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Previous: >>94359988

>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://mtglands.com

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
What is your favorite mana rock?
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What did he mean by this?
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Gay Bolas
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>>94368206
Mana Crypt of course
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>>94368232

Why not Thran Dynamo?
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Help with some cuts please!!!!

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10041772/krond
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>>94368230
Same energy.
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Tokens are cute and if you regularly use them, you should make your own!
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I mean imagine if we played at the same lgs and just never put it together, hah, I mean what are the chances right?
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>>94368280
what if our cards touched while playing mtg haha...
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>>94368168
Always, I like to tinker and play with them and keep cards in my head for potential changes.
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>>94368293
you joke but they already have, my cards, your cards, hehe its so crazy to think about that time
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>>94368229
>he didn't check mv before casting Gary

Yeah I'd fall on my sword too
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Thoughts on my feldon deck?

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/POv4DMe9z0eLSQlPTbeOqg
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>>94368206
Caged Sun for sure
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>wife built a Victor deck
>0 instants or sorceries
>wonders why its losing constantly
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>>94368269
I wholeheartedly agree!
Always cheesed to spot a fellow token enjoyer
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>>94368372
My Jolene deck has 4 Sorceries, 0 instants. the 4 sorceries. Warp World, Over the Top, Primal Surge, and Genesis Wave
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>>94368206
>Tq
Exotic orchard on a rock.


I think the only way I'd play a 3 rock is if it untapped itself at end step
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>>94368206
Aside from the obvious sol ring and talismans/signets that get put into every non green deck, this one fits nicely into decks as it isn't a dead draw late game as it can snag some good abilities
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>>94368405
this one is pretty great for a 3 tho
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>94368303
Do you mind reposting your list for Xyris and Sidar? I assume you're happy with Coram already.
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>>94368476
Sidar
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532477/knightly_eminence
Xyris
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9997908/welcome_to_the_serpentarium
Coram, since I'm not opposed to hearing neat ideas for any of them
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8002157/mortuary_moment
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>>94368394
i like how you have the gay ones but also the antisemetic ones so nobody knows what said youre on
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>>94368526
Gotta keep people on their toes
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What's the best deck with the least amount of words on the cards
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>>94368568
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/LxdvgBZ5QES6AurQir3y6g
It just needs 10 perfect cuts
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>>94368352
Valakut with only 16 mountains is ambitious.
Also where's your Magus of the Wheel?
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>>94368591
Uh... All of your creatures.
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>>94368627
If you use ellipses like this, no one takes you serious, for good reason.
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>>94368657
It's mostly because I'm fucking baffled at what the fuck that list is.
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>>94368617
Between having ruin grinder and all the other sources of straight up card draw I thought I could get away with cutting it, what would you cut for it? Valakut actually does end up triggering like half of the time I get to play it, but yeah maybe I need to cut 4 other lands, go up to 20 mountains.
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>>94368663
The list isn't for the retarded
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>everyone help swordbro
>no one help nameless anon
I will cry every time :(
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>>94368568
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>>94368670
>130 cards
i'm not building your deck for you
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>>94368670
Turns out namefagging works.
I'd do it too but I don't trust your guys help and my lists are public on moxfield anyway
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>>94368664
>what would you cut for it?
Probably Sire of Seven Deaths, with no etb/death trigger it have much synergy with the other parts of the deck as far as I can tell.
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>>94368677
Huh? What does this have to do with my commentary on this general my friend!
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>>94368700
>nameless anon posts his 130 card shitpile and asks for "help making cuts"
>no responses
>why does no one respond to nameless anon :<
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>>94368694
Yeah you’re probably right, I was thinking of adding it in because it’s one of only a couple big creatures that would be ‘worth’ using feldon’s ability on that have lifelink. My meta is pretty creature heavy so I’ve noticed wurmcoil engine is sometimes really useful for helping me outlast people. The sire also has reach to help with the flying creatures I see a lot of the time. But I probably have enough draw and tutors that I could just go for wurmcoil engine directly if I need to.
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>>94368730
>open thread after finishing the last one where 5000 posts are about swordbro
>notice another anon asks for help
>thread continues on the swordbro express
Again, what does your post have to do with my commentary on the general anon?
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>>94368670
>swordbros decks have 0 replies right now
>they almost always get shit on
yeah everyone help swordbro
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>>94368747
how are we on the swordbro express? check >>94368753
the guy wanting to "help" was clearly baiting him to post the lists and start an argument, but no one is arguing.
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>>94368249
god, Selesnya sucks shit
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>>94368416
i like this one too, for mostly the same reason. they both feel like lite versions of the mdfc-lands
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>>94368352
I'd probably chop great furnace out for darksteel citadel or a basic mountain. In my experience the artifact lands can get blown out randomly and darksteel citadel is a little more resistant to hate. You seem to only want to have an extra artifact to sacrifice so it's all the same for your gameplan with less risk. I dig it though, I'm working on something similar.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nhYHyGK0RkWlVLLhB3SG8Q
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>>94368416
Here’s another one to add. 4 mana is expensive but if you copy a creature with some good abilities that don’t require attacking then it’s pretty good
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>>94368394
>>94368526
>>94368560
unfathomably based
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>>94368394
Cringe
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>>94368674
I want to build this but how do I deal with tokens?
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>>94368864
Cringe is dead and i'm still standing.
Take life a little less serious
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>>94368394
based
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>>94368394
I kneel…
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>>94368524
here's my suggestions for all 3

