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Previous Thread: >>62896896

WoD website
https://www.worldofdarkness.com/
>V5
https://mega.nz/#!ibIUwYbB!0XgND-bLYIic5GULztsmH6J2XXHByiU7CHtwbqeBOiU
>MEGA (mostly Chronicles of Darkness)
https://mega.nz/#F!rFIDxRRK!IEzkLlroRoPwmDqtxKRMsw (we get it, it's broken)
>MEGA (mostly Old World of Darkness)
https://mega.nz/#F!cSRAhRSb!_w_CXRj14pgt8C9nP6ursw
>Question:
How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?
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>>62918343
>Why would I do, if they are going to go straight at their Daddy Antediluvian and fuck it all for the rest of us?
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>>62918343
How, old an elder?
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>>62918343
>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?
Drag in some geeky kid, tell him to kindly ghoulify it.
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>>62918343
>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?
Like I explained it to my parents. With a lot of patience. A fucking lot.
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>>62918326
Currently playing a Setite Priest, full on Path of Typhon, following a gang of Anarchs since they somehow got in the tracks of a Baali cult and he kinda wants to murderkill the demonic Aeon-slaves for Set and giggles. Only a couple members of the coterie know of his nature and are occult-savvy enough to know that until they're going against the Baali, I'm not going to play any game on them. Except trying to convert them. Which I wouldn't absolutely do, of course. Maybe.
Yeah, I did the Setite-Anarch alliance before V5, I should sue WW.
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>>62918326
Are you me? I'm doing something similar. A porn star turn legit movie producer/director who's indifferent towards Kindred politics. Is part of the Camirilla but mostly has a money backer. He still dreams of creating the greatest movie ever.
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Standard character creation + 150 freebies. What's the strongest vampire you can come up with?
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>>62918343

He will request it from you.
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Ditching the metaplot was a good thing as far as Requiem goes.
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>>62919002
I know next to nothing about requiem, could you elaborate what you meant by requiem ditching the metaplot?
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>>62919002

Only thing is the Masquerade mechanics feel better to me. Perhaps it is because I am more used to them.

Ditching the metaplot is a double-edged sword. I have a difficult time fitting into it, given I've been told I fit best as a pseudofascist Anarch, but on the other hand, I tend to devolve into pure degeneracy without a metaplot.
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>>62918343
>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?
It's like using the Akashik Records, except for every ounce of truth, there's a pound of bullshit because plebs can use it.
But, unlike the Akashik Records, because plebs can use it, you can control them through it.

For example: the base kine now has access to a cell phone capable of accessing the great wealth of human knowledge and a high definition camera. Yet that same kine will complain about how they've no means to improve their social or financial standing. Often while holding in their hands a tool that could facilitate the learning or practicing of a trade. The kine will become enraged by the information he receives from this tool, and actively seek out more enraging material in an attempt to justify its own ill-conceived worldview.
By manipulating the kine through the Internet, they may be inspired to self-segregate into convenient groups of people: those who may be cultivated for service to the kindred, and the dregs. The mentally weak may be convinced to irreparably mutilate themselves, denying them the opportunity to breed while marking them as defective to the rest of the livestock.
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>>62918744
Oh dude! That's crazy. He looks awesome. I just thought it would be fun to not play aggressively political this time around since my last character was a ladder climbing Venture.

That is a thought, what's everyone's rules on scheming in game? My new group tends to scheme via GM notes and PMs but personally I like scheming 'in the open', if you will and RPing out the plans and trusting my group not to metagame. I feel doing it via PMs kinda takes away the RP element of things.
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>>62919002
>>62919068
Oh yeah, that's was something I wanted to ask: do anyone of you have experience playing Masquerade without the metaplot?
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>>62919260

Not yet. How would that even work?

If we were all "Caitiff" with around Gen 8 - 13 powers, my personal powers would likely either be Dominate, Vicissitude, and Presence, or Dominate, Obfuscate, and Fortitude. So either way, a messed up Ventrue. Fitting, given that I'm a law student.
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>>62918343
One night doing tech support for grandpa and making whatever account he wants for a minor boon and to not die, immediately spend it to get out of town before hunters arrive because you know he absorbed nothing about security.
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>>62919260
What counts as metaplot?

I've played basically ignoring the whole end-of-the-world thing by just... ignoring it. We played a game set in, like, late 2000s, and then one in early 2010s.

But if you mean ignoring the clans, the Camarilla/Sabbat/Anarchs division, things like Noddism, and the history of vampires, no.
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>>62919405
I'm more interested in the second part and any combination of it. Like using the clans but ignoring or changing things from the lower generations, making any other interpretation of the history of vampires that are present in cannon (like the whole thing the Molochim have with Abel) be the truth or even rewriting everything from the ground up and using things like clans and sects as guidelines.
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>>62919670

I kind of want to write an alternate setting where the clans belong to different sects because the sects have begun to reflect, mimic, and infiltrate modern kine politics. So far I have the Ventrue, Toreador, Malkavians, and Assamites in a centrist/big tent Camarilla, the Gangrel, Tzimisce, and Ravnos in a communist Sabbat, and the LaSombra, Setites, and Giovanni in a fascist Anarch Movement.
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Spekkio, are you here?
I´m the guy who asked about appearance in the last thread. I think my post got buried last thread.
>>62919891
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>>62919978
Just saw m8. He isn't online anymore. Use his handle, because I'll prolly forget, and he said it was cool.

Matthew Dawkins#7043
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>>62920021
Thanks!
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>>62919978
You can buy up Merits with XP, so yes, you can increase that with story justification.
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>>62920035
No problem!
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>>62920042
>you can increase that with story justification.
And what would be a solid justification other than Vicissitude?
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>>62920063
Appearance isn't simply how you look physically. Your character could have a pleasant face but stink and that would hurt his total Appearance rating.
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>>62919670
Huh. Well, two things I have relate to that sort of.

One game was set in a Domain run by a... Non-affiliated Prince, I guess? I'm actually not sure what her sect was if she even had one. But she basically opened up the city to both Camarilla and Sabbat. It was interesting. Worked pretty well, I'd say. I think the party was pretty split between them.

If I ever run a Masquerade game, I'd probably take at least a few elements from Requiem to slightly rewrite the setting. I don't know how far I'd go, though.
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>>62920201
He's talking V5 where there is no more Appearance attribute.

>>62920063
The story itself. You spend time making yourself up, things to justify the actual bonus. You would buy the merit after justifying, and it's a part of your 'wake up' routine. At least, I'd allow it in that manner as an ST.
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>>62920201
That was true for the old Appearance attribute. I´m talking about the Looks merit, which, I believe, is just about the physical part of the old Appearance.
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>>62920258
You mean like makeup and better clothes?
I think there´s a serious limit to how much that affects most people´s looks.
Let´s suppose picture related is a Brujah Neonate. Could she ever become a 9/10? Or is she doomed to be fucking ugly forever without Vicissitude?
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>>62920377

She would probably need a ritual, let alone Vicissitude.

