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>>94392399>How much effort do you put into your homebrew?Zero because I'm not a colossal faggot
>TQNot much beyond aesthetics and planning on what their colours will be. Not much beyond that.If I had the time, money and working space I'd make a PDF lore primer for them complete with ForgeWorld cinematic photography as well. If I had the skill to learn graphic design properly.
>>94392399I paint my models and play games with friends so a lot more than most of the people shitposting here on a given day
My hive tyrant enjoys knitting.
my deathleaper fucks human men
>>94392399I have battle tactics, regimental structure and basic equipment worked out. But 0 named characters and I keep flip flopping on the theme of the homeworld.Bad autism.
Is that greenstuff world paint remover and simlar green goos better than using methylated spirits/isopropyl? I've perpetually got a pile of ebay lot minis caked all manner of not mini approved mystery paints. Any parents posting ITT never ever give your child plastic glue or enamel paints. Everyone including probably them if they ever get older and want to repaint them will thank you for making them use only super glue and acrylic instead of an army that looks like they are melting under their 10 thick coats of Hammerite and deck sealing paint.I could try using Acetone or White Spirit/OMS since they are useless to me if I can't strip them anyway but I've never gotten a straight answer if it just softens/weakens them or melts them into goo within minutes like MEK. >How much effort do you put into your homebrew?a moderate amount. the most I've made up for an army is my french inspired IG where I made a fictional force org structure and named all the officers and platoon/company level NCOs plus a little backstory.
>>94392399>TQVery little because I play an established chapter company. I don’t read novels though so if those established characters (like the name of the captain of the third company, his typical wargear, etc) then oh well.>>94392468This post makes me think about that lieutenant that has the tyranid chitin plates basically worn as trophies.Too bad he’s a Phobos LT. The only playable Phobos units don’t overly benefit from spending extra for a leader.
New Custodes model (unpainted):
>>94392500Get the goat
>>94392515thanks doc
>>94392399>How much effort do you put into your homebrew?I just paint up dudes and think about why they're doing what they do
>Getting back into 40k after not playing since 6th edition>Finally settle on a list I'm happy with>Need to cut 20 points of fat to make it fit>In any previous edition I've played, and the 3 I missed, I could have take out a single model from my Chosen unit and been done or maybe cut down on some wargear choices>Now I have to cut a whole Cultist unit and then have 30 points left overThis edition is fucking gay.
>>94392536nice larp
>>94392502do modern modern genestealers still have those separate shoulder chitin plates pieces? there's a dummy simple tyrannic war/bug hunter conversion shown for the old Narrative Campaign rules where you just glue some of those chitin plates onto the shoulder pads or somewhere else prominent and use a Cadian canteen/knife pouch (or simlar) to attach a piece of nid claw or a knife made from talons to their belt.
>>94392536You buy yourself a nice enhancement with the point difference.Also keep the Heldrakes at home. Flyers are generally trash this edition.
>>94392548yes, sort of. it would require a little knife work but you could do it. its not an optional part though, its connected to a bit of the spine in a weird way
>>94392536>hasn't played for over a decade>somehow expects his list to be even close to legal You set yourself up for this disappointment
>>94392536>and then have 30 points left overgoodness no
>>94392550they should really just remove flyers as a unit type and make them behave like fast, fragile skimmers. when flyers work, they are usually too good, and when they're bad they are unusable, and in either case they bend the rules of the game into pretzels to accommodate them
>>94392559I always forget that they updated genestealers with the other nids. Guess they didn't change much with the new ones tho
>>94392568the biggest change was that they now come with 10 ymgarl heads, enough to do the whole squad, and they have some more dynamic poses. downside is that they lost the scything talon bits, and the shoulder chitin is now a mandatory bit. but overall its a solid kit. that said, you can still easily find the older genestealers kit for the time being.
>>94392546>>94392562>>94392565bizarre butthurt replies over nothing.
>>94392562It's not my old list, I sold all my old models in 2013, it's just the list I'm gonna be working towards as I get started painting again.
>>94392550Sucks because I love the model. Great centerpiece.
Does anyone have some homebrew for Court of the Nephilim King?
How are Daemon Princes? Do they have to go with wings to be any good?
What resources does an Eldar Craftworld need to sustain itself and possibly grow? Their problem is that they exist few in number in a violent universe and they generally try to avoid conflict as much as possible. So why not spend most of their time outside of the universe in their own pocket dimension. Unlike the Dark Eldar they don't need fresh slaves to torture, couldn't they take what they need to survive and spend their time in peace? It would ensure the Eldar race would never die out.
>>94392620Because they care about the galaxy
>>94392510Based.
>>94392550>Also keep the Heldrakes at home>Some of you flyers are alright. Don't come to GW sanctioned tournaments this edition. Obviously he got his Pumped Up Kicks moment when he sent the Vulture Gunship to legends because of Warwick Kincade kicking sand in his face and fucking his GF.
>>94392623Oh yeah, huh I kind of forgot about the fact that they're still incredibly empathetic and have existed in the galaxy for a long time, they would have a reason to stay.
>>94392584Then that matters even less than it already did given you've sunk no money into it yet
>>94392510uuuuuoooooohhh big lady sexooo
>>94392502>This post makes me think about that lieutenant that has the tyranid chitin plates basically worn as trophiesIt's obvius that he is meant to be a tyrannic warvet, at least slowly becoming one.The reason why he has the chitin plates is not only because of trophies but it is improvised armor to give himself more survivability, since he is very clearly a guy who has been spending lot of time behind the enemy lines without resupply.He does have a small trophy on his belt which is the sickle claw and the gold pendant.I do hope GW updates the TWvets at some point, really weird that they didn't make them part of the Leviathan box.
>>94392601They look cool with or without wings. Build your DP in the way you like the most aesthetically
>>94392652I just mean in play. Footslogging him makes me anxious even with a 2+/4++/5+++
>>94392641I have bought the Veterans of the Long War box + a Vindicator, but I guess I'll change shit around. By the time I'm close to having it all bought and assembled maybe I'll be lucky enough for the next balance patch or two to have cut the 20 points for me.
>TQ:>GSC on ice world>penal minersTherefore orange undersuits, brown padding, and blue vehicles.
>>94392399>TQAll the characters and all the Inquisitorial Acolytes have names. Working on small backstories for all of them.
>>94392663That's why you build an army for aesthetics and not points. Your points and rules may change, but your models will always look the same
>>94392685Yjk this bitch burn the first side of her grilled cheese every time
>>94392687Even if sanctioned, a xenos can still not grill a cheese in His name.
>>94392686That's basically what I did though. Basically the only thing in that lists primarily for gameplay purposes were the cultists. Otherwise I was just trying to fit in as many of the models I like as I could.
have you ever been tempted to paint an entire army in 90's style?
>>94392717YesThat's usually around the time I realize that I forgot to open the windows before I started airbrushing and that the fumes have started to rot my brain.
>>94392725you haven't built up a tolerance to paints yet?you really need to be drinking 8-9 nuln oils a day
>>94392717no it's uggo.
>>94392717Nah I don't find blacklining very fun. I do like the colours they used through the 90s era tho and some of the very early examples of feathering is neat
>>94392536The complete contrarian comments you're getting is very amusing. Any other day they'd totally agree with you. What a worthless lot
>>94392737It's 1 guy.
>>94392740with 1 jar?
>>94392760probably more than 1
>>94392404Your reply just proves how much of a colossal faggot you really are.
>>94392536This edition gave me aids.
>>94392794you're not supposed to fuck the femboys
>>94392695This made me laugh more than you know.
If you were given the chance to choose the functions for the next DoW game, which would you they be?
>>94392717Sometimes. But only if the models are from that period.
>>94392729That's just the pregame.
>>94392717yes. I always paint bright colours on white primer but I'm going to fully dedicate to the bit for some of my old 90s metal minis with period accurate colours and like the Coat D'Arms range that copies old GW colours and the iconic to the period ink washes.Also do any anons who know about old mins and OOP stuff (the Steel Legion anon is very knowledgeable about this kind of thing) know what those alphanumeric codes that mins have mean like AL-045 or AW-035 etc.? I was trying to figure out if my old metal jump chaplain is a early 2000s or 90s model (its at least no younger than that based on when I bought it)
>>94392815>the functionswell attack, move, build, stuff like that
>>94392815I'd include as few as possible and flesh them out as much as I can.I hate the expectation that DOW has put into people where every game has to shoehorn in all the factions.
>>94392729>you really need to be drinking 8-9 nuln oils a dayIn this economy!?
>>94392826you gotta learn how to brew your own nuln oilme, personally, I like to add some tamiya panel liner to minehelps take the edge off so my hand doesn't shake when I'm painting eyes
>>94392815genestealers, votann, admech
>>94392536>alpha legion disguised as alpha legion fighting alpha legion>the chaos sorceror is actually an undercover loyalist
>And the hangman stood at his usual stand with a yellow hemp in his busy hand >with his buckshot eye and his jaw like a pike>and his air so knowing and business-like >and we cried >hangman have you not done yesterday with the alien one>then we fell silent and stood amazed>oh not for him was the gallows raised he laughed to laugh as he looked at us>did you think i'd gone to all this fuss to hang one man>that's the thing i do to stretch the rope when the rope is new
how are lightning claw terminators these days? I'm thinking of those or the old standard storm bolter/power fists
>>94392804It's a traaaaap
>>94392884You're paying for the thunder hammer and storm shield regardless
>>94392883*loud farting noise*
>>94392884For an assault squad, thunderhammer + stormshield is pretty definitely better imo and regular termies don't get lightning claws. And like the other Anon said, because this is 10th you're paying for the power of the better option regardless of which you take.For Chaos Termies Lightning Claws are just a 1 per 5 models upgrade. I'm a fan, mostly for the aesthetics.
>>94392548He’s not a tyranid hunter. He’s just lucky.
What are your hobby weaknesses /40kg/?I've got this annoying problem where I only enjoy painting minis of people (xenos count thankfully) and while painting I'll think about who they are and often give them a name and such.Where this becomes a problem is with non-persons, vehicles, creatures etc. I just don't care and cannot bring myself to paint them any further than just basecoat+ wash, if I paint them at all.
>Dark Apostle can't go with a 10 man squad in a rhino because there isn't room for his 2 disciples>Can't even choose to voluntarily drop one of the little shitters during list-makingWhat were they thiiiiiiinking
Does Frontline Gaming still do that thing where they'll buy your whole army? I've got a Genestealer Cults army that hasn't seen the table in three years.
>>94392987you would have MUCH MUCH better luck and better price selling it either on ebay or reddit/facebook miniswap group. any actual retailer buying an army is going to give you absolute bottom dollar trash prices that are not worth your time. i have sold about 10-12 armies over the last 10 years or so, ask for NO LESS than 55-60% MSRP PLUS shipping. offer free shipping only if you absolutely need the cash right this second. also i really dont recommend doing splits or parting out the army if you want to sell it, because what will happen is people will buy up the units that are in demand right away, and then leave you holding half an army that you can niether play nor sell because its full of the units people dont want as much, and you'll have to keep lowering the price on them or eventually just basically give them away. sell the whole thing together as 1 bulk lot or not at all.
>>94392987Put that shit on Ebay, faggot. I just started collecting GSC.
>>94392978>Can't even choose to voluntarily drop one of the little shitters during list-makingYou can though. That's allowed.
>>94392987>>94393009also when shipping the army, buy the shipping insurance, and make sure to take photographs or a video of the miniatures before you package them up, then a picture of them wrapped but not in the box, and then finally of the condition of the box once its all packed and sealed, and make sure to get the shipping label that shows your name and paid postage in the photo/video, you will need this for insurance if they try to fight you. i've only had one issue where i needed to get insurance involved after someone in a warehouse ran over the package with a forklift, but in those situations what usually happens is you will need to refund the buyer first and then get insurance to pay for the cost of the package. you dont want to have to refund the buyer but then be out a broken or missing army. but again. it wont happen 98% of the time, and the insurance cost (usually between $20-40) will just be thrown away money, but the one time it does happen you'll be glad you had it.
