficient. When idle, they actually beat their 3.5" brothers in power consumption by a factor of ten times! When comparing activity power consumption, the 3.5" drive still require four times more energy. If we decided to start checking performance per watt, the 3.5" drives would be smashed.
>Last but not least, all 2.5" drives at common rotation speeds are extremely easy to handle since they do not require any special cooling. For this reason, we consider a 2.5" RAID array running 4-6 drives as a pretty applicable solution for high-end desktops and some workstations. There would be hardly any noise or cooling needs, and the capacity reached should be enough for most application scenarios; checking our benchmarks will give you a sense of what to expect performance-wise. The only drawback would be the total cost of such an array.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2,1018-10.html

>>1173303
>https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2,1018-10.html

Hello anon... Dont talk to poor faggots or dumb fucking morons. Its bad for your health. Poor nigger anon already made death threats so he is banned for a few weeks. Abuse pubbies.

>>1173333
>Dont talk to poor faggots or dumb fucking morons
Nice quads but poor faggots and dumb fucking morons are the primary catalysts for conversation on this website.
>Poor nigger anon already made death threats so he is banned for a few weeks.
reportfagging over being edgy on 4chan is pretty cringe

>>1173303
>As you can easily imagine, ten 2.5" drives should be able to outperform four 3.5" disks in terms of I/O performance.
i could imagine this is true out of context. i can't imagine either a proper raid card or much more likely the poorfag hba/softraid setup most people run could make any use whatsoever of 10 simultaneous drives.
>When idle, they actually beat their 3.5" brothers in power consumption by a factor of ten times!
absolute drivel lol.
>If we decided to start checking performance per watt, the 3.5" drives would be smashed.
...but we won't because its nonsense
the example 10x6tb vs 4x20tb, even if 3.5 do use 4x the electricity (they don't) the 3.5 array will use ~0.8 power / tb ((80/(4x4)) / (60/10))
>Last but not least, all 2.5" drives at common rotation speeds are extremely easy to handle since they do not require any special cooling.
lol
the only real benefit (swapping drive size for count reduces losses in parity raid setups) isn't mentioned because soft raid poorfags cpus can't handle chad raid5/6 and just waste space on cringe 10 configs (raid isn't a backup lol)

>>1172304
How much power it consumes? Other than torrent what you use it for? Home server and local development?

>>1172374
Whats the best SSD in terms of power consumptions and its lonevity? Some has said it's samsung...

>>1174227
Whatever NASA uses in their probes

>>11742
>>1174227
Some time ago the master deal in terms of performance, cost and reliability was a Crucial MX500. Samsung performs better, but are more expensive and not a big difference.

>>1174259
Laughs in optane.

So I want to replace my B450+2700x with something power efficient because lol europe. Any suggestions? Currently it's sitting in a full atx build with 6 HDDs.

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>>1174319
>Doesnt provide budget...

Are you fucking stupid.. Am I nigrodamus?

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>>1173346
>Nice quads but poor faggots and dumb fucking morons are the primary catalysts for conversation on this website.

Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

Please just kill yourself already 2.5 inch cuck

>>1172946
>that fucking fat hand
lmao

>>1174323
>>1174325
and why is your writing so childish and feminine?

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>>1172751
>>1172946
>>1174323
>>1174325
you are so mad

>>1172751
>>1172946
>>1174323
>>1174325
Post your stats big boy

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pi 4B and 1tb ssd ziptied to my wall

>>1174715
I like the meat thermometer.

what file system is best for storing content?

>>1174715
a little more information anon
pi with 8gb ram? whats with the two usb sticks? is this just for torrenting?

>>1174813
The one that you're familiar with.

>>1174715
I have one of those cruzer blade whatever the fuck they call it and the plastic didn't take long to start breaking off. still works fine

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>>1174836

>>1174909
>>1174836
theres usb sticks there bc i didnt have samba set up but now i do so now i just leave them in there idk

>>1174917
Nice
Wish i had a pi4 :(

Why TF do you niggers use Samba? Are you WinLosers? It' s VERY inefficient. Even sftp is faster, NFS ftw.

>>1173333
top fucking kek, I'm >>1172316 >>1172620 >>1172737 >>1172939, not death threat anon, not poor, not a nigger, and not a faggot. 118TB raw currently and most likely adding another 2x14TB or 2x16TB in the next few weeks since I'm getting full.

My main server just died on me, so I'm selling a gpu to buy a nuc or a gigabyte brix. I want to run many services on it, so it'll have to have compute power. I already have a NAS system.

>>1175427
fascinating opinion but who asked?

>>1172946
I used to have an xpredator case. They fucking suck. Noisy, rattly, big holes in the side panel so it gets full of dust, mesh everywhere just a garbage case.

>>1172946
did you know the length of your thumb corresponds with your penis size ? now you do

>>1175427
How the fuck would you mount a SFTP or NFS share without additional programs on windows, you retard?

>>1175731
So that' s the problem, the ubiquotus wincrap. I though pro versions integrated NFS. SSH is granted as it is needed anyway to manage Pis.

Other than that, why not using just a webserver with dir-listing? Most media players accept dragged links from a browser. Some formats are even playable on the browser itself.

What is the incentive to seed? I genuinely don't understand why anyone would just waste resources doing this.

why is this thread a bait magnet? post hardware or gtfo

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>>1172304
>Fractal Design Node 804
>Supermicro X10SL7-F Motherboard
>Xeon E3-1230L CPU
>32GB ECC DDR3
>2 8TB WD80EDAZ drives in ZFS Mirror (for storage)
>1 2TB Toshiba drive i had lying around (holds all my torrents)
>120GB SK Hynix SSD for proxmox install
only pulls 55w at idle (running truenas and turnkeyLAMP VMs), i assume thanks to the low power Xeon.

