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"Gimme yer shit" edition

Previously: >>57950061

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>Thread Question
What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?
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>>57963230
Regarding ratios, is there a standard? I just looked at some primers and tried to establish some ranges. Like 36-41 mana, 12-19 draw power, 9-16 mana effects, etc. Seems like tentpole decks are the most common so not sure if they require significant alterations.
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lul there are actually fat ugly manchildren on this board that get triggered by Alesha
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>>57963682
Just fill your deck with infinite combos and you should be good.
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>>57963698
I play Torpor orb AND Tocatli honor guard.
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>>57963698
Alesha is actually the fat ugly tranny. I lose respect and actively target anyone who actually plays that. Same with the fag kings of meletis players.
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>>57963657
Man I really want to build that guy, but I know deep down Chainer is better all-around. He's less flexible but way less-mana intensive, and can hit every graveyard.

Fuck.
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>>57963728
retarded amerifat southerner confirmed lul

how's that double digit IQ feel?
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>>57963682
Hi Eric
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What's your excuse for spending so much money on this game when you could win with a $70 deck and put all that money to way better things like a nice guitar, a stand up paddleboard, a nice road bike, months worth of martial arts training... I mean fuck, most of you idiots could sell off 10% of your gay collections and fund a top of the line cruise entirely with money gained from selling cards to other idiots.

But you don't. Why? Because you're boring and lame, anti social and out of shape. A bunch of uninspired, unmotivated dweebs who use this game as a way to compensate for your complete and total lack of life skills & basic hygiene. You for whatever reason believe that winning a casual game in a casual format will bring you some newfound happiness, even though you're playing in a situation where nothing is on the line and the difference between winning and losing is simply the amount of time it takes to start another game up.

You pop pills for your "depression" and blame a chemical imbalance even though the true source of your depression is a lack of exercise and clean air. You eat hot pockets at the LGS with the other losers, some of whom you call "friends" even though you only ever see each other at FNM and have nothing in common beyond your mutual inability to wash yourselves.

You're afraid to sell off these cards because you'd have to come to the realization that without them, you suck at this game, and if you suck at this game, then you're literally not good at anything in this world. And that's too much to handle for someone like you, isn't it? You'd end up going on a killing spree once you realized that the only thing you found solace in is actually just a lack of skill covered up by the fact that this game is pay to win and the makers of this game have one intention in mind when making these cards; The money of fools like you.
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>>57963698
Stop trying to stir shit up
You're pathetic
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My friend is running Atraxa, should I be that guy and put a Cytoplast Manipulator into my deck?
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>>57963712
They gave me the impression this was sort of a friendlier format. Though I wasn't aware of how common they were until reading the thread for ideas, I really want the deck to be as close to an incarnation of flavor as it can be while still playable. Also, I wouldn't feel very comfortable making people sit around while I solitaire.
>>57963782
I'm not Eric, but if he has made a similar deck and posted his results online I'd appreciate a link. Was this person a former wowtcg player? Most of my build is trying to emulate the feel as players are exceedingly rare in my area.
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>trying to change my Karador deck to Kresh so it doesn't get targeted so hard by my playgroup
>have 11 cards to cut

H E L P
E
L
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The ones that are hard to see are sheoldred and rune-scarred demon.
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>>57963775
Solid capitalization there champ. Nice reddit spacing too! Drink your soy latte and pipe down.
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>>57963871

And the foreign one is puppeteer clique.
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>>57963805

i dont have to sacrifice anything i want to play magic how i want

btw post your $70 deck that wins
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>>57963805
Post like these relax me. I don't know why but they make me feel better in general. Please, post some more.
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Any tips on building a casual EDH deck for next week? Something with power and fun but not infinite or oppressive enough to ruin the game?
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>>57963805

The game is a way I connected to some of my best friends in college.

Nice projections btw lmfao
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>>57963871
just cut all the red cards and make it a golgari deck.
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>>57964015
Make a red chaos deck.

Play stuff like Grip of Chaos and Warp World or have Dragon Mage wheel everyone's hands each turn.
Anybody else got any ideas on how to make a game any more crazy?
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>>57964079
how dare you
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>>57963871
I don't even what you're trying to do with this deck.
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>>57963871
How about some new sleeves, that shit's fugly and looks damaged on things like kokusho.
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ITT: Post your most intimidating commander
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>>57964127

Put a pile of cards together and make it work around Kresh and be resilient enough to have a backup plan. It's not meant to be competitive, just fun.

>>57964142

Who the fuck cares? I'll get new sleeves when I need new sleeves.
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>>57964145
My dragon is more intimidating than ur-dragon
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This is going to be an absolutely garbage deck, but I don't care.

I got a foil of her.
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>>57964145
Nothing is more intimidating that a man who actively seeks out pain.
Opponents will just stop attacking you once he is out.
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>Zero-creature Chainer
Can it be done? Can I just play everyone else's critters?
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Captain Smashfucker all day
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>>57964011
There's literally a million decks someone could post that are sub $70 that can win regularly in EDH. It's a casual format, most decks SHOULD BE around that much, albeit $70 is on the low end. $70-$150, anything more than that and you're just throwing money away to over compensate for some self esteem issues.
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How many creatures should I run for cards like Lurking Predators and Primordial Sage to be worth it?
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>>57964278

>tfw you bought a bunch of EDH staples when they were significantly less in value and it's inflated the value of your decks
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>>57964278
>anything more than that and you're just throwing money away to over compensate for some self esteem issues.
:^) I throw money away on shiny promo cards if that counts.
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?

