Happy Halloween Edition>Previous Heresy:>>96869294>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:Do you have any spooky models?
>>96878926First for the first.
>>96878926>Goldshi and TSon on opposite sides of the battlefieldWhat caused the divorce?
>>96878981
>>96878981Obviously she's the distraction while he flanks the enemy, you think she took down that warlord by herself?
>>96877223>>96877300 is correct, I still think they're good, but I think the power rankings are basically Corvidae TSons > power gap > everyone else, with there being a general cluster of solid legions like RG, Sallies and Alpha Legion hanging around A tier depending on the exact builds and matchups. The main difference is that I would be totally unsurprised to find out that Word Bearers or whoever ran over any of those three in a match, there's no uncrossable gulf.>>96878424Headhunters get twice the shots, so they do more damage against any normal infantry target and have excellent Precision pressure straight out of the box. If you just want to slam breaching rounds into infantry from the edge of your range go with Seekers, yeah, but if you want infantry in transports or special weapon squads I prefer the Headhunters. Sniping with meltas is also a cute trick, although damage breakpoints mean it's best at erasing regular Centurions and other lesser HQs, and the nature of react-moving into and around your transport minimises the fragility problems.>>96878434Vets are significantly more expensive with combi-banestrike, although maybe it's worth the extra points per squad for Line 1. Might have to try a list with two banestrike vet squads in rhinos and one headhunter bomb in the back to handle anything big and scary.
Should I just be running the default predator autocannon if I want a gun that's "good enough" for shooting at any kind of target?
>>96879032I'm sure there's a target that a predator autocannon is "good enough" at shooting but I can't think of what it is off the top of my head.Regardless, it's barely good enough for a target let alone any target
How nutty can you get with an Alone and Forgotten character?Take a standard Centurion, give it a halo blade and paragon of battle. So now it's base WS6, A5. Halo Blade is making it S6. What are the optimal bonuses? +1S and +1A seems great, it's rolling up with enough choppy to actually hack squads apart at that point and even take on dreadnoughts. Give it a thunder hammer instead, +1S and +1I now it's trashing terminators, dreadnoughts, and can batter tanks.Take a paragon of battle champion for base WS7 A6, give it +1S and another attack for 7 S6 AP2 attacks. You can slice and dice praetors at that point.I think Heralds are great for AaF because you're getting honor points for killing characters or winning melee so if you're playing with Blade of the Just you're pretty capable of doing that. A power fist jump herald is 110 points, give it an extra attack, an extra wound or extra initiative, give it paragon of battle if you're really fucked up.
>>96879107You can't use AAF to get extra attacks, and +S seems mostly redundant with the Halo Blade or a thunder hammer. I would personally default to +1WS and +1W so your average guy turns into a Praetor with WS6 W4.On Paragons you can maybe vary it up a bit since you don't hugely need WS7, so maybe you get your dreadnought-killing hammer there, but I admit I'm fond of WS7 W4 A5 jump centurion just running around smacking stuff.
>>96879009>you think she took down that warlord by herselfProbably, yeah
>>96879075Then should I take the twin lascannon instead just to be sure? It seems like it’d be the next best “generalist” option
>>96879142Oh jeez I'm an idiot. You know you misread something once and then never double check...
>>96879156Yea, the lascannon is a "fine" generalist option for the pred. I prefer specializing somewhat, and taking the 5" plasma blast. Means it can't scratch AV really but puts a hurt on near every other unit.
>>96879181so you can take specialists in the regular command slot ?>salivate at parangon ws8 champion
>>96879181>Recognising one's own mistake>Admitting to it out of own free willSo incredible rare these days it could be considered a miracle.
>>96879207You can take a delegatus for a command cadre apex detachment for an extra prime command too.
Looking at getting my first TAC list ready how does this sounds >primary: praetor, champion, master of signals, tartaros librarian (biomancy, telekinesis, true believers)>veteran cadre: 10 Praetorian Command (6 thunder hammers, 2 power fists, 2 lightning claws), land raider >tactical support: 3 graviton cannon rapiers, 4 laser destroyer rapiers>exalted conclave: 2 squads of 20 Despoilers (4x power weapons, tainted weapon sarge, true believers), 6 phraetus conclave (5 disintegrators, 1 war axe + shredder), 10 tactical vets (5 shotguns, 3 combi gravs, 2 heavy flamers, power fist sarge)Idea is I have the 2 units of Despoilers and the unit of tactical vets running up through terrain to get to objectives and skirmish for them, phraetus drops in turn 2 to either fight for a central or backfield objective depending on the mission, rapiers deal with vehicles and provide fire support, librarian runs with the Despoilers until the phraetus drop down at which point he hops over with them to brawl and generally throws around biomancy buffs, champion party bus runs around as interference for any elites and vanguards that try to come for my scoring troops
Can I get a tldr on world eaters?
>wanna kitbash the warlord cromwell or wallenstein models for my militia mounted force commander>both are metal and bound to their horses so i cant put them on a sick ass motorbikei might just chop the horses legs off and make styrene cybernetics and give it red eyes and stuff. make it a robo war steed.
>>96879207You can, although my personal favourite is a Master of Signal who can just zap Line onto any of the regular chumps, since when you have a whole platoon of Praetor-equivalent duelists then an extra-skilled swordsman without the VP on death rule is not in huge demand. Most of the 250pt WS7 marine uniques are still going to blend him with all their unique character things at WS8, so you don't gain much.>>96879181It would be a really good pick if you could, admittedly. Regular jump pack/lightning claw guys probably want Strength 5 rather than WS5 now I think about it, to maximise their ability to kill 3+ save squads.
>>96879242Run at people with free chainaxes, see if it blends, if it doesn't blend run at it with power axes instead. Really good army rule, pretty decent Primarch and unique terminators.
>>96879270*rather than WS6, even, they have 5 at base, and that's enough for your average tac squad.
>>96879207And BS fuck off vigilator in a prime slot, yes.
>>96879242Two rites of war, one is pretty good, another is overcomplicated dogshit.
>>96879327The Vigilator essentially caps out at either Prime OR alone-and-forgotten, so you may as well keep him out of the prime slot. Critting on a 3+ is not particularly useful if you only score Precision on 4+ anyway.
>>96879351Fair, I was thinking of having Moritat in the prime slot actually.Need to get those new assault guys and magnetize the fuck out of them to have assault squads/destroyers/centurions.Any thoughts on how many centurions to do with claws, fists and other weapons?
>>96879014>Headhunters get twice the shots, so they do more damage against any normal infantry target10 Seekers do 8~ wounds to power armor, 10 headhunters do 9~ wounds to power armor. Vs AA I believe the seekers do more. >but if you want infantry in transports or special weapon squads I prefer the HeadhuntersSure, seekers dont want to be rushing up the board. But if youre doing that tactical vets are probably better anyways. Headhunters are still expensive-ish for their durability, rushing them into the teeth of the enemy is going to see them mangled.
>>96879364Moritat is specialist sub-type, it can't take paragon of battle
>>96879397FUCK
>>96879397It's funny how many get tripped up by that lmao
>>96879416It's the only consul that's like that so it's not much of a shock. Even a vigilator is command sub-type.
