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Incorrect previous thread in the OP, my bad.>>96836637
>>96939617Bake a new one and add a One This Day in History post.
Reading through the Chain of Command rules at work because you guys recommended it as an alternative to Bolt Action, and also because work is really boring today.
Why is this general getting spammed with ugly amerindians and jeets recently? What does the OP pic have to do with WARGAMING?
>>96940700My bad about the fantasy pic btw, I clicked a random pic and from the thumbnail it looked historical
>>96939608I've been looking around the troves but I guess we don't have a scan of the victory games Vietnam 1965-1975, nor the GMT edition. Any kind anon to share the full game or at least a high res of the map of either edition?
After a read through of Chain Of Command: It seems fun, the increased level of detail is nice. My main worry is the support lists mechanic might put off fellow players who may not even get to use their brand new Stuart or whatever.
>>96940700>What does the OP pic have to do with WARGAMING?Hello newfriend, let me explain. /hwg/ often has a picture related to a historical event that took place the same day as the new thread was created. Judging by the date and filename, OP went with Cortés arrival to Tenochtitlan.
>>96941464Follow up questions: Is Chain of Command 2E a significant improvement over 1E? And are there Mid War lists anywhere? I could use something for 1942/43 North Africa.
Serving up beehive rounds
Air cavs in a bad spot
>>96939608Any game that has mechanics that illustrate this?Often times in medieval and early modern warfare, the more armored and richer members of a unit would be in the front, and the less armored and poorer members would be in the back, so you can present a more heavy front while still bulking out the mass of a formation.I think billhooks might have done something like that? but I think it was with archers and polearms, not sure about more and less armored infantry.it would be a neat way to get a cheaper overall unit that initially has the same fighting power as a full heavy armor unit, but becomes a light armor unit after sustaining casualties or something.
>>96942584This looks sick, anon
They somehow beat back 2 units of north Vietnamese in melee
The skyraiders and cobras are coming in to save their bacon
How did Romans march 20 miles a day with this god awful heavy ass stick on their shoulder with tons of tools and gear jangling on it? Why didn't they just use backpacks ? I feel like carrying 30lbs lop sides on one shoulder would fuck up my back. Now to mention the pressure from the weighted stick pressing down on your shoulder
>>96943852And this is why the Legion rejected you and you'll be a plebian forever
>>96943780Great looking game! what rules are you using?15mm scale?
Mike Durant, we will not leave you behind>>96944021It's flames of war Nam. Not my favorite rule set but there aren't many battalion level Vietnam games that handle lots of vehicles well.
>side ways Gay
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>>96943852Hard times make hard men, anon.
>>96943852You just do.
>>96943852Is it possible we just have no idea how they carried their equipment? or is it accepted as fact they carried everything on a stick over one shoulder?
Are there any fun black powder era skirmish games? I want to paint a handful of dudes, 10-15 at most, engaged in minor encounters like pillaging, foraging, fighting for the control over farms etc.
>>96946254Yes, a Song of Drum and Shakos and for slightly earlier there is En Garde. You posted FrancoPrussian war pic, and I don't know anything that explicitly covers that era for skirmish, but the two I posted should work with a little bit of imagination. There frankly isn't many explicit options for the Franco/Prussian war in any size battle, for large battles I've seen people use Valour and Fortitude or Men Who Would be Kings, but the FP War is honestly not wargames very much
Painting 15mm is so fucking unpleasant holy shit, I'm never leaving 28mm again. It's too small to easily paint, but big enough that you notice mistakes unlike 6/10mm
>>96947569What mistakes?
>>96939608Question:What are the standard battle formations of the middle ages? I feel like I have a clearer Idea of the ancient world and the early modern world.Phalanxes in the front and skirmishers ar the sides for the greeks, the Hastati then principes then triari for republican romans etc.
>>96943852I would think a stick might actually be better for your back since you can switch positions/leverage points throughout the day istead of a heavy load being on one specific position all day.
