Previous: >>94479369>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/Thread Question/Prompt: Which land would you want to live in?
Gay Bolas
Is Saruman of Many Colors any fun and is he even good?He seems expensive, requires set up, is mana hungry, and requires your opponents playing decks that will have a payoff.I don't really like esper and wanted to try to play an esper deck
>>94492537I exclusively play with proxiesCheckmate paypig
>turn up to play last night with friends>for 3 of them it was their first time playing with decks they made from scratch>we whip out our decks>3 of them are orzhovDespite that sillyness it was a real fun time and I hope you guys have some fun games this weekend.
>>94492763Did you guys kiss afterwards and then everyone clapped?
>>94492767Stop thinking about men kissing and just be normal anon.
>>94492610>I don't really like esper and wanted to try to playLook for a different commander then if you're uncertain.He's good because you're in esper, his payoff is meh and bad players overestimate how scary mill/theft is
>>94492771No. Billions must kiss men
I really need to blogpost this because it genuinely pissed me off>stopped playing Warhammer about a year ago because I fell out of love with it. Started playing MtG again for the first time in years>started going to a new FLGS to play because the one I regularly went to for Warhammer had a terrible Magic community>old FLGS always has a huge clearing house Black Friday sale, go check it out>look at Warhammer stuff and the sale kind of sucks. BOGO 50% on the lowest price of the two. Used to be a flat 40-50% off all items>ok whatever they’ve got a huge pile of booster boxes for OTJ and MKM. Not the most well received sets but I could go for cracking some packs>flip a box of MKM over and see discount price sticker for $140>”wait… isn’t this basically the normal price of a booster box?”>see a second sticker for $250. Every box is priced this way>ask guy at the register if this is the discount price>yes>ask if they normally sell booster boxes for $250>”Well it’s an older set so it’s worth more”>so blown away at how retarded that answer was that I set the box down and leave>go to the new FLGS I play at and buy a box of MKM at their Black Friday sale for $80I don’t know if something changed at my old store but that left a bad taste in my mouth. I’m assuming most people are smart enough to not get taken for a ride on that ripoff “deal” based on how many boxes were still sitting there, but the fact that the store was doing it at all is fucked
Will you still play commander after Elon Musk buys hasbeo?
>>94492581Want to be a mono blue menace, Pic related or teferi temporal archmage?>Nezahal boardwipe extra turn tribal>Teferi kpool lock big blue creature control.
>>94492610>6 mana commander not in greenIt is bad
>>94492905*taps you*You are now man pregnant
>>94492805My flgs didn't have anything on sale for black Friday.
>>94492581https://www.moxfield.com/decks/mgIOyyjiwkuan8l7vjoYAAWhat would you cut, or add? Don't really want to buy cards that are >$4
>>94492952Mine has 12 MTG items for sale (not on sale).4 of them are preorders for innistrad remastered, 3 of them are playmatsIt's bleak
>bored and want to make a new deck>combo is shit>already have too many turn cards sideways decks>already have gimmick decks built>only Commander/deck theme that grabs my attention is Triplets/Theft>only place I can get consistent games is a local games night in the community center >friendly with the players but not friends>know they'll refuse to play with the deck because their decks are mid to low power and they won't trust me touching the cardsFuck it, clones with STAX/removal heavy it is I guess. If they don't want me to touch their cards they won't get to either.
>>94492981>Don't really want to buy cards that are $4Then don't. You do realize every card in this game is >.60¢ right?
>>94492805>When you realize LGS owners are scummier jews than WotCI have stores around me from which I refuse to buy no matter what even if they are the only ones offering a certain product.
>TQpic relatedI'm looking for something that I don't know the name to. I'm going to use the term "shared deck format" but I'm sure it has a more stylish name that I just don't know yet.Something like Forgetful Fish, where both players draw from the same deck. I have what I call my "Sudden Death" deck (a deck idea I stole where the entire game happens in one upkeep) and I just decided to build my own Forgetful Fish deck. I like the minigame aspect, creating an insulated format that anyone familiar to magic can play at a moment's notice. I know there's Wizards's Tower and Judge's tower. They both sound cool and I will probably build them both in time, just looking for any more ideas at all. some mediocre google searching turns up a lot of dandan clones in different colors, not really what I'm looking for.tl;dr - please share any formats you know of that would fit into the same category as forgetful fish, judge's tower, or wizard's tower. (or any cool concepts for a wizard's tower)
>tq>playing commander in LGS with randos, two of them are tranny's>One tranny using an equipment voltron deck>He goes to attach his equipments>Tap land and give his creature prot artifacts>He gets butt mad>Keep doing this all game>He rage quits>other tranny gets up with him and calls me an asshole>tfw knocked two delusional people out with one land
>>94493086>fag finds himself alone and with no one that wants to spend time with himPretty common
>>94493488Based
>>94492581>Thread Question/Prompt: Which land would you want to live in?Nephalia Academy, because it means there's a small chance I would get to meet Thalia, and possibly even have her fall in love with me. I know I shouldn't say these things when I have a girlfriend and my girlfriend expects me to marry her soon, but I cant help it. Soemtimes I do still think of Thalia, but in a different way. I feel like now that I'm not as much in love with her as I was a few years ago I could apparoach her a little leas one sidedly. Either way it doesn't really fucking matter. I wish I could just forget she existed so I would not have anyone to compare my girlfriend to. That would be better.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94493544Bro Thalia lives in Thraben not Nephelia.