>>94393022>>94393009>>94392987and yeah, ebay is my preferred platform, but be aware they take about a 15% "sellers fee" off the price, so factor that into your sticker price. ebay comes with a lot of protections and guarantees for both buyers and sellers to prevent any fuckery or scams.if you decide to use a minswap group (you can make more money this way since theres no ebay sellers fee, but its less secure) make sure to use paypal goods and services only. refuse any other requested payment methods. paypal goods and services provides some seller and buyer protections in the case of scams, and also offers some help with setting up shipping, tracking, and handling receipts. most groups will say this in their intro page or rules section, but i thought i'd mention it just in casei've done both, and had good success with both ebay and the reddit miniswap group. one upside to ebay is that unlike a swap group where your army post will be burried in the feed after 2 or 3 days, an army can sit on ebay for months until someone bites without having to constantly repost it (longest i've had an army take is 3 months. most are 1-4 weeks for 40k, longer for aos)
how to play deathwing knights correctly? should i deep strike them every time?no i will not deep strike them in my ass
>>94393033If you're UK based it's free now, no 15%
>>94393043that makes zero fucking sense. how does ebay make any money over there? just ad revenue? or is ebay UK a charity site funded by the rest of the world using it. or do they have to pay a subscription or something?
>>94392500Never use Acetone on plastic minis, it will melt the paint and the mini at the same time, warping the mini and melting the paint into it. Generally don't bother with hobby branded paint strippers, they're meant for removing paint off of a single area of a mini at a time, not doing whole armies. The best stuff is biostrip 20, it's a paint on stripper so you don't have to submerge everything, just slap on a thick coat, and the paint will be able to rinse off in an hour.
>>94393060>are ya winning, son?
>>94393061There's been serious competition for online selling sites in the UK, Vinted basically became the new ebay, which caused ebay to take away selling fees for clothes, and now everything. They still make money off of businesses that sell through ebay, as well as sponsored listings and the fee for setting reserves on auctions.
>>94393060Call Tancred. He'll know what to do.
>>94392943>>94392961damn, I've got some of the cataphractii to build so no storm shields
>>94392968I dont enjoy painting infantry with lots of little details like belts and buckles, at least not en masse (individual characters are fine)which sucks for my orks, but once I had 40ish infantry I could just focus on vehicles from then on
>>94393041Deploy them normally out in the open without cover so I can shoot them
>>94393078huh. well i guess if you live in the UK, then ignore what i said about the 15% sellers fee.
>>94393107and to add onto that, if thats the case for you, there is almost no reason to use a riskier social seller group if ebay has no fee, so i would just use ebay 100%
>>94393021What, no you can't? The minimum unit size of a Dark Apostle is 1 Dark Apostle and 2 Dark Disciples. You can't go below the minimum unit size. Just like you can't take a squad of 4 Chaos Legionaries.If the Dark Apostle is with a 10 man squad you could drop one model from that, since you CAN take any number of models between the minimum and maximum unit size (You'll still be paying for the full size of course). But at that point you'd be better off just running another character instead.
>>94392536You didn’t own a single model until after 8th came out though.
Are there any armies without a free cp generator?
>>94393060It's Goofy time!
>>94392548>carrying Nid biomass on your bodyIsn't this a huge fucking risk? Can't a single phage cell turn into a hive fleet with enough time and meat?
>>94393150but enough about your primaris loving ass
>>94393060>I was only nine years old. I loved Bjorn the Fell-Handed so much, I had all the codexes and miniatures. I'd pray to Bjorn the Fell-Handed every night before I go to bed, thanking for the life I've been given. "Bjorn is love", I would say, "Bjorn is life". My dad hears me and calls me a faggot. I knew he was just jealous for my devotion of Bjorn the Fell-Handed. I called him a cunt. He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep. I'm crying now and my face hurts. I lay in bed and it's really cold. A warmth is moving towards me. I feel something touch me. It's Bjorn the Fell-Handed. I'm so happy. He whispers in my ear, "This is my Fenris". He grabs me with his powerful Trueclaw, and puts me on my hands and knees. I spread my ass-cheeks for Bjorn. He penetrates my butthole. It hurts so much, but I do it for Bjorn. I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water. I push against his force. I want to please Bjorn the Fell-Handed. He roars a mighty roar, as he fills my butt with his love. My dad walks in. Bjorn the Fell-Handed looks him straight in the eye, and says, "For Russ and the Allfather!". Bjorn leaves through my window. Bjorn is love. Bjorn is life.
>>94393152There is unironically a lot of untapped potential for 40k romance novels.
>>94393060Bjorn is going to get Primarized and come back as a normal fully functional Space Marine Veteran outside of a dreadnought.Sorry Space Wolves fans
>>94393151>CP generators in Imperium armies>if you are on the board you get +1 CP>CP generators in CSM armies>if you pass a dark pact ld test on a 7+ you get +1 CP>roll a d6, getting +1 if you are in your enemy's deployment, on a 5+ you get 1CP>if you are tzeentch marked and pass a dark pact ld test on an 8+ you get +1CP>roll a d6 adding one for every battle shocked enemy unit, on a 5+ you get +1CPFuck GW lol
>>94393173I'm still waiting for my Kharn and Argel Tal doujin. Jokes aside I never got the gay jokes but I'm rereading Betrayer now and I can now see what the Fujos are reading into. If a week ago you'd have told me that Kharn as POV character says Tal looks like a desert preacher boy with a whispy mustache I'd have said "I don't remembre that. fuck off that's not in the book".
It's been nearly a year now and James hasn't released striking scorpions separately.>>94392815Make it a base builder like DoW 1
>>94393181I wouldn't be too surprised if the space wolf dreadnought was the only boxnought to survive
>>94393164>Bjorn the Fell-Handedmy guess is Bjorn gets legends when the current model is no longer economical and GW brings back Russ so annoyingly vocal SW fans don't complain Why be fanwanked by the monkey when you can be fanwanked by the £60 organ grinder.
>>94393151Several of them. AdMech and Dark Eldar both come to mind. Both of them kind of have an option to try to refund CP spent on certain units, but it's not the same as a generator and way less flexible.
why are primaris Le Bad?
>>94393266They're not necessarily bad, but their implementation was ham fisted and shoved down the throat of the existing fan base in such a way that many people still feel chafed by it even now. In each of lore, mechanics, and sales method.Other than that, it just comes down to aesthetic preferences which is perfectly reasonable.
>>94393228>Russ returns>much celebrating at the Fang>Bjorn rushes to meet him>Russ is all "hey there... you" before being carried to the great hall>Bjorn left outside, alone>someone turns on the sprinklers
>>94393187Surely the former unit is costed higher than the latter units right? I'm sure GW has balanced this discrepancy out with point cost adjustments... Right?
>>94393266Model refresh to make Space Marine models less squat = FineJustifying this model refresh in universe with a massive replacement event where all the marines people already liked are now, within the logic of the universe, stinky and outdated has-been losers who are way less good and great than the cool and amazing new guys = Not fineAdditionally, removing things like flexible tactical squads and shitting up the chapter organization sucks too.Additionally additionally, the Primaris served to bring the narrative at the time to a lurching halt in the cheaper manner possible. Cadia had just fallen, the Imperium was in it's darkest hour and then, SURPRISE! The Imperium had 10 shitzillion Super Space Marines hiding in the attic the whole time! (This is a good example of why attempting to progress the setting at all was always a bad idea and GW should have stuck with the perpetual status quo)
Is anything stored inside the pauldrons?
Got a game against Black Templar this weekend and I've never played them before. What should I look out for? Is crusader spam and melee heavy lists with Melta rhinos the popular way to play them?
>Cawl: "Greetings, fellow magi. You have been granted clearance to watch the recording of a secret new method of chimeric geneseed creation. While highly unorthodox, it allows for the mixing of up to 5 different gene-seeds."
>>94393326Ammo
>>94393330They priced Crusader spam out.But "Black Templars" doesn't really tell you much, could be a full Ironstorm list that happens to have Helbrecht in it
>>94393331What about 1 gene-seed inside many reciprocals?https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg
what are the best space marine tanks?
>>94393392Land Raiders
>>94392566Agreed, on the condition that all super heavies are removed and named characters go back to fun utility options that you bring with opponent permission, and not required for your army to function
>>94393392The ones that best forge the narrative you are going for.
>>94392875Best thing about the AL is that no-one, not even themselves, know what they're doing or why.
>>94393392predators and land raiders
>>94393392Vindicator
>>94393218No, you don't Macha. Farseers thag get tangled with Imperial boys end up in wraith knights.
>>94393266Anti-cmthematic introduction, some questionable designs (gravis, the jetack dudes with cannons, guys with nerf blasters), bad overly busy vehicles and initial launch had marines who arr rook same.
>>94393392I like Predators the most, but crunch wise it varies too much with edition. I remember Vindicators were pure filth at one point.
>>94393392This >>94393405 but actually this >>94393403
>>94393392the only good looking marine tank is the land raiderwhich is why it should be the one sisters of battle get for themselves now that marines have their primaris grav shit
>>94393266Design is busy, it's mk7 with more extra details for the sake of extra detailsExists to appeal to true scalersKits are worse, only heads and pauldrons are really compatible, now if you want to use your old bits and kitbash it takes a stupid amount of extra work we didn't have before.Trying to make people replace their old armiesRemoved existing unitsI could go on and on, they suck.They could work, they could always have worked, they could have been a fun addition to marine armies.But instead GW wanted to pull a space marine 2 electric boogaloo and reboot space marines for their new market and demographics.I know your post is stupid bait, but I can still make it worth something
>>94393330It’s either Melee infantry spam, Land Raider centered heavy armor spam, or a mix of both. Either way being long range anti tank and good anti infantry fire power and prepare to back up.
One day I want to redesign primaris armor to make it suck less
>>94393476>prepare to back upIf he's running infantry spam won't I just get boxed into my deployment zone then?I'm still never sure how aggressively or defensively I should be deploying on different missions or against different armies.
why doesn't GW make multipose kits out of all the new ork sculpts?literally just put the cuts in different places?do they want to lose money?
Thoughts, feedback on my Tau paint scheme idea? I've been looking for a camo style with the idea of urban combat, night raids, etc. so went with this tiger stripe. Any feedback?
>>94393503WE WUZ ZEBRAS N SHIET
>The flesh is weak>Are these...new genetically superior Astartes? Why...thank you Lord Guilliman!
>>94393321Fall of Cadia was a good launching point. If the continuation was smaller plot development concerning the fates of entire sectors or important characters. The issue is that GW is spineless. So when Chaos gets the major upper hand and a million enraged manchildren cry out at once they have to pull retarded shit out their ass to deflate that. Essentially even if they progress the plot they can't really evolve the setting to avoid enraging the large % of the fanbase that are mental children who can't handle growth. Similarly they can't ever kill characters because of the same autist tantrums that will result from GW taking way (say nothing of model sales) meaning there can never be a meaningful sense of threat or stakes. I'd say progression without growth is meaningless and threat with no consequences can't provide catharsis but that makes it sound like i'm writing "Critique of Pure Marvelslop"
>>94393503Siiiiiick, how much time did you spend on the camos?
>>94393508The iron hands undermine a lot of the Astartes program in retarded ways. First because they replace cutting edge genetic engineering with mechanical components to do the same damn thing. And second because the very existence of those mechanical equivalents raises the question of why space marines even have to exist in the first place.
Chaos Knights seem pretty fucking cool.Hope the eventual dark mech gets to use them freely in the their ranks.
>>94393513>autist tantrums that will result from GW taking waytake away their space marine shaped safety blanket
>>94393513>Similarly they can't ever kill characters because of the same autist tantrumsFunny thing is that they still occasionally do. They just make it totally meaningless, off-screen deaths that mean nothing.
