Previously: >>93940538Guildpact Edition>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.https://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQBetween Izzet and Selesnya, who wins in the battle for the last unsucked cock?
I've enjoyed getting into Commander, i've met lots of people and made friends down at my LGS, thankyou boys.
oh god he fell for it, look what you've all done to this poor schmuck >>93947888
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>93947766Actual previous:>>93947758
>>93947766Remember how cucked Keksnya was during Dragon's Maze?
Gay Bolas
My friends get so upset at people running new cards that I've now felt morally obligated to do it all the time.>building a changeling tribal tribal deck>going to include three-tree mascot because why wouldn't I>No, that's cringe, run the old lorwyn ones>immediately go and buy the random pushed Modern Horizon ones and cram them in out of spite
>play group always holds removal and counterspells for my commander>every single game>no matter what deck I play>even if it's a new deckI get that it's a sign of respect, but like fuck do I just want to be able to play commander on curve once.
>>93955220Play cavern of souls. Hold up a counterspell. Slap some boots on it.
>>93955126Yeah but we got penis wurm and voice so that was cool
>>93955220This is just bias
>dragontimmy Alright fine, message received, I play demontimmy now
Reposting esper combat matters (arna) after a few changes. My board wipes are on the way, I promise. I still need talismans slotted in. Opened and want to test saw, sheltered by ghosts, and enduring curiosity.Any recommended cuts for talismans?Do I then have enough artifacts, around 25, for etherium sculptor to be worth?If I want to be attacking on 3/4/5, what density/curve of creatures do I need?Would you put a sun titan here, and if so, over what?
>>93955220Weirdly I have almost the exact opposite problem now. >learn to play in a pod with control tranny>he’s constantly playing steal and interrupting your plays>put a bunch of instants in my decks by default and anything that will fuck up a plan like removal or removing abilities>control tranny left earlier this year>move into an adjacent pod>1 guy in particular always tries to build OP decks>doesn’t include any negates or recovery or any interaction with my board>I think someone brought an exile ONCE>all sit at the table whining about my board wipes and other removal>can’t actually focus me because they’re not running interactionIt’s bizarre to tell you the truth
>>93955280>I play demontimmy nowNot at 6CMC in rakdos you don’t.
>>93955280What about becoming a demon colored dragontimmy instead?
>>93955231>>93955266I play Cavern of Souls. The only time I've managed to resolve my commander on curve in the past six months is if I had Cavern of Souls and a free interaction in hand. I'm not kidding when I say they ALWAYS hold removal for my commander on the turn I would play it. I would understand if I'm playing something like Kaalia, Korvold or Miirym, but I play shit like Mizzix and Henzie where they take a couple turns to get going.
>get focused down with damage by one player>get focused down with mill by another>the third player goes unanswered, I lose and he winsI know I was scary but this was just bad strats
>>93953671Same energy.
>>93955523Same energy
>>93955334As cool as he is I think you probably want Rivaz of the claw in the command zone instead.
>>93955430The alternate in this scenario is just you going unanswered and winning while he loses.
>>93955280Have you considered just running lots of instant speed removal to blow up people that try swinging in at you early?
>>93955220Play a deck that doesn't revolve around the commander. I have a food token deck headed up by Greta and I don't pop her out unless I need a little bit of card draw or more food. Also, choose less threatening commanders. I have a Gorion deck where Gorion has survived the entire game because he isn't threatening enough to be on anyone's radar.
>>93955220Let them try.
>>93947766I unironically look down upon you if you're using a precon at a serious table and/or using an EDHRec top 100 commander.
>>93955574no, the mill player could have tried millin the third player and have a better chanse. he was wasting resources for some reason
>>93955713>serious table>but you can't use the serious commanders???
>>93955713based low iq contrarian
>>93955682Actually kind of based. What sort of bullshit can I run in this deck? Purphoros and Impact Tremors seem like no brainers.
>>93955713>I only respect people with 7cmc vanilla commanders, like my Chuckleburble McAnus visible belt tribalFuck off, you don't even play
>>93955132
>>93955614Why did they make her Indian?
>>93955975Shut up faggoid.Why yes that is C11 btw.
I choose land
>>93955923This is the only card you need to see.
>>93955220this but with non-land permanents instead of just commander
>>93956035this but with lands instead of just non-land permanents
>>93956103actually happened today but it was justified because I was the threat
>>93956121same. my playgroup will always strip mine me if they have it in hand on turn one. it's really fucking frustrating.
Pulled a Nashi at pre-release and now he's gonna be my Room deck commander, what other enchantment synergies can the deck take advantage of?
>>93956139I wouldn't really mind if it didn't make them lose the game so often because of bad threat assesment
>>93956183You probably should play some enchantments, they have sick synergies.
>>93956197which ones are good with the graveyard in Dimir?
>>93956186Right? That's the frustrating part. They do all this stupid shit to spite me for winning so often but it causes them to lose more.
>>93956183>I pulled a bad card>let me build a shit deck based around an undersupported mechanicClassic anonymous.
>>93956213the only exception that I don't win
>>93956183go to npcrec if you don't want to actually build a deck yourself
>>93956223I pulled a card I thought was cool and I wanna explore a new sub-type of enchantment with it. Better than just looking up an edhrec top 100 list
>>93956207Sagas, probably. I'm mostly here to shitpost, but Demonic Embrace is pretty good.
>>93956238I'm just looking for some cards anon, didn't ask anyone to build anything. I've gotten some awesome recommendations in these threads for cards I had never even seen before which is why I like asking here
>>93956223pure commander
>>93956257>Sagas, probablyI was looking at Inventive Iteration. I'll have to check the rules but I think Living Breakthrough would be kind of funny with casting the different sides of room cards
>>93956249No, because those decks can actually play the game.>>93956271Undeniably.
>>93956183Got the alt art Marina Vendrell and a lot of the rooms including 3 of the mythics so with what i pulled and a hodge podge of my existing collection im already most of the way done with my room deck but i don't know if i want to run flicker synergy for her first ability or untap synergy for her second.also its an excuse to make fun use of marvo deep operator.
3/3 trample exaltedOR1/1 shroud "whenever a creature dies, ~ gets a +1/+1 counter"
>>93956343>marvo deep operatorLol because the rooms will make you win the clash! Oh I'm so throwing that into Nashi
>>93956341>No, because those decks can actually play the game.Almost any deck can be built in a way that works anon
>>93956266alright since you asked so nicely and tolerated me being an assthis guy needs to hit in combat and auras would be the obvious choise to buff him, but what if you also debuffed their creatures to get through? this removes the risk with auras of having all eggs in one basket when he eventually eats the removal.this is one of my recent favorites but there are many auras that make the enchanted creature lose their abilities and become small in blue.that's also good against annoying value commanders since they are stuck with it on board until they kill it themselves
>>93956372Not when you have an extremely undersupported one set mechanic as the central theme. The deck will either have minimal to do with it, or be basically unplayable and filled with lands primarily.
>>93956398Oh yea that could be a fantastic way to make combat better for me and also trigger Eerie and Constellation a whole bunch all at once
>>93956400>The deck will either have minimal to do with it, or be basically unplayable and filled with lands primarilyAll decks should be filled with lands primarily and there are a lot of ways to stretch a mechanic out
>>93956407there is also this if you have any constellation fuckery in mind but I can't think of any good ones in these colors at the moment except doomwake giant which board wipes
>>93955614I'm trying to do a golgari food dek. Drop a link brother
>>93956419How many dimir "rooms" are there?