Teysa is a highclass hooker
>>94493793There's no land for thraben and she was born in nephalia.
I've discovered the secret to winning commander night at my LGS and it's just playing a deck where the solution to stopping it is a board wipe. Some players are philosophically opposed to them for "slowing down the game" and other players run like 1-2 for whatever reason. My awful changeling/lord tribal deck has somehow gone undefeated for over a month now.
>>94492581What are some good timmy commanders that can cheat out creatures and make somewhat hard to break boards? Something like Vigor, Stonehoof Chieftan, Avacyn, Tajuru Protector, etc?Kona? Animar? Maybe something else?
I can't read the word nephalia without thinking of that hyperpreg dude
Can I get some feedback on my Marrow-Gnawer deck?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ry9ujRlz8k6Pwtw4TSrX-wI feel like 25 rat colonies is pretty good and enough for thrumming stone to be of use.
>>94493931I always start thinking about Hetalia when I see it
>>94494001Not much go give feedback on as lands and rat colony make up 60% of your deck but you don't bolas citadel seems just in there because
>>94494024Ooos i had a different sentence typed out but only deleted most of it
Did you get any good black Friday/cyber weekend deals on cardboard?
>>94493813Getting this card in the next hour.Love the art
>>94493107I knew there were some bad ones but it bums me out seeing a place I used to play at so often outright trying to jew their customers. Not sure if it was always like that for MtG or not because I had only ever dealt with them previously playing Warhammer, but I guess I’m happier playing and buying from the FLGS I frequent now.
>>94494152Fuck it didnt arrive in this batch.Did get some other spensy cards though
>>94493813>>94494152For me, it's the date stamped original print. As I grow older I start to appreciate the date stamped cards more and more
I really hope the sandy cheeks card will let me do something with artifacts so I can use door to nothingness with her as the cock vore reference
It took me a few attempts, but I think I got the list in a good spot for now. I struggled with card draw for a while, but I think I have enough now.https://archidekt.com/decks/10289997/getting_boros_right
>>94493813Her own uncle and advisor put her under a hypnosis enchantment and pimped her out to Ravnica's elite every night. By morning she'd forget and interact with these save elites as an Orzhov legislature, not remembering she'd taken their dicks a few night before while in her mind controlled sex slave state. This is actual MtG canon, from the novel Guildpact.
>>94494243But you already have leadership vacuum for all your whirr vore needs
>>94494253Looks pretty good other than your landbase, far too many tap lands. I would honestly run basics over most of those tap lands.
>>94494373Which ones would you cut?
>>94494353that's pretty good too. what other cards would fit this. cyc rift?
>>94494383>Alpine Meadows, Sacred Peaks, Rustvale BridgeFrom what i see you don't have anything that takes advantage of them having land types or being artifact so they are literally just taplands. out>Abraded Bluffs, Wind-scarred Craig, Temple of TriumphEntering tapped is far more likely to fuck you over than whatever little effect they have is to help you win. out>Mistveil PlainsIs there combo i'm not seeing? Out unless i'm stupid and there is one.
Path to Exile is good and more decks should run it
>>94494460I can loop stuff with Sunforger. Then again, I don't usually have enough white permanents to get Mistveil Plains on consistently.
>>94494469This, but Mirage Mirror. Pay 2 to basically become the best thing on the board
>>94494233I feel ya, especially if you were there to get your own
I've realized that Urza's Bauble and Mishra's Bauble are auto includes, one day you will too.
>>94494507Explain your reasoning anon
TQLove this art.
>>94494525Deck thinning, threshold enabling, storm enabling, mox opal enabling, there's never a downside to having them both.
>>94494560>Laughs in ouphe
>>94493105thank you for your reddit non answer
>>94494480So it's in your deck because it SOMETIMES synergizes with ONE card in your deck that isn't even your commander?Out.
>>94494404
Starting with Aetherdrift, booster boxes will have 30 packs instead of 36. Same price though. Thanks, wizards.https://mtg.cardsrealm.com/en-us/articles/magic-starting-with-aetherdrift-boxes-will-have-fewer-booster-packs
>>94494753>Box prices may decrease with this change, but MSRP for booster pack remains the same.Made me click your clickbait, hopefully the 0.2 cents you got are worth it.
>>94494503yeah, still use pic related sometimes
>>94494590I love this lil' nigga like you wouldn't believe. Fuck treasureniggers and urza degenerates
>>94494700Could add this for some extra card draw.
>>94493227>mercadian masques>>94493488>mercadian masques>>94494536>mercadian masqueswhat is it about this set that's so soothing?
>>94494890Forgot pic, fuck
post the deck you're currently working on
>>94494923https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10194257/urzas_factory_reduxTrying to get the last of the cuts done before I go to my dad's for the night, only 10 more.