Nothing feels better then completing Helix Pinnacle in one turn in mono green. Nothing. Also swinging in with hundreds of ants from Ant Queen is a trip.
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>>57964195

>playing a dindu

what are you, a cuck?
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>>57964287
Depends on the deck, but I'd say like ~35
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>>57964015
Etali is a fun commander to have if you can get them out
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>>57963871
eldrazi conscription, ophiomancer, nightmare lash, essence harvest, bloodsoaked champion, bow of nylea, mage slayer, viridian emissary, flametongue kavu, fling, and krosan grip would be my cuts
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>>57964401
>not having a fetish for athletic black chicks with male pattern baldness
what are you, a normie?
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>>57964278
Poorfags gonna poorfag; this pasta is stale my friend
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Is there room for the likes of Death Cloud and Pox in EDH? Which deck would be best for these?
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>>57964455

These do help a bit thanks. Probably keeping the mage slayer, fling and essense harvest though because a big Kresh/Lord of Extinction just kills someone with any of those cards.
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>>57964545

I run Death Cloud in my Tasigur deck. Never considered pox though.
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>>57964545
>Is there room for the likes of Death Cloud and Pox in EDH?
Fuck no, as in literally everybody groans every single time they are played.
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>>57964545
Big Dick OG Rakdos, if you've got the stones for it
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?

Bear Tribal
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bearly-playable-1/
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>>57964673
>Bear Tribal
>Features any creatures that are anything other than 1G 2/2s
Shame on you.
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Post your favorite wizard
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>>57964557
>57964545
Eh, except they don't do anything by themselves and i figure if you have a biglargehuge kresh you're already winning. Jarad at least does stuff by himself.
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>>57964720
>tfw magus of the wheel in Inalla
>tfw double wheeling
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>>57963871
Beseech the queen
FTK
Disciple of Griselbrand (There are way better sac outlets)
Nightmare Lash
ELDRAZI CONSCRIPTION
As a start
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>>57964720
Either Arjun or Nin.
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>>57964992
How does this thing even win?
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>>57965064
Find their Niv-Mizzet or Locust God.
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>>57965064
>Digging through six+ cards every time you cast a spell
>How does it win?
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>>57965064
Do you like cheese, anon?
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How do I make her good in multiplayer?
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>>57964104

Goblin Game.
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>>57964145
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>>57965204
By putting her in the 99 of a hatebears deck
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>>57964401
I think It trying to communicate
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>>57965204
Find her a scabbard that actually fits her sword.
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>>57965383
fuck forgot pic
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>>57965410
Lol, walked right into that one I guess. But is she horrible as a commander though?
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?
Mono blue Dinosaur Tribal
Yeah sure it's only got one creature but it's still tribal if 100% of those creatures are dinos right?
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>>57963805
I actually have
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>>57963805
I actually gave you good advice on how to improve this pasta last time
I'm very disappointed you didn't take any of it to heart
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Jori En, ruin diver or keranos? I want to try spellcaster.
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>>57963775
Texasfag here and I resent that. We'll take our queers over any yankie or commiefornian.
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>>57965612
As a dedicated Jori player I'll be the first to admit that she's not explosive enough. Go with Keranos.
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?

I made a deck that had Doran the Siege Tower as the technical commander, but the real commander was Evershrike. It was all about getting Evershrike in the graveyard as quickly as possible then jamming it out with auras. It was stupid, but a lot of fun. I unfortunately never built it with paper cards and lost the decklist when my computer bricked, but I've been thinking of putting it back together just for the hell of it.
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Mail Call
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>>57963805
Nice

7/10
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Post beach balls
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>>57965935
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>>57965621

>"Texan" identifies himself first as southern instead of Texan or even southwestern

Where are you really from, fag?
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>>57965621
>a difference between fags and commiefornians

Lol
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>>57966004
Texan born and raised nigger. Harvey was a hoot living on the fourth floor.
>>57966028
>muh steers
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Am I retarded for wanting to run this as a general
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>>57966159
Well, it can't be dealt with too easily without wipe.
The -1/-1 can kill off a few things- and will make hapatra and the rare x/1 general sad.

You could be playing lazav or dralnu!
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How many basic lands do people normally use? I've got things like land tax and Thawing glaciers in my deck, so i figured i should have at least double digits of basic lands. Is 14 enough?
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>>57966351
Unanswerable without context

Post list
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>haven't played a good game of Commander in a year
>still have some old decks
>have a group of friends
Should I go for it? I know EDH is a terrible way to teach Magic, but my only other option is a Cube.

>Thread question
A Kydele + Vial Smasher Wheels Deck I made. Shit was cruel, it was worse than Storm.
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>>57966351

Depends on colors and if you wanna GO FAST. What is your commander?
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>>57966351
Ideally, you run all relevant fetches and duals, some City of Brass type lands if you're in 3 or more colors, maybe a couple utility lands, and the rest basics. People always overload their decks with utility lands that either come into play tapped or don't produce colors.

Basics are better than most nonbasics.
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>>57966379
if they're willing to learn, go for it. give them other things to learn from, like some youtube tutorials and articles as well. if they're really interested, they're going to have to do some learning in their own time

of course, the best way to join a new playgroup is to just go to a lgs. check the ones close to you, see if they have dedicated edh nights (they probably do) if not, leave a comment on one of them asking if anyone wants to play sometime

wb anon
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Why isn't this played more
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>>57966616
because everybody thinks that the only thing you can do with it is fetch EVERY land.
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>>57966376
I have a list online, but it hasn't been updated since 2015, so i'm not sure it would be too helpful.

>>57966382
Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter and Aurelia, the Warleader.

