I can't be the only one who wants gw to bring back inquisitor and keep the 54mm scale
>>96937587You a secondary? You a nogames?Because no sane gaming primary wants to make (and then store) a dense urban board's worth of 54mm terrain, on top of whatever they already have. I feel like even the printlets would groan at the prospect of having to melt that much FDM. Let alone paint it all afterwards.So, do you game?
40k will scale creep to 54mm in a couple of decades.
>>96937587I desperately hope GW stay the fuck away from Inquisitor, because I play it and I like it and I don't want it to be re-released as modern slop with shit simplified rules for tournament fuckwits.I do not believe the design studio would be able to get anything past the accountants without it being ostensibly balanced and competitive, which is the complete antithesis of Inquisitor's design philosophy.Pic related, an intro game where two Covenant clone bounty hunters prepare to raid a salvage operation to recover sensitive documents found in the wreckage of an old crashed nobles' limousine. Just off-camera, a Mechanicus prohibition team enter to confiscate a suspected abominable intelligence from the dashboard of that same limo, and the OrgCrim goons disembark from the Arvus to collect their tithes from the fat overseer of the salvage crew.In the name of slightly gonzo fun, this scenario is mostly a random-roll treasure hunt, where equipment or artifacts or loadsa fackin munny can be recovered by spending a bit of time looting the crates or piles or worker corpses, aside from the core objective of nicking the limo.A memorable moment was one of the bounty hunters experiencing a religious conversion - he found the goblet of St Prideaux, later threw it at a crim that was sighting at him with a rifle, and as the sniper reached to catch it she stumbled and fell from her sniper's perch. Clearly the Emperor was smiling on the Covenants that day.
>>96937603use your imagination for good instead of self-aggrandizement you annoying friendless faggot>>96937587Not the only one but it's niche, that said scale creep has really kicked in by now and human scale terrain is close to compatible between the scales if you're smart about it
>>96937587Actually, you probably are.Once a game like this gets handed over to the community, the worst possible outcome is that GW takes it back over. Mordheim, Epic and =]I[= are all just fine without the faggot parade of Nottingham filling them full of pozz.
>>96938925>>96937603Given the claustrophobic backrooms that a lot of the intrigue and sneaking should happen in, it's really not that hard to make some 54mm scatter and use dense 28mm-scale warham terrain as-is - with some barrels and crates and control panels at 54mm scale, and obviously the characters, your eye clicks into seeing it all in 54mm scale quickly enough.>>96938015There are already a decent number of Big Guys that have bits that work at 54mm - at least a couple of the Necron special boys have the torso breadth and limb length to work well, though they need a bit of rearranging and filling out.Unfortunately most '28mm' stuff is still heroic-scaled to fuck and back, so simply playing them at Good Scale makes them look like dumpy little cartoon characters (no abdomen, stubby legs) next to models sculpted with human anatomy. In most cases it isn't too hard to put spacers between knees and grieves, and just below and above the hip.>>96938948I can ignore lore "full of pozz".It's a whole new imported playerbase trying to soullessly play my RPG like Kill Team that fucks everything up, that's the problem with every re-release.
>>96937587>miniature game that verges on an RPG in terms of customization, centered around highly personalized retinues of characters>make it out-of-scale with 95% of bitsSounds retarded in the extreme.
>>96939040>trying to soullessly play my RPG like Kill TeamKill Team itself was meant for this kind of play, don't remind me of what modern geedubs has done to it with their autistic fixation on appeasing tourneyfags and making every team basically a fixed list with near-zero customization. My heart can't take it.
BasedI bought what I hope is a 54mm ish Plague Marine the other day
>>96940699>Kill Team itself was meant for this kind of play,Does my head in that they didn't even seem to have any interest in keeping a "design your dudes" fork of the rules available, only the pre-made loadouts version for tourneyfags.You could have monetised Inq28's blow up, you stupid cunts.>>96940722I think that lad might be a little short for a plaguetrooper, unless your hands are fuckhueg.Trivially fixable with a fret saw and some spacers though, spacers at the hips and knees and wrists..