>Sidar
cut The Council of Four, Angel's Trumpet, Earnest Fellowship, Call the Bloodline, Syr Konrad, Urza's Incubator, Order of the Sacred Torch, Stromgald Cabal, and Valor
>Xyris
Twinflame Tyrant, Kyren Negotiations, Needlehead, Artifact Blast, Force of Negation, Force of Vigor, Doubling Season, Enduring Courage, and Spark Double
>Coram
Gitrog Monster, Anje's Ravager, Putrid Imp, and I'd cut Malignus because it scales down throughout the game
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>>94369047
Wow these are some of the worst troll suggestions I've ever seen.
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>>94368206
>TQ
Not my favorite overall, but I love this guy in mono color decks. Dont know that I’d use it elsewhere but the +1 power boost is nice and people tend to overlook it
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>>94369047
Don't even bother trying to fix that damn Sidar deck, half the deck is pet cards he refuses to ever cut. I've seen at least 6 different anons banging their head against a wall trying to salvage that list with more mana rocks and better removal. The guy is too proud or too stupid to play Swords to Plowshares and isn't running a single actual counter spell in esper of all color combos. That should tell you all you need to know about it.
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Unban Mana Crypt
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Double ban Mana Crypt
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>>94369159
landbase looks really good, combo is strong, tutors are good, and i only see like maybe 8-10 pet cards. it's completely salvageble
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>>94369177
Get in
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>>94368996
No thanks. I don't need your 4chan shit outside of 4chan. Stop being a cringelord. I'd be less embarrassed by you showing up with a krystal playmat and making awful jokes.
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>>94369193
Name what you think the pet cards are right now.
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>>94368206
>tq
Liquimetal Torque, my love.
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>>94369246
Copycrook but it's good here
The Council of Four
Valor?
Order of the Sacred Torch
Stromgald Cabal
Call the Bloodline
i dont know if Xerex counts as a "pet card"
Earnest Fellowship
Angel's Trumpet
everything else is on theme or decent
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What's the best way to build pic related? I was thinking reanimator with big eldrazi and other creatures with impactful attack triggers, but is there something better?
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>>94369261
>Enduring Curiosity
>on theme
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>>94369250
Really wish it didn't say nonland. Would love to use voltaic key and friends to untap scorched ruins.
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>>94369250
Liquimetal Torque + Equinox
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Since /ccg/ is still dead I guess I’ll post this here
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>>94369280
>deck is built around combat and hitting players
>card draw for hitting players in combat
>is a reasonably powerful creature in its own right that can return after removal or boardwipes
>>94369289
use liquimetal coating
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>>94369299
At least get some art
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>>94369306
Coating is too niche to imo. Does nothing too often.
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>>94369278
>What's the best way to build thing that screams to build around attack triggers
>I was thinking attack triggers
Yeah nah you nailed it anon, i just hope you use better art for him.
>>94369229
Nah i'll continue having fun, your embarrassment is not my problem. You have the right to refuse games.
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>>94369159
try to convince him to go to 35 lands
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>>94369327
I mean obviously attack triggers is the way, I just thought reanimator made the most sense to abuse the most powerful attack triggers (e.g annihilator).
I was comparing him to chadgar here and thought that the benefit of black for tutoring things to graveyard + reanimate likely outweighs the benefit of green for tutoring creatures from deck with things like natural order and defense of the heart.
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>>94369327
Make sure to print some alien tokens with the reddit alien. Maybe some chicken nuggie dino food tokens?
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>>94369364
wulfgar has a fixed spot in my orfeo trample haste fling deck. it's so fucking fun.
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Thoughts on my Muxus deck?
Relatively new to MTG.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7gucy1lY10eKuWDLj7C3Vw
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>>94368801
Looks like a good list, one thing about humble defector though. I wanted to use it in feldon too, but I looked it up and once it’s given to another player it doesn’t actually need to be sacrificed. That’s because Jaxis and feldon are telling you to sacrifice the creature, the creature doesn’t gain a sacrifice trigger on the card itself so it’s not applicable to another player.
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>>94369159
honestly the more i look at it, the deck seems pretty good to me. what would you suggest removing and for what?
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>>94368524
never ended up using Vault of the Archangel?
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>asking for help here
You could post a cEDH tournament winning deck here and retards would say it is utter garbage.
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>>94369558
but anon, cEDH IS garbage
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>>94369558
do you think swordbro just posts his decks to see what kind of awful takes he gets about them?
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>>94368670
Swordbro is an insufferable tripfag and UB purchaser, anyone who replies to him is likewise tarded (not, retarded, since it only happened once)
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>>94369578
>UB purchaser
same, mechanically unique cards behind UB is the worst thing ever
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>>94369134
Even in a monocolor I don't think I can justify that. A +1/0 anthem is just nothing, and you could get it in any other card type for less than 3 mana with other effects that are more useful.
I'd sooner play Patriar's Seal in most decks because the value of untapping your commander, even if it has no activated ability and you just want it open to block, is way more useful.
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>>94369585
You incentivize them to print more unique cards under UB every time you buy them you absolute sped.
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>>94369539
>Point out how pointless trying to fix this guy's deck is because he doesn't listen and fucks around with his deck without a care in the world every other day anyway
>Uhhh suggestions anon? Please look at his list and do the exact thing you said was pointless?
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>>94369609
it's too late anyway, i can at least have a deck that works
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>>94369578
>NOOOO STOP BUYING UB
You need to get the fuck over it.
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>>94369610
>doesn't listen
didnt he change a ton of cards in there because people suggested them? like adding Raffine, Path to Exile, Containment Construct, etc?
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>>94369624
yeah but he didn't 1:1 take my advice entirely. So that means he didn't listen
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>>94368779
Selesnya doesn't suck, it just doesn't want to play Voltron, it wants to play wide tribal token spam

>>94368249
Cut Krond
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>>94369617
>it's too late anyway, he's already balls deep in my wife, I can at least clean his cock off afterwards
Cuck mentality. You rip that fucker out of your wife and you smack them both around
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>>94369609
If you are going to be anti-UB and refuse to use them then you should quit.
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>>94369634
Anon... are you okay? Do you wanna talk about it?
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>>94369644
I can simply refuse to buy UB, as should anyone who gives a shit about the direction of this game.
If you don't give a shit, and you want the rules to be a backdrop for funkopops, just say it.
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>>94369628
I'm just saying hes more amicable than the other anon is giving him credit for but hes also super autistic and changes his decklists constantly
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>>94369661
>I can simply refuse to build new decks, upgrade decks, or build them in a way that makes sense
why play?

>MUH FUNKOPOPS
Always has been
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>>94369661
>b-but fantasy n mages n elves bro
If magic swapped to scifi tomorrow I'd buy far more product. If every set going forward was space opera, it would be better.
Sorry that your IP is so weak because you just copied Tolkien like every fantasy fucker.
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>>94369610
he changed up his Xyris to have less group hug card advantage enchantments after I suggested it
he removed the worst ones, Anvil of Bogardan is flat out good and Bell and Prosperity happen at users discretion so they're actualyl good in a Xyris deck
personally wouldn't play Rites of Flourishing (at all, ever, in anything) but one enchantment that does other things is not the tragedy that having 8 effects (I think) that devalued Xyris before changes was
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>>94369548
So I still have it on my desk, if anything I run this week on Thursday ends up being kinda feels bad (I've got my eyes on a few cards) I'll probably drop one for the extra land. Sorry for the long wait time, I'm tired as shit so I'm about to go to bed.
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>>94369677
>>I can simply refuse to build new decks, upgrade decks, or build them in a way that makes sense
Here's a hint for you pal, if the UB sets don't sell well enough, they'll stop fucking doing them.
If you and your cuck mentality buy them because "welp, WotC has already won" guess what you'll get more of?
>>94369691
You should be embarrassed of this post.
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>>94369701
Yeah, the group hug free bonus draw cards were super shitty. Howling Mine, Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Dictate of Kruphix gave away too much and were useless and actually negative when Xyris wasn't out.
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>>94369708
>muh FANTASY
Scifi> fantasy
cyberpunk> fantasy
even super heroes>fantasy
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>>94369624
I did suggest him Raffine and some other bullshit I can't remember months ago and he did listen in fairness. But if the list has been posted ad nauseum and I've lost track of how many people have said the same things to him again and again. There's only so much you can say about one deck and he's clearly married to the cards that need to go at this point. Let's start with a really easy one since you're so determined to find out how this dude's deck could possibly be improved, where is Swords to Plowshares? How does the guy have a Tundra maindeck but not Swords?
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>>94369708
>Here's a hint for you pal, if the UB sets don't sell well enough, they'll stop fucking doing them.
You'd need to convince millions of people. Good luck. Convincing 2 retards here means shit unless you truly are a moron who believes UB barely sells above normal shit. The game at this point would just be sunsetted without UB
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>>94369725
Nta but swords is boring, sacred torch and cabal are cool interaction
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I've been reading the thread going "wtf, why all the dimir hate" because of the acronym UB
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>>94369776
Dimir is based
>>94369725
I'd probably cut the Council of Four for Swords but that's a lot of draw and tokens on a huge wall
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>>94369776
Using U for blue was always dumb
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>>94369803
B was taken by Black and L was taken by Land. What should they use instead? E?
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>>94369730
>You'd need to convince millions of people.
I don't, because all the biggest MtG youtubers are saying that they hate this. Millions of people are already convinced, it's actually you being contrarian here.
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>>94369809
Black should have just been purple
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>>94369795
>Dimir is based
If simic didn't exist, dimir would be the tranny color.
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>>94369756
Did not say they weren't. He also has a cooler removal option than both of them with Haakon but isn't playing it. Pic related as a hint.
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>>94369850
Crib swap is already in
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>>94369825
what in the fuck are you on about
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>>94369825
everybody knows gruul is the tranny color
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>>94369850
Isnt that just a -3 so it's as bad as bolt?
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>>94369874
Trannies love control decks for some reason. Fundamentally, simic lets you play more cards because of the insane ramp, so it takes the top spot. Azorius isn't very viable, especially in Commander. So dimir is the secondary tranny color pair.