>>96950039How to tell us you have never carried a heavy load in your entire life
>>96950643its cuz i make ur mom carry all my heavy loads on her face
>>96939613>https://www.mediafire.com/file/4jrndl7hoy6a2ftCan I get this added to the Fow/Team Yankee folder?Team Yankee - Nato Forces
Anyone play Blitzkrieg Commander 4 and have any thoughts on it?
>>96946207They had carts
>>96951199Added to Rick Roll Trove
Vichy France actually held off the Americans at Oran long enough for support from Germany to arrive. The Americans are launching an attack anyway, but as they're outnumbered in armor, it's not likely to be a cakewalk.
>>96952391Meanwhile, the British have taken a leaf out of Rommel's book and are attempting a desert hook to avoid and surround Tobruk by launching a flanking attack on Bir Hacheim, but the Italians of all people are responding with a counterattack out of Tobruk into Mersa Matruh, hoping to isolate the 8th Army from Cairo, and the British have actually left themselves open to air attack.
anyone know where i can find historical Mini figures for TTS ? im trying to play Lion Rampant with a friend but i cant find anything to adequately represent historical armies of 1300 AD
>>96941464>My main worry is the support lists mechanic might put off fellow players who may not even get to use their brand new Stuart or whatever.You can always just have a set support point limit rather than rolling for it. If someone wants a Stuart then set the point total to a little above the cost of a Stuart>>969421572e is an objective improvement in my opinion. Many units are better balanced, many rules care better defined and there are a lot more player options with the Chain of Command point system.The only existing rules for North Africa are the 1941 ones in this larger pdfhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1FkPlKv5rHVZJs-C7JR8UE5QV4Ovzq-5c/view?usp=sharingHowever if you want to pull in units from 1942-1943 then you can use this database of all of themhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iVO3_AyHeoy87eZQfrl0QN-ZL1e7uvsQSjndzCBokuE/edit?gid=0#gid=0The info is definitely spread out, I would recommend making some sort of document that centralizes the relevant force lists for your theater. Keep in mind that 2e changed the points costs on some units, if that's something that bothers you it would help to cross reference between the 2e book and the provided 1e force lists. You could go full autism like I did and do a complete rebalance of all of the units in your era (1941 Eastern Front for me) but that's a lengthy project. The changes are mostly minor and not worth the full effort unless that sort of thing interests you.
>>96954614Thanks for that info. I didn't see 2E in the trove but will check again or just shell out a few bucks to buy it.
>>96954693It's in the rick roll trove, the book with the orange background cover
Has anyone played ADLG and do you think it's a good game? There is a local tournament and I'm wondering if it's worth learning or not
>>96955131The only purpose of ADLG is to be broad enough to have a big tournament going so if you are lucky to have one then go for it.
>>96947569I think those look pretty dang nice anon.
>>96953729Isn't barons war stuff suited for up until 1350-ish?
>>96955131>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/AncientIt's a decent tourny game, I would play if there was a local scene. I don;t really rate it as a historical simulation, but it's decent. Obligatory: https://madaxeman.com/>>96956816Nah, 1270/80s AD at the latest, by 1350 you have proper plate armour.
>>96946254>>96946865https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/176992/bloody-big-battlesAlso Sharpe Practice.Adopting a Napeolonic rules set for FPW probably means eschewing formation and making the ranged weaponry more lethal. I can't believe i'm even bothering to reply but posting "x doesn't exist" after no cursory search gets me every fucking time, amazed to have been told I'm a problem poster only to step back for a good month and watch you tearshreds off of one another.
Does anyone have the V3 Armies of the soviet union for bolt action, i have been looking everywhere for the past 2 weeks and have kept coming up empty handed
My first foray into painting WW2 minis. Excuse the screwed up faces, consider it teething pains w/ painting smaller scale miniatures.General thoughts before I start the next batch? Are colours correct, etc. The back right guy was the first model painted and the scheme was WAY off.
those germans look sick mate
>>96954881Thanks anon, I grabbed it. We're gonna try it out later this week
>>96959850100% awesome, especially considering your first WW2 minis!? top job
Today, November 11th, Armistice Day, we commemorate the end of the fighting in the Great War.I've taken this opportunity to add several WWI rules to the 'Rick Roll Trove'.