>>94393517Just a few minutes
>>94393520I mean, in fairness, the basic point of Iron Hands is that they're fucking retarded
Other than the cawdor redemptionists kit, are there any other kits with dudes with robesI want to kitbash some ministorum priests but I find the necromunda models sometimes scaled a little big for my liking
>>94393523wake me up when they can snib people.
>>94393499That's one of the reasons tactical rocks exist and why now feet are now parallel to the ground, it's to make kitbashing and use of 3rd party bits as hard as possible.Everytime you see a shitty tactical rock, be it a character or sometimes a regular unit, know that it's to make your life harder.GW wants you to build the model as they want, it's not a hobby, it's a miniature brand>inb4 it was always like thatTry me bitch
>>94393528Are you ignoring the massive shitfit the guard community had over Yarrick getting offed off-screen and GW walking it back by implying he might not actually be dead?
>>94393508Is there even a point in the existence of the Iron Hands?
>>94393513I think it's less of GW being spineless or weak and then correctly knowing people don't largely give one shit about the vast majority of the lore and having it remove models they own is bad. If I like a character and can run him in games that's cool, it being removed because he dies in some gay BL novel is probably bad. So yeah the narrative suffers from being somewhat toothless but that's because tabletop chads trump loretards
>>94393508Why is the captain barely more blinged out than a sarge?This dude looks like a sarge from 20 years ago
>>94393499They're trying to mitigate the third party market of separate kits. Especially for orks, there's a sea of other producers that make pieces which are compatible with GW products.
>>94393503>married Get out.
>>94393543>>94393553I mean, they still print and sell the old boyz kitThey could also just offer kitbashing sprues, like they do for sm factions, it'd be overpriced and still sell like hotcakes
>>94392399My orks travel along the great WAAAAGH!!! highway to travel from planet to planet by going as fast as orkily possible till they just teleport to the next planet
>>94393520The Mechanicus won't share the parts to make robomarines in the amount you would need to make a lot of them. The only reason the Iron Hands do is because they get preferential treatment.
>>94393151Non Ultramarine SM iirc
>>94393520I don't think the mechanicus would be willing to share things like praetors with the wider imperium unless they have supervision of some kind.
>>94392987Give that army to me. Consider it charity and discount it from taxes.
Corax white is actually very light grey.
>>94393513Warhammer 40k is not a plot, that's the actual problem with your thinking. It is a setting for having little men fight each other and there are meme slapfights going on in the background like the Siege of Ballsdeep, the extremely important fortress in Ultima Segmentum you've never heard of that's being attacked by unknown wraithlike enemies who turn out to be the Necrons and somehow the ultramarines come to defend them.
>>94393544when did they walk that back?
>>94393551they could just keep selling/updating the model and writing new rules. Let its popularity keep it on sale (which is defacto already the case even for living characters like Huron). Erasmus Tycho hung on for like 15 years after his canonical death. It's not like 40k is Vampire the Masquerade with a inflexibly rigid timeline that games take place in. Unless you are playing a Campaign/Crusade with a defined narrative tied to in universe events or are playing against the most 'tism afflicted individuals who the fuck will care if your hero mini is dead or if it doesnt make lore sense that he's fighting in the scouring of the m'umbo j'umbo system
>>94393266My biggest beef with them is generally the lack of customization in the squads, but that was 100% solved with the black templar crusader and sword brethren squads, so I'm actually good with em now.That said, Gravis moon boots and leg cables look fucking stupid and the new jump packs aren't great (luckily the old ones still fit on assault intercessors)New terminators look amazing. No notes
>>94393266The models and new statlines and stuff are amazing and the idea of the old marines being squated is both not new in the setting and hilarious but they needed to have more grim dark implications while ultimately being huge fuck ups because there's no way a mortal like cawl could improve on the emprahs designs. Rowboat working with xenos is just blatant heresy it better turn out his corpse is just being soul puppeted by the eldar. Why aren't the squats all controlled by some cognito hazard AI with no free will.Where'd the grim dark go?
>>94393701>Where'd the grim dark go?trench crusade
Why did they get rid of the cool unique necron lore and just make them tomb kings in space?
>>94393709which lore?
>>94393709like what?
How do I play eldar well this edition?Have aspects stopped being shit yet?
>>94393709because tomb kings dont exist anymore and before there was no unique lore about them besides 'hurr mindless terminators in space controlled by eldritch entity(ies)" which u had tyranids for
>>94393701>Why aren't the squats all controlled by some cognito hazard AI with no free will.>Where'd the grim dark go?You mean the slowly degrading AI that is using indoctrinated clones and is perfectly happy with the consumption of entire worlds?
>>94393715>>94393716The whole being a race of terrible cancerous lepers who fucked with terrible unknowable star entities to just end up horrible trapped undying killing machines thing. Their lore should just be a cluster fuck of the different ctans fucking with them more with an occasional lord finding moments during interctan bickering to gain just enough autonomy to do incoherent insane things and they still btfo everything else currently in the galaxy but the ctan don't give a shit about anything.
>13 hours into a 16 hour shift>tfw just want to go home and paint me boyzIt's all so tiring bros
>>94393709Because all the writers realised the ctan were written and integrated terribly, so they needed to get reduced and sidelined, making them broken and caged shards instead of retconning them out completely was their band-aid solution, following that the necrons themselves had to be in charge, meaning there should be a hierarchy, relations and roles, so the addition of crypteks and of reasons why the necron lords would be different (retained personalities and awakening errors), and without the ctan acting as masterminds and goals for the actions of the necrons, they had to be given reasons of their own to act, simple (re)conquest of their ancient domains was the easier to give them.I say necrons should have been retconned way WAY harder, but GW wanted to keep them as visually similar as possible because they're scared of change.
>another fakegrog crying that le metal Tyranids should come back it's all so tiresome
>TQNot a whole lot of fluff. Just general themes and ideas for each warband/army I have. Mostly chaos.>CSM/Alpha LegionUsing cultists/traitor guard to sow dissent on imperial planets while they heist some loot/relic to help them further their plans>Death GuardUsually it’s fluff of two competing characters vying for power/control by one-upping each others plagues. I usually lose games with them so fluff wise it makes sense in my head why, they can’t get their shit together.>World EatersThey’re a mercenary company for hire to assist other chaos warbands, really just in it to spill blood and take trophies.
>>94393740>The whole being a race of terrible cancerous lepers who fucked with terrible unknowable star entities to just end up horrible trapped undying killing machines thing.none of this has been retconned
>>94393746you better be working in healthcare or something equally essential because if you accepted a 16 hour shift in any other case you fucking deserve it
>>94393606IMO a large part of the reason there are entire nursing homes filled with people who remember 2nd/3rd so fondly is because of shit like the 13th black crusade and 3rd war for armageddon, I'm not suggesting 40k should be a novel series written by Dan Abbnet I'm suggesting it should progress like back then through game materials so it gives a sense of immanent threat and meaning to tabletop battles. Instead of a bunch of worlds being knocked over by chaos then a big blue man comes and fixes everything through Cawls infinity gauntlet the imperium should lose ground without immediately gaining it back and fans shouldn't be certain a character's magic plot armour will save them when the setting wraps up their desperate battle they've been fighting all edition. If 40k remains stagnant in setting for too long you get 7th edition.
>>94393723That's too mundane, the AI should be like so logically infallible that anything capable of reason conversing with it immediately joins it or something or their brain explodes.
>>94392399>TQ Not much, only one I have is that on my space marine army the marines that have first born helmets are those who passed the rubicon , mainly to justify my use of older marks as I think they look neat
>>94393757It's "essential" apparently, but yes I deserve death at this point
>>94393755But now they all have feefees and aren't even insane and where space Egyptian clothing. What is even on nucron lords agenda? To conquer and be evil muahahaha? It should be to find a way to permanently kill themselves as soon possible.
>>94393749Next we'll have someone crying about tau existing
>>94393746Back to work, slave
>>94393749to be fair, it's been 13 years since the change and not a single time there has been even the vaguest hint of a minor ctan led subfaction of necrons to validate the preference of that side of the argument.it's bullshit that the previous characterisation is completely nonexistent aside from people's headcanons or imperial misconceptions of how the necrons operate.
>>94393503Looks like ass, just copy the box art from now on
>>94393772At least they don't talk like old timey British generals anymore.
>>94393774Tau are cool as long as it stays that they're totally super nice guys and just want everyone to get along and have super fancy tech but they're so insignificantly small that they'll never have any more impact on the galaxy being a short lived throw away tzeentch pawn.
>>94393772>But now they all have feefees and aren't even insanewrong and wrong againonly the highest ranking necrons have any sort of sapience whatsoever
>>94393092A squad of 5 LC Terminators are still good at clearing chaff or anything T5 or less, especially if you can give them something like Sustained Hits.
>>94393723>indoctrinatedOr rather just educated>>94393759>infallible that anything capable of reason conversing with it immediately joins it or something or their brain explodesThis is just dumb.
>>94393503look cool, but I think they're a bit flat, they need some edge highlightsthe white dot on the pauldron symbol also looks very raw like that
>>94393709They were cool but unpopular as an army since people wanted to make /my dudes/ with them, and the entire race being mindless slaves to the C'tan, who themselves were not super fleshed out.I think the concept could have been better executed if the faction was framed as though (You) were one of the C'tan ordering your slave minions into battle, with the codex framed as a DIY booklet for a nascent star-god, and instead of being completely unknowable and written from the Imperial POV, the Necrons were still portrayed as mindless playthings but with differences in forces based on what C'tan was commanding them, the Nightbringer and Void Dragon are gonna have different aesthetic and functional tastes even as weird sun-devouring material plane elder gods. However instead GW decided that since people liked Tomb Kings in Fantasy they would just LITERALLY make the Necrons into Tomb Kings In SPAAAAAAAAACE
>>94393772if you want your metal nids just run a ctan shard and a ton of necron warriors instead of being a lil bitch about it
>>94393777I haven't stopped though
>>94393746You don’t have a job though. You’re on welfare and terminally online.
>>94393788>Tau are cool as long as it stays that they're totally super nice guysGav Thorpe already said otherwise, get over it. Your faction has more in common with super earth and the United Citizen Federation than the federation or the Culture.You may not be completely 1984, but you’re still pretty brave new world.
New shit stream next week
Reminder you killed the soul of this hobby by trying to make it a game
Reminder you killed the soul of this game by trying to make it a hobby
>>94393788Also, don’t even try to say Farsight and his enclaves. He’s just blue Horus.
Reminder that it's just toy soldiers, relax
>>94393723The Votann would be considered rather reasonable as a species even in fucking Stellaris, "But they have planet crackers!" is not a serious argument when discussing factions in a science fiction setting with a GALACTIC scale, a planet-killer is proportionately less destructive than having nuclear weapons is in a modern-day setting. There's millions of planets and in many cases destroying entire planets is a necessity; planet-cracking is the objectively correct response to something about to become a Daemon world, or an awakening Necron Tomb World, or a planet completely overrun with Genestealer Hybrids sending out a psychic signal to call a full scale Hive Fleet. "Abloo-bloo they blow up planets!" doesn't make them grimdark, that just means they're not fucking cavemen by the setting's standards. Anyone capable of FTL, orbital bombardment, and interplanetary colonization and terra forming is capable of destroying a populated world. This is a universe where Dyson Spheres and captured stars are used as glorified decorations.
>>94393788tau work best when they've got both the most humane outlook to life and technology AND undertones about their utopia being somewhat dystopian below the surfaceand their role in the galaxy is to both represent one amongst many lesser alien empires AND to be the one race poised to have an exponential growth and be the next galactic power after the fall of men, like men were after the eldarthey shouldn't be crammed into one single flanderised niche
>>94393758>big blue man comes and fixes everything through Cawls infinity gauntletthis only kinda happened with Devastation of Baal, and even than it was just Gorillaman saying they were going to fix Baal. Everywhere else is just throwing bodies at the problem in the Indomitus crusade to try to keep things stable with a Pyrrhic victory at best on the side of the Imperium.