>>96879270I have this notion of an angry Master of Signals with BS6 and a disintegration pistol
>>96879396If you're somewhat smart about your disembarks, blocking LOS with the transport and react-moving back into the nice safe box if they try to close you down, you can minimise the durability disadvantage of 1W elites, but yes, both seekers and headhunters are mostly made of paper.Seekers have superior damage to T4 2+, Headhunters beat them again against anything with T5 or higher, which is most of the range of 2+ targets. I think there are reasons to take all three of the Seeker/Headhunter/Banestrike Vet trifecta, although I admit part of my liking for Headhunters is the malefic tactical nuke combo that lets you zone out heavy melee something fierce.I'd take Seekers for sitting at the back throwing breaching and statuses, vets for moving up to points and deluging objectives in banestrike rounds and Headhunters for headhunter bomb zoning or any kind of melta work, since they can also snipe with them.
>>96879427Why isn't the vigililator a specialist honestly, like I know the moritats are raging retards but it's not like vigilators have much of a role in the command structure either. Honestly, same for masters of signal too
>>96879481Reminds me of my master of signals with nothing but a power dagger shanking enemy consuls in terminator armour to death before they could swing their thunder hammer. Fun times.
>>96879364Damned if I know, nobody's got a reasonable number of games with AAF in. Personally I'm going for a little movie marines allied squad with MOS, hammer paragon cent, two dual claws and two hammers.>>96879481BS6 HQs are just fun, it's always nice to watch an Archmagos or Myrmidon Lord hose something down with critical plasma or archaotech pistols.
>>96879482I think the real advantage of seekers is flexibility. Their range means they can be flexible at what targets they pick. They can opportunistically snipe characters at range while at the same time doing a status if you need one. Its just not a very "hard" unit to have do something, low risk of being caught out being useless with them.
So if I'm running Cataphractii I pretty much NEED to have a transport for them, right?
>>96879532Not if you
>>96879532Cataphractii have always needed a transport, this hasn't changed for three editions
Fulgrim screaming at seeing Ferrus decapitated :(
>opponent didnt read saturnine rules >has been footslogging saturnine terminators with praetor the entire edition because he didnt realize they could deep strike
>>96879566Illiterates should be culled.
>>96879532Either that or to deep strike them. Theyre too slow to realistically make it very far on their own. Cata terminators are the strongest unit in the game (or close to it), but need support making use of that strength. Although the buffs to combi bolters help them do "something" at range.
>>96879563Fulgrim is the littlest bitch
>>96879566Didn't realize or didn't want to pay 60 pts?
>>96879523Yeah, they're good lads. I'm currently putting together a general elite-power-armour-platoon AL list and I'm torn between headhunter bomb + 2x10 Seekers and headhunter bomb + 2x10 banestrike combivets. It would be funny to show up with multiple fury of the legion tac blobs folded up into rhinos, at least.
>>96879673Man, give him a break. Fulgrim and Ferrus were the best friends out of all the primarchs. He had just killed his best friend and brother. If you had family you'd understand.
>>96879716He's the only primarch who got possessed by a demon and even after he regained his body back he just rolled with it like a mind broken slut
>>96879582Well I've got one 5-man squad with bolters and fists, and another with claws, guess a Spartan might be required. Saturnine feel like a bit of a pain to paint so I might work on some of them in the meantime.
>>96879491Masters of Signal are the epitome of a commander. They are weird because they feel like specialists as they can't fight at all, but a commander orders people around and these guys do that.Even Vigilators, who feel more like Assassinorum operators, are in touch with the rest of the force and can act as a sort of "Scout Champion"Moritats are borderline psychos. Most of them are unfit for command and are kind of "let loose" upon the enemy. They do not report back and don't work well with others.But I'm glad they can join other units, Specialist is a very welcome unit type. I wished it could be given Paragon of Battle though. BS7 chain fire would be straight from Red Dead Redemption
>>96879732>he just rolled with it like a mind broken slutEmperor's Children customs urge them to defeat their foes, then master the skills of their defeated opponent until they themselves are better at it than the guy they beat. A ritualistic "I'm better at this than yourself".Fulgrim repossessed his own body, then got better at being a daemon than the daemon that had originally possessed him, as he became a full Daemon Prince while the other guy faded into obscurity.Fulgrim got better at being a demon than the daemon itself.
>>96879491Based on the detachment? Vigilators are essentially scout force commanders, theyre recon specialists who control the vanguard of the army and shit.Moritats are genuinely just psychotics. You just point them at stuff and let them try and shoot it.
Every consul (even the base centurion) should have gotten their own unique auxiliary detachment
>>96879242Great base rule. +1A on charge is huge with the death of dual wielding bonus attacks and generic charge bonus attacks. Chainaxes are a sidegrade now but one you'll want to use anyway.Decent unique terminators rescued from the dregs of 2e's version. They're not an incredible unit but they'll put in work.Rampagers are dead until they re-add jump packs like they did for every other legion unique melee that had them in 2e.Characters are whatever.Unique detachments are dogshit. Hereticus is fine specifically for inductii spam but that requires you to run Hereticus - for your own sake, don't. Just run the inductii and butcher surgeons as loyalists and enjoy getting both legion rules.Caedere weapons are a joke except the barb hook lash, which is instead an interesting gimmick.tldr great core, mediocre to bad uniques
>>96880148Nah that's a bit much. Chaplains should have officer of the line 2 though, and the herald should get the champion's detachment and the champion should get the herald's special rules.
so do the new shattered legion rules still let you mix squads of different legions?
>>96880214That is still the entire point of shattered legions, yes
>>96880178as the loyalist rite* even, you're not required to play loyalist WE to get the worthwhile rules.
>>96880222except you couldn't mix units in 1st ed only the second which required it
>>96880028>ec customsSource?
Remember, the most effective use for hereticus world eaters is to fire phosphex arcuitors and rapiers danger close to your assault troops, purposefully miss, and attach allied characters to purposefully lower yourself to effective leadership 3 (using the lowest leadership in the squad as you're allowed to) and trigger the nails biting.
>>96880275Wrong red colored corrupted marines but the message still fits
So are they just done with big books like Siege of Cthonia?
>>96880345yep.
>>96880345I think Old World is the best indication as to what we can expect in the future for HH.
>>96880366luv this pic
>>96880379What's more satisfying than to have memes made out of one's own models?
>>96879532Yes
>>96879681No like straight up didn't know he could deep strike them. I assumed he was doing it on purpose until last game.
>>96880274Betrayal p107>If a renowned swordsman encountered a weapon of surpassing quality in the hands of an enemy he would take it as a trophy. The swordsman would then practise with the trophy weapon until he wielded it with more skill than its makers, this act representing an almost kabbalistic ritual absorbing and defeating the enemy in spirit.>No prohibition existed against weapons taken from aliens or cultures that were otherwise worthy only for destruction; all that mattered was the quality of the weapon itself.If you want a witchblade or singing spear on your EC, you can. You can put an ork circular saw on them and call it a chainfist. You can give their inductii baseball bats with rusty nails through them, it's all good.They also do something similar with the other Legions whenever they see someone who's better at something than the IIIrd, but that's much less fun.
