Saviour of Marienburg edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous thread:>>96937423>Thread question:Let's be frank, there's only one topic of discussion that could go here. Keep talking about the stream.
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>>96946881>tqGenuinely why did they do it
>TQThe models were nice, but it was a very poorly run stream and a pathetic show for a company of GW's size.
where's Yuan Bo?
>>96946965Do white women really?
>>969469152025 GW standards
>>96946881TQ: I don't give a fuck about photoshopping. We have minis all over the GW website with misspaints, spills, chipped minis.
>>96947023Let's be honest, if the genders were flipped and you had the opportunity you'd do it as well.
>>96947047100%
>>96947045Most egregious example of that kind of thing I've ever seen was back when they were first rolling out 360-degree images and for some bizarre reason the Baneblade they used was completely missing a huge section of one of its tracks at the rear. Always wondered how on Earth something like that could have gotten onto the webstore, I find it unbelievable that they only had one (1) single painted Baneblade available at the whole of GW HQ.
>>96947042>>96947045I mean it's just such a weird decision to make on a unit with four (4) models. Managed to paint up the peasants just fine, and they let the eavy metal team go fucking crazy on the nurgle stuff. The crane & ironhail gunners pics definitely feel like some intern's fuckup.
>>96947070the nurgle minis look like shit. Very much "Sanitized" Nurgle
>>96946915because it makes the moulds smaller and cheaper so they can churn out more units instead of giving a high quality kit to a unit that's inevitably going to be very stiff in an aiming pose anyway
>>96947076Honestly I think they're nastier than end times blight kings. Those have always been a bit too cartoony for me, same with 40kek death guard and their mouth bellies. Some dude with his guts just falling out hits harder than a guy with 20 tentacles or a bell in his guts. Also this bitch is just nasty.
>>96947070Man, these are fucking great.
>>96947076Really, we're gonna pretend these look bad now?
>>96947110the whq ones look better to me, silly raised shield pose aside
>>96947110i mean they look bad in a good way like they should. PPl just want to bitch about everything gw do. Tho im coping that beastman gonna get visual update "soon"
>>96947089i think you missed the point, they painted two models and copypasted them on photoshop to get 4
>>96947076>santizied nurgle>they have visible guts hanging outSanitizied nurgle has mouth instead of guts, you are full of shit
>>96947220Weird thing is that the video did actually show fully painted models, they just didn't use it for the promotional pic for some fucking reason
>>96947220It not like the missing models have new parts, it's just a sprue of 2 models repeated twice for the crane gunners and a sprue of 3 models repeated twice for the drake guns
anyone else feel that fantasy is just kinda "the elephant in the room" with GW?
>>96947319How so?
>>96947110>>96947215REEEEEEEEE HORN-BEARING SPECIES DON'T HAVE INCISORS AND MOLARS IN THE UPPER JAW
>>96947215They are push-fit though
>>96947319No, I don't think that [thread topic] is [latest meme]
>>96947322its persisting popularity even though GW killed it off and replaced itlike they don't want to address fantasy but have to because theres a market for itthat sort of thing
>>96947354Why would they not want to address it if there is a market for it?
>>96947374they'd rather have all the "fantasy warhammer" talk etc be about AoS, their main game
Gnoblars and And there Masters Ogre who's smarter ?
>>96947388They don't give a shit, they just want to make money.
Played a bloody Battle March battle of 500. Standard pitch battle but 15" gap under the new maps.The Khornate horde tore through the Cathayan left flank but then the infantry were murdered. The Chaos Hero and Knights, returned to the field after chasing them off.After a failed charge, the Cathayan infantry counter charged and drove them from the field! Was pretty fun honestly, it all came down to one charge and if the Warriors could hold, but alas they broke.Still, Khorne was satisfied, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
>>96947399the ogreogres are genuinely smart, they just don't apply themselves or learn how to apply themselves better because their first answer to problems is violence, and since they're ogres, that's often enough to solve their problems gnoblars are pitiful things, nasty, but one of the lowest of the low amongst greenskins
>>96947433>floorhammernice, glad you had a fun game anon
>>96947488Thanks mang. Ya, floorhammer brought me back to being a kid but, ironically, it ran mega smoothly. Comfy on the knees too.
>>96946881best TOW artwork so far
>>96947325They're half human, fellow biology autist, there there.
>>96947218what did you do to get that green?
>>96947433Unpainted cathay, classicIn all seriousness, sounds like a fun game. Been having a lot of fun with battle march.
>>96947070the Jezzails are 8 models, crane gunners are 12 but i assume they are basically hand cannons rather than guns
>>96947567It's legit. My friend said,and I quote>Damn that was far better than even our 1500 point battleIt's super easy to set up and just little moments like the cavalry vs his infantry block with general, 10/10.
Damn why are the latest AJs so much larger in filesize compared to the others?
>>96947784GW stopped doing the Digital versions of the AJ for some reason
>>96947401Just because they’re turbokikes doesn’t mean they’re okay admitting they were wrong
>>96947796So they're high quality rips then? No complaints here.
What mercenaries work well with the new border prince lists? I heard cannon ogres or great weapon badlands ogres can do really well. Also, can the princes use any mounts besides horses?
>>96946881>TQI liked the Cathay stuff they revealed, but honestly, since they made deal about the reveal show being the last one of the year I expected a lot more (which is my fault for even remotely having that level of faith in GW). Not just from Old World, but from 30k as well.Also the stream was such a shit show it sucked the fun out of laughing at GW and was actively depressing.
>>96948029>can the princes use any mounts besides horses?Only a Warhorse and a Barded Warhorse as options
>>96947110Strong ugly bastard vibe
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I was looking at some Impala Man pages on the website 1d6chan.miraheze.org and it mentions with the Empire of few of them that certain parts of it are based off of parts of the Holy Roman Empire the Empire is based on like not just physically and I'm guessing to more or less different extents but actual historically known name parts that made up the Holy Roman Empire as a whole.So are any of the Empire's provinces partially based off of or around historical Prussia?
>>96948137I don't think any are based on Prussia strictly Middenheim/Middenland might be the closest but even then I'm not so sure
>>96947110What's up with the red bellies?