If you don't see it, your pineal gland may be calcified
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>>94369893
based tranny obsessed schizo. i wish you well on your journey, and i'll see you later when you're jerking it to them on /gif/
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>>94369893
This is very untrue anon you don't understand trannies
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post you're commander
post it's theme song
https://youtu.be/6Zbi0XmGtMw?si=0XdtTfh_1A6eJ5gw
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>>94369825
Azorius is the guild of right wing crossdressers with TDS (anon I'm replying to is here, as are the majority of trans obsessed incels)
Dimir is the guild of boymoders, kleptomaniacs and drug dealer trannies, often all three
Simic is the guild of transhumanists and the REAL monsterfuckers
Selesnya is the guild of tenderqueers who seem nice until they're offended, then become unbearable cunts
Boros is the guild of transmasc dudebros, honestly the chillest, even if you preferred them as tomboys, also the guild of barracks bunny "twinks"
Izzet is the guild of dragon dildo riders, do NOT talk to them about monster hunter
Rakdos is the guild for antifa troons, do not interract
Gruul is the guild of diaperfur troons, do not interract
Golgari is the guild of doomer trannies who believe they will never ever make it and that the right wing is going to put them in death camps, generally sweethearts

>>94369878
it's the guild of the three worst kinds of trannies, sure, but it's not the most common kind of tranny
Simic trannies are the most common ones you'll find at an LGS, they're actually chill because they simply will not talk to you about their fetishes outside of the occasional "hot" in passing that slips out when you mention something off-hand innocently that only someone truly strange would have a fetish for
Dimir trannies are the most common in general, but only play the game at an LGS when they're living with parents and either get a fat allowance or NEETbux, the drug dealing ones play the game too, just not at the LGS
Golgari trannies would be the most common you'd find at an LGS if they had the money to play the game and they weren't too depressed to leave the house
Gruul trannies aren't super common, really, but you're going to remember every single interaction with one you've had, they are too autistic to understand shame and often reek

a lot of tranny MTG players only play it at home with their friends/polycule
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>>94370138
oh I forgot Orzhov
yeah Orzhov trannies kill themselves in highschool if the law doesn't allow them to transition or they just get bullied too much
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>>94370115
my commander theme song isn't my deck theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkFMJ4-ai1I

commander is Xyris and Xyris' theme song would probably be alestorm dreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgkdmmvtVg
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>>94369812
>because all the biggest MtG youtubers are saying that they hate this
The unfortunate reality is that, because talking about and/or playing MtG is their job, they’re still going to gobble up a bunch of UB sloppy diarrhea even if they bitch and moan about it the entire time

Do I believe the Professor when he says 50% of all sets going forward being random UB tie ins is going to only hurt MtG in the long run? Yes. Do I fully expect him to do multiple videos about said UB sets with gritted teeth the entire time? Also yes
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Has anyone builed Zilortha, Strength Incarnate ??
i wanna go full retard unga bunga and need to know where to start
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>>94370181
These are Etsy proxy quality
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>>94369825
Obsessed retard
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>>94370035
No one here does. That's the point.
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>>94370334
I do, and the other trannies that post here do too
did you think cis hands typed these posts >>94370138 >>94370159
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>be me
>play in a pod that is all trannies aside from me
>it's always fun, they never have flip outs over random shit. Everyone knows how to play well
>go to a different pod for once
>furry cringelord who unironically says "THEY MADE A SEQUEL?!" if you use the word "too"
>egotistical guy who dumps all his cash in the game and just behaves like a dick, and also never shuts up but then gets shocked when he missed 15 chances to respond
>guy who isn't sure what a trading card is and has never so much as read the rule book

I'll stick to my trannies
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>>94370346
Yes.
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>>94370299
yeah, got any request?
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>>94368526
You've never heard of a chaser before?
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>>94368206
>What is your favorite mana rock?
I'm starting to like the mana rocks that come with wacky bonus abilities
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>>94368206
>What is your favorite mana rock?
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>>94370350
what guilds do you have in your pod >>94370138
I've got one dimir, one golgari, one boros transmasc (early transition), one boros barracks bunny egg (the two boros players are dating and skinwalk each other) and we used to have two selesnya's (with golgari and rakdos partners who don't play MTG) but the rakdos girl spread rumors about me so they don't talk to us anymore

almost none of them play the guilds I'd associate with them, but I was thinking of them when I made that post
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>>94370401
They mainly play tricolor. Or have a specific theme of deck they like, regardless of color. I'd say red, enchantress of any color, and UB are the decks here. The UB one just plays it because they can't afford another deck. They have also done mono red though.

In that other pod I went to it was
>The vehicle rat chick from Neo Kamigawa. With the furry art
>Ezio 5 color assassins
>That chick from commander legends that makes spirits. I don't feel like looking up the name
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>>94370385
>only shows image in black and white
>have to pay extra for color TV
>after 7 days the spirit arrives for a late game threat
Duskmourn has a lot stuff in it that I’m not a huge fan of, but I do really like this card. Good flavor and actually useful
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>>94370417
I meant by personality traits
I got the autism where I love to recognize, categorize and sort by patterns

mine share a bloomburrow commander display and swap between them, only the dimir girl and the golgari girl got into the game enough to start deckbuilding instead of just playing precons as a social thing
the golgari girl cant afford cards
the dimir girl is on the fence about what to build but esper control would be her go-to if she had unlimited money

I am the oldest person in the pod, they're all fresh faced college students
I worry about the dimir girl's crush on me, the age gap is fucked up but loneliness is wearing me down
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>>94370462
>the golgari girl cant afford cards
>>94370462
>the dimir girl is on the fence about what to build but esper control would be her go-to if she had unlimited money
How fucking poor are these people if they can afford precons?
All of my decks come in at $80-$100. If you make small cutbacks every day for a week or two suddenly you can stretch from a $40-$50 precon to $100 in singles.
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I got a question for anyone rules savvy. This caused quite an argument at my usual pod today.

If Player A has protection from everything (like with The One Ring) and Player B attacks Player A with their commander anyways, does this deal commander damage, despite not dealing normal combat damage?
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>>94370572
you probably don't really pay much attention to the game then
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>>94370604
>Ghostbusters
>Transformers
>Jurassic Park
>MLP
>Marvel
All Hasbro brands, all have UBs or SLs
How farfetched are Barbie, Power Rangers and Furby? Especially if we're getting fucking SpongeBob.

They also have GI Joe, Minecraft, Fortnite, and Overwatch. Expect to see them in future.
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>>94370625
>How far fetched are these things
Absurdly so. You are brainwashed by a garbage stickman comic
>Barbie
Zero crossover potential
>Furby
Dead toy brand worth less than even MTG is
>Power Rangers
This is possible because it is actually a long running franchise people know.

MLP is a fucking charity thing. Don't toss fucking joke charity cards in your argument

The only retarded one you listed there is Spongebob. Which is a hundred times more popular than Furby.
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>>94370644
>>Barbie
Highly successful movie, toy literally designed to adapt to anything from mermaid to astronaut.
>>Furby
Exactly the same millennial nostalgia garbage as Ghostbusters and Transformers

You're not thinking like a corpo
>MLP is a fucking charity thing. Don't toss fucking joke charity cards in your argument
And what? It's a Hasbro IP. Charity might make it more palatable to you, but it's the exact same breed as UB

>The only retarded one you listed there is Spongebob.
Did you mean "non-retarded" or something? Because you know there literally is a Spongebob Secret Lair for next year right?
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>>94370572
wotc caters to their clients. ub sell.
what was the last product you bought?
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>>94370654
Counterfits from a Chinese guy who takes 7 months to send them
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>>94370654
I drafted Duskmourn like for a few weeks. Before that, I might have bought the Omo pre-con, but I was also drafting Bloomburrow at the same time, so one or the other.
I don't buy UB slop which is what you're really asking. No exaggeration, I own exactly 1 UB card and it was a LotR land for an Orzhov deck that I couldn't find good lands for. Replaced it as soon as I could.
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>>94370676
This will always be the most autistic shit to me and I don't really consider you a player of the game if you don't bother optimizing your decks at all.
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>>94370572
>magic Junior
how is this a bad idea
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>>94370681
>I must paypig!
Imagine being this fuckin guy.
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>>94370682
No clue. If "XD ALL THE PLANESWALKERS ARE HECKIN ANTHRO FURRIES JUST LIKE YOUR FURSONA" is ok then so is "EVERYONE IS NOW A KID AND IS CUTE LOL"
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>>94370681
Optimizing is a word that here means "being a massive FOMO faggot
A Series of Unfortunate Events UB when?

I can't think of a single fucking UB card that is a must-have in any fucking deck. Unless you're just splashing The One Ring into everything. All the staples to date are in normal Magic, and even where a UB card is good, you lose nothing by just running a substitute, it seriously won't make or break a game.
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>>94370694
Yes, you must build decks, modify them, etc. That is a major aspect of the game. If you do not build decks or ever modify them and play suboptimal decks, what is the point? Would you actually try making a historic deck with 0 Doctor Who or AC cards? Because you WILL have an inferior garbage deck missing so many cards. So basically you cannot build an entire archetype supported by numerous commanders, all due to your autism. This is also true for suspend now, too. You flat out cannot play a suspend deck due to your autism.