On the subject, how nonhuman can you go before the Monstrous flaw is required?
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>>62920422
Remember that "1 to 10 for men" chart?
I think at least some of the ugliest guys there do qualify for the flaw.
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>>62920550

Show me, please.
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>>62920556
Elephant man, for example, would be a "monstrous" in my opinion.
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>>62920611
Fuck, here´s a better quality.
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>>62920628

Requesting far better resolution 1 to 10 for WOMEN.

If possible, full body.

It's for a friend.
Doing research.
About people.
Thanks.
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>>62920647
Full body? I don´t have anything like that.
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>>62920718

Well, I'll have to tell my friend that I cannot unfortunately provide him with the physical attractiveness index he so desperately needed for his tomorrow due university paper.
One full-paid scholarship going down the drain.

In seriousness, that 1 to 10 is probably no the best or more accurate table. Interestingly, by compressing them in 1 to 5 it doesn't match WoD appearance (Appearance 2 would mean what in this table is 3 to 4, and that's definitely not it).

I'll say my approximations:

Appearance Rating - Table 1to10 Rating
0 - 1
1 - 2 and 3
2 - 4 and 5
3 - 6 and up to 7.5
4 - 7.5 up to 9
5 - 9 to 10
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>>62920810
The 1 to 5 WoD scale is really bad for accuracy. Your approximations look pretty good to me.
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>>62920810

Now, given WoD rules, Appearance 0 mean "Monstruous" or Nosferatu, because there is no other way to achieve Appearance 0 in chargen.

However, the lore makes it look like seeing a Nosferatu is not just App 0 but actually realizing that's a supernatural creature.
I disagree. You have people like the classical Orlok who just looks like an ugly creepy guy, and then you have ridiculous aberrations like Cock Robin (which would be App - 2 or something), all under the same App 0.
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>>62920883

Thanks, hope its useful.
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>>62920892
>However, the lore makes it look like seeing a Nosferatu is not just App 0 but actually realizing that's a supernatural creature
Yeah, that always bothered me too.
I mean, look the elephant man. Suppose you never heard of the guy and then one night you see him in a black alley. If you are the superstitious type, you may think you just saw something not-human.
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So, I've not played as him yet, but my Ventrue Anti Raphael has been entertaining to create. I originally skipped making him a LaSombra because I thought he needs to see himself for his vanity and narcissism to work, but I've been told that the lack of reflection won't really stop him.

If I retcon him into a LaSombra, does he still need Obfuscate? It might not conceal him and it would create a scene, but if his face was accidentally revealed, Obtenebration 2 can easily mask him and allow him to slip away from the wrong eyes. I would also give him Fortitude instead of Obfuscate for out of clan if I went with this. Currently he is a Ventrue Anti with Obfuscate as an out of clan discipline.
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>>62920992
>does he still need Obfuscate?
Do you want to walk around normal humans?
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>>62921008

Yes. He would cover his lower face with a mask and claim a deformity. (Because the Archbishop tells him to use that excuse.)
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>>62921041

>I'm sorry officer, I'm just a humble jain, we wear this so that we don't accidentally hurt any creature, like a fly
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>>62921041
Well, doing that he will still get way more attention than the average Joe.
I personally think Obfuscate is both useful and very fun, so I would stick with it.

Here´s an idea: make both version of the character. Then throw a coin to decide witch one you will use.
You will probably find out which one you prefer a split second before it lands.

Besides, chargen is fun.
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>>62921103
Go Parsi or go home.
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>>62921103
>>62920992

In addition, if you also want him to have teeth on the top of his head, being a Sikh helps.
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>>62920647
I don't have real people or full body, or 1-10 scale, but I've got this lying around. It uses D&D numbers though. Close enough, I guess?
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>>62921103

Sadly he's a Louisianan Catholic and not an Indian.

>>62921124

Maybe I should. Or I could find someone to playtest both versions with.
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>>62921306

Allright: 3 to 4 is App 0, 5 to 8 is App 1, 9 to 12 is App 2, 13 to 16 is App 3, 17 to 18 is App 1, 19+ is App 0.

>19+ is literally inhuman, and 17-18 is more alien than person

I guess using D20 rolling too low or too high is equally bad.

>>62921325

Yes, but that's what he tells when asked. Also, is he going to be overweight, or is he going to be ripped?
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>>62921370

He's a ripped hunk. Muscular but not overt.
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>>62921448

Ok. How severe is the facial disfiguration, and how he got it?
In the pic we see something clearly impossible (and pretty useless, as the jaw probably cannot open enough to make use of those rows of daggers). So, the actual character has slashed cheeks and removed skin, or does he has actual dagger-teeth?
Does he have them in one row, or several? Are the teeth also similar in the front of the mouth, or just the sides?
Also, important, has he removed the totality of his mouth skin? Like, does he has opening to the side but still flapping lips in the middle?
What caused this deformation/disfiguration, and when it happened, what was his initial reaction?
Shock, disgust, joy, etc?
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>>62921535

I just use that picture because it's the best unmasked representation of a male Mileena. He basically appears as a male version of Mileena from MKX, lips but weird teeth included.

My current idea is that he considered himself homely before, and that was partially why he joined the priesthood. However, something mucked up during the Embrace. When he first saw his new visage, he was actually ecstatic and thought God blessed him with a more attractive face.
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>>62921646

Hum... but if the cheeks are exposed, how are the lips (the lower lip in particular) still in position and able to move?
I ask this because he won't be able to speak comprehensively having paralized lips and massive air escapes in the sides of his mouth.
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>>62921677

That speaking problem may indeed mean a dice penalization in charisma and manipulation, plus abilities that use those, like socialize, persuassion, etc.
It would count as a severe speech impediment.
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>>62921677

That's a question to ask about Mileena from MK in general. I like to think that the teeth would be thick and covering completely, so when his jaw is closed, you don't have that problem.
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>>62921646
>he was actually ecstatic and thought God blessed him with a more attractive face.
You know, I actually like the "something really weird happened, we don´t know why or how" trope. It works really well in the WoD.
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>>62921704

Plus I don't play Tzimisce often because I prefer a Social/Mental or Mental/Social combo rather than Mental and Physical. I'm just the sociable kind.
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>>62921699

But when the jaw is closed you have to speak trough your teeth...
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>>62921731
Pshaw.
True Tzimisce role Metal/Social and vicissitude up the physical attributes. It's important to be sociable as a Tzimisce; it's all about that famous eastern european hospitality.
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>>62921731
Yeah, and it´s a nice plot hook for your ST to explore in the future.
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>>62921755

Any options, then? He is a priest and must serve the sermon to his Sabbat packmates somehow.

>>62921767

Indeed. Especially why he actually adores it.
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>>62921782

I can't think of any... maybe some kind of... fake jaw?