>>57966402
There is only like one our two cards that come into play tapped in either of my decks, but there are several that produce colorless. Others are fetches and duals, then about 14 basics.
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>>57966616
If your enchantment gets nuked, your lands stay in exile.
>>57966646
Also this
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>>57966616
I've played it and even if you only put a few plains under it, it draws an unproportional amount of removal for what it does.
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>>57966616
too tempting to blow up for people who are bad at assessing threats. as >>57966646 said, you don't want to fetch every land, but even getting 5 lands exiled forever kinda sucks. the card is good tho, at least when it works. work on your begging voice before sleeving it up

"oh come on guys, seriously, the U player is just going to drop mystic remora next turn, just let me make my land drops, it that too op to you?? is this card just too fucking nuts to let me have?? making sure i play a land for the next few turns, shit you're right, gotta keep me in check, i understand :/"
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How long until wotc prints a creature that says "whenever __ deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker"
and what color will it be
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>>57967096
How long until wotc prints a card that says "when you cast a spell, if you control 2 or more spells, _______"
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>>57967096
I don't think they will ever have a creature worded in such a way. If it was about hitting a player for an effect it would say that, otherwise it would just be "whenever ~ deals combat damage, do x" and it would trigger on creatures too.
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>>57967153
But they love putting "planeswalker" on cards
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>>57967096
Don't planeswalker's count as players for rules purposes unless stated otherwise?
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>>57964145
have you ever felt what it's like, to see some one cast a pull from the deep to return a cyclonic rift and a wrath, just after playing one?
There are no permanents on the board. There hasn't been all game, he just keeps playing wraths everyturn, then returning them with soursery recursion then wind falling.
Just playing his one land perturn and letting his grave slowly fill with auras, some one tried to bojuca bog it but he just countered, then returned the disallow to his hand.
Not a real, no one gets to play deck but a, do what you want it wont last a round deck.
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>>57967344
No. Noncombat damage dealt to players can be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls if the controller of the source of damage in question chooses
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>>57964127
>trying to do specific things
>edh
heh
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>>57965821
Are you brewing who I think you're brewing?
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If you're going to put in combat step cards into Adrianna should you just put Adri into the 99 of Aurelia
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>>57966159
Worst thing about it is that it wants to be dragon tribal in colors where there aren't a whole lot of dragons.
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>>57967459
Most of those are just pieces that I've been wanting to collect. The sword and hammer are going in Kalemne.
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>>57967652
Ah, I get it. Thought you might be going for my boy.
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>>57967380
>scrambleverse
>Enlightened
Kys.
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On an unrelated note this shit game up in the gay ads at the bottom.
Isn't it Guul Draaz Assassin in the picture?
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>>57965467
Don't build mono commanders.
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>>57967790
>t. salty combo player that got 'versed
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Best GY protection? Witchbane Orb is the best I can think of
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>>57968054

yeah unfortunately there's no single piece that stops all kinds of gy hate, and they all seem to be too narrow and mediocre, witchbane orb for bojuka bog and tormod's crypt. ground seal for scooze and drs (but it can turn off your own stuff)

and worse still is that there isnt any good card for stopping rest in peace, which is the most important one, outside of nevermore/meddling mage type thing. best i've come up with that isnt just a purely rest in peace dedicated slot is presence of the master, which seems almost playable because often the kind of deck with rest in peace might also be running other kinds of hateful or staxy enchantments
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>>57968007
I really hate combo m8.
No, salty jund fag who spent time getting a phat board only to get virtually no reward and the player to cast scramble to get nothing and lose only achieving to fuck me over.
It is the suicide bomb of magic cards.
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>>57968004
But i like my Nahiri Stoneforge deck...
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>>57965467

she is a pretty bad commander, reason being, everybody has 40 life and you have to kill multiple people, so even if you slow everybody down massively, you're not gonna be able to close the deal fast enough for somebody kills your pressure, and then the game is over for you because an aggressive mono white deck has no ability to comeback whatsoever, it must win the game by jumping ahead and closing the deal before the opponent can get things together, which is impossible in commander
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>>57967344

>hero's downfall and dreadbore
hmmmmm

also

why would dragonlord atarka be worded as it is?
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So I just ordered the Vampiric Bloodlust 2017 precon. First deck overall for MTG.

What tips do you guys have for that deck? I heard it's an aggro deck, which I like since I like aggressive playstyles in video and tabletop games.
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>>57968359
Pour lighter fluid on.
Ignite.
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>>57968442
What is meaning of this?

Just go all out and attack as much as I can?
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>Jace and BBE unbanned
>modern in chaos

Who else is happy down here in the EDH safety bunker?

Who's got proxy Jaces on the way?
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>>57968458
He's being a faggot and telling you to burn your deck because free 1/1 vamps are too OP for his craw wurm meta to handle.
You'll want to do some basic upgrading to the deck, like taking out some of the higher CMC vampires for some more impactful, low cost vampires - go check out Edgar on EDHrec.com to see what other people are playing in the deck.
As for gameplay tips, don't over-extend yourself unless you have protection for your army of vampires, or can recover quickly with lots of card draw: getting boardwiped and having nothing will seriously set you back.

The most important thing to remember is to have fun. Welcome to Magic, newfriend!
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>>57968538
EDH is my main format, and in modern I play Tron anyway, I welcome more control/midrange decks into the meta. I couldn't be happier!
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I think I want to try out the base deck for a while before swapping out the cards, see which ones are a bit on the weaker side and which aren't.

Thanks for welcoming me!
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>>57968557
All the power to you, my guy. I'm just getting into modern with Titanshift, something I've wanted to build since highschool.

EDH is my main scene too. This unban tickles me plenty if only for the chaos that's come about because of it.
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>>57965064
how do you not see how easily breakable that ability is?
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Any experiences playing pic related? I like the idea of running tons of mana dorks early game and putting tons of counters on them to swing for the win late game, but I'm not sure how well it'd work. I mostly just want a deck that plays tons of really cheap creatures an draws tons of cards to fuel it.

On a completely different note, how's RIX draft? I heard Ixalan was pretty shit.
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>>57968721

>I mostly just want a deck that plays tons of really cheap creatures an draws tons of cards to fuel it.