>>93955998I choose to ask why you keep posting this? Be funny or interesting next time
>>93955998When would this ever be good? Azorius copies has better targets unless you think you're smart with locks, at which point I'm sure this is not the best form of this effect.
>>93956421Thoughtrender Lamia, Grim Guardian, and Sage of Mysteries all seem good.>>93956429>How many dimir "rooms" are there?blue and black accounts for about 39% of all total rooms printed
what's worse, rooms or battles?
>>9395642911 cards in total or 22 rooms if you count both halves. And the win condition requires only having 8 rooms open.
>>93956555battles because it's a useless card type
>>93956556plus blue lets you clone enchantments
>>93956555Battles at least face the way you think they do when they're in play
>>93956398>>93956421I don't know about board wipes necessarily but I fucking love blue enchants that turn good cards into bad cards.Would highly recommend Metamorphic Alteration, Frogify, Slimebind, So Tiny.You're also in dimir, which has one of the single best cards in the game, Fate Transfer. Steal all your opponent's +1/+1s, or move some stun counters. Initially I played this combo with Sleep-Cursed Faerie because it's a much mana cost, but if you need enchantments, use Kitnap, don't gift a card, then just move the stun counters onto something else.The Overlords in Duskmourn can all come in as enchantments with 4 time counters, Fate Transfer can remove all those for 2, which will often be the same as casting the card's cost rather than the impending cost, but if you do happen to be playing someone who is also using an Overlord, put your impending counters onto their card instead.
>>93956639Oop forgot picAlso:*much lower
>>93956645Allow me to introduce myself
>>93956645Wonderful. Ought get these for my UchBenbak jank deck.
>>93956658>sorcery>one counter>target permanent you controlNah it's not as good. I do run a copy in my Ivy, Gleeful Spellthief deck to move around ability counters but they've never printed anything quite like Fate Transfer. It is unique, and amazingly cheap. I bought up 3 copies from my LGS just so I'd always have spare in case I can't get them in future.
>>93956680I expect we'll get a reprint or an update when we return to lorwyn
>>93956668Yeah I've always thought it would be fun to put finality counters on my opponent's cards but I don't think it'd be worth running unless you could get multiple uses out of Fate Transfer somehow
>>93956011>playing with my friend group, I'm playing Gissa Sunslayer, another friend on Norrin>play tombstone stairwell>friend plays confusion in the ranks>confusion not only triggers multiple times each upkeep due to stairwell, it also caused the tombstone stairwell to get passed around several times meaning the cumulative upkeep kept getting bypassed90 minutes in to this nonsense we just decided to scoop and play a game of cedh.
lord of pain sounds fun
>>93956684I'm not so sure, it feels like they've always been careful to make counter moving abilities only able to move +1/+1 counters. It's kind of a design flaw of the whole game that they'll randomly introduce a new kind of counter every now and then, without preventing it from interacting with old mechanicsProliferate is the golden example, because it's a mechanic that just lets you add a counter to ANY CARD ON THE FIELD OR PLAYER that already has a counter of that type. Utterly fucking insane value. I would hate to see the poor bastard who tries Impending his Overlord against a proliferate deck and the thing never hits the field.
>>93956686Transferring finality counters to your opponent's shit seems like it'd be fun, but then you remember that there's so much grave hate these days that all you're really doing is making bounce good and turning off flicker. The number of cases where it's actually useful are astonishingly low
>>93956686blue is the king of spell recursion, dimir doubly so because of black's gy interaction. if you can't figure out a way to cast it twice or more in a game thats kind of on you
So I buy my bundle blind as I do for all recent sets and duskmourn seems genuinely low powered unlike the bloomburrow meme. There are maybe 2 cards I saw I'd even consider putting in a deck.
>>93956768>if you can't figure out a way to cast it twice or more in a game thats kind of on youTwice is fucking easy, the problem is that most cards that let you play the same spell twice will also exile it.If it was a permanent, it'd be easy, there's a thousand copy spells out there. But I can only think of a few spells that will copy an instant and they have drawbacks like pic related.
>>93956778Buy singles.I think my top picks for this set are:1. Leyline of Transformation so I can do tribal without changelings2. Demonic Counsel for Demonic Tutoring on a budget.3. Marvin for obvious shenanigans
>>93956790See double, complete the circuit, hive mind if you're feeling extra chaotic
>>93956864Ooo I like Complete the Circuit. It's going in my faerie tribal deck, I can cheese it out with faerie tokens.
>>93956888Twincast, Virtue of Knowledge, Lilah, Uyo. There's a lot just in monoblue
>>93956902I have a copy of Virtue of Knowledge, doesn't it only duplicate ETB triggers on permanents?
>>93956798I actually got a Marvin which I'm happy about cause I think he will be my first colorless commander. Was hoping for an Annabel but oh well she's probably not even a dollar>buy singlesAgreed!
>>93956925the adventure is a twincast
>want to play red>all the good red cards are expensive as fuckWhy?
>>93947766hello https://youtube.com/shorts/0dOfICUKHro?feature=share
>>93956933Marvin stocks are gonna go to the moon if he isn't banned
>>93956963Other formats. Red make life number go down. It's literally that simple.
>>93956963Have you considered that others too want to play red?
The Rakdos precon has better mana base than my Rakdos deck.
>>93955993Spicy food
>be me>dislike "The Professor">still has shitloads of content tho>decide to watch his video about lands for EDH>realize he's lost every fucking game of EDH I've ever seen him play>close the video
>>93957099Something something>the student surpasses the professor
>>93957113>the students livers have been completely obliterated
>>93957090But...but they're almost all tapped-lands anon...how is your deck worse than that?
I got a Marvin and I'm not particularly excited about him. All my current commanders use triggered abilities, and a three card infinite mana combo doesn't seem particularly impressive.
UOOOOGH
>>93957197Holy fuck is that a reference to thing I know?
>>93957215little girls?
Question: How do dual face cards with different card types on each side work in relation to delirium? Are both taken into account? Just the front?
>>93957222You're an Oingo Boingo fan?
>>93955126Selesnya was the only color to get a card worth a shit in dragons maze. The mythic deer guy thing was going for 30 and was the only thing selling that garbage pile set
>>93957191I like him for the same reason I like Varchild he can mix going wide and tall real well
>>93957280They make me feel so good
>>93957276Just the front.>712.8a While a double-faced card is outside the game or in a zone other than the battlefield or stack, it has only the characteristics of its front face.
>>93957281Getting five cluestones in a booster was pretty funny though. Almost a redeeming quality of the set if you ask me.
What the fuck is this art? It's cool but makes little sense. Human Assassin.Why is his face on TV screens? Why is his hand gigantic as if he is a giant when he is a human? Are all the guys in the art meant to be tiny toy sized things?
>>93957352>why his face on tv screensI think this is commentary on social media and hate mobs>why his hand giantIf you look at the hand you can see it is a projection, that it is not physically present.
>>93957364Shouldn't he be an artifact creature like Mr. House?