>>1175883
You’re like an insect, only thinking about your own personal gain never seeing the bigger picture. I pity you. I really do.

Running a Super Micro 3U server serving about 22TB. Trouble is, I can only get about 12 torrents active. Anyone know how to get more active? I'm running a VPN (have to) as well.

>>1177021
Forgot to mention, debian with Transmission-Daemon bound to the VPN connection over Wireguard.

>>1177021
should be able to change a setting in transmission's config file I believe

>>1175891
This is cute as hell bro, I love it.

>>1172319
>>1172304
NUC bros is this a good setup for the price?
also, are these much better than a Pi if i just want to seed and have a little NAS?

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>>1177271

>>1177272
damn, cute and smol, now i need one, f the pi4

>>1172530
Yes it's me, surprised someone remembers
>>1177271
Yeah it is much better than a pi

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So far so comfy
>WD Ultrastar DC SN540 NetApp 4x
>i3 12100

>>1172304
what is your opinion of people who only use their desktop computers to torrent while they are using their pc's?

>>1178757
its ok, some people cant afford to have their pc turned on 24/7

>>1178757
agree with >>1179020, seed as much as you're reasonably able to. if you seed at all, you're already better than 90% of /t/ and public tracker users.

i got a 5tb external off amazon, what kinda hardware should I have? I feel like a normie bc of this thread .

>>1179053
i seed anything i get on /t/ for at least a week before i end it...

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Here is the mess I'm using. I'm getting a rack today to put it in. 64 gig ram, 11tb btrfs pool, 2x XEON e5 2650 v3

>>1179153
please organize your cables :)

>>1179092
torrenting on your home PC is just fine

>>1179125
a few hours a day for a week isn't shit, honestly, especially if you have average home internet upload speed (slow as fuck). why not just seed as long as you have the files? still better than nothing though, I guess.

>>1172697
Don't you wear out all the HDDs at the same time while seeding? I made the mistake of torrenting directly on my Drobo, for a couple of months, and 3 of the 4 drives failed very quickly after that. It's a good thing they failed in a sequence, so I was able to restore my data every time.

>>1177468
>Yeah it is much better than a pi

Explain.

>>1179353
anecdote but >>1174715 now ethernet'd is perfectly adequate for a small nas, but im not a huge seeder or not super serious about torrenting. it works p good as a cheap NAS/personal torrenter. can stream 4k fine from it

>>1179356
Yeah, I have a 4gb pi4 + 5tb hdd torrent setup. It's samba shared, so I can watch full 4k remuxes just through wifi. I just have no clue why a NUC would be so much better, unless you're doing a lot more with it.

>>1174323
woah this stickynote person is a total fag

>>1174325
bro you are writing things I read in 2012 and you sounded like a loser back then too

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Does anyone have a guide on how to build and set one of these bad boys up? I am downloading everything to my PC (I have an 8 TB HD and a 4TB HD for storage) but I was a server I can set up plex on.

>>1179391
a seedbox is literally just a computer. you can run plex on your normal PC or build another one to use solely for that purpose.

How do you hv multiple instances of transmission-daemon?

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>>1179737
With docker, mapping to different ports (ej: 9091, 9092, 9093, etc)

>>1179702
what is plex? im so fucking new here sorry i been torrenting all my life since limewire but never got into the culture of it.
im having my first child soon and im wanting to curate some media of all types before their pozzed by the trash that is out nowadays.
do I use plex to organize it?

>>1180068
Don't know what the technical term for it is, but Plex is basically just self hosted Netflix. So you have a server with all your movies running a Plex server, then you download the Plex client on your other devices, and then you can stream your movies from your server to your device.

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>>1179924
Why use multiple Transmission instances?

>>1180068
Install Jellyfin instead, there is hardware decoding while for plex you have to pay

>>1180345
>Why use multiple Transmission instances?
not that anon but I do for organization, and because one instance can only handle so many torrents

>>1180345
Which site it that?

>>1180384
If I'm not mistaken, this is jellyfin with custom css

>>1180370
oh ok, transmission v4 is coming out, it is much less resource intensive

>>1180384
>>1180405
jellyfin

>>1172946
fatass

>>1179391
What languages do you speak?
>>1180370
It is a bit poor solution compared to other torrent clients, but you can map different download types to folders on the same transmission. Sonarr, Radarr, etc allow for this too.

>>1172304
>LDLC SSD
I see you my fellow frenchman

>>1181757
Haha yes anon :)

Where's a good place to find decommissioned or cheaper enterprise gear? Or even cheaper prosumer stuff? I've got enough drives to the point where a server rack is becoming appealing. I've got 7 internal drives and 5 external drives (14TB, 12TBx5, 8TBx5), and I'll be swapping/adding larger drives in the near future.

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I use my computer at work because my internet at home is garbage, and use a 1TB portable SSD to bring the files home.

>>1186295
HOLY
FUCKING
BASED

Are internal hard drives better than external hard drives?

>>1190536
No real difference aside from how they're connected determining the transfer speeds. But that's really only a concern with moving/copying files between internal and external drives, for uploading and downloading even an external drive connected through usb2.0 should be fast enough.

Hey what the fuck? Show some respect a tranny thread died for this shit

>>1191126
Good

>>1172751
brain damage much?

>>1179391
still would

it's fine if i seed/torrent with my everyday pc?
I have never seeded something bigger than 40gbs

>>1179391
God she looks hot. Aged like the wine she drinks.

>>1179297
>Don't you wear out all the HDDs at the same time while seeding
Reading (from seeding only) is not nearly as hard on HDDs as writing. If you treat your HDD well (avoid extreme heat and vibrations) it should reach 40.000 hours easily. Your computer will be obsolete before you reach that limit. And HDDs can break just sitting in storage too.

