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>>94009579>why is she wearing fetishwear?>oh right, that's just the Nova Cat ceremonial uniform
whats the rules for non-omnis in front line stars? Are they allowed or are they stuck in the solahma units?
>>94009615they're secondline unless logistics are pressed and secondline needs to be frontlinethe answer is simple pragmatism, does it work? Then its ok.clans use omni's to simplify logistic chains, you can't keep as high a tempo with a secondline unit, which makes them less ideal for attacking and maneuvering, but if you don't have enough omnis, you're not going to decide to just not attack, you'll fill in your blanks and make do
>>94009418I don't really think that's true.The Snow Raven Alliance still has the Outworld Alliance managing the civies side of things even if the Clan calls the shots overall, the Scorpion Empire basically clidged together a new caste system built off the feudal systems that already existed in the Deep Periphery nations they conquered, and the Ghostbears are played up as the "nice" clan but it seems like they're always inviting riots and have to almost entirely segregate the clanner populace and the inner sphere populace just to keep things relatively stable. Maybe things improved somewhat in some ways, but I wouldn't say quality of life was massively improved or anything, hell Clan Ghostbear sent the Dominion into a civil war over Alaric Ward, I doubt their inner sphere citizens are very happy at the moment.
>>94009615Before the Jihad, only in very specific cases (like Orion IICs in Clan Wolf because Sasha K drove an Orion).After the Jihad things get less rigid.Also, pre-Jihad they're in second-line units, which aren't the same as solahma. Solahma is the absolute dregs and a lot actually still run Star League Mechs, albeit often Royals or resits with Clantech
>>94009663>and have to almost entirely segregate the clanner populace and the inner sphere populace just to keep things relatively stableAt the least, we know that they've more or less completely imposed the caste system and Eugenics Program on their IS subjects.
>>94009692nice, in a few centuries they'll be healthier, smarter, and stronger than any other inner sphere pops
>>94009663>Maybe things improved somewhat in some ways, but I wouldn't say quality of life was massively improved or anything,It's actually explicity said that both Raven and Scorpion drastically improved quality of life by bringing Clan technologies to industry, agriculture and medicineAlso, Clan's caste system aren't bad as long as it's not Wolves, Falcons or Jags.
>>94009654>>94009678what about for star commanders/colonels and higher rank officers? Off the top of my head I know Brett Andrews pilots a Black Python.Can a higher rank officer just pick a second line if he likes it or would he just try and find an omni to put the second lines loadout on?
>>94009777probably fight a trial for the right to have whatever mech and at that rank it's your shitheap of a command to figure out the logistics and make it workthe sort of thing that some star commanders probably think they want, but then when they're delaying an assault by 2 weeks because their special snowflake mech is still getting its gets guts rearranged while the entire rest of his force is ready to go they start having second thoughts about the reality of it
>>94009777>Can a higher rank officer just pick a second line if he likes it or would he just try and find an omni to put the second lines loadout on?Why not? As long as they can maintain their position over this mechIn operation Icestorm Connor Rood created a new cluster out of abtakha Jade Falcon solahma, led by Jade Falcon Star Colonel and gives him Marauder IIC (since it was more practical to give Falcon their usual heavy mechs rather than waste time to train them Ice Hellion fast attacks)
>>94009777In the Wolves, the Orion IIC is given a gift to high-performing officers as a token of esteem.Aside from that, a front-line Star Colonel can drive whatever he damn well pleases and probably just be considered a little eccentric
>>94009735>Also, Clan's caste system aren't bad as long as it's not Wolves, Falcons or JagsWolves are supposed to have been the most liberal Clan, caste-wise. Or is the assumption that the Crusader Wolves will be assholes?
>>94009948>Or is the assumption that the Crusader Wolves will be assholes?It's not an assumption it's canon fact. They gave zero fucks about their civilians.When Lyrans took them as hostages to ensure Wolves will attack only FWL worlds Wolf's khan and the rest of the warrior caste said "do it faggot" and instead of rescuing them attacked Lyran capital
>>94009712They got rid of it in 314X
>>94009959Damn, that's cold.
>>94009972Well things might change for good. Since Othar now runs Wolf's Empire and he generally cares about civilian casualties as well as warrior (he also desperately needs troops)
>>94009613>fetishwearIsn't it average mechwarrior outfit?
>>94010007>he also desperately needs troops)Are they enlisting civvies yet?
>>94010071For succession wars, yeah. After that, they remembered how to put cooling tubes on your pants and shirt sleeves. Also, the real world timeline had moved on and the old punk-future aesthetic was giving way to a more flight-suits and tech vibe.
>Tex's video premier in 29 hours It's happening.