The problem is that he's a social character who cannot barely speak.
Vicissitude perhaps? Maybe he has a pack-mate who reconstructs his face before any important speech? Just extending the skin over the sides would give some sort of improvement in not that much time.
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>>62922113

I want to go with the "supernatural shit doesn't need scientific explaining" bullshit, but that sounds like a cop out.
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>>62922165
Dumb questions: wouldn´t it be possible to have his lateral teeth so big they still cover this part of the mouth both when closed and open?
Have two rows of lateral teeth, they slide one over the other but are so close and big air can only pass through the front of the mouth.
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>>62922240
It would be like having normal cheeks. Only they are made of teeth, right?
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>>62921306
ftfy
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>>62922279
Now tell me, brother, how could I resist the temptation? Of course I diablerised her.
And now there is this weird lump on my forehead...
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>>62922279
You just replaced one soul-sucking demon with another.
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>>62922165
If the grill is the most important part of the character, make a Nosferatu. All kinds of shit just happens to them over the nights following the embrace.
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>>62922240

I have a history degree and am a law student. Please explain what lateral teeth are and May be provide a pic.
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>>62921782
How about a throat Mike and speaker set up?
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>>62922376
Sorry anon, English is not my mother tongue.
By lateral teeth I mean the ones that in your picture would be covered by the cheeks.
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>>62922416

The plan was for that, yes. For them not to leave any holes open.
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>>62922443
Then just say the remaining lip musculature is obscured by the external row of teeth
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>>62922494

I've seen MKX Mileena with that get up. Should I try to find am image showing that?
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>>62922512
Yes, please.
Another alternative would be to just say those are external bony protrusions and just look like teeth.
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>>62922529

So in that alternate, would he still have regular teeth beneath? He could have regular teeth AND the sharp cheek teeth.
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>>62922549
>So in that alternate, would he still have regular teeth beneath? He could have regular teeth AND the sharp cheek teeth.
Yes, that´s how I´m imagining it. No speech problems and would still look cool. Everybody would look at it and assume those are teeth.
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>>62922577

It adds to the creepiness factor. Permanent Fangs and Distinguishing characteristics, I assume?

Rougher image than I wanted, but couldn't find another one I had in mind.
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>>62922577
It would be the best way to look like your picture, BTW. I mean, look at where the teeth are coming from. It´s way above/bellow where the real teeth should be. The lower ones look like they come from the lower half of his mandible. The upper ones look like they come from the zygomatic bone.
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>>62922625
Looks like she still has normal(?) cheeks bellow the "teeth". Which are more like bony extrusions. You can clearly see her real teeth inside her cheeks.
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>>62922641

So he has normal teeth, then. They didn't go anywhere.

>>62922666

Would they have any use or would they be purely cosmetic?
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>>62922730
>Would they have any use or would they be purely cosmetic?
Well, in this pic: >>62922625
it doesn´t really look like they could be used for anything. I would say cosmetic.
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>>62922765

Eh, all he needs for his strange "I am so pretty" attitude. Shame seeing himself would be harder as a LaSombra, but it seems to fit better than Ventrue Anti.
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>>62922804
Go with Lasombra, then. He Dominates people to make some drawings of his wonderful face.
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>>62922908

It works. Obfuscate or Fortitude for his out of Clan?
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>>62922970
Like I said, I think obfuscate is both more useful and more fun than Fortitude. But if you are going to play a combat-heavy chronicle, Fortitude may be the way to go. Are you using V5 disciplines? V5 Fortitude is actually ok.
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>>62923017

V20 for me. I like Fortitude to not die, as I am more tuned for social interaction and bring a nerd than a fighter or a brute.
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Anyway, why are the LaSombra so fitting? I just find their clan fitting the best for me, besides Ventrue and Setites.
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>>62924262
I’m partial to the Tremere.
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>>62924262

It's a racial thing.
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>>62924465

Racial?
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>>62924262
They're unnecessary, just Ventrue for the Sabbat.
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>>62924804

That man was a walking chode. He deserved his fate.
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>>62924474

The clear attraction of the Lasombra versus the indiference the Ventrue cast.
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>>62924835
>>62924804

You'll find a thread in vydia, most likely.
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>>62924850

The Ventrue may be one of the most bland clans, Brujah being the blandest and the late Ravnos being the most filthy.
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>>62924905

Only problem is sometimes the clan stereotypes run TOO deep. How likely are Anglo LaSombra, for example?
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>>62924821

The Ventrue are the result of "we need a The Man clan to contrast with the cool punk Brujah!".
Neither clan really makes sense if not as an opposition of the other.
The Toreador too were made to oppose the Nosferatu.

The Lasombra are better at being Ventrue than the Ventrue and are decadent and sybarite versus the oversexed, drunk and flamboyant Toreador, while being as evil as the Tzimisce.

Contrast
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>>62924986

See? It doesn't work at all. It just kicks you in the teeth, like a Brazilian Assamite.

Indeed, the origin, personality and history of the Lasombra are too ingrained on the (partly fictional) XVI and XVII century Spain, with all the victories and defeats, and the manner to react to those.

The Ventrue cannot be more Anglo-German even if they tried, while the Toreador, originally French, are not as english as the Ventrue (the standard "white young rich degenerate" template that is so odious but prevalent).
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>>62925031

Sorry, by "not as english" I meant "more like the American upper class".
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>>62925058

For example, Paris Hilton is the textbook Toreador.

A bland socialité of old money family know for sex tapes, scandals, and then just for being famous. Vapid and irrelevant, yet still was the center of the universe for a few years.

That's a Toreador.
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>>62925072

>a Toreador with boobs and using Presence 5

fixed
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>>62924905

In V5 every clan of the Anarchs (Brujah, Gangrel, Thin-Blood, Caitiff) has become the Brujah. Even the Tremere Anarchs are "Brujah with Magic".

The Camarilla is now so Ventrue that the Malkavian are politely ignored for most of the Camarilla book.

Anarch vs Camarilla = Brujah vs Ventrue = Multicultural 99%s vs White 1%s

Yep, that's the game now.
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>>62925194
V5 is bland as fuck.
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>>62925194

And for their little "Us vs Them" they had to remove the Sabbat, in the same way that they had to remove the Elders because then the "Anarch vs Camarilla" scenario becomes utterly ridiculous.
The whole "new metaplot" is manufactured just to be an excuse of "the poor masses vs the rich elite".

Remember, this is a game about VAMPIRES.
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>>62925275
I just want to drive future cars, I don't care about class conflict
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>>62925313

Well that's too bad, because those future cars are made with chinese slave labor and imported thanks to Capitalism which makes you an EBIL WESTERNER.