>>96948049Damn. I got excited hearing about how some bretonnia or imperial options could be taken, but I guess mounts were not allowed. I wanted to avoid making new characters.I also had some autistic back story of a border kingdom that smuggled exotic creatures that I used in ap ast WHFRP game.
>>96947401they'd rather have my money go towards AoS to make it look bigger than TOW
>>96948183You get Magic items options depending on how you build your character options, but it doesn't say Mount options, so I personally would err on the side of not allowing Mounts from those factions but you can easily check with an event organiser or your opponents if it's okay.
>>96948218bad wording"they'd rather have my money go towards AoS rather than TOW to make AoS look bigger"
>>96948237fuck thats still bad wordingto make AoS look bigger than it is in general, not compared to TOW
Playing Underworld Denizens in Blood Bowl makes me wish that skaven could ally with O&G>>96948176Those are bits of muscle and organs sticking out of tears in the skin. The yellow bits are subcutaneous fat.
No new Marauders in the Sunday preview, maybe next week
>>96948137while the empire itself is very clearly based on the hre the individual elector states don't really have clear 1 to 1 parallels, except sylvania (take a wild guess) and marienburg/westerland being dutch.
>>96948061>even painted horizontal slit pupilsVery nice.
>>96948405>except sylvania (take a wild guess)Berlin isn't *that* bad
>>96948462>Berlin isn't *that* badAnon the city imploded when they didn't have electricity for 3 days
>>96948041I’m still of the opinion the new Marauders were supposed to be apart of the show but they forgot to make a special crate for the promo material so they had to reveal it sooner.
>>96947110These are damn good. Not over the top like previous Nurgle-aligned sculpts, just the right amount of sick to them.
>>96946915I think these look great, my only complaint is the other ranged kit having heads with the flowing hair looks pretty weird.
>>96947110I prefer these >>96947215These look cool too but the naked ones speak to me more. Beastbros eating good.
>>96948544>not even their reveal>still end up with the best new kitshow do beastbros keep winning so hard
Today we played the finale of the Chaos vs. Empire campaign. The Forces of Darkness, consisting of Chaos Warriors (2 players), Orcs, and Chaos Dwarves, laid siege to the Empire's fortress (3 players).Here's a photo before the assault.
>>96948692here after the first volleys and explosions (where there is no wall, there is one, only badly damaged)
>>96948705One of the Chaos players placed 3 (!!) Dragons.The first one was shot down by cannons, the second one was killed by a Grandmaster, and the third one was killed by a tank.
>>96948719The Chaosites managed to break through the first line of defense, and the defenders prepared to fight in the citadel itself, but squads of knights arrived to lift the siege!
>>96948746The knights dealt a powerful blow to the enemy's rear...but were unable to completely route them. A squad of trolls still held sway in the towers, while squads of orcs plundered the courtyard.The players agreed on a minor victory for the Empire!But there will be a new campaign and a rematch.
>>96948692Finally, this is peak Warhammer.
>>96948692I love effortposting>>96948705I have those very same Bull Centaurs, happy to see them here
>>96948766Wonderful, brings tears to my eyes
>>96948766Beautiful battle, love the scenery.
>>96948218>>96948251goddamnit i can't get my wording right. what about>AOS is bigger than TOW and i have an inferiority complex about it that i need to soothe by pretending GW is foregoing money for some kind of "corporate pride"
>>96948462you're right, it's worse
>>96948766Literally like the arrival of Rohan, the Imperial Knights emerged at a critical moment in the battle. Only this time, the forces of Darkness were prepared.The Chaos Marauders had already decimated one squad of knights, but they paid dearly for it.
>>96948987It was clear what you meant in the first post, it made perfect sense.
>>96947076Let me guess, you LOVE the nusloppa Nurgle stuff where the models were 80% Nurglings peering out of assholes.You're delusional. The Nurgle reveals were unironically so good I'll be stealing most of them to make a 6th WHFB army with.
>>96947076The only bad ones are the Blightkings for being bizarrely lacking in mutations.
>>96947076I prefer the southern louisiana occult vibe than whatever the fuck you want.
>>96948987GW is a retarded company, they absolutely would do or not do shit for "corporate pride", especially when it comes to AoS
>>96949106Lookswise I consider them more of a sidegrade. I really like the weapons, the armor, the ribbons and drapery, the horns, and just the absolute girth of these lads. Mutations might be lacking but that also means none of what I mentioned is overshadowed, there's nobody with a giant hole in their belly where that's 90% of what you notice about them.But aside from just looking sick the current blightkings also have an incredible amount of variety in terms of build options. You can get five boxes of them and still have none of the assembled models end up looking the same. That's what I'm afraid the new models won't measure up to, because almost no other kits currently carried by GW does.
>>96949178a man can only hope that mutations will finally be going to tzeentch instead since he's woefully lacking them, being the chaos god of change and all
>>96946881okay /wfg/ fellas, you have some explaining to do, why aren't (YOU) posters in here hobbyposting properly like >>96949208 and >>96948692
>>96949225i'm not going to hobby post on making up lore till i get around to purchasing all the AJ's to make sure i have the most complete picture.
>>96949225Gotta paint all of my gobbos first you dipI aint posting grey tide
>>96949246You can still share lore for your dudes; who leads them, where they hail/reside, or where they are going now, etc
Taking me way too long to finish this guy, but it's getting there.
>>96949225I'm lazy and indolent
>>96949225working on chaos warriors drove me away from the faction entirely. Now im just waiting to see if Kislev interests me (cathay sure as hell didnt.)
More knights.
>>96946890This is really cute when you remember that, as Sigmar's late wife, this is more a grandma trying to reconnect with the grandkids.
>>96949293I love empire Knights
>>96949208Soul
>>96949225I posted 2 threads ago about my special scenario (ambush) game
>>96949622>cathay Fuck off
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>>96949260superb
>>96946881HERE YA GO FREN
>>96949225my little 1300pts battle from last week, lizardmen vs tomb kings in 2 weeks
>>96949687Does TOW/WFB even have any good merch?