>>94370702
Time travel cards are a must have in suspend decks. Tenth doctor is a must have for suspend. And AC has so many necessary historic cards that I don't see the point listing them all.
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>>94370709
>Time travel cards are a must have in suspend decks. Tenth doctor is a must have for suspend.
I have been interested in suspend and not played it for exactly this reason. They will Time Spiral again one day. I can wait.
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>>94370694
You clearly want a pat on the back and to be called le based. You're just an autist who needs to quit. The gatekeeping is too strong for you, traveler.
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>>94370722
>You're just an autist who needs to quit
You say this every time someone mocks you for buying UB slop. Massive FOMO faggot, as already stated.
Mongoloids like you should not have financial independence.
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I play entirely UB decks just to trigger anti-UB autists.
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>>94370730
If by "trigger" you mean "never get a game with"
Sorry bud I'm not playing your wacky fallout dog voltron, you can go jerk it to e6 in the corner while the rest of us play Magic
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>>94370462
Age gaps are a meme.
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>>94370591
buying singles is hard for new players
when I say "the dimir girl would build esper control if she had unlimited money" I mean "she wants to buy every money card for esper control"
she has a mcjob and is building budget decks around that income
the golgari girl is flat out not doing okay
and again, the boros couple are just there to be social

also I agree and disagree with your pic in equal measure
Azorius is 100% spot on, chastity for sure, or some kind of shame play, cucks, sissies, crossdressers, the works
Orzhov, bondage and master/slave relationships, yup
Dimir, humiliation, kinda, you'd also get gimps, leather-pups and furries who just want to be someone else
Izzet is where I hard disagree, Izzet is for the contraption owners, the guys who build cages into their floors and the girls who own 30 toys but aren't size-queens specifically
Rakdos is sadism and masochism, not tattoos, though getting tattoos because they like the pain is Rakdos
Golgari is gross fetishes broadly and feet are not just the tip of the iceberg but also the main fetish you'll find in other guilds because foot worship has more to it than just wanting to fuck feet
Boros are muscles, sweaty smelly sex and also bears and gainers (but not feeders, feeders are selesnya) Nikocado is a boros ogre, despite all evidence that would lead you to believe he is golgari
Gruul, yeah. Gruul are furries, always have been
Selesnya is also mommy/daddy dom
Simic is monsterfuckers, agreed
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>>94369455

I would throw in a Rogue's Passage, and maybe an Ebony Fly instead of the signet, you don't need the color fixing

Price of Progress or Sunspine Lynx if noone uses basics

Chandra's Ignition effects could finish if Muxus survives combat buffed

Valakut Exploration or some impulse draw if you are running dry

I'm personally a fan of Disrupt Decorum
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>>94370735
Ok? Why'd you ask to join my 3 man pod then? You think I came to yours? lmao. You probably should bring your own pod if you are going to flip out when the rando LGS pod busts out their Doctor deck.
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>>94370740
If you had to estimate, how many times do you think you have debated the age of consent?
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>>94370750
You seem to be mistaking age gap and age of consent. I don't feel like a 50 hour debate on that. Consider thinking more.
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>you have le autism if you don't paypig
Jesus wept.
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>>94370740
power imbalances aren't

35 for 25 is almost always fine
31 for 21 is almost always a problem

>>94370755
you have autism if you post on /tg/
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>>94370755
>printing out a card and putting it infront of a basic is paypigging
lol
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>>94370138
Now do the three color trannies!
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>>94370759
Weird how that does not apply to anyone rich or famous. No one is kicking Leo Decpario off jobs because he won't date someone older than like 20. It's not illegal so there is literally nothing ANYONE AT ALL can do about it.
>they'll think things
Who in the fucking fuck cares?
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>>94370138
So the golgari ones are right?
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>>94370777
you know thinking that means you're probably one of the three doomer trannies, right?
Orzhov admits they're a tranny but it just drives them to kill themselves (the ones who survive past 21 transition over to Golgari or Azorius)
Golgari knows they're trans but life is too hard and they are suffering
Azorius pretends they don't feel dysphoria but jerks off to tranny porn and sissy hypno

which one are you?

>>94370771
there are very real reasons it's bad to have a strong power imbalance in a relationship but you've clearly never experienced love to understand why, so it's pointless trying to explain the importance of a relationship of equals
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>>94370759
As a 32 year old fucking a 22 year old, as long as they're an established adult it's not that big of a deal.
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>>94370798
He's probably under-selling her age to save face on the internet.
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>>94370681
>if you don’t guzzle down the UB shit straight from WotC’s prolapsed anus you have autism
whatever helps you sleep at night
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>>94370572
According to ~rumours~ and supposed insiders the final mystery UB set for 2025 is going to be a song of ice and fire
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>>94370826
You mean "according to a fat creep who never learned to smile"?
Professor is calling GoT, he's full of shit.
Schizo anon predicting WoW makes way more sense. It's some special anniversary for WoW next year which is a reason to delay the announcement. Hasbro already have IP rights to Overwatch, another Blizzard IP. Apparently the official WoW dice sets were price matched to WotC dice too which is odd.
There would be no reason to delay announcing GoT unless Winds of Winter was finally dropping, and we all fucking know that isn't going to happen
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>>94370841
>You mean "according to a fat creep who never learned to smile"?
No one was quoting you?
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>>94370843
Are you having an aneurism?
>According to ~rumours~ and supposed insiders
>You mean "according to a fat creep who never learned to smile"?
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>>94370848
I am calling you a fat creep who doesn't know how to smile.
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>>94370841
I think GoT is as likely as anything, and is one of the UBs that would actually fit MTG nicely. WoW also works on that level. If its true it means we can clash FFXIV vs WoW in MTG, who would have thought.
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>>94370853
GOT without gore is pointless. You can't put Terrifier tier gore on card art.
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>>94370853
>I think GoT is as likely as anything, and is one of the UBs that would actually fit MTG nicely.
GoT is explicitly less likely because there is no explanation for why the announcement would be delayed. They know what the set is, they think it's important enough to delay Lorwyn, they have announced that it will be delaying Lorwyn but now what it is.

That is odd if its just le fantasy flop from nearly 5 years ago.
If it's for one of the biggest RPGs in the world which also happens to be having an anniversary, not only does that justify delaying the announcement until next year, it also explains why it has to displace Lorwyn.

I'm not saying there will never be a GoT, because there probably will, but it isn't the mystery UB.
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>>94370861
What? GoT is not really famous for its gore. Where did you ever get that from? Are you getting gore and incest mixed up? I doubt we'll get a Cathartic Reunion reprint with Jamie and Cersei but it would still be a good set.
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>>94370873
He's saying WotC can't print the gore, are you fucking illiterate?
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>>94370872
>WoW
Hasbro is a direct competitor to hearthstone.
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>>94370877
And? Marvel has a card game. I believe it has a physical and digital one.
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>>94370873
I got that from the various extremely gory scenes that would get you an NC-17 rating if you put it in a movie 20 years ago. If you don't consider shit like ripping a guys jaw and throat out to be very gory, then I don't know what to tell you. Literally can't even do that in some modern R rated films lol. Every notable scene I have ever seen of GOT has gore. Same with walking dead.
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>>94370763
3 colour identities are less personal identity and more faction/group identities so I'm not defining individuals but trans groups by them
Bant are hierarchal polycules with power imbalances, there is one person who owns the house and they decide the chore rota
Espers are the 40 year old crossdresser anti-trans republican senatorial voting bloc
Grixis are antifa tranny groups who travel cross-country to riot
Jund are furry convention orgy organizers
Naya are slutty open relationships where everyone is fucking everyone else (but not committed) and there's constant drama
Abzan are polycules where everyone is only there for a single member and are politicking to oust everyone else and monopolize them
Jeskai are "asexual" cuddle pile polycules consisting entirely of pent up bottoms who eventually cheat on each other (but dont break up for some reason wtf)
Sultai are home-wrecker BPDemons who enter open relationships only to break them up and then lose interest the moment they get what they "wanted"
Mardu are discord trannies who organize online raids of anyone who disagrees with them
Temur are nonspecific orgy-going hedonists and sex toy enthusiasts, the "safe" kind of person to invite into your bedroom as a third
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>>94370882
>Marvel has a card game.
It does? I recall it having some online thing that can barely be called a traditional card game. Not seen any marvel shit at my LGS.