Do you love living in these interesting times?
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>>62925334

And this turned me into a borderline fascist.
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>>62925334
Can we go back to 2000? And kill Bin Laden 11 years early?
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>>62925363
Imagine the world if 9/11 never happened. No, it's too much to dream...
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>>62925363

Sorry, the 90s are over. We had our chance, we blew it.
This is the reality now.
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>>62925382


Yep, that's one the major writers of the three V5 books, and also the creator of Rudi.
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>>62925382
Yikes and cringedpilled.
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>>62925382

And I just lost all respect for this man.
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>>62925382

>For the record

For the record it is.
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>>62925072
Paris Hilton parlayed attention from a sex tape into a copyrighted brand with product lines that she promotes by getting drug convictions while on promotional tours for her product lines. She could be a Setite, too, if she wrote a self-help book.
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>>62925431
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>>62925483

He was hurt because... well read the pic.
You CANNOT make this up.
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>>62925507

>The Gentileman Goymer
>Gentileman
>Goymer

Hahaha still I don't know who the fuck came up with that, because honestly I haven't seen it.
But whoever it is deserves the Internet for a day.
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>>62925507
>goy is the worst insult
Fucking wussy.
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>>62925507

You know, that's immature, but that just means he let it get to him.
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>>62925557

It is immature, but it's just a good fucking joke.
I mean when I saw this earlier I had an honest good laugh.
It's not even an insult.
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>>62925589

My point is still that he's thin-skinned as fuck.
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>>62925557
He LARPed as Zettler, it kinda makes sense the implication would tilt him.
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>>62925632

After writting his share of V5 he could have larped as Himmler for two weeks never breaking character and still everyone would know he's a SJW.
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>>62924262
Stop writing it that way. There is no capital S
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>>62925866

Well, that'S true, but Some people have Strange preferenceS when it comeS to the naming cuStomS of characterS and/or groupS.
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>>62925866

It means "the shadow" in Spanish. It's two words, and I speak Spanish, so not capitalizing the S seems odd.
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>>62925878
*stares vampirically*
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>>62925973

Don't you mean StareS?

>>62925959

How well do you speak Spanish?
I know no native spanish speaker that capitalizes the Lasombra S.

If we did, we would have to start calling the Toreador their true name, Torero, or Matador if you feel kinky.
Toreador is poorly heard word that doesn't exist in Spanish at all. Probably a translator's mistake.
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>>62926045

>To explain, Toreador vs Torero is like Policer vs Police Officer; you get the meaning, but its a linguistic atrocity
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>>62926045
>>62926085

Nobody is here for a linguistic class tho.
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>>62925382
>Alt-Right
It's all so tiresome
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>>62925507
>I can withstand name calling, but...
Clearly not, as evidenced.
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Now the quest to call him the Gentlemen Goymer to his face begins. And remember, screen caps or it didn't happen.
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>>62926646
Funny how it's more fun to troll the developers of this ass game than it is to even play/read their late term abortion of a game.
That said, I've never terribly cared for Dawkins. He always seems too smug and it's "his Canon or the highway" with everything. From his introduction to the clans YouTube videos to his beckett jyhad diary.
It's all very tiresome out of him
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>>62926646
Gentileman, not gentleman don't forget.
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>>62927145
>The Gentileman Goymer
guys I love you
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>>62925507
Did that really happen though? Searching "gentileman goymer" on the archive gets me three results. Two in this thread and another in the previous one. All of them after a pic with his comment has been posted.
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Congratulations tg, it’s front page
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>>62928287
CUTE!
SALUBRI!
GRILLS!
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I think that the name "White Wolf" is racist and not inclusive enough.
It should be called "Rainbow Wolf" or "Wolf of Color".
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>>62928302
AMD wolf is too predator like, it should be a more tragic animal. Like the dodo.
Yes, Subsume Dodo is the new name
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So, you know how the character sheet has an option to include a drawing/ sketch of your character.
What do you do about that? I know some people like to find pics of people online that match their idea and use those while others do draw them, to varying degrees of success, others just ignore it entirely.
So, I’m curios how you deal with that.
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>>62928368
>Rainbow Dodo
sounds well
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>just wanted to read and play V5
>keep reading these generals
>keep seeing cringy shit about it
>V5 feels ruined for me before I even read it.


I'm never going to fucking run a Vampire game at this rate.
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>>62918989
Elders were there to watch computers arise form cruede mechanical calculators. Average elder should be the one giving lectures about computers.
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>>62929039
There still is the older line, but yeah the whole thing is tainted now.
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Lefty and liberal people on twitter are mad about this, based WW alienating every possible ideological group
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>>62929501
Can someone explain to me why nuWW is so obsessed with Islam?
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>>62929703
Because OPP is based in Sweden.
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>>62929727
Onyx path is PA and some are in LA.
WW is Sweden thou.
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>>62929703
the big boss of nuWW is an ethnic Swedish guy converted to Islam.
>>62929501
source please
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>>62928287
Look at all those soul sluts.
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>>62929935
Are you serious? I didn’t know Tobias was a muslim.
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>>62929935
>ethnic Swedish guy converted to Islam.
Isn't magic and horror unclean?
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>>62929703

>>62929703

Because it's over a billion people who have been emigrating to European countries and they're relevant to modern society? Because the Assamites joined the Cam?

Because Ur-Shulgi rules from his secret mountain in Iran and is the scariest thing that's awake right now and has a war with Islam?
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>>62930018

Crazy Christians in the US burn Harry Potter books. Doesn't mean that Christians aren't the majority wod playerbase. Crazy is crazy.
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>>62930086
To be fair, the rest of HP books weren't great.
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>>62930063
>the Assamites joined the Cam?
Wait, wut. Why would anyone let the assmites in?
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>>62930063
Hahahahahahaha
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>>62930137
I know, right? At least Setites make a little sense if you tilt your head and squint your eyes.
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>>62930188
To be fair, setites are mostly just evil, and treacherous.
Were as Assmites are getting off on eating people, are treacherous, and are a danger to the power struggle.
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>>62930336
I think the setites are way more interesting than the assmites.
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>>62929935
>source please
It's in the Camarilla book, I saw the screenshot on twitter so idk the page number
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>>62930521

The Gangrel and the Brujah left en masse between 2000 and 2010.

Theo Muthafuckin Bell blew Hardestadt's head off and most of the clan blames Ventrue machinations for attracting the attention of the NSA.

The Cam needed the muscle. The Setites offered to join after the Vienna Chantry got True Faith/ Prime 3 drone striked. The treaty signing between Cam/Setites got blown up, a justicar died. The Cam backed out and then signed on the Assamites who are on the outs with Ur-Shulgi. Allamut is a goddamn horror show and there is a huge exodus from the Mideast by Assamites.

The Setites said fuck you and aligned themselves with the Anarch free states. They call themselves the Ministry now.
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I will just leave this here.
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-chechnya-chapter-from-the-camarilla
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>>62930662
I wanted the tweets
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>>62930716
Why would anyone willingly work with the Setites? Assamites are good at being assassins, so whatever, but Setites just lie and scheme for shits and giggles
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>>62930716
Makes more sense to let Lasombra in or the old Tzimisce, or hell Giovanni.
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>>62930751
I gotcha
https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1060494957994098689
https://twitter.com/oakthorne/status/1060622746084769792
It does seem pretty tasteless, you'd think they'd have learned from Berlin by Night but oh well. Also kek at them making an actual Chechen strongman a vampire. Is that guy on the Discord with Goymer still around? Maybe we could ask him about this.
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>>62930867
Yeah, but assmites are a cult of soul eaters, who will eat you, and are evil, and will never work with Tremere. i.e. The guys who used to be your back bone.
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>>62930738


Hahaha!