>>94393831Throughout the entirety of history, people have killed for less. This is relaxed in comparison.
>>94393836>planet-cracking is the objectively correct response to something about to become a Daemon world, or an awakening Necron Tomb World, or a planet completely overrun with Genestealer Hybrids sending out a psychic signal to call a full scale Hive Fleet.votann don't crack planets at risk, they crack planets for riches, when there are still people on it, and are the first aggressor in the interaction, this may not make them straight up grimdark, but it makes them villainous
>>94393813Craftworld Eldar already exist as a post-scarcity society that is genuinely considerate and thoughtful and empathetic for every citizen, idk why fags are obsessed with turning the GREATER EAST ASIAN CO-PROSPERITY SPHERE, IN SPACE faction into the Federation from Star Trek. CWE have Catholic guilt and inherited Original Sin and elf Jesus being born to redeem them requires everybody dying like Revelations; "Eldar would kill a bunch of humans to protect their own people" is a point in their favor in terms of morality, not a mark against them. It's like saying humans are bad for wiping out mosquitoes and trying to cure malaria.
>>94393836>The Votann would be considered rather reasonable as a species even in fucking StellarisHave you seen the shit that happens in stellaris?>"But they have planet crackers!" is not a serious argument when discussing factions in a science fiction setting with a GALACTIC scaleWhat does that make the Imperium then?>Anyone capable of FTL, orbital bombardment, and interplanetary colonization and terra forming is capable of destroying a populated world.But do they do it on a consistent and profitable basis?
>>94393856>they crack planets for riches, when there are still people on it, and are the first aggressor in the interaction, this may not make them straight up grimdark, but it makes them villainousSo are the Romulans and Ferengi, are we gonna sit here and pretend Star Trek is grimdark?Hell, the Cardassians are worse than the Votann
>>94393701>there's no way a mortal like cawl could improve on the emprahs designs.Emperor had normal human helpers that helped with the space marine project ever since Rogue Trader.It was never solely the Emperor making them.
>>94393818OMG NEW PRODUCT ON THE WAY!!!
>>94393811Are you the same nomodels nogames poster? I couldn't survive here on welfare anon, it just isn't possible
>want to start death wing army>hate how chaplains black armor contrast with the bone colorKinda neat that according to the codex art, death wing chaplains can now be painted bone colored even though historically they were supposed to be black. Thought I'm not sure if this is new updated official lore like death wing bladeguard or its the GW team not knowing their own lore.
>>94393862it's because the edar only care for other eldar while the tau at least try to pretend they're a coalition of alien races
>>94393877this but unironically
>>94393866"The East India company, but in space and manlets" is not terribly grimdark..if anything the rational, detached callous, capitalistic motivation behind cracking planets simply because it makes green line go up faster than dealing with the inhabitants normally makes them the opposite of grimdark: that's an entirely realistic and mundane sort of evil you encounter in the real world."Grimdark" shit is irrational, over the top, exaggerated, and by no means is supposed to make sense or be "reasonable". Killing an entire planet's population because you want to build a gigantic throne literally made out of their fucking skulls visible from space so a giant bat winged daemon can sit on it like a pimp throne is grimdark, not LOL SPACE COLONIALISM.
>>94393877I was like this when they revealed the new tsnkbustas desu
>>94393868Did you also know they partake in terrorism?
>>94393887Bro just paint whatever the fuck you want. I had seen apothecary, techmarine, librarian paint their armor the chapter's color in lore.
>>94393898>entirely realistic and mundane sort of evil you encounter in the real worldIt's grimdark by sheer scale. Fracking planets is not realistic.
>>94393874Well then at least have more lore about the old marines being sent to unimaginable fates on suicide missions to make room for the asstarts or something. There was definitely a golden opportunity for gw to right some cool grimdark lore there.
>>94393898>capitalistic motivation behind cracking planets simply because it makes green line go up faster than dealing with the inhabitants normally makes them the opposite of grimdark: that's an entirely realistic and mundane sort of evil you encounter in the real world.only if you're a soulless corporate bootlicker
>>94393898>The East India company, but in spacethat's RTs tho
>>94393887special roles in a chapter have always been allowed to be painted a bit differently from what the most strick adherence to the codex astartes would suggest
>>94393898>that's an entirely realistic and mundane sort of evil you encounter in the real worldA lot of what the imperium consists of is mudane evils scaled up by a fuckton.>"Grimdark" shit is irrationalIt doesn’t have to be irrational.>over the top, exaggerated, and by no means is supposed to make sense or be "reasonable"Doesn’t have to be any of this either.
>>94393890>the tau at least try to pretend they're a coalition of alien racesI mean, so did Imperial Japan, the parallels are not remotely subtle and are literally beating you over the head like a brick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_SphereIt's why people saying they're commies are so dumb, the Tau aren't space commies, they're the guys who do space Nanking on space commies. The closest to "workers owning the means of production" would be the brief period between a Genestealer Cult's takeover of the planet and a Hive Fleet's arrival, since at that point everyone is still connected by the Broodmind communal psychic link and is able to hold hands and sing kumbaya while dreaming of a brighter future and Day of Ascension
>>94393916Correct. They are more like 21st century mega corps rather than the east India company
>>94393928As an addition to your post, the Imperium fighting in the Damocles Gulf and then setting fire to it after they lose also wasn't subtle.
>>94393887I mean it's fine. The UM apothecary dude in The Tithe has his armor painted blue.
>>94393933I'm sure the AI has a completely salient reason for amassing all those resources beyond something more human like having autism and having no thoughts or feelings beyond wanting to make the number go up or amassing wealth to spend on cool fun stuff like yachts.
>>94393909>Well then at least have more lore about the old marines being sent to unimaginable fates on suicide missionsDon't need to because that's 90% of their stories or major lore happenings anyway.Like fucking Crimson Fists are suffering from the Last Stand autism like every other week.Also there is largely no reason to do so anyway, the whole point of the primaris is just bring a new generation of marines into the chapter's fold, taking all the old marines and just killing them is fucking stupid from both a narrative sense as well as meta sense.>There was definitely a golden opportunity for gw to right some cool grimdark lore there.No real point to add any. And seeing all the god awful, dumb shit ideas that I've seen people come up with to "fix" primaris just makes me glad GW never listens to the fanbase, because people are autistically retarded.Nevermind that half of the fucking supposed "fixes" are already mentioned within the books themselves, and people are just reinvented the wheel without realizing it.
>>94393919>>94393950And largely it doesn' really matter as long the model looks recognizable as an apothecary/chaplain/techmarine at a glance.
>>94393951No, the Votann are all senile because they haven't been restarted or formatted in 10,000 years, and the Squats are all retards who waste hard drive space by uploading their brains into them after death despite containing nothing of value in their memories, so they just turn into racist eccentrics like a Microsoft chatbot told to learn from Twitter
>>94393951>I'm sure the AI has a completely salient reason for amassing all those resourcesThe problem isn’t what they’re doing with the resources they’re given. That’s already been shown. Anything they produce is higher quality than what most people in the galaxy could make. And their knowledge is still highly valued and they form a integral part of the kins society.The real problem is why they’re slowing down and being “strange”.
>TQI put a lot of effort in my dudes currently Im working on making a bunch of rites and celebrations and armor configs. Also since I try my best not to conflict with major lore and canon I have to make homebrew for factions I don't even play granted I don't put as much effort in those.
>>94393977They may actually have a spiritual problem as well as a technical problem. Not saying full blown worship, just that they might need some assistance from more undimmed souls.
give me your most abusive 3 units min list for a 500 point tournament im going to attend
>>94394004Two Leman Russ Demolishers+chaff of choice
My metal bloodthirster finally arrived. What sort of material would be best to make a kind of diorama type 3d base? I was thinking of putting it on its OG 40mm base but have a larger snowy mountain side base with trees and shit sculpted to the size of the oval biker base used by the modern mini that I can attach and remove with magnets. It would also help make it closer to the height of the plastic mini to ward off WAACfags.
>>94394004>500 point tournament
>>94393919yeah, even in mostly codex compliant chapters they may just paint their shoulder pad or helmet in the special colour rather than the whole armoror just run a chapter that doesnt care about that and goes with whatever colours they want
...Still waiting on those genetically engineered, big-titty, big-booty battle prostitutes.
>>94393772>and where[sic] space Egyptian clothing
>>94394004kult of speed orkswarboss with the upgrade that lets them charge out of a moving transport10 nobzbattlewagonI dont know if it'd actually be good but it'd be fast
>>94394004Really depends on the format, are they gonna try to actually use the current mission pack with lists that small? Why aren't they playing Boarding Action which is actually made for 500 point small scale games?30 crusaders plus a Captain for free strats is probably more MEQ bodies than most lists will be able to chew through in five battle rounds, everybody having OC2 means you can just stand on objectives and win. You could also bring Parasite of Mortrex plus 70 gaunts in Unending Swarm. I don't really see how you deal with that in only five battle rounds especially if the tournament doesn't ban Reinforcements strats
>>94394004
>>9439400499 gretchin and a megaboss
>>94394074• 1745 BRIEFING• 1800 – 1900 ROUND 1: TAKE AND HOLD // MARKED FOR DEATH• 1900 BREAK (15 MINS)• 1915 – 2015 ROUND 2: TAKE AND HOLD // ESTABLISH LOCUS• 2015 BREAK (15 MINS)• 2030 - 2130 ROUND 3: TAKE AND HOLD // STORM HOSTILE• 2145 AWARD CEREMONY: 1ST PLACE & BEST PAINTEDsecondary mission cards are being used its on 30x44 boards
>>94394066>>94394004Another idea for Kult of Speed, assuming you're playing on a small boardWartrike Rush>3x Deffkilla Wartrike>3x 3 Warbikers (nob with PK)>1x GretchinHere's what you do:>Call Waaagh! turn 1>Wartikes auto-advance 6" for an 18" advance+shoot+charge>Get proppaly stuck in turn 1>Profit
Reminder Eldar dreadnoughts are badass.I hope there is some kind of cool support for a wraith host army.Any guesses based on other books that have released? I guess orks have a detachment for dreadnoughts?
>>94394122I love wraithguard
What unit does your opponent play that makes you do this?
>>9439400410 aberrants with an abominant entering though rapid ingress and 2 ridgerunners, one with spotter mortar and one with spotter missiles.
>>94394122>Reminder Eldar dreadnoughts are assftfy
>>94394122>I guess orks have a detachment for dreadnoughts?they do, pretty fun tooI would have to assume eldar get a wraith oriented one
>>94394116>take and holdyeah just bring 70 gaunts and flood the board
>>94393772>But now they all have feefeesWrong, only the phaeron/necron lords do.All lesser forms like basic warriors are still mindless automatons that only exist to do whatever the lord says.>and aren't even insane and where space Egyptian clothing.Necrons have always been egyptians barring the time when they were "chaos androids" which GW quickly retconned.
>>94394122Index Detachment Iyanden/Wraith Detachment Samhainn/Bikes Detachment Mechdar/vehicle spam detachment Depending on how they want to handle Ynnari, they could either keep the current rules where bringing allied DE is tied to her character model and bringing her as Warlord, or they could make an entire Ynnari detachment with the same 1k points of DE benefit plus benefits when shit dies
>>94394162Yeah they are kind of mid combat wise but I still find them fluffy and fun to use, sometimes they can get lucky and spike really big if you land all the hits in melee. Also quite durable especially if you throw a fortune on them, and avoids anti-vehicle from my buddy's thunderkyn.Model-wise, I might be biased but I love how diverse I was able to make my three despite the sprue frame being so sparse, someone with a little bit of creativity can really make the kit shine though it definitely falls flat when assembled by non-creatives who make it stand like a toddler in a doorway
>>94392968MOLD LINESI SCRATCH ALL OF THEM OFF BUT WHEN I PRIME I SEE TJEM
>>94393199Theyre just close friends....