Hearthstone is bigger than magic. WOTC needs them, not the other way around.
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>>94370888
Cringe post
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>>94370876
Are YOU illiterate? He's saying GoT without gore is pointless, which makes no sense. I'm not denying that Wizards won't print gore, i'm questioning why he thinks it would be necessary in the first place.

>>94370887
Its not that it doesn't have gore, it certainly does, but it's far from being the main appeal of the series. You're not losing GoT's identity by not having graphic depictions of gore in the art.
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>>94370897
esper/azorius repper detected
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>>94370903
Not my fault you ooze weapons grade cringe.
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>>94370888
>BPD
>Sultai
I don't think you know much about that disorder desu. It's red as fuck.
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DRAGON BALL UB
WHEN
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>>94370914
yeah I went based on faction lore more than colour identity and I really wanted to swap Sultai and Temur for that reason but the faction lore fit better this way around
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>>94370894
Marvel Champions. They call it a "living card game" whatever the fuck that means, but there you go.

>Hearthstone is bigger than magic. WOTC needs them, not the other way around.
And? Final Fantasy is probably bigger than magic. How many players does FF14 have?
You gotta wake up to the fact that crossovers are just about money both ways. Say you're right and Hearthstone does better than MtG, they're still going to get a fat cut of the pie from whatever sales MtG makes on a WoW set. Why not do it? It's not like all their players are going to quit for Arena the same day or some shit.

IP's are just whores to be thrown in a room with whoever has the cash.
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>>94370597
Just want to see if anyone has an answer for this.
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>>94370920
>>94370914
actually yeah swap Mardu and Sultai
Mardu are home-wrecker BPDemons, Sultai are discord raid organizers
that fits better
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>>94370462
How much of an age gap?
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>>94370597
No, it does not
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>>94370929
>>94370597
How hard is it to read a wiki?
>702.16j “Protection from everything” is a variant of the protection ability. A permanent or player with protection from everything has protection from each object regardless of that object’s characteristic values. Such a permanent or player can’t be targeted by spells or abilities and can’t be enchanted by Auras. Such a permanent can’t be equipped by Equipment, fortified by Fortifications, or blocked by creatures. All damage that would be dealt to such a permanent or player is prevented.
ALL damage is prevented. How the fuck would commander damage somehow be an exception? An attack deals damage or it doesn't, there isn't some magical split between "actual damage" and "commander" damage or some shit.
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Queer.
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>>94370935
a decade, but the age gap isnt the problem, her age is
she has a job and isn't socially isolated but has never lived on her own and doesn't drive so I wouldn't consider her independent enough for it to be okay

I'll probably end up dating her if she gets kicked out of home after coming out and needs a place to stay and everything is waaaaay worse with the power imbalance, anyway, but for now that's just a grim vision of the future and I'm not going to pursue a relationship on my own

>>94370807
ya got me, it's 19 and 29
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>>94368280
Ive actually wondered this before. Next time im at a LGS Il call the table a bunch of faggots and gauge the reaction. Sounds like a foolproof plan
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>>94370935
He's consistently underselling her age because he has nowhere else to vent about his life but has the social awareness to understand that if he's honest about her age he will get shit on. So instead he's aged her up a bit and hammered home how much he DEFINITELY WOULDN'T jerk off to her because he's such a good guy, because he's hoping to be congratulated for his "self-control"
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>>94370953
>hahaha no I wont take advantage of them unless they become more vulnerable and live with me.
Jesus.
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You're a faggot retard. You know who you are.
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>>94370973
This, but the other guy
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>>94370953
>I'll probably end up dating her if she gets kicked out of home after coming out
Oh shit. He's been >she'ing this whole time and its a fucking man. Not even just a troon, but one that isn't even "out" to it's parents so presumably just a fucking dude

Absolutely simic behavior
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>>94370965
I'm not hoping to get congratulated for my self control at all, I'm trying to vent about needing to use the self control at all
she's really fucking cute and really blatantly into me

getting jailbaited isn't fun

>>94370969
no, at the point where she has nowhere else to stay I'm already doing the good thing by default and letting her move in, like I would for any of my friends if they got kicked out of home after coming out of the closet, and then the second I'm living under the same roof as someone with that kind of sexual tension of course we're going to end up fucking
hell we'll probably end up fucking the first time we're both drunk together and there's a bed it's socially acceptable to fuck in nearby, but she's under 21
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>>94370953
Money and intelligence is a far bigger power balance than age, when you get into adulthood. I'd be more concerned with how much more money you make in comparison
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>>94370983
>she
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>>94370947
Dude, calm down.

Thanks for the ruling, though, I'll send it to my friend who was trying to claim there was a difference between the two.

I tried to argue this to him, but being able to show him the actual ruling will hopefully get him to stop insisting on being wrong.
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>>94370983
>hahaha no I wont take advantage of them unless they become emotionally vulnerable and isolated and possibly intoxicated.
Jesus. I hope your just shitposting because this is top tier sociopath shit.
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I dated a 19 yo when I was 39 and shit was cash. Looking back on it, it was a very uncool decision on my behalf because her IQ was probably around 80. I feel foolish as well but she had a crush on me for so long and kept hitting on me after she turned 18 that I couldn't resist. Very pretty too. I was smitten and so was she but she could not control her jealousy issues so I dumped her ass. Stop feeling bad
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>>94370983
like as bad as it is how many young trans women end up stuck dependent on someone in their early 20s in a bad power disparity relationship it's waaaaay worse when they end up homeless
the only thing to make me go "yeah, I'm virtuous and good, I'm better than the clearly bad thing I'm doing" is that I wouldn't kick her out if we broke up and if I had to kick her out because she was that bad of a housemate I'd still make sure she had somewhere else to go first or fuck, pay fucking alimony and find her somewhere else to rent like a cuck

>>94370984
I get NEETbux but I also inherited my house
won the tranny lottery
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Recommend me a commander that represents this anons relationship issues
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>>94370994
people who aren't incels who get drunk around people they're attracted to have sex with them, anon

you might not understand this because you don't get invited to any parties, but this is a normal part of adulthood
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>>94370998
Buddy you literally just want to fuck a twink. There is no "she" about a tranny that isn't even out, aside from whether it can ever be a she
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>>94371006
>tranny chaser trying to act like they know healthy human interactions
Kek.
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I have a friend that plays Tivit. When we have a 3 pod (we play during our lunchbreak at work, so we don't always have 4 people) he wants us to pretend that there is a 4th player who always votes Clue so he can get the full 5 artifacts per turn.

This annoys me to no end, and I seem to be the only person who we play with who is against it. Everyone else just lets him so we can get on with the game instead of arguing for ten minutes about it. He insists that he should be allowed to do this because he's trying to get reps in for tournaments, where there will always be a 4 pod.
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>>94371016
do you know one (1) relationship?
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>>94371002
Kek
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>>94371006
>of age 18-25
ftfy. Most "adults" don't do parties. Who the fuck can party when they got work at 6 am at the office?
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>>94371017
get rule zeroed, nerd
anyway, demand it be coinflipped
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>>94371007
you tell em champ. I am sure he'll stop saying she because some 120 pound dude online (probably non-american) said so.
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>>94370994
we're both girls so we can't be held accountable for our judgement while intoxicated and it's not rape, duh
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>>94371030
Meh, you're right. I should stop being so butthurt about it.
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>>94371036
>white knighting a tranny
Kek.
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>>94371029
could not be me
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>>94371047
>white knighting 4chan
cringe
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>>94371006
>people who aren't incels who get drunk around people they're attracted to have sex with them, anon
Sounds like cope to me. Emotionally stable people don't like to waste money and have sex with strangers as a hobby.
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>>94371122
why did you assume you were emotionally stable and knew anything about what emotionally stable people do?
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>>94370393
Why not Thran dyanmo?
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>>94371007
she's pretty in a skirt, so she's a girl
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>>94371138
4 mana is too much without utility
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>>94371165
>4 mana is too much without utility

I dont get it?
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>>94371182
"4 mana" is the cost of Thran Dynamo
The lack of "utility" is a reference to the fact that Thran Dynamo lacks utility.

What is there to get? He's saying it needs another effect stapled on to be worth running.
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>>94371198
>Thran Dynamo lacks utility.