Rainbow Wolf sure knows how to get a new fanbase!
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>>62930895
>never work with Tremere
I don't see a downside to not working with those kikes
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>>62930920
Because if tremere leaves, they will make an army of the night out of people, and take over again.
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>>62930894
Why am I not surprised that both of them have pronouns in their bio?
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>>62930947
Send the Assamites after them and the problem solves itself. They get a meal and the Tremere are dealt with. Or, best case scenario, they wipe each other out.
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>>62930873

Reminder that Montano has been on the Inner Circle of the Camarilla since its formation.
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>>62930919
I love watching all the SJW getting mad at nuWW.
Fuck, I may even sign the damn petition.
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>>62930989
Tremere fledglings already leashed the Assamites for over 500 years once
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>>62930989
The assmites gunning for Tremere, yeah like that worked out soo well last time.
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>>62931006
>Tries to appeal SJWs
>get bashed by SJWs
Get woke go broke
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>>62930989

Yeah, implying I'd rather work with the deranged but fearful Tremere rather with the Chad "Imma brown I imma gonna cuckill you and eat your soul".

Thaumaturgy beats "being silent and good with blades".

>In the real Vampire the Masquerade I mean, not Mr. Gentileman's Fanfiction
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>>62931325

I'd rather not* work
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>>62929501
I'm confused as to why there's so much stuff on chechnya in the camarilla book, isn't that entire area Sabbat/Ancillae/former soviet werewolves?
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>>62929501
They're so retarded. Put in perspective with the Gentileman's exchange from yesterday it's hilarious
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>>62931574
I really don't understand them
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>>62931574

Explain, Anon.

>>62931632

They're trying to make rules for a new culture of dignity and respect. They often go full Victorian England when they are setting up these new rules. It's just human nature, dude.
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>>62931831
>vampires threat humans like cows in VtM
>dignity and respect
wrong game dude, VtM is about abusive relationship and cynical political schemes, the opposite of "respect".
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>>62931831
He said he wouldn't come to /tg/ because someone here (allegedly) called him the "Gentileman Goymer" and defended Rudi, then said the alt-right couldn't play VtM. I guess somehow the gay vampire concentration camps aren't as ~problematic~ as /tg/ shitposters.
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>>62930894
>https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1060494957994098689
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>>62932063
I think that gay vampire concentration camps are just dumb as writing "alt-right", "feminist" and other stuff like that.
I was waiting the nazis of Illinois.
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>>62932163
>https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1060494957994098689
I find the funniest thing that SJWs are triggered by this. There are all kind of tragedies used in VtM metaplot and they didn't care at all but if you take something like this it is the end of the world.
They are truly disgusting people.
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>>62932210
Didn't they used to have a rule, where nothing that happened within 100 years would be blamed on the vampires. i.e. the Holocaust was all humans, not something the vampires did.
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>>62929501
Oh, my. Who could ever guess trying to side with a deeply homophobic religion AND the gays could lead to troubles.
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>>62932261
The fact that they took a giant shit on all of Chechnya and yet still see themselves as multicultural good guys is hilarious.
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>>62932277
Works for Rudi, he's the man *sploosh*
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>>62932312
I think Ramzan still posts on Instagram. Someone really should send him the pics.
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>>62932317
Funny, it doesn´t work for real life Rudi, who has hide his desires from his family.
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>>62932312
>>62932328
it's funny that nobody complained about how they insulted 1.3 milions of people and their republic.
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>>62932344
Well yeah, there's tons of gay muslims hiding in fear of their religion peace.
Consider that in fundamentalist places they're not allowed to interact or even see how a woman looks like.

Imagine spending your whole teenage years with nothing but dudes and goats around you.
They're probably praising Allah for the miracle of internet porn.

But yeah Rudi would've been shunned like a leper in the best of cases.
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>>62931831
Check discordanon's screencaps last thread, we had an indirect q&a with Dawkins.
Turns out despite being somewhat chill, the guy's also full on ivory tower not seeing how rudi's army's writing is cringe, the v5 metaplot is bad and full of plothole, and 'alt-righters' is a poor scapegoat to justify lazy writing and self-inserting special snowflake OC.
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BASED
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>>62932448
>>62932210
>>62932163
This is gold.
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>>62932448
I... What? I know holden's a piece of shit, but how does he arrives to the conclusion that gamergaters (is that even still a thing?) are buying a ttrpg full of sjw?
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>>62932476
Nobody wants to be associated with that piece of garbage.
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>>62932476
Redpill me on Holden
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>>62932476
Let me help, you see in Left speak "GamerGater" = Gamer/Other none Cuck.
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>>62932529
10/10
At this rate even the tremerefags and the tzifags will unite in hate.
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>>62932529
He was the lead dev for Exalted v3, did jack shit for years, get friends to do awful art, then went back to do jack shit.
It lasted for so long that even RichT got fed up with it and removed him and his friend from Exalted 3 and put others lead devs on the game line.
Since then, Holden (who's an attention whore) claims he's been unjustly treated, but the only person friendly with him among the OPP circles is Olivia Hill (previously David Hill) a paranoid tranny that also got booted by RichT for being an unstable paranoid ball of hate.
That's the gist of it, for details ask /exg/ they probably have way more details.
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Discordanon here. Matthew did not write the Chechenya part. He thinks it was a bad idea.
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>>62932611
Tell him "you aight whitegoy"
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>>62932611
He nonetheless thought Rudi was one, since he wrote him.
>>62932564
Ah yes, I forgot to translate it in English.
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Who is the most triggered categories by V5?
>Whores of Babylon
>Tremerefags
>Setitefags
>Alt-Right
>Queers
>Average normal guys
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>>62932712
You left out
>grognards
Based on the Onyx Path Forums it's definitely that one
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>>62932712
Better question: who is not triggered by this shit?
Other than the writers.
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>>62932712
Everyone is. Why are modern devs pandering to nit-picky mentality ill people? If they wanted a new consumer group then they should have done ut slowly.
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Honest question: does everybody usually takes Additional Discipline? Which discipline do you usually choose?
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>>62932937
Potence when I play a mostly social orientated character.
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>>62932937

One Dot of Serpentis

Note pass to the DM when I'm using it. Other PCs have no idea I'm raising gay for Set.
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>>62933079
Which clan is your PC?
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>>62932588

Tremere and Tzismice players ARE ALREADY unuted in the hatred of V5.

>mfw the Tzimisce rebuild the Tremere Vienna Chantry alonside the Tremere by using vicissitude and thaumaturgy on anarch still living bodies
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>>62932611

How is V5 selling so good if both the right and the left seem to hate it equally?

>"We sell only to the midlle madlul"
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>>62933370
>The most hyped rpg of the year is selling
I have no idea.
Will the line keep its sells?
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>>62932588
I want futanari tzimisce qties
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>>62932937

I dont take add disci merit. I'm not playing a fucking blooline.
When I pick out of clan disciplines I pay the full price like any self-respecting, God fearing vamp should.