E D R I C ' S F L Y I N G M E N
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>>57966159
no, thats a cool commander

poops on token decks
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>>57966159
No, he's a cool dude.
Won't be an overpowered deck but you'll still have fun.
Also he's annoying to remove wich is always good.
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>>57968898
I kinda want to play an Edric Squirrel tribal.
And i have no idea why.
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>>57963657

How can I build a super gimme yer shit deck with Lazav, Geth and Memmnarch?
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>>57968721

Not that good. You need ALL the mana enchantments and ALL the ramp, plus good creatures based on their abilities, not their stats.
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>>57968898
Man, Edric's Amazing Flying Men is the best circus act of all time.
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>>57966159
I loved running this in standard. the elspeth-slayer
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>>57968359
>What tips do you guys have for that deck?
You will not win many multiplayer games, since Edgar is a very aggressive general and you will make many enemies very quickly.

As a general strategy tip, at the start of the game pick one player. Typically, pick the player you know has the best deck/is the most threatening to you. Everything you do the entire game should be to kill that player, until they are dead. Then pick a new player. You are an aggro deck. Do not split your damage between players, or you will have no hope of winning. Kill one, then kill another, and then finish the third.

Do not dump your entire hand like a madman, unless you have card draw (Like Skullclamp, for example) ready to go. You will very likely get board wiped. Establish a board that can kill someone as fast as you can, but no more. If you dump everything and get board cleared, it will be hard to recover.

In multiplayer EDH, Edgar isn't there to make friends or play politics. He's there to savagely murder as many people as possible as fast as possible. Like Infect.

And, most importantly, have fun at the expense of others!
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>>57968359
o, I definitely agree with the other guy too. The first cards you should be looking to cut are cards that cost a lot to cast. Vein Drinker, Crimson Honor Guard and Butcher of Malakir are easy cuts. Butcher is very powerful, but much too slow.

The first card you probably want to bring in is Shared Animosity. It can lead to some really ugly turn 4 or 5 kills against unprepared players.
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>>57968721
>Any experiences playing pic related?
It is very bad.
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>>57968004
Every monocolor but white has good commanders
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purphoros is the strongest mono commander in the format

prove me wrong
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>>57969599
>prove me wrong
k
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>>57969599
>prove me wrong

oops i can't
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>>57969603
dies to doom blade
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>>57969638

Yeah but it's a sorcery speed doom blade!

Okay, you win.
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>>57969599
i really enjoy these edits. are there any others?
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>>57969638
>He thinks that he will ever be allowed to cast spells again.
good luck with that.
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>>57969708
ok sure. Cast teferi turn 6/7 with counterspell backup, you are already dead. Or cast him turn 5 and dies to doom blade. GGEZ
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>>57969727
You know it doesn't work like that.
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>>57969708

*teleports behind you*
*plays Boseiju*

Nothin personel, kid
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>>57969736
Mana cost too high, no evasion. BAD. Okay in the 99. Run Baral or Talrand if you want a decent mono blue, but either way playing counterspells.dec makes you a faggot.
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>>57969742
Nice 7.07% chance to drawing that in your opening hand and 1.01% chance every card after. Your decks must suck ass if you rely on such piss poor odds..
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>>57969755
>suggesting i play mono blue
lel
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>>57968721
it needs so much set up, mana doublers, ramp, and creatures just to achieve the point, to put down creatures and buff them.
But it's just not that effective when with other decks, when they get their goal they just win.

You want to storm off and play a bunch of cheep creatures and draw more to never stop?
Freilise is great, when specifically made "non-infinite capable" it'll draw away some hate giveing you the 5 turns you need to play your whole deck
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>>57968721
It's like having a dragon dildo rammed through your head, and about as fun.
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I don't understand whats the point of playing a singleton format if you're going to tutor for the same two card combo every game. go play legacy or something
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I just realized that I don't own a single Brainstorm.
I am the scrub. It is me.
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>>57963871
Nightmare lash, essence harvest, fling, for sure.
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>>57969946
The point is that disruption is less consistent due to the singleton nature, so you don't have to be that good a player to have your public masturbation session.
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>>57969976
>public masturbation session
Fuck.
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>>57963805

Is...is this a cliché? That MTG players don't know proper hygiene?

Never noticed anything of the sorts at my LGS.
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>>57970237
its pasta
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>tfw running a commander without hexproof or indestructible is pointless in my meta

My choices are either:
A) make a deck where the commander is used only for colors
B) find a commander in colors I want that is hexproof or indestructible, severely limiting my building options
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>>57963871
Where's your Reassembling skeleton, nerd? Or is it too spooky for your night-light bedroom
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>>57970511
3/4th of my decks are theros gods or HoU gods and the resilience of them is definitely a reason for that. I hate having to pray for my commander to survive a rotation to be able to do something of interest.
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>>57964145
For my opponents? Pic related. They're mighty intimidated by him
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>>57964104
Knowledge Pool
Bend or break
Eye of the storm
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>>57964545
Yeah, they're fixed balance. So artifacts and/or enchantments or planeswalkers
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>>57965612
Hit them right out of left field and play Uyo.
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>>57964545
>death cloud
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>>57969231
Don't forget Dragonlord Silumgar.
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>>57970511
>his meta isn't filled with exile based wraths, and edicts
Just run whatever commander you want. In general, run something that's cheap, nonthreatening and provides utility, or is an essential combo piece. I often run a commander specifically to bait removal, then smash face.
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>>57970511
You don't need indestructible if you're fucking immortal. Run a Bug God today!
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>>57969686
ETC?
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>>57969686
there are a few more
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>>57970511
There are lots of equipment that give shroud/hexproof/indestructable. That could be an option.
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>>57970511
Play Child of Alara.
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>>57971720
But that shit gay brah
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>>57970511
SLIVER
HIVELORD
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Gimme some spicy tech for pic related?? Made an impulse buy based on flavor –I love his character –and of course, that haste ability.
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>>57971738
Might I suggest Haakon instead?
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>>57970511
>find a commander in colors I want that is hexproof or indestructible, severely limiting my building options
There are the gods for each mono, allied, and enemy color
There's easy options for rainbow (Sliver Hivelord, Progenitus)
So you're only out on wedges, shards, and quad colors, which are cancer anyway because everyone's playing UGx goodstuff.
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>>57971942

>spicy tech for xenagos

fucking lol. just kill people with craw wurm.
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>>57971942
Run big creatures, ideally with trample. Xenagod is is one of the few commanders that can make something resembling a "craw wurm" deck viable.