>>1180068
check out the r/datahoarder subreddit, those guys are really knowledgeable.

I had an old Haswell Celeron around so I repurposed it as a NAS, threw it into a SFF case with a TFX PSU, installed Xpenology on it and qBittorent in a Docker container.

There's an old 32GB Intel SSD inside, for the OS, and a 4TB Ironwolf Pro NAS HDD for storage.

I never seed when downloading from public trackers, and I only get from private trackers the stuff I cannot find on public trackers, which I do seed to 1.1 ratio.

Served me well.

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>>1179153
>I'm getting a rack today to put it in.
based

this pic is old but the bottom three servers are still the same, I've just upgraded to a 10gbe switch and I'm in the process of building a much nicer rack with sides and doors

hardware specs off the top of my head because I can't be assed to actually go get them, from bottom to top:
Server 1 - Melchior
>twin xeon E5-2400 somethings at 2.4GHz
>64GB DDR4 ECC
>8x 4TB 7.2k SAS Drives in RAID5
>1TB SSD for proxmox boot
Server 2 - Balthazar
>Same CPUs
>32GB ram
>8x 6TB 7.2k SAS Drives in RAID5
"server" 3 - unnamed i guess?
>formerly my desktop gaming PC, now just does AI shit and steamlink remote play occasionally
>Ryzen 7 5700x
>32GB DDR4
>3070ti
>2TB of NVMe

I frequently post in >>>/g/hsg as well
I plan to get a third poweredge t420 to use as caspar, which will be a backup server. currently melchior runs everything, balthazar only does backups but I plan to actually switch the roles around and have balthazar run the primary storage and melchior run the backups. I also just got a few 10TB sata drives for cheap, so once sliger open back up I wanna get their new NAS case and do something interesting in that, probably just more backup space because right now my solution is pretty crappy and to be honest I don't know what I'm doing

>>1195945
can that ups even power anything in that rack?

I'm using raspberry+deluge with an external HD. But the deluge seems to not be uploading properly. Any suggestion?

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Running ubuntu headless with iptables; had to switch to qbittorrent since transmission unable to exceed 25MB/s; not in photo: 160Mbit radio link to my elders home, nas soc based with 8 sata.
I built everything, no ready products.

>>1197012
I think we will need a better explanation on what going on pic.
Are you streaming 4 tv channels at the same time or what?

>>1172307
Dat raid card tho

>>1174715
Based and saved
Gentleman solution

>>1175883
Service to others and to the greater good
Great circle of giving and receiving
In the end the only thing you keep is what you have given away
Charity is magic anon

>>1178757
There is no benchmark for sharing
You do whatever you feel like doing anon
I dont even know if my sharing client is running rn, probably not
Doesn’t matter

>>1198234
Doesn’t matter to me because i know i’ve shared a lot and i’m cruising on the fluffy feeling nongivers cannot understand

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Not much but it gets the job done. Looking at possibly upgrading this year

>>1198286
Is that 4tb?

>>1196269
2200va 2000w, so yeah
those servers pull like 150w at idle and I've never seen them go more than 300w, not they would ever hit that all at once (and even then that's still less than half the UPS's max capacity)

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>>1175883
They should make a seed coin. You guys are my blockchain. Thank you everyone for seeding me.

>>1198408
5TB

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>>1172946
>>1174323
>>1174325
>>1172751
>>1172310
>has nothing in life besides mommys neetbux
>goes on a torrenting board to act like he is worth something
Isn't it time for mommy to give you a bath anon? If you're a good boy you might get some tendies after

>>1198286
Honestly if you're just using it to download, seed, and transfer it to another computer I don't see why you would need to upgrade it.

where can I find high capacity (10tb+) drives that arent cost prohibitive? I want to build out a new NAS but not sure if I want to do raid 10 again through a raid card or just learn to let go and do a whitebox truenas software 'raid' build to maximize capacity and fault tolerance.

>>1198507
I'm seeding the 1.7 TB Blender SFM and Various Artists and looking on expanding it, so that 5TB is going to get filled up soon. I'm looking at getting a NAS so that I can seed that and other large torrents.

>>1198533
NAS hardware is pretty expensive. Maybe just get a bigger external drive

>>1198543
Thanks for the input. Going to get a 18 TB drive to manage torrents.

I’m a brainlet and am trying to recycle old computer parts to turn it into a NAS/Homeserver that I can work with files out it but can also serve as a torrent box, what are the preferred requirements?

>>1198778
If it's literally just for torrents and streaming video to another device (without transcoding) you can run just about anything/
I'm using an n54l with 5 drives with xpenology and that works fine and that's a decade old 2.2ghz dual core with 2 gb of ram and the only real issue I have is that it's too old to update drivers to use a USB 2.5gb nic and that it occasionally takes a few seconds to load up large folders from other PC's on the network. Right now I'm streaming an 80gb 4k film rip and it runs flawlessly through VLC on my gaming pc, and on the NAS it's only using 1% of the CPU and only 300mb of ram on the NAS.
About the only thing I'd say you really should be looking at is ensuing whatever CPU you decide has intel quick sync, and onboard video (for ease of setup).
The other main consideration would be not picking some beastly massive TDP chip that's overkill and will waste electricity.
I would also prefer ECC but that isn't totally necessary and probably not easily found with recycling old parts.

>>1198639
If it's just seeding (not plex or streaming 4k videos) a cheap synology that can do raid 1 is a good idea so that you can withstand a drive failure.
A DS220+ or DS220j can get the job done cheaply.