Hey anons, I come to ask for non-canon paint jobs. I remember an anon posted a red Ghazghkull some time ago. Any more like that?Here's my ceramic Stormlord.
>>94393266Kills kitbashing opportinities for csm players
>>94393887>>94393919>>94393970Ork homebrew:>so yeah, my evil sunz are blue and yellow because they decided lightning is faster than fire>neat! mine have red skin because they're a splinter WAAAAAGH from Tuska's warband that have been vomited back out into realspaceSpace marine homebrew:>my Primaris Cumharvestor has white armor with red trim instead of white armor with blue trim, please don't lynch me!>fine, but only because you didn't say anything about my Skeletronicus being painted bone instead of blackWhat causes this autism disparity?
>>94394184>Wrong, only the phaeron/necron lords doWrong, any command unit (ie. cryptek/royal warden/necron, lokhust, skorpekh lords and higher) get a consciousness
>>94394220I painted up a few necrons for fun a while back, I liked this scheme on theme
>>94393769My job is essential too and i work 12 hours... i just want to finish my world eaters.....
>>94394220Ah, the PaintTooThickhan dynasty
>>94393862What are dark eldar? Pro LGBT churchs?
>>94393877yesironically excited for new DKOKsorry your faggy Dark Aeldari never gets updated, loser
>>94394255We can be JUST togetherI respect someone that also plays a melee army
>>94394272Based and melee pilledWhich detachment of boyz? Do any kitbashing?
>>94394261If CWE are catholic guilt, then DE are one of the fun splinter faiths like Messalians
Why are religious orgs always the bad guys in games bros...I work at a church and we just do charity all the time we dont rape kids....
>>94394261Modern day liberals.
>>94394224>What causes this autism disparity?GW has successfully tricked marine paypigs into treating the game like it's an IRL historical wargame, where grognards will scoff if your Napoleonic infantryman don't have period appropriate moustaches and heraldry. They rivet-count and treat Black Library slop with the same MUH HISTORICAL ACCURACY reverence that somebody making a set piece battle for the Battle of the Bulge is expected to, despite the company's own clear irreverence for the material and running on Rule of Cool.People who don't play space marines don't fall into that retarded pitfall because they're not being milked like cattle. Your subfaction is a paint scheme, not an entire separate codex, and playing as a custom force is the default expectation
>>94394286Working on green tide atm. Just received the last of the boyz in the mail today. It's mostly grey instead of green atm but once I start mass painting everything hopefully I can get it done soon. Not many kitbashes atm apart from a scratch built trukk
>>94394256Yes. I know they are but fuck it. I'll be playing their first game this weekend.
>>94394305t. George Pell
>>94394305Because they are. That in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>>94394004Monolith and Imotekh.
>>94392815Maybe a base builder that leans a little into CoH-style fortifications and defenses.
>>94394314Have fun anon, Necrons are fun and allow for a very diverse playstyle.
>>943943323 units minimum retard read
>>94394362Monolith, Flayed Ones, Scarabs then.
>>94394314Did they wake up at the Tomb World Leandrank?
>>94393887>>94393950>>94394224>>94394310Actually the UM Apothecary follows and extremely old RT painting guide that shows off the various ways of painting an apothecary.
Just finished painting this inquisition mystic
>>94394305Christian church lost its' edge, they don't burn people to death for saying bad things about them.
>>94394377Go home son. If that is what the scheme brought to mind, you are to innocent for this place.
>>94394398Thanks doc
>>94394385For example this is a white scar I did, this was based on an RT scheme where their apothecaries are red to stand out.
>>94394398to be fair, thats a different palette
>>94394224Xenos are a fake faction so you can make whatever fiction you want for them since it doesn't matter. They literally exist to give Space marines something to beat up. Space marines are a real faction where the entire point of the 40k ip is to explore space marines triumph, history, culture and lore, be it loyalist or traitor. The eternal conflict between good and evil for the destiny of man kind is the main point or the story.
this is the golden age for warhammer battle reports if you play 10th editionbad times for everyone who want that 3-6th content
>>94394411>They literally exist to give Space marines something to beat up.I can't believe I'm finding myself agreeing with an Erebusposter.Orks and Nids are especially notable for just being an enemy that's around for Marines to fight. At least Necrons (now) have motive and intent.
>>94394408Here’s an old salamander apothecary scene
Why are so many of the newer sculpts so difficult to paint when fully assembled? way too many nooks and crannies and barely reachable spaces. This would be fine if the boxes came with instructions for subassembly, but none of them do. Doesn't this scare of new people?
>>94394314exactly >oooooh noo ur paint is too thickerino who gives a fuck. they look good on the table. I painted them and it made me happy to do sopaint skill is abused on this forum so spergs can feel superior about their toy mens
>>94394413Feels bad anon. 10th ed is so cluttered. I'm not a fan of abilities. It's too much.
>>94394162Easily one of the most posable “large” models in the game.
>>94394224the ork way is basically what Rouge Trader and a lesser extent 2nd Ed was. I assume the story behind the models shown in 'Eavy metal showcase in the books were something like:>my noise marine has a electric guitar and leopard skin groin armour.>My other slaanesh marine has a dinosaur head and he's fist pumping because of his cool teal armour. Also his banner is a punk rock daemonette wearing studded latex with her boooobies hanging out. >my Tzeentch marine has a head for a torso and a torso for a head I call him sniper's dilemma >My world eater has cool skull helmet and he has a chainsword for a tail. He's black and gold with a red backpack. I'm going to call him Skullface Bloodlicker>My nurglesque marine (for he calls himself that) is made entirely of diseased tentacles except his vertically stacked stormbolter arm and his cloven hooves.
>>94394310and people wonder why this general is so fucking dead when regulars like this guy cry at anything
Every "-1 to wound when strength is higher" should be changed to "-1 to wound" because it's easier to say
>>94394454The word rogue has truly always been the biggest retard filter.
>>94394390very very nice anon, love it
>no news, nothing 40k related, nothing to talk aboutThis fucking game sucks.
>>94394468>game
>>94394468>no models>no talk about hobbying atrocious
>>9439446840k has never been in a better state they said
>>94394468Nobody tell this guy about the time before the warcom site existed and we waited years for news
>>94394460It's the former so it doesn't get oppressive into weaker weapons
>>94394458This general is dead because GW literally announced several weeks ago that absolutely nothing new for 40k would release for the entire rest of 2024 with a Roadmap all but saying "go play something else"it's not dead because of people rightfully dunking on rivet counting marine fags. If anything, that sort of behavior drives people away from the game when Little Timmy shows up with his space men and is screamed at for not having the proper Company markings or armor marks, HH fags literally give themselves conniptions over that shit. Meanwhile, you show up with Orks and they're fucking Orks. No questions asked. Nobody is gonna shit down your neck over spray painting your Necrons a different color than silver, either.
>>94394479You mean when you had to walk to the GW store to ask the clerk for any news or you had to get an expensive white dwarf subscription?
>>94394481But bro, next month is the new update
>>94394479>waited yearsI wouldn't know, I bought the WDs
>>94394440its used to be so easy and funno idea how this is something to be marketed to preteens and teenagers on this day and age is beyond me
>>94394468>>94394471>>94394472>>94394477>>94394479The Votann novel is coming out in less than 5 hours. There will be plenty to talk about this week.
>>94394491>But bro, next month is the new updatenext month is also the end of 2024
>>94394481>rivet countingwhat mean this? armor patterns?
>>94394508hes just a mad faggot thats it, hes mad people actually put in effort and time into painting schemes
>>94394507There's actually 12 months in a year
>>94394505I know exactly 1 (one) person that has a Votann army and it's barely 1500 points and she never plays them.
>>94394505I don't even want to shitpost about it
>>94394505Is anyone actually going to buy it and post it here?
>>94394523Youll only get a synopsis made by a guy who hates black library but knows everything about their newest releases
>>94394508It's a term originally from model train autists (an even older hobby than wargaming) that has later been used to refer to the same behavior in wargames, especially historicalshttps://rrmodelcraftsman.com/counterpoint-to-counting-rivets>The term “rivet counting,” as used by model railroaders, refers to the practice of accurately and completely modeling each and every detail of a prototype down to the last rivet. It is something that some modelers believe is the ultimate objective, even to the point of counting rivets on other people’s models either to congratulate or point out shortcomings.
>>94394505>he reads the bookslol lmao etc...
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>94394528>putting the ultimate effortgood>shoving your nose in other people's hobbyinginstant death
Posting the only other votann appearance that's basically a written catalogue while at the same time giving them zero wins.
>>94394528>an even older hobby than wargamingnigga wargaming is hundreds of years old, it predates the train existing yet alone model trains.
>>94394527>synopsis made by a guy who hates black library but knows everything about their newest releaseswhy is this such a common occurrence here?
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>>94394555Hatred is a strong fuel
>>94394543The moment someone posts his model online, he should accept critique. Posting something and then starting to cry because some autists spot some inaccuracies is facebook boomer tier.
>>94394555They are former lore guys who hate everything about post 7th 40k but have sunk to much time and effort into 40k so they want to know everything to hate on it and making a synopsis that they can vastly overstate the gay shit to ruin the perception of it is easy
anyone else noticed Element Games has gotten a bit shit this year? time was this was the most reliable 3rd party. Nowadays its more like wayland games where i hit preorder or buy when it says its in stock and weeks later its "waiting for stock" after giving them the money. They used to be the most reliable not pulling the usual "take money for stock you dont have and have every order generating a little interest for months, even better if they forget they order" hustle other companies like Firestorm and Wayland are infamous for doing.Anyone else had problems with them lately?
>>94394551>The robust figure threw down a portable atmosphere-thrower globe (with a gracelessness Prae decided to overlook, given the wider stakes) and, with a grunt of measured satisfaction, removed the helmet of its pressure suit to reveal a featureless silver disc beneath, as had been the case with several of the invaders Prae had seen now. I'm confused by this bit.
>>94394527>Youll only get a synopsis made by a guy who hates black library but knows everything about their newest releasesThe guy who makes the synopsises for novels and codex lore here is carnac.He is a gian lorefag who has no true understanding of 40k and and thinks works like some comic book, when in reality all lore is just a "vehicle" to sell more plastic. Literally nothing but a means to an end.
>>94394555You know how people still say Gabe hates primaris even though by the end of that book series hes over it? Yet people still reference his first anti primaris quote like its gospel.
>>94394552>nigga wargaming is hundreds of years oldthe modern incarnation played with little metal and plastic army men is considerably younger. If you wanna pretend 1700s war college simulations with actual maps and paper is the same, then 2,000 year old dioramas of local terrain counts for model trains
>>94394575"Dwarf" removes his atmosphere generator and removes his helmet, revealing himself to be a robot.
Let's say I'm an Imperial scientist and I've managed to lock a daemon in a big glass tube. I sit a chair down in front of it and try talking to it. How would that conversation work? Are they even capable of forming coherent thoughts? Would they just try to seduce/soulrape me the whole time? Would they be able to articulate their life story, if such a thing exists? Daemons get precious little character work in the black library.
>>94394543>shoving your nose in other people's hobbying>instant deathOnly through critique you can get better, if you get constantly praised you never question yourself or your work.If you actually just want battle ready minis and do not care about the final product you just shrug the critique off, if you're actually feeling attacked by the critique it's because you feel the shortcomings.
>>94394528you've reminded me of when I said to my model train making bf when he mentioned combining kits "in 40k we have have the term kitbash" and he just laughed at me and said that term comes from train modelling as i turned red
>>94394597>Daemons get precious little characterThey should get less. Daemons are boring and worst part of the setting as a whole.
>>94394481How was this general reaching 850 posts regularly during a pre 8th era where GW didn’t endlessly churn out information?Dont act like a slump is the reason when we as a fanbase used to never get it
>>94394551I've been meaning to read this, thanks.
>>94394570>>94394598>CritiqueLet's be real for a minute anons, don't try that shit.
Not every army has great choices for infiltrating/ scouting, but it's such a huge advantage and point generator in current 10th. Why make it so important when some armies have shit options for it?