>>96880366GROND, GROND, GROND
>>96880180Chaplains should unlock a 2 unit 2 Prime Elites detachment that you can only fill with Veteran Tactical or Veteran Assault, and they should only be able to take a new Prime Advantage that turns them into Opsequiariibasically blocking units with an Advanced Reaction to turn on/off another unit's Ld/Cl/Wp/In-based abilities in return for casualties in the target unitlike smart orks
>>96879572alright Herod calm down
>>96880404Real
I finally got my hands on this beauty
>>96880513fucking worth its weight in gold anon, great snag.
>>96880513
holy defacement batmanearly mockup of an appended word bearers chaplain to an outrider eater echelonvaunted spiritual leader <3i really like the horned/jackal cowl of the plate but the 'gyptian striping needs to be paved in and maybe further modified a little
>>96880654Nice thousand sons praetor bro
>>96880521115 dollars
>>96880675i know, it's a frankly incredible model. i had to find a way to use it.there have been some moments of melancholy and respect given before various sections and then his face got ground out tho.
>>96880519Yeah, really super happy to have this tome. Would like to have massacre, maybe once in the future
Is there any other Warhammer model as blatantly horny as the infocyte assassin?Building one to use as an Acuitor Magisterium and goddamn
>>96880713lethal cake
>>96880713Do report back on Arcuitor Gaming, I'm still not sure how to use those but they do look like fun.
>>96880713I feel like the refreshed death cult assassin has her beat honestly
>>96880464People latch onto 40k noise marine slaanesh excess, but what I like of the 30k Emperor's Children is their obsession with being the best. HH1 says it wasn't only with blades.They were expected to excel at every sphere of combat, which is why EC gets both Palatine Blades and Sunkiller HHS.When one of their chapters fought alongside the BA, Raldoron himself awarded them ruby blood drop medals. And when they fought alongside the UM, Guilliman said they used his doctrines better than his own Ultramarines.And their perfectionism showed by despising those they had left behind, yet envying those who were still better than them at something. It's unironically perfect.30k Emperor's Children are vastly different from the 40k Noise Marines that came after them, and I wish people noticed that. It's a gross flanderization of their character.
>>96880812I think all human (mortal) power blades should be rapiers. Biggest reach, good parrying, which is crucial against other powered blades.Kinda disappointing chopping power, but that's what the disruption field is there for
>>96880812On one hand I see what you mean (wtf is that bodysuit)On the other the Infocyte literally has high heels and a cat girl tail.
>>96880812>Corset, elbow gloves, thigh bootsThis is 100% the FETISH GEAR Blanche stuff is made of. She only needs the salvaged dumpster-dive gear from Mad Max, a piss-color sunset background and she'd be full Blanche
Finished painting a predator. The weapons are magnetised, just gotta paint the other options now.
>>96880858>Literal discord kitten E-girlSomebody knew what they were doing.
>Assembling Loyalist Champion>Instructions say to put on backpack first then shoulder platesANGER
>halloween13th GCbros, where we at?
>>96881017>Halloween generally not celebrated here>Family all rather distant probably due to autism being quite common>GF who had been struggling with mental health for a long time went legit schizo and is in psychiatric detention>Dog who has been my closest buddy for almost half my life died last month due to extreme old ageAlone, at home, doing a little painting, and watching vids on interesting topics. At least I finally got some peace and quiet.
>blogposting instead of AWOOOingno one cares and no wonder you're a worthless sack of rocks
>>96881100My condolences, anon, hoping things get better for you.
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so sometimes i've been wanting to look at or read some of the 2.0 books because i missed that edition entirely, but have been having a hell of a time not finding any of them online in digital form. any advice or help anyone could give me would be appreciated.
>>96881207The Siege of Cthoniahttps://files.catbox.moe/oy47n5.pdfThe Battle for Beta Garmonhttps://files.catbox.moe/gxbtoh.pdfThe Martian Civil Warhttps://files.catbox.moe/g24nbs.pdf-Age of Darkness 2.0https://files.catbox.moe/83l85x.pdfLiber Astartes 2.0https://files.catbox.moe/rmkhkp.pdfLiber Hereticus 2.0https://files.catbox.moe/nanep4.pdfLiber Imperium 2.0https://files.catbox.moe/m8vcwm.pdfLiber Mechanicum 2.0https://files.catbox.moe/pgvnn6.pdf-Legacies - Militia Armylistshttps://files.catbox.moe/rynxib.pdfLegacies - Daemons of the Ruinstorm Army Listhttps://files.catbox.moe/9c81ie.pdfLegacies - Legiones Astarteshttps://files.catbox.moe/ndfw4q.pdfLegacies - Mechanicumhttps://files.catbox.moe/6yg76b.pdfLegacies - Solar Auxiliahttps://files.catbox.moe/9ennd2.pdf
BETRAYALhttps://files.catbox.moe/ndkvi4.pdfMASSACREhttps://files.catbox.moe/dq2y60.pdfEXTERMINATIONhttps://files.catbox.moe/7vrcpv.pdfCONQUESThttps://files.catbox.moe/e6594d.pdfTEMPESThttps://files.catbox.moe/13sy18.pdfRETRIBUTIONhttps://files.catbox.moe/xvu3lp.pdfINFERNOhttps://files.catbox.moe/a4oz26.pdfMALEVOLENCEhttps://files.catbox.moe/p07rj7.pdfCRUSADEhttps://files.catbox.moe/0jjys1.pdf
>>96880492Nah, Chappy can only get combat vets
>>96881346>>96881352holy shit, thank you very much, kind anon.
>>96880513Book 6 and bok 3 are my favorites
Is there any reason to have volkites over plasma for a 3.0 moritat? They just seem kinda ass in comparison.
>>96880917Based conversion beamer but that spotlight looks dumb
>>96880713the FAQ nerfed her )^:
>>96881844what happened to her ?
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>>96881100i hope it gets better for you anon.i picked back the brush for the red bastard
Power scythes are stupid.
>>96881890Yes that's correct.
>>96881866The special reactions are now 1/game, as opposed to just "your opponent cant DS"
>>96881888madman
>>96881960no, that one was madness
>>96881996Lunatic
>>96881937eh, you can still take 3 of them if you want to be a cunt to a guy you know needs to DS
>>96881866Vanus assassin custom reactions both went to 1/battle, so she can't just turn off flyers forever.Arcuitor got access to the Magos Weapons list so they can load up with a hammer/paragon blade and archaotech pistol, or even hammer/corposant stave so they can tri-status annoying vehicles.
>be pardo>make a video "hey here's the rules you illiterates get wrong">get multiple of the rules wrong, in some cases literally opposite of how they're explicitly wordedwhat did pardo mean by this?
>>96881890It's so sad that something so edgy is both bad irl and bad in game. Their rules now are so awful it even makes me miss their 2.0 rules, which are also a far cry from their 1.0 ones.