Extra spice: Damage doublers including the ability to grant Double Strike. Extra combats (Aggravated Assault. Sieze the day is good here since you want to go to town with one creature anyway) Tanglesap is fun if you do go in full on trample.
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What deck would the doom guy run? I too am too angry to die, and I just want to rain a torrent of rage and demon murder on a bunch of unsuspecting fools.
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>>57970564

That's my kitchen you shit.
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>>57972109
Xenagod, Angry Omnath, Surrak Dragonclaw, Kiera, Great Glass Spinner
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>>57968143
Yeah, I get it. If you play the red chaos cards, then you definitely aren't actually interested in winning.
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>>57972221
Those decks seem angry, I'm not going to lie, but what do they have to do with killing giant hordes of demons and never dying? Hmm, maybe I need to be more specific.

Needs:
>muscular angry commander
>ways to murder many powerful monsters
>potential to instagib players at a moment's notice
>ways to never die, or to get more powerful when I start dying

My gut says something something Jund, maybe shattergang?
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>>57972109

Yahenni with No Mercy or Teysa
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>>57966616
If you do decide to fetch all lands it is really fun with this card.
Deal your deck in damage, then order it as you choose each turn for only 3 mana at instant speed.
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>>57972358
Consider The Scorpion God

>Big and beefy
>God that literally exists to murder other gods
>Just gets back up on its own if it ever dies
>Running Black, so you can Toxic Deluge and Black Sun's Zenith to kill just about anything in the entire game and probably draw cards out of the deal
>Access to Hatred, Tainted Strike, and red damage boosts like Psychotic Fury and Fatal Frenzy to instagib players out of nowhere
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>>57972109
I assume it would be some kind of boros deck with a ton of anti-demon/black hate cards
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>>57972358
>Omnath literally returns for the sole purpose of killing otherworldly monsters
>Elemental token shitting can give you lethal on anyone at the table within two turns
>if you get wrathed you get to gigabolt someone in the goddamn face

Just get in there and fuck people up.
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>>57963805
>implying I don't have a cap to my decks
I spend 200 at most due to the fact that I already got playsets of good shit (fetches, shocks) for cheap via trading jank
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>>57972691
An excellent, flavorful choice.

Outside of the obvious, are there any special things I should include? I might just do a reanimator thing and actually summon demons that I then kill to kill more demons.

>>57972764
Ironically, John is the demons. I don't necessarily think monoblack hate is the best way to go.

>>57972776
Alright, that's pretty convincing. I still think scarab god is cooler because he's more METAL, but he'll be a fine backup choice.
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>>57972691
Even if Invocations are shit, the art on the Scorpion God Invocation is fucking sick.
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>>57972879
>Outside of the obvious, are there any special things I should include?
For flavor, Hour of Glory and Hour of Devastation. bonus points on the latter for going full "Nothing is invincible!"
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someone say mailday?
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Holy fuck, this card is almost like an Upheaval in greenmana.dec

Float 30 mana, cast this, cast half the shit you drew, eat a board wipe
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How do I make a 5 color god tribal work /edh/?

I feel like it may be too all over the place to be concise and consistent.
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My friend hates Gideon. He hates the Planeswalker, he hates the flip Planeswalker, he hates his stories and he hates any spell attributed to Gideon. He also loves Jace.

How viable is a Gideon themed deck? I wanna make a deck that oozes Gideon. I wanna make a deck that if you took out the Gideon cards, someone could look at all the non-lands and go;
>wow, if this deck was piloted by a particular established Planeswalker as opposed to the player oldwalker-esque archetype that they currently are, it would be Gideon
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>>57973256
>Float 30 mana, cast this, cast half the shit you drew
Try the Selesnya/Naya Path: float a load of mana, cast Aurora, float more mana, drop armageddon, and then cast your business spells.
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>>57973467
Literally look up every card that that has Gideon's name on it, every card that has flavor text that is either attributed to him or mentions him and every card that has him in the picture. Then, you will be full Gideon.
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>>57973620
Don't put in Gideon's Defeat, though.
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>>57973297
You just out all the gods and a shitload of board wipes
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>>57973297
Ramos or Progenitus as your commander.
A few enchantress cards goes a long way.
Standard mana fixers. Vizier of the Menagerie. Maelstrom Nexus.
Then all 15 Theros gods, and whichever Amokhet gods you want as they're less necessary. Stir in some typical destruction wraths so you can keep em all.
General goal, maintain loads of devotion.
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>>57973620
Yeah had that planned. Just white weenies and goodstuff really. with some taxation effects
My favourite part is going to be acting like a hero and protecting the underdog and then all of my friends eventually dying as I live, just like Gideon.
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>>57973620
Gideon's Reproach sucks tho
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>>57973708
Is it much work to keep track of the devotion with a board full of gods?
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>>57973467
So first things first, whenever you play Gideon talk like a scotsman, don't question it.

Next make the deck have a decent way to keep around Gideon of the Trials.

>Sun Titan
>Emeria Shepherd
>Mistveil Plains
>Pull from Eternity
>Second Sunrise
>Faith's Reward
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>>57973297
>Megani Tensei.dec
I wish, but I don't think Kamigawa had gods, just Spirits with divinity counters.
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>>57973938
I like it but
>talk like a scotsman
Isn't he Greek?
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>>57974088
DONNAE QUESTION IT YA EEJIT!
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>>57971942
>spicy tech
Mostly it is big dumb fatties but there are a couple of cards to make it easier to punt the shit out of someone.

>Malignus
>Anything with Infect
>Berserk
>Stonehoof Chieftan
>Cultivator of Blades
>Wild Beastmaster
>Siege Behemoth
>Hunter's Insight

My personal favorite is pic related.