>>96938925>use your imagination for good instead of self-aggrandizement you annoying friendless faggotThat's a no then.If you're so hot for 54mm then just go print whatever minis you want scaled up. Start a new thread when you've got your terrain painted.
>>96938948>Mordheim, Epic and =]I[= are all just fine without the faggot parade of Nottingham filling them full of pozz.Nah.need more women and blacks. to keep you away, obviously.
>>96941360>That's a no then.If me telling you you're being a fuckwit is somehow evidence for me being nogaems, then in your mind you must be such a unique and special little faggot on this Traditional Games board for the pickup games of 40k you play with the other hopeless losers at your local store>>96938925>that said scale creep has really kicked in by now and human scale terrain is close to compatible between the scales if you're smart about itI'll expand upon this in excruciating detail because you're not interested in discussing wargames or using your imagination to do so, beyond "how can I use this thread to pin a medal on myself"There's so much in not just the natural environment but also the built environment that can be scale flexible: one of the tables in the rulebook is a sci-fi x western mining town and a bunch of berms, outcrops, equipment, sci-fi shipping crates could be flexible. Trees or sci-fi things that fulfil the same function, alien or even human ruins, corridors or tunnels etcTerrain isn't really a problem at all if you're interested in finding a solution instead of making the problem seem bigger as an excuse to suck yourself off
>>96937603this post reeks of neck beard
>>96940722he cute
>>96940665‘Inquisimunda’ is the same thing but in a non-retarded scale. Mind you, buying models from GW even at normal 32mm heroic scale to put together a small retinue would be as expensive as buying in to some other systems like Trench Crusade so IDK if it’d be worth it.
>>96941414I was here before you leftist shitlibs invaded the hobby and demanded it be changed to suit your politics, and I’ll be here long after you’re found hanging in your mom’s basement dressed in women’s clothes and a bra stuffed with Kleenex.
For a brief moment there I thought =]I[= was going to be a big thing and not the retard’s wet fart it turned out to be.
>>96944158>Terrain isn't really a problem at allThis is very true, we play with a mix of stacked 'natural' formations (like in the orange pic at the top) and big buildings made of stacked plastic L-shaped ruins and similar.This pic is actually a bad example because it is zoomed, and we had five people around each of the tables in a row, so I skipped the upper stories since only the last person had a sniper in the team and he had a tower in his corner anyway.Here we have a pair of Arbites doing a little off the books first-responding to a Spook cartel high-volume drug deal, simultaneous to a Hereticus strike team and some rival criminal scum.
>>96944709Inquisimunda isn't really the same thing, it's just an umbrella name for 'hacks' of Necromunda that are just >Necromunda but unlimited credits no restrictionsSome of them do have interesting campaign rules, but that again feels like tweaks to Necromunda to make it a bit less restrictive, rather than capturing the feel of what operating an Inqusitorial taskforce would be like, in my opinion.I was talking to Mike Gaslands a while ago, he made a Malifaux 2E re-skin for Inquisifaux gaming which is pretty cool.
>>96937603>playing in storesSecondary spotted.
>>96944752Projection: the Post
>>96946539>I was talking to Mike Gaslands a while ago, he made a Malifaux 2E re-skin for Inquisifaux gaming which is pretty cool.Interesting. I dealt with him when letting him know some cunt called ‘creepy hero’ was making absolutely shit gaslands accessories and falsely claiming to be a ‘friend of Gaslands’, nice guy. And I played a lot of Maifaux 2e. Weird how the DNA gets all wired together.
>>96946593He didn't say anything about playing in store, he just said that you need to store (as in, find a place to keep) the oversize 54mm terrain. Are you ESL or retarded?
>>96944158>Terrain isn't really a problem at all if you're interested in finding a solution instead of making the problem seem bigger as an excuse to suck yourself offSo show us your terrain with some 54mm minis. Because you do actually play games, right?