3 colorless mana is extremely versatile though. What cant you do wiht 3 mana on demand?
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>>94371212
Recoup the 4 mana you spent to cast it.
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>>94371212
What is this?!
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>>94370572
PR iis kinda massive and to properly represent all series in that franchise they would probably need multiple sets. Tho honestly I have kinda soft spot for post-In Space OG Saban and Disney eras and gladly would get Lothor as commander.

Also MtG kids would be probably like Portal sets or Duel Masters - simplified, more dynamic version of MtG. Reduce rule complexion, increase timmyness of cards.
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>>94371279
>Tho honestly I have kinda soft spot for
>gladly would get Lothor as commander.
Say no to paypiggying. Do not reward WotC for dangling familiar keys in front of you.
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>>94371297
Learn 2 proxy
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>>94371212
>Recoup the 4 mana you spent to cast it.

Easy, cast a spell tha requires more than 2 colorless mana.
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>>94371315
Or cast pic related, target Sol Ring and get 4 mana for 4 mana.
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>>94371297
I would not pay WoTC, lmao. I have no money. Either what >>94371300 says or hunt for very badly damaged copy on second-hand market, whatever will be cheaper.
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>>94369278

Ima save you some trouble

Not a good Commander to Build

You essentially build your entire deck around creatures/enchantments/artifacts that have "Whenever X attacks..."effects, so it's imperative that your commander is always out to capitalize on these effects.

The problem is that your opponents will be quick to pick that up, remove your commander, and your entire deck is neutered while you struggle to bring him back out again. Coupled with the fact that you're an attack trigger deck, its just not a viable much less, a fun commander to play.
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>>94371341
It is super easy to protect a commander forever in Mardu. Black and white also have revival spells, including cheap ones for low power/mana cost creatures
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Is Coven too awkward as a mechanic for Commander?
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>>94369850
HOLY SHIT I JUST GOT IT
FACELESS INVERSION
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>>94371323

Why not copay Thran Dyano for 6 mana?
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>>94371390
Because that would mean spending 7 mana.
Anon do you seriously not get that Sol Ring is good because it's net positive? The 2 mana rocks make up for being net -1 by tapping for colored mana.
Net -1 for colorless is garbo.
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uuhhh... sooo... When do EU stores plans to finally purchases few boxes of jumpstart foundations? Bcuz having every barely playable uncos/rares from the set pricetagged at 50€ is kinda retarded & annoying. thx
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Best manarock coming through
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>>94369047
>>94369261
>>94369795
>Council of Four
why is everyone shitting on this card? if he attacks, he gets to draw 2 then discard 1 with eminence and any other players drawing benefit him too.
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>>94371620
Council isn't a Knight, so it requires an additional creature to do its thing.
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>>94371625
it literally MAKES knights, anon if anyone casts a second spell in the same turn
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>>94371633
*Their* turn, retard-kun. Unless you're playing a deck with a lot of cantrips so you can guarantee a second cast, it won't do anything. Look at the Sidar deck and how high mana cost most of the cards are, he's casting maybe once per turn and using recursion effects like his Commander to get out anything faster.
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>>94371642
that is actually a huge distinction
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>>94371674
See why I keep recommending against it? It's all well and good but any basic draw engine or focused token creator will be better; He needs more interaction and lands before that anyway.
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>>94371562
>4CMC copy spell
ngmi
>inb4 "i-i'll pay with life!"
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>>94371740
>>inb4 "i-i'll pay with life!"
Yes
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>>94368394
Post the full arts.
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>>94371822
https://files.catbox.moe/082hn4.zip
Enjoy.
Once i'm done making my Greasefang proxy, i kind of want to make some tokens again. I'm open to suggestions.
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>>94368249
Why do you have so many lands that enter tapped? You're in only two colors. I don't think you need so many lands that don't work on play. Old-Growth Troll seems iffy. So do the two Licids. I'd also cut Sphere of Safety since I despise those kind of cards, but you may not kind it and it's ilk. Besides that I'd think you'd want to get more protection from creatures auras since you want to be swinging in with your guy and even though flying can get through often, it's not completely perfect.
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>>94371856
Please. I beg you to PLEASE stop replying to this fucker. He has been posting the same deck list for literally weeks.
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>>94370249
Haven't tried it yet but it looks very direct. Just get a lot of ramp and all the biggest guys you can find and swing out seems to be the game plan.
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Are there any gruul commanders that aren't just ROAR ME BIG AND SWING?
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>>94371869
Sorry. Wasn't aware. Only swing by these threads every couple of days.
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>>94371852
Thanks anon. What do you have in mind for the Greasefang proxy?
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>>94371869
why is that bad?
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>>94371891
He is ritual posting. He doesn't give a fuck about suggestions, he just has the same brain parasites as the "gay bolas" poster and the "X life is objectively better than X" poster. They're mentally ill. Do not engage.
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>>94371887
Akira slide with the cute alt art version of Greasefang.
There's some fan proxies online that get close to what i want, but not quite.
I'm way out of practice with my digital drawing skills, so it's taking forever.
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>>94371722
I actually think I didn't really notice how that worked properly, so I decided to set up the deck a little different for this thursdays.
Dropped
>Archfiend of Ifnir
>Urza's Incubator
>The Council of Four
>Xerex Strobe-Knight
>Containment Construct
added
>Compulsion
>Render Silent
>Midnight Reaper
>Three Steps Ahead
>Vault of the Archangel
I still wanna find room for Battle Angels of Tyr and Forbid, but I'd need to get a copy of Forbid.
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>>94371935
>added counterspells
>lowered cmc
>added more draw
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damn I can't believe I downloaded rat porn off of 4chan
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>>94372034
You could be downloading worse things, don't worry about it.
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>>94372043
t-thanks glowanon
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>>94372034
You're getting off to the rats aren't you anon
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Guess his stats and abilities.
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>>94372081
He should be a food commander.
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>>94372091
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>>94372069
>>94372079
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>>94372110
this guy is banned from pet stores
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>>94372114
He’s either banned from pet stores, or makes most of his money selling to pet stores
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Why are there 100 posts in this thread arguing about tranny personality traits
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>>94372114
this precon will be banned for offensive stereotypes towards otherkin
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>>94372140
beats talking about swordbros decks
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>>94372224
desu anything is better than talkin' about modern mtg. it's not a high bar to cross
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I play in an upper mid power level pod. I built a Minthara deck and have been having fun with it, but curious where improvements can be made. For fun, I decided to go tall rather than wide. Open to what wide would be like as well.

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9856827/minty_higher_power
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>>94372224
At least swordbro's decks are cool, interesting, and frequently changed so it isn't the same stagnant pile posted day in and day out. We even had that anon put them on (pretty accurate tbqh) tiers before.
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>>94372297
>(pretty accurate tbqh)
they were awful tiers and you outed yourself as the tierlistfag
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>>94372278
4 draw spells is criminal, you definitely need more.
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>>94372309
Could you shut the fuck up, faggot? You fucking tier them if you're so smart and objectively correct. You're an asshole and I'm tired of it.
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>>94371740
I have literally never seen anyone not pay life for the thing.
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>>94371856
>enter tapped
Colour fixing will be pretty important and I dont like wasting money on lands. Those are all the fetchable duals ^.^ I agree about the licids they're just always cute cards that never make the cut. Thank you!
>>94371869
>>94371896
Why are you making stuff up to be upset about anon this is such absurd behavior lmao the deck literally says when it was built, and it was built yesterday....
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>>94372531
Whoops forget the proof! Although anyone could check if they opened it up themselves. The people who take this thread seriously are genuinely insane and reaching unsafe levels of delusion. Guy was actually convinced I've been posting this deck for weeks
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>random at the LGS Sign in Blood's an opponent
>no bloodthirst triggers or other synergies or follow-ups
>the targeted opponent was at 30-something life
>when asked why he said he had 8 cards in hand and it was either that or discard it
I tried not to be a dick about it but that was a stupid play.
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>>94372542
Imagine falling for secret alliances
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>>94372140
Obsession
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>>94372332
Chad energy
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>>94372140
Because zoomers have taken over the internet. There was also some fags talking about "power imbalances" in relationships and how EVIL they are!!!! The 4chan we loved has been domesticated and infiltrated by "men" with feminist brains
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>>94372542
I once had a font of mythos in play, without any way to deny opponents or make it non-symmetrical. One of my opponents blew it up because "he was drawing cards faster than he could play them, and discarding is bad!". Some people have absolutely no understanding of improving their hand. They'll look at a card like faithless looting and wonder what the point is.
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>>94372561
Imagine falling for botted propaganda
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>>94372580
What on earth are you trying to say lmao
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>>94372577
>he was drawing cards faster than he could play them, and discarding is bad!"
The reasoning is bad but there are situations where blowing up a Howling Mine style card is correct even when it's symmetrical.
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>>94372314
True. Having a hard time gutting other categories though. I do have insatiable avarice, so technically 5 draw. I really like removal, but maybe 15 is too much?
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>>94372670
Cut 5 removals for draw.
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>>94368799
killed someone with commander damage via this a couple days ago
such a perfect card in my fairy deck, it really channels 'fairies are assholes who like to fuck with you'
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>>94372666
I assume that if you put such cards in your deck, even if you don't have ways to make them unsymmetrical, the odds are you've built your deck in a way that you gain a bigger advantage from them.
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>>94372666
>>94372751
Obviously that's true, but I was referring more to the reasoning than the action in and of itself.
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I want a Prowess deck with mostly otters. Should I do Narset with Bria and crew in the 99, or should I just build a Bria deck?
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>saw alot of good goblins are in recent sets
im curious how hated krenko is, i dont have a mono red deck yet and goblins look cool

