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>What is EDH?
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>Previously:
>>94472369

>TQ
What card makes you mad when the opponent casts it?
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What do you do with your draft chaf?
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>>94489635
nothing because i dont draft
last time i tried to get into drafting i lost all my games and realized that boardgames specifically designed around drafting are better than MTG draft
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>>94489635
Yuru Yuri?
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Which playmat do I get?
>t. blue player, want something water themed
This one, or...
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>>94489941
this one?
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>>94489613
Game is dead, don't know why y'all bother to keep making threads
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because the previous one has hit the bump limit, anon
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>>94489941
>>94489947
Envision what both mats would look like with your standard board state on them, covering up the art.
Then decide from there.
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>playmats
y
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Who is playing in the Arena Open tomorrow?
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>>94489941
>>94489947
Both look like AI slop. Develop some taste.
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>>94490481
kill yourself gen z retard
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>>94489635
trash, keep the decent rares and foils and trash the rest
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Why did Aurelia walk into a meeting carrying Massacre Girl in a leash again
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>>94489613
How do we feel about Musk buying Hasbro or WotC?
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>>94490542
Massive futa angel cock is well known for taming psycho goth girls.
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>>94490577
It should be Ruby. Ruby would make magic great again.
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>>94490577
>twitter retard asking the social media hivemind to tell him what to think
shocking
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>>94490577
it would be le good
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>>94489613
What book is the kitty reading?
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why doesn't this ability do anything when they destroy the class in response
>When this Class becomes level 2, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
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>>94490937
If it's destroyed, it's no longer level 2.
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>>94490577
Optimistic
>>94490937
The level up ability means
>{cost}: gain a level
The ability on the card triggers when the class gains a level, not when you pay the mana to activate the ability that WOULD gain a level.
It never gets to the triggered ability because the class is gone before that.
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>>94490979
Interesting, that's very silly.
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>>94490492
So they are AI slop?
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>>94490979
ok
arena is misleading because it shows the triggered ability on the stack as soon as you pay
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>>94490577
Lets be real for a moment: regardless of if you think Musk is good or bad, he couldn't possibly be any worse than current Hasbro for WotC.
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>>94489613
>Cat Glimmer
Is Glimmer an enchantment subtype? If it dies and comes back as a enchantment only, is it still a cat?
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>>94491316
Glimmer is a Creature type that can also be a subtype, like how Spirit's can be Spirits, Spirit Soliders and Dragon Spirits. It's still a Cat Glimmer when it's just an enchantment
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>>94491316
Creature subtype
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Will Elon Musk's (founder of X) acquisition of Hasbro save the game?
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>>94491302
Careful, brainrot anon can't comprehend such a complex take
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>>94491343
more brainrot tourists come here to post the same social media screenshots
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>>94491033
when you activate the ability it goes on the stack, then when it resolves the class becomes level 2 and another trigger happens (like it says on the card, "When this class becomes level 2"). arena is pretty bad but I'd be surprised if it's getting this one wrong.
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>>94491302
>surely this billionaire would be less greedy than those pesky millionaires!
Calling it now, if he actually buys then within a month all artists are replaced with AI and all sets will be UB.
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>>94491380
When you're as wealthy as him you don't need to minmax for profit.
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>>94489941
Get a custom playmat made of Terese Nielsen art and smile warmly at any troon who pairs into you.
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Post your black Friday pick ups boys
I'll start
>2 cases of Rivals of Ixalan
>1 case of Core 2020
>1 case Strixhaven Collectors
>4 Ikoria Collectors
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>>94491441
Get a custom playmat of one of the cards that references eunuchs and smirk knowingly at any troon who pairs into you
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>>94491414
>don't worry elonbros, that money will be trickling down on us any day now!
I hope you're baiting, it's sad to see people this desperate. 10 minutes looking at his track record will show a long list of broken promises and squeezing money out of people. Still waiting on those fully self driving cars that were supposed to happen almost a decade ago lol.
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>>94491459
>highest resolution is pic related
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>>94491494
I said nothing of that sort
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>>94491380
dont care as long as i can make other nerds mad with counterspells
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>>94490577
Musk buying WotC would be so funny because it would provoke (another) massive shitlib Jonestown event, a great -ackening of middle aged he/him content creators performatively quitting the game, just months after doing fuck all of nothing to protest MTG's official Marvelsloppification.