>>96949740https://burgschneider.com/pages/warhammer-armoury#earlyaccess
>>96949246I see your point>>96949274aw>>96949292What's so bad about them, too repetitive to paint?>>96949622Always glad to see Beastmen and cool ass chairs. Love the sludge pits>>96949693This is nice but would look much better in proper lighting. Get the creases out too, the only thing that worked for me was literally putting a our dining table upside down on the mat and leaving it like that for days. That ruins terrain piece in the back seems cool from here
>empire handgun upgrade kit What are they to be used with? I'm only familiar with whole metal or plastic kits for empire before 6th edition
>>96949818I'm not sure that the merch code includes that.Decent stuff though, wonder when they will release the armour since the timeline only says Autumn 2025 for that
>>96949818>get license for fantasy stuff >still do the most historical-looking stuffI'd buy a suit of chaos armor
>>96950043Considering they haven't released anything but Empire, and next it's going to be Brettonia next, Chaos is a ways off.
>>96950043It'll look like shit. Larp is only good when there's some authenticity but outside of empire and brets it's all nonsensical fantasy shit
>>96950096You could do decent Norsca as well I'm not sure about the other factions though.Cathay as well, but I'm not sure there would be much of a market inthe West for that.
>>96950061shame, at least ghal maraz is a fun thingcan't really think of many other iconic weapons they could domaybe gotrek's axe or a bloodletter's sword?
>>96950128The Everchosens Sword, maybe?
>>96950096>it's all nonsensical fantasy shitthen you shouldn't be buying a licence ror doing larp equipment for a fantasy setting helmets alone for stuff like chaos warriors, black orcs, high elves and dwarfs would be pretty cool
>>96949225Been super busy recently so my hobby has suffered. Redoing one of my orc boys banner bearers with a proper banner so I can do some freehand, rather than the skull on a stick banner top which he had previously.>>96949818I'm curious to know where GW is going with this, as their reputation for being overly litigious with their IP precludes small larps based in their universes starting up imo.>>96950096It's possible to do well, but essentially has to be fully custom and is rare as fuck due to that price point. Even then, it's hard to get the nessecary height and broadness unless you are a 6"10 brick shithouse.
>>96950198A lot of Warhammer LARPs do exist, though, and it's an area that GW never cared about due to the creative team getting mistaken for IRA members in the early 90s when they were LARPing
>>96950231True, pretty much all of those are in Europe though, and beyond the immediate grasp of GW. There's also lots of wink wink nudge nudge "oh it's just inspired by The Old World", but who knows how effective that stuff ever really is. I know that a few 40k games in bongland have had run ins with the geedubs legal team before for sailing too close to the wind.
>>96950198Yeah it does seem like a major issue with chaos warrior LARP would be that you cannot in fact be an 8 foot tall nordic mutant ubermensch. I guess you could build stilts into the costume.
>>96950356The Russian LARP has some decent Orc costumes from the random gifs that have been posted in these generals
>>96950198>>96950356You don't need to be particularly tall for the costume to still look big.thick armour, a tall helmet and a heavy cape can do a lot.
>>96950231Anon you can't just casually drop that bit of info and then not expand on it
>>96950542It's a secondhand anecdote from Robin Dews in an interview where Bryan Ansell thought the Dark Future setting might work as a PaintBall experience since those were popular in the early 90s, and they tried it out in some random woodland in Yorkshire and got surrounded by the North Yorkshire armed Police who thought they had kidnapped some Couch drivers.time stamp 13:55.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS7hgegCDdc&list=PL6bfvapxAK_aFuNykscd_aVkSXyKDUitd&index=8pp4dk
>>96950398True, the problem is that this can make your proportions look a bit wonky. While it can look fine in still images, actually being able to move in it and have that look natural is a different matter entirely (as well as the obvious problem of having to physically wear the stuff if it's an extra bunch of metal on your shoulders for long periods of time). It's why I'm never fully sold on the orc costumes mentioned by >>96950365 , they can look a bit goofy when actually moving due to having to bulk the legs out to match the upper body.>>96950356I've worn a few different monster suits that have stilts build in, it works fairly well to give you an extra half a foot to a foot of height, but any more than that gets pretty difficult to safely run around, particularly at speed.
Did a 1000 teaching game against a Tomb King player today. My beastmen but played a bit less try hardy vs skeletons, casket, and tombking on chariot with 2 chariot unit.Was only a minor victory on my side cause his tomb king did donuts around the field constantly unable to charge cause I'd move out of front arc, and he took the banner from my primal herd and I killed the casket and all his archers and a 2 model tomb swarm. That's all the points earned by either sidewas 250 vs 390. Wait is that a minor victory?Preyton did no damage again this match, but did force a ton of area denial. Bit expensive for it's value. Rolled bad spells for my shaman too.Anyone else get a game in this weekend?
>>96950858>250 vs 390. Wait is that a minor victory?If we go by the Match Play Guide a 140-point lead at 1000 points would count as a Minor or Marginal victory
>>96946915Gross
>>96950884Aight, forgot if it was at 150 break off.6x5 block of thrusting spear skeleton warriors is better than it looks on paper. And the 2 detachment of 15 archers did pretty good for their cost, even though they only one of the units for to do a single stand and shoot whole game. 2 x 10 ungors archers in ambush continues to punch up, and Centigors with Scourge of the Burdened is a great support unit.So thrusting spears just straight give fucked up number of attacks? Dude was rolling 24 (shitty) attacks on combat.
>>96950365>The Russian LARP has some decent Orc costumesCostumes? Ruzzians just look that way.
>>96949843They went with the plastic "Soldier's of The Empire" kit, the basic kit gave you the option to make them with sword and shield or polearms but was also boxed with either metal arms with handguns or crossbows to make your missile troops. I think there were also three separate metal upgrade kits for your command options.
Is it me or does every games workshop store employee either dismisses fantasy battles or even seem to dispose it. I have even seen them project this in a lesser extent to the old world.
>>96951344Might just be your area. When I asked about it as a relative new comer the employee pointed me towards other stores in the city that carried product. They did start carrying rulebooks and get Battalion boxes every so once in a while, so maybe my city just has too many oldhead interested.
The skaven have hatched a fiendish plot
>>96951542lol lmao
>>96951542Inexplicable feelings of dread when I was in Boston, now I know why
>>969509472 ranks of 6 being charged + thrusting spear extra rank = 19 with champ?