>>94494955>Inquisitor Greyfax>Cyberman Patrol>Esperzoa in combo??????>Midnight Clock
>>94495030Esperzoa is very good for degenerate combos involving cast/etb triggers. >Cast The One Ring>tap it to draw>gain protection from everything>return it to your hand>order the triggers so you lose 0 life from the one ring>cast it again>repeat forever
>>94495043>lose 0 life from the one ringthat's not how it works. if you bounce the ring with the trigger on the stack it checks last known info of counters and you lose life
>>94494955>thassa's oracle
>>94494903Mercadia had a really solid understanding of the classic Sword and Sorcery aesthetic, in particular with its coastal regions and artwork. It easily evokes stuff like the Conan stories as well as the classic Sinbad-style magic swashbuckler films (Theif of Baghdad, Jason and the Argonauts, etc...).
>>94495030>Greyfax/PatrolOne of the primary ideas for this deck is combat with Karnstructs, so giving them all vigilance and afflict 3 feels like a good idea. Granted, they also serve dual purpose in being a cheap artifact creature for Urza Affinity and a "control" method of dealing with creatures I don't like and making clues for draw.>EsperzoaI really wanna get multiple value triggers out of casts and cool ETBs like Mirrorworks, Simulacrum Synthesizer, and The One Ring>Midnight ClockI ended up cutting Silver Myr to justify keeping it because a timetwister is kinda based>>94495065Thoracle/Consultation are pretty much my big red button for games where I don't feel like punching harder with robots is gonna win it for me. Same with Time Sieve, but that takes a couple more cards so it's more of a backup.
>>94494254Sovl...
>>94494718I really am doing a cock vore deck aren't I
>>94495100rule 0 it in, it was made for this
>>94495166this, or edit it to be used as an artifact token of some sort
>>94495078it has some cuties too
>>94494718I fucking loathe the art, but man do I love this card in standard. I wonder if this would be any good in edh?
>>94495088but what's the point? why try to build a casual esper urza and not a competitive blue urza? why do you have to use combos that instantly win the game or lock people out? this sin't a "casual" deck anymore it's a pubstomper
>>94495088>I'm not winning the way my deck is designed to win >time to make the game end in an unsatisfying and flavorless way like a fucking faggot
Should I make a spell slinging mono red zada or a white weenies?Who is the best white weenie commander?
>>94495299retard hands wrote this post
>>94495296>>94495299>winning bad>combos bad>no one should win>backup win conditions badpic related, it's you
>>94495310>make causal deck>too much of a hyper competitive faggot to stick to making a casual deck that could lose so adds in oracle combo any time they could lose
>>94495339there is absolutely positively zero thing wrong with winning
>>94495336>>94495346You faggots either don't play the game or are the most insufferable faggots to play with
It's play to win, not build to faggotry
>>94495296I found that when playing the Monoblue Urza, I wasn't really doing much more than making games super long and my innate desire to punch with robots was always much slower than I wanted. This Urza makes them in the command zone and gives me access to more colors. As for the Thoracle/Consultation/Time Sieve thing, why not have a secondary plan to win?>>94495299I have my doubts anyone is gonna cheer for when I go for infinite turns with Time Sieve because it's more 'flavorful' than just ending a game with Thoracle. If combat isn't working, having a plan or two in my back pocket seems like the right thing to do.
>>94495360>if i lose he insufferable>if he win he insufferableretard hands
>>94495385>my causal deck needs infinite turns and oracle combo because otherwise I could lose
>>94494923Gargos pump spells and cantriphttps://www.archidekt.com/decks/10138624/gargos_prioMostly seeking to win through commander damage but got venerated rotpriest in there for another fun wincon
>>94495391>winning bad
>>94494903It's very soft watercolor, deliberately different than Urza-lands(which are more harsh oil paintings) that came before it.>>94495065I wish this was 1 cycling then I could use it more easily.Love Heather Hudson art.
>>94495299>oh no a faggot is faggottingColor me shocked.
>>94495418>samefagging to defend your shit take
>>94495403This isn't a fucking 1v1 competitive format faggot.Do you see people shoving oracle combo into every fucking deck that could add it?
>>94495431>winning>bad>unless it me!!!
>>94495391i wouldn't even describe the $3000 urza deck as casual, it's pushing the limit of power before reaching for cedh viability. classic DEDH, sword just needs to stop calling it casual when it's clearly a pubstomper
>>94495440agreed but>DEDHwhat the fuck is that
>>94495447degenerate, i.e. high power but not cedh viable. i think most players will eventually settle to this power level given enough time and money invested into the hobby
>>94495465That's a cute term, I like it and I will be stealing it. Not competitive but not casual.
>>94495440>swordput your trip back on no one calls you by "name" here
>>94495487stop being crazy considering this person is insulting swordfag and swordfag is the one who said this is a causal deck.If this is a casual deck for him his store is the least casual thing in existence or he is incapable of building a casual deck
>>94495487listen dude i also think he's a fag but your tripfag radar hit a false positive this time
>>94495506>>94495501>two instant defensive postshmm..