Like a quarter of WotC's employees are on Lupron. Imagine there's a mass resignation and WotC has to go back to only putting out 4 sets a year, wouldn't that be just terrible?
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>>94491599
>months after doing fuck all of nothing to protest MTG's official Marvelsloppification.
Why would they protest something they want? The secret lair sold out pretty much immediately, and I'm willing to bet that the Spider-Man set beats LTR for the record of best selling set ever.
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When I'm teaching this game what should I call sorceries, instants and enchantments? I don't want to call them spells because that will confuse people
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MFW Elon buys Hasbro and destroys the reserved list .
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>>94491302
Is that a bet?
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>>94491637
call them what they are, people over estimate how confusing something is, they often learn it as they whine about how they don't understand.
t. has taught 5+ people to play
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>>94491637
Just call them spells, even wotc calls the archetype spellslinger.
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>>94489613
>(It's not a creature)
Yeah, no shit, it says that it's an enchantment right there. What the fuck?
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>>94491637
If you are teaching a former yugioh player, call enchantments "continuous spells"
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>>94491704
They decided to make it confusing by calling it an Enchantment Creature for some reason, if they didn't say that people would think it's somehow an enchantment and a creature at the same time
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>>94491637
Sorceries, instants, and enchantments.
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>>94491494
Literal schizo lol
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>>94491494
>Where’s my goddamn electric car, Bruce?!
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>>94491670
One hand:
>Abolished reserve list
Other hand:
>Literal Tesla vehicle cards
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>>94491637
Everything not a land is a spell
Everything that sticks around is a permanent (creatures, enchantments, artifacts, lands)
Instants and Sorceries are therefore "non-permanent Spells" and Enchantments are just Enchantments
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>>94491599
>MTG's official Marvelsloppification.
Things being moving to that direction since like old Kamigawa set? Theme park planes replaced Old Dominaria and now you just other IP bullshit ingested. Sois won.
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>>94492083
>time spiral was marvel
lmao
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>>94492108
Nah, Alara was not Marvel either. But you see a trend of them going from settings that feel like they could worlds of their own - to theme parks (weeb world, ancient egypt, mesoamerica and so on). And now just other IPs.
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>>94490481
based
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>>94491599
kill yourself, mindbroken twitter culture warrior
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>>94491743
why not say "it is no longer a creature"?
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what's the best legacy dnt build, orzhov or boros?
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>>94489635
Pauper/rip up ugly art.
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>>94492155
I will be sure to rip up diversity hire cards just for you.
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cube where every card has a pretty lady on it
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>>94491561
Based
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>>94492301
Alesha....
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Hey guys, Commander player here. I need to settle a debate I'm having.
Someone in my pod keeps insisting this card is good, but I don't understand why someone wouldn't just pay the 3 every time. It feels like it's just worse Smirking Spelljacker in every way.
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>>94492455
breddy good
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God I fucking love all the horror creatures, rooms, and glimmers from duskmourn but God do I hate the good guys and survivors.
It's such a great set, but man has there been a set where just half of the cards just clash so fucking hard
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>>94492455
no more lies is a great card and you need to remember this isn't edh where you spend turns doing nothing and ramping.
This is also a format where we also will always kill the mana dork turn one.
Your opponent will not consistently hit land drops, won't start with 7, and won't have mana open always.

It's a very fair card and good for the format.
Also in edh you will still see counter spells played like this that ask for the opponent to pay x
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What do we think about the new Liliana art?
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>>94493046
I find it odd that she is posed so she doesn't show her thumb on either of her hands
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>>94493052
Thumbs are difficult.
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>>94492455
Sometimes you don't have the mana. Sometimes you actually play a game with resource management, instead of the archetypical EDH "lets all not attack each other for the first ten turns ok?" that stems from the fact that any attempt to win will see you ganged up on by everyone else
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>>94493046
It looks like she is sucking in her cheek on the side of her face being hit by moonlight but overall is fine.
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>>94493046
Looks maybe a bit too old.
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I like control decks where you also get a wide board.
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I started using AI to design cards. Some of them turn out like RoboRosewater, but if I detail my vision for the set and specify archetypes, they actually produce ideas I hadn't considered. Still requires balancing
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>>94493046
+ actual curvature
+ face is good
- no visible cleavage

Not bad, but Argyle still wins.
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>>94491015
Neither are AI, you just have brainrot
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new 'ids just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksaRm52omKs
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it's another mh pile with a spicy new card episode
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Who the hell makes deck boxes for UNsleeved cards?
I refuse to play with card condoms yet every single deck box seems to be sized for them, and cards rattle around inside.
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>>94493870
wtf happened to his voice
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>>94493922
>i play with marked cards
then you don't need anything more than a pair od rubberbands
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Abilities sorted into fun and anti-fun:
>Fun:
Haste, flash, first strike, flying, menace, protection from x, reach, regenerate, trample, vigilance, landwalk
>Anti-Fun:
Hexproof, indestructible, deathtouch, double strike, intimidate, prowess
>Yawn:
Lifelink, banding
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>>94492155
You deserve black Aragorn and far worse.
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>>94490577
That would be fucking amazing.
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>>94494252
discarding is anti-fun
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>>94494384
You deserve AI slop and the death of paper.
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>>94490577
Musk doesn't care about MTG either. MTG would continue being Hasbro's piggy bank.
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Post your favorite examples of flavor text that is drastically improved simply by removing half of said flavor text.
>It's not your fault. Strixhaven taught you an imperfect premise.
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>>94494544
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>>94494544
I never really liked jokey flavor text
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>>94494544
fucking all of them these days
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>>94494544
If there’s anything anon hates, it’s overly long flavor text—especially Wizards' unfunny flavor text, the symbol of the ensloppification of Magic.
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>>94490577
Either he burns it down in a funny way or he miraculously fixes it. I don't really mind either way.
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>>94495009
A classic
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>>94494475
I don't play this god forsaken game anymore though. Those are already problems present in mtg, genius.
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I didn't even have to look because it's on every damn card. It even adds up to exactly seventy for the round number autists.
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>>94491599
>>94490577