>>96946881my art friend finished the line art on my skaven girls, coloring will be done in a week!do you like ratgirls, anons?
>>96951703>Inexplicable feelings of dreadIrish-American alcoholic/depressant addict Catholic guilt miasma. Boston is the Mordheim of America.>inb4 but what about Chicago/Baltimore/St. LouisI said Mordheim, not the Badlands
>>96951756That's what I thought. But the way it's worded is its movement limited not rank limited. So 2 extra ranks fight.
>>96947325Im assuming this guy is a retard and not just trolling but beastmen are usually described as having mutated canines and sharp teeth, these are the first that actually depict that properly, theyre mutant men with horns, not goat men.
>>96950947>So thrusting spears just straight give fucked up number of attacksThey allow one extra rank to join the fighting rank. Assuming ranks of 6 and he didn't charge, your bro should've had 18 attacks, not 24.
>>96948518I feel like thats incredibly unlikely and kind of absurd, the promo crates weren't even used apart form in like one promo video for the nurgle stuff.
>>96950043I will be buying Bretonnia slop unless it's horrendously bad
>>96951962That's what I thought. Not that it helped him in this match up, but good to confirm.
If you were locked in a room with someone who said they were a Warhammer but all they experienced was Total war and Astartes how quickly would you curbstomp them?
>>96951893Read it again, it is both rank and movement limited.
>>96950043>historical clothing company makes historical-looking LARPslopAIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>96950043They should do blood bowl stuff. Showing up to a Warhammer larp as a reikland reaver and just tackling some chaos dude mid battle is a hell of a fucking thing to pull off.
Is there any news on the Chaos Cult armies in the upcoming book? I want to make an all Tzeentch WoC force.Ideal situation would be the ability to take Discs as mounts and have some Tzeentch Demons.
Anyone have a link for Fabelzels chaos dwarfs collection?
How's this list look? Haven't picked a lore for the wizards, but odds are they're taking hashut spells anyway. Friend really wants to play chaos dwarfs, and he's lost 7 matches in a row and said to try making a list for him. Only question is just owning the dagger of malice give all those abilities, or only when using it. Cause if it's when using, he shouldn't be able to be frenzy baited cause he would choose to walk around with the other weapon out. But if he does just get those abilities without using the weapon, then two-hand weapons is worth having on him.General Chaos Dwarf [999 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs, Renegade, Open WarDaemonsmith Sorcerer, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], General, Breath of Hashut, Daemonology - 110Daemonsmith Sorcerer, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], Daemonology - 8510 Hobgoblin Cutthroats - 3010 Hobgoblin Cutthroats - 3010 Infernal Guard, Fireglaives - 15010 Infernal Guard, Fireglaives - 15010 Sneaky Gits - 6010 Sneaky Gits - 60Magma Cannon - 125Bull Centaur Taur'ruk, Great weapon, Dagger of Malice, Obsidian Vambraces - 199
>>96952659Also, man do chaos dwarfs kind of suck.You would be way better off to play greenskins, and ally some chaos dwarfs into it
>>96952291Unfortunately WoC currently cannot take discs
>>96952695Right but the hope is that the Tzeentch Cult of Chaos Army of Infamy in the upcoming book will allow it.
>>96950620NYPD strikes again.
>>96952723Man, if that happens I'd be happy. So, so happy. Of course it'd be trivial to homebrew discs for Sorcerers since the rules exist for Daemons, which is what I'd do, but I think having official rules for it would be nice. Especially for those who play with randoms. Anyway, can't wait to see what they do with the cults. I'm currently building a Tzeentch WoC army and I'd love to see more mono god flavored mechanics. Maybe even the ability to dip into the daemons unit range.
>>96951759>do you like ratgirls, anons?Occasionally, yes.
>>96952291I doubt there will be demons. I think the chaos gods for norscans are more subtle. Tzeench being the raven god, khorne the hound and nurgle the crow.
>>96950884So m is minor, cv is probably crushing victory, what does the r stand for?
>>96953219resounding victory
>>96952659I thought you had to field a unit of renders to use a Tauruk but maybe I'm wrongEven so the list is somewhat confusing. Fireglaives can both shoot and fight. If you can't have Black Orcs, field a unit of 18 Fireglaives. 6 wide so they can fire more shots.Keep a unit of Cutthroats, give them armor and increase their model count so they can tarpit.Keep a unit of Sneaky Gits for shenanigans, Magma Cannon is good too, but you need a hammer unit that actually kills, so an Iron Daemon or Bull Centaur Renders.As it stands right now each unit will just die immediately if charged since they're so tiny so you need to up survivability.
the cathay jezzails would be way cooler if they didnt have the random guy holding the shield, that makes it look fucking stupid. it makes sense with skaven because they obviously don't value the lives of other rats.
>>96953173Holy shit touch the grassiest of grassesDo you know how disgusted any real woman would be if she knew you posted stuff like this? Do something with your life you massive waste-of-oxygen gooner
>>96953402>Do you know how disgusted any real woman would be if she knew you posted stuff like this?Why do you care about what random women think?
>>96953413I don't, but I have enough of a brain to maintain a functional relationship with one, whereas you don't.
>>96953425weird projection
>>96953402>implying any woman wouldn't find that image cute
>>96953402YWNBAW
>>96953402Perryfaggot post
Keep the furshit and trannyshit out of this general, thanks.
>>96953493Of course I'm not a woman you fucking retard, do you want me to mail you a photo of my sack nigga
>>96951344GW store employees are primarily focused on meeting their KPIs, which will fall into two categories: specific targets for new product launches, and general targets for revenue. It's rare that new product launches won't basically take care of themselves, they'll almost certainly sell out of whatever allocation they receieve, so their primary concern is meeting overall sales targets and the unfortunately reality is that being a "specialist studio" game, TOW stuff isn't going to be a big part of their ongoing, meat & potatoes stock. It'll get a little token corner with a limited selection of stuff from the most recent releases, but 9/10 times if someone walks in looking for a TOW or 30K or Nucromunda or whatever product, the wagie will have to direct them to the internet and they know damn well if they do that most people won't even use the official GW website to order, let alone do it from the in-store ordering terminal and come back to collect it which is the only way that sale counts towards their sales stats.Much better, from the perspective of the wagie looking to keep their job, to do the bare minimum required for launch weeks of new niche products and focus their efforts on pushing Space Marines and Stormcast. Also most of GW's stores are now run by disinterested retail staff hired to sell shit rather than actual hobbyists - for a while having more than a passing interest in GW products was actually counted against you if you applied for their retail arm, on the assumption that a real hobbyist might do dangerous things like suggest what a customer might actually want rather than what GW wants them to buy.