>>94010128They were training freebirth warriors from their Spheroid subjects, not even Clan civilians, in Redemption Rites
>>94010265>After that, they remembered how to put cooling tubes on your pants and shirt sleeves.From alpha strike lore primer
>>94010296Even the Blood Spirits wouldn't have pulled that shit.
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>94010437I mean we'll never know, they never got the chance.It makes total sense for the Wolves to do that considering they're on the border of the FWL and Lyrans and they have a bunch of veterans of the border conflict to draw on.
>>94010265I like the new tech vibe though.
>>94010573Tomboys in flight suits, my beloved.
Tonight's list, IlClan>4/4 Ostroc 8M>4/5 Centurion D4D>4/5 Icarus II 2S>4/5 Hunchback 6N>2/6 Demolisher Gauss>4/5 Longinius Magnetic x4>4/3 Warrior H10>4/3 Warrior H10>4/4 Achillius Laser x4My Oriente Hussars vs whatever Headshot brings, we are using the objective based quick play scenario set he and another member came up with, it's going to be interesting as most people play Mech only, and as fat as I know no-one has brought infantry to one of these scenarios or tried a snatch and grab with aircav yet.
>>94009735Yeap, both the feudal Castillan/Ummayad and Hansa systems were so shit that the modfiied Clan system the Scorps are using is better for the people. Also, the Scorps have basically "grown out" of the classical clan system by now.
Going to do a quick and dirty game of battletech sunday. My buddy likes to go Lyran, so I'm thinking this FWL lance. Going to risk it all on being able to get in close.
>>94010928Why the H instead of the G?
>>94011023Probably for more range. You also get +2 ML, so you also have a 20p dmg potencial at short range. He also have the AC/20 Centurion, SRM Treb and brawler Orion, so he needs something with a little more medium range i suppose.
>>94010822>Also, the Scorps have basically "grown out" of the classical clan system by now.They didn't.Unlike Bears who basically dissolved every caste except of warriors, Scorps simply adjusted caste system for large population and introduced 2 new castes for better management
>>94011122Sure, but the mobility between castes relaxed a lot. Fuck, Omega is basically half freebirth, and the new Eta Galaxy is "predominately freeborn".
>>94011137>>94011122They even have a khan entirely devoted to running the civvie side of things, the whole warrior ruling caste autism has been relaxed a fair amount
>>94011023Need something that can open up holes before the turn the Mlas and SRMs start firing.
>>94011137>>94011150I mean its not strange, thats sort of always been the Scorp's thing. They have a heavy preponderance towards conserving things, being perhaps the clan most dedicated to not wasting anything.They happily took in raging autists like the Fire Mandrills of Dagda, Ice Hellions - and even normal folk like the remnants of the EDH. They just don't like destroying anything if they can help it, they'd rather preserve it. They're the ultimate collectors.
>>94011137>Fuck, Omega is basically half freebirth,And it was ever since abjuration from Clan Space.>, and the new Eta Galaxy is "predominately freeborn".That's from Shrapnel. And it's mentioned as a mix of old truebourn and freeborn carrying out garrison duties along with Psi Galaxy.
>>94011150>They even have a khan entirely devoted to running the civvie side of things, the whole warrior ruling caste autism has been relaxed a fair amountAre you retarded?ZarKhan is elected by Clan's Council from reKhans (retired Galaxy Commanders)Also, nothing stops CGL, from pulling Dominion Divided 2.0
>your unit name>their motto, slogan, etc.War Pigs"If the cash is there, we do not care."
>>94011211Omega was formed post conquering of Castilian/Umayyid space, the whole point was to included elements of the conquered peoples into the warrior caste.>>94011225The scorpion clan council features representatives from the civilian castes as well, tho fewer than the warrior caste.
>>94011333>The scorpion clan council features representatives from the civilian castes as well,The point still stands. zarKhan is elected from reKhans, who are Galaxy Commanders only.And besides. Clan-funded states shouldn't become "Successor/Periphery states but with omnimech", hybrid systems are still more interesting, and Clan system in terms of optimization and resource management is still more rational for Periphery and Deep Periphery societies
>>94011211RGI #23, pg 4. Star Python. Also Omega was created after they conquered the Castillan/Ummayad. What you call Psi Galaxy is the Grunt Galaxy, and ad-hoc formation that we dont know if it survived the Hanseatic Crusade as a unified unit, or went back to be militia PGC.
>>94011380>RGI #23, pg 4. Star Python.Okay my bad
>>94011430No problem. But all the latest books about the Scorps, even Shrapnel (the story was made by the same guy who wrotte the Hanseatic Crusade and made the modern Scorp Empire) point that the Scrop are going into a hybrid culture, not enterely and pure Clan. Fuck, they even had a divide (Preservers vs Imperials), and the Imperials won. And basically said "fuck you" to Alaric IlKhan bs.