It points to how bad things are that Musk buying WoTC has mostly been taken as 'He can't make it any WORSE'
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>>94491442
I bought proxies of things I already own but don't want to pay 5$/pop for, and also several custom playmats for myself and as christmas gifts.
>>94491316
Creature subtype, but Shrine for some stupid ass reason isn't
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>Less than 20 1-mana cards in the whole set
Why did they do it?
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>>94495225
Game was slower and Urza block was in the same year anon
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>>94494252
you somehow missed ward the most prevalent fucking thing on cards now
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>>94494252
>Banding not in fun tier
ngmi
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Konami: Our online sim must launch with minimum 99% of the cards printed before this date. It will be developed for 5 years on a budget of 1 quadrillion dollars. It will inject dopamine directly into the brains of our players and be completely free.
WotC: Our (new) online sim will be coded in 6 months by Indians with UI designed by 2010s Japanese developers. It will only include the cards in Standard. It will have cards explicitly not do what they're supposed to in the real game, and add several more cards that will never exist in it. The monetization will resemble a gacha game in the year before shutdown where they try to squeeze every last penny from the players before announcing it's all over.
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>>94495536
Master Duel is starting to make every new deck require a large amount of URs now so you can't build as many decks as you were able to in the past.

Also congrats on both allowing decks that shouldn't exist in a best of one format in the game
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>>94495581
>honeymoon phase ended
>newbies get shafted
Every time lmao, idk how people still fall for it.
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>>94495588
you can still build at least one new meta every two months if you do events and play often, but yes it is less ftp friendly than it was at the start.
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Are there any decent only- or mostly-Foundations decks? I'm not looking for ultra-competitive decks but something that has a chance of winning at FNM.
My new working schedule doesn't let me attend any other events than Saturday Standard games. I definitely don't want to buy into a pile that will turn obsolete with the next rotation because of the key cards getting axed.
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>>94495666
Someone here posted a mono White angels list using only Foundations cards. Seemed decent.
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>>94495659
Yeah sure and if you draft well on Arena you get all the cards f2p. Every game has some option to get all the stuff, the point is that the games that are generous only do so to try and attract a large starting playerbase.
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>>94495257
Yeah I forgot ward is cancer. I also forgot cycling which is very fun and morph which is anti-fun
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>>94495536
you forgot that it will suck the dopamine directly out of your brain
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>we heard the people not wanting so many legends and we have answered
>anyways here's more legendaries in non-magic flavor
it's like wishing on a monkey paw with this jew every time man
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>commander
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>>94495853
This is a "reasonable" ""compromise"" if there could ever be one. You can always ignore the copyrightslop
>but le tournam-
imagine playing constructed
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>>94495853
how many non legendary creatures will even be in the spider-man set?
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give it to me straight bros
will tarkir be a catastrophic flop or will my tarkir set cube be kino
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>>94495978
Mechanics Wise, it could possibly good
Flavor Wise, Their is no way modern Wizards could make it good
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>>94495009
This one's flavor text is fine. The "joke", if you can even call it that, is pretty dry.
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Yes, I cut in line for the Marvel Secret Lair
Yes, I haven't even opened the packages yet
Yes, I am going to flip these for whalegibs
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>tfw my friend (not me) gave money to wotc
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>>94494252
>flash and flying in Fun tier
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>>94496272
>remember when this was posted like it was yesterday
>that was almost 5 years ago
fuck fuck fuck
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average twitter user int
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What was the best new gameplay mechanic they made this year? For me, it was Rooms.
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>>94493922
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>>94491893
he would, but it would be like the first couple of transformers/d&d/pony cards, just an oddity for collectors and not for coomandering.
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>>94491743
>it's somehow an enchantment and a creature at the same time
But it is, before it dies.
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>>94493046
pretty, but vaguely ethnic in a way I dislike..
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>>94494821
There's plenty of places for it, but it's everywhere now. Doesn't help that they all have marvel-slop humor now too.
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>>94496648
Offspring and Spree, I like Kicker mechanics.
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>>94496648
Plot
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>>94497016
Oh. So it dies to Disenchant? Is that the only thing that differentiates it from a regular creature?
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>>94497275
It's both and creature, and an enchantment. So Sterling Grove, auramancer etc would make it indestructable. It would also trigger Doomwake giant etc.
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bot drafts are stupid
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>>94497079
this one could have been normal generic goblin flavor text until Gavin ruined it with names like "Loll" and "Blog". the existence of the internet hasn't been funny for over a decade at this point.
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help me sculpt my standard bo1 sideboard please