>>1197595
Sorry for the late response.
On the router there is a software, tvhedaend, that manage 4 terrestrial tuners and 1 satellite tuner and same iptv; it does include an advanced/automated capture/record capability without restrictions (so can record automatically series from payed channels on tuners);
Oscam emulate the cam and can share a sigle smart card to multiple streamings or/and and multiple tvheadend, even over internet.
On the other side i have 4 tv with old tuners, so i placed 4 (wifi linked) tvbox where i replaced android with (linux based) coreelec+kodi.
Also via ssh tunnel i can connect kodi from my smartphone, and from the pc at my workplace or elsewhere.
Watching tv on webpage is supported but i don't usually.

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DS920+ with 4x 16TB drives. Ignore the mess, just moved in last month and still have to run the ethernet around the house.

Trying to find a decent rackmount chassis I can use to build my own NAS, any ideas? Just got into Homelab stuff last year, and have only ever used PCPartPicker to build desktops and shit

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no HC4 chads in the house?

4 W A T T S

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>>1195945
update on this
I made a new rack from really shitty wood that looks like shit but it's bigger which was the goal

>>1201280
turn down 4 watt bro

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>in b4 poverty
Two RasPi4s
One for local storage/Plex/Sonarr/Radarr/Ombi
One for utorrent + Mullvad
2x16TB but it's time to upgrade to a 4-drive bay.

>>1201280
how good is the software support? what distro do you use?
looks like something i would get

>>1201636
They have an official Ubuntu/Ubuntu server image, and theres an arch install somewhere
https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid-hc4/odroid-hc4

>>1201662
>They have an official Ubuntu/Ubuntu server image, and theres an arch install somewhere
>https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid-hc4/odroid-hc4
I have seen the wiki, but i mean the distro works ok? i am not asking a full review just a comment or two about it
I have trust issues with chink distros i don't know if koreans are better.
but researching openbsd has support for it, kek, i can go full skizo

>>1201636
It's good, it uses a very common amlogic chip.

>>1173303
There's only one catch: all 2.5 drive are now smr.

>>1203263
I've also never really seen a 2.5" drive over 2TB so if you're limited by form factor you're better off getting SSD and if you're limited by price, you're better off getting used 3.5" HDDs (just check the power on hours and SMART status before purchase; ask the sellers on ebay to send you screenshots, I've even guided a few of them through the process)

>>1172304
Run a 4U Rack Mount box running ESXi 128GB RAM, with multiple VMs. Box has 10 Bays with a SAS controller. Backend is two Buffalo Tera Stations that do raid and redundancy for failover. Torrent on a VM, Plex on the other another 2, and a few VMs to play on. Mind you I work in the field and got all of this for nothing due to clients upgrading stuff at the data center I work at. All I've really done is bought drives for additional storage. Oh, and having fiber into the house is nice too.

>>1204754
>I've also never really seen a 2.5" drive over 2TB
Seagate makes 4 and 5 TB 2.5" drives.
They're thicker than just about any other 2.5" drive though: 15mm.
Depending on your case/enclosure they won't fit so you may as well get a 3.5" drive instead. That bring said: they do exist.

>>1172310
>downgrades firmware on 4k drive
>now he's a modder

Recently got a lenovo tiny m93 that i'd like to use as a seedbox but i'm worrying about having it on 24/7 and power consumption.

Is Orange Pi 3 LTS a good Raspberry Pi alternative for torrenting?

>>1207970
Go with a pi 4, used if you can't afford it, rapsios is good

>>1208005
The thing is, where I live it's either out of stock everywhere or costs atleast 120-140 euros even used, so I think of getting N4505 NUC and add 128/256gb nvme with 8gb ram (I will use external hdd for torrenting which I already have) which would cost just a bit more than used pi 4. I might use NUC as emulation system and secondary PC too

>>1208010
yes a nuc is better, even if you use plex or something

>>1207970
I use it rn it is decent with armbian os

>>1208271
How are ethernet and usb speeds? Do usb and ethernet ports share the same controller like on some raspberry pi boards?

Just replaced an old hacked together nas with a synology ds920+
It's a beast of a system, super easy to configure and worked with 2.5gbe adapater with some minimal work on it.
runs qbittorent in docker and with chrome integration via extension I've now consolidated all the torrenting onto it, no longer needing multiple programs due to broken feeds & stuff working on my pc but not the old nas.

>>1201545
mullvad sux
use expressvpn or selfhost

>>1191341
kys

>>1193472
>>1193897
virgincels

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>>1198286
Got 12TB added to it.

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>>1172751
i torrent so i can stick it to corporations

you torrent so you can brag about having things

we are not the same

>>1197012
Any informations about nagravision and the dvb-c tuners ?

some crusty ghetto shit in this thread, you boys make me so proud

>>1172719
By modded he means cfw. The firmware on bluray disc writers is locked down, and the rip speed is locked down as well. With this, you can rip dvds much more easily.

>>1172319
I have so many of them. We just e-waste them when a client has the fan go bad from running it 24/7 in an enclosed space without cleaning for a year, so I just take the wasted ones, replace or clean the fan, and take it home. My plex server is on one, my archive.io and hydrus servers are on one, if I can get an EGPU I want to have a dedicated generative AI box as well. No screens needed, I just remote into them with parsec. And I still have like 11 more in various states of fan failure. Idk what to even do with them. Maybe a cluster computer? What could I even do with a cluster?

note to anyone buying exos drives, do your firmware updates and epc disabling before you use them.
without them they sound like a jackhammer on a concrete foundation.