>>57974088
Yes he is, but one day me and a friend sat sound and placed voices to planeswalkers and Gideon as a scotsman was one of the more amusing ones. We did base it more on the scotsman from Samurai Jack so there could just be nostalgia factor.
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?

My Horde of Notions transform deck.
The whole point is to force anything that can transform to do so through roundabout means.
The deck is still in the early stages but it is still pretty damn fun.
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>>57969638
I don't think you understand how Teferi decks play anon. You'll be lucky to even cast that DB let alone resolve it.
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>>57963657
>What's the dumbest, most off-the-wall deck you've ever made?
Lazav is looking up to be pretty stupid.
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>>57963657
>Thread question
A mono white deck.
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>>57974109
Autism alert
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meta has little to no creature removal what should i play
>geth
>Radkos lord of riots
>Mathas fiend seeker
I don't want another blue deck.
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>>57964230
Probably not, but I want to see that list. Mono-Black Stax & Steal Yo Shit sounds spicy as fuck.
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>>57973297
The Lorwyn/Shadowmoor Spirit Avatars were spoken of as Gods in canon and are outstanding sources of devotion, so maybe run those.

Also, Angry Baby is typically considered a great Commander for that build.
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>>57975047
Rakdos specializes is tossing out fatties on the cheap (typically Eldrazi, but whatever), so probably him. Don't forget to run a suite of draw power and ways to hurt everyone a lot.
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>>57975184
I wouldn't even know where to start with that, man. I guess like... Contamination, Tainted Aether and shit. Lock everyone out, make them pitch and sac stuff while you rob their graves.

This just might work.
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>>57975332
Seems aight. Definitely make the switch to Mathas.
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>>57975692
Infernal Darkness, Koskun Falls, No Mercy, Polluted Bonds, Wound Reflection... you have some options. Though I guess I wouldn't make it TOTALLY creatureless; Crypt Ghast, Magus of the Coffers and Nirkana Revenant are very useful to your ends.
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>>57975734
Yeah I'll run some doublers. Magus is a good pick too since Contamination turns off Cabal Coffers. Aw man this might be a cool deck, and if it sucks I can just turn it into a better Chainer deck
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>>57975779
Don't forget your standard assortment of stax artifacts. Crawlspace, Ward of Bones, any of the various Orbs, etc.
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How do you guys talk yourselves into spending big money on this game? Every time I put a $30 card in my cart on tcg I end up taking it right back out because I just can't bring myself, as a responsible, normal adult, to spend that kind of money on this game.
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>>57975840
Good thing I'm an irresponsible autistic manchild who spends tons of money on cardboard

Also stop posting this
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>>57975680
And if I want to be removal man?
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>>57975332
>tribal
>tribal
>tribal
great variety buddy
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>>57975867
Mathas. Mardu has access to all the best removal and then some by my estimation.
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>>57975840
Desire to see a deck be 100% complete instead of a few good things and a lot of crap.

Though I do tend to get a little antsy about buying individual cards that cost a lot. Shocklands and the like, for example.
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>>57975840

I have a job that pays more than minimum wage.
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>>57975840
Play draft get flavor of the month cards in standard or modern, trade them same day for better stuff.
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>>57975840
1) It's not often I've gone for a $30 card, so I guess we're in similar boats? But I fully justify shocks and the occasional mana vault (10-15 for those sorts of purchases) which makes me a "high roller" by some peoples' standards.

2) M:tG (and other /tg/ related material) is basically my only vice. I don't drink, smoke, or anything like that, I can cook my own damn meals, and I don't go out a whole lot.

3) I set myself a monthly budget for entertainment. As long as I stay inside that I'm comfortable with myself whether I blew it all on a piece or two of reserved list tech, a zillion cheaper cards, some trips to the movies, or what have you.
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>>57963836
Run Immortal sun
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>>57964145
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I want to torture myself, who do I do it with

Alternatively, which is the more "fun" of the 2 god angels
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>>57976158

Neither, just build a Rafiq .
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>>57976158
Adriana seems the more viable of the two, so if you want maximum pain, Kalemne.

That said, "god angels?"
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>>57976158
OG Sitter is the Best Sitter
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>>57975840
There's literally no risk to buying reserved list cards. They're always going to go up in value. I've bought a ton of duals and Legends/Antiquities shit over the years. Thousands of dollars on singles. I could sell my collection for current buylist prices and make a profit. And that's while playing with all of them over the years.

Conversely, I never spend more than $10 on a card that's not on the reserved list.
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>>57976231
great and mighty gisela and aurelia, gods of boros
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>>57976158
Adrianna is a fun go wide commander who can actually do stuff. Kalemne is really only great for giant tribal and stupid shit and doesn't really do much but in a low powered meta can be fun
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So I am building 3 decks to try and have some variety to play in my local group, because right now I pretty much only play some of the out of the box commander decks. What I am looking to build at the following:

>Kaseto, Orochi Archmage
UG Snake Tribal / Voltron

>Mathas, Fiend Seeker
WBR Vampire Politics / Group Slug

>The Scarab God
UB Zombie Combo / Control

Is this enough variety to be enjoyable? Are any of these really bad generals?
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>>57976276
Ah. Of those two, definitely Aurelia. Gisela SHOULD be in the 99 though.
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>>57976278
>giant tribal
She's a voltron commander you dingus.
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>>57976271

>not getting your commander's foil
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>>57968359
black market pulls a ton of weight in that deck late game. the deck itself goes in too many directions, like it wants to be a lifegain aggro midrange control deck. first thing you want to do with the deck is figure out your strategy, whether it be straight aggro, lifegain, voltron, token swarm, aristocrats, etc.

if this is your first deck, don't completely disassemble it and start from scratch. start with taking out a few cards at a time (starting with the curses and very high cmc cards) and replacing them over time.