>>93957352He's basically a disembodied spirit that lives inside of the TV dimension and can manifest on any TV in the plane. He's depicted in a few other cards, too. He's "the first razorkin" and apparently the defacto leader of that group. As for why he's a "Human Assassin" despite basically being dead, I have no idea. I think his backstory implied that his body is actually still "alive" technically and killing it would destroy him, so I guess he's technically not a "spirit", but that feels like a very weird technicality for what should probably be an Artifact Spirit.
>>93957352>>93957364>>93957368>>93957382The way i interpreted it was that he's just appearing on TV screens to give orders
>>93957390That's what I assumed from the art, too, but his backstory blurb says he's a disembodied spirit that lives inside the TVs.>The Lord of Pain is a former survivor and the first-ever razorkin who's devoted to the discovery of new sensations of pain. Countless years ago, in his quest for ever-increasing pain, he managed to catch a cellarspawn and extract its essence to inject into himself, hoping that infusing himself with pure fear would inflict an agony upon him that no one had ever felt before. Instead, he found that it wrenched his mind from his body and flung it into the screens of the House. One of the screens overlooked a survivor's painful death, and as the Lord of Pain watched, he realized that he could feel every moment of pain and agony as if he was experiencing it for the first time. From that moment on, he gleefully abandoned his mortal body to live exclusively within the House's screens, watching and savoring every moment of torture he could find. Somewhere within the razor mazes is a room where his body is stashed. Many survivors believe that if they can find it and destroy it, that will be the end of him, a rumor that the Lord of Pain actively encourages because it means more survivors will willingly enter the razor mazes—where hordes of razorkin eagerly lie in wait.
The fact there wasn't a dead by daylight crossover is hilarious to me considering how close in various aspects of lore they are.
>>93957404Honestly, I've been saying for weeks that the lore of Duskmourn is just a vehicle for spooky 80s art and makes no fucking sense, so I'm not sure why I ever thought it would be logical.
I want to make a fairy tribal group hug and the 2 don't really go together very well. Do I just give up or are there big-brain anons who can do the thinking for me?
>>93956223Standard is that way
>>93957443It has far better lore than bloomburrow, Outlaws and MKM which I never even saw discussed.Scary demon takes over a plane and turns it into his haunted house is cool, and I've seen more people interested in its lore than any other standard set this year.
>have spent over $500 on mtg cards in the last month, have made 7 brand new decks from precons and old singles I salvaged together>still hungry for more, eyeing urza's iron alliance even though it will take a month to ship out because Bant is a cheap tricolor manabase to buy for and I *know* it will hit triple digits to buy it next year>but still don't want to be almost $0 in my bank account leftBros can someone cast a Cleanse or me or something I hate how once I buy cards for this game I can't stopI keep telling myself "Oh it'll be my nice trick or treaty halloweeny present" and then "Fuck what if I need money for an emergency sale at some other online store I like?"
>>93956400Stop being a dumb fuck.
>>93957469Esper* fuck
>>93957466>It has far better lore than bloomburrowIt seriously doesn't and I will bite your dick off like a rabid dog over this.>Scary demon takes over a plane and turns it into his haunted house is coolWhat you're saying is you prefer the CONCEPTAnd that's all this entire fucking set has. It's just a single concept "what if a whole plane was just 1 spooky house lol"You can say you don't like Bloomburrow, but as a world it has no problem making sense because it's just Redfall + kaiju. You can imagine what day to day life is like.The idea that after decades of living on a plane completely dominated by a sadistic demon that anyone would have children and not just fucking kill themselves rather than live in a waking nightmare waiting to be picked off is utterly retarded.
>>93957469>don't like horror movies>don't like the duskmourn aesthetic >still spent $200 on duskmourn cards.
I like duskmourn
>>93957492That was always fine
I like everything about Duskmourn other than the survivors and the "MTG allstars are here too!" shit. The monster half and survivor half are just worlds apart.
>>93957488>don't like horror movies>don't like the duskmourn aesthetic>still building 2 new decks from duskmourn Help
>>93957433This is literally Dwight.
>>93957488I love horror movies, I hate Duskmourn
>>93957523I hate the fucking pointless technology in this set. New Crapenna, Neon Dynasty, now this shit. I'M FUCKING TIRED OF POINTLESS GLOWING TECH
>>93957433Ya know. Ya got a point. People were kind of expecting that. Plus it wouldn't be that hard to design a DBD card as a new one. Like with Trapper.>Legendary Creature - Human Assassin>(some keyword like vigilance or skulk or whatever)>(Effect #1 related to the bear trap card, like finding it in the library and/or graveyard.)>(Effect #2 related to either the bear trap's activation cost or the actual effect of the bear trap.)>(P/T)
>>93957534this but glowing magic shit
>>93957547Oh but that's the best bit, because all the technology is magic! It just looks like a fucking cyberpunk data shard or a 1930s car :)
>>93957569>It just looks like a fucking cyberpunk data shard or a 1930s car :)which is cooler than medieval weapons
>>93957574I bet you're a fucking dinotimmy too.
>>93957578I bet you think a rusty sword from 4000 BC is cooler than an electric deathray
>>93957581Literally yes.
>>93957454Bump on this request. Pic related for inspo
>>93957581Correct.Especially if it was specifically rusty, since that'd kinda overturn human history as we know it.Hell, I think ANY sword that old would rewrite a few dozen textbooks...
>>93957599same energy
>>93957601Was just about to post this lolNo one was in the Iron Age 4000BC.
>>93957604Thank you anon, but I need some effects.The problem I'm having is that faeries aren't aimed towards group hug even slightly, but I don't want to cut them
>>93957619I looked it up and according to my 10 seconds of google-fu, swords wouldn't be invented for another 700 years. So yeah, ANY sword from 4000 BC would revolutionize archaeology.
>>93957454
>>93957648:(
>try to play magic online with mate for free>has to use his e-mail>NAAAHHH THAT'S TOO TIRESOME>exit teamspeak
You know the set is aesthetically off-the-mark when the showcase arts are substantially cheaper than the regular prints.
>>93957623Closest you can get is the new alela and it's not group hug, more like group goad. Sorry man but faeries don't really have that vibe but you can peep something else
>>93957682usually what happens
>>93957679To be fair.Fucking tired of signing up for every little fucking service in the world. And none of those fuckers are secure. Their shitty servers get hacked and then your email is passed around every fucking Indian scam center for the next decade.Fuck that shit, it is tiresome.
>>93957707>10minute mailtard anon
>>93957706Spot checked some cards from Outlaws and Bloomburrow, no it is not.
>>93957726Yeah lemme just keep track of every disposable email I've ever used. And when I'm locked out of my fucking account, or forget my password, or they're transferring to a different owner- and I can't fucking access the email anymore.
>>93957752u do realize that ever software since before hitler can safe passwords? And that even in the rare case it doesn't, keeping a textfile take 5 seconds?I'm genuinely concerned for your health. Are you able to take a potty break on your own? do you need help with like.. wiping?
>>93957766Yeah ignore the situations I just listed that include losing access to your account like it being locked or the service transferring owner.That last one actually happened to me twice, with Minecraft and Black Desert Online. They send you a link to activate your new account...by email.You're fucking dumb, dude. Live with it or don't.