>>96882155I don't give e celebs any time, money or attention, anon. Sorry
>>96882138Do corposants affect automata? I always thought of them like military-grade cattle prods
Around what time do you fellas think world eaters gained stuff like juggernauts?
>>96882155Idk who the fuck you're talking about but I'm sure he has thick skin.
>>96882155examples and timestamps?
>>96882193It's just the Shock rule, so it affects only Vehicles and Walkers. You can give Scoria a seizure by bonking him with it, at least.I'm still not sure if Scoria is any good. He's 410pts and can't really take any of the Primarchs or Valdor, but he's also 9 EW wounds with monstrous saves, decent cybertheurgy and damage output. OK as a wrecking ball, maybe?
>>96879532Warmonger says hi
>>96879532You could Deep Strike, in 3.0 you also don't have to worry about 10-man Lascannon HSS cuntblasting you off the map for free.
>>96879803You can also, you know, use a regular Land Raider for smaller squad sizes.
what would be a good thirty years war/english civil war name for a malcador tank?Lord Protectorate would rip but I really don't wanna name a tank after CromwellGustavus/Adolphus are a mixed bag- cant do adolphus for obvious reasons, and gustavus/gustav seems a little silly.Wallenstein, maybe but it doesn't have a tank ring to it, and my command already has a variant of wallenstein as his name.Others I thought of:SeaxWhitemountEmmanuelWolfenbuttelKilkennyany other suggestions for good place/people names? would probably be written on the casemate or the gun barrel.
>>96882779Why, and what for. Two different questions
>>96882618>>96882696>You could Deep Strike Cataphractii Yeah right. Deep strike turn 2, then be unable to charge or move, then fight in turn 3 if you manage to waddle up to any target that didn't simply run away from them, then the game ends next turn.Effective.
>>96882838>whyi love early modern warfare and want to theme my imperialis around it.>what forThe tank would be the centerpiece of the army, their only heavy armor, and it deserves a suitably sick name, but "tilly" really isn't a good name for a tank.maybe ironically, like naming a plane sally.
>>96882779>KilkennyOnly if you'll string up the corpse of a dead heretic in orange fatigues with a hood pulled over their head next to the name.
>>96882884i could be persuaded to do so yes, would be fitting for the setting
>>96882370not going to watch the video again to find time stamps but saying that you need more than 25% casualties, not 25% or more casualties, to test for panic and saying defender picks order of resolving saves
>>96882964>defender picks savesmeant attacker* fuck i'm illiterate too,pardo said attacker picks what order to resolve saves
>>96882779what are your auxilia/miliatia? bongs?
>>96882979I imagine them as an amalgamated force of mercenary archetypes from the 30 yrs forces- the commander is a horse (motorcylce mounted) wallenstein, their close combat section are hadjuks, the rifles are pike and shotte, the cannons are field guns etc. so not one specific nationality, more just "30 yrs war mercenaries in space during HH"
>>96882779the obvious one is Ironsides after the cavalry but if you're opposed to Cromwell then Firelock or Trainband
What's the most worthwhile use for infantry disintegrator weapons? Maybe mixed melee / shooting praetorian command squad?
>>96882844I think Saturnine (or a small unit of Phraetus, who are more efficient here) are the best deepstriking termie squads, since you can get a free and basically unavoidable S6 AP3 template wipe on a power armour unit the turn you come in and it's not too big a deal if you can't charge.Possibly a case for Crimson Paladins or Lernaeans too, if only because they're Line so if you dump them on a point it's on the opponent to come to them.>>96883176Praetorians blow themselves up less, at least. Phraetus can use them too, since they're EW1 and can tank their own fire, but they don't have Firing Protocols to shoot them alongside their particle shredders.
>>96883176I don't think they're very useful at all. Saturnine termies with 2 twin standing still and holding down a flank or center seem at best neat. The power armor units with them can either carry something better or are subject to just dying from a bad roll.
>>96881100Mum's dead, grandad's dead, dad was a deadbeat not seen in 20 years(by choice), no proper mates or GF(autist), no pets(allergic), and all the games I like have been replaced with new versions I don't, meaning that what used to be a useful framework to allow me to easily socialize with comparative-normies would now require me to be social in order to even find people to play old games with.Cheer up, it can always be worse.
>>96880513Fuckin nice, anon. Makes me wonder though - how much could someone realistically expect to pay for the istvaan campaign box set? I feel like it's got to be north of 2 grand.
>>96883176Killing myself: either I succeed or I roll a 1 and explode
>>96883200>The power armor units with them can either carry something better or are subject to just dying from a bad roll.Yeah, and it's the AP3 version. I guess a case could be made about killing VEQ?
What about SW version of Saturnine armor? Any interesting description? IH have Helwrought and WB have Phraetus anointed conclave. What have SW?
>>96883821Apparently they call them the Draugr>>>96878309
>>96883851Not much. But thanks.
>>96883513900 dollars on ebay
>>96881100Get another dog from a shelter.
>>96883513You'll pay a shitton for it because it's a set. If you hunted out the books individually(you'd want the later red books for the army rules volumes anyway) you're probably looking at around 600 quid if you hunt for bargains, the first three books are the most common. The trouble is if you want to go further than that, some of them are up in the region of 600 for *one book*, unless you want a copy that looks like it's been used as a puppy toy.
*sings* Hate ta say I told ya soooooo...Rumour over on Dakka is that the big release for 30K is...gender balanced Custodes refresh. No Sisters in sight. NuGW are so cucked and filled with fags that they're wasting a release slot that could have filled out a range that desperately needs it - *and is all-female* - with a refresh for a range that doesn't need it exclusively so they can make some of the minis female to Own The Chuds online.Fuck I hate this timeline.
New WH+ HH battle report:https://gofile.io/d/kRDhWi
>>96883982Less reputable than Valrak
>>96883982Can't wait for 30k Custodes and 40k Custodes to have completely different designs and kits.
>>96883982I mean pretty much EVERYONE is expecting this, i'm gonna call bullshit on it for the sole reason that it's just telling people what they already know is going to happen to begin with, so it "sounds" plausible
>>96883988These HH battle reports from GW have been surprisingly entertaining to watch. But that could be due to my expectations being below absolute zero lmao, usually GW only surprises me with a new level of incompetence thought impossible.
I need a unit to hand around with alphariuswhat should I steal? justaerin?
>>96884025Putting Alpharius in a unit with Heavy seems like a waste of his long range set up move.
>>96884033I havent used him in like 2 editions so no idea what he should be running around with
>>96884042A tartaros command squad seems like the most obvious option, now that those can go up to 10 man.
Are there any destroyer equivalents that can take anything other than bolt/volkite? Or are Ashen Circle undisputed OP in that niche? I like the Ashen Circle and WB's demon Saturnine, but don't like the lore or other too chaosy units.
>>96884049any special tartaros units to consider?