>>1209201
>Idk what to even do with them
Send me one or two

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So, I am planning on saving up some cash to make a 2nd pc, for NAS Torreting, and additional storage. Need some suggests for what to get, and what I need. At this moment in time, I currently have:

>GPU: Geforce 1660 Super 4gb
>PSU 800 Watt BBQ PSU
>Case: Older Fractal Design Core 1000

What I need:
>Motherboard (MIGHT USE CURRENT B450m PRO MAX FOR THE SECOND PC, IF UPGRADING MOTHERBOARD)
>SSDs (MOST LIKELY NVMe only for space & Budget)
>HHDS (MOST LIKELY WILL TAKE 3x4TB ON CURRENT PC, TO PUT INTO PC, AS STARTING STORAGE, AFTER TRANSFER. TO PUT IN 3X16TB HHDS ONTO MAIN PC, AND SLOWLY GROW THE 2ND PC STORAGE OVER TIME).
>CPU (OBVIOUSLY TIED TO THE MOTHER BOARD COMPATIBILITY. SO MB IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TO GET FIRST IMHO)
Case (Possibly micro ATX to ITX case. Most likely to use the previous smaller case I had).

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>>1209764
For a comparison. The main PC, I got a 3060ti, same MB, same CPU (Ryzen 5 3600). And I got some older 32gb of ram saved too. Because I upgraded to 2x32 gb of ram, to have 64gb

I'm thinking of getting either 2.5" hdd or ssd to use with pi for torrenting. Kingston A400 960gb costs the same as 1tb 2.5" hard drives where I live. Since all current 2.5 hard drives are smr, does smr affect torrenting in bad way and I should get A400 instead?

>>1210211
Go with the 2.5" hdd powered by usb like me (OP)

Better for long term

>>1208868
what u running anon?
just torrent stuff?

>>1210268
hdd would be better for long term than ssd because lots of writing will wear out ssd eventually?
how about using ssd mostly for seeding? would hdd also be better in that case?

>>1210446
>hdd would be better for long term than ssd because lots of writing will wear out ssd eventually
>>1210446
Unless you are writing data 24/7 on your drive an SSD will almost certainly last longer. SSDs have practically infinite read capability, it's writing data that wears them out

I have a laptop (older, 2016) Asus, i5, 6200U. And a PC, 5600X w/ a 3060ti. My goal is to be able to hold the entire Z-library archive. How do I best set something up? What harddrives do I get? A NAS or do I fill up my PC with drives?

>>1210569
You can use your laptop with some usb3 hdd dock

5600x is overkill for a nas, you can also buy used parts or an old computer and fill with drives, then install debian

a nas will cost more but will use mose energy

>>1210642
nas will use less energy, sorry

>>1210569
that sounds like a lot of electricity, how expensive it is in your location?

I used to use a raspberry pi and a 4tb hdd. Now I finally put together an unraid nas and would like to have my pi write to that directly.

I saw somewhere that qbittorrent cannot write to network mounted drives, which is my goal.

Would anyone be able to share some pointers on how to get my pi to write directly to my nas?

>>1210947
I mean can you just use another program instead of qbittorrent?

>>1210947
>qbittorrent cannot write to network mounted drives
qb has no way of knowing if a drive is mounted locally or not
when you mount a drive, either local or network, in linux (and in windows) they appear to all parts of the system as just another drive to be used.

perhaps you read that qb cannot download to remove locations on it's own, or that it needs to have write permissions on a shared drive, and you just misunderstood.
when you share the drive from the storage server, you need to ensure that all files and folders you want QB to have access to are owned by, and writable from the same user that qb runs as. you can make a user called "qbuser" and chown/chmod 764 all files and folders as that user
then you share the drive, and when you mount it on your client machine, you need to mount it as "qbuser" (which means creating a qbuser with the same uid and gid on your client)

this is like... the absolute BASICS of network shares dude
if you're struggling here...

Should I get WD Elements portable or Seagate Basic 2.5?

>>1212692
I appreciate the detail of your response. I'm pretty sure I misunderstood what I read then in that case and will look more into your suggested solution.

yeah I'm still pretty new to network shares and linux in general, so I'll be the first to admit I have a ways to go.

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>>1214466
hang around >>>/g/hsg and just read what people post there, you'll pick up a lot

a few years ago I was in sort of the same boat and I just lurked for ages until now I have this >>1201331
which actually now looks like picrel

>>1214472
dude what are you even doing with that?

>>1216533
if you have to ask then no explanation will seem satisfactory unless I throw some buzzwords like "I am hosting highly available enterprise cloud scalability serving for multiple clients with a strict business requirement for highly available and scalable server cluster and cloud architecture"

>>1216533
>>1216688
also, you have to bear in mind nothing in that pic is newer than about 13 years old and almost all of it was taken out of a literal dumpster for free
(obviously my PC is in there which is modern and I use it for games, and I bought the router and UPS recently. everything else was free from a literal dumpster)

>>1216690
>everything else was free from a literal dumpster
How do i go about doing this? Is it really just easy as dumpster diving out behind my local best buy?

>>1216688
I can see that those server racks and hot swappable bays are old
So unless you have electricity for free, is difficult to se why you have those racks at home
I am not criticizing, just wondering. Or are you just datahoarding and the drives are idle most of the time?
(and maybe maybe it was just an elaborated thread bump trying to contribute with the topic;) )

>>1214472
what's the power usage on that?

>>1216861
>behind my local best buy?
try offices, not shops. shops are where people buy new stuff. offices are where people throw out old stuff
I get this stuff from work when it's decommissioned and thrown out
>>1216890
>So unless you have electricity for free
I don't live in a cucked country so power is really cheap, but I also have full solar power and battery backup for up to 100KWh
>>1216896
about 450W for the entire rack under load (this is including a gaming PC, well, gaming) and averages about 200W all up. this is for three computers with 5 CPUs, a router, two switches, a KVM, etc.

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>>1172304
Is there a way to archive/save shit indefinitely? Hard disks usually fail at around ~5 years. Should I invest in shit like Google Drive?