>>94394597Source on the image?
>>94394597Daemons are a plot device to justify humans, Aeldari, and Tau to be evil "ends justify the means" assholes. Nothing more. They are a nuisance that demands innocents be slaughtered to root out the few bad apples trying to summon them.
>>94394597>Are they even capable of forming coherent thoughts? Yes, if they're not a bestial daemon like a flesh hound>Would they just try to seduce/soulrape me the whole time?Likely; just depends on the particular daemon>Would they be able to articulate their life story, if such a thing exists?Yes, but they could lie to just to fuck with youThere's a bit in Lords of Silence where a Death Guard scientist has a Tzeentch daemon locked up like that; it insults and hates him but is literally incapable of not checking his math when he raises it up to the glass
>>94394501It's like playing a fucking card game now. I expect them to start selling faction based loot boxes where you get random kits with a chance the a primarch or something.>go to GW>buy random space marine box>hunting for Guilliman>get tactical squad for 6th time
>>94394592No wait, it *deploys* the atmosphere generator and removes his helmet.Does this mean dwarf robots need air?
>>94394619>How was this general reaching 850 posts regularly during a pre 8th era where GW didn’t endlessly churn out information?Because /tg/ wasn't a dead board walking back then.
>>94394628>oh noes, my models have been called flat>oh noes, my models have been called thickly painted>how will I ever survive this
>>94394619This general is full of newfags who took over at this point they need endless fucking news and act like a single week means 40k is DEAD!!!!Its clear they only play 40k they would die with other games
>>94394645I said don't try that shit
>>94394643Holy fuck this is GRIM
>>94394649Or else?
>>94394642It's possible that ironkin are designed to use oxygen to function since they're meant to be *just* like the squats. Alternatively, he did it because the sound waves from his speech wouldn't travel without atmosphere.
>>94394643DEAD BOARD WALKINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcX_oVsQ_4
>>94394655Or else I'll stop taking you seriously, or rather will take you even less seriously.I dunno man, you posted, so I can critique your posting, how else will you improve? :^)
>>94394597The tube would need some fancy wards or a bound host for the Daemon to keep it stuck in the materium, but yes, you could meaningfully converse with the Daemon. Its thoughts can be coherent with some effort on it's own part, though it's life story would be a fever dream of poetry given their non-linear perception of time, and soul-seduction would likely be a constant veiled motivation.
>>94394597...so is the Tau Daemon Goddess super weak and therefore fodder to be bullied and violated by most other Warp Entities? Could enough human psykers potentially gaslight her into becoming a "living saint" for the Imperium?
>>94394664That's a very fair point, however, I will meet you in 1 hour at the LGS and we will throw some dice, loser has to pay for snacks
>>94394659>the sound waves from his speech wouldn't travel without atmosphere.That's very cool if intended, would explain why the dwarf starts out using a christmas lights harness to communicate.
>>94394666No. Phil Kelly pretty much said that she is as strong as Slanesh was during the dawn of the Aeldari Empire. She is very potent despite being technically not born yet.
>>94394672Fuck off I'm starting to like you
>>94394411uh oh marinetranny meltie!
>>94394575I'm completely out of the loop with the context, but I'm reading it as a votann throwing a pokeball that creates a breathable environment, only to reveal that it's an ironkin that doesn't actually need to breath so it's either doing it for other votann or it's doing it because the ironkin still act as if they were completely interchangeable with the flesh and blood kyn, meaning they would create breathable environments out of some sort of habit or autism anyway am I reading it correctly?
>>94394460We had that with nobz but they fuckin nerfed it
>>94394675That's dumb, tau auxiliaries over a millennium shouldn't be able to match the whole psychic Eldar empire fucking about for millions of years.
>>94394630who doesnt have options for it?
>>94394690TimeWarpDon't mix.
>>94394597>How would that conversation work?however you, the writer, want, down to the possibility of the demon playing with its interlocutor to actually break the fourth wall and subtly address the reader instead
>>94394675Wait the T'AU are getting a god?This is retarded
>>94394696It's unironically because the Tau have started adopting Humans and those started praying to the Greater Good.
>>94394640>Complaining about problems that don't existAhh yeah that's my 40kg
>>94394685Probably either the second or to have sound carry over, as he's just called light based communication stupid.
>>94394597I never considered that drawing might be of the Tau warp god. Very cool
>>94394597They'd lie to you and you will not know when the lying begins nor where it endsYou're already fucked and you don't even know it, since you think you're in control
>>94394640i dont really need a forced minigame to play on top of my tabletop game making something more complicated does not necessarily mean its better or more fun
>>94394696It's just one BL author's pet plot thread, it will never go anywhere.
>>94394698Alright, this is extra retardedThe whole "if enough praying then god happens" thing is stupidThis also attacks the eldar empire myth by showing they might not be as turbo depraved as they were
>>94394705Then don't use the GT pack?
When do the battleforce Christmas boxes typically become available for pre order?I don't see them on the GW site
>>94394696the tau aren't, the auxiliaries are, because they have a significant warp signature unlike the tau and they're treating the greater good as a religion rather than a philosophy.the three reactions of actual tau to this entity are:-absolute revulsion to what's a mockery of their ideals brought forth by sick beings that are going to doom everyone (tau of the 4th sphere expansion, now racist)-"it didn't happen, you saw nothing, shut up, go away and never speak again" (the ethereals who are covering up the disaster in the 4th sphere expansion)-"this makes no sense, but if it's benevolent and useful we might as well use it for now" (shadowsun as she discovered the potentially useful influence of praying auxiliaries against demons and chaos)the imperial infantryman' primer was proven correct once again
>>94394709>Warhammer 4No. It's referenced in codexes and was expanded on in novels. The Goddess is the reason why the Death Guard invasion was defeated.The guy writing both sources is a main narrative writer at GW studio who adopted the T'au as his child faction.
>>94394718Nigga the abilities are part of the datasheets
>>94394723My LGS is doing a midnight release for them tonight.
>AvatarfaggingOpinion discarded.
>>94394690>That's dumb, tau auxiliaries over a millennium shouldn't be able to match the whole psychic Eldar empire fucking about for millions of years.You forget this is a turbo human-wank setting and MUH HUMANS SO SPECIAL AND GREAT that in just a few centuries after joining the Tau they've already made a snowflake goddess who's equal to Slaanesh is entirely on brand for GW
>>94394723which one are you getting cutie
>>94394727Not my fault you're vague posting and I assumed the "mini game" was drawing cards rather than the retarded use of it to describe units having abilities
>>94394741Equal to Slaanesh during the dawn of the Aeldari Empire, meaning when Slaaneah was baby, not Slaanesh when he is a full-fledged god of Chaos
>>94394750except "Hehe time works weird in the Warp :^)" so it doesn't matter that something is weak or a baby, because once it becomes an adult it retroactively goes back in time and is as strong as it always was. Phil Kelly will get drunk and write mommy Tau fistfighting Slaanesh and handing the last Cronesword to Shadowsun and I wouldn't even blink
>>94394643>>94394647The reason why these threads are so low in activaty and the reason why they are so shit most of the time with retards shitposting and just being annoying are 3 fold.>the custodes codex revealed female custodes exist, the tithe episode 100% confirming and cementing thatThis brought all of the culture warriors out of the woodwork and also attracted bunch of them to here.Also it has triggered bunch of people when some of the model posters who play this game, said they don't give a shit. Which pissed off the anti-femstodes crowd.>SM2 releasingWhich brought in /v/ermin and the newfags who have zero understanding of the lore or have a very poor understanding>discord serversWe have a multiple confirmations of a discord server that specifically exists to raid these /40kg/ threads, and they intentionally go out of their way to raid and fuck up 40k threads both in & out of /tg/, and they all do it only because they hate 40k and are butthurt over itThose are the reasons.That's why these threads are fucking god awful now and this place will be god awful a for a long time to come.Can this ever be fixed? I don't know, only advice I can give you is the old addage "don't feed the trolls". But it is up to you to follow it.
>>94394411Unfathomably TRVE and BASED.
>>94394726Not really, the spare page-space filler paragraphs of a war between the death guard and tau does not count as having gone somewhere. Moreover, she only acted to blunt an attack. Acting to maintain a status quo is worth less than having never acted at all.
>>94394690gods have worked like that since realm of chaos was writtenbesides there are possible reasons why this is happening so fast while it took so long for the eldar>the veil of reality in the 41st millennium is fucked sideways and torn in multiple places, so it's much easier for warp shit to manifest>the eldar were deeply attuned to the warp and had a much greater control of it until it spiralled out of hand only at the end>the god is not of the tau, but of plenty of other alien races, much older than the tau and now potentially channeling their racial apotheosis into this rather than what they would have otherwise moved independently, and much slower, towards and this entity is not technically born yet, just acting to a degree back in time, slaanesh was able to do it way more effectively millions of years ahead of its birth, this may mean that the greater good's actual birth is either astronomically distant still or outright something that might happen but ultimately will not.>that's nonsensical welcome to chaos, pick another point of discussion if you don't get it/don't want to get it.
>>94394710>Alright, this is extra retarded>The whole "if enough praying then god happens" thing is stupidIt's not, it's exactly as to how the Warp and the meta physics work in 40k.It has been continuesly being stated that belief is power in 40k and what the mortal races believe is reflected within the Warp.It is exactly how all of the gods were formed.
>>94394767She scared off a majority of the Death Guard fleet and kidnapped a portion of it.Another invading force meant to intercept the fifth sphere disappeared in the Warp. Coincidence? The Death Guard (and possible sisters) she kidnapped will return at some point with a new outlook.
>>94394790no, they won't
>>94394790>She scared off a majority of the Death Guard fleet and kidnapped a portion of it.Would be kind of funny if this is how we get tau space marines in the future.The Greater Good Goddess just "cleanses" removes their corruption and now they are normal marines again. Could be grimdark in that they are specifically brainwashed by the GG Goddess to become tau allies.
>>94394797The novel sets up the Death Guard being trapped by the goddess as a replay of their ordeal in the HH. If she didn't have use for them, she could have easily destroyed them. The Death Guard will be reeducated and brought into the T'au'Va.
Why all this mess of "pivot values"What was wrong with "measure the part of the model that moved the most"
>>94394805(You) Issue
>>94394814no, they won't
>>94394815Nobody ever measured that shit correctly.I've played maybe a handful of people from casual to GT level in the years I've been playing
>>94394811We could easily have had Tau marines for years now by simply saying "The Tau took over a recruitment world, gave the captured gene-seed to gue'vesa kids and swapped the standard indoctrination with Greater Good theme"the reason it hasn't happened is not a lack of feasibility in the fluff, it's because marine pigs would literally have a fucking aneurysm and shit and piss themselves in anger if the Tau were deploying MEQ with pulse rifles instead of bolters.
>>94394814>as a replay of their ordeal in the HH.only in the sense they got stuck in the warp, that's it, if you're reading more into that and think that someday down the line the tau model range will have "purified death guard marines of the greater good goddess", you might as well start taking schizo meds today.
>>94394815putting vehicles on round bases would solve 100% of this nonsense
>>94394850Shut your whore mouth
>>94394811Lmao
>>94394805They kinda made making lists and just rolling dice easier but they completely fucked up choices and strategy in the process
>>94394831>the reason it hasn't happened is not a lack of feasibility in the fluff, it's because marine pigs would literally have a fucking aneurysmI wouldn't, I like marines and think tau marines would be cool.
>>94394847Stuck in the Warp with a goddess who directly talks to them.A bargain will be struck. The Death Guard wouldn't want to endure this pain again. And we already saw from the novel that the goddess can undo Nurgle's corruption.
>>94394853
>>94394850>Haha yeah it's so great my land raider is now on a base ~40% bigger than a great unclean oneSaid nobody, ever
I just spilled a fresh pot of nuln oil when I pushed my brush into the lid
be honest, how often do you bathe your minis?