Peeped this in my dusk box. I'm into dumb plays that go for a "hard lock" vibe (i run teferis box also). Is there anything fun could do with this?
>>93957812Probably a lot of shit. He seems fun but he also seems the exact sort of commander people would refuse to play against, because he just makes the game miserable for everyone else. You'd probably just end up archenemy
>>93957784
this shit seems confusing
>>93957829>>93957821>t. Doesnt know what a fetch is and builds decks with mostly tap lands
>>93957847
>>93957851Where is the hubris? That cocky resolve you had a second ago? Fuck off.
>>93957866
>>93957840Bruh it's just just +X/+X where X is the number creatures the same type -1.Because it says "shares at least one creature type with it" you don't have to care about secondary types.Your elf druid, elf wizard, and elf warlock all share the elf type, fulfilling the "at least one creature type" bit
>Civic Tutor>W>Instant>Search your library for a creature card with toughness 2 or less, reveal it, then shuffle and put that card on top.
>>93957932pretty shit.
>>93957946That's why it fits WotC design philosophy for white perfectly
>>93957581Yes, and it's not even close. You'll be lucky if the delicate circuits and plastic in your death ray last even 40 years, let alone 4000.
>>93957932Make it power 2 or less and youre on point for POWERFUL white cards this year
>>93957965I know you're taking the piss, but unironically, Power 2 or less fits better for a white tutor.Also, there's a good deal of degenerate shit you can get with Power 2 or less.
>>93957993Yeah but it's a riff on Recruiter of the Guard.
>>93957932>>93957946that would be an auto include in any creature toolbox / combo deck
>>93958023Maybe if it went to your hand.
>>93955682They'll hit you with this brain bender, you know they will.
>>93958032It's instant speed to top of deck for W. It basically does go to your hand.Better yet, since it only costs W, the mana you hold up for it can easily be used to bluff a path or swords.
>>93958041>Tard forgets his image
>>93955220Return to nature
>go to prerelease event>get my deck>my rare win condition card is bent>all my best cards are in its colors>play the deck>can easily see the card in the deck because I was a retard and didn't get sleaves>feel guilty as fuck about this. I lost most of my games anyways so i guess it doesn't matter
>>93957932Would be an unreal card
>>93958151I wish I got to go to the prerelease. I haven't been to one since War of the Spark. What's the next one? Origins?Also always buy sleeves. You might get some playable expensive stuff.
>>93958171>tfw none of the upcoming sets sound good at all until Lorwyn
The president of WotC played in my lgs' prelease tonight
>>93958247>0-2KWAB
Looking for advice. I don't generally ever make golgari decks. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ERnZEs9po0-AbN6taM9C-Q
>>93958247ANON YOU WENT 0-4!?!?!?!??!!?!?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT HIT RIGHT IN THE DEI
>>93958335meds
>>93958335Yeah kek I'm not ashamed
>>93958247>JenavieveTroon name if I ever heard one.
>>93958404Obsessed
>>93958413You're like a vampire recoiling at a cross
>>93957488>10 verge lands at $5 each at 4 copies eachDid I guess right? Or are you actually going in on a commander? I wanted to rape Nashi but it looks like the design team got to him first so I'm just sticking to singles.
>>93958415>Nooo how can you not like my obsessive shitpostingUnderage
>>93958423Fuck never mind I forgot it's only ally verges in this set that'd only be $100 total for a 4 of playset of each
>>93958321You've got a bunch of cards like cyberman patrol or Nylea that are just generic cards with two types that trigger Rendmaw. He's a five drop. Not all of your setup cards need to be ones that work well with him, and you don't want to include narrow cards like Eidolon of Blossoms on the offchance you play a few enchantments afterwards. Silklash Spider would be a nice way to clear out the birds. I'd cut back on things like star compass, talisman, etc for rampant growth effects and mana dorks, of which you already have plenty. Basically every deck with black that makes tokens should run Victimize, and every deck that makes tokens period should have Ashnod's Altar. Eyeblight's Ending hasn't been worth running since 2012. You'll want a few more pieces of card draw, even basic stuff like Night's Whisper or Diresight would go a long way.Overall the deck seems fine, though it's a little prone to just "do shit and vomit out cardboard until the game is over". Not much of an proactive plan.
>>93958440Thank you for the genuine advice. I'll take them into consideration.
>>93958382Why though? Do you not know how to sealed?
>>93958518Never did it before. I only got back into paper magic bc of friends, last time I did anything liek this was standard fnm 10 years ago
>>93958526No shame man. Sealed sucks dickballs anyway, but you can't really make draft work for a prerelease. What deck did you end up building?
>>93958526Limited can be a fucker, especially an unfamiliar format. Week 1 is basically just people beating each other with raw amounts of generic skill because no one knows what the fuck they're doing.
>>93958545Blue/Green with The Mindskinner and 2 Balustrade Wurm, manifest dread stuff. Was fun. I picked up 2 matches but lost the best of 3 often due to time restraints. Other ones were just off by a turn. Pretty good games overall
>>93955280Sea Monstertimmy is the most chad Timmy.
>>93958560Oh nice, sounds fun. Time limits can suck when playing new formats irl. I've been there.
>>93958560Nice I also had a blue green deck with the mindskinner. and i'm also new to magic and that was my first event too. 2 of my 3 game wins were due to milling out my opponent.
So why is this deck $80?
>>93958896Only good one of the four
>>93957352He's (yet another) magic evil cult leader of survivors-turned-psycho?
>>93958896Only kino deck of the bunch.
>>93958896Obscenely good reprint value, $140 worth to be exact, heavy hitters include-Kenderekt Parasite ($10)-Vial Smasher the Fierce ($8)-Mogis, God of Slaughter (based reprint and the very first non secret lair reprint of him, $6)-Gravern Cairns ($8)-Witch's Clinic ($8)-Sulfurous Springs ($5)Also stuff like Lord of Pain and Spiked Corridor//Torture Pit which are each $5 but could fluctuate due to presale prices so I'm not including themtl:dr opening the precon is literally free money, manabase is insane too
>>93958896Because now there is no MSRP retailers routinely bump the most popular of the 4 up to $80 and drop the least popular one to around $40. If you have a chain retailer in your country that sells Magic, there’s a good chance all the decks are the same price
>>93958896Winter>Deck is poorly designed and based on a shit theme. Commander is mediocreAminatou>enchantress shit with miracle cards that kind of miss the point of miracle half the timeEinstein Nigga Bitch>No one fucking likes morph shitValgavoth>Main villain of the set. Good reprints. Well built deck. People like bad guys more than good guys.
>>93958960I guess I'm the only one excited for zimone lol
>>93958986You're horny, that's different
>>93959086I'm horny but for Mogis so I'm buying the rakdos precon and just making him the face insteadI worship the Minotaur who has ascended above all other Minotaurs...
>>93959111barafags go and stay go
>>93959111>paying 80 dollars for a precon
>>93958950>-Witch's Clinic ($8)I see now why it's 80$. They reprinted the infamous extra turn card.
>>93959086Steve Urkel lookin bitch
>>93958896damn I was gonna pick this up for $40 for a master of pain shell, buying that mf as a single instead
>>93957766You're a gigantic faggot and every poster here wishes you would fuck off
>>93959430where the fuck did you find that precon for 40?