>>96946940You could always post your 40k terrain and explain how all the piles of rocks are super special 28mm scale rocks that can't be used in any other scaleYou're so very special and unique for playing games after all, you refuse to talk about anything else
>>96944709I mean I imagine for most people they'd be kitbashing their retinue from their existing collection rather than going out and buying shit, seems more in the spirit of the game
>>96946729Yeah, Mike's sound. It was interesting to talk to him after the games and hear his views on the system.>>96947062My group is a blend of 3D print lads, a couple of all-metal grogs, alternative manufacturers, and a few toybashers that mix in trve GW metals and 1/32 historicals and prints and 28mm bits.Helpfully, GW's dumb scaling means that the larger 28mm rifles make convincing 54mm carbines, and shit like ork and marine pistols are already the right size for standard humans to use.>>96946940nta but there are two pictures of my tables in this thread.To repeat myself from earlier:>it's really not that hard to make some 54mm scatter and use dense 28mm-scale warham terrain as-is[...] your eye clicks into seeing it all in 54mm scale quickly enough.Here's a Zone Mortalis table with some scaled-up control panels and scatter, worked fine for a maintenance tunnels scenario.If you can't play 54mm games using some tarted up 28mm terrain, that's a shame for you, but it doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.
>>96940699>near-zero customization. My heart can't take it.You are just bitter.And a retard if you can not separate rules and models from each other. You can take any KT list, and customize the team to your hearts desire.
>>96947049>You're so very special and unique for playing games after allYou would think that, being no-games.
>>96948556>nta but there are two pictures of my tables in this thread.Sure, it's not that difficult but I want to see OP's terrain.After all, it's never been easier to play inquisitor in 54mm thanks to 3D printing for minis so why isn't he doing it? Because he doesn't play anything.
>>96950256and yet mr 1337 tabletop gamer man has no justification for your totally scale specific 28mm rocks>>96950272>OPretard this is my second time telling you that from I'm not the fucking OP: I also replied to the OP in the same post as I first replied to youI want you to post pics of your games because there's no way somebody as fucking stupid as you has the capacity to understand a rulebookno wonder your insecurity expresses itself as delusion, if the fog were to lift you'd probably immediately kill yourselfyou're so fucking stupid that here you are admitting I'm correct>Sure, it's not that difficultyou're just mad at this point I challenged your pindick posting
>>96940699So true king
Picked up this ugly cunt recently, he's going to be the usurped leader of a little pilgrim train/riot made up of Tehnolog conversions.It can be pretty tricky to stitch together a coherent aesthetic from disparate models from different manufacturers - as much as GW has a weird heroic style, they are at least somewhat coherent across the line, so they all stand together and look like they're from the same universe.I hate gangs that mix manufacturers and you can tell. This fat git and the Tehnologs are roughly equivalently cartoony, which is nice.>>96940699The WDs from Schaeffer's Last Chancers' release had a few very fun batreps. I might dig them out and cry about what might have been later.>>96950581Time to disengage from the no-value poster, my brother. We can't stop him samefagging the argument, but we can stop helping.
>>96944158Why do any of this instead of just using 32mm miniatures?>>96946528I don't want to be mean but this does not look good. The brain does not "click it into scale." Your Arbitesman is as tall as each storey of your Cities of Death terrain. It looks absurd. :(
>>96938743Holy sheepshit that's a big landing craft. That would legit kill somebody if you dropped it on their head. You kitbash it yourself or...?
>>96953283That's an Arvus Heavier
>>96953283That one specifically is a print, as is the one in the research complex (which is a different guy's).There's a lunatic from The Conclave forum that built, using plasticard and calipers and insomnia, from scratch, full-scale Rhinos with swappable turrets for two or three different types of Predator/Razorback, an Arvus Lighter, that one truck that featured in that one WD batrep that one time, [other shit I can't remember] and a Sentinel with options of a multilaser or a lascannon - or a fucking extendable forklift with pistons of nested brass rods so it can rotate and lift and carry differently-sized objects.Dude's incredible, it's almost sad to see 3D printers shit these things out so casually given the blood sweat and tears he put into making them.>>96952942>Why do any of this instead of just using 32mm miniatures?Because the bigger toys are more fun. Bigger areas to paint, larger faces to detail, it's just something a bit different.That table in particular was a bit shit, I was handing out the other terrain sets to the other boys that needed something specific, because my scenario could run pretty much anywhere. Ended up with some Cities of Death and random barriers, but such is life on gameday.The comically large Arbites were something we all had a bit of a giggle about, the dude lives a fair way away so he didn't have a way of referencing his scale, he just printed the scans at 200% of GW's !28mm, rather than 165-180%.Like I said, if you can't into ignoring scale, too bad. It sounds like you might have a better time if you stop participating in this thread.