Edgar is the only really feasible commander for the deck, as Licia is just a worse version of Zurgo Helmsmasher. Marthas is a bit strange to work around, and kind of requires some really old cards.

go to edhrec, they have tons of resources for deckbuilding, including articles and podcasts on the commander format.
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>>57976226
Stop posting the one with shitty art
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>>57976295
You took my advice from before! >>57975694
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>>57976323
I didn't realize anyone commented on my last post, I deleted it in shame!
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>>57976301
I'm sure you'll cast enough 5cmc creatures to get her up to big numbers. If you want some janky voltron boros commander there's way way better options.
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>>57975887
ty ty, so then what would geth be good for? he seems super fun.
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>>57976371
Big Black Mana, like basically every other Mono-Black Commander ever.
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>>57976364
>there's way way better options.
Examples? She comes packed with the two most relevant abilities to abuse Jitte
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>>57976404
>tfw no big black mana bf
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>>57976532
Why fucking live
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>>57975840
I don't really have any other hobbies, and it's something I want.

Buying a cart full of $30 cards is stupid. Buying 300 $1 cards is also stupid. Buying one $100 card once in a while is something a reasonable adult does with their free time, if they so choose, instead of another equally frivolous hobby, like sneakers.
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>>57976675
What is this?

I'd like as much detail as you can muster. Is there a new chance to get extremely niche expensive chinese foils? Are you saying there's going to be a FTV: Jace Instants? WHAT IS THIS COMMANDER ANTHOLOGY 2? WILL I GET A TRUE NAME NEMESIS?!?!?!
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>>57975962

>2.

This. Legit everything else in life, I get for as cheap as I possibly can. I'm looking around my room and all of my furniture/big things (three book cases, a dresser, a bed, an end table, mirror, wall mounted shelves, desk, computer) cost me a combined maybe $400 at most. I get all my books second hand (unless there's a specific translation I need that I can only get new.) I've stopped buying video games except maybe once a year to get something new to do multiplayer with friends who've moved to other parts of the country. Thrift store for clothes.

When you live cheaply and have little vices, it's okay to splurge on a card every now and then. Especially since, in my meta of BIG MONEY decks, you have to spend at least a little to even enjoy playing.

I've got three EDH decks currently, at ~$700 cost to myself. One of my friends in the meta has 5 decks and he thinks altogether they might sell for ~$3000.
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>>57977013
>buy a video game once a year
I know this feel my dood, my most recent purchase was MH world. Also if you don't do 2 and 3 from >>57975962 then why?
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/Commander-2018

YEA BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>Choose your commander and carve your path to victory in this unique multiplayer Magic format. Call on powerful planeswalkers and deploy their signature strategies to make sure you're the last player standing.

as always, everything is about planeswalkers at all times
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>>57977109
>4 decks
Yuck
Also, walkers again? Hopefully they're ally-colored, I don't think we've had an allied commander set ever.

Partners don't count.
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>>57976675
>signature spellbook:jace
Holy shit, they couldn't not suck his cock.
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>>57977195
we need ally color, and is it really 4 again? if so what could it be? I do hope we get more partners again but not just partners
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>>57977317
>Number of Cards: 400
I would think it's 4 decks.
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>>57977317
>>57977354
the announcement explicitly states 4 decks again.
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>>57977109
>4 planeswalker decks
Ugh, at least we know they won't pull another eminence shit on us, I hope they won't.

Following the other ones, I think they won't have color restricitons, so I hope we get a colorless commander this time.
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>>57976675
>GS: Jiang Yanggu & Mu Yanling
>Global Series: Jiang Yanggu and Mu Yanling introduces two new Planeswalkers to the Magic Multiverse. These two 60-card decks were originally designed by a team of Chinese artists, writers, and folklorists to explore a new branch of Magic lore rooted in Chinese aesthetics and mythology.
It sounds pretty good.
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>>57976675
>battlebond
>set made for 2hg
It sounds like shit.
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>>57977413
>planeswalker 1 with eminence
>planeswalker 2 enters the battlefield with X loyalty counters where X was the mana spent to pay it
>Planeswalker 3 can be played from the command zone for reduced mana and slightly less loyalty counters
>a Jace

behold, Commander 2018
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>>57977354
>>57977386
should've read that part but i didn't.

>>57977413
my guess is it's gonna be ally color walkers since that hasn't been done and one there is currently a precon for one ally color pairing in GW featuring cats.
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>>57973202
how much and where anon? I've only seen it for like 20 bucks online
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Commander anthology 2 better have the Prossh precon.
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>>57975839
Rethinking this and I don't know if it'll work. There'd just be too much good shit for me to reanimate to skip over. I like both value and fatties
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does anyone have the list as to what wotc said they wanted to do with commander it was like
>ally
>enemy
>mono
>tribal
>4 color
etc etc i need it to explain to a friend why a colorless walker won't be one of the commander decks in C18
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How the fuck does Toshi Umezawa win? I can't really goldfish a deck with him since you need at least one other player for all those kill spells you run.
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>>57977109
Partner walkers with eminence
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>>57977726
Well, it's not impossible. Just highly unlikely, since a colorless deck would be pretty fucking expensive, unless they fill it with wastes and draft chaff artifacts.
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>>57977109
> 4 Planeswalker decks
As long as it's not all gatewatch idiots, we're good.

Dream Team:
>UB Tevesh Szat
>Nongreen or 5C Urza
>Monowhite Serra
>Green/Red Freyalise 2.0 or Liana of Minorad

Feroz, Leshrac, Greensleeves, Jared Carthalion, Ravidel, Taysir... basically any other PW dating back as far as prerev would also be acceptable.
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>>57977804

Who are some Planeswalkers we’ve met in the Lore but not seen cards for?
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>>57977804
my friends guess is
>yawgmoth
>urza
>mishra
>serra(?)
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Why the fuck won't anyone leak the set symbol of dominaria
That's literally all I ask for
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>2018's big set is Dominaria
>mfw we get pre-Mending commander decks
>mfw it's a bunch of oldwalkers vs old Phyrexia
>mfw Gix finally gets a card
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>>57977842
Given they just released an Urza walker in unstable, why would they print another one.