>>93959479Anon is saying he would have bought it at $40 but has reconsidered now that he has found out it is $80. Armed with that knowledge, he has decided to buy the Master of Pain separately.
All the LGS around me started to charge money for playing commander.
>>93959567do they give any prizing out for pod wins?
>upgrade my valvagoth precon>It's pretty good, probably a high 7 but no tutors, no fast mana, no fetches/shocks etc so probably can't compete in a 8 spelltable room>Try it anyway, every 8 room is over in 5-6 turns with someone going infinite, which is way too fast for valgy to accumulate value and pain pieces >Go down to a 7 room>Stomp some retards with no interaction playing decks that hadn't done anything by turn 9, they tell me I'm a tryhard for wiping token decks by casting massacre wurm (which literally came in the precon)Is this why people switch to cedh? Playing vs people who can't deckbuild for shit but complain about you making a good deck is way more annoying than getting your shit kicked in by a higher power deck.
>>93959577You get one Playbooster. No rewards for winning.
Is he a good commander for Doom Foretold turbo?
>>93959628it's wild man, I get told removal isn't casual and how people just build greed piles with no removal, then they get btfo by a card their colors could easily deal with.
>>93959628The pipelineEDH -> cEDH -> Quit
>>93959651The product of the absolute dumpster fire that is WotC.It's basically their way of offloading product they're strongarmed into buying.
>>93959206>he doesn't buy his precons at target
>>93959824big box stores mark up now as well.
I miss the time when you would have to wait for months before next set was released.
>>93959783More like Power level 7 -> 8 -> 9 -> cEDH -> power level 5
>>93959783>>93960059
>>93960095Me cast 2 card finisher, response?
thread is slow. rate my commanders.>Ellivere Enchantment Stax (High Power)>Nelly Goad Slug (Mid Power)>Talion Faeries (Modified Precon)>Optimus Counter Matter (Mid Power)>Lucea Kane X Spells (High Power)
>>93960444gaygaygaybasedok
>>93960444BasedBasedBasedGayOk
>>93957932>green card but worsevery fittin for a W card, I dig it
>>93960095Change the last one to eu highlander or legacy and you got itbeen rocking both lately and both are significantly more interesting as competitive formatsIt also solidified edh as a casual only format for me which has allowed me to just accept not putting pushed shit in every deck and sometimes lose because of it
>>93957352Yeah this art looks retarded and it's part of why I dislike the card.
>>93960730>it only exists in full artI hate this
>>93957466>It has far better lore than bloomburrowDamn the cope still continues
>>93960736Why? I thought that was a good change
>>93957352>Lives in the screens>Somehow projects a giant hand
>>93960444>eliviereif you are going full stax, based, but she`s too fucking ugly, proxy the box art>nellygoad is retarded>talionboring and predictable>optimusartifact in jeskai colors CAN be cool, needs to see your list though>luceashe`s a tyranid girl, if you go for X spells, just go zaxara instead
>>93957404This is some dumb ass lore, he's basically just a horror movie fan who likes watching other people get killed
>>93960756why would that be a good thing?
Outlaws is still the best standard-legal set of the year
>>93960849Full arts tend to be more desirable and the people who purchase pre-cons usually begin upgrading by purchasing a full set version of the commander. I honestly thought this change would be universally enjoyed, why is it that you prefer the normal print?
does judith work with magar's ability? copy stuff always fucks me up one whether it counts or not.
>>93960864Copies aren't cast
>>93960876thats what I thought, its just annoying it says "you may cast" but it doesnt count. thanks chief.
>>93960883>>93960864It is cast because you're creating a copy of the card and then casting it. Copies of spells that are copied on the stack are not cast but that's not what's going on here
>>93960876You’re a fucking retard, throw on a trip like >retardbro>>93960883You’re a bit retarded as well, but at least you read. Yea it works.
>>93960898>>93960894OH ok so I AM retarded, but I'd rather be retarded and have the cards work the way I want them to
>>93960898No u
>>93960909speaking of being retarded I built an entire deck around +1/+1s and -1/-1s synergies on my cards and only found out after that the counters dont stack on a card, they neutralize each other and remove them instead. very sad
>>93960927It’s not exactly intuitive, especially as the negation was a rules change so I’d say that’s fair.
>>93960927This only applies to 1/1 counters, for some reason. It works with any other counter, like +2/+2 counters.
>>93955220Removal has never been a problem for my commander.
>>93960951I was using hapatra with the intent of basically only putting -1 counters on my own stuff, it felt like such a fun idea at the time. >>93960951maybe I could rework the deck with a different color identity but there aren't a lot of consistent ways to add shit like 2/2 or 0/2 counters or some shit like that
>>93960974The fact that the plus and minus counters counteract and eliminate each other actually enables some pretty strong synergies.>t. Hapatra player
>>93960990yeah I'm sure it lets you do some other cool shit, I just didnt have that in mind when I made it. still considering remaking the hapatra deck though so if you've got any cool combos in mind I'd love to know em
>>93957581You reek of Reddit
>>93960864Well, technically no since Magar isn't a legal magic: the gathering card.
>>93960999Look up persist combos, undying combos, and Ivy Lane Denizen combos. Outside of infinite combos, check out Maha, Chatterfang, and Yawgmoth as strong value engines.
>>93961055magar isn't an acorn card, despite the ability.
>>93960858>Full arts tend to be more desirableVaries wildly on the card, many fullart/borderless are just stretched images>people who purchase pre-cons usually begin upgrading by purchasing a full set version of the commanderNo they don't. Average audience buying precons is going to stick with the precon printing >thought this change would be universally enjoyedSure MaroBorderless and extended art cards look less like magic cards, especially since borders communicate what a card is like color, enchantment, artifact, etc
>>93961077>stretched imagesIt's literally extended , not stretched and you can tell that with an easy card comparison >No they don't.Ok, I guess I'll just take you at your word for no reason despite evidence to the contrary.>Sure MaroLol>Borderless and extended art cards look less like magic cardsYeah and that's why they're desirable. Magic cards look terrible
>>93961064Nice headcanon
>>93961111>Quads wasted on gaslighting yourself
>>93961116You got scammed by wotc wanting to make joke cards "legal" to sell packs.
>>93961133And yet they are legal and you are factually wrong
So his copy becomes an artifact when he dies. Why? What does that change?
>>93961108I'm not going to say all of them cause depends on the art used but this is literally stretching the image to fit and you get less art without the border
>>93961185They used to stretch art. Now they extend the art. It's just a point-in-time thing.
>>93961183Too long in the fault caused it to fuck the gold, forming chimeric metal offspring that are neither flesh nor coin. Same thing happened to Scrooge McDuck in the 80s
Which pear medallion art do I get?
>>93961253>PearJokes aside while I like the full arts I actually like the flavor text on them more
>>93961183i fucking hate these mythic vault cards, wotc deserves to explode
>>93961216Ah ok. Mechanically though other than being vulnerable to artifact removal cards does it do anything else.
>>93961377Before the Big Score was condensed from a whole mini-set to a pseudo bonus sheet, it had something of an artifact subtheme going through it. You can see remnants of this in other BIG cards.