>If you play at Ancilla level without Dominate 3 (but no more) and at least Obfuscate 2 (ideally 4) you are doing it WRONG
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Rudi's breaking the Masquerade!
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>>62933315
>>62933435
So, this time the Tremere and Tzimisce are getting together to make futas and catgirls?
Better than bloodbrothers, I guess.
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>>62933449
>When I pick out of clan disciplines I pay the full price like any self-respecting, God fearing vamp should.
Come on, anon, all the cool kids are getting the additional discipline merit. It´s even better if you get a rare discipline.
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>>62933495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWkQ7S2Cf2M
100% faithfull to Sweden
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>>62929039

Just run V20 then, or an even earlier edition if that's what tickles your fancy!

That's what all the sane people are doing.
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>>62933496

Blood Sisters?
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>>62933530
>how you feel after buying V5 books
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>>62932937
1 point in dominate is always usefull if you don't have as a starter
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>>62933538
Blood persons
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>>62933538

Blood Catgirl Sisters?
>Breed from actual cats and girls?

The Tremere-Tzimisce steamroller cannot be stopped.
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>>62933592
Now all we need is to steal some necromancy...
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>>62933615

Giovanni, no! Back! Bad boy!
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>>62933619
It´s cool, anon, we need the Gios alive so we learn this shit.
Unless we can find a ritual to fix that...
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>>62933592
>>62933538
>>62933315

Now I am (catgirls aside) honestly considering a Tzimisce-Tremere alliance.
After all, they are literally Cland and Bloodline, they share regional origins (both are central and eastern Europe), both are insane tyrants, both can into blood sorcery, and both manipulate reality and flesh.

The Tzimisce and Tremere are also sick of playing second fidddle to the Lasombra and Ventrue respectively.

I'm seeing it. A new sect breaks from both Camarilla and Sabbat. Their hatred binds them so closely together that turns into twiste love.

I need a name for the new Sect.
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>>62933681

>Giovanni can join too because these guys are literally the only ones who can save them from the Harbringers/Cappadocians
and neither Camm nor Sabb will ever accept them.

Fuck, now the Tzimisce-Tremere alliance has even a pet clan. Now this is a proper Sect alreayd.

>Of course the whole Giovanni leadership needs to be purged badly
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>>62933681
Tremisce?
Tzimere?
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>>62933681
>>62933706
Such sect would be a magical powerhouse.
And weirdness factory.
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>>62933495
Poe's law. I can no longer tell if it's satire or not.
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>>62933615
I'm sure the Harbingers would be happy to help.
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>>62933681
>I need a name for the new Sect.
The Rod and the Dragon
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>>62933796
Do we ally with the Gios or with the Harbingers... tough question.
I´m leaning Harbingers. What do you think?
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>>62933681
>>62933706
>>62933712
>>62933744

As the chaos caused by the Anarch revolts and the Second Inquisition kept destroying the traditional order, new problems arose.
The weakened Tremere Pyramid was not going to survive long if the Assamites were to join the Camarilla. They were going to be replaced, and they full well knew it, now that they had lost the worldwide coordination of Vienna (and the very fear and sensation of omnipotence the name used to cause among the Kindred).
On the other hand of the Sectarian Spectrum, the Tzimisce had no intention of leaving their ancestral lands or they newly conquered territories to pursue a senseless head-hunt in the Middle East, seeing themselves as the elite, not expendable pawns to be thrown into Assamite’s maws.
Finally, the relentless assault against the Giovanni by those who were thought to be extinct was making the younger half of the Clan desperate, seeing how their elders were forcing them to the frontline while they searched in vain for a way to escape.
The inevitable happened, and after several years of meetings and failed attempts, representatives of the majority of the Clan Tremere, Clan Tzimisce and Clan Giovanni signed the Supremacy Concordat the night of the Ninth of November, 2018.
A new age of vengeance had dawned upon the world.
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>>62933842
The Harbingers are really hateful and pissed off, so they would be quite a good fit I guess.
Giovanni have much more weight on kine affairs, though if we're going with V5's fanfics it's not a good thing with the 2nd Inq.
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>>62933796
>>62933842

The Harbringers want to die bringing the Giovanni down. THey explicitly said so. They are not here to stay, the are here to drag their enemies to Hell with them.
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>>62918343
Serious but slightly silly question; could the vampires from masquerade/requiem survive in Ravenloft? I've been wondering for some time how it might work if the clans were direct-lifted and dropped into a dark/serious fantasy world such as ravenloft, forgotten realms or dare I say it Warhammer fantasy.
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>>62933898
>Supremacy Concordat
I like that.
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>>62933898

This is my new canon and I'm happy if you share it for your own chronicles.

>Using Revised/V20 rules of course
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>>62933898
Nice. I'll just had the Pemascine Giovanni leading the split.
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>>62934021

That's actually a good idea.
They could become the new elders of the clan Giovanni (after chomping on the other elders).
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>>62933914
>The Harbringers want to die bringing the Giovanni down. THey explicitly said so. They are not here to stay, the are here to drag their enemies to Hell with them.
Jesus, those freaks gotta chill down.
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>>62934021
Wait, refresh me here; aren't there only about 20-50 Giovanni left in the world? I remember reading in oWod that the baali salubri and I believe Giovanni are at the 'nearly-extinct' census-numbers.
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>>62934062

I mean, they spent one thousand years in the Underworld.
Far longer that they spent on Earth. Those guys minds are simply... gone. They have more in common with Specters than with Vampires.
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>>62934067

No, the Giovanni are a full clan.
We only heard about initial purges, but they were never in "oh you just got Ravnos'd" levels.
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>>62934067
That´s just what we want the world to believe anon.
We are the Conspiracy.
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>>62934067
>Baali
Always unknown levels, went to hiding after the baali wars so they can be either really few or a good number.
>Salubri
Healers are few and scarce, Warriors have a revival in the Sabbat as the Salubri Antitribu, and Watchers/Wu Zao are in Asia so who knows/cares
>Giovanni
They're quite fine. Only a few words in V5 that say they're in bad shape, but they're obviously talking of the old clan Giovanni and not the ones in the Concordat
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>>62934089
But the baali and the salubri are in fact at the extinct / nearly-extinct level? Or that is at least what we are lead to believe? I seem to very faintly remember being told that Giovanni were effectively unplayable due to the fact that there are very few of them or something along those lines. It may have been because it was one of my first characters.
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>>62934145
They were never scarce to the point of being unplayable, you've probably been bamboozled because you were a new players and your ST judged it simpler than having to introduce an Independent at your table.
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>>62934021
>>62934061

It is well known that the Premascine, among the Giovanni, ever resentful of the main clan’s betrayal and the humiliations they had to endure in order to survive, shepherded their young into this new deal. They acted by inciting them to open rebellion first subtly, then openly leading them. After filling their bodies with the blood of the other elder Giovanni, now the clan had a new leadership, ancient and ruthless, to support its own weight in the new Supremacy Concordat.