>>96953623you would like that, wouldn't you, bitch?
>>96951344My local GW at least doesn't shelve TOW products at all. They rely entirely on the LGS scene to sell the product.
>>96953641Hey retard,I never claimed to be a woman in the first placeYou are so gooned up on trannyporn, of course it's the first thing you think offAgain, touch the grassiest grass on planet grass you absolute goonbrained coomlord
>>96953625>most of GW's stores are now run by disinterested retail staff hired to sell shit rather than actual hobbyistsThat's been the case fore at least a decade
>>96953625This is going to sound autistic as fuck (and it is) but I've been going around a fair few yuropean cities for work recently and I like to check out the local gw store after I've run out of touristy shit to do and pretend to be a total newcomer just to kind of see how they treat you. Especially since I often come in on 'off-hours' so it's usually just me and the dude running the store. In my experience the people running the store are usually pretty passionate about the game(s), mostly 40k and aos though. That being said it's quite clear that gw mandates them to heavily push the starter boxes/magazine gimmicks quite strongly to newbies. The only exception has been one of the brussels stores where the dude just completely left me alone me when it became clear I don't speak french lel.
>>96953660>I'm not the one gooned up on trannyporn for wanting to post my balls online!>you're the weird one for *checks thread* posting an anime skaven fanart by a girl
>>96953715>left me alone me when it became clear I don't speak french lel.Did you try Flemish instead?
>>96953734>flemish>in brusselslol. lmao, even.
>>96953731You illiterate nigger - I said I'd mail them to you, as a matter of hyperbole, since you think I'm a woman simply because I can understand what women are and aren't disgusted by.
Good morning everybody. I come bearing gifts from the Dark Gods. Praise be! Marauders: 30mm bases, no more marks. Foot marauders get light armor built in and horsemen get shields but lose skirmish. The new tribal aspects replace marks. They get once per game effects, mostly stat buffs. There's new mutations for units. Most units can pick one, a few can pick two and they can be duplicated. There's some minor restrictions to who can take what, but otherwise they're mostly "choose any you want". They are useful buffs like conditional stat buffs, MR, or other miscellaneous bonuses. They're pretty juicy. There's a new spell lore as well. Fairly solid from what I have heard, but has a couple of oddities in it. The new magic items have some interesting ones, but nothing groundbreaking. No mammoth, no new dragon, and the only new profiles are the updates to the RH marauders. Release date imminent.
>>96953779didn't this guy get utterly btfo by settra's arcane journal
>>96953715>The only exception has been one of the brussels stores where the dude just completely left me alone me when it became clear I don't speak french lel.Did you try repeating yourself, but louder.
>>96953781Look we'll take any leaks we can get alright
>>96953770would have gotten an interesting response at least
>>96951344From my experience, newer GW store employees are pure 40k fags. Only the old store manager was a veteran and was also really into TOW. Sadly he got promoted and the new store manager is just another 40k fag.
>>96953776cry more, whore
>>96953871zzz
>>96953779Wowee what a leak. Doing guesswork that follows the same pattern as every other AJ, i.e anyone could come up with it. The person who wrote this was really putting their reputation on the line.
>>96951344Can’t sell a daily quota of combat patrols if someone has an interest in tomb kings.
>>96954029it's worded pretty funny honestly"yeah there will be some restrictions on this but other than that you've got some choices""some interesting stuff but nothing too interesting""fairly solid but with some oddities"this says absolutely nothing definite besides mammoths and dragons are not coming, which yeah of course, they're not showing those fuckers in some monday article
>>96946915These are models designed to facilitate playing a game. You wouldn't know about that.
>>96954062he's talking about the copy pasted paintjob retard
>>96947401You're wrong, because there are several "theys" involved with different degrees of power.Like there's probably a head of product design for all GW, then a lead product designer for the main studio, and a lead product designer for SDS. Maybe even further subcategorized into lead product designer for 40K, AoS, etc. They all have competing motives. Like the AoS guy would lowkey want TOW to fail, it existing only limits his options.
>>96954091sure but in the context of the original 'addressing the elephant in the room' conversation 'they' are just the overall financial guys / shareholders. I'm sure the aos lead wouldn't be too happy if tow suddenly exploded in popularity but what the fuck would he have to do with it
>>96954137There's bound to be politicking involved. Like the main studio lead and the AoS lead go to a pub for lunch and the AoS lead moans about resource allocations or how his team had already concepted the next wave of Skaven so they definitely can't go back to TOW, etc.Parts of different teams are going to be making different pitches to the higher-ups, some will fail, some will succeed. It's a competition for resources between branches. The lead guys may also have their favourites. You can say "they just want money" or whatever but that's an oversimplification. If the guy with power is literally the same guy who invented/instigated AoS he's going to be committed to AoS succeeding for his own sense of self-worth and legacy. Everything they sell "makes money" and their production is currently maxed out, they have room to be picky and champion their faves.
>>96954200Eh again i'm sure there's politicking involved but I just don't subscribe to this idea that GW begrudgingly brought back fantasy and just hates giving it attention. They're more than happy to make money, they don't give a fuck if it's aos, tow, fucking legiones imperialis.>if the guy with power is the same guy who instigated AoSSee this I could believe but I'm pretty sure that was alan merrett and he's been gone from gw for nearly a decade. Jervis Johnson has also been retired for about 4-5 years and he was the main rules guy for early aos iirc. Tom kirby too, has been long gone.
>>96954289I feel like the existence of new models and a whole new faction is proof enough they don’t hate it. If it was purely about making money, Ultramarines are getting their balls fondled in 40k because Space Marine 2 made stacks of cash, Total War renewed interest in WHFB and a major release of TOW is catering to people who waifu’d Miao Ying, while AoS is the elephant in the room for not having a hit game to print them money and direct people to buy models.