>omniscience in play
>2x invasion of arcavios in library and ways to dig to it (beanstalk, atraxa, make your own luck, etc)

are there any combination of instant/sorceries I can tutor out to win faster than these
beseech + this town ain't big enough goes infinite to find any number of spells from anywhere but its not like I can just cast a big dumb 20 damage to face spell
what about something like brass's bounty and a big x spell?
breach can mill infinitely but man that's like 20 spells to win
2x herd migration + heroic reinforcements could be 10x 4/4 haste (+2x 2/2) but you need to cast 3 rounds of spells
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>>94497815
>atraxa retard
>is a retard
checkout
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>>94497511
Newfags plz go
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>>94497984
>NoooOOoooOOoo a 7 mana spell shouldn't be allowed to DRAW MORE CARDS

Why are you so triggered by Atraxa of all cards?
Atraxa is one of the least threatening cards in the history of MTG. All she does is draw more cards
As a body she just dies to removal and is a 3 turn clock big whoop

Unstoppable Slasher is a 3 mana card that kills you in the same number of swings as Atraxa and frontloads more damage. Atraxa deals 7/14/21 damage in three swings, Slasher deals 11/17/20 damage in three swings. Atraxa dies to a go for the throat, slasher takes 2 removal spells unless they exile.
2B vs 3WUBG
Big dumb combo decks play Atraxa to draw more cards to fuel their big dumb combos, it might as well be Overflowing Insight lmao, only reason control decks really care is they can make creatures uncounterable in mirror.
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>>94497815
Breach and Heroic Reinforcements are probably the fastest win for This Town loops.
Or casting Stoke the Flames at their face 5 times.
You should find a slower wincon though, their suffering is part of the experience.
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Anyone try their luck in the Arena Open today?
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>>94498341
What's that?
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>>94498496
MTGA Limited tournament that happens once per set.
Costs a lot to try to enter.
If you make it to Day 2 you draft to try to win $500/$1000/$2000.
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why does wotc release edh precons but not 60 card precons?
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>>94498702
I think my favorite thing nowadays is just making black dudes horribly uncomfortable around topics they think they're prepared to discuss but actually aren't at all.

Few things bring me more joy in my life.
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>>94498786
because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH because EDH is more popular because 60 card is neglected because they can make more money from EDH
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>>94498786
Think of the secondary market anon.
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>>94492083
Old Kamigawa wasn't a theme park set, no more than Fallen Empires was.

It was a setting with some very unique aspects to it, as was Mercadia, Ravnica, and Alara.

We couldn't stay on Dominaria forever, and we shouldn't have. Several other planes had been established at that point, Ulgrotha, Shandalar, Azola, and Sergovia.

These could have been places to study, though a Japanese plane had been on the table since the original legends set.

In fact, Legends is the reason Kamigawa story takes place right after the brothers war.
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>>94498786
You can make a 40$ commander precon by shoving in Command Tower, Sol Ring, like 10 new cards and filling the rest with cards that ranged from absolute chaff to 10$.because the social contract allows for shitty decks to be viable.
For a 60 card format making a worthwhile precon deck requires you to put in at least two copies of most staple cards for the archetype which world fuck over the secondary market unless you made them like 100$ which would defeat the purpose.
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>>94498927
Or magic could do what most cards games do which is make them just buy 2-3 precons and then allow them to have a fully functioning standard deck that can compete
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>>94498944
Interesting idea, but that would mean constantly having to make new cons every rotation
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>>94498896
Anon was citing a artile by Mark posted last month in where he broke down the eras of card design.
In that their was a concerted effort to make magic its own thing that fell by the wayside when mark took over as head designer.
However what anon gets is that Kamigawa was part of that era and that he extrapolates that because design stopped worrying about that, that creative in general stopped careing when that was never true.
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>>94498952
*what anon gets wrong
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im gay and like cock, what color represents me the most?
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>>94498951
Which is fixed by having sets last in standard for much longer. However unlike other games MTG has no boss monster design to build around like Yugioh, or collector market/competitive playerbase disconnect like Pokemon.
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>>94498962
Red
Its the Zesty Color
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>>94498896
>>94498952
Well, maybe you could call Kamigawa an early warning and Innistrad forwards was the beginning of the theme park.
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>>94498963
That, or put in legacy-format staples to make them worth getting post rotation. The other thing I'm thinking of is just make duel commander more of a thing, but that means killing 60-card constructed
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>>94498976
Kamigawa had a full story with centerpiece characters and also had an ending.
The story was focused on one thing and when it was over it was over
There is a reason they were able to shove a million references in the future set.