>Added to Canon
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>>62934178
Probably easier for me anyway, at that time I had only played 5-6 characters in oWoD period.
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>>62934185
This.
Also, can we get them to be a little bit less incest-prone?
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>>62934185
Amen to that.
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>>62934145

Baali could be any number really, but they are still probably the most numerous bloodline. If this is hard to believe, consider that the Baali were once a full clan with numbers similar to all the others.
The Salubri seem to only exist in any real amount in the Sabbat, and that could mean a hundred of these guys.
It is not implied that they are only a few dozen of them, but at the same time it is clear that they are just a debilitated bloodline trying to increase their presence.
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>>62934225

I guess that will come naturally, now that they are in a proper sect with other clans.
Besides, why fuck your deformed cousin when you can comission the Tzimisce for a qt 99 grill in exchange for a few ghostslaves?
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>>62934259
"Fuck, John Giovanni´s been fucking that catgirl in my lab again!"
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>>62934225
Probably since the Premascine will probably reform a lot of the old Clan's rulings and hierarchy. Also being part of a Sect with Other Clans as Anon said.
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>>62934290

"But he's given me the soul of Billy Ventrue to play with, so I guess it's okay".
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>>62934145
Was it maybe that there were very few of them operating independently and cooperating outside of the family? Because they're more aggressively insular than Tremere ever were.
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Fuck, the Concordat's missing the Salubri qts.
Outside of that, I really like that idea. How does one publish something on the Storyteller Vault? I'm far from having the time or ability to write it in a decent way, but it could be fun.
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>>62934358
That could be it too, but this was so long back (oWoD had been out for around 2 years at this time) I really don't remember the specifics, but I ended up never trying to use a Giovanni again so I never found out.
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>>62934358
>more aggressively insular than Tremere ever were.
Now that I think about it... two insular clans, plus a clan obsessed with privacy. The Concordat is going to be very social, is it?
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>>62934396
Probably as much as us.
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>>62934381
>Fuck, the Concordat's missing the Salubri qts.
We have a few in the Chantry´s basement, if you want...
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>>62934396

The Giovanni are there to be the face and the money-maker. The Tremere are there to conspire and destroy threats. The Tzimisce can play counter-intelligence and anti-spionage like there is no tomorrow.

>>62934381

No idea. Never done so.
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>>62934469
How would they answer non vampire threats such as werewolf incursions or the schemes and machinations of mummies or demons? Though I never played as either mummies or demons I was under the impression that they are both insanely overly powerful (compared to most other spheres).
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>>62934526

By copious amount of slaved-wraith magic and even more copious amount of Thaumaturgy, Koldunism, War Ghouls and Gargoyles?

Who's going to tell them shit? Like, go is going to go out of their way to antagonize them?
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>>62934381

We can make you all Salubri qts you waken. It takes a good Tzimisce half an hour of work to transplat someone's eye into someone elses forehead and then connect it to the brain.
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>>62918343
Anyone got a tracking of clans from best to worst?
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>>62934608

"You ever wanted" has somehow mutated into "you waken".
The vicissitude is going strong already.
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>>62934619
Concordat clans >>> Lasombra > Ventrue> Malkavians >Setites >>> all the rest
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>>62934608
Sup, Tzi bro, I have this lump on my forehead...
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>>62934647

Pretty much. Some fine tunning may be requiered, but the Supremacy Concordat reigns sovereign.
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>>62934669
You no longer have to remove it now, why not explore the mysteries of the Soul?
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>>62934669

You mean this beautiful baby-blue eye? You are welcome anon.
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>>62934381
V5 content is not allowed on the ST Vault it seems. It might still be fun to try to do a proper file for the Supremacy Concordat one day.
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>>62934647
>>62934647
>Supremacy Concordat
Neonate here, what's this?
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>>62934692
Because the only Valeren power I like is the Watcher´s level 1 Valeren. The rest sucks.
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>>62934720
Here:
>>62933898
>>62934185

Also, tell us your clan, neonate.
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>>62934720

See

>>62933898
>>62934185
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>>62934718

Hahahaha! They literally don't want proper fanfiction to compete with the official weak fanfiction.
This is gold.
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>>62934769
>https://storytellersvault.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000956751-Content-Guidelines
>You can use 1st, 2nd, 3rd (“revised”), and 4th (“V20”) editions of Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf: The Apocalypse and Mage: The Ascension.
Yeah, everything's fair game except V5. They're so confident in it they don't allow fanfiction ffs.
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>>62934574
I'm not sure but it's inevitable that at some point in time, even if it's hundreds of years later, demons or mummies may cross one or more members of it. I only encountered mummies twice and never encountered demons, but the way it was presented to me sounded to me like Mummies are OP to the point that, unless you have some specific defenses against them, you just lost, period. The one time I got killed by one it was like "The mummy finishes the magical magic, you just died, period." No dice rolls, no anything, just instant character death, before I even got my turn to even try to do anything (which pissed me off but as powerful as they seemed at the time, it made sense).
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>>62934853

Then that would be an issue to every single Sect and Clan, not just the Concordat, right?
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>>62934870
Most likely but I seem to remember that there are relatively few mummies in the world. Of course, if what I saw is true and every one of them is a level 86 billion mage, 1 is to many of them.
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>>62934853

>Also, that was your ST just fucking you over; neither Demons nor Mummies are invincible, not by a long shot. "Very strong creatures" gets countered by "12 kolduns, 12 thaumaturges, 12 necromancers lashing out their pets, magic and themselves at you simultaneosly".
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>>62934930
I must confess that it's been so long since I played (numerous years), that I can't remember what kolduns are.
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>>62934957

Tzimisce Blood Mages.
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>>62934975
But wait a minute, maybe I'm mistaken (it has been YEARS since I even read a page of any of the core books) but doesn't some magic come from demons? And if that's the case, couldn't said demon just say "Your spell doesn't work" boom, nullified?
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>>62935002

Nope. It "may" come from ONE Demon, who happens to be Kupala, who happens to be one of a kind. Certainly not "a demon".

But most importantly, like any other vampiric "magic", it comes from the Vitae. It's "powered by the Blood of Caine".
Vampires don't need to "borrow" the source for their powers elsewhere. Their blood IS a source of power.

>That's why its called "Blood Magic"...
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>>62935048
Feels like a lot of my gripes with the system and world are mostly from barely-remembered and mis-remembered system-lore and system-rules.
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Fellow Concordat members:
there is this cute Kiasyd girl I know, so i was wondering... Are we allowing bloodlines into our sect?
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A thing that I really don't understand, how it is possible that a game based on cynic political treacheries, where everybody and every factions are lieing about their real purpose, where everything is another masquerade inside another masquerade, like chinese boxes, became a refuge for people in search of a safezone where they can feel protected by a nightwatch made of superheroes?
What the fuck is supposed to be V5, twilight?
VtM should have given the cultural resources to watch reality in another light.
Does not exist a political movement that defend the "rights of women, muslim, blacks, latinos, put whatever minority virtual or real". It is a fucking lie built to manipulate you, what the fuck, it is the core of VtM original game. Even the Anarch are a lie at their core.
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>>62935115

As long as they accept the Supremacy of the Clans, they can be... auxilia.
Like the Roman ones.
The very best ones can be Auxilia Palatina.
Full members? No. Protected allies? Yes.
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>>62935115
If they swear fealty to the Concordat, I don't see why not.
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>>62935082

Eh, after a few years its only normal not to be right into it.