No one expects the Chance for Glory kill in all-Boros tribal.
>>94495501>he is incapable of building a casual deckprobably this. all the decks he posts here are expensive or seem less casual like Coram, Sidar, Xyris, and whoever that new bird bitch is from BLB.
>>94495520It's silly how fast and hard this deck goes.
>>94495299>>94495296>backup wincons are bad actually!!!
>>94495431no but they definitely should
>>94495680combo is not a "backup" wincon
>>94495694Why not
>>94495310>>94495336>>94495346>>94495385>>94495403>>94495429>>94495439>>94495680>>94495685all me btw
>>94495680If the backup win is strictly better than your actual win, it's not a backup. It's your wincon.
>>94495512Ntas, but there are sycophants and fag enablers in this genera.
>>94495728how am I supposed to trust you will not beeline for the better 2 card wincon when you couldn't help yourself to not add one in the first place
>>94495754brother, you just blew my mind and btfo that tard
I want to build a spirit deck, is this a decent commander?
>>94495754That doesn't follow. The wincon that i go to when my primary one falls through is my backup wincon anon
>>94495789if you just want to play spirit tribal than yes if you want to just make spirit tokens then Ranar the Ever-Watchful or Hofri Ghostforge exist
>>94495789Basically the "best" spirit commander so he's kinda the default.
I added so much removal on a stick to my deck that I actually stomped everyone because nothing of theirs stuck. then I just run over with my kavus and nekrataals after protecting against a single wipe. I feel like this will shift our value pile meta a bit but will it become more counterspell heavy or stax? any experiences like this?
I got pretty lucky today from my Foundations bundle. Got a few pieces I was looking for, and some surprise heat. Anyone got any Progenitus tips? I was thinking WUBRG big creatures. A Clash of the Titans if you will.
>>94495941Most groups will not know why you're doing better and just complain about you killing too much of their stuff.
>>94495945Celestial Armor garbo
>>94495369(You)
hold on. when I cast amphibian downpour and copy it due to it's storm ability, do the copies actually target? I know an aura can go onto a shrouded creature from the grave so is copying the same?
>>94495989nvm it literally says choose new targets
>friend builds a "chill goblin deck">krenko>another krenkoaiiieeeeee
>>94496055>it's another krenko deck that wins by playing impact tremors
>>94495989>>94496017Auras target regardless. I don’t remember what rule it is but I had to look it up for Yenna Redtooth Regent
>>94496133Then you're stupid for thinking you can't hit Hexproof/Shrouded things with copied auras after looking it up.
>>94496055>>94496118>it's a krenko combo episode
WotC has done their everything to shorten absolutely anything they can to the point of retardation, from removing mana pool, any target, enters and the main phases, but then they add "of their choice" to everything that causes someone to sacrifice permanents, which is completely unnecessary. Why? Sacrifice was always up to the person who had to do it, aside from very specific cases like Ashling, the Extinquisher.
>it's a krenko deck that wins with Altar of Dementia
>>94496118>>94496155We took him aside after and told him how not fun it was to play against. It was like his 2nd ever deck that he made on his own and he thought it would be fun.He won on turn 5
>>94496187>get your ass kicked by the new guy>pull him aside for serious discussion on unwritten ruleskwab
>>94496179>Ashling, the ExtinquisherI am going to have sex with this female Cinder from Shadowmoor. I find the female Cinders in Magic the Gathering: Eventide sexy. However, their body is made up of 87% fire, and 100% fire surrounds them. That could kill me if I tried to have sex with one. To remedy this, the Cinder casts a spell on me making me resistant to wither. Keep in mind, resistant is not the same as immune. I still take damage. It is either 1 point or 0 points of damage each second I am having sex with her. Just because a particular second caused 0 points of damage, does not mean that I did not feel anything, It just means that I received no -1/-1 counters. I am not going to rush through having sex with this Cinder, I make sure I pleasure anything I have sex with, especially non-humans! I'd rather take damage than not pleasure the Cinder.The Cinder and I go to Lorwyn to have sex. When having sex with non-humans, it is ALWAYS sexier to have sex in their natural habitat rather than a human's natural habitat.Before we went into the Lorwyn, the Cinder let all the kindreds know that we are just here for sex. The kindreds will not attack us because they know I am here at Lorwyn on sexual business. This includes the Ashenmoor. However, the Ashenmoor Liege thinks that I am going to be an easy recruit for becoming a follower of Demigod of Revenge considering that I am having sex with a Cinder. However, I have no interest in becoming Rakdos.
>he can't beat krenkoweenie hut jr hours, good friends would play removal
>>94496200>weenie hut jr hoursyes, literally what this format is
>>94496198As fun as the read was, you can't become a dremora.
>>94496197We are all new guys
>Be based always haver>First opponent goes for their combo>I disrupt him>Passes turn tapped out>The next opponent is now free to combo out because the other 2 can't pull their weightAnd this is fun again how?
>>94494121Yes. I finally got my Foundations collector box with a decent discount due to a huge delay. Also got a foil retro frame Straight Bolas but not decided yet on the deck I would build with him.