>>96883851>>96883863>Outwardly, the Vᵗʰ Legion’s approach towards Vulkan’s Saturnine project seems contradictory. Severely mauled by the Thousand Sons’ sorcery as they had prosecuted the XVᵗʰ Legion’s near-annihilation, the Space Wolves were ill-disposed to adopt technology with an (albeit suppressed) association with psychic practice, though this depleted state also left the Legion grasping for every advantage they could muster as the Horus Heresy unfolded. Eventually, the Legion would field dedicated cadres of Saturnine Terminators and Dreadnoughts, though they were only ever accompanied by the Speakers of the Dead and shadowed by the term ‘Draugr’ – alluding to those Space Wolves whose minds had not endured the psycho-memetic obliteration enacted to veil them from the most unspeakable horrors of the Great Crusade.
>>96884067That's kinda lame, but IF ones sound based. Love me some deepstrike.
>>96883513There's a dude selling it for 350 on an italian second hand website. If someone's got the money at hand go get it
>>96884049Why can tartaros go only up to 10 while catapracti can be 12?
>>96884108No idea about Tartaros, but Cataphractii being 12 work really fucking well with Flesh is Weak blackshields.
>>96884108Cata are the outliers here, the vast majority of marine units go up to 10. We still don't know why cata units can go up to 12 now, could be due to some jew move GW has planned with the upcoming cata model refresh.
>>96884108>>96884119Maybe they'll be sold in boxes of 12 or 6? Like how Saturnine come in boxes of 6 because there's 2 per sprue.
>>96884150Saturnine come in boxes of 4
>>96884150>>96884166Saturnine come in a stupid inconvenience number, the same will happen with the new cataphractii.
>>96884166So the starter set comes with a 1.5 Saturnine kits? That feels inconvenient.
>>96884184No it is actually better, max saturnine squad size is six. If you want a full squad but don't buy the starter you're stuck with 2 left over saturnine.
>>96884184They're 2 per sprue but GW accounting likely would have them retarded expensive at 6 per box so we get 4 per box instead for a unit that's 3-6 models.They probably just hope everyone will buy 2 boxes and have leftovers for a saturnine command squad or centurion
>>96884193>max saturnine squad size is six.And who decided that? The people who also decided to sell them in boxes of 4.
>they didnt address malefic vehiclesfuck! whats the general community consensus on it? not just here
>>96884449I mean it seems pretty self explanatory. Malefic vehicle can't gain status effects, and can't fail a leadership check (and doesn't have wounds anyway), so it just means a malefic vehicle is immune to glances and status effects.Pretty nasty.
>>96884457yeah but it sounds cheesy as fuck, ESPECIALLY when you're doing it via AL detachment, and AL are known for bullshittery and shenanigans
>>96884449Hasn't come up at all in the local scene. Also isn't a serious issue at all when it comes down to it, glancing hits are much less common than penetrating hits. Just doesn't seem worth it to waste a precious prime slot on still having your tank get one-shot by a demolisher cannon.
>>96884465maybe someone just needs to take it to throne of skulls so GW actually realise its a thing
Figured I'd ask here since 40,000Kgs is a shithole: how likely is it that GW down the line will make Saturnine Terminators/Dreadnoughts and their respective armaments available for the later setting?
>>96884475these days? neverhall I half bet the custodes update/release will remove them from 40k (please do this, custodesfags deserve nothing but pain)
>>96884475Not gonna happen. GW has even tightened down on segregating the 40k and HH model lines, recently they moved all the 40k rules for HH units to Legends. Meaning all those models suddenly stopped being tournament legal.HH specific skitarii and custodes models have also been teased, so it's only gonna get worse from here.
>>96884485*remove the custodes FW units from 40k
>>96884485Are there even that many custodes players left? Ever since the whole "There have always been female custodes" shit storm I haven't seen any HH custodes players, and barely hear people talk about them. Dunno how it is in other areas.Maybe their playerbase will recover if the upcoming HH model release and liber are good.
>>96884460It's kinda cheesy but afaik the only two tanks that can get it are the land raider explorator ( which is pretty nasty desu) or Sabres (which will still die to a stiff breeze)I guess the sentries can get it too but either way none of these options are particularly scary damage output wise. The most concerning one would be the land raider but AV14 is so tough you're not killing it before it drops off it's termies with or without malefic.
thoughts on this army comp from WD?...as a sort of "template", swap out the legion specific stuff for your own leagions guys and/or a unit or two
>>96884506The weapons that can kill AV 14 also generally don't do glancing hits it seems.
Alright fellas, I'll be trying out the ashen circle + Moritat combo this weekend. I'll let you know how fucked it ends up being.First time trying new lerneans and maybe the headhunter bomb too, I'll report back.
>>96884518Lernaeans are absolutely disgusting this edition, have fun anon.
>>96884508Honestly, not that great. Too many points locked up in terminators, a spartan, a kratos, and a primarch. It would seriously struggle against any remotely MSU army because of target saturation. Not sure if justaerin and horus can deep strike, but that or foot slogging terminators is terrible Imagine having Horus and 9 JUSTaerin stuck in reserves for half the game
>>96884475not a chance, they are deadset on pushing that retarded stance on cross compatibility, their accountant's dream is our worst nightmarein a few years you will have two fully incompatible custodes lines (the 40k custodes will be marginally larger because they have to be taller than primaris)
>>96884540>(the 40k custodes will be marginally larger because they have to be taller than primaris)Unless they are female. But all of the w40k bigger ,smaller or same size will definitly have bigger bases.
>>96884508Terrible. And the worst part? They actually have an elite prime advantage and don't even use the SoH unique prime advantage that only elites can take.That GW would publish this in WD is a self-admission that they fucked up bad.
How do you deal with an opponent going first turn one, that just infiltrated 8 sentry guns in to mid of the board ?
>>96884560I say "good game, a well-deserved win!" and pack up my models and go home and paint a tech-thrall.
>>96884508So take a primarch in a small game and more HQs then 2, take multiple tacticals. well at least they took a spartan instead of two land raiders. I wonder if they will ever show a game play of armies that people really liked to play in 2.0. Full dreadnoughts, tank, bikes or all terminator armies.
>>96884564I am kind of a getting the same feeling. I am not even mid as far as gaming goes, but in the last game my opponent moved on to objectives on turn1, then blew up three of my rhinos in my movement phase.Pinned my guys. scored turn1 an 2, while I didn't and then I had to spend turn 3&4 clearing the way to get to the objectives through the sentry guns. took 4 turns of shoting and when I thought I would now get to do melee he just reactioned outside of charge range. Maybe I will just try to deep strike my whole army with deep strike. Missed the initial 3.0 release and I am way behind on list building and tactics, comparing to the people that play at the store.
>>96884508Don't bring a primarch unless agreed upon with the opponent.
>>96884518Playing at 2k vs my DG buddy as always, here's the list:2k: testing Crusade det:Delegatus with power swordLibrarian in Termie armor with power axe, biomancy, telepathyPlasma Moritat, RoT2*10 tacs 2* rhinos LB: 1*5 lerneans, c-beam+powerfist, 3* thunder hammers, chain fist on sgtRoT: 1*10 Ashen circleApex: vanguard: 1*10 headhunters, malefic Headhunter Leviathal:1*5 recon snipersLB: land raider carrierMech allied Det:1* archimandrite magos with cyber familiar, heterodoxist, aetheric amplification, and combat vet.Plan is to put magos in footslogging tac squad following the headhunters in a rhino to do the bs6 Strat. The lerneans + Libby move up to the center with the land raider, fear(1) debuff helping out the ashen circle + Moritat flying around doing stupid amounts of damage and panicking people so the lerneans can rape them even harder.Finally other tac squad + delegatus + rhino for objectives and recons to take out sgts.