>>62935141

I have my theory that V5 is supposed to fail. It is intentionally designed to alienaty as much of the fanbase and as many people as possible.

But, what's the end goal? I don't know, and thus, it's only a theory.
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>>62935198
My experiences (mostly online) created an environment in which I literally hated almost everyone and was planning death and mayhem on almost everyone I met. I ended up taking the 'trust no one' angle so far that I killed off more than half the player group's characters in the course of one story, either by discretely guaranteeing dice failure by ways and means or by just killing them outright towards the end. The crowning complete fuck up of all was NONE of the player characters were conspiring against me, I just couldn't figure out who was, ever, because all the clues were so oblique you'd need to be sherlock fucking holmes to even have a chance of figuring it out, so it all ended in a colossal 'fuck you get the fuck out' situation, after which I never bothered to find another group. I had been fucked over and fucked up so many times I was at the 'open hostility towards nearly everyone' phase of 'I HATE YOU' feelings.
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>>62935198
No, I think it was made for what are called "SJW" by people that do not understand them but tried so hard to do so.
What I don't get is the audience. How can be possible that the audience is formed by a bunch of... of... manchild? It is not the correct term, by... people that want to play a superhero game?
I don't know. It just shocks me.
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>>62935284
sjws are mostly complete garbage and I wouldn't piss on them if they were burning to death in napalm. If there was one group I wish would just get killed by a conglomeration of extremely violent horrible beings, it's sjws.
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>>62935279

Well, that's certainly a different issue, but one unrelated to Vampire.
As long as you ignore the SJWs and V5 apologists you can find decent people (as decent as anyone can be) here.

However, physically talking and dealing with people cannot be replicated with messages online. What can be a friendly banter in person becomes a flamewar online.

'tis a pitty, but it is what it is.
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>>62935419
I don't know what V5 is, and rain shit on sjws daily, so that sounds fine to me. I don't hate the game per se (though there are sections I would deeply change), I just dislike the whole cynical extremely byzantine treachery-base cultural background of vampires. It makes me paranoid.
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>>62935315

I would piss on a sjw to stop him from being burnt alive.
Then I would make sure that everyone knows that this SJW has been saved by the likes of me.
That's the worst thing you can do to them.
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>>62935469
I don't know if that's worse than skinning them alive and then hanging their bodies upside down from the eves of their own houses, but yeah, saving them and forcing them to acknowledge it (they never will) is certainly right up there on the 'horrible things I wish would happen to sjws' list.
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>>62935461

V5 is the new ultra SJW mentally deranged version.

Vampires are like that, however. The treachery/betrayal aspect can be played up or down, but that's like saying "I don't like the court of Versailles, or of Constantinople, because they are a bunch of traitorous scum". You would be right, but it's something inimical to the human condition among those who have power.
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>>62935504
And this is why I would never make it at Versailles or Constantinople. I would end up killing or otherwise severely fucking up people over the -possibility- of being betrayed by them.
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>>62935504
And by severely fucking up I mean chopped off limbs, burned alive family members, spines torn out, children's heads bashed against the floor in front of their parents, the lot of it.
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V5's not out for half a year and we already added the Concordat and Christiano to it.
I wonder how it'll look like in a year.
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>>62935461
>paranoid
that is the purpose of VtM
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So by /VG/ cannon, the Sabbat is only Lasombra and the antitribus now? What will happen with the Old Clan? Will the surviving Tremere antitribu join the Concordat? And what about the few (if they even still around) Ravnos?
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Autism, fresh out off the press.
Good to negate any “reply or mother will die” posts or anything considered a cursed post
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>>62935788
>Valerian
>mfw
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>>62935788
>sacrifice herself for the greater good
>eats souls
Nice try, demonic slut.
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>>62935788
Thanks Salubri, but with the Concordat forming you're pretty much doomed.

Also, taking a break from my normal shitposting, people seem to think that diableriezation feels good. I figured that having your soul destroyed would be pretty terrible, but is it just like any other form of blood drinking?
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What's the setting for V5?

Is it a post-Gehenna event? What happened to all the elder kindred? What about the thin-bloods? What's going on with organizations like the Camarilla and the Sabbat?
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>>62935950
there was no Gehenna, but there was a "Gehenna war" (Basically the wars in Iraq and such) where Sabbat was almost destroyed and scattered, there is a second Inquisition formed pretty much by all intelligence + Leopold society that killed most of the elders.
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>>62935942
I don't think the Concordat's going hard on them. The Tzimisce have protected them from times to times, the Tremere don't need to enforce their place as a major clan anymore, and the new Giovanni don't seem to care.
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>bored, open /v/'s catalog in case there's comfy thread hidden somewhere or some fun
>see this
Let's try not to laugh.
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>>62934469
>The Giovanni are there to be the face and the money-maker.
Mafia + magic.

>The Tremere are there to conspire and destroy threats.
(((Conspiracy))) + magic.

>The Tzimisce can play counter-intelligence and anti-spionage like there is no tomorrow.
James Bond villains + magic.

Concordat is comfy as fuck.
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>>62936272
>Let's try not to laugh.

Welp, I've failed.
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>>62936272
>Let's try not to laugh
Too late.
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>>62936272

Someone got fired. Again?

Well, the random purges are a very lefty thing, so I'm not surprised.
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>>62936272
>undergoing some significant transitions
Well at least they're closer to the new fanbase
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>>62936481
>working for a sjw bunch of "brilliant" people
what can go wrong?
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>>62936511

Haha!

>>62936272

So who's being promoted to customer now? Any news on that?
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>>62936511
keked
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>>62936481
But the real question is: can they pass?
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>>62936272

I wish we could speak with the guy they choose as scapegoat, on Discord.

I wonder if he has something different to say than the Gentileman Goymer.
Behind fired and publicly blamed for... whatever the issue is here... tends to make people talkative.
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>>62936635
Do we even know who wrote this part?
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>>62936629

Pass, like what?

Suck up to the SJW so that they "forgive" them?
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>>62936656
It was a joke. A shitty one. Sorry, I have no sense of humour.
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>>62936654

Nope, but Gentile said vehemently that it was not him. May be in one of the quotes of this thread.
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https://utilitymuffinlabs.com/25-years-of-vampire-the-masquerade/

GG just released an interview.
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>>62936885

>Two hours of asperging

If someone finds a transcription of the interesting/more ridiculous than usual parts, please post.

Also, new thread?
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>>62936951

>>62936925
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