i know first hand there a nightmare in 1v1s but i havent run into them in commander yet
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>>94372938
Build waifu instead
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>>94372938
Krenko is usually built more to just combo than do pure tribal stuff, any smart pod won't let Krenko or you stick around
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>>94372967
fair i thought about krenko since i playtested wolverine and he to didnt stay on the board long enough to matter
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>>94372938
Dragonhawk is the coolest goblin commander
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>>94372957

>3 mana legendary, token generation, group shock
ehhhh... uncommon
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>>94372957
>calling this dogshit art waifu
Animefags genuinely have no taste
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>>94372957
>To cross swords with her is a shockingly bad idea, because her sword is electrified and would wound you with a shock, the symbol of her church.
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Be playing a deck with 49 lands (UW flyers). Tell friend I'm consider making 2 cuts for 51 lands. Friend looks at me like I killed someone.
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>LGS
>Play against sokrates deck
>Timmy swings them with a 10/10
>Sokrates's ability /w braces activates
>On the trigger Sokrates player plays picrel targeting Timmy
>Sokrates guy draws 1/5 of their library
>Watch as sokrates player returns picrel back to their hand and is ready to do his thing again
>think about the card every time mentions notion thief or group draw effects
I'm guessing the picrel isn't that good and the just got super lucky one time in his life huh?
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>>94373116
Anon why are you doing this to yourself
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>>94373116
I too love mdfcs
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>>94371924
You're drawing it yourself? That's pretty impressive. Godspeed anon. Be sure to share whatever you come up with.
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>>94373420
Sometimes you just got to do things yourself, and it's a great excuse to dip back into an old hobby.
>Remember to share
Will do, just don't get your hopes up.
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>>94368524
>https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532477/knightly_eminence
Do you often find Sacred Torch or Cabal actually end up countering spells?
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>>94374037
Real talk, no. But they often make people hold up cards they would otherwise cast or ask me 'permission' to cast cards. I've had Stromgald Cabal lock down a Jodah deck once and have been chasing that high ever since.
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>>94374037
Probably not because people will simply not cast their white cards if it's untapped. Which is still tremendous value
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>>94373160
it's fine if you're wheeling or consistently do some sort of group huge effects, like with xyris or whatever, you can also use it to stop someone from drawing in their draw step which might be useful sometimes? i'd probably throw it in with a deck that has a lot of looting effects so i can pitch it if someone isn't running a lot of bulk draw spells
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>>94374116
>>94374068
it sounds like you never know if its actually doing anything unless people tell you
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>>94374168
Most players aren't averse to telling you "that card is really fucking me up", anon
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>>94374116
yeah it's like telling people they have to play through counterspells, they don't like having to do it
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>>94373160
It's niche good, which makes it less useful but not bad. A lot of cards fall into this spot, where it's generally better to run something more consistent. Most pods regularly go 10+ rounds so consistency and reusability are important.
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>>94374186
I think it's worse because counterspells you can at least predict there is a limited supply, this creature untaps every single one of your turns so you never run out
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>>94374215
yea it's very powerful and interesting design
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>>94374215
dies to bolt
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>>94374247
bolt?
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>>94374269
not in his deck
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>>94374232
it feels too niche to be good, if he ran this it would only be good against green decks and a dead draw otherwise
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>>94374232
You have no idea how tempted I've been to try and find a place for Deathgrip in this deck or in another. Color-hosing is just so silly to me, and since Sidar lets me Loot, I can just discard it if the decks aren't very green.
>>94374341
It absolutely would be a dead draw against nongreen decks, but at that point it's just a free loot when I swing since I wouldn't need it or have any opportunity cost to discarding it
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>>94374367
i really want to put color hosers in more of my decks. i think they're super hilarious
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>>94374404
If you find that your local meta runs those colors, or you have a way to discard them to replace them (Compulsion, Unfulfilled Desires, Blood Tokens, etc) you absolutely should. Hell, last thursday I killed a guy's Niko deck completely with Earnest Fellowship to the point where he got up and asked the store if they had any and showed the card around to other pods and friends. Lots of people had never heard of it, but it was funny enough to really fuck up any self-targeting deck like Enchantress, etc.
Also digging through my whiteborder cards, I found 3 copies of Deathgrip and a 5th edition animate dead so that's pretty neat
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>>94374168
>play against B and/or W player
>have these out
>they don't cast cards
>wtf how can I know if this is working!?
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>>94374492
dont you just target the card to kill it and when they counter you then cast what you want? seems easy to me
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>>94374501
>going 2 for 1
>with a 3mv creature
>in B/W
>against a reanimator commander
lol
lmao even
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>>94374460
>Earnest Fellowship
this seems like shit to me, what's the benefit?
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>>94374565
Take just a second to imagine your commander is Esper colors and has Protection from White, Protection from Black, and Protection from Blue all at the same time. Now imagine doing that in a deck where you almost never target your own creatures on board, but your opponents may want to use an aura on their creature (or already have), a single-target protection spell like Tamiyo's Safekeeping, etc and they end up just being unable to do those things. The Niko in question was the one who targets to remove one of his own creatures to turn all of his shards into it until end of turn, but once it was completely disabled, it felt amazing.
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>>94374565
NTA, but looking at it makes me tempted to test it in my 4c infect deck.
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>>94374604
Atraxa? Because imagining Atraxa with Protection from Blue/White/Black/Green is terrifying, not to mention how many infect creatures become unblockable when they have simple color protection.
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>>94374588
did you win that game?
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>>94374341
Just alter reality anon
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>>94374641
Oh definitely not. Right as I was going for a finisher, I revived my Herald of Hoofbeats so I could kill the Glacial Chasm player during the only turn he was ever not going to have one out, but the Rendmaw player blew it up during the Declare Attackers step to stop me from winning that turn since I was killing both of them. Ended up being unable to get through Chasm, so I came in "second". Honestly, everyone having goaded 2/2 crows that had Protection from Black was really neat too.
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>>94374669
>my strat was so based oh em gee
>lost
lmao
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>>94374713
>he has to win to have fun
I can't imagine
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>>94374632
Actually Saskia the unyielding, used to be an Atraxa deck. Her notoriety meant she got removed all the time no matter if she had an effect on the game or not. Plus i wanted to to try and dip into red and Saskia seemed like a decent way to speed up the gameplan.
Like you mentioned, with Earnest Fellowship the infecters get both protection and evasion, and Atraxa might actually stick around so it could be worth the try.
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every time I see a game on yt I coom because there are almost always 0-2 basics on board
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>>94374760
Fuck off, faggot. What's the point of playing if you aren't trying to win?
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>>94374776
That sounds like it'd be sick then, I think you should throw it in and report back on how it serves you. People never seem to know what to do at first since it's a lot to keep track of every creature suddenly having protection from themselves
>>94374786
>not winning means you weren't trying to win
lol. lmao, even.
I JUST said I was trying to finish the game when a guy cucked me out of it with a removal spell before he died
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>>94374786
>trying to win
*with worse cards than your opponents
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>>94374786
Hanging out with friends, enjoying the mechanics of the game, the emergent stories that occur as games play out, just liking to play sling cards, more? If all you want to do is win, I laugh at you like I laugh at my best friend who only just broke their 2+ month losing streak.
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>>94374798
I'll have think it over.
The big hurdle is that i switched out a lot of the usual proliferation effects for instant speed combat tricks, which might 'cause some grinding of gears when creatures get protection.
So if i try it, it's probably a major retooling of the deck with putting the proliferation effects back, which is a pain in the ass.
Will report it in these threads if it does end up happening though.
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>>94374835
Christ my spelling is falling into the gutter. Time to hit the hay.