>>94496211edh should not be the entrypoint to magic, there's too much shit to keep track of
>>94495770Why would you? At that point it's no longer the main wincon and the combo is. He says combat is the primary wincon so it is.
>>94492610Tivit and Tymna+Malcolm are good Esper decks. Most people play with bad decks, so it doesn't really matter what is good and what isn't. Depends entirely on your local meta.Saruman can be fun, if you like playing control. It's a difficult deck to build and play though. You'll need a LOT of mana, a mix of cheap and expensive instant speed spells and before you can gain any value, you'll need to mill everyone.
>>94496241happened too many times
>>94494560>>94494507lol nope. Git probe is way better, yet nobody plays it outside of Doomsday decks. EDH has enough good cards to play unless you're limited by colors, so there's very few reasons to play cantrips. You'd rather draw a good card than skip your draw.
>>94496380Then people can learn.
>>94496515we should round up all new players and lock them in the limited gulag for 1000 hours
>>94496556based
>play with new player>goes for “fun” play>kingmakesWhy does this happen every fucking time?
>card would go great in the 99 of my counters deck>art is sloppa, full art is worse>character is forced and unlikeable>card is cheap as shit so I can't even justify going out of my way to proxy it
>>94496592You can hardly complain when you’re a simic tranny playing +1/+1 slop
>>94496582because their deckbuilding skills and in-game sequencing are often not up to snuff with the rest of the table, so they back another player to feel like they still won in a sense
>>94496615Nah that’s not it. It’s more like they have no awareness of the game state or what plays COULD be made, so they do something retarded that doesn't actually disadvantage everyone equally thereby putting 1 obviously in the lead
>>94496582king making is a legitimate thing. This is not a team game. You are not playing valorant.
>>94496632You’re right, it’s not a team game, so when 1 player does something that advantages another player, it is extremely disruptive
>>94496640And legitimate. No one is here to ensure you have a better chance of winning or an outcome you like. You are playing a competitive game.
>>94496649>keeps trying to take the “this is a competitive game” high ground>advocates for players not playing competitivelyWhat did he mean by this?
you are all kings in my eyes
How many big bomb creatures should average reanimator deck have?
>>94496790if you mill 5 you should hit a nice reanimate target, so I would say 20
>>94496592Sucks to have autism.
>>94492581WotC should make a land cycle where the lands come tapped to the field put you can exile them without tapping to add any type of mana. Also TQ.
>>94496790~6. Depends a lot on whether you're doing self-mill, entomb effects, or discard. Essentially you want to make sure you draw a reanimate target and enabler consistently but rarely draw two of one and zero of the other.
question: does comeuppance deal as much dmg to every creature that it prevented in total or does it deal dmg to each separately depending on how much the source tried to deal?for example if 2 3/4s attacked, does it do 3 to both or 6?
>>944969493 to both. It's unique instances of separate damage, but Comeuppance is the source of all of them.
>>94496660As are you in mine.
Show me your 50 USD budget decks, guys
>>94497194Here's my budget artifacts brew, it's nice to be able bust it out at casual tableshttps://www.archidekt.com/decks/10194257
>>94495166>voracious vacuumohnononono
>>94492610Make the new Aminatou unless you already have an enchantment deck. The most natural way to build it is to stuff things that draw you cards to hopefully miracle into things on the opponent's turn, but the subcommander of the deck is an interesting twist on self-mill enchantment recurral.
>>94496187>AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KRENKO-SAMA PLEASE SPARE MY LIFE I JUST WANNA PLAY MY SHITPILE IN PEACE STOP IT STOP IT STOOOOOP
>>94496582“Kingmaking” is something shitters whine about because they didn’t get to win. Nobody owed you a victory
>>94497841and for the rest of days, people will target you first, because they know that you play like a dick.
>>94497880No, you will do it and the other two won't, and then you'll lose even worse for making terrible decisions out of "revenge"
>Opponent gets degenerate boardstate>Beat them>Get ganged up onevery time
>>94497841THIS. if you're not able to beat down three other idiots singlehandedly can you really say you won
Is Commander Masters draft fun?
>>94497952i don't know, i've never drafted it
>>94497927Nah, they'll do too, because playing with irrational dicks isn't really fun and it ensures that you don't fuck them over just because you can. Besides, revenge is actually the best strat. It teaches people that actions have consequences.
>Tired of winning turn 3/4 with chatterfang>Card pool too limited for any other deck
>>94497975based kingmaker
>>94492763How does Orzov work? I've got Ratadrabik, MacCready, Col Autumn, and Bartolomé; I'm curious to build with them.
>TQGrim Monolith
>>94497789I hate miracle and constant top deck manipulation
>>94498112You don't have t manipulate it beyond the Commander's inherent surveil 2, you can just run a bunch of draw payoffs and if you get a cheaper piece at instant speed on an opponent's turn, cool.
>>94498112vased VVIZARDreminds me of the lost bastille from dark souls 2
>>94495694You're a retard
>>94498292no u
building Evereth from the new jumpstart, since it's rakdos treasures that doesn't use them to just cheat out big stuff. any spicy tech? I'm trying to avoid any aristocrats pieces to drain, and rather focusing on making Evereth as big as possible and instantly killing everyone.