>>93961400This card does not deserve its price tag
>>93961423Yeah, most of BIG's prices are due to relative scarcity moreso than actual desirability. A couple are good, though.
Cybersnap I saw your new video. Doing it outside was a good choice. Vengeful Possession is shit card though. Threaten with a rummage stapled on is not good.
>>93961133I know that you're right, but it's still legal. They're in the wrong of making legal stuff in joke sets, but those wouldn't sell anymore in today's world otherwise, and I think that the joke sets always was just a waste of cardboard, mostly.
>>93960444Ellivere stax is what I'm currently playing at cEDH tournaments, it's my favorite of my commander decks. I'd say the trap of ellivere is leaning to heavily into enchantments over hatebears. You really want to be able to put a new body on the board every turn since that equates to having a new role on board as well. The math on the power increase across your board per role is wild.
>>93960038Same bro. I miss blocks and duel decks too. Blocks desperately need to be a thing again, it made the expansion feel relevant.
>>93961423I want Ancient Cornucopia for my dumb Codie deck, but I don't want to shell the cost for that either.
>>93960858Full arts were more desirable when they were player made modificationswhen you cant even get a regular versions its just kinda ugly
>>93959656Did they forget to put "and/ or"?
>>93962040We're living in an era of "it works because it was intended to be that way".Comprehensive rules a shit.
>set mogs phyrexian body horror designscrazy
>Want to make Goblins>Look and build on TCGPlayer, but shipping costs are insane>Look local to build but selection is ass and prices are insaneI'm tired of this shit.
>>93962457Do you have a printer or a kinkos nearby?I may have a solution for your woesYou can proxie out your deck and pick up cards little by little as they become available that way you can play but also be on the hunt for certain cards which if you ask me is at least a third of the fun of mtg
>>93962371This doesn't "mog" anything lmao
>>93962040"Whenever X and whenever Y" is just Magic rules text for two separate triggers.
Thinking about building picrel for casual fun. Looking for two things:>Tips for building around her>Cards that are thematically about woodcuttingI imagine that this deck is fine with you doing things where you occasionally sac lands for advantage, since she's just going to get them back for you. And also that you definitely want to acquire a lot of lands for the ox.
>>93962616mogs you mom's ugly mug for sure
>>93959479I said this earlier, but apparently I need to say it again: if you have a chain retailer in your country, chances are they're selling all the precons at the same price point.Correspondence from Britbongistan attached.
>>93962662So the conditions for the first, second, third times per turn apply and track independently each of the "Whenever X or whenever Y" triggers? Odd.
>>93962865No. The resolution is the same regardless, it just has two separate triggers.
>>93961578I play high powered Ellivere as in missing some of the insane shit such as cradle, ancient tomb, survival of the fittest, lotus etc. I really really want Ocelot Pride. Card is insane in Ellivere.>>93960780optimus prime list is pic related. Ideal line is to play cost reducer in turn 2, counter pay off in turn 3, optimus in turn 4 and start abusing the pay off. I had to make some changes due to complains. Rhystic Study got replaced with Trouble in Pairs, Winter Orb replaced with High Noon and Cyclonic Rift replaced with Aven Interrupter.I've got Pollywog Prodigy in the mail to test it as a replacement for either etched oracle or mindless automaton.
>>93962860Preach it, brother.
>>93962979Why do they word in the condition "this ability" rather than "these abilities" then? And since the resolution goes for both, why not just word the triggers "whenever X or Y" rather than "whenever X and whenever Y"?
>>93963096Because it's one ability with two triggering conditions. There's not multiple abilities.
>>93963136Still doesn't explain why they couldn't word it "Whenever X or Y" rather than "Whenever X and whenever Y".
my beloved
>>93963202I genuinely think it's the sort of thing that doesn't matter in Magic, because it functions with either and or or.
What's some tech for this lad? Not looking for anything CEDH, just something for kitchen table
>>93963448Homeward Path
>>93962860Damn I never thought to check Game for Magic stuff but it seems obvious now that you point it out
>>93963496You haven't owned tokens from a source you control for at least a decade.
>>93963506100% worth it for precons, but pretty much useless for everything else.They do sell everything sliiiiightly cheaper than my LGS so I'll be buying my bundle there for £43 rather than the £48 my LGS charges. But on packs, they're only like 20p cheaper than the LGS so it's not really worth it.They're currently putting Karlov Manor packs on sale at £4, so I might pick up some more Bloomburrow if they get the same price drop. But yeah, otherwise they don't usually have any particularly great deals outside precons being standardised
>>93961377>>93961400It's presumably a lore thing they either didn't elaborate on or intended to hint at upcoming story elements. The vault seems to make artifact duplicates of other things, and IIRC all of the "gnomes" and artifact creatures in LCI were derived from technology made by the same empire that made the vault, so there's probably some connection there.
>>93963448I'd be building it scarecrow tribal just for shits and giggles
>>93963901Even with something like a Gravebreaker Lamia in play I don't see how the underdog makes the cut. 4 mana is steep.
>>93963920My apologies, good sir. I accidentally wandered into your... uh... interesting establishment, while guiding your fellow "leather enjoyers" here.I'll be on my way.
>>93963617Considering there's a literal production line in one of the cards, yeah. Still weird how much they set up the Fomori and then just sort of did nothing with them. Maybe the Space Opera set will go into them.
Are infinites more feelsbad than thoracle or super long combo lines?
>>93964172Those three things are the same thing.
>>93964172Nah, none of those are really feelsbad unless you're playing with someone very new or very bad.
>>93964172It depends how much shit had to go right for it to work. If the answer is "I needed 2 specific cards in my hand" then I will simply not play against that deck again.
>>93964215Dumb.>>93964220Wise.>>93964231Mid.
>>93964172If anyone thinks an infinite is somehow worse than Thoracle+Consultation they are too retarded to ever take seriously on any subject.Super long combo lines is the only one I might have an issue with, and that's only when the person can't recognize their lines and takes forever.
>>93964172Depends on your playgroup and what those people like. I basically don't like to run anything that's super low interaction, as a lot of combos are, or prison decks. I can and have done that plenty of times in the past, but I think it's kinda lame to put people together for a game if your strategy is that other people don't get to play it.
>>93964260Dumb.>>93964246Mid.
do people consistently winning by turn 4 at latest ever get bored of stomping on people not ready for it?
>Dude brings out deck loaded with stax pieces>Refuses to change them, insisting stax pieces are an integral part of keeping greedy decks in-check>Gets angry and leaves when he gets focused out next game, says we're playing emotionally and not rationally
>>93964295>be me>learned the art of the blade- I mean EDH- in a pod with a control tranny>he's constantly playing steal and interrupting your plans>always fill my decks with instants, removal, and ability removal now>control tranny moves out of town earlier this year>I move into an adjacent pod>they're all playing extremely powerful combos>but>none of them play any sort of removal or interaction>always complain about me playing board wipes or neutralizing their key pieces>this one game>my deck engine just doesn't get going>first knock out is turn 3It's so fucking strange to me. They kind of just want to sit there and build huge fields and expect to not be interfered with. It's not even like I'm crushing them or anything either. Their decks are way stronger than mine and I usually lose, but man they will bitch about having to work for it.