Story design is just fucked because good job telling a story in one set which is why they just have random fuckwits we don't care about show up from plane to plane doing random shit
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>>94498976
That could be the case but there is a lot of nuance that I feel the need to look into before making any more declarative statements.
Also Goblin write up anon here, I had to put it on hiatus in part because I am working on a formal literature review for academia.
Also I started reading through the Lorwyn Novels so I can compare them to the Amonkhet stories and in that regard does anyone have copies of the Shadowmoor and Eveningtide books, the archive I use is missing them.
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>story telling
>card game
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>>94499006
Anon if you want I can post a mega link to a like 80% complete archive with thousands of pages of story about this card game.
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>>94498986
>>94499006
It's less about story and more the aesthetical design.
Like the plane being notJapan, notVictorian horror, notAncientEgypt and so on. Dominaria didn't feel like that.
>>94499014
That mega is up, but I wonder what happened to Magus of the Library.
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>>94499031
The one I'm using hasn't been updated in like 2 years so its likely what happened is that people just move on.
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>>94499041
It's a shame. WotC somehow managed to perfectly capture the 15 - 35 autistic male market, and then spent 30 years failing to capitalize on that opportunity.
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>>94499065
Unironically I think Wizards having access to the Pokémon TCG IP till 2003 made them brand to the merits of having their own media for MTG outside of books until the moment had passed.
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>>94499096
^made them blind
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>>94493922
Did you get that signed at a pre-modern event?
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>>94498976
No more than The Homelands (it basically being a Gothic Horror plane) or Masques.

There is in itself nothing wrong with taking a real world culture as an influence and expanding upon that. Honestly Jamuraa was loved for being a fantasy Africa that felt organic, and while distinctly African, also felt unique to its own world.

Shiv is an exaggerated Australia post Urza block. The Fire Isles are just the Ring of Fire. Hell the Church of Serra's design history mirrors the history of the Catholic Church (with north and south being east and west, and it being outlawed but slowly taking over Benelia).

Kamigawa took a mythos, and used it as a inspiration to create something unique and new.
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>>94495659
I mean I have to dismantle decks in MD because I keep making them. I've yet to spend a dime on it.
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>>94499006
>>>/tg/edh
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>>94498816
>>94498927
>secondary market
The secondaries can go suck a fat log. Especially the "investors" who can't handle actual stock trading and have to settle for being parasites on a hobby.
If the cards' price is inflated due to scarcity, it deserves to be lowered by reprints. Strong cards will still be worth a lot, and cool alt art variants will have higher cost too, but the basic variant of any card should never cost higher than $2. This is doubly true for lands.
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>>94498786
Because EDH players will tolerate the precons being actual dogshit and MaRo himself admitted he can't print Modern precons for Modern Horizons because Modern players wouldn't buy a precon without bare minimum shock/fetch manabase and Mark values secondary market more than the health of the actual game.
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>>94499291
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>>94499291
Could be interesting with The Ozolith and Nesting grounds, but 4 color is pretty rough if you don't already own the full fetch/shock/triome suite.
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Loot is not cute.
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>>94499373
wrong
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>>94499366
why would you put bounty counters on your own stuff?
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>>94499389
To bank them for later. Nesting Grounds strategies tend to revolve around putting one counter onto the nest itself, proliferating, and using the nest as a dispenser to break weird abilities that revolve around special counters like divinity, eon, or loyalty.
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I feel so much despair comparing MtG and YGO content creation.
>MtG
Doomposting, financeshittery, or EDH theoryshitting. Not even EDH games just theoryshitting decks and advice because EDH as a format is unwatchable in any context where these theorycrafted decks work, since there's 5+ turns of nothing happening MINIMUM.
>YGO
Literally every content creator watching matches sent in by viewers. Legitimately 80% of the content is actual games while in MtG this feels like maybe 5% of the content with 90% of that 5% being Arena-exclusive bullshit.
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>>94499449
This is what happens when your most popular format is unwatchable and the fantasy of being a full time tournament grinder is dead, so people don't care about your Esports since they can't self insert.
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>>94499449
What the fuck kind of MtG are you watching?
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>>94495691
Maybe I'm blind but I can't find it for shit. Do you remember how many threads ago it was posted?
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>1 year ago
>pauper was a good format
>legacy was a good format
>fast forward now
>both explosive shit heaps

thank you MH3
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>>94500080
Pauper was in worse condition a year ago. It suffers more from Bridges not being banned than MH3 cards.
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>>94500096
nah pauper was bussin a year ago, its just broodscale bonanza nowadays
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>>94499031
My retarded friendo.
You realized that what you describe is part of MtG since God damn Arabian Nights that was just literally using characters from 1001 Nights?
The issue is not irl inspirations in certain planes. This is actually good and gives them familiarity needed to make them attractive. Issue is that in last few years the depth of these references got shittier and things that don't fit into overall fantasy setting of MTG are treated too literal.
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I saw the new stupid wacky saturated color ads for this game while I was watching a live stream on my phone, and I was happy to see that I made the right choice of abandoning this shit reddit TCG after Khans of tarkir.