>>96949310>defender of modern slopteam is too retarded to understand that people could possibly want mechanical customization within the rules to accurately reflect what their models are equipped with in the game itselfGrim, but not surprising. Back to your containment general, a thread about Inquisitor is no place for a soulless golem like yourself.
>>96956077You are not forbidden to play the old games you like Anon. Nobody forces you to build the most soulful 54mm Inquisitors you want. If anything, 3d printers made it easier than ever to do just that. But let me guess: You do not even have Inquisitor models in 28mm scale. You just like to bitch and cry for the good old times, while not participating in the hobby at all.
Are any of the primarch models the right size fro Inquisitor?The scale between them seems to be crazy different, like Robot Girlyman and Morty are huge but Lenny Johnson is only a bit bigger than primaris.
>>96946539I think you kind of missed the point with Inquisimunda - you're still supposed to be playing it as a narrative experience by designing your own scenarios, the objective is just to use a ruleset that allows for bigger warbands without requiring a full week's holiday to play through. Inq28 is great until you realize you have more ideas for conversions than you could ever plausibly actually use on a table, which is where Inquisimunda steps in.
>>96956385>Oh shit, I was BTFO. QUICK, BUMBOY, ACTIVATE THE ROCKET-POWERED GOALPOSTS!
>>96963009Where are your Inquisitor miniatures? Or are you just another fake-grog?Face it: Inquisitor is a dogshit game, in a dogshit scale, thats why it never got a "cult" following it like Mordheim did for example.
>>96962992Fair enough - I think it would be more accurate to say Inquisimunda isn't doing what I want to do.The egregiously high-resolution gameplay is what I want out of Inquisitor, I don't really want to use a bigger warband, I want to follow the actions of three to five characters getting improbably-frequently shot in the cock and balls every time a bolt pistol enters frame.I want Hit Locations and Injury Levels, so it matters whether you got hit in the heavily-armoured chest or the un-armoured legs, or the right arm with the dick-seeking bolt pistol or the left carrying a stick with an aquila on.You CAN do all that in a 4+ game by layering fiat atop it, but it isn't really what that system is designed for.Anyway, not really related but here is my WIP social media flagellant crusade associated with >>96952883.Bad luck, looks like you've been selected to do a bit of suffering for your sins. On the upside you can do it on Blind Belle's live pictfeed so everyone knows you're pious.The Tehnolog toys are a little bit shit, but not in a terrible way, and they're fun to work with.
>>96961106Actually on that note is there a list somewhere of 40k stuff that works at inquisitor scale? I guess stuff like daemon princes and ogres, but dreadnoughts and crisis suits seem like they would have stupid proportions stood next to a human at that scale.
>>96944752What you don’t seem to understand is that these games were made for normal people. Your opinions are not normal and have never been tolerated.You will not be missed>>96963212The scale is lacking because it locks you out of all of the models that have been released in the past ten years. Go look at cursed city and use those minis for an inquisitorial warband. Slap some simple browns and tans on and throw a thinned down shade of sephia contrast on them and boom, you have blanshitsu inspired inquisitorial retinue.
>>96964045Play Dark Heresy with miniatures. I recall doing it a couple of times and it kind of worked. It lacked a point system, but the mechanically it can be played as a wargame without issue.
>>96970019Why? I can play Inquisitor with miniatures.I've played some Dark Heresy before, I don't particularly remember feeling that the combat system was a replacement for Inquisitor's, though it was a long time ago.