>>93964380this pasta reminds me>build deck with lots of counters for the first time in my life>have to counter a winning combo on turn 5>the next player now goes off and wins because nobody else has responsesI hate what this format has become. people are just racing who can jerk themselves off the fastest and others are just watching like cucks. everything goes infinite at a drop of a hat these days and that's the exact thing I tried to escape from when playing edhsure, the combos were always there but what the fuck am I supposed to do against 3 people when god damn precons are designed to do this unmodified with little to no instant interaction
>>93964380>They kind of just want to sit there and build huge fields and expect to not be interfered withMan I've been seeing this shit since my Starcraft days in middle school. People just wanna "play and have fun" and expect you to just roll over when their army comes knocking on your door. Dumb as fuck.
>>93964502The RTS skill curve is kind of steep, and a lot of people who like playing games at their own pace don't know how to approach them. I remember thinking some things along those lines when I was younger and Starcraft was my first game like that, but I know now that if I want to chill and build stuff up that there are tons of non-PVP games that I can do that in.That being said, there's no point in playing a game with people for fun if you're just going to deny them the chance to play. People striving to win is generally fine, but when you're playing directly with people you know, you don't want to just break them so they regret bothering to come play with you.
>>93964502The first level of mastery is playing proactively and having a gameplan. The second layer of mastery is interfering with your opponent's gameplan. The third layer is protecting your gameplan from the opponent's interference. The fourth level is sculpting your gameplan in advance to do all three at once.Most people don't reach level one, let alone surpass it. To them, "interaction" is just being a dick and stopping them from playing the game, rather than BEING the game.
>>93964502There's a pretty significant percentage of commander's playerbase that would be better off playing some engine building board game.This isn't an attack or even a judgement, I think they would enjoy that experience a lot more because it sounds like closer to what they want out of their games.
>>93964172Any wincon you need to untap with is fine even at weenie hut jr.
>>93964351The 102 IQ INTJ experience of playing EDH: playing stax and being unable to cope with the role of "pod supervillain" that they have chosen for themselves. Just once I wish these pasty bitches would lean into it and come in dressed as Seto Kaiba or Snidely Whiplash
>>93964502Yup. That's why whenever I give advice I ask what the gameplan is. If it's "dunno cast some dudes" I tell them to think of specific lines or boardstates they're working on progressing towards.
>>93964585Nta, what you said is the philosophy I feel people playing EDH should adhere to. People are not robots, if your pod is about having fun - adapt, if your pod is about play to win at all costs - adapt. Most anons in this general seem to completely forget that they are playing first of all with people, second - against their decks. Find the balance in your playgroup rather than be far at either end.
>>93964678that would take even a smudge of self awareness. these people think they do genuine good without realizing games take 2 hours longer than they need to, because of them
>>93964678>entp>play stax>generally charming and charismatic about it>no one seems to mindMy favorite is when new players start running removal and teaming up to beat me, only to realize I'm not really left handed, and have a much better deck for when they start becoming good.
>>93964678>lean into it and come in dressed as Seto Kaiba or Snidely WhiplashI feel seen. One of the first things I bring up with a pod is that my goal when playing is to larp as a yu-gi-oh villain.
>>93964810You are my mood-kindred. This is also why I like Archenemy as a format.
>>93964868Oh for fuck sakes now it's the end times. God I hate this gay earth.
>>93964868oh shath
>>93964708>expecting anyone on /tg/ to be capable of behaving like a real human being rather than a soulless automaton
>>93964868I like how retard smash wolverine is I can't wait for them to release a non-UB version so I can suck out loud with it
>>93964868fuugg that shit is habbening
>>93964868>They didn't make Tony GrixisONE JOB.
>>93964868>they blacked selesnyathis will not stand
>>93964868Feels weird they'd make mechanically unique Secret Lair cards for characters who're getting cards in the actual Marvel set, unless these are just 'early looks' at their actual set cards.
>>93964868>iron man is just artifact birthing pod that also makes treasuresI may unironically cash out.
>>93964922my guy I've got bad news for you about what happened 17 years ago
>>93964868Honestly just happy they're using Regenerate instead of Indestructible for the healing factor.
>>93964926The SLD icon alone makes me think these are fake.
>>93964956What do you mean? The more obvious way to determine they're fake would be to find this art existing elsewhere.
>>93964926as if wotc didnt do weirder shit before
>>93964961what would you gain from deliberating faking these for hours?2 seconds le ebin whistleblower 4chan fame?
>>93964955I do wish it had been something akin to Knight of the Holy Nimbus though.
>>93964868>Black Panther>entire premise is "what if black people could into futurism?">no blue
>>93964868>Black Panther is green/white>Border around the name is green/blue>Border around rules text is green/whiteThese are fake or just have horrible quality control.
>>93964961AI art is easy to generate, and I don't want to spend months trawling through literally every single piece of marvel fanart to look for a match, especially when there's something right on the card that says "this is probably fake".
>>93964990Just bad quality control
>>93964990brother this isnt even the worst color coding they've done for a secret lair this year
>>93965018That's a whole different frame, the standard Magic frame (or this borderless variant thereof) is something they use more frequently.
>>93965025they fuck up basic stuff in SLDs all the time too, Circular Logic being printed as a sorcery springs readily to mind
>>93964868Lol that Cap is fucking perfect, honestly. I was wondering how they'd do the throw/return shield trick.
>>93964938>>93964922Please be as racist as possible, reddit is watching and we don't need them coming here.>>93964956>>93964961>>93964971>>93964990>>93964993It would be a commendable effort if fake. Made 4 pretty believable cards, put them in plastic packaging and everything.
>>93965046True. It makes me err more towards it being faked, though. That and Wolverine's damage doubling isn't worded the usual way (but that may well be a wording change).
>>93964926could be the same "showcase" shit they released with the most recent sets
>>93965057I thought of that when it said "put a +1/+1 counter on him" that's not typical right?
>>93964990The guy has other SLD cards as well so I think they're real.
>>93965052the plastic packaging could be AI it could even be
>>93965062That's more normal with UB secret lair stuff, at least.
>>93965052what do you think I say racist shit for any other purpose?
>>93965057The blue hue could be from foiling, where you only get that color at a specific angle which is why it's not replicated down below.>>93965065They're not reprinting the VHS lair, are they? They were sick looking and I'd love a second crack at 'em.
>>93964820>>93964810Bretheren. I haven't tried actually roleplaying or larping as a villain, but my playstyle certainly is. >Play gruul>Imagine myself a saturday night villain who unleashes the beasties in the world on everyone to have a good 'ol time>Mana dorks are my operatives whose presence heralds the imminemt arrival of the beasts>Enchantments are the general atmosphere raising in intensity>Have changed a lot around in my deck over time>After getting victory snatched out from under my hands numerous times, I have become even more villainous and am now resorting to combat tricks and even enlisted the help of demons (Bloodthirster)The reveling will not be denied!
>>93964868>>93965065blessed leak chad putting pinkertons on overtime
>>93965065>that goblin art style They just wont stop with the slop
>>93965072>The blue hue could be from foilingAh, yeah, that's true. It IS a different shade of blue than they usually use for borders (but that could again just be lighting).