I would like Serra though.
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>>57977842
>yawgmoth
>urza
Never happening in black border. They're just too fucking strong to get put on a playable card. Yawgmoth is a godlike death cloud of black mana, and Urza is, well, Urza.
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>>57977804
>monowhite serra
Angel tribal please.
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>>57977842
Yawgamoth wasnt a walker
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>>57977887
>unstable
>having any relevance in other formats aside from the lands

at least >>57977894 makes way more sense
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>>57976226
I built a Rafiq Enchantress Deck a while ago

Him giving himself +1/+1 and double strike for free is awesome, slap a sword and some pump-enchantments on him and mow everyone down.
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>>57977894
They can just make it like Nicol Bolas. A super expensive walker that is bonkers.
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>>57977916
>wasn't a walker
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Yawgmoth

there's no way he wasn't a walker
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>>57977920
They released him in unstable for that very reason it wouldn't work in blackborder.

Sorry that wasn't clear from my original statement, I thought it was common knowledge as to why urza was in stable.
Douche
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>>57977956
There is literally zero evidence of him possessing a spark.
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>>57977956

He wasn’t a walker. Phyrexians and Undead straight up can’t be Planeswalkers. That’s why Yawg had to use Planar Portals to get around. Part of his story is dissecting a Walker to try and find the “Planeswalker Organ”.
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>>57978025
>>57978026
well shit I'm retarded
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>>57977109
If dominaria is anything to go by, those are their known walkers.
>Urza
>Karn
>Venser
>Embereck
>Masrath
>Tessebik
>Jaya Ballard
>Bo Levar
>Freyalise
>Kristina,
>Teferi
>Tevesh Szat
>Lord Windgrace
>Dyfed
>Jeska
>Serra
>Liliana Vess
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>>57977842
Your friend has brain problems
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>>57977954
I don't think you understand how strong Yawgmoth and Urza were at their respective peaks. Yawgmoth reanimated literally every single dead thing on an ENTIRE PLANE the second he entered it so it could all fight for him. Urza existed for thousands of years and devoted almost his entire existence to fighting Phyrexia.
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>>57978070
I might too, i still think it'll be ally colors though.
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>>57977956
>>57978026
>>57978037
>>57978025
i always liked that about oldwalker powerlevels. you don't get cool villains like yawgmoth anymore because walkers are just normal ass faggots now. when you learn about oldedwalkers for the first time and then learn how powerful yawgmoth is in comparison it always makes you go "holy shit that's terrifying, what if he was a planeswalker?"
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So yawgmoth's could be a walker if he did some shit on the level of karn and venser? Sounds stupid enough for wizards to bite
where is even a picture of yawgmoth
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>>57978183
There isn't one, and it's better that way given WoTC's current art team.
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>>57978091
>at their respective peaks.
They don't need to be. Look at Sarkhan, there are cards of him in different stages in life, they could print a young Urza/Yawg.

>Yawgmoth reanimated literally every single dead thing on an ENTIRE PLANE
>Put all creatures in all graveyards into the battlfield under your control.
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>>57978183
The thing above the minotaur
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>>57978211
What is the worst that could happen?
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>>57976675
>4 products releasing within 14 days of each other
>2 on the same fucking day
Wizards the fuck are you doing
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>>57978271
dying, hopefully
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>>57978271
Holy shit I didn't notice that
Why would they do this?
Is wizards kill?
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>>57978256
Probably.
>We will never have art like >>57978231
>Instead every other card has to be a fucking woman of color
Amonkhet was probably the saddest, we barely got any Jackals or Minotaurs in favor of shit like Samut.
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>>57978271
Commander Anthology is a just a reprint. And Battlebond will be sell terrible either way, they are trying to push 2hg because they think that people play Commander exclusively for being a multiplayer game.

Signature Spellbook and Global Series are the only actual releases there, and most likely SS will just be a FTV with Jace on every card.
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>>57978271
How is spoiler season going to work?
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>>57978370
What are you talking about battlebond is our set after dominaria
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>>57975840
Never buy packs.

Buying a few expensive cards is far more efficient, even if you balk at how much it is for just one card. If you feel you need a card, fork out the money for it, and don't buy cards that you don't need.

That said $30 for a card is a line that I'm not ready to cross myself. Right now, I'll go right up to $20 cards, but I haven't done more than that on a single card.

I want to get a Kumena, at least for sentiment because I really dig the Aztec and Mayan shit and like Legendaries of characters that actually do something in their block's story, but committing to Merfolk tribal feels like such a bandwagon and I already have one simic deck already. I'm too stingy to get a second Breeding Pool yet.

Which reminds me, I need to bite the bullet and get a few more ravnica shocklands.
>Dual lands:
>good
>cheap
>enemy color pairs
>Pick two.
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>>57978397
>Battlebond is a main set
What? I thought it was just a side thing, like Masters and Conspiracy. This will be worse than I thought, what are they thinking? A 2hg focused main set?
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>>57978569
It is a draft set, the other guy is smoking. After Dominaria, we will have a Core set.
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New thread >>57978636
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>>57978231
That's yawgmoths "gas/fog" form. We've never actually had a concrete photo of yawgmoth in his normal form.
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>>57975840
Don't buy packs. Buy singles, and be sure of your decklists beforehand. Get what you need for your deck, not what you just want to have in your collection.
Play non-rotating formats. Don't get stuck on the Standard treadmill and spending far more money in the long run on cards that will be useless later.
Price changing is also worth paying attention to. Better to buy some cards you need quickly if you have reason to believe that they'll spike up in value in the near future. Sometimes better to wait for certain cards to get cheaper if they spiked recently.

The chinaman also exists.
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>>57978370
One of the announcement articles explicitly calls Signature Spellbook a spiritual successor to FTV. Except it's only 9 cards, only one of them foil, but MSRP is only 20 bucks.




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