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>>94493488And then everyone clapped.
>>94498337Combos can be backups
My opponent has an Arcane Signet (mana rock) and no other untapped land and it's my turn. I cast Qasali Slingers and target the mana rock to destroy it. But then my opponent tried to tap the Arcane Signet to cast a Path to Exile and exile my card before its triggered ability could resolve. Can he do that?
>>94498365Tainted Strike. Remember, her last ability hits all opponents. Make them suffer the consequences of their actions.
where do you get inspiration for a deck? I've been wanting to make a new one for awhile but nothing really has been interesting to me.I normally play pretty high interactivity spellslinger decks
>>94498442yes, but you still get the etb and kill the Arcane SignetWhen it etbs the triggered ability goes on the stack and it can be responded to, but the ability will still resolve without the creature being there
>>94498442It has to be on the battlefield to be hit with Path to Exile so its ability is already on the stack. Even after its exiled the rock would still be destroyed. He would have had to counter the creature spell before it resolved, or had something that countered abilities being triggered.
>>94498453That will make everyone mad.
What are the legitimate forms of winning?
>>94498454I look at a commander and want to build it or see a card and want to put it in a deckWhat decks do you have
>>94498489Combat only
>>94498493but not too quickly. Also commander damage is gay, as is poison.
>>94498489･ﾟ: *･ﾟ:* Thoracle is valid and so are you <3 *:･ﾟ*:･ﾟ
>>94498537Put your trip back on
>>94498487>That will make everyone mad.Grow a pair. If anyone complains let them know they let her get to 10 power and didnt have removal for it on the stack and/or kill her beforehand.
>>94498542Put your clover back on
>>94498578God that looks painful.
>>94498583yeah, eldrazi sucks
>>94498489This is the most legitimate and masculine win condition in the format.
>>94498215Does Chippy sell art prints or proofs?
>>94498615he's one of the artists that no one has anyway to contact and doesn't go to events anymore
>>94496296You do know the company that makes that brand of tea is run by a cult, right?
>>94498489Not net-decking and being under a 100$ budget.
>>94496380Earlier, I was playing against a guy running the esper Warhammer 40K precon who was a first timer. Dude was pretty chill compared to my other two opponents who were total spergs.
>>94498716the founder is not part of the company anymore so no it isn't ran by a cult
>>94498721i just meant that edh is more difficult to learn than a more limited 1v1 format, new players are definitely more pleasant to play with than stereotypical neckbeards who have a couple decades under their belts
>one saved copy of deck on Tappedout is "98% competitive">literally copy and paste into a new saved deck>"98% casual"what a retarded site. which sites are better for deck building?
>>94494590sometimes i wonder how many scoops i could cause just by making this my commander for my crawwurm deck
What are some good value pieces to put in a rakdos deck? I want to build a more value oriented control deck with Laurine and Kamber. Basically repeatable card draw effects or total value engines. I don't want to win with infinite mana combos unless I really need to. I'm new, and I know rakdos isn't the color for control and value but I want to try it out.
>Build deck>think it's good>play it>it never quite comes online how you want it>do swaps with the pod>guy across from you pops off with the deck in the precise way you think it shouldIt's a conflicted kind of feel to be a better brewer than pilot.
>>94498489Darksteek Citadel
>>94498489>>94498792Fuck I meant reactor
God I love Powerbalance>Be me, playing Izzet>Play Powerbalance because it's fun and because I have lots of topdeck manipulation in the deck>Draw zero pieces of topdeck manip>Fuck it we'll go in blind>Twelve triggers of Powerbalance>Zero hits>Ms. Bumbleflower player has killed one player already with a thick ledger shredder, life totals are 10 (monoblack aristocrats), 6 (me), 3 (Ms. Bumbleflower)>monoblack player plays a five drop>I believe in the heart of the cards>Reveal Lier, Disciple of the Drowned>Bumbleflower can't swing the shredder at me because I can bolt them in response>Swings shredder at aristocrats guy>He doom blades it in response>Reveal counterspell off the top
>>94498489
>>94498763Since you're going to be generating artifacts ambiently, I would suggest you give affinity decks a look. Red has some creatures with affinity for artifacts which satisfy your value desire. Chiss-Goria, Forge Tyrant and Imskir Iron-Eater are some good picks off the top of my head
>TQ
>>94492581What was the last precon with reprints that made (You) go 'fuck yeah'?
>TQArena of Glory. I really dig the Hazoret Motifs
>>94494955This deck unironically seems bad, sword. You need more draw/interaction/token makers and less gimmick cards like clock of omens, esperzoa, greyfax, and cyber drive awakener
>>94498737One of the guys I was at the table with argued that standard wasn't a good way to onboard new players because it's "too competitive." Which I find to be an utterly asinine statement.