Thank you for the vindication Mark "When this card enters" Rosewater


https://youtu.be/b_HWuFzHJWA?si=A55tNyDuVkuqX-mG
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>>94495691
>>94500054
I made some "legal fo 5 years" starter decks. The blue one is obviously the worst, but the other ones are okay and the white one is actually pretty good as far as budget decks go.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/oXqi4IaWKEamd9S53aic4w
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>opponent cheats in omniscience
>immediately casts atraxa
oh fun
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>>94500080
Pauper is a scam so investorfags can get paid good money for 25 year old commons.
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>>94500286
Wouldn't Cats be more viable than Angels for mono White?
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>>94500357
Maybe, but I didn't want to build a cat deck
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>be me
>started at new company a few years ago
>colleague gets me into MTG, we play "commander" (really just duel commander) on lunch break with precons
>meet up at the game store a few times to play
>eventually leave company
>colleague ghosts me for some fucking reasons, and I am sure it has nothing to do with me potentially being unlikeable or anything like that
>I have no one to play with
So what now? How does someone with no "inside connections" just go and meet random people to play with?
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>>94500286
>The blue one is obviously the worst
No wonder, you skipped the whole Blue Prowess packet for some reason.
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>>94500464
I went to the LGS and played, it's mostly commander there sadly.
Slowly I'm getting to know people and play other formats. Always being down for draft/limited or non vommander games makes you popular with the non commander crowd.
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>>94500464
Ask the game store staff if there are nights when people show up to play.
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Perhaps I should cut two Impact Tremors. I'm still not torn between making the deck Boros and going full mono-colour Goblins/Cats instead. White really does have a lot of answers in Foundations.
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>>94500464
ask the game staff, check the game store discord, and show up to commander nights.
Most people have multiple decks of various levels and just saying you are new to the store, only have a precon, and so on you should be able to find a pod.

If you want to play other formats ask about what formats exist and if they do draft.
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>>94500483
There isn't a prowess packet. It's four creatures, and two of them suck ass. I would much rather cast Fog Bank and Aetherize.
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>>94500678
>It's four creatures, and two of them suck ass
Nobody tell him.
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>>94500707
I just re-read every blue card in Foundations, and I have no idea what you're on about. Are you thinking to combine the two prowess creatures with the two "draw second card" creatures in a bad aggro deck?
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Any good sales going on right now? I'm thinking about picking up a couple boxes for drafting.
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>love singleton 100 card and having a commander to build around of EDH
>hate the multiplayer aspect and 40 life
>EDH players don't like Historic Brawl/Duel Commander because not multiplayer and it's not played in paper
>other formats (standard, pioneer, modern etc) don't like HB/DC because of its association with EDH
>in the end I'm forced to play EDH in paper, or HB in Arena
>MTGO is soulless slop, with neither the sociality of playing in paper nor the excitement of Arena with its animations and such
Is my dilemma even solvable? Has anyone ever seen a game store with dedicated HB/DC nights?
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>>94496648
I like everything in Outlaws. Probably the best set of the year mechanically.
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>>94501210
isn't that called cedh?
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>>94501210
>Is my dilemma even solvable?
yes, get better taste
having a commander to build around is a crutch for newbies who will never experience the joy of building around a non-creature spell
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>>94501210
>MTGO is soulless slop, with neither the sociality of playing in paper nor the excitement of Arena with its animations and such
Imagine bashing MTGO for the lack of sociality while it has a full in-game chat and praising Arena for anything in the same post. Literally a mental disorder.
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>>94501396
>full in game chat
Wow anon that's incredible. Is that texy chat like AOL? Do you mean to say it's 2024 and 11/12ths and they don't even offer voice chat?
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>>94501379
>Hmm yes I will just slot in 4 atraxas into my 60 card deck. This is far superior than those commander fools.
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Hopefully some anon can help me.

If I wanted to print a buttfuckton of proxies, and I cared to have very nice quality on them, should I get either an inkjet or a laser printer? Can you refill laser printers on your own even, like how you can with an inktank printer?
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>>94501085
how does this win a game
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>>94501489
You should support your local business and look for a quality print shop.
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>>94501210
>>MTGO is soulless slop, with neither the sociality of playing in paper nor the excitement of Arena with its animations and such
reddit goyim kys
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>>94501463
who are you quoting?
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>>94501451
it's more chat function than Arena has so it wins
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>>94501517
Not interested in doing that, and as far as lgs I spend enough on other games there, just not magic
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>>94501498
get omniscience in play via manifest+splash or MYOL
use omni to cast all the big spells for free
uhhhh creature go face and win
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>>94501489
the most important factor is paper thickness, as cards are usually quite thick
if you use the sleeves+commons from the LGS bin+printed inserts method then you need thin paper that won't be noticable; if you're using the "my whole deck is printed and i also have a special cutting table too" method then thicker, almost photograph paper is the way
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>>94501529
Arena emotes have more soul.
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>>94501210
There is Canadian Highlander, but I don't even know where that is played
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>>94501560
How do I know if a printer has nice print quality and detail though? I know I can't get close to official quality, but I want to get as close as I can.