>>96954371I am convinced heresy is bigger than AoS.
>>96954404Maybe when it comes with hard sales rather than actual players, because I can bet most of the HH purchases are for 40k.
DwarfsAm I fucked
say something nice about him
Concepting some mongolian themed chaos warriors (on horseback of course)Not sure if they should resemble chaosified jade lancers, or better to start with marauder horsemen?
>>96954522it wont work.
>>96954499>somehow mogged by AGE OF SIGMAR nurgle of all things in terms of armour designs.Genuinely how did they fumble this so hard bretonnia has to be the single easiest faction to sculpt models for
>>96954522If you’re sticking with official kits, you may as well just get both and see how they fit together.
>>96954534It's also weird since all the new Brettonian characters were great it was just the foot knight redesign that was shit
>>96946881I am of the opinion that Estellia would be a great army/nation to expand the lore upon if not for wokeness. Spanish history is among the most exciting and Spanish literature is world renowned.
>>96954547Disagree the foot knights look great
>>96954547I didnt like the standard bearer.
>>96954549humanity in warhammer is boring so I wouldnt care for it
>>96954553What's good about them anon?
>>96954499I want to have a word with whomever did that helmet.
>>96954566They look like they were making crusaders for 40k and halfway thru decided to retrofit for brets
>>96954565>humanity in warhammer is boringYou sound like an immensely insufferable faggot, and I'm glad the powers that be gave >>96954566 the dubs
>>96954566Uhh they look cool?
>>96954560The plastic or the resin ones?since the mounted and foot Resin ones are better than the plastic one of a pegsus
>>96954530You give a vague ass answer and provide 0 explanation You might as well have not commentedMore of an indictment on your own lack of imagination and conversion skills
>>96954585Can you explain why they look cool to you anon? What part of them is cool to you?
>>96954549>world renownedlol nobody knows any spanish literature except for don quixote qnd mayyybe one hundred years of solitude and the latter is not even spanish
>>96954598Why so you can be a dick about it? How about you look for attention from some women for once instead of random men on 4chan
>>96954607>I'm a retard who only knows a couple books, therefore other books aren't famous or belovedDon't toddlers have object permanence? You're getting mogged by my preschool-aged nephew.
>>96954583sorry anon, but humanity in warhammer just lacks will. They dont feel have ambitions. They just are archetypes.
>>96954522Maybe reckon do chaos knights starting from lancers, and bowmen starting from chaos marauder horsemen?Your more elite dudes should be armoured i guess
>>96954621>Why so you can be a dick about it?No, I am genuinely curious, since honestly can't see why someone would think they are cool, since I prefer more historically based Knights models, but liking overtly Fantasy stuff in a Fantasy game is not wrong and I would like to read a different perspective on the models.
>>96954592the one on the Royal Pegasus. The mount itself is fine, but the rider is just weird.
>>96954647>since honestly can't see why someone would think they are coolYou're a cocksucking retard then
>>96954642Earlier this year one of the biggest memes was "100 men vs 1 gorilla" and humans in Warhammer fight gorilla-sized greenskins and beastmen as a daily hazard. I think they're pretty fine.
>>96954630go outside and ask people on the street how many spanish literature works they knoweven in a spanish speaking country i'm sure more people have heard of moby dick or whatever the fuck than don quixote
>>96954499That's clearly a 40k feudal world soldier.
>>96954549Spains subliterate sudaca colonies have produced more great works of literature than the metropole.
Stupid question, but where's the best place to get an artillery dice? My screaming skull catapult didn't come with one.
>>96954442I barely ever see anyone play AOS and I have also heard from people that LGS' are switching to 50/50 Old World and AoS. Same goes for one of my local GWs
>>96954774Try eBay
>>96954774I got mine from the faction flavored dice set. There are all kinds of novelty dice manufacturers out there who you can get them from, but for me the shipping cost made it not worth it which is why I picked up the official ones. You could also check your LGS if they sell any loose dice on the cheap and happen to have any scatter and artillery dice.
>>96954774Google it you fucking zoomer retard
>>96954803Chill out you massive faggotHonestly these threads might as well not exist if you're all just gonna be ragey cunts towards anyone who asks questions
>>96954820Damn that's crazy Didn't read tho
>>96954679>go outside and ask people on the street how many spanish literature works they knowI live in a college town so it wouldn't be representative of the population>>96954763Spain colonized an entire continent, no fucking shit hundreds of millions of people will have more cultural output than fifty million.
>>96954820Dont mind him. Hes a no game/no model angry fag who trys to shit on everyone.Best way to get artillery dice is to shell out the money for any set of GW old world dice. They all come with them
>what's the best way to buy a die that you can easily sub a d6 for if you aren't retarded RetardTry asking your phone like you usually do faggot zoomer
What would you think about a Chaos player who mixes 40K and Fantasy together? Like, daemons would be the exact same, obviously, but some Chaos Warriors would have a fusion of plate armor and power armor, and the melee weapon they hold might be a chain axe or something.I really like the idea of Chaos worshippers just being shunted into either reality on the whims and convenience of their gods. Makes them feel more weird.
>>96955026Who cares what we think they're your toys
>>96953247>fireglaivesyeah, but that's what he's done in every one of his games. Usually 20, but once 24 and twice 16. They can fight, but they just die to magic too easily and shooting ironically. Two units of 10 at least let him shoot two different targets and look in two different directions.>cutthroatsYeah, I had them as 25 initially with armor, but then went to 20 with armor, but that left 5 points over still, so i dropped the armor and gave tau'ruk the vambraces. >Gitsnaw, I'd drop all the cutthroats to keep both gits. I'm willing to guarantee they would more than double the performance of the cutthroats making their cost that much better, even if I literally put them in the place the cutthroats would normally be on the battlefield.>Centaurwell, fuck if it does need a unit of renders this list is fucked.I can see why Chaos dwarves aren't doing fantastic. Their chaff units are a bit too chaffy, their elite unites are a bit too elite. Black orcs are probably the best core unit they have, but need a BOB to get. All of their special units are pretty decent, but after core and characters you run out of points. At 2000 pts, you probably get gigasmashed by the other armies cause then they also get their 0-2 per 1k units and every one of those will outperform chaos dwarfs. The train and the centaurs are their best unique thing, and both cost to much to be effective in the list.