>>93965094looking at it more closely its definitely glare from the white foil + reflection, this is some blue dress/gold dress shit going on
>>93965065
I inverted the colors on that pack in the corner that looked like it had white border cards in it. Can anyone make out the company address here? Does it provide any clues?
>>93965109Well, that's my one real strike against them being fake gone. Wolverine's damage doubling being worded the way it is is strange, but I guess there's never really BEEN an ability inherent to a creature like that that just flat doubles ALL damage they deal, has there been?
>>93965094>>93965109I don't think it's glare at all, it doesnt line up with where the light is, none of the cards look foil.>>93965124Doublestrike would feel more appropriate.
>>93965115idk but the trademark says is Raising Cane's
>>93965146I guess they wanted it to be more unique, and it does sell Wolverine being REALLY fucking good at ripping things apart.
>>93964868WHERE ARE THE FINAL FANTASY LEAKS
>>93965110this one also has the blue around the mana value border so I think it's just foiling
>>93965155The Marvel stuff is probably not from the actual Marvel set (or if they are, they're 'early looks' and the actual set's not even sent out yet), so the FF stuff is a ways away.
>>93965124It's typically worded as a replacement effect, but we haven't seen a creature that has it as an inherent ability rather than giving to to a larger set of sources. Probably just the latest in a long line of rewordings to save on word count.
>>93965148Is it a company you know?
>>93965183It's a chicken restaurant.
>>93964868>black panther>not black
>>93965183Very popular southern chicken joint
>>93965179I don't think damage doubling has ever been something a specific creature has had the ability to do, either. It's usually made all things or a subset of things deal double damage, not just itself.
>>93965200Chick-fil-a CLEARED Cane's
>>93965183Its famous for chicken tenders. Ive eaten there multiple times and I would say its meh. I dont get why theyre creditted there though
>>93965190>>93965200>>93965221>>93965226Closing in on where the photographer might have been then.The cards in that corner pack were designed by this company, named on the pack. Seems they design kids menus and mazes and shit. That line up with the restaurant?
>>93965256Are you a Pinkerton?
>>93965279I'm just an autist with a dream. They are partnered with Raising Cane's it seems
Here's the listing for those without kikebook
>>93965299Nowhere near a Raising Cane's, that's odd. I can't imagine whatever kids toy crap they're producing is collectible enough to get it shipped across the country.
>>93965052>reddit is watching and we don't need them coming here.reddit isn't bothered by you saying racist shit
Found an exact match on the pack in the corner. Unfortunately this shit is actually sold on ebay, so it won't offer any information
>Want to fix up my decks>Have to input 17 decks into moxfield to goldfish the changes to each of themGods why didn't I do this as I was building them
>>93965453It's a shitty afternoon but it saves you from spending $5 on a card you already have in a deck
Work on UchbenJank continues. Need to cut 4 cards, or so. Decided for the deck to lean into Amass for board presence and Equipment for the Commander. Strategy is to stay quiet and ignored until casting counters I can start exiling graveyards. Sideboard is stuff I'm still looking for. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/mkuRagNVvEK_q-a9bBNXDQ
>>93965299Apparently Secret Lair's distribution warehouse is in Smyrna. Speculation on Reddit is the guy stole the stuff without realizing some of it was unreleased.
>>93965702Interesting if true, but I'd want any kind of source on that being the case. Just searching "Wizards of the Coast distribution" on Google maps suggests their only distribution warehouse is in Dallas Texas.Maybe it's different for Secret Lair, but idk. The guy has Raising Cane's toys which are manufactured in China and end up at restaurants thousands of miles from where he is. That suggests to me he's not some opportunist working in a distribution center
>>93964990He seems like he'd bw G/W. Unless you're making some ecksdee joke about how he should be blackThe border around the name is g/w. You're seeing the foiling effect.
>>93965702>Jose Manuel>stole themyeah that tracks
Honestly the fact the cards are worded like shit only makes me even more convinced that they're real.Nobody making fakes would go through all the effort of getting the artwork to line up perfectly then introduce a formatting break.
>>93964868>unique cards>secret lairSo basically they're finally going to do the worst thing and make limited edition unique scalper cards. We have yet to have a "unique card" secret lair since the swap to their "order within 0.2 seconds of sale or don't order at all" shit.This will almost solely go to scalpers and if you actually want to build any of these commanders, you'll need to pay 100+ each on tcgplayer
>>93965769There is a Raising Cane's in his own town.https://locations.raisingcanes.com/tn/smyrna
>>93964868Wolverine should be Jund.
>>93965809what do you mean "finally"? they've done release mechanical unique cards via secret lair before. also this could just be a showcase drop of existing cards from the set/deckseither way, its Marvel shit, who cares?
>>93965848>what do you mean "finally"? they've done release mechanical unique cards via secret lair before.Not with the current sales method.
>>93964172Doesn't matter, all of them will ensure you aren't invited back to our table.
>>93947766Someone is trying to sell Marvel Secret Lair cards in Facebook marketplace.
>>93965889i refuse to believe someone could be this retarded
>>93947766>Between Izzet and Selesnya, who wins in the battle for the last unsucked cock?Izzet will build a magic tech cock sucking device that lets it suck cocks from other dimensions
>>93965900They use Facebook so that much should be obvious.
>>93965889Nigga just saved the image from reddit kek
>>93965889
>>93965826Huh, it's not marked on Google maps, but when I go to that address on streetview, you're right.But where is this alleged distribution center?
>>93965987>>93965826No way Jose, surely you ain't dining just a mile away from the warehouse you're stealing from?
>>93965399damn really? I've been wasting my time?
>>93966083It's never a waste of time.Idk what I make of this warehouse theft theory.Apparently Wizards only has 1 distributor in Tennesee and it's kinda far from Smyrna. Not so far that it's impossible, but idkhttps://wpn.wizards.com/en/distributors
>>93966121Oh apparently that's only like half an hour's drive. Looks way further on the map
>>93965889Finally. Surprised it took this damn long to see something from this set. When is it finally happening?
>>93966294Q1 2025 I would assume, if cards are already printed.
>>93964922Bwo...
>>93965863?
>>93966344
>>93966343Checks out. I thouht I remembered one of the roadmaps at the start of this year or end of last year saying it would be the end of 2024 but maybe it got pushed back. Or I could be remembering it wrong or getting it mixed up with Final Fantasy. That it's a secret lair is odd though. Thought we'd get the set first.
>>93966343I don't think these are from the actual set. Whether they're going to be in the set is a separate thing, but these are a Secret Lair and the fact they use gendered pronouns indicates they're unique TO that Secret Lair.
>>93966377That makes sense and explains a few things. So if things go the way other releases have gone then these are going to remain exclusive to the secret lair and whatever the set will have will be something else entirely?
>>93966374The announcement had it set for 2025, alongside Final Fantasy in that same year. Presumably those will both be the two non-Standard full sets for the yerar.
>>93966384Most likely? It's possible they're early previews and will be in the set anyway (but the pronouns thing again feels wrong there), might be a thing they hand out as promos (the guy who posted the image seems to have literally just stolen a bunch of cards from a warehouse or something so no telling how these are gonna be distributed) and might have 'proper printings' later on, etc.
>>93966393So I really did completely misremember it then. Wouldn't be the first time. Thanks anon.
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>>93966363>c2023