Afaik inkjets are cheapest when the ink is refillable, but laser produces higher quality but the toners are expensive and proprietary. Am I wrong?
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>>94501210
DC is fully supported on MTGO, we even got leagues and challenges back ealier this year, if you want to play 1v1 singleton online with the largest card pool possible, this is the place to do it.
Also this is my opinion but DC is just a vastly superior format to HB, and it's not just because it has more cards, the banlist does a way better job the "hell queue" could ever do.
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>>94501540
>>94501498
You loop invasion of arcavios to cast spells from sideboard over and over, either make a bunch of creatures and give them haste, or burn opponent out
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>>94501529
Judging by the way people use emotes in Arena, I have no real desire to read what they would say to me through an actual chat.
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>>94501804
good thing nobody uses both arena and mtgo so you won't have to deal with emotesloppers and will get actual conversation (or jsut be called the f word by an indian, that also happens)
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>>94501980
Arena is NOT real magic
This is REAL magic
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aieee help me richard not real magic
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>>94500104
you are trolling first of all. personally i think pauper has not been good since daze, gush, and gitaxian probe were banned.
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custom cards are NOT real magic
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>>94502048
is this one of hte dreamcast cards?
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>>94502108
Shandalar
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>>94500311
>cheats in omniscience
if you REALLY though you had a chance after than (since you continued quoting) you should rethink
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>>94501210
1v1 commander (brawl) is objectively the worst format to play so no, you are incurable
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>>94501463
yes, you just counter
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>>94491704
It should just say it loses its creature typing.
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>>94501560
the bulk foils+acetone method is nice
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>>94502237
tru, but it requires acetone and i am sick of using that shit at work so i'll never touch it for recreational purposes, even with gloves on
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>>94502084
Is that... is that a firearm? Like, a real one? Just sitting there menacingly? Sorry but that's just too problematic for our game featuring torture, murder, sacrifice, blood rituals, and gore.
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>>94501980
just two more weeks...
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>>94498962
red black if top
green red if bottom
white red if switch
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When will a non aggro deck be the best again?

I want to play something else what can you recommend?
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>>94501620
Canada
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>>94502738
>when will a deck that doesn't want to win be best at winning?
never, i'm afraid
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>>94502663
cannons aren't firearms retard
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Is dimit midrange without sheoldred viable? I don’t want to pay 80€ for a card that is not legal in a year.
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>>94503033
Sure. Like half the lists have her only in the sideboard anyway, so just play Archfiend in her spot.
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>tired: rule 206.3c
>wired: rule 2.6.3.c
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>>94499373
Industry plant ass mascot. I'd rather the use Phelia
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>>94500311
>opponent casts S&T
>i, playing lands, put in urza's saga while he puts in omni
>trigger from saga gives me priority before he can cast anything
>i cast force of vigor or use bosiju or whatever
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>>94501210
>the excitement of Arena with its animations and such
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What is the most degenerate deck? I want to see how bad this game gets. From the last 3 years preferably
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>>94503421
What format?
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>>94503033
yes, there are some matchups where sheoldred feels really good but the deck is 100% playable without her

>>94503421
legacy breach was pretty degenerate
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I try to play silly little deck > I get paired against wubrg slop or alchemy fanfiction > I play a deck with blue in it and give my opponents headaches for the rest of the day > I try to play a silly little deck
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feels good to draft the open lane
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>>94503421
nadu in every format pre-ban obv
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>>94503564
imagine Nadu and Oko (the good one) in one valuepile deck
god it'd be disgusting
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Streets of New Capenna was such a waste of a good aesthetic. They should do another set but ditch the gangster shit wholesale
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>>94503779
they’ve escalated from distinct hat planes to half of all product is UB. As soon as games are diluted to a sloppy pile of different IPs MtG is going to die. It’s almost time. The reserve list will be the last thing to go.
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It just won’t feel good having lord of the rings SpongeBob marvel assassins creed piles. You and your friends and opponents will feel stupid. Content creators will feel stupid. Everyone will slowly stop talking about the game and find something else, selling their collections for whatever they can get in the process as prices will have sunk in the coming years. Hope you’re reading this Maro.
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>>94503869
Retards that don't care about Magic will flock and generate record sales when the game becomes Funko Pop: the TCG. The people who lose are the ones that kept this game alive for 30 years. The ultimate slap in the face.
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>>94503634
people did that in vintage
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=56821&d=623820&f=VI
it was fun
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>>94503941
Those types don’t want complex traditional games. They’ll buy a pack and make a social media post of their Handsmaid Tale wife card but they won’t keep the game alive. They probably already have a lot of sunk cost into Pokemon TCG too. Magic will die.
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SAY THE LINE!
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>>94504480
We’re monitoring it and we don’t see any issues so far but we might in another year or so when Marvel drops.
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evens buy a set of p9
odds buy my stepson a porsche
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>>94504480
modern is a nonrotating format
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>>94504480
healthy meta
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>>94504480
It's really obscene how WotC let Modern get this bad. I mean what the fuck...
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>>94504540
It needs more free spells and one and two drops with paragraphs of text
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Is it true? Is Elon really going to save Magic?
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>>94504546
>ocelot pride cycle
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When you do a thing that requires an answer right away develop an insurmountable lead in which you’ll win unless the opponent casts the One Ring.
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>>94504567
hopefully he buys Hasbro, all the women and lefty queers will self deport because elon is fascist or some other "ist" and what will be left is white men who can then put things back on track, it should in theory take the financial pressure off WOTC to carry the whole company so they can then focus on making good sets instead of just searching for ways to suck as many shekels out of the player base before the game implodes.
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>>94501980
>>94502666
>>94504480
the ring getting banned is a given but if they ban phlage instead of guide of souls or/and amped raptor i'm gonna be so mad
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>>94492455
is this bait
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>>94504739
yes.
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How do players usually avoid archfiend of the dross' negative effect
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>>94504915
Winning
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>>94504915
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>>94504915
it's a 6/6 with flying that pings the opponent for 2 when their creatures die, of you're attacking with it every turn and killing their creatures with removal, you should end the game before the last oil counter is removed
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>>94504915
They don't. Card is one of the biggest traps I've seen and I've never once lost to it. My opponents have been killed by their own Archifiend though.
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>>94504915
kill it as fast as possible
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>>94503779
L take. Streets was peak kino.
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>>94505045
>>94503779
mtg is so puzzled and shit now that even new capenna, a set that had a really poor and shit story/worldbuilding (and lots of incoherence), is praised as a good set.