>>96955026If it's just csm on square bases I wouldn't be thrilled but a tasteful conversion like you pitch would be pretty cool and if well done most people wouldn't mind I think
>>96955026More of an Aos thing but who cares
>>96955026hard to do well, but not impossiblethe problem is that most people who suggests this don't plan to do it well, they just plan to be cheap and lazy
>>96955114My plan is to make them indiscernible. The power armour would be more like the Renegade Chaos Marines from Rogue Trader with the Giger vibe, mixed with the spikey weird ornate armor from the Ian art back in the Realms of Chaos books.Realms of Chaos is the primary inspiration, really.My real worry is weaponry and WYSIWYG: most of them would be holding 40K weapons, or at least have them on their person, hanging from a strap or something.>>96955136||I know where to get scans of GW kits.||||I just have to wait long enough to accrue enough chaos stuff to have a whole I fire bits box to work with||
>>96955026Daemons are OK. Chaos Marines, no.
>>96955026>some Chaos Warriors would have a fusion of plate armor and power armor, and the melee weapon they hold might be a chain axe or something.Sounds like a based callback to Realms of Chaos to meBut keep it sparse I advise
>>96954621You were the same furry faggot from earlier who was complaining that I disliked the new cathay musketmen. Neck yourself britoid
>>96955528Well soon enough, the UK government will block UK access to 4chan
>>96955186WYSIWYG is a 40k thing. Don't worry about it. Just tell your opponent which weapons your unit has, hand him a copy of your list, and it'll be fine.
>>96954404Nogga Heresy isn't even bigger than ToW
>>96955920Heresy is way bigger than TOW lol
>>96955920Is that still true after HH shit itself?
>>96956005it wasnt even true when HH was in its prime in first edition
>>96955963I big time doubt that. Heresy will continue to exist as a product because it's low cost. You make one space marine kit and 95% of HH players can buy it for their armies. It's a great business model, but it can make it seem overly popular in terms of player count if you go just by sales of kits.
>>96955026Believe it or not, correct
>>96956053There are always going to regional differences but based on all the GW stores I've visited (local and abroad, across 5 different countries in total) the shelf space is what I'd measure what GW considers to be the big seller and in general the shelf space allotment goes as: 40k, AoS, HH & KT. I've seen a single TOW core book once in a GW store and it was tucked away with Underworlds. GW. You're probably right on the money with HH being a very spartan product that has a low investment cost and good returns. I think TOW is doing very well as well and that should be obvious to all with the plastic kits they are investing into it, but I'm not convinced it's on the same level of popularity as any of their other games. And I think that's also a good thing. You want TOW to sell enough that GW will continue to humor us and leave the TOW designers alone. You don't want it to become so popular that is starts catching the suits attention so much that they begin meddling with it like they are meddling with the main studio games.
>>96956410>You don't want it to become so popular that is starts catching the suits attention so much that they begin meddling with it like they are meddling with the main studio gamesYeh, they might divert all focus to a new army made specifically to pander to new market in East Asia in hopes of getting them to buy GW shit instead of making things for existing fans
>>96956446>Yeh, they might divert all focus to a new army made specifically to pander to new market in East Asia in hopes of getting them to buy GW shitUnironically for the best.
Getting started on my next batch of beastmen
>>96946881>bretonia is 1200s to early 1300s euros, greathelms and shit>Empire is late 1400s to early 1500s euros, Armets andsalets and shitis there anyone who exists in the late 1300s/early 1400s period? with houndskull helmets and shit?
I've seen people do thier own work looking like they're done in the Old World book style, what are people using to do this on?
>>96956507Best bet would be knightly orders of the empire.
>>96949628Lmao post your painted shit friend
>>96954499He's the Charmeleon of human infantry.
>>96956554those usually follow late 1400s/1500s look.maybe boarder prince? grudgebringers always had a distinct look from the 1500s hre look or bretonian high feudalism. though they were more generically fantasy/
>>96956514You mean like this >>96949208If so then it is pretty simple, I just use GIMP, with a standard old paper background, adding the image, erasing the edges with a rough erase tool. Then I add the text using the font Castlon Antique>https://www.1001fonts.com/caslon-antique-font.htmlSometimes I like to use Inquisitor font for headers and the like>https://www.dafont.com/inquisitor.fontHope this helps Anon :)
>>96956507Warhammer is strongly anachronistic, in the empire you can have anything concurrent or preceding their more archetypical look.even somewhat succeeding their historical inspirations, as long as you don't push into the 18th century, that's the hard line.
>>96956507>houndskull helmetsSome Brettonians have those in TWW, and some WFRP art
>>96956638I'd argue a Nuln focused army can get into the 1800s easy
>>96956672Theyre bordering on industrial Revolution. So I'd say they're like, mid 1800's for sure.
>>96956672>>96956700technologically they can get there, aesthetically, they absolutely shouldn't
>>96953402
>>96956751They also suffer due to beastmen, vampires, and orcs. Beastmen vastly diminish the food production and peasants, vampires gum up the political situation like motherfuckers, and orcs keep the military far too active.
>>96956638Outrider should have Napoleonic pelises.I am willing to fight over this.
>>96957065Someone is going to die on that hill
>>96956613Oh yeah that's exactly it thanks.
Not a big fan of dragons.
What minis did you paint this week?
>>96957065why that instead of 1500's style pistoliers or 1600s style cavaliers?
>>96957742>dragons are op in the rules>first new model is a (bone) dragon>first new faction is ruled by a dragon>three of the most requested new models are the iron dragon, a chaos dragon and a forest dragon>still no plastic dragonslayers
>>96956573Sweet Jesus, that is the first time I noticed their legs. Amazing these made it onto shelves.
>>96957742>Not a big fan of dragons.You droped this, king.
>>96957772Dragons are peak fantasy. Even if I don't care for them it's undeniable that people love them for a good reason.
What colour would you paint the fur on your skaven?