>>96884560You mean you didn't bring some units with anti-grav that can just jump over them? Skill issue desu
>>96884003I can believe it even if 40k custards are already anemic as fuck without anything FW.
>>96883988> The hostIs that what British blacks look and sound like? Utterly uncanny
>>96884567>3k>small game
>>96884678That's not a big game for HH you poorfag
>>96884708it's your average game
>inductii cant take prime advantages>cant upgrade a salamanders inductii master with master sergeant for like 5 WS5 attacks with twin lightning claws
>>96884508Double melta dred is a literal waste of pointsVanilla libby isn't good
The warhammer battle reports usually have some neat models
>>96884755>kratos with twin-lascannon sponsonsHow?
>>96884816looks awesome
>>96884823Preview of the fellblade journal tactica :^)
what should I equip a command squad with (either terminator or praetorian) if they're a retinue for a primarch?never done it before
Thank god the Imperial Fists were quicker to adapt to the relaunch of Saturnine patterns than any other legion, the traitors might almost have come across like competent there for a moment.
>>96884885Depends on the Primarch, and what his capabilities are. Generally lots of thunder hammers and a couple of cheaper boys to clear through chaff, but you can want some chainfists if the Primarch is stuck at S6 or similar.
>>96884894GLORIOUS!
>>96885042alpharius
>>96885139His fancy redeployment trick means that it might be nice to have two vaguely viable units to put him in, in case you need to redeploy out of the way of a giant enemy deathstar.Alpha Legion are effectively unsnipeable with their unique reaction, so you don't need to care much about unit majority toughness, and he can put on a good turn of speed, but he's not the best duelist against his brothers. Five geared-up praetorians with hammers and maybe 1-2 chainfists probably allow him to smash through any unit other than an opposing primarch deathstar and preserve his mobility due to lacking Heavy, which is really what you want. You can have another unit of Vet Breachers, Terminators or similar melee in a different assault transport if you want to be able to use Everywhere and Nowhere fluidly.
>>96885217what about stealing some DA tartaros companions?only a unit of 5 and no banner, but they have EW1 and can take hammers
>>96885289A good idea, there are lots of good steals here. Regular Deathwing with 5++ on everyone are cheaper than their tartaros variant, but you do need to settle for fists. Lernaeans have Line but sadly you can't fit five of them and Alphy in a Land Raider, so having a Line Primarch unit is quite hard. I have considered 4 Morlocks in a raider, which is a real unit if Alphy doesn't use his rule to join them and an economical Primarch deployment if he does.
>>96885337Morlocks are surprisingly good at escorting Primarchs, since they get a nuncio-vox and legion standard even if they're stuck with fists, so they're basically immune to the pin-and-ignore primarchstar handling strategy. They also have fun gravguns and a nicely efficient small unit size.
Have there been any rumors regarding WHEN the new Cataphractii will be coming out?
>>96885126Rann the GOAT
>>96885353only issue is that they're heavy while alphy is M8"+light, they're gonna really slow him down
>>96885370Nu MkIV looks good, Nu Cata looks awful.
Alexis Polux exists.
>>96884894It makes perfect sense. The IF were in the Sol System for years before even the HH, and had full access to the original Saturnine tech while Mars was cut off because of the civil war.Salamanders until Isstvan 5, and IF later should be the prime examples of Saturnine suits use in the field. Other Legions should only have used those in very few numbers or never at all.
>>96885427>Posting 40k artwork in a HH thread
Is there a semi meaningful explanation why Atramentar was locked to Tartaros in 1.0 and 2.0?
>>96885447boo hoo
>>96885418>bought one>it's painted to WE colorsI'm honestly stumped what to do, I'm afraid to strip resin.
>>96885459>Erebuswhy is this dude so rarely fielded in games or part of WB lists?Given how based he is, you'd think that more WB players would like to play with him
Sicaran Arcus coming out in plastic soon you reckon? "Sold out online"
>>96885393Yeah, they're just a good candidate for a second squad to swap him into if necessary. Shame he's not quite fast enough to run with any kind of jump pack squad, or you could raid the Blood Angels.
>>96885503prob because even us word bearers hate him he is his own army
>>96885370Why do the regular marines look so off, when compared to previous illustrations?
>Saturnine issue combined with proscribed Vaults of Mimir tech without the scrutiny of Mars or other legionsGosh that sounds super interesting and it would have been swell IF IT HAD RULES or something.
>>96885586Looks like they've changed the proportions slightly, so they probably look off to you because you're used to the old style.
>>96885418You mean Fatty?
>>96885503His model sucks
>>96885728How? It's not bad, and certainly not worse than Sigismund or Ahriman
>>96884816>How?Converting?
anybody want to share dropsite massacre epub?
>>96883982Good. Big Horny has won. It seems everything is softcore nowadays
>>96885803Not to a purveyor of AI slop.
>>96884086I'm tired of the IF being the teleport legion. All 40k battle barges have teleporters, which are relics from 10,000 years ago...meaning all 30k battle barges have teleporters.They aren't relics from a bygone era yet, they are actually fairly understood at this time.Not to mention every legion is depicted teleporting in the books. Even Mortarion and Kahn are shown being teleported multiple times
>>96884520>Lernaeans are absolutely disgusting this editionLerneans were elevated a lot...up to the bare minimum that Legion Elite Termies ought to be. Like, outside the WS5 every such unit has, what's their unique trait?A conversion beam. And S+1 in melee (axes still need a 5+ anyways because Breaching, and Hammers don't care). But I guess it works against Dreads and Saturnines?Line is their big thing anyways. Too bad the IWND lernean hydra regeneration theme never worked
>>96885451No lol. I think they showed up as Tartaros in one book but even in the og omnibus they were indomidus
>>96884564>go home and paint a tech-thrallIt's so sad that a unit with such a cool concept is so bad in game
I just want plastic cataphractii with this scale
>>96885415Nah nu cata looks fine. It just looks odd because no one ever with any decency would build one without atleast one fist or claw
>>96884746>IW prime is: "You're literally worthless. Expendable (1)">IW Inductii are naturally Expendable (1)I wish our stuff let us kill better instead of being okay with dying.John French and his consequences have been a disaster for IW fluff
>>96885880The beamer is exceptionally potent, at least. Half an armiger or a predator gun sellotaped to your terminator squad is pretty good, especially if they're holding a point with Line and firing at enemies halfway across the board.Lerns aren't the best at Terminator vs Terminator headbutting, but if you keep them cheap with the beamer, axes and maybe 1-2 hammers they're pretty good at their actual clear and hold mission without character support, so they're more attractive outside of deathstars.