>>94497841>>94497951>1 player is obviously winning>retard puts that player even further ahead>”no one owes you a win!!!! :^)”
>>94498906edh took over standard back when making a standard deck was minimum $300+ or you could just buy a precon. Competitive doesn't matter as much as price and complexity of decksEDH has so many cards, so many interactions, and so many people doing shit it's very hard for someone to get a grasp of how the game works
>>94498922kingmaking is when a player themselves can't win but can decide who gets to win based on what they do.Kingmaking isn't about being a retard with bad thread assessment as that is a much different and an actual common issue with players
>>94498888Huh. The tripfag trooned out.(You).
>>94498906newbie casual games with 1v1s basically dont exist for standard anymore, not because people can't play casually but because there arent standard legal precons anymore and any custom standard deck is going to be as competitive as possible. it assumes that the newbie player has built their own deck and they're going to get jackhammered by anybody who has been playing for more than a year or two. I can't even fucking fathom how bad the new player onboarding experience must be now
>>94498937>kingmaking is when a player themselves can't win but can decide who gets to win based on what they do.This does not necessitate that the player understands that is what they’re doing when they do it.
>>94498948they expect you to play arena
>pubstomper throwing down the early ancient tomb at the casual table>i immediately crop rotation, strip itbest feeling in the world
>>94498991And then the third guy plays Urza's Saga and you realize you went after the wrong person.
>>94498991ancient tomb is less explosive than sol ring
>>94499032yeah but while every timmy runs sol ring because every deck comes with one and theyre cheap, whales and fiends throw in ancient tombs because they can't stand the thought of not being the fastest at the table. so i need to exist to punish them.
>>94499053it is disappointing when strictly good staples are printed in colourless. There's no reason for whales not to run ancient tomb, urza's saga, and the one ring in all of their decks. Godspeed and keep mental mistepping sol rings
>>94498490I like sorcery/instant heavy decks the commanders I have are: Dihada, Binder of Wills (Typical Dihada deck)Hinata, Dawn-Crowned (Spellslinger)Feather, the Redeemed (Combat Tricks)Marisi, Breaker of the Coil (fight/goad)Gale & Halaster (spellslinger) Obeka, Brute Chronologist (Copy deck)Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis (Akido/redirection)
>>94498888Are you hot? Are you a femboy or are you trans? I know a certain guy with a similar flavor of trip code who needs a gf(male/female+penis/female)
>>94499120He can’t literally fuck himself, anon.Swordsister has levelled up his attention-seeking and finally trooned out
>>94498991Tutoring out strip mine is way more pubstompy than having an ancient tomb lol
>>94499069>>94499053I run it cause i cracked it at draft
>>94498716The Gay Bolas cult?
>>94499341Will Elon Musk make Gay Bolas have a bigger role in the story after buying Hasbro?
>>94499076You don't play a lock of black decks so you could play the classic mono black spell slinger deck Toshiro Umezawa
>>94499491I feel like he's too similar to gale & halaster desu.
>>94496179We should start seeing "opponent sacrifices a creature of your choice" pretty soon.
>>94499585Sacrifice target opponent of your choice
If 20 Ways to Win sells well then be prepared for them to make even worse products.This is a product that should have never been made
>>94499963I'm fine with it. The deck is shit. If they are going to do fomo SLD decks, I'd rather they be these shitty meme decks instead of anything approaching a real deck
>>94499970>fomo is bad so WOTC should sell over priced garbage to people instead
>>94499981Better than the alternative.
>>94499963I would be into it if it was all new art for every card, or at least every non-land card. Make the whole deck tanuki themed. But it’s just a handful of cards with new art and then a random hodge podge of shit for meme wins. At $150? Meh
>>94494955>thematic artifact deck>Thoracle Consultation comboWhy not Time Sieve or some other infinite?
>>94500269See >>94495369>I have my doubts anyone is gonna cheer for when I go for infinite turns with Time Sieve because it's more 'flavorful' than just ending a game with Thoracle.Sword already answered this>>94499137>>94498945Swordbro is not trans.
>>94498604Stealing someone's big creature, buffing it and then swinging to it's owner for lethal is never not funny
>>94498991You're doing noble work.
>>94500280>Swordbro is not trans.Oh right, sorry. “Shieldmaiden” has finally trooned out
>Professor doesnt realize Blasphemous Edict is good is and keeps undervaluing it in his unboxingHow the fuck does anyone come to this guy for advice on how to play the game?
>>94500331I've had more than one person tell me it sucks because "what if they have a board with more than 13 creatures?????"People are genuinely retarded
>>94500448You mean less than? Or are they literally so retarded that they think it only does the thing with exactly 13 creatures?
>>94500331he's talking about money>>94500448in a lot of tables I play at it would be shit and other times it would be fine.Don't forget it's a core set and not a edh product
>>94500455token decks can easily put more than 13 bodies on a board so the edict can do nothing to them
>>94498412Nah, most people at the LGS are fags, fag-adjacent, or lefty cucks. People are still crying about the election. I live in a very blue state though.