>>1217440
>Should I invest in shit like Google Drive?
not if you want your data to actually last
HDDs can spin for longer than 5 years, I'm still using drives that are almost 15 years old, but if you get into data hoarding theres a good chance you will replace your drives with bigger ones before they wear out.
SSDs aren't great for longevity because they have a limited number of write cycles

for long-term storage you have a few options, I'll list them from best to least-best
>LTO Tape
should last 50+ years in good storage conditions, possibly longer it's just LTO is only about 50 yeras old and noone can test if it'll last longer/ we assume the answer is yes.
>Bluray disc
should last 20+ years (again, bluray is only ~20 years old. should last much longer in theory)
>DVDs
not as good as bluray and smaller capacity, but archival grade DVDs have lasted 25+ years
>VHS tape
some russian guy stored about 4.5GiB per 240 minutes of VHS metal fibre tape and it lasted about 10 years so far, still going well apparently (last update a year ago)
>HDDs
great in hot or warm storage (not temperature, "hot" as in always in a computer and powered on/running, "warm" means powered on but not doing anything), suffer bitrot in cold storage. spin them up once every few years to preserve the data
>SSDs
if you write once and store forever, they would in theory last, probably forever. but without power they lose data (bitflips) in as little as 5 years and you're probably recording access times and doing trim and stuff that count towards the write cycle limit. SSDs probably will last 10-15 years maximum in constant use, maybe forever if you only power them on once a year.

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>>1217445
LTO Tape sounds sweet. I'm thinking about either getting that or a NAS(Network Attached Storage) like pic

I forgot the name but there's a device that has multiple drives attached just like the NAS and whenever a drive fails the data in it is automatically copied to another functioning one. It's probably just NAS and I forgot but I swear It had a different name when I looked it up a while ago.

>>1217440
>>1217445
>>Bluray disc
>should last 20+ years (again, bluray is only ~20 years old. should last much longer in theory)
Japs have developed a 100 year archival grade standard based on blueray. Apparently the disc can be written with any drive. A drive made to lastt such long times is also developed.
its like 5 bucks per 25 gb disc in packs of 3
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pioneer-new-blu-ray-recorder-and-bdr-promise-100-years-lifespan

>>1217502
THe only reason I said 25 years is that's the longest we have currently proved. No bluray has been around for 100 years yet so saying it will last 100 years is just speculation, no matter how accurate.

>>1217452
>>>/g/hsg has a lot of useful information about this stuff

>>1217572
while you are right, at least this time there is a public standard designed to guarantee it that one government is enforcing and checking that complies with tighter specifications.
While with mdisc or regular bluerays we needed to trust the company and tech

>>1217679
yeah, im not saying i dont beleive it (i certainly do) i just can't prove the claims as it is impossible to provide evidence that something only 20 years old will last 100 years
but i have no real doubts about it.

that said, i still beielve LTO is the best for longevity and for price at scale.
>LTO8 drive - $4,600
>LTO8 Tape - $120 (12TiB) = $10/TiB
or even the older and cheaper
>LTO6 drive - $1,000
>LTO6 Tape - $30 (6TiB) = $10/TiB
vs
>Decent DB burner thay supports archive discs - $100
>Archival BD - $95/50@50GiB ea = $1.9/50GiB = $38/TiB
stored in the same conditions they should last just as long. granted a tape needs to be retensioned once in a while. both need to be cleaned after 20 years or so, too.

i think for small storage BD is fine, and can be cheaper but if you're getting into the 50TiB range or higher, LTO starts to become cheaper ($1500 for LTO vs $2000 for BD). not that the average home user would get to that point. they may only ever need one 50 pack of BDs, so that's perfectly fine.

anyway they are all fine just don't store your backups on the cloud and don't store your archives on cold HDDs or SSDs because bitrot or mechanical failure or bitflipping WILL destroy it sooner or later

>>1217687
>>LTO8 drive - $4,600
>>LTO8 Tape - $120 (12TiB) = $10/TiB
>or even the older and cheaper
>>LTO6 drive - $1,000
>>LTO6 Tape - $30 (6TiB) = $10/TiB
in fact now that i think about it LTO tapes are all basically $10/TiB so you could even get an LTO5 drive for $500 or less and use LTO5 tapes in it (or even LTO6 since they are forward compatable one generation)

I got some LTO5 drives out of old poweredge servers that i picked up for free (this is me
>>1214472) but i see these servers sell for like $300 or less at times, sometimes even with HDDs
so best case scenario you get a tape drive for $300 (imagine a $500 server, stripe the drive and flip it for $200) and 10 LTO6 tapes giving you 60TiB for $600+300=$900
under a grand for 60TiB of backup and archival storage, vs over $2000 for the same thing in BD

yeah i can't beleieve i never though of this before now. i even have TWO tape drives, one from each server. i think i might pick up some tapes next week...

>>1217687
>that said, i still beielve LTO is the best for longevity and for price at scale.
at scale yes. But some people don't need that much archive anyway.
I don't even need 1Tb
maybe >>1217440 doesn't need more

>>1217964
yeah for sure, the main point was that literally anything is better than cloud or just external HDDs sitting on a shelf

a $100 pack of blurays and a bluray drive (probably also around $100) will be fine
but also at that price you could even get like an LTO3 tape drive for about a hundred bucks and some LTO3 or 4 tapes for like ten bucks, so it ends up being pretty similar (if you can find a tape drive that old)

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This nigger is making a server with an old 10" notebook, seems to be a nice idead

But i don't know about on buttons, some models got the buttons on keyboard

this board sure does have a lot of glowposts and useless porn torrent threads lately. What happened to all the physics lectures and suppressed information archives

>>1218438
>The internet is really really great.
for porn
>I got a fast connection so I didn't have to wait.
for porn
>There's always some new site.
for porn
>I browse all day and night.
for porn
>It's like I'm surfing at the speed of light.
for porn
The internet is for porn! The internet is for porn!
Why do you think the net was born?
Porn! Porn! Porn!