>>96885976Do 5 termies in a Raider count as a death star?
>>96883038Ironsides is a little better than outright Cromwell's title, and a little ironic considering the third line rule, I like it.Firelock and Trainband are also good. Thank you anon!
>>96886019No, and I'd rather have five Lerns in a raider than five Cenobium in a raider, since they don't need followup to hold the point they take. EW terminators have their own advantages, but if I'm going to take WS5 non-EW termies I'm going for the ones with Line.Crimson Paladins are also good at this job, albeit mostly because they can DS onto whatever point they like rather than because they're particularly fighty for terminators.
>>96886019Dwarf star
Do you guys have any advice for creating interesting table layouts? I've been thinking of trying to adapt something like Company of Heroes maps to get a somewhat balanced layout but I was wondering if there's other ways.Finally got a 3d printer so wanted to print some kind of train yard with lots of gantries and bridges overlooking a huge train/railway gun or something like that.
>>96886111My rule is 1 medium (ruins), 2 light (craters, pipes, flat ruins), and 1 large and 1 small terrain feature (crates, generators, etc) per table quadrant, and than one big medium (ruins) in the center
>>96884675>British blacksNo such thing.
>>96886037>little ironic considering the third line ruleHey, he said Ironsides, not Ceramsides>>96886094>>96886083That's the thing. It may be my AL brain speaking but I don't believe in gathering half my army's points inside a single vehicle for the enemy to immobilize. When I think termies I never think of 10 termies in a Spartan...but I always do think of 5 in a Land Raider. Multiple such dwarf stars.They are self-sufficient so they need no support, and you can afford multiples
>>96886322>I don't believe in gathering half my army's points inside a single vehicle for the enemy to immobilizeExcellent thinking anon. Heads of the Hydra remember, never give the enemy only a single target they need to neutralise.
what are you working on this weekend anons ?
>>96886387Getting my Bambu to not suck ass so I can print infinite rhinos
>>96886387Going to have to airbrush a whole lot of power armor. Have a game coming up on thursday and while there is no way I can have my army fully painted by then id rather have it be "a color" as opposed to grey (or silver)
>>96886387Hopefully finally about to make a proper start on these. Been away for my partner's birthday and I've not been able to paint in nearly 2 weeks.
>>96886333I know Alpharius is technically wearing artificer, but those Cataphractii shoulders really make him fit in alongside other termies.I believe Primarchs fit in any unit by virtue of being themselves, but I wonder where Alpharius fits *better*. I wonder if there is such a thing as a proper retinue for Alpharius, though.
>>96886387Nice progress anon
>>96886387I gotta get the guns attached to my saturnine dread conversion so I can start painting it
>>96886460thanksthe model is a bit rough but considering based chinaman charge 5 time less than Grifter Workshop i'm not complaining. especially considering the age of the model even FW's masters must be shit by now
>>96885803https://gofile.io/d/0EVTpc
>>96886601wow thank you.
>>96886387Just a few more arms and heads left and I'll be done with the last kit I need to build for my mechanicum
>>96886601You are too kind
>>96886601Is the audio book out?
>>96886894
>>96886387I'm going to finish another brick of 30 militia, thank God. That will put me at just 40 to go until I'm sitting at 200 infantry models, but i think I'm going to do some vehicles next for a break.
I'm getting my hands on some 2nd hand MKVI tacticals but have no idea what legion i should play.Do world eaters have any use for tac marines?
>>96887008For WE it is kind of an unwritten law that you gotta play despoiler squads. Are the models already assembled?
>>96887018Nah they're a tac squad from the age of darkness box , still on sprue.I was thinking of using them to test some color schemes but can't decide, feels like a waste of models
>>96887061Oh, in that case you can just get the melee weapons upgrade box, or get recasts or 3D printed bits, and build them as WE despoilers. Nothing wrong with testing colour schemes on some of them, you can just strip the ones you didn't like then paint everything in the colour scheme you've settled on.
>>96887061In HH2, WE tacts with chain bayonets were decent and fluffy.in HH3, you can do the same but are a bit suboptiomal.You can also buy the melee weapons upgrade kit to turn them into despoilers or melee vets
>>96886215Then what do you call the host guy
>>96885896Now THATS a terminator.Not the current plastic manlets.> Ib4 le-le lore says le manlets are ACKUALLY le correct!!!! No I'm not a poor fag!!!
>>96887120>No I'm not a poor fag!!!What has that to do with it? This smells like projection.
>>96887112A STINKING NIGGER
>>96887147> T. Too poor to replace the plastic Cataphractii he got 8 years ago
>>96883513I have that box set, and it cost me $300 back in the day.
>>96884755>>96884816yeah wtf, any watchers can confirm?
>>96887215Yeah, it has to be projection
>>96884475Dreadnoughts never. 40K saturnine are literally centurions. Saturnine had production issues in 30k there’s no way there’s that many suits hanging around after the scouring
>>96884518Just a warning anon, they’re very glass cannon units. They die quick, but annihilate anything below a terminator. Very fun
>>96887120>>96887215Still acting like a baby, IGfag?
>>96886426I think Alphy goes best with Praetorians or other power armour infantry, but really he just wants as many vaguely plausible spots as possible.Everywhere and Nowhere is admittedly somewhat boring this edition, I kind of miss the old concealed deployment trick. If he wasn't a single model kit I'd say it would be cool if Alpharius came as two independent characters who share a wound count and only one can shoot/fight each round, although that's very much a gimmick I just think would be cool rather than a serious game design opinion and he'd definitely have to be more expensive to justify it.
>>96884638Godspeed anon. It's hard to cast the BS6 headhunter buff when the Magos isnt in the unit to give them the Mech faction + tank feedback, so I wish you luck there.I'm having some fun assembling the Karacnos and 2x Krios my headhunter magos can buff in his off-turns, they're really quite nice kits.
Word bearers lore question: How likely would it have been for the Word Bearers to reinstate the chapter of the Twisting Rune post-Calth? I have a bunch of transfers for it left from old kits that I'd like to use for my mid-heresy army, and I thought it would be thematic for Kor Phaeron and Lorgar to re-found the chapter for the Shadow Crusade after the chapter was confirmed destroyed on Calth.
>>96886770And we're done
>>96887008Tacs are a lot better than despoilers mechanically. Really, anything is better than despoilers, especially with our inductii. Up to you whether you prefer them for fluff reasons. I just use assaults for my melee troops.
>>96887763>How likelyImpossible to say. Do it anyway.
>>96887825
>>96883988that poor Kratos that got nuked at the beginning of the game
>>96886387Getting the guns of my super saturnine ready, should have the shoulder mounts done tomorrow
so how did the inductii process differ from the normal marine-making process?Is it a good or bad thing that the inductii process is now functionally the standard practice post-heresy?
>>96888258The answer varies between legions, time periods, and conflicts.