WotC really likes to shit on the dead corpse of mtg, shame.
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>>94505045
The 1920s just does not belong in magic, same as the 1980s for duskmorn.
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>>94505091
keep crying reddit bitch
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>>94505177
You have shit taste anon. You don't even have to be into gangster shit to like Streets
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>>94505227
wild that they gave that card unique promo art for every language the game is printed in (I think it doesn't even print in some of these anymore)
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>>94505227
See that art looks fine, Art Deco is fine, its Probation Era Mobsters, Tommy Guns, and refined Cars that drag it down.
When it comes to tech, Mirrodin is the optimal way to express hyper advanced artifice but I can live with Kaladesh.
New Cappena takes to far.
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>>94505227
>>94505045
This guy's art is cool, it looks like Old Magic™
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>>94505296
The cars/vehicles in Streets are not that far off from Kaladesh vehicles
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>>94504689
funny enough guide of souls is the only one that actually gets one for one answered by removal
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>>94505307
Agreed, I can't believe that's a 2022 card
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>>94505351
So does ocelot pride.
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>>94505324
The Cars in Kaldesh are either big tanky things or are weird dragsters with 2-3 wheels. Capenna Cars are just cars from the 1920s but with glowy bottoms instead of wheels. And again I can only live with Kaladesh not that I like it and that mostly because of stuff like the Gearhulks not the cars.
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>>94505403
Compare to
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>>94500104
>3 mana A+B combo
>Slots easily into a midrange shell or full combo shell with interaction
>Only way to stop it is to kill them faster than they kill you
I am starting to see a fuckin' pattern here lads...
Can't put my place on it tho...
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>>94504689
This looks like AI art.
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>>94489635
feast
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>>94505787
are you a rat?
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Back when i used to play this shit game, I liked to skim through my LGS lands for old sets and have every land card be unique. kind of a vanity collection of my favorite sets, settings, artists, or piecs.

I would ask what your favorite land artworks are but I figured most people would post the old John Avon lands.

You're welcome to post or list your favorite pieces of land artwork, but since most lands have wonderful or decent art I kind of want to see what you guys consider AWFUL land artwork.

Like, what sets or artists or prints come to mind when you think of poorly done lands? I never much cared for the weird shadowed Innistrad art personally.
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>>94505374
yeah but opening guide->pride makes the deck go and they're just not gonna ban energy cards or chase mythics from the new set because thats what moves packs, and they're not going to ban specifically any MH3 cards at all because doing so after the whole Nadu thing is basically admitting they fucking suck at designing cards and upsetting entrenched players is way less of a hit than the public at-large catching wind of a set so terribly designed they had to bury a bunch of cards out behind the woodshed ESPECIALLY when they're trying real fuckin' hard to attract more pack-crackin' timmys with Foundations right now.
Ring eats it, everything else stays. Tourneyfags grumble and continue to consoom to prep for the next RCQ season, Timmy is blissfully unaware.
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>>94506382
>Tourneyfags grumble and continue to consoom to prep for the next RCQ season
This bothers me profoundly. I see people on Twitter whining about x card being overpowered or y deck being cancer, yet they not only continue to play the format but in many cases even the deck themselves. When you point out their hypocracy they just make an excuse. It's a GAME, play it for fun.
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>>94504689
I rather Phlage gets banned then guide of souls, as guide has more synergy with energy then Phlage, despite having a phlage playset myself.
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>>94506378
I'm more into gurulands, but some of the international set like the sunflower plains are nice too
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>>94506543
>hypocracy [sic]
What the fuck is hypocritical about playing a deck you think is (too) strong in tournaments?
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New thread

>>94506781

>>94506781

>>94506781
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>>94504567
No. He was basically just riffing and saying "I could fix all this if I bought it", he was never seriously suggesting he'd buy it.
Also, given Twitter, he'd probably make it even worse.
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>>94496648
Energy isn't new but I liek that it's back.



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