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>>94374835
Hey man, no pressure. If you do do it, I'll look forward to seeing it, if not, it's always an idea for another deck. Helping people learn about weird niche cards that add a strange variety and change up the game is one of my favorite things in the world and practically what I live for.
>>94374841
Have a good sleep, anon
>>94374824
this
cards = fun
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>>94374856
Did I say you could reply to me? Just because I think the other anon is a fucking retard DOESN'T mean I like you or want you here. Namefags are cancer, no exceptions.
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>>94374890
gottem
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>>94374890
>>94374856
you're both coping retards that lose so much you act like it makes you look cool to not 'want' to win
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If I'm evenly-matched, 25% of my win chance is decided by going first.
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>>94374946
I believe you
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>>94374946
>i said 'land, pass' first so i win
lmao
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>>94374923
Naw, I win plenty of my games, winning just isn't the only reason I play. If winning is the only reason you play, I feel sorry for you and hope you win every game you play.
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look at this cute little DOOD
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I hate UB so much bros
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>>94375134
No one fucking cares, not even other UB haters. Quit the game, if you hate them so much, because they'll never stop.
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>>94375089
My bundle is in the mail. Hodl for me until the lair goes 3x minimum
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>>94375152
nice demoralization tactic
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>>94374786
>>94374923
>try to win
>lose
>still have fun cause not faggot
Vs (you).
>try to win
>lose
>seethe like a faggot
Not needing to win isn't the same as not trying to win.
>>94374800
Youre gay too for too many reasons to count but the short and simple is if you're beating them with worse cards they aren't worthy opponents
>>94374890
Embarrassing anon. You're a grown man act like one
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>attempt to flip my scalped Marvel SLs as soon as they come in the mail from WotC
Or
>Wait a few months (like maybe until summer 2025) to flip the SLs
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>>94375134
Same niggy, but the upside is that the cards are usually pushed so you can target the faggots using them!
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>>94375168
>if you're beating them with worse cards they aren't worthy opponents
damn, I've never in my years seen anything as retarded posted here before. gratz
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>>94375173
I dont believe in a reprint. Look at Tomb Raider lair for trajectory. Good reprints, meh unique commander. Now add the Marvel tax.
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>>94374991
25% of 25% is 5% anon.
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I fucking hate field of the dead. I keep losing to it because the fags who run it always also run land recursion so destroying it is not enough. there needs to be way more nonbasic exiling/tucking effects than just eldrazi and the couple chaos warps
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>>94375259
...It's not.
Can always count on edh/g/ to fail pretty basic math.
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>>94375259
12.5%*
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>>94375309
>>94375259
it's 6.25% you mong
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>>94375259
No it's 25% it's right there.
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Can the next OP be Niv sucking his own greasy cock again? I liked that thread.
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did I open /b/ by accident?
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>>94375194
>anons larp is shown to be retarded and he has no rebuttal
Edh classic
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Behead Simic players
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>>94372957
>another mono red ETB burn card
holy shit there are so many now, I can probably update my norin deck from ~10 ETB card to ~15 now
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Bottom for Izzet players
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>>94375089
>>94375158
Mine are supposed to be here Friday and I've got the decks ready to go for fnm
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>>94375380
yeah, must hurt to only get 1 (you) with a mass reply too
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Mating press Grixis players
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>>94375678
I counter that
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>>94375678
>3 color
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>>94373160
Can also use it to target yourself and force a draw. I had someone do that at the prerelease and honestly I'm salty about it to this day
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>>94375163
You aren't some valiant warrior. You're just a fat dude whining online. With an over inflated self image
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>>94375928
holy projection
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>>94372531
>>94372536
I'm not catching a virus on the offsite archives just to disprove your gaslighting. You have been posting it for weeks, most of us were there.
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>>94375943
You used that wrong
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>>94375355
/b/ is one of the better boards. Top 3 worst boards are /pol/, /v/, and /vg/
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>>94376045
What the hell happened for that to be considered one of the better boards?
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>>94376056
Rise of AI slop threads because they gen cunny
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>>94376056
/pol/ zoomers took over most other boards
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>>94375727
I have a deck for each 3 color combination:
Abzan: Karador, Ghost Chieftain
Temur: Riku of Many Paths
Sultai: The Wise Mothman
Jeksai: Narset, Enlightened Exile
Mardu: Awaken the Blood Avatar
Esper: Raffine Scheming Seer
Naya: Hazezon, Shaper of Sand
Grixis: Mishra, Eminent One
Bant: Falco Spara, Pactweaver
Jund: Coram, the Undertaker
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>>94376186
>UBslop
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>>94376186
>playing a t4 commander
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>>94376201
>doesn't know to swing before wiping
>had to cheat to win
this is your "game designer" btw
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>Considering cutting 3cmc Samut from my Henzie list
>Will mean I'll be at only 9 draw
I have a good few reanimators, graveyard fetchers and cards that put stuff from my library on the field, combined with a few sources of draw in other places. But it feels scary going below 10 regardless.
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>>94376186
>Jund: Coram, the Undertaker
Ultra fuckin' based
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>>94376228
i mean it sounds scary but with Henzie all of your creatures should be replacing themselves so the draw isn't as important as it would be in other commanders
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>>94376259
True. Having conditional draw & ramp in the command zone at 3cmc is cozy.
A hand with 3 lands, a dork and a 5-cost bomb is an ideal hand with a margin of 2 whole cards for interaction or whatever else. And if Henzie sticks for at least a single turn, a single blitz gets me all of the value out of Henzie I need to not be too bothered by him getting removed.
Draw in the command zone always seems a bit lame, but having both ramp and draw in there allows some devilishly greedy deckbuilding
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Unban it
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>playing my 100$ dragonhawk deck
>guy playing his 2000$ kenrith deck
>i suggest the other players blow up his training grounds
>"why are you targetting me??"
>kenny has rhystic and smothering tithe out
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>>94376218
He pretty much exclusively plays limited.
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>>94376975
Post list please ^.^ I really wanna make my dragonhawk deck. Is it fun? My plan is to have it be a goblin deck, casts and swing with dragonhawk to let all the cards in exile fizzle and win that way
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>>94376630
Hear, hear! Unban it!
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>>94377113
i feel like you might be able to run a bunch of cheap bad creatures that happen to have 4 power to get card advantage from the hawk
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>>94377270
Yes i currently have 2 lists, one is a bunch of cheap 4 power cards and then other cards that say "when X attacks creatures get +X/+0 til end of turn, and the other list is essentially goblin tribal with dragonhawk leading
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is gitrog lands fun?
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>>94377113
pretty fun, would love that new double damage dragon
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>>94377431
bro? your war room?
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>>94377446
only one i got's somewhere else
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>>94377431
Appreciate it! Very different than what I currently had but there's some obvious shit i missed i still should have like strionic. Thanks looks fun
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>>94368400
Do you ever win?
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>>94377526
yeah sometimes it wins with tutoring out aetherworks marvel and value, sometimes it kills someone early with an embercleave jolene beatdown, etc. but my pod isn't too crazy most of the time
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>>94369677
>why play?
Probably because it's EDH and even if you just stick to sets from pre 2005 you can still make thousands of unique and interesting decks and have fun. I mean it's edh, if you're obsessively upgrading and tuning every time a set comes out you should probably go play a real format.
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>>94376630
Yeah, unban it!
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>>94374786
I play just for fun, I can't be fucked to care enough about winning or losing. I've won a thousand games, I've lost a thousand games. It doesn't fucking matter



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