>>96888258>the inductii process is now functionally the standard practice post-heresy?No it's not. It takes almost a decade for an aspirant to become a marine. Inductiis could be churned out in a year with an accelerated growth and implantation schedule that skipped some of the steps and resulted in a load of failures and might have even accelerated the Heresy. Post-Heresy it is an even more dangerous process done only in the most dire circumstances.
there should be a story of an inductii who's been hypno-indoctrinated to believe he is this veteran legionary who died, however he KNOWS he's not this guy, doesn't know who he personally is, and constantly has issues trying to prove himself as he's always looked down upon due to being an inductii
>>96888488>hypno-indoctrinated to believe he is this veteran legionary
Once again the wily Alpha Legion and their Word Bearer buddies fought against the perfidious Thousand Sons, although it was a rare W for me this time>Take and Hold mission, Dawn of War deploymentNotable moments>we both could deploy in such a way as to contest/hold objectives t1>Jorlund hunters unload, kill a handfuls of tacs, but they pass the panic check, which means they got firestormed to death>Phraetus deepstriking, shrugging off a faturnine dred unloading disintegrators, killing a tac squad and a rhino with particle shredders>the 4-man Phraetus squad then managed to survive a Fellblade pouring all the guns into them, with Warpfire Mantles killing a TS Librarian, and the sole survivor (who passed the morale check) failed the pinning check, which killed him, made him explode, and pinged the Fellblade for 1, which was enough to matter in the long run as I ended up killing my t3>final score was 18 - 8, a combination of really good deployment and attacks won me the day
The Just Us League.
>>96888604And of course I forgot the end-of-game picAlso I forgot the Giant Killer + Reaper of Lives so final was really 23-8>inb4 le unpainted modelsPost games + armyNotes>shroud-granting librarians on TS inductii are fucking annoying>it may be because of terrain but the Fellblade was generally not too scary>Castellax-Archea remain a problem I've yet to solve>Reaper of Lives is underperforming in my 3-tank Blackshields detachment, it's only proc'd once for 1 (one) vp when I didn't need it>my full las + multi-melta pred consistently underperforms, considering dropping it
>>96888641So how'd your last game go?
>>96883988This shit is so uncanny and cringe>Let's sit down facing each other so close our knees touch then maintain eye contact the entire time while we discuss every detail of the game we just played while the video cuts to the actual game.It's borderline unsettling how unnatural this format is. Also that BA player has one braincell for going second and deploying his kratos facing a typhoon and vindi.
>>96885910At least for those two renders, the AL one's coloration could've used a bit of silver trim in more areas since it looks a bit flat. The WB equivalent looks far less bland.
Working on ye olde Moritat+ ashen circle bomb in preparation for my game tomorrow.As per my previous orange runes, they glow under a blue blight
>>96886387Dark mech for the dark gods, also got a decent game in this week with my Iron Hands that was fun.
Guard up on biomancy librarian is very funny, putting it all on black with a slam. Doubly so if you are in tsons and can afford to give it paragon of battle instead of combat veterans.
Broadly speaking tartaros > firedrake > cataphractii > saturnine as far as command squads go for salamanders, yeah?
>>96887089>In HH2, WE tacts with chain bayonets were decent and fluffy.>in HH3, you can do the same but are a bit suboptiomal.Technically they are better now, aren't they? Given how Rapid Fire is always on but shooting no longer blocks charging. So now WE Tacticals can fire two shots, then charge for 2A.Which is better than Despoilers firing their pistol and having 3A, as melee hits on 4+ as opposed to shooting's 3+.And that's on basically a single turn, two at most. Other times Despoilers won't be in melee, but Tacticals will always be at range.And Tacticals have better Line.And Tacticals have the option of Fury of the Legion, while Despoilers' Spite of the Legion is fucking dead.It might be the time for WE Frontline Tacticals, unironically try and change my mind.
>>96887763Blood Angels revived their original Legion master a minimum of four times after his confirmed death.When one is possessed, the very word informs you: you life is no longer your own. It's not yours to live it, and not yours to die it.If the Powers That Be deem it right, you will return at the predestined hour. Samus will have been born from the murder of the one who kills it.DEATH IS BUT A DOOR, TIME IS BUT A WINDOW. I'LL BE BACK
>>96889168Paying +2 points per model for AP5 and Shred 6+ seems like a waste compared to handing out some power weapons. Unless you're bayoneting hordes of militia. Maybe they'll do something with the bayonet keyword in one of the DLC journals.
>>96883982The femstodes should all have -1 to their statline
>>96889168Make Chainbaynets great again
>>96889226Hold on, I never said to buy the bayonets. I argued about Tacticals by themselves >>96889360Unironically. I would make bayonets to let the gun they're mounted on be able to Volley fire (which would also be huge for SoH).Unsure what to bring chain bayonets that costs +1 pt over a regular bayonet. Maybe S+1 idk
>>96883982You have a link?
Is there a non retarded way to make the front of a land raider magnetized? Don't want to commit to explorator or carrier.
>>96881346Fuckin legend
Finally had a game the other day, the first in a few years. Luckily I still have Battlescribe on my phone, as it seems to have vanished from the internet for PC.What programs do you all use for making a list?
>>96889767New recruit
>>96889803Thanks
So I'm finally getting down to reading these books and I have to ask, do I have this correctly, that Horus' big problem is that he got mad that he wasn't as privileged as he felt he should have been?
>>96889822No, it's all because of Erebus.
>>96889828And a phenomenal amount of daddy issues.
>>96889873Those were the unprotected fire wood inside of all the traitor Primarchs. Erebus is the fucking maniac who threw gas on one which lit the rest on fire
Why are the Age Of Darkness praetors so fucking big?Way bigger than the cataphractii terminators in the exact same box
>>96889891They ate their veggies
>>96889891Leaders need to be big. No one wants to follow a manlet
>>96889891Gene-seed contains Ork DNA
>>96889891Those Cataphractii terminators are old plastic. Just wait and see how big the nu ones will be. Plus they will have less options in the box compared to old ones. That's why I plan to buy couple more old boxes. Same for Tartaros and MK4 marines while they are still there. It just hurts my heart that I didn't bought more resin MK5 and resin heavy weapons which is 10 times better than the nu ones with ultra cool backpacks. Luckily the chynaman heavy weapons boxes are really good.
>>96889828The personality flaw Erebus exploited was that Horus was mad he wasn't as informed of his father's plans as he felt he should have been, that the Astartes weren't going to have the role in society after the crusade that he felt they should, despite everything he'd been given he lost his shit because he was being treated as a servant like everyone else, not an equal, not even as high a servant as Malcador. Without that resentment, Erebus would have failed.
>>96889960yeah, Horus was NOT fooled by Erebus like many believe. That's a misreading of what happens in False Gods.He was always manipulative and ambitious, and couldn't stand realizing he wasn't privy to the Emperor's more secret plans or even part of them. Hence the heel turn.His mistake was thinking he could use and control Chaos to overthrow the Emperor.
>>96883982>Rumour over on DakkaWhere? I'm looking but can't see anything mentioned on their HH news and rumour thread.
Breachers previewed later today for sure
I don't get why in the Scouring book Sisters of silence told about black ships on Luna only to Guilliman? If they had told the same thing to Dorn there would be no misunderstending between brothers.