Hey guys I want to get into bolt action but I'm worried about the models themselves. I've heard that some infantry kits can be kinda annoying to assemble because theyre either metal, or the guns are seperate from the hands. Is there any particularly good or easy infantry kits I should get to dip my toes in?
>>96960814>November 11th>No discount on WGA's Great War range.C'est fini.
>>96961182perry or victrix. warlord is trash. or get metals.
>>96961192This is such a weird take: don't use bolt action minis for bolt action.They are fine and getting better allthe time. Put a little PVA on a contact point for a superglued join, it will cure very strongly.>>96961182If anything Warlord are made for wargamers: easy to assemble.As a genera rule don't let autistic nogames cunts invent fake obstacles from you just mucking in and making a start. It's the only way to get good at the hobby. Many people here will be waiting in 5 years for the "perfect" rules or minis when it's a craft and game loop you can have fun starting now.
>>96961585Don't listen to this little jew. Warlord is objectively the worst option for 28mm WW2. You're paying significantly more to get less models of a lower quality. There is 0 benefit to choosing warlord over other 28mm plastic WW2 figures, not a single one. They are all easy to assemble, that is not some special benefit only warlord models have.
>>96961604Except getting a box with terrain, dice and the rulebook. If they are his first run half of them will end up repainted and given to random nephews three times over anyway. Thanks, lunatic
>>96961192>>96961604The Perry and Victrix ranges are very limited. Apart from Warlord, who else makes 28mm plastic figures for World War II?
>>96961651Perry and Victrix are nice and allbut you're correct.
>>96961585Thanks, I'll pick whatever german infantry looks coolest and mess around and see if I like bolt action! I'll have like 30 of the dudes to mess around with anyways.
>>96961604Bullshit. There are less than 10 plastic sets for ww2 infantry if you ignore warlord. If you don't want Italians (wga has a nice set) or veteran Germans (victrix) you have lost. Warlord hate really gets irrational here.
>>96961585>easy to assemblelolthe british infantry I have were terrible to put together, some of the arms didn't even fit properly
>>96961868Do you even hobby?
>>96961817It's just one guy. I think he's shitposting so it's not a big deal.
There are many historical wargames that make for good alternative wargames as well but are there any alternative wargames that beg to be turned into historicals?
>>96943780Nice terrain and minis anon.
>>96961182The metal one I had didn't fit great. The resins are kinda shitty but preassembled anyway. The platoon packs of 30 plastic guys are a dream to put together and a retard could do it in their sleep, I can't imagine a reasonable person taking issue with them. Get the winter fallschirmjager, they have cozy pajamas.
HELLO.Does anyone make M-14 carrying Cold War USA boys in 15mm....That is in stock?I see there is a dead company, but no live ones.Thanks.
>>96960814Victrix German infantry are great. Warlord kits are good (don’t let autists tell you otherwise). Metals aren’t hard to put together, grogs have been doing it for decades. Scrub them with a toothbrush in warm water with a little detergent to get rid of mould release agent, rinse thoroughly, and use a good superglue like zap-a-gap thick with zip-kicker for instant cure, or pinning and 5-minute epoxy if you’re worried.
>>96952394How are you handling force translation between strategic layer and tabletop? Like does one Axis and Allies tank equal X points to spend on armor in Bolt Action or something?
>>96939608Whats a historical game like warhammer fantasy/old word that still has a decent playerbase?Im not exactly sure what it is, but most historical rulesets just dont engage me like old world battle reports do. And I know its not the big cool monsters or magic, cause I like shit like Empire and I find the totally non fantastic elements engaging. Stuff like having indivigual unit removal feels a lot more crunchy and satisfying then just different conditions like disordered, I like the feel and power of artillery, how combat resolution works and the differences between retreat in good order, flee, testing to reform wheeling, etc.