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>>1177475
What are those cards? PCIe SATA controllers?

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Gen 7 Microserver with 32TB of drives and 16GB ECC RAM

>>1219671
Those are the Ultrastar SSDs he listed in their U.2 to PCIe adapters

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OP here

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Using a stripped down NUC aswell. Low power consumption and less noise. Also 2x 2TB WD drives in RAID 1 because I am a poorfag. Hung it up on the wall because my apartment is small anf I didn't want another PC standing around in a corner.
Looks like shit but idc.

>>1219859
Also old tablet as display, mouse and keyboard in one. I could remote into it aswell but I am way too lazy for setting that up.

>>1219860
just use ssh
it's literally trivial to use, even easier than figuring out how to use a tablet as a screen/input device
>install openSSH
>on the client type "ssh user@192.168.0.69"
>????
>profit

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What's your idle wattage like? (not down/uploading), just the OS on the machine at idle?

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>>1220182
>not down/uploading
i wouldn't know
my whole rack, gaming PC and monitors included, draws 750w at full load

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>>1220317
wrong image lmao

>>1172307
>>1172316
>>1198167
That shitty SATA card looks like some chinkshit scrap from the chia mining craze. Why don't you run a couple of proper HBAs or use a SAS expander card if you somehow need more?

>>1172751
>>1172946
>calling anyone poor with that aliexpress sata card with pcie 2.0 x1 and 5 expander chips
Kill yourself if you haven't already with your sudden disappearance from the thread.

>>1197012
>fiber to eth 2.5g
Is this an ISP provided thing or did you buy it separately?

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any good SBC i could get that runs on mainline and has usb 3.0 or even better, SATA ports?

>>1221793
forgot to mention the most important: under $50, preferably something closer to $30 actually

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>>1220815
The white computer you linked is not mine, but to your question, I acquired the SATA card via some kind of deal, but that was more than a year ago and cannot remember, works fine.

>>1220819
No im here, still pissing off poverty faggots like yourself Nigger. Mind you I posted those pics last year and you still are mad, ive done my job then :)

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>>1221867
actually imagine trying to start shit in a torrenting hardware thread

>>1221867
Come to think of it, I built it in early 2021, and posted those pics in 2022, and not in 2023 it roughly is somewhere near, 200TB but I need to take update pics.

The plan will be to eventually update into a rack setup, but im lazy and making money right now and dont have to time to fuck around like I did during the coof shutdowns.

>>1221869
>and not in 2023 it roughly

... and now in 2023 it roughly

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>>1221868

>>1221872
>>1174715
nah im quite happy with it. i do need more space tho and ill be able to use the drives that were in my desktop now since im not using it anymore

>>1221873
lol that's your rig? Holy shit. All credibility lost. LOL. Stay mad poor fag.

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>>1221874
ok lol

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>>1221874
>Stay mad poor fag.

Are seedboxes honeypots? Should I just seed from home instead despite much lower speeds?

what is the cheapest best multibay nas enclosure that money can buy? it also needs a fan bc its going to be stuffed into a cabinet

>>1222156
I ended up getting a PC on craigslist (only for the case) that had 8 bays. Cleaned it up put 2 fans in and its running like a dream. Just camp on used sites

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the same one i use for everything
3TB SSD 32TB HDD

>>1217440
>5 years
My laptop is 16yo and the HDD is in good condition. I've had an external WD HDD for about 12 years and it's condition is good and it's constantly connected, just not spinning. I've had a 2GB Kingston USB flash drive for as long as I remember, probably about 18 years or whatever when they first appeared, since I got it after I lost my 512MB one.

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>>1219859
Using a wallmounted rig aswell.

>>1225713
Did this mf for real nail a PS2 on his wall?
At least clean it and rotate the pic you dumbass.

>>1225713
based

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Current torrenting VM specs in picrel. I can post the host system too if you like.

I'll be upgrading to 300mb/s symetrical fiber soon, new competition in town means lower prices :)

>>1225713
Nice, is it running linux or did you shove a nuc/SBC in there?

>>1172304
At home I'm run an 11th gen NUC with ~40TB NAS for storage. Not torrenting so much since usenet is more reliable.

I'm less of a datahoarder but still running low on space. Archiving to bluray is actually a tempting idea.

>>1172718
Any linux distro will be fine, I use debian or ubuntu since shit just works. All of the download clients run as docker containers so updating them or moving them between different computers is super easy.

>>1177271
Yes, Pis are toys for children.

>>1226999
It's not running anything. It's just my childhood PS2 which I rather have on my wall as a way of honoring it instead of letting it rot in the basement. It still works, I am just running the older, fat model because it allows for more modding because of SATA drive support.

is it a myth that modern ssds gets bricked quickly by extensive torrenting? i understand it has a finite number of writes but surely they'll live through hundreds of TBW, right?

>>1227433
Ah fair enough then, you're treating yours better than I've done mine. Kinda want to get another one for some classic gaming, or at least a shell and cram a decent SBC into it.