>>96958169poop and mud colorsmostly poop
>>96957758been slow on painting for the last few days as i've been working a lot, just been going back and basing my orc boyz
I’m working on a Samurai army for a historical game that I’m thinking I can also use for tow as Nippon and add some Japanese folk monsters and stuff. What do you reckon is better; proxy them with Cathay or the Empire lists, or try adapt the Warhammer Armies Project list to tow? The core of the army is what you’d expect from a historical; a shitload of samurai and ashigaru, and some warrior monks.
ESL here.by "the decline in the awakeningq" they mean the awakening of dragons right ?
>>96958964Yes, fewer Dragons are waking than in the past it is rather oddly worded.
>>96958958The new border prince stuff would probably be the best if you have no out there fantasy models.Speaking of that, does anyone have a full list of the units that count as dogs of war and from what books?
>>96959114Found the rules. I like them! Not exactly what I had in mind but I can probably make it work, at least until I build up a collection for Japanese fantasy minis
Would the End Times be even marginally improved if Archaon was a cute if edgy girl instead of lame and edgy man? t(this post was held nback for 120 minutes because i forgot to capthja)
>>96959270Go back to twg
>>96959284thankies man hope you have a good day
Yesterday, I attended a small tournament and played three games with my warriors of chaos and I have some stories to tell. First, as you can see, I tried something very different and very stupid with my list by bringing a 28-man unit of chaos warriors led by four infantry characters, these being a chaos lord with the sword of might, the crown of everlasting conquest, a brazen collar, a favour of the gods, and the enchanting aura, an aspiring champion battle standard bearer with the talisman of the carrion crow, a favour of the gods, the icon of darkness and the diabolic splendour gift, a sorcerer lord using the lore of battle magic with the dagger of the dark pantheon, a lore familiar, and a power scroll, and, finally, an exalted sorcerer using the lore of daemonology with the tome of the dark gods and a spell familiar. The rest of the list was fairly straightforward, with five forsaken of Slaanesh, five warhounds, five chosen knights, and a chariot. Also, the unit champion for the warriors had the taskmaster's scourge and the knight champion had a brazen collar. This list was very experimental and probably (definitely, but we'll get to that) not good at all, but it was a lot of fun and I had a wonderful time. I have some thoughts about what went right and what went wrong with this list, but I will save them for the end. Now, for some battle reports!
>>96959270You mean if everyone right?Except the Orcs, that would be weird.
My first game of the day was against the tomb kings and it got off to a fantastic start as my chosen knights lowered their lances and urged their steeds forward as they obliterated a necrosphinx in a single round of combat and proceeded to overrun into my opponent's chariots, halting his advance dead in its tracks just before he would have been able to flank the rest of my army. Despite this stellar opening, the rest of the game didn't go as planned, as my knights and my warhounds got bogged down with the chariots for the rest of the game (though it should be said that my knights did eventually win, only to get obliterated by the tomb king on a dragon), my forsaken put up a valiant effort against a bone giant, and my chariot (which is just out of frame) was playing keepaway with my opponent's snake knight things on the left side of battlefield. Meanwhile, my obscenely large regiment of chaos warriors trudged up the middle of the board as my sorcerers weaved their enchantments, granting the regiment +1 toughness from Fleshy Abundance and a 5+ ward save from Oaken Shield, as well as using Steed of Shadows and Arcane Urgency for some really devious movement tactics. Unfortunately, not even this arguably overpowered combination of spells was enough to outrun a dragon, so my regiment got charged in its flank. Miraculously, the tomb king fumbled every attack he made and my regiment actually won that first round of combat, which allowed it to reform and face the dragon head on. The rest of the game was a pretty standard tomb king game, any wounds I managed to inflict were quickly reversed by that lovely Arise! ability and even when I did win combat, the Indomitable special rule made it so that nothing actually took any extra wounds. By the end of six turns of grueling and grindy comba, the game wound up being a resounding defeat. If you're curious about the little red crosshair things, those were secondary objectives that would give whoever controlled them 30 VP each turn.
>>96959003Thk.
Game two had my warband face off against an army of high elves with a unit I had never seen before: The flamespyre phoenix! The rest of my opponent's army was fairly standard, a bunch of cavalry, some spear elves, some bow elves, and an elf character on a griffon with a horrifyingly strong bow. As you can probably see, I deployed like an absolute donkey, which made the first two turns of the game extremely slow and gave my opponent the advantage as he flanked me on two sides. However, despite this rather severe blunder, the game actually went rather well! My chosen knights destroyed his elite cavalry in a single round of combat (after my warhounds valiantly sacrificed their worthless lives for the cause, of course) and my chariot knocked down his light cavalry and ground the bones of elf and horse alike under its terrible wheels. My forsaken, for their part, served as meat shields/bullet catchers for my regiment of warriors, keeping a rather massive unit of cavalry (again, just out of frame) away while surviving the phoenix's bombing run. Though the position I found myself in was dire, my sorcerers had been concocting a rather obvious plan, and my warband's fortunes would quickly turn for the better.
In a single turn, after some very lucky casting and a succesful leadership test to activate the Taskmaster's Scourge, gaining +2 movement, 28 chaos warriors and the 4 champions of chaos who were leading them rode across the battlefield on steeds as dark as the night, only to then, with unnatural speed, reform and face a regiment of high elf spearmen! As you probably guessed, Arcane Urgency and Steed of Shadows are extremely good at getting poor generals out of the bad situations they often find themselves in. Suffice to say, my damn near 1500 points of warriors and characters demolished my opponent's spearmen and the archers that were standing a bit further back behind them while my knights and my chariot dealt with the elf prince and the rest of the lgiht cavalry. Meanwhile, the elite elven cavlary and the phoenix just sat in the corner to secure VP. Game two would end in a draw, with a difference of 13 VP in my opponent's favour.
Game three was the most fun and yet also retarded game of Fantasy I have ever played, and as such I will be talking about it a bit more than the first two. This was my first time playing against a Vampire Counts army and I was very much looking forward to it. Perhaps due to that excitement, or more likely due to me being a fool, I once again messed up my deployment. I honestly don't know what I was thinking. Why are my dogs where they are? Why are my chariot and knights at an angle? Anyway, my opponent brought a ghoul king on a terrorgheist, a