>>94494903mm had one of the best fantasy art ever
>>94500458>he's talking about moneyYeah I’m fucking aware. Good cards typically mean more money.He literally goes>Blasphemous Edict? In foil, regular frame…I just don’t think there’s value in this. 67 cents, right?It was $7.46.Literally an instant black staple and this retard can’t even recognize that >>94500462>token decks can easily put more than 13 bodies on a board so the edict can do nothing to themThat’s an actually shit-for-brains take.Non targeting, non destructive removal of 13 creatures for 1 mana is insane value. Sure some boards are going to be bigger than 13 creatures, but losing 13 creatures is always going to be a massive blow unless the retard has basically gone infinite, in which case you're fucked anywayAgain:>non-targeting>non-destructiveFuck your Heroic Intervention
>>94496179None of that is gone?
>>94499981>deck value is 250>SL is 150Can say whatever you want but as far as secondary market is concerned it's good value
>>94500523Yeah, people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that 13 creatures divided by 4 players isn't very much at all.
What are other commanders you can't stop from doing their thing?
>>94500321>>94498945This is the saddest most obvious samefagging ever and it's embarrassing
>>94500582It's not 13 altogether anon
>>94500523This is like the 20th time I've seen you bitch and moan that the prof can't tell card prices. Which is funny because you claim to not like him yet you watch every video he releases. You're so pathetic lmao
>>94500584Norin YurikoDereviFirst SliverAnything with Eminence
>>94500584What do you mean by "can't"?
>>94500589No, I mean that a 4+ player gsme is almost always going to have more than 13 creatures in play, so it's extremely easy to cast.
>>94500625Sorry, my bad.Not sure why i thought you meant it the other way
>>94500587>retard doesnt know what samefagging isTwo posts by the same person not trying to pretend to be two different people isnt samefagging. It's called a conversation but you'd know that if you weren't retarded.
>>94500635I'm aware of the words I used and what they mean. Shieldmaiden and the guy going omg swordbro trooned out!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡ are very clearly the same person. He got mad no one cared about shieldmaiden trip and decided to respond to himself very very very sad behaviour from a grown ass man lmao
>>94500331Sometimes I feel like he’s taking the piss. I’m not sure why a guy who plays so much commander would see black Blasphemous Act and not realize the value for commander players
>>94500331He intentionally gets some things wrong so people comment about it and it will drive up engagement.It's a common thing youtubers do, mispronouncing a word intentionally is the other common thing
>>94500666Put your trip back on, Swordmaiden
>>94499202Explain how. Strip mine's impact scales with how busted the lands you run are. Strip mining someone's only source of a color of mana or having a way to recur it would be pubstomping. I run crop rotation because colossal rattlewurm has desert synergies, I just so happened to notice a lot of losers think they can get away with a proxy Nykthos, Cabal, or Cradle in casual pods because they aren't running a top 10 CEDH commander.
>>94499222Statistically you are a rare encounter. I don't care to account for you as a possibility.
>>94493813still don't know whether to play envoy of ghosts as enchantress, artifact, token spam or lifegainjust dont want to spend 7 mana to slam her down into removalflicker/phase is the orzhov way and i have come close, but never got the cigar for the 99
>>94500805Proof?
>schizo who hates swordchad spends all thread replying to himself>again
>>94500792Did he DO anything with his tomb, or did you discard a card and sacrifice your land purely out of spite?
>>94500821ok sord
>>94500826Why would I wait for someone to get value out of their mana?
>>94500826>Someone plays a powerful land card>DID THEY EVER DO ANYTHING WITH IT? MAYBE THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO TAP IT?Please think before you type and click submit.
>high power go wide deck>its just all Stax pieces
I'm taking ancient tomb out of my deck It's not even good
>>94500865CEDH players wrong i guess
>>94500841>>94500844So you blew your tutor AND your land drop on nothing? You bitch about someone playing ancient tomb at the casual table, but you're running strip mine and blowing up lands for no reason.
>>94500871if cedh decks actually functioned outside of tourney settings then everyone would play them just like how people net deck in every other formatbut they don't do that in edh cuz it doesn't work cedh players are retarded
>>94500844>>94500885>tutor and strip mine good!!!>ancient tomb bad!!!!!>strong cards only okay when I'm playing!!!!Faggot
>>94500885Youre not a fag didn't mean to click ya
>>94500792people like you are so funny because as soon as the eldrazi player starts exiling and annihilating your lands you're gonna fucking lose it like the hypocrite faggot you are
>>94500922No worries. I don't think you're a fag either.
I picked up tabletop simulator to try out long distance magic and it works pretty well honestly.
>>94495520List?
>>94500933>>94500922you fags gonna make out? lol
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9724387/niko_prioWorking on a new niko list need to make some cuts to smooth curve and probably add a wee bit of acceleration in open to any feedback!
>>94501070*makes out with you*fag
>>94501301based
This card seems really underplayed
>>94501528nemesis has a lot of great cards
>tribal themed game>obligatory eldrazi sperg>total whale deck, Cradle, Timetwister, etc.>krossan his echoes of eternity, idiot tries to force of will it>the dinosaur and assassin tribal timmies seem completely oblivious to the guy vamp tutoring with a bajilloion mana>dino player uses tailswipe to kill ezio >ezio uses swords on the fighting dino>ulalek is just sitting there untouched during this
>>94500574Your brain function is certainly gone.