>>94394850>GW reading this suggestion >realizing they can up the cost of kits since they have to redo the boxes and include a base
>>94394815>If it moves in a straight line you get this much move>If you turn you move this much movewhat the fuck is so hard
Do tanks have like, firing arcs and stuffCan a Vindicator shoot something behind it?
>>94394831the tau wouldn't use geneseed because the process is grimdark™ and way too deadly the only option for tau marines is to have renegades to the imperium that aligned themselves with the tau but otherwise exist and act independentlyand that's not only lame and gay but would also make way more sense to happen in the idealistic farsight enclaves because the ethereals of the tau empire would be control freaks and dismantle the marine chapter or drive it away because it would represent a potentially explosive rogue agent within their territory
>>94394879drink it before it goes
>>94394879YES YES Congratulations anon. You have just experienced a canon event
>tfw convinced that the second hand minis I bought are coated in enamel paintI'm guessing the only way I can get this shit off is by using a solvent that's going to destroy the minis anyway?
>>94394896What the fuck why does this actually taste good
>>94392630>literally making the same post hundreds of times over the course of more than ten years
>>94394895>the tau wouldn't use geneseed because the process is grimdark™ and way too deadlyThis is bullshit nonsense, the Tau are fine with Kroot eating each other and even occasionally devolving into barely sentient beasts. They wouldn't give a shit about Gue'Vesa aspirants being fed into the woodchipper, Fire Caste training is also harsh even if not the same degree of lethal
>>94394894Do you see firing arcs in the core rules?
>>94394866nothing like that will happenand "his mind came apart", they died, end of the story
>>94394879I've spilt a few pots so far due to being a clumsy individual, mostly contrast paints
>>94394895iirc, some marines can be "reasonable" when working with xenos, but the tau tried to convert a space marine once and that didn't work at all, space marine basically raged so hard he fucking died mad, it's why even though they are corrupted by chaos no space marines hate xenos more than traitor legions
>>94394919That's nonsense.There are examples of Genestealer-controlled Space Marines in the lore.
>>94394777>nonsensicalIt's not that, it's just a bit shit.
>>94394908the kroots' cannibalistic practices are nowhere close to the idea of sacrificing dozens of children to possibly raise one supersoldier, and the kroots don't devolve into hounds or krootoxes on a daily basis, they're lineages that split a long time ago.fire caste training isn't lethal and the tau have such a strict outlook regarding the safety of their troops that the rail rifle isn't deployed en masse only because of a laughable percentage of higher risks while using it.the tau are incompatible with the grimdark of uplifting via geneseed and are not capable of perfecting it so it's safe because they don't have the blend of genetic sciences and psychic sciences that were necessary for it and other supersoldier methods the imperium uses
>>94394745Dark Angels bwo
>>94394889>So long as you don't have a round base>Unless it's also a flying base>and oval bases are sort of inbetwee>but only if they're vehicles or monsters>If charging around a corner this Leman Russ either loses a set amount of distance or charges while remaning perfectly oriented, which still loses some distance, making for a shorter charge>But this drukhari vehicle gains distance because even with the 2 inch tax you stick out so much you can make up with positioningYeah, annoying.
>>94394928and in older books the geneseed rejects it and marines just diewelcome to GW occasionally hiring fucking morons that don't know the lore and how we end up with female custodes that everyone has already ignored as non-canon
>>94394919>no space marines hate xenos more than traitor legionsthat's headcanon from the loyalist in denials that pretend to be chaos fans.
Hear me out, GW>New Primaris Drop Pods>comes with a little model on the side as a homing beacon ala Termies>Homing Beacon can be given to any squad>Grants 3inch deepstrike to the Drop Pod in a 12 inch radius around the homing beacon, or 9 inch deepstrike without it>Dreadnought Drop Pod version that allows for charges out of them so you can throw Brutalis at people
New https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/9437310094373100>>94373100
>>943949601/4 of them are literally cocksleeves for an explicitly Eldar god lmao, Slaanesh is a racial deity with a bloodline claim on every single elf soul. Fulgrim runs around with a Laser Xeno blade
>>94394970retard
>>94393836I agree with this anon. The rational thing to do would be to grind random planets into royal wine. Yummy yummy psychic purple juice.
>>94394970That thread should've been deleted days ago.We're not going to your shit thread (early) when that thread doesn't even have a proper OP.
>>94393898The East Indies Trading Company did some massively fucked up things. And mundane horrors can be no less terrifying. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealismInducedHorror is a trope for good reason.
>>94394944>Tau are incompatible They are incompatible with the setting itself. By acknowledging their existence you cannot deny the fact GW can have the Tau do whatever they want "lore" be damned. Tau were already retconned to be "more grimdark" with Ethereals using mind control on all those below them in station. If such a fundamental change can be made then anything is fair game. The only thing I disagree with is their "Warp Goddess" being from the future and so powerful because that can only presume Tau have a future where they become on par with the Imperium in terms of psyker population.
>>94394963>Dreadnought Drop Pod version that allows for charges out of them so you can throw Brutalis at peopleI approve of this.
>>94394692Votaan have one expensive unwieldy 10 man option, same with orks except for an additional lone operative character that had his points jump up .
>>94394949It is honestly still more simple than the previous method if you were actually doing it rules as written
>>94393898I once did a horror setting which was a copy of another horror setting but sexual for extra horror. The scariest parts of that setting are the parts made applicable to real life. A ghost trying to rape you or a rapist getting his anus destroyed by a bigger rapist is scary but discovering a cult turned into a human trafficking operation was way worse. The former two are rare IRL. Large scale human trafficking happens and is so horrifying that it ended up being scarier than any of the supernatural horrors.
>>94395014>Votaan have one expensive unwieldy 10 man optionah yes, the scouts that were so expensive and unwieldy they just had to bump them up 10 points because people were taking 20-30 of them and going 6-0. unwieldy. expensive.
>>94394946have fun , i hope you can get it :)
>>94395014They're 90pts my guy. With a reactive move and for some reason AP2 melee
Holy fuck am I done with Dan Abnett. I thought that my pneumonia sick leave would be improved through rawdogging Eisenhorn. Having read Gaunt's Ghosts I expected the trilogy to have abrupt endings. But this?? The bald cunt just edged a weeks straight. Yeah let's world build for 300 pages before resolving fuck all. Repeat thrice.
>>94394779It's retarded
>>94395208Is this why the Darktide writing sucks?
>>94394863If they also started having Eldar and Ork and Tyranid greater good auxiliaries it would be funny and everyone unironically hates the tau and tau players already so no issue there.
>>94395223The reject banter is fine. The plot is just nothing.
>>94394949Wasn't Drukhari vehicles getting 3-5" of free movement on pivot why they changed it to begin with?
>>94395223Darktide doesn't have a story with events that happen in a specific order. Each mission can only be treated as its own narrative, rather than contributing to a larger one.
>>94395229yes, and now everyone has to suffer.
>>94395223Today I learn why Darktide story sucks.
>>94394963>dread drop podsThis is very cool, I hope GW does add that into the rules if they ever update the drop pod.
>>94394894Even individual models used to all have only 45 degree firing arcs and yes it was better but it was also a cluster fuck and still abusable by grogs so now we just pretend and its porbably better.
Will I ever need a second 5m squad of Infiltrators or should I make them Incursors instead?
>>94395226They read the wiki half the time
>>94395241That is unporpable
>>94395225>If they also started having Eldar and Ork and Tyranid greater good auxiliaries>eldarJust exodites/CWE who have become entangled with the tau empire, who is manipulating who in that relationship, no one knows.>orksJust orks who the tau have sawn fit to chuck at their enemies. Tau didn't ask for them, the orks showed up anyway offering their services as mercenaries.>tyranidsJust take any of the biomorphs and implant them with mechanical mind control devices (tau already have this tech) and sever the synaptic connection.Better yet, over power a synapse creature like a hive tyrant and subject that thing to mind control device surgery and sever the hivemind connection permanently.
>>94395244Most people can't tell the difference between them anyways. Build them as whichever you like more and run them as either
>>94395225>everyone unironically hates the tauuh oh marinetranny meltie!
if we ignore the existence of Goto, who is the worst Black Library author?
>>94395283Thorpe.
>>94395283gav writing eldar
>>94395283Mike Brooks
>>94394919>no space marines hate xenos more than traitor legionsRed Corsairs actively worked with chaos xenos to fuck up the imperium thobeightawl. It's how he stole Guilliman's ship.
>>94395237Darktide story sucks because there is no story. You're just some nobody with little to no background doing worthless nothingness. I get barked at by random officials that barely got introduced and then queue up to go do missions with little to no narrative. Good gameplay and decent visual design, but absolutely lacking everywhere else. That game really does not incentivize you to play it outside of a couple of hours worth
>>94395223Abnett is just the dude who created the background fluff for Darktide and probably some of the player class banter.The reason why the Darktide story sucks/is bland is because there is barely any actual story there at all.Darktide's story is more like a group of disconnected cutscenes that all kinda form a timeline/set of events as to what is happening on Atoma or within Grendyl's warband.ObeseMegalodon did just recently finish their PS5 port, so it's likely that they will now start to focus on the game more properly and there'll be more content to come, both maps, missions, story, etc.Which isn't surprising considering that IS the Fatshark cycle for games.Release game half baked with decent gameplay > fuck around for some time fixing issues and making some content > finish couple of ports > start focusing on making the game good.That's basically how it goes for them.
>>94395286>>94395288fuck, I forgot about that dudehow do you write eldar books and make them lose in the end and get owned by children with rocks>>94395290y'al'd've should remember they were loyalists not too long ago
>>94395303>Swedish Fish devs >producing content lol, lmao.
>>94395296The whole rejects thing is dumb, or a soulless decision to better support micro transactions. Shoulda had actual characters based mid level human troops in line with Vermintide: SoB, Scion, Skitarii, and ogryn can stay.
>>94395283Gav writing eldar.ADB writing gay fanfiction (his night lords trilogy is cool though)Abnett writing Erda.
>>94394919>it's why even though they are corrupted by chaos no space marines hate xenos more than traitor legionsNever ask a woman her age, or Abbadon's right-hand man who his "employee" was in M31.
>>94395310You'd have a point if this wasn't specifically Fatshark we are talking about.Both Vermintide 1 and Vermintide 2 released pretty much in exact same manner as Darktide and it went exactly the same for VT 1&2 when it came to content. And fact is both VT 1&2 are great games now.Fatshark is the epitome of "release a game that 1-2 years early and then patch and fix the game as the time goes on.", which I agree is a terrible mentality for a game studio to have.
>>94395322>Abnett writing ErdaAbnett's general Horus Heresy writing past book 15.
Man having a good BL contract must be a fucking gravy train. You just write the hottest garbage filled with cliche and hamfisted asspulls and it will at most receive a mixed reception, since most of the BL readers have zero taste.Easiest writing gig ever I imagine
>>94395357>t.
the fag love for this guy is off the charts, we need to get the trannies out of this hobby
>>94395379But then whoi s going to play the chaos factions?
>>94395357If I ever somehow became a writer for BL, I'd just use it as a platform to write stories about /mydudes/.
>>94393543No it isnt
>>94395379I like his acting, but like how every election year reminds me that famous people are retarded, his army selection confirms it for me
>>94395379>the fag love for this guy is off the chartsThere was none of it in this thread until you posted him.
>>94395398based and wardpilled
>>94395379>I'm a facts-driven Redditor who doesn't fall for CAPITALIST marketing>Gadzoinks! Henry Cavill is hecking based and loves 40k. He is doing this out of the love for my hobby, not money!
>>94395208Remember to read all the novellas and Magos to get edged into the mediocre Bequin trilogy!
>>94393266Because they were an asspull to get marinepiggies/waacfags to quickly buy more marine stuff when GW was bleeding money and on the edge of closing its doors. It is no coincidence that contrast paints came out alongside the Primaris space marines. It was all to appeal to the waacfags as a last ditch effort to stay afloat. It worked and at the cost of it working we got the fluff of marines kind of screwed over and the diversity of power armour patterns done away with. The BL writers also had to put lore bandaids on the primaris like other auxiliary writers had to do to make the Star Wars Prequels seem cooler with extra media content. When you need things like a spin off tv show of decent quality like the Clone Wars to make 3 bad movies seem decent or a big budget video game to make your asspull models look good then you have to accept that they're a mistake.Also primaris space marine arguments are always extra evidence that they never should have happened and GW should have found a different way to save their asses.
Anyone likes ADB specifically for the whole perspective thing? He can pull off a delusional character without making it read too forced in 1st person. No, I flay people and summon demons for my own plans, totally removed from chaotic influence. Autismo observation but I like him.
>>94395427You're 100% right, but fuck you.I like my primaris because they are cool.
>>94395446>insecurity stock photo.jpegcouldn't be fucked to find it cuz everything is .webp when i search it
>>94395427>Primaris buyers>WAACfags what did he mean by this
>>94395446They sure are, lil timmy!
>>94395344They just released the Skaven vs mode for Vermintide 2 even though that game's pretty much dead anyways. I hope they make content for darktide before it's dead though lol I'm already bored of it
>>94395446>>94395455You're welcome to like the primaris space marines. As much as I shat all over them and included the Clone Wars TV show and the Star Wars prequels I can still find things I like about them including the primaris space marines. I think the cawl cylinder is a cool touch to the weapons. Because I've been a sucker for gun cylinders since I learned what a revolver is. They opened the doors for a lot of new stuff to be released as the circumstances essentially forced GW to seemingly go "rule of cool" model releases and plan game mechanics for the models afterwards which I found very nice. And as much as I hate to admit it I can't think of a better more trustworthy company to handle the Warhammer 40k IP better than GW. Anyways if I had the power in me I would have different "primaris patterns" of power armour released to resurrect the firstborn aspect of space marines having some diversity of power armour variants. But ForgeWorld isn't a thing anymore as far as I know so that will most likely never happen.The lore justification would be pretty much the same like how there are many different patterns of lasguns. It could range from material and cost effectiveness from having to cut corners or having the ability to make better power armour to recycling firstborn power armour STCs to fit primaris space marine proportions. And many more reasons that I would leave the BL writers to come up with.
>>94395401Who does he play?
>>94395119>With a reactive move and for some reason AP2 meleeI've pondered whether their melee is actually good, AP2 is attractive but they have shit defensive stats, and at A2 S4 D1 they're still probably only clearing chaff at best unless it's double grudged. Also I feel like you should take the sniper and bottle rocket regardless which makes taking them as a ranged unit more attractive, with their role and defensive stats I feel like the last place they want to be is trapped in a melee fight they can't win.
as someone who mostly collects xenos and barely interacts with the sm/imperium side of the hobby, what is the problem with primaris?
>>94395518Banana boys
>>94395414>Celebrities can't have hobbies or interestsNormally I'd agree with you but Cavill has genuinely liked Warhammer for years. Doubt GW has pockets like that. Still, just because he's famous celebrity guy doesn't mean we should give a fuck about his interests. Celebrities have hobbies too, who cares
Robert Rath and Steve Lyons are the best black library writers and it isn't even close Their books read like actual books, the rest reads like fucking fan fictions
>>94395531His favorite army is Custodes, he has fuck all models and they all look like he started painted last week.
>>94394952>female custodes that everyone has already ignored as non-canonI didn't
>>94395521What the anon above me failed to mention is that a consequence of the Primaris gamble succeeding is that it taught GW that waacfags are the best source of income to GW. It means that balance becomes prioritized above gameplay flavor and even at the cost of it.
>>94395537no one asked
>>94395533You do realise that it's possible for normal people that aren't jaded fucks from 4chan to like guys in cool gold armor, right?>look like he started painted last weekthat I'm curious about actually, you got a picture?
>>94395539does this mean we're going to see a GSC and necron refresh? I highly doubt itwhile it does help james to sell armies that win, iirc knights are some of their best performers and both knights are in the dumpster right now, with IK being able to compete with creative use of the even shittier imperial agents army allies
>>94394981Post models
>>94395531Some believe journalists have to self-censor. This isn't true. The MSM requires self-selection, where only the true believers end up as talking heads. The same is the case in Hollywood. Your very human actor is nothing more than a mask over a philistine striver bereft of all genuine uniqueness and hobbies. I've had the misfortune of working with journos and actors in my early 20s. None of what I'm saying is an exaggeration.
>>94394223How? Primaris have already fallen to Chaos
>>94395521Dumb names and some of the models are retarded looking and their bolters look like shit and they should have come with cool grimdark lore about the squat marines all getting suicided instead of just showing up.
>>94393618They had multiple warcom articles walking it back to a very soft maybe
>>94393551Multiple named characters are dead in Infinity. One even got mindraped by the evil alien faction and turned traitor, but you can still run his pre-mindrape model in his former army just fine. The idea that you can't field a dead named model is absurd and something only 40K seems to have trouble is.
>>94395541For someone who claims to be in the hobby for years and being an all time custodes lover it's weird he'd still be painting custodian wardens
>>94395446People don't have an issue with the idea of new marine sculpts with larger size or even "just" a new armor mark.One look at the overwhelming success of the new CSM range will tell you that there is no opposition to "bigger space marine models", the difference is the new CSM were simply released as is with no retarded BIGGER BATMAN fluff justification.
>>94395513>Because I've been a sucker for gun cylinders since I learned what a revolver is.Revolvers are coolSpinny widgets on ray guns and shit are cool The functionless fidget spinner on the bolter isn't
>>94395579>wtf this millionaire keeps buying plastic models
>>94395579Haven't custards had their points dropped multiple times?
>>94395541On top of that, Cavill only started talking about Warhammer and being into it in 2022, after being "randomly" asked about it in an Interview.Randomly enough, in 2022 Amazon started talking about a Warhammer show.It's all business m8.
>>94395579That's a regular Custodian.
>>94395574Even then it's inconsistent, Macharius was introduced dead because of his Alexander the Great in Space bit and characters like Gaunt's Ghosts should be dead by the time of "modern" 40k but they have pretty recent models.
>>94395603>On top of that, Cavill only started talking about Warhammer and being into it in 2022false, he talked about it in 2011 in the same interview he talked about almost missing his superman audition for a wow raid
>>94392399>no vindicators in any store nearby >cheapest one online is a HH vindicator I can just use this instead right? They're the same goddamn size
Tyranids whose sole purpose is to edge marines to death.
>>94395579bro, we got fags in this general who not only have enormous armies, but their armies are painted like absolute dogshithe can play and paint custards all he wants, they're paintlicker tier just like sigmarines because TMM is unironically a bigger crutch than contrast paints for making a model look presentableI just think people who play the faction are silly because they lack customization and suffer from grey knight syndrome, where every faceless mook who is going to die to a volcano lance is a gigachad who can yolo daemons in fluff and on table is just kind of annoying to kill
>>94395617>TMM is unironically a bigger crutch than contrast paints0/10
>>94395610That was in 2016 and he did not bring up Warhammer. Just Warcraft.The earliest link to Warhammer 40k is 2020, actually, where he talks about painting minis in quarantine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7wp4Rzoafwthis the body language of someone who's comfortable holding minis and standing at a game board?
I wanna read a 40k book that is so bad that it loops back to being readable through being funny. Like the War of the Beast stuff. Should I read Wolftime?
>>94395633>this the body language of someone who's comfortable holding minis and standing at a game board?it's the body language of somebody being careful around other people's overpriced toys you mongoloid
>>94395647>other people's>warhammer world>careful>touches the top of the base
>>94395639Isn't that the one about all the space wolves trying to commit suicide via reckless self-endangerment to summon Ynnead - err, I mean Russ?
>>94395657>you>coping
>>94395661ayo this guy thinks Lujan blew up on social media organically and talks about the military for fun
>>94395579You claim to have been in the hobby twice as long as you have and you’re still a bad painter and don’t own many models.
>>94395626it is, but just like contrast paints and minis intended to use a lot of TMM, while the skill floor is incredibly low for making something look nice the skill ceiling is incredibly high
>>94395647>walk in on your gf's fa/tg/uy husband>manhandle his knight mini>anon on the verge of tears>hey anon why do you play with toys?>anyhow, play in the living room>got some things to do in the bedroom
>>94395579I mean of course it's not a display standard mini or anything but it's not bad at all. I feel like a lot of people here have been painting for a while and are worse than that
>>94395617Uh oh, nomodels melty
>>94395672post your models
Bros. Will 40k codexes ever have visuals as amazing as current ForgeWorld model photos?
>>94395708why can't fw make their models as good as their art then
>>94395677>>94395684bout to drill this dude's barrel and paint him for giggles
>>94395708For some reason the people at FW just have a much stronger understanding of aesthetics in general.
>>94395708>casual nurgle symbols strapped to the elevated roadI see, this is a force of nurgle titans and guard.
>>94395739is this a new shorter version of Primaris?
>>94395739Cool, primaris predessor.
>>94395684I mean he's not exactly wrong, metallic paints look pretty good on their own. Sure you can go absolutely nuts with shading and highlighting them but just a basecoat under a light source will still look decent
>>94395748>Those are barrels>Even if they weren't they're clearly pushing into enemy territory
>>94395739Anon, you're bitching about badly painted armies and then try to prove you're better by posting a single mini from your greytide pride parade?
>>94395532>The Infinite and the Divine>Fall of Cadia>good
>>94395739>white sheet 2 lamp photoshoot for a fucking grey modellol lmao etc..
>>94395585>>94395513I like the lore too.I don't care that they are bigger marines. They are still marines for me.I like the fluff about the firstborn and primaris butting heads.
Has GW fucked up again and uploaded wrong pictures for the Imperial Knights Battleforce?>>94395711
>>94395639I like the part when McWolf said "IT'S WOLFTIME" and then wolfed all over them.
>>94395772>>Those are barrelsShaped liked nurgle symbols.>>Even if they weren't they're clearly pushing into enemy territoryYeah, Imperium is the enemy of chaos, anywhere chaos goes it's in enemy territory.
>>94395789You should let your weird thread die and samefag it less. No one wants to interact with you.
>>94395792Low IQ.
>>94395739This is the kind of person critiquing your ability to paint LOL
>>94395804Nah, it's high IQ.Chaos works in weird esoteric ways, symbols have meaning and intent.It's a 500 IQ move by nurgle cultists to do because no one will ever suspect couple of barrels being a symbol for the cult and representative of Nurgle's influence.It has plausible deniability and everything.This is the reason why Inquisition is paranoid and why they are rooting Chaos out constantly, you cannot never be too careful when it comes to Chaos.
>>94395816Ben, you gotta get over these two already.
>>94395814I feel like at least some of the shitposters here actually own some models but they're too scared to post them when called out cause they're awful
>>94395823DuckDuckGo 'conditions featuring hyperfixation'
>>94395816I really am happy to not actually know why these BL authors are supposed to be bad. I get they're bad writers, but I'll never read anything they write to find out myself.
>>94395829Everyone knows the game you play.If someone posts models the goalposts will simply shift. And your models will never be posted.
>>94395830Nah, you don't get it.People like you are exactly how Chaos starts to fester within hivecites which gives traitors a foothold within the Imperial society so they can subvert and corrupt it from the inside.
>>94395816Aaron loves writing fanfic
>>94395836Look at them.
>>94395829I post my shitty minis all the time.
>>94395842
>>94395858>slaaneshy chaosfag trying to deflectAs to be expected.
I wonder what the winrate of WE is for each Angron reviveLike, is 0 revive angron 30% WR and 1 revive is 50?
Is it normal for my infiltrator squad to come with 13 bases, 11 normal 2 small
Does this blade look good?
New>>94395926>>94395926>>94395926
>>94395927You need a little bit more blending.
>>94395955I've been doing so much the paint is flaking off
>>94393392Redemptor dreadnought.