>>1228182
That's how I understand it; I just use a trash SSD for torrenting; and swap it out as my main desktop needs storage upgrades or new drives

>>1228182
it'll be killed quicker than regular use due to higher writes if you are using it as a caching drive or something. if it's jut for seeding, firstly why are you using an SSD for that (a HDD can read faster than your internet speed most of the time) and secondly it won't matter much for writes since seeding is almost exclusively reads.
But using an SSD for downloads is just kinda silly since, again, a HDD will be faster than your internet speed most of the time (they run at about 1.2Gbps, or about 160MBps, which is well faster than the average american internet connection (roughly 70Mbps, which is only ~8MBps) and also due to the aforementioned limited writes

but it's not like torrenting on an SSD will kill it next week or anything. a decent SSD will have like 100,000 write cycles at minimum, so you'd have to write the entire contents of the disk 100,000 times over for it to "die" and even then it just goes into read-only mode, so you can still read the data off it just not write to it.
So for example a 1TB SSD with 100,000 write cycles, that runs at 1GBps would take 1115 days of constantly writing data to it for it to die, or roughly 3 full years of continous data writing.
For a more realistic example, since you don't have 1GBps internet (at mosy ou probably have 1Gbps, which is 8x slower than 1GBps) you're looking at closer to 24 years of continuous torrenting without break before your average SSD dies. A mechanical HDD would probably give out before that if it was being put under the same conditions

>>1229920
>But using an SSD for downloads is just kinda silly since, again, a HDD will be faster than your internet speed most of the time
Ah I should clarify the only real reason to not use an SSD for torrenting, either seeding or downloading, is that in terms of cost a HDD can be had for as low as $10/TB while SSDs are closer to $80/TB.
Like, why get a 4TB SSD for $300 when you could get a 16TB HDD for the same price, and the speed benefits will be negligible given your internet speed as the bottleneck, which as stated is most likely slower than your average HDD.
Also, in terms of longevity, replacing a HDD every 10 years still works out to be less than half the cost of using SSDs, for example
a $300 4TB SSD that lasts for 30 years costs you $100/year, and $300 over the 30 years
a $50 4TB HDD that lasts ten years costs you $50/year, and only $150 over the 30 years assuming the price doesn't change

so basically theres no real advantage to using an SSD for this kind of thing. Maybe for long-term storage, where it's only really written once and read many times, an SSD might last 100+ years while an HDD wouldn't, but that's a bit of a niche case

SSDs are only really useful for places where speed is the uttmost priority, and only the storage is the bottleneck. For torrenting though, your internet is the first bottleneck and the swarm is the second

>>1229921
i want to buy a 2 tb hdd for personal use AND torrenting, do you recommend doing this?

>>1230052
idk man do whatever you want
i run a fuckin 120TB server for torrenting and a seperate 20TB one for personal data backups

>>1227433
even more based

>>1229921
torrenting with a HDD will damage it?

>>1231002
doing anything with a HDD will damage it. they weara out over time - they will only ever spin so many times, so the more it spins the shorter it's life. torrenting makes it spin a lot, but do does regular useage. it's more helpful to consider HDDs have a lifespan mesaured in years rather than in "amount of data written"

basically:
an HDD will live for n number of hours after which it WILL FAIL, weather or not you wrote any data to it whatsoever. as long as an HDD is powered on and spinning, it is dying.

an SSD will last for n number of write cycles, with no real time limit. You could write nothing to an SSD and have it last for 10,000 years in theory, or you could write 100,000 TB to it and have it die in a year. an SSD is only "dying" when there is data being written to it

obviously this is an over-simplification and SSDs will also wear out over time blah blah blah
point is SSDs in theory will last significantly longer than HDDs by virtue of the fact that they have no moving parts to wear out

>>1231033
thanks for the explanaition, yeah i choose an hdd then

>>1231033
something else, so if i use and hdd for doing two things at the same time that means it will damage faster or its practicaly the same?

put a server in a datacenter. it's not jsut for torrenting but I do seed a bunch of stuff on it

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>>1231446
forgot the godamn picture

>>1231365
its the same. a single HDD can only do one thing at a time and it does them sequentially.

thats like saying "if i ask a librarian to get me a book and then get be another book, will she die faster?"
the thing that wears a HDD out is the disk spinning, which is is basically always doing while it's on unless you go out of your way to make it spin down.
using a HDD doesn't wear it out - powering a HDD on wears it out

>>1231446
>>1231447
is this how co-location works? you literally rent space in a rack to put your own server?
i thought it was only renting the datacenter's servers
this looks awesome

>>1229920
>firstly why are you using an SSD for that
i already have a 4tb SDD, my HDD is 2tb
thats why im asking

i have a 1Gpbs connection which i understand isnt getting fully utilized

i torrent to my HDD first but im also seeding my entire movie library stored on my SSD since it has more capacity

>>1175883
Many sneeds strong single sneed weak. More sneed more speed and no sneed no torrent

>>1231896
thats so bizzare, a 4TB SSD is like 15x the price of a 4TB HDD, like I just fail to see how you got into this situation but i mean I've seed weirder shit before

for a caching drive yeah SSDs are great but honestly I'd just go buy a 12TB or 16TB HDD because they are like $200-300 and just use that for all the storage
that being said, SSDs still are better in basically every way, they are just much much more expensive

>>1231478
Yeah, putting your own server in rented space in a server farm is colo. You can also get a "VPS" where you get a dedicated slice of another companies server, or rent a whole server, or nowadays you can 'cloud' where you don't rent any server you just spin up specific resources on amazon AWS or whatever.

>>1229920
>>1229921
I have two NVME 1tb crucial drives in my Synology. The main storage is spinners but they have one NVME for SSD read caching for the HDD volume, and the other I've hacked into a single drive volume that's just for torrents, because torrents are the main thing the unit runs operations for. Keeping the torrent program and the ongoing files on the NVME massively reduces the noise from the spinners.

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HP Pavilion Laptop 500GB, Seagate 2TB Hard drive to store stuff and help lower the number of write cycles on the Samsung T7 Shield 4TB SSD, and plug-in DVD player in case the torrent is small enough to store on a DVD.

>>1179092

Probably a PC, even if a mini one. Also, check the drive. Amazon is full of knock-offs.

Considering I want to run hundreds of torrents which means thousands of connections at a time. what is a good router that won't choke?

>>1221793
what is that small screen thing

>>1219698
are mdiscs worth it