Big Battlefield Edition>Point changes:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g5ot1app/warhammer-40000-balance-update-points-changes-are-here-with-the-new-munitorum-field-manual/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Tithes Animationshttps://gofile.io/d/GpvGgmhttps://gofile.io/d/3oPbxIhttps://gofile.io/d/T8ffnG>How to make wargames terrainhttps://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous thread:>>94392399>Thread Question:What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?
>>94395926>What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?Horus Heresy like on OP picture
>>94395926>TQTrenches and citiesPost WIP, talk about models, I need to color the forbidden cheeto dust
>>94395926>TQI like to imagine the battles like the OP picture and I guess the picture has made me like semi-urban wasteland environments. What I like to imagine my dudes are fighting in are the ruins of a megatropolis going street to street in brutal urban warfare. Maybe I'm just stockholme syndrome'd into liking GW's urban ruin terrain pieces.
>>94395942You fucked up
>>94395942
>>94395927honestly what would really make this pop is if you took a really saturated red or pink, thinned it down a lot and ran it into the runic recesses and stuff. I think it'd look amazing. The blending is nice, I dont really like hyperreallistic blends anyway.
>>94395969Elaborate
>>94395926>casual nurgle symbols on the road
>>94395970I like how bright your trim is anon. Why this nigga standing on the world's biggest coffee bean
>Prime my models outside in the shed>It starts rainingNOOO THE HUMIDITY
>"From tha momant i undarstand the weakness of ma flesh, i didn't like it. I want strength and metal. I want the machine to be prad of me. Little one want meat, but it will not be there after some time. Your meat will disapear and you will come and ask for help. But i got help, 'cause the machine is forevah. Even in death i serve the Omnimachine."
>>94395977It looks like you used wash on those wide open surfaces and let it pool up and stain. And god knows what you're doing with the gun.
>>94395942finishing up this termie right now, did some more work but can't be bothered to take another picture
>>94395995damn.That wasn't funny.
>>94396000He cute. Really crisp
>>94395998It's a death guard green basecoat and a militarum green contrast paint to get that specific shade of green, I need to touch it up on the larger surfaces to get it smoother, the carapace is obviously not yet done, same for the gun, I was testing if I want a red plasma or a blue plasma
>>94395992I need to do something against the coffee bean / chocolate cake allegations.>>94396000nice model and nice trips, you did a really good job on that headpiece man
>>94396022Stipple a grey into some areas and then drybrush over top with your more orange tone to tie it in
>Buy space marine infiltrators>They don't have all the wargear on their spruethe fuck
HEAVY BOLTERS
>>94395926>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-us/videos/obs3rpib/join-us-for-the-warhammer-preview-show-world-championships-of-warhammer/Are you ready for disappointment?
>>94395942First time trying basing with different materials and milliput, need to put my minis in them and prime them to see how it turns out
>>94396032That hit me right in the nostalgia. The way things used to be, when sprues only ever had a fraction of all the wargear listed in the codex.
>>94395921 (from previous thread)"It is not uncommon for freeblade knights that feel they have disgraced themselves or dishonoured themselves to attach themselves with regiments as a form of penance. But some have come to enjoy the isolation from their knightly brethren. As they are free from the shackles of what is honourable and dishonourable in combat. Able to use underhanded tactics and methods to gain the upper hand in the battlefield. The success of these tactics and the freedom to use them can not only feel liberating for these isolated freeblades but also the earned praise of the guard they fight alongside has been found to be intoxicating.">>94395942>>94395970Looking nice so far. I'm digging the base. I just feel that some of the colours are a bit glossy, but it might just be your camera or if you're doing a gloss then matte varnish then that's good.
>>94396032What are they missing
>>94395942Gonna paint these spawn for a boarding actions event tomorrow
>>94396043>the rare raw cork bark enjoyer Beyond based
>>94396055The Helix Gauntlet
>>94396060Feel like they'd make more fitting mutilators but pretty cool
>>94396043When it comes to basing I really find it difficult to have any sort of material between the feet of the model and the plastic of the base itself. I know its a personal issue but I just cant bring myself to not have a full flush connection.
>>94395942I like the crunch.
>>94396060Whoops, that was way out of focus>>94396071yeah, poor mutilators. gotta sneak them in where I can
>>94396009>>94396022thanks for the kind words anons
>>94395942Going to prime these tomorrow, start getting some basecoats down these next few days off.
Third party sisters where?
>>94396068>The Helix GauntletThat comes in the Phobos kill team kit.
What are some of the best Homebrew factions you’ve seen? Dynasties, Chapters, Warbands, Craftworlds. The type of read-through that was not just solid, but stuck with you.
>>94396068Maybe use the little comms armpiece and stick an antenna on the end as a needle?
>metal color exhaust manifold with a small amount of black metal dropped inAh, the perfect fucking metallic
>>94395926>/40kg/>Horus Heresy OP image
WE HAVE COME FOR YOU!
>>94395942Did a cape for a shield captain and based the Orion. I'm going to put some very dusty guardsmen marching underneath it.
>be me>live in inhospitable nuclear shithole>only hope is to be chosen to be taken into the sky to become an angel >spend my entire childhood training >finally the angels descend on their chariots and I have a chance to become an angel>have to make a three week journey to Angel’s Fall>suffer through radiation, disease, radscoprions and mutant cannibals>make it to Angel’s Fall>despite being half starved and broken the angels make me fight other aspirants>by some miracle I am chosen>the angels finally bring me into the sky>forced to drink intoxicating drink from a golden chalice>just want to sleep >dragged with the other aspirants to giant hall>forced to listen to a skull faced angel babble in a language I can barely understand>doze off>wake up>everyone is gone>try to walk to exit >before I can leave skull faced angel punches me unconscious>wake up strapped to slab>angel with tentacles shoves thing in my nose>scream as I stop thinking in words and images>watch as they snip off my penis>pain drags me back to sleep>wake up >can’t feel arms or legs>realize I have none and can only move on treads>forced to follow the angels into dark halls and take pictures>one day there is a battle in a very big hallway>the angels die in droves to insect demons>watch as every angel is slaughtered>try to escape>door closes on me>can’t get out no matter what I try>centuries pass>one day I randomly hear loud screaming >finally a rescue>can hear them as they shout and smash through doors>finally they break through the door I’m stuck in>free at last>try to make my way to them>WHAT IN THE NAME OF RUSS IS THIS MANGY SCRAPHEAP UP TO?>get kicked into deep shaft>land onto my side>can’t get back up>for the first time in forever I think in words>fuck my stupid C.A.T. life
>>94396093Fuck>>94396098I'll try that.
>>94396114Dios mio, mucho texto
>>94396087 Anvil industries has burning rose
>>94395926>What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?Exotic colored badlands are cool, as are bioluminescent jungles. Really anything that can't be found easily or at all on earth.
>>94396087All SoB needs is a more goth paint scheme and they already look 3x betterLess red and gold more purple and blue
>>94396099I like 4drops metal colour aluminum + 1drop metal colour steel. I'll have to give exhaust manifold+black metal a try sometime
i just got hit by a dread-heavy marine list and idk if I'm stupid or if this is sleeper OP
>>94396137He beat you because his list is more kino than yours
>>94395936>>94396102>Tries the bait twiceactually sad
>>94396137Let me guess, the "sleeper" list of "ironstorm"
>>94396143dunno ask /hhg/
>>94396137>>94396145>space marines want their own dreadmob tooThey really do wish they were orks, don't they?
>>94396145everyone told me vanilla marines were crap, he just juggled some redemptors at 50% HP and kept spamming Power of the Machine Spirit then healing it back up to 50% so every turn his redemptors blew up everything that shot at them and the techmarines all had lone operative
>>94396161everybody said first company task force is dogshit but it's got an 80% winratedon't listen to retards
>>94396161>everyone told me vanilla marines were crapMost of them are, yes.Ironstorm is an exception.
>>94395926>>Thread Question:>What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?alien ruins in the middle of a jungle are always the absolute fucking bestperfect interactions with the best guardsmen (catachans), with the best orks (freebooters) and with the best aliens (lictors, striking scorpions, kroots)
>>94396043Yeah, it was the first time I was doing something like this too, I just really wanted a knight that stands on a trench to use with my upcoming Krieg army box>>94396028I did some improvements, it's no longer the muddy shitpile I wanted to originally go for but it does look alot better>>94396046I did give it an initial glossy varnish to fix the base, when it's completely done I will give it a matt varnish
>>94396161They are. The problem is that the exact list you faced would have probably been even better had it been a divergent chapter, even if for one character. Being Dark Angels with that was the go-to list for them for a while
>>94396143That's diferent anon, I got only one (You)
>>94396130That and the non-penitent sisters need less ugly heads
>>94396169>don't listen to retardsThe retard here is you, looking at WR like its a meaningful metric but doubly so because it has 1 player on statcheck. Literal garbage data.
>be Saim-Hann Wild Rider>racing through the webway at the speed of fuck>a couple of hours ago the clan farseer came barreling through the main hall screaming about Necrons being awoken on some podunk mon'keigh world>chieftain tells everyone to get off their asses, we're going to kick some metal skelly ass>shouldbefun.soulstone>burst out of webway portal onto shithole mon'keigh planet>see fires of in distance>looks like the mon'keigh started the party without us>no matter, mon'keigh are probably fucking it up, like they usually do, should still be plenty of necrons for us to play with>clan charges towards Skelly Central>vroom vroom
>>94396169One guy playing it is a statistical outlier and not worth reading into.
When glazing, how do you prevent the glazes from making coffee stains? I remove pooling but they still dry with coffee stains at the edge.
>>94396306If there's pooling, you're not glazing
>>94396306You are literally performing steps to create coffee rings, what do you expect? You need to be diligent about preventing that pooling as you are putting the paint to the model; this is where the cleanup happens for this, not after it's been sitting for a minute.
>>94396306Ask your dad, he glazes me on the reg
>>94395926>TQMy main opponent is my friend who plays Tau. So we agreed most of our battles take place on Gue'vesa worlds near civilian habitats. That way we both get what we want. He gets to defend his human allies while I get to punish traitors and collaborators.
>>94396306Are you loading your brush correctly?
>>94396306You aren't wicking your brush before glazing
Shit game. Shit player base. Dead hobby.
I got all of these from the same seller so I'm only paying shipping for the first one, but this is a pretty good deal, right? I'm still building my first army.
>>94396438Okay
>>94395926>TQRocky ravines and canyons. Most people won’t play with me on that terrain since the lack of ruins and long sight lines scares them though. Cluttered industrial facilities are sweet too.>>94395942I need to work on my crisis suits again, haven’t touched them all week. I’ve been too busy fucking the hell out of my girlfriend. What freehand should I put on them when I get back to them? Tau don’t seem to be as big on heraldry as sm.
>>94396476God bless you thumbs up anon.
i managed to turn one of my friends into warhammer 40k with lore videos todaywhat is the best way to make tabletop seem more appealing to him than lore faggotry
>>94396495That dog's disappointment in his owner because he plays votann.Poor animal.
>>94396495You just know that dog plays sisters of battle.
>>94396495"it's like the lore but ur the commander in this story wanna try? :)"
>>94396503>>94396505stop talking about the dog she is fineanswer my guestion
Should I print maximum eight bounds to have on hand?
>>94396533>she
>>94396533What’s the name of the dog
>>94396533>stop talking about the dog she is fineShe's not fine, you play votann, that's bad for your dog health, stop it anon.
Any books where Chaos corrupted people are the protags? Preferably not the Primarchs.
The Votann novel is out now. Go buy it!
>>94396543>Votann novel>About a womeme
>>94396542Yes."Daemon World" is one example.And there are a ton of novels that have CSM protags.
>>94396546Kin is kin.
>>94396542my diary
>>94396551except for, you know, those 'kin'.
>>94396535>>94396538joey, her name is joey>>94396540i feel bad nowmaybe i should not have made this post in the first place
>>94396542Night Lords trilogy, Black Legion series, new EC book, Fabius Bile books, Word Bearers series, Lords of Silence, Iron Warriors series.There are few.
>>94396563Why did you buy all those boxes when the combat patrol would have been cheaper
Should I buy a 2nd DE combat patrol despite not having built the first?
>>94396581no
>>94396492
>find old battleforces on ebay >Nearly 3x the price, + I have to pay another hundred on top on import fees and shipping>Search for a pidly single model instead>The model costs decent, but I have to pay almost triple on import feesGod I fucking hate the UK so much bros.
>>94396581Yes
>>94396495>Dull, unbrushed coatGrim
Impulsor vs Land Raider for Blood Angels? Land Raider charge for muh dc seems sick
Aren't Horus and big e both kinda small time compared to necrons and the eldar
>no unique achievements to their name>don't leave their home planet often>mostly deal with problems on their homeworld>writers have ruined their lore>extremely mary sue>not written with any flaws>the only people who have them as their army are newfagsHow do we fix tau? pic unrelated
>>94396617no they're the main characters.
>>94396617I dunno ask /hhg/
>>94396607>jump pack infantry in a transportbro
>>943966072000pts of dreadnoughts
>>94396626That's like 400 points right thwrw
>>94396623I have some footies
>>94396618Give them big tt blue cowgirls
>>94396563>i feel bad nowAs you should.>maybe i should not have made this post in the first placeMaybe you shouldn't byu votann in first place. Doggo is only redeeming quality, buy normal, non votann army, do it for her.
>>94396629Tell me you're a secondary without telling me you're a secondary
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>94396565>>94396547Neat, thanks.I got Magnus and Alpharius's Horus Heresy Primarchs books but I mean those books are mostly about how they are before everything goes shitfaced.
GW insider here. Dark eldar will be receiving a new book series, new models, and a massive in lore event around them and a certain clone. The writers and sculptors have been given their assignments, expect the first novel the drop in 4 years!
>>94396671>source:the deepest depths of anons asshole
>>94396617Not really, the Emperor is supposed to be the king of plot contrivance. If the Emperor needed to body the Necrons for the sake of the plot, he would. If he needed to lose temporarily he would. If the Eldar gods combined forces and manifested an Avatar to fight preheresy Emps, it would lose. The Emperor never "loses", that's how he goes. He's a plot device, not a character. There was that time he shit on the void dragon and imprisoned it in Mars
>>94396644I'd be a secondary if knew what a dogshit model/datasheet the dreadnoughts are
I like the Tau goddess thing.It's a cool concept. I hope they expand on it further.
>>94396689>dreadnoughts le badnogames confirmed
>>94396689>I'd be a secondary if knew what a dogshit model/datasheet the dreadnoughts areUwot
>>94396708
>>94396689some of the dread datasheets are the best in the game
>got like 4 sets of legionnaires from various boxes over time>1 of which is the nightlords KT set>Tfw I cant just buy another 3 upgrade sprues from Nemesis claw to make a full nightlord legionnaire squad of unitsAutism compells me to make them all the same but no one's selling just the sprues.
>>94396551>kyn is kynFTFY
>>94396722How many models go in a legionnaire squad of units
>>94396740I think you can take 3 battleline right? so that's 10x3, thirty. If I could somehow acquire 2 more upgrade sprues I could "Nightlord"ify all I'd ever need.
I found a new space orc figure:
>>94396708No, you just wanted to post off-model coomer art that has nothing to do with 40k but the word "gue'vesa." Try masturbating before posting next time.
>>94396767that's official art
>>94396753Okay
>>94396753Saiyins are just Orcs who are too retarded to be green, right?
Did they change the 40K intro? Read this. I don't recall it being like this.>For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind. By the might of his inexhaustible armies a million worlds stand against the dark.>Yet, he is a rotting carcass, the Carrion Lord of the Imperium held in life by marvels from the Dark Age of Technology and the thousand souls sacrificed each day so his may continue to burn.>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. It is to suffer an eternity of carnage and slaughter. It is to have cries of anguish and sorrow drowned by the thirsting laughter of dark gods.>This is a dark and terrible era where you will find little comfort or hope. Forget the power of technology and science. Forget the promise of progress and advancement. Forget any notion of common humanity or compassion.>There is no peace amongst the stars, for in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.Did they change the 40K intro?
>>94396793>Read this
>>94396495prediction75% of those boxes will be opened40% of the kits will be built10% of the kits will be primed1 mini will be painted1 bike will be half paintedEmail me in 2 years to let me know when it's on facebook marketplace
>>94396793It's an abridged version of the classic intro. It's missing some of the most iconic and poignant lines though
>>94396793>expecting me to read this humie drivelSee boyz, dis is why humies are too dumb to be any good inna fight!
>>94396793yes that's different.
>>94396785He's very dusty but he qt
>>94396785poor guy havent seen a game in agesatleast give him a courtesy clean once in 2 decades
Inquisition mystic I finished yesterday
>>94396854I know jack and shit about miniatures, but I like it.
Have space marine pauldrons remained the same size through the various scale changes or are they all over the place
Man, I got fucking bodied at game night tonight.55-15 loss to a Deathguard with Rotigus, Mortarion, three Karnivores, and an ass load of deepstrike Terminators.I just couldn't kill anything once he got on the points and supply drop just made it even harder.
>>94396746You can take up to 6 battleline. Though it's worth noting current wisdom is to run Legionaries as 5.
>>94396892What was your faction/general list?
>>94396753>On tonight's episode of 'How Do I Shove My Other Interests Into The Thread'
>>94396793Yes it's been rewritten and rephrased but with the same meaning .When was this done? I no longer read the fluff in modern rulebooks. The version most anons including myself was the same as the version in Rogue Trader except without the part mentioning you (the player) being able to experience it through the game
>>94396926*The version we first read
>>94396885Pauldrons, hands, weapons, backpacks and heads were deliberately kept interchangeable.
>>94396713NTA. You mean like this?
bring back the libby dread
>>94396899DE MSU Skysplinter with lots of boats and infantry and Talos+ Voidraven supportBurned out all my pain tokens early on and whiffed nearly everything and couldn't generate more because he had so few units to kill.
>>94396708>goddess Coomer trash
>>94396708>Retard who prefers generic trash likes tau god bullshitwow amazing
>>94396942Only if we get the maga dread too
>>94396907Comparing saiyans and orks is nothing new.
I think I'm only a gladiator away from finally being free and having my first proper 40k list built, painted and table ready
so will there be an 11th edition because 4 years are almost up
>>94396966it's haven't even been two years yet, retard
>>94396974>it's haven't even been two years yetwhat a horrible thing to say
>>94396966I hope you like female marines
>>94396926I feel bad for hating this guy's art since it does seem like he is putting effort in but everything he does is just so unappealing
Taylor swift would be a great addition to 40k
>>94396708I personally enjoy the whole "ethereals hating the manifestation of what they made others think they are" thing. Also from her desciption she sounds like some strange alien hindu goddess. I want to see how that would translate in the model (for reference she's supposed to have even more arms than she has in this fanart).
>>94396991Ngl would make a pretty sweet Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
Is 3 beast bosses leading 3 units of 4 squighogs enough anti tank?
>>94397046Bosses on squigosaurs of course
>>94396894Why 5 over 10? I was told legionnaires are the backbone of a chaos army. Also same issue even with 5, I'd still need 2 sprues.
>>94396785>"Wow, look at the size of that canon.">"I know, a very dangerous weapon.">"...">"Amything wro-">"No, dangerous, you're right, that's what I meant."
My list is 15 points over...Now what?
>>94397079remove wargear :)
>>94396785>>94397070Real talk, they really need to give the gargants some rules already.
>>94397082Wargear? What's that?
So if they're going to make Female Custodes, that means they're going to reveal Female Primarchs, right?Can we get a Bimbo Space Marine Legion?
>>94397003Empowers auxiliaries but not t'auAlso can't be ran alongside ethereals or farsight
>>94395995sensible chuckle.jpeg
>>94397102wrong and wrong
What new Krieg models are we expecting?
>>94397102SHUT THE FUCK UPPPDAMN
>>94396753Begone, Pablo
>>94397111krieger chaos lord as part of new traitor guard release.
>>94397102Yes I'm sure GW will make bimbo models.
>>94397057The value is from the 2 heavies, which you only get 2 of regardless of unit size
Do sisters wear latex under the power armor?
Alright Ultramarine bros, consider this; scifi futa elf goddess mpreg
>>94397134No they wear nondescript singlets and shorts
>>94397102Fulgrim had plenty of wives and chances are Russ was sleeping around a lot, so there are probably a few female primarchs already.
How does my blade look?
>>94397158Yikes
>>94397142Theoretical: That's gayPracticum: Chainsword the xenos.
>>94397158Like a pride flag
>>94397158the tourists are in full swing right now ask again later
Would be pretty cool if fulgrim gave birth. As a joke. Haha.
>>94397158Ghastly. Take a look at a color wheel some time.
>>94397164I FUCKING HATW COLORS SO FUCNING MUCH
Listening to the Vootan new novel (audio version).The first two chapters are set inside a Tyranid bioship being raided by the Votann for material.The two chapters have quite the Tyranid lore dump. Stuff we didn't know before.
>>94397170ok now what
>>94397158I think a hard solid red outline would save it. Or just anything done to the edge of the blade
>>94397180You posted one, but you did not look at it.
>>94397188im looking at it right now
>>94397188go back to crying about orange and teal it was more entertaining
>>94397158Maybe some burgundy in the red and purple in the blue?
>>94397192Good. The colors on your blade neither contrast enough nor are they similar enough to be harmonious.Also a personal point, I hate that pink.>>94397196Don't know who/what you are referring to.
>>94397157I'm gonna be honest, I'm surprised Russ didn't have some tomboy waifus around him.
>>94397226Hebfucked the wolves, anon
>>94396944Dark Eldar aren't actually super strong right now. Their win rate is... odd. And the one thing they can't handle is someone durable disrespecting them. Also -1D is gonna be hellish for stuff like incubi. Basically he walked forward and you had to try to play around him and just couldn't.
Just learned about enhancements. This is the list. https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/uwwxS
>space marine captain has a bionic eye
>>94397254My reaction to that information:C:\Users\HomePC\Pictures\Sensiblechuckle.jpeg
Sisters of battle need better helmets
>>94397259
Calgar used to have pet dinosaurs and a femboy elf hybrid servant. He used to have 2 robotic arms.
>>94397057What the other guy said. Also, their profiles really specialize in beating up chaff/skirmishers/small to mid weight targets. Having more of them isn't likely to really help them crack hard things that 5 couldn't. The thing that seems good right now is to take 2 units of 5, one gets a lord, both go in a rhino. That way you can stage up, send the 5 + lord to go kill something with the Lord's once per game pop off, and the other 5 go on an objective, fuck up some cultists, etc.
Are there any guides on how to get good at freehanding?
>>94397234Tomboy wolf waifus would mean he'd have more than two of them.
>>94397292that's a lot of words to say you're mad lol
What about pure magenta?
>>94397003The hate is so visceral for Tau because the Greater Good is purely a concept, not an entity. It is an enlightened decision of a united species to be and do better than their base instincts tell them to.Reducing it to a religious idol who one blindly worships without any thought is as close to sacrilege as Tau minds can recognize. It is as if some primitive barely contacted Pacific Islanders were found to be sacrificing infants to a "god of compassion".
>>94397316That's horrid
>>94397321Tau are faggots and I question the incentive to include them in the setting.
>>94397325You just hate pink
>>94397321>Tau believe in a concept>No warp connection>Nothing happens>Tau spread belief in the concept to races with warp connection>Warp manifests a physical representation of the concept>surprisedpikachu.jpg
>>94397234I mean can you blame him? They were made for human men.
>>94397336The belief in and of itself doesn't manifest a warp entity. The greater good goddess was born because client races and auxiliaries believed in it as a spiritual thing, prayed to ir for salvation without actually understanding what it means and stands for.
so do codex's come with a code for the app so you can use the app to make lists for that faction?
>>94397326To troll HFY'ers with modern military tactics, but not on humans.
>>94397382But all taufags are obsessed with guavesa
>>94397386not at all, auxiliaryfags get the rope
WIP, but I like the way the eye came out on this guy's chest.
mmmm yummy goopy bubble gum
>>94397403Please stop now before it's too late.
>>94397403This is nauseating
>>94397403the red and blue was genuinely much better
Let us remind ourselves the beast that this weapon used to be, and that weapon being the assault cannon.
>>94397079Realize that simplified rules blow ass and make list building tedious instead of fun purely to encourage you to buy models to make the list work
>>94397425I have found it has made list building harderBefore:>Oh I am x points over/under?>Time to jiggle around war gear to squeeze it to the right levelNow:>Oh I am x points over/under?>Time to redo large portions of my list because I have already taken off/put on enhancements.
>>94397185>>94397316The food Lord in his benevolence gave us perfection when he left the idea of Necrons within the mind of man, and part of that is the beautiful green glow. Take that away and it doesn't matter much what else you do, as you've strayed further away from God's sublime creation.
>>94397412It's okay I fixed it
goopy yummy pink bubblegummy
>>94397433Now it's art
>>94397432I MEAN GOOD LORD, NOT FOODDON'T POST THE GIF
>>94397430Yeah it's tedious and actively encourages you to buy models. Oh you're 10 points over with a list you want? Well, just drop a unit or two and get a vehicle that'll make it a nice round 2k! It's dogshit and stifling.
>>94397432>>94397442
>>94397451Kek
>>94397398Good shit bro.
>>94397153I remeber when those only had purity seals covering the bare essentials.And they were all White with the same haircut
>>94397503Too bad those days never existed
>>94397510I'm talking art, not models
>>94397499Oh those are some flashy possessed.
>>94397510Wow I don't see any difference between those and the new models.
>>94397517Do I need to weigh these down?
What army can I paint entirely with just dry brushing?
>>94397539Necrons
>>94397539all dem
just finished my first knights ever. i made two war dogs for my chaos dudes. they were really fun to make. a bit more advanced compared to just putting some infantry dudes together. i magnetized them on the arms and the heads, but i didn't have the tools or magnets to do it the way a lot of tuts did it where it was seamless. it's pretty cool regardless to be able to swap or rotate heads and weapons. anyone here put knights in their army as allies?
>>94397547Wrong. >>94397549Wrong.
>>94397539Necrons...? That's their entire schtick.
>>94397562How are you gonna do the glowing weapons and the lighting stuff with dry brushing?
>>94397550People use wardogs since they're good and the knights themselves aren't as good.
>>94397433For what purpose
>>94397289sure, just go to youtube
>>94397569Dry brushing.
>>94397576I give up
>>94397316This would be okay if the pure magenta was the absolute brightest/edge highlights and the darker parts were a dark red.
>>94397569I did the middle one like that.
>>94397580But he looked so good aside from the blade. Why'd you have to go and throw a tantrum?
>>94397433You think you're such a badass for ruining your model? Well I dropped a rock on mine.
>>94397569>stipple drybrush dark color into the recesses/where you want>drybrush the lighter color to simulate your glowez
>>94397588I've been trying for a week to get a color scheme that isn't just green and the paint was building up to the point that it started to come off
>>94397604Bro the red was good. Just refine your technique a bit. Look at a fucking tutorial or two dont be a moron. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFIsthaGSkFirst result on google for "red necron glow". You can do the same shit even if you dont have the same ink paints or whatever the fuck.
>>94397604It's okay to not be perfect at painting when you first try. No one is. Rethink what you're trying to do and look at something simpler that you can replicate or find a decent tutorial and replace the greens with pinks or orange or whatever. Needing to strip it is one thing, but don't just ruin your model when you have a little melty.That aside, this looks pretty basic with good results if you want a less traditional Necron weapon look:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qltzpJSOyp0
>>94397518Yeah, they fucked my shit right up too. Advance and charge on those suckers is crazy and they shrugged my entire jump marine squad with chaplain.
>>94397634What detachment was he running?
>>94397645Pact bound zealots
>>94397651Based. I'm running 10 possessed in a 1.5k game next week. It'll be my first game since 6th so I expect to get bodied though
does Ordo Hereticus have a specific SoB Order they call on, or is it whoever is closest or something?
>>94396112Added some guard footslogging along the base
>>94397674You forgot to finish painting the guardsman. An easy mistake to make.
>>94396112There needs to be some distinction between the rocks and the sand. Also they shouldn't be so evenly spaced.
>>94397672Probably whoever's available unless the inquisitor has their own retinue of stormtroopers or the like.
>>94395926TQ: A human city overrun with foliage from a deathworld. The centers of the city still semi-pristine but the outlying streets being reclaimed with alien flora and fauna.Guardsmen ambushing from the windows against tyranids or tau in asymmetric warfare waiting for reinforcements long lost in the warp.
>>94397696>inquisitor has their own retinueHow common is this? I figured it was commonplace, but i've been reading the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels and they both seem to just have a group of skilled agents and have to request any further help.
What if I do a necron army without any glow at all?
>>94397737Make them look like skelemans wielding iron age weaponry
What god would fit best for a nightlords shrivetalon
>>94396445I wouldn’t want to fight them. So I think that’s a good start.Necrons are eepy
Made my first army
>>94397752You crazy bastard, you did it. You really did it. You defeated james workshop.
>>94396495Buy him a killteam for Christmas. Ask which army or xeno he likes best and buy that one.
>>94397599that's very funny
>>94397734That's... what a retinue is.
>>94397777Sure, but having a group of specialists and your Interrogator is different than just having a group of Sisters following you around no?
>>94397746None. They're aggressively smug about being renegades, not Chaos Marines.
>>94397125That’s real funny, post the real model now.
>>94397746Slaanesh. Always remember Edge Lords are the most Dark Eldar ofnthe Marines.
>>94397789well you're wrong about this yet again what a shock
>>94397158A neon purple along the blade edge would be cool, if you go that route a real light teal or neon green would be best.It’s a cool color scheme for aliens in that it isn’t conventionally attractive to human eyes.Not to say it’s ugly, it is, but I think you’re going for that because it’s skillfully done.
>>94397803I haven't posted here once, so you're also wrong. That cancels it out. >It has been theorised that the Night Lords' avoidance of overt Chaos worship has spared their gene-seed from degradation.
>>94397289Think in terms of simple shapes and solid lines.You don’t paint words, you paint the lines that make the letter.The same principle is applied to free handing images or designs
>Built 4 Intercessor squads at 5 man per squad>Put Salamander upgrades on all of them>Play a few games with them>Want to cut two of the squads>Feel guilty for doing so because I spent money and time on adding the upgrades to the modelsGuess I'll keep playing with 4 squads.
>>94395926Where is a good place to source random (or specific) bits for kitbashing/converting? Specifically I am in need of GSC, Tyranid, and Necromunda bits.Also, is using Bluestuff to replicate extra bits worth the effort or a trap?
Forget my other meme list, this is the true power of da boyz. https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/D9dKv
>>94397817>yeah they totally don't worship chaos they just work with daemons and wear chaos icons all over
>>94397834I can wear a cross and not being a zealot. :)
>>94397822What could possibly be a trap about it
>>94397853Difficulty, shitty results, only works well with specific casting medium, etc. It almost sounds too good to be true
>>94397821Eventually you’ll get bough other dudes to cycle them out. Don’t worry about it. I’m running an assault intercessor squad now despite them being worthless because I need SOME reason to bring my converted crusader squad’s initiates to games.
>Buy 2 magazines a week>Get shafted by a new lady at the store>end up having only 5/6 paragon warsuits>She did say she was gonna order the extra one for me but I kinda doubt itWhat the hell do I do now? There's only one listing on ebay and for the price on shipping/imports I may as well just buy a whole set of paragons.
>>94397821This is the problem with fluff vs crunch.I would get something that’s super strong like a dreadnaught and run that to balance your desire to have your special dudes.
>>94397864>>94397883Do you eventually get over the feeling of like you're wasting minis by having them not be used in your army?
>>94397882Just run one less model! Oh wait….
>>94397889Yes. I painted a fucking typhon, used it three times, now it decorates a shelf. I have two invictors and a bike chaplain who will never get used any time soon. I have 3 fucking champions. If you hate it that much you can always sell them.
>>94397899That actually helps a lot, thank you anon.I have a good salary but I grew up very poor so it's hard to shake feeling like every single thing I buy MUST have some use to me.
>all 4 of my armies got nerfedTime to start another one?
>>94397822>bluestuffIts easy
>>94397910I got bad news for you anon...
>>94397910Yes.You should start playing CSM.
>>94397910play sisters
>>94397890Yeah sure. Im wondering if maybe I can kitbash a weird eldritch abomination out of the leftover bits? But even then, I'd need an extra base too and it'd look like shit im sure.
>>94395926>What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?Da jungle
>>94395926>What's your favorite battlefield environment you like to imagine your minis are fighting in?I like to imagine my cult guys are usually fighting off unwelcome visitors to their Dune-like world covered in red sands and various debris from battles, fallen space junk, and rusted ruins of previous civilization
>>94397910Don’t worry about it. Marine players bitched so hard that GW said they’re getting some attention in December. If I’m honest I hope it’s a small points cut to shooty intercessors and redemptors.The bigger issue is how many detachments just aren’t good and how no generic chapter master datasheet exists.
>>94397882You tried this copy pasta a few weeks back
>>94397982I’d fight to reclaim that world.
>>94397851You're delusional if you think Night Lords aren't as deep into Chaos as the Black Legion. All the other Undivided legions pale in comparison to the Word Bearers but they absolutely go balls deep with daemons as the rest. Chaos corruption is not explicitly a physical change either. Chaos warps the soul as much as the body.
Anyone got a pdf of that new Votann book?
>>94398094Nice horsecock.
oh yeah since i made a lot of milliput by mistake i end up magnetizing my minis and used it to hold the magnets and to put some weight on some minis that stick out too much to the front, just tested it and the polarity of all of them are good
>>94397889No, because I want the army that’s means something to me. Not an army that looks good on paper.The odds are, on a long enough timeline your setup will be useable again, and eventually will be nerfed to the point you cannot use them in their current configuration.Plus you can always run a single person game if you invest in an army like nids or some other jobber army. In fact I recommend that if only for the purpose of understanding how to use non-optimized units in a way that makes them more useful.It’s not fun if you’re not having fun.
>>94398085I don't know man, I think genestealers would like all the little rusty hidey holes
>>94398089There is a while slew of players who like to treat alpha legion, nightlords, ironwarriors, and redcorsairs as chaos lite, like, "oh yeah we dont like the imperium, death to the false emperor and all that, but daemons and chaos gods? Ew"They're like the reddit atheists of 40k
I dream of the day where there are rules for power axe Veletaris Auxilia soldiers in 40k. I want to be able to rev up a chimera tank loaded with them and have them reach the front lines, disembark and charge melee enemies even if they will easily get wiped out.I want to be able to see the carnage on the tabletop as they blindly charge into the fray against Votann Cthonian Berserkers.Or against Khorne worshipping Chaos Space marines.Or opposing axe wielding guard units. Or enemy guardsmen bullgryns.I don't care if they get cut down quickly. Have some 40k fans that actually get shit done made a fan made rulebook for fielding HH units in 40k?
>>94397982>cult guys?>dune?!?>SAND?!?!hell yeah brother
>>94398113And they're coping seeing as all of those legions either follow a daemon prince, actively use daemons and have diabolists on retainer, or are outright possessed. Iron Warrior players are the worst offenders since they have DAEMON engines everywhere at all times. They make pacts with all sorts of entities and act like they aren't as much slaves to chaos as the rest. Very in character desu ne
>>94398123They better have blue eyes
>>94398113>>94398141I dont mind it when they play it as aware of the hypocrisy, but it does get annoying when they want to play it straight
>>94398143I have blue eyes Greg, can you milk me?
>>94398117Just run them as a 40k unit with swords. Could easily run them as arbites with the batons
>>94398187The arbites have 40k rules? Thought they were stuck only in kill team.
>>94398190Yeah they're in agents
>>94398123>tfw haven't yet figured out a paint scheme I'm happy withI feel like the Ash Waste Nomad "Neophyte Hybrids" I'm in the process of building are really going to complete the aesthetic.
>>94398083No pasta, just woe is me posting. The bitch said it'd take some weeks for the magazine to arrive, guess what, it hasnt yet.
>>94397674You know putting single colour unfinished guardsmen on the base of your basecoated and unfinished model doesn't make the model any closer to finished right?
>>94397899Sallyfren my beloved
>>94398225What is it about autistic people and not understanding how the mail system works. There is no magic set date something will arrive. Estimates are exactly that, an estimate.
>buy 3rd party models off Etsy for my horde>mfw they only came with half the special weapon options and one of the options wasn't even close to something available
>>94398258Dont bring up the mail system to me. Not only have I had plenty of fucking issues with the garbage delivery in this godforsaken country, I simply dont buy that the lady actually ordered anything in the first place. Im pretty sure she forgot the second I left the store and If I try reminding her now its way too late, we're on nr 87 already.
>>94398221the ash waste nomads are cool, they're more of a star wars tusken raiders/mad max look. i got lucky that the genestealer cults body suits just happen to be pretty close in design to the fremen stillsuits, and they also came with a couple crysknives per set, so they matched what i wanted to do with them>>94398143yeah they do, the lighting in my paint room isnt great but you can kinda see it on the guy on the right. i also didnt spend a ton of time highlighting or detailing on the neophytes, there were like 100 of em and i didnt want to get burnt out on them
>>94398207This is good. Thank you.
>>94398261>told delivery will be a few weeks>UHM ITS BEEN 21 DAYS?!?!>OBVIOUSLY THE LADY IS MALICIOUSLY IGNORING SALES IN HER STORE TO KEEP ME FROM MY MODELSIf you weren't a sperg I'd suggest calling and asking for an updated email, but clearly you'd rather make a fuss on a Norwegian water skiing forum than try and solve anything yourself
>>94398259>message Etsy seller about getting some mirrored parts and models mixed from other weapons teams for psuedo-Krieg Mortar teams>Says they can do it>order and wait an extra week past the estimate>its just a the same sculpts and arms but with a bunch of extra mortar tubes and stands>they claimed the order was fulfilled as requestedThe best was them dming me about my 1 star reviewAll my other interactions with other vendors have been good though
>>94398259Charge back your credit card then
>>94398282>21 daysBrother its been 6 weeks can you count? Thats 42 days. Its a bit more than a few weeks at that point, where are they getting the magazine from australia?
As a quick generalization, is it true that chink recasts are quick and cheap but eastern european casts are higher quality?
>>94398293I have no idea when your rain man ass stumbled into the store to buy the magazine. I was going off you stating the exact you received was a few weeks. Even at 42 days that's not long enough for you to be as distraught as you're behaving.
>>94398282>>OBVIOUSLY THE LADY IS MALICIOUSLY IGNORING SALES IN HER STORE TO KEEP ME FROM MY MODELSALSOSHE LITERALLY FUCKING DIDI was right there on the day of, i had both magazines in my hand and she said no you cant buy these you have to come tomorrow.And tomorrow all but one were sold out, I was fucking lucky to get the one too cause it just happened to be hidden behind a few other magazines at the store. And I know Im sperging out here on a norwegian water skiing forum, but I have enough brains to be nice and cordial irl. Its not like the first thing I did was spit in her face when I walked in. I just grabbed the magazines and went to buy them and she wouldn't sell them for some reason.
>>94398295Depends on what you're buying, I've got some chinesium kingdom death minis that showed up on my porch out of thin air after being refunded for them 8 months prior
>>94398305Have you considered that maybe she was stopping you from buying all of her stock at once to make two customers somewhat happy instead of just having you be stoked and anyone else after you be cheesed? You're literally tantruming rn that you couldn't go into a store and buy out the entire stock before anyone else. A store manager has to keep everyone happy not just your selfish ass
>>94398320No because she had about 7 or 8 magazines. Also its always been on a first come first served basis thats why I go at 7 am as soon as the store opens.
>>94398322>Also its always been on a first come first served basis thats why I go at 7 am as soon as the store opens.Ah okay, you're one of THOSE people.
>>94397321You've fallen for T'au propaganda, I see. It has been made pretty clear by now that most if not all ethereals are full of shit.
Post the best looking Dark Reapers you've seen, kitbashes, alternative models, anything.It's been a while since they released the plastic Dark Reapers and I haven't really seen great paintjobs of them, I think they could be great but need a more interesting paintscheme and possibly an alternative head.inb4 the gifs are posted
>>94398386>All that effort and detail painted on>Still looks like shitThese models are just turds.
>>94398386
I am fortifying this thread
the "emperor" is actually a woman and has been this whole time, but she's fucking autistic and grew up in bronze age anatolia so she thinks people can only take a leader seriously if they're a 20 foot tall giant glowing golden caveman covered in lightning.the reason sisters of silence are allowed to see through her glamours and are kept close as bodyguards is because they're the only people who know the secret. that's also why they're not allowed to talk.this is also why every fucking primarch has such big daddy issues, she doesn't know how to be a father because she isn't one.the inquisition doesn't want you to know this but it's true, I have a very old Writ of Trade signed personally by the emperor shortly after the imperium was founded and there's a little heart drawn above the seal
>>94398441Looks much better with just the modified guardian helmets.
how to run ironstorm dark angels?
>>94398480500 dreadnoughts
>>94398480Use ironstorm and paint your dudes green.Marine subfactions are a joke this edition.
when do the xmas battleforce preorders go up on the official us warhammer storei was too busy watching the shitty mike tyson fight and forgot to preorder it from 3rd parties right at midnight(the fight sucked)
GW should bring back marine codex supplements from 8th/9th.They had actual flavor compared to what we have now.>but colorschemesThey should be more than that and they used to be more than just colorschemes in past editions.Turning everything into samey formless mush is boring. Taking away flavor and dumbing 40k down more and more.Nevermind that in the old editions it incentivized you to make /yourdudes/, nowadays making /yourdudes/ is a detriment and it just pushes people to use named already existing armies instead of having people come up with their own."Ironstorm" detachment is just Iron Hands, everyone knows it but GW got lazy and told you can just paint whatever and play whatever.Having options and variety is always better. But more importantly, factions and their lore should be properly and accurately represented in the tabletop rules.
>>94398498>xmasChristmas*
>>94398525*hanukkah
>>94396652Do we think they just refresh the oop resin models and wyches?I quite like the boats and warriors as they are desu
>>94398531*saturnia
>>94398522I'm just sad about the loss of custom sub-factions. Necrons had fun stuff in 9th, same with nids.
>>94398480>>94396626
>>94398322>I go at 7 am as soon as the store opens.You missed out on the models because you're an annoying customer
negrons haha
>>94398522Gw should make a killa Kan wearing pants
How are GW planning to justify Primaris Grey Knights? Their Gene Seed is made from the Emperor's DNA, are they really going to let some Admech goon monkey around with it?
>>94398656No. They won't be actual primaris, just a primaris-sized refresh.
>>94398656Primaris are just old marines with extra organs. The geneseed/DNA has nothing to do with it.
>>94398656well if crowe is anything to go by they arent getting primaris, they are just getting an upscaling refresh in classic armor
>>94398656They don't need to let an admech dude mess with it.Just give the primaris tech and knowledge to them and they can start making their own primaris.This is already what both Guilliman and Cawl do if they find a chapter of marines, they just give primaris reinforcements to the chapter and then give them the tech and knowledge on how to make more of the primaris. Or if they have no primaris marines to give they just give them the tech and knowledge to do so.Guilliman can just easily do this with the Grey Knights as well since he is the current Lord Commander and Imperial Regent (aka defacto Emperor currently). He just gives them the tech and lets them decide what to do with it.
>>94398656Can you faggot stop saying stupid shit? Look at Crowe, you think he is primaris? No? Then shut the fuck up already.
>>94398535It's more likely they just drop the resin models from the codex entirely, then put out new replacement units in the 11e starter box.
>>94398704>Look at Crowe, you think he is primaris?Yes.
>>94398710Get new eyes.
>>94398386Is there a breakdown of all the reasons why this kit doesn't work aesthetically? The heads are the biggest problem but the bodies and poses are also weak. I'm thinking about sculpting a head based on Jes Goodwins design because it would at least fix one of the issues.
>>94398724pic wasn't included
so how advanced does a machine need to be to get the machine spirit? does a windmill have it since it automates turning?
>>94398760Anything a person can anthropomorphize has a machine spirit. It helps if they don't fully understand how something works, because it's easier to ascribe personality to it.
just preordered the DA box
>>94398770ah ok. so is the machine spirit real or did the ad mech make it up?
>>94398760A machine spirit is a rudimentary AI in something like a titan, or nothing but the basic programming in something like a cogitator. The mechanicus denies this since AI are sacrilegious but it's what they are. So anything that is smart enough to do autonomous actions has a machine spirit since the whole idea is that machine worship is a result of regression and a lack of understanding without mysticism. In the FFL rpg it's a whole religious thing to smack a computer to make it work with a catechism and everything.
>>94398724>Overly simplistic faces, with a very stupid shape to them (more detail wouldn't fix it, they have to be altered)>Giant foreheads>Exarch looks like a tiny face poking out of a hoodie or something, top of the face reminds you of a widow's peak.>Armour is generic guardian armour but with a bunch of stud details added on, no diversity of texture, no cloth, nothing.>Poses very phoned in>The design is just very dumpy and awkward, no cool angle or lines, no dynamism, no weight. They're very nothing models and the only thing that makes them really memorable are the retarded faces.They had the formula. Maugan Ra looks decent.For a nu eldar design I like, shining spears.They're so sleek, Every part of them angles forward and it communicates so much speed and deadliness. Cool ass design. Can't really capture it on camera. Can't really capture my colour scheme either.
>>94398793You understand how the warp and mass belief works right?It's both.
>>94398714Don't need to.Crowe is primaris sized, aka he is a primaris marine. Firstborn marines are the size what CSM are and Crow is bigger than them.>but the armorPrimaris can wear any armor out there, it just needs to be fitted to their bodies first, which is a thing that martines already with power armor anyway.
>>94398724>Is there a breakdown of all the reasons why this kit doesn't work aesthetically?No, because the fact is that all the complaints are just pure autism, ie. it boils down to "it triggers some phantasmal part in my mind and that's why I don't like it"The new reapers were a 100% faithful update and look good for the most part. Only thing that definetly 100% sucks about the is the skull faces.But those are easy to fix by either filling in the mouth and nose with some putty and smoothing it, or you can do what this dude here has done >>94398441 and just used modified guardian helmets with the dark reaper helmet flanges glued on.
>>94398069Please make detachments limited to codex only
>>94398798>For a nu eldar design I likeNewfag using buzzwords about things he has no knowledge about at all.None of these eldar designs are "nu", they are quite literally the same old shit from 80s/90s but done better.
>>94398826It's ok to just admit you have no taste.
>>94398828Why would made up fanfiction be a hard pill to swallow?
>>94398835I know what you're doing. Try to bait smarter.Here's my 1 and only (You) for you.
>>94398828If by killed you mean drained his nuts then yeah
>>94398834Sure anon. And there's no meaningful difference between plastic krieg and resin krieg either right?
>>94398847Primarchsissies are so predictable lmoakek
>>94398840>FanfictionIt is a confirmed canon story that lelith once killed a "giant human wearing nothing but a loincloth" that apparently killed an inordinate amount of wyches during and unspecified amount of time before she stepped in the arena, and to this day it was her hardest fight yet despite the human being tired to shitEldar are as tall a space marines, the only thing that would appear as a giant to them is a Primarch
>>94398853Could've been an ogryn. There's no appreciable difference between a primarch and an ogryn, as their statlines prove.
>>94398843Saying you have no taste? You are genuinely displaying an extreme lack of emotional maturity and I think this all stems with you have an unhealthy emotional investment in GW. So whenever someone criticizes something new you get upset.
>>94398828They literally never interacted. Khan died before she was even born
>>94398853This is very easily ignored and basically means nothing. GW could throw it out if they felt like bringing him back.
>>94398847And now he has no ballsThat's why they call her "His-Pair-Axe"
>>94398853That means by rights of conquest this is now the Primarch of the White Scars
>>94398861I find it hard to believe an ogryn was more of a challenge than the hundreds of space marines she has killed. More likely a custodes, captured during the Imperial webway project
>>94398885I don't. Ogryns are stronger and tougher than space marines, even with their power armor to balance the scales. A naked ogryn could absolutely mog a naked space marine in every department.
>>94398853It was Omegon she killed you retard
Can someone remind what the space marine chapter was that is basically owned by the AdMech? Not the Iron Hands, the one actually entirely in service to Cawl.
>>94396618>dont leave their homeplanet oftenBro Virola is now the most used Tau planet for anything. T'au itself is barely mentioned.
>>94396618The funny thing is I know so little about Iron Hands I don't know whether this le ebin fakeout meme even applies to them or not. Imagine being less relevant to the tau despite being part of the posterboy faction, kek.
>>94398893Realistically a Space Marine is so fast an Ogryn wouldn't even be able to hit him. Dark Eldar wyches are even faster.People really keep forgetting that in order to win you need to actually catch your opponent
>>94398919All Primaris chapters are property of cawl wheter they know it or not
>>94398954>Realistically [a bunch of faggoty babbleyapp]They get slugged by ogryn all the time, deal with it.
>>94398965I accept your concession
>>94398973Stats don't lie, ogryns slap the shit out of marines all the time. They're also canonically stronger, deal with it.
>>94398954I'm sure to win because my speed is superior
anti marine eldar discordtrannies are out in full force huh
DEATH! DEATH! DEATH!
>>94398605>>94398322honestly anon if this is how you usually act, i'd sandbag and make sure you didn't get all the models you wanted too
>>94398853>It is a confirmed canon story that lelith once killed a "giant human wearing nothing but a loincloth"So an ogryn or a space marine?
>>94398885>I find it hard to believe an ogryn was more of a challengeIt's really not.Ogryn are very much tardmaxxing constantly. They are inhumanly strong, even stronger than space marines or custodes, and they are retardedly durable and hard to kill because they have lot of subcutaneus fat on them, but they are also notorious for having a higher tolerance to pain and damage. And in general ogryns can shrug off wounds.
>>94398954>Realistically a Space Marine is so fast an Ogryn wouldn't even be able to hit himWhy?>intercessor squad WS3+>ogyn squad WS3+They're about as skilled as one another.
>>94398954>>94399067Isn't speed and dodging usually represented by Invuln saves?Why does a space marine have no Invuln saves then?
>>94399067Because you can't account for speed and reflexes on a tabletop game, space marines are canonically so fast normal humans can't follow their movements without some kind of mechanical assistance
>>94399076>space marines are canonically so fast normal humans can't follow their movements without some kind of mechanical assistanceI'm gonna need a source for that one chap.I've seen that comment in relation to the Eldar but not about Space Marines, though they are faster than most people imagine.
>>94399067Back when Initiative was a thing Space Marines were I4 and Ogryns I2
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>>94399074>Isn't speed and dodging usually represented by Invuln saves?For a gight I'd argue the skill needed ro be able to land a blow on targets that are defending themselves is a good indicator of you speed, agility, precision and timing
>>94399078In the space wolves omnibus Ragnar Balckmane dodges a lascannon shotIn the Dawn of War novel a space marine manages to unholster his bolt pistol, raise it and fire at a traitor's weakpoint in a fraction of a second.I would need to dig it up but back when SM chapters had cool roules, in 4th or 5th, Salamanders had the Slow and Purposeful rule because they were described as "while still being so fast that human eyes can't track them, Salamanders are known for be tougher and stronger, but also slower, than Marines of other chapters"by doing a quick search online some nerd calculated that an average space marine in power armor can sprint up to 60 mph but how did they get to that number is unknown to me
>>94398284Which vendor? I don’t wanna get fucked like that
>>94399110>marine wank
>>94399076Ogryns are canonically so slow that normal space marines can't follow their movements without some kind of mechanical assistance
>>94399128>asks for can sources>is given canon sources>calls it wankIf you want to ignore stuff because of your weird obsession with bara retards just don't ask
>finally get access to reliable good recasters >now have access to every FW model and out of production models going back to RTi'm glad i have good impulse control because otherwise i'd go bankrupt
>>94399143NTA, but the problem is that you have a fundamentally different perspective on things. For most of us here the lore is just background to give the game flavor, and it's the game and its stats that matter the most, and this supposed super duper hyoer qualities of the marines are just not reflected on the game. This makes the claims and sources for those claims simply come out as some steel donut shit about how the guys you like are the fucking bestest.In other /tg/ words it's like TTRPG people that have epic and accomplished backstories for a standard level 3 character and don't see the problem with their borderline super hero demigod being just a regular scrub as capable as Mr. Human Fighter over there that just signed ip with the local militia.
>>94399167then for all the niggers who only believe in tabletop stats i refer to this post >>94399096Marines were (are) I4, same as a basic Eldar but one point lower than aspect warriors. Ogryns are I2, one point less than normal humans.Can an Ogryn kill a space marine barehanded and is generally more resistant to wounds? Yes. Would a space marine generally be able to kill an Ogryn before it gets the chance to retaliate? also yes.
Should I paint the eyes of an imperial fist red or blue or green?
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>>94399203>Would a space marine generally be able to kill an Ogryn before it gets the chance to retaliate?No, because tard strength and durability compensates for that.
>>94399203>Yes.>Would a space marine generally be able to kill an Ogryn before it gets the chance to retaliate? also yes.Chance? Yes. A good one? Not with that armor save Ogryns have.
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>>94398919The Steel Confessors are ad mech aligned. The Cawl one is probably scythes of the emperor or something.
>>94396094Take the knot space marines>>94397381If ypu use the official app you can always make lists but only one. (With correct pts, strategem and enhancements)The codes of the book will allow you to read the rules contained within the book for the app.Having a payed account allows you to have more then 1 list, rules are still locked
>>943984802 death knights squad2 techmarines min2 redemptors1-4 more dreadnoughtsThe rest to taste, but generally good choices:Scouts for objAzrael for CPMelee in clowcar if you like to dreamEradicator to pop-tanksMost DA stuff is shit, flyers are underwhelming, ravenwing bikes and command too