>>94011225>nothing stops CGL, from pulling Dominion Divided 2.0You could say this about the entire setting. CGL always has the power to publish absolutely retarded ideas. The Scorpion Empire isn't special.
>>94011493>But all the latest books about the Scorps,Not so many of them except of Spotlight, small mentions and Shrapnel short stories.Honestly, I think writters still should focus on their Seekers shtick, rather than turning them into another Aurigan Coalition>And basically said "fuck you" to Alaric IlKhan bs.Yeah except the fact so far Alaric didn't heard it (aka wasn't able to struck back tih plot-armor annihilation ray)
>>94011498>You could say this about the entire setting.Cappies, Dracs, Hell's Horses (they are jobbers, but stay united), Ravens, FWL seems fine
>>94011550Didn't that literally happen to the Dracs, they got a "lol Black Dragon" reboot back to the status quo?
Anyone heard if there's new sculpts for the Victor or Hunchback in the works?
>>94011300Please for the love of godPleaseI'm begging youCan you fucking mercniggers come up with ONE(1) original idea. It can be anything. I don't care what it is. Please. Please. I hate mercniggers so much it's fucking unreal. You are all the fucking same. You have no personality. You have no creativity. You are non-person entities. You aren't even animals. You are fucking automatons. Lacking souls completely. You all deserve to be castrated and relagated to back breaking physical labour as slaves until your bodies break. I wish all of you the most severe fortune possible short of killing you, because you deserve to suffer through a life that is totally hostile to you. Fuck you all to hell.
>>94011709Calm down, Takashi.
>>94011709Well what's your original merc idea, mister grumpy gus?
>a single IWM model costs as much as an entire CGL forcepackMetalbros, your response?
>>94011737Using a scalpel to open your scrotum and pulling your bare testicles out, then smashing them infront of you so you can watch me liquify your genetic legacy. That's my fucking merc idea you fucking subhuman scum.
>>94011593....why would they need them?
>>94011766Metal minis taste better.
>>94011766There’s not a single force pack where I want more than two of the mechs, and the catalyst plastics are pretty shitty. I don’t have to worry about a warm summer day ruining my metals.Also, I’ll throw in some seething about poorfags, cause why not.
>>94011772>>94011709This man has clearly lost one too many games to mercenaries.
The scorpions are the only cool clan, change my mind. I kinda of resonate with those autists.
>>94011819I don't play aginst mercenaries. I rape them infront of their families. I ruin their lives.
>>94011530Luckly they are still way way far from the Aurigan shit. As for the books, its the OTP Hanseatic Crusades, couple of UNit Digest, two or three TTS, and a couple of Shrapnel stories, all made by Doc Swift iirc.
>>94011300The other guy is a sperg, but I have to admit this is pretty basic.
>>94011831I'm not going to make an argument for you. You can read the same sourcebooks and novels as me and come to your own conclusions.
>>94011816Would CGL plastics melt on a hot day?
>>94011911Considering what a hair dryer can do to them? Melt is an exaggeration but deform absolutely.
>>94011819Mercs are inherently unbalanced since they don't have to follow the force manual. They can just pick anything they want and claim it's salvage.
>>94011300>named after a heavy metal song>lame rhyming logo>no logo>no lore>no force orgI wish merc players would put a little effort in. It's sad when they put in as much effort as a 12 year old and then parade it around like anybody is supoosed to care.
>>94011969War Pigs is a CAKE song.
>>94011976Which is a cover of the Black Sabbath song.
>>94011850>all made by Doc Swift iirc.Actually. The Moving Forward (about creation of zarKhan where activist Scorpion doesn't bother to carry their ritual blades) is written by Isberner
>>94012016You learn something new every day.
>>94012072How do you go through life hearing the fucking Cake version of War Pigs but not the original version? Do you live in the Northwest?
I went through IWM's website and I have to say most of the sculpts look pretty terrible. Oversized heads, comically large gun barrels, the only sculpt that looked noticeably better than a CGL equivalent was the Thunderbolt TDR-5S. The AWS-8T/R also looked good. The later Riflemans were downright silly, the MAD-9S looks like it was just released from a concentration camp, falconer and penetrator have too much ass, etc.
>>94011926Force Manual? What Force Manual?Ohhh, did you forget this is Battletech, not Warhammer?
>>94012041You right. But as far as i know, the Scorps were given to Doc Swift....at least for now.But its CGL, we should expect they will take the most retarded option ALWAYS.
Anyone get their hands on the Davion Force Manual? Is there anything interesting in there like the Kuritan melee mechs?
>>94011911Five minutes outside in 95 degree weather, and they were soft enough to deform by hand.
>>94011709What faction do you play as then? And what did the mercs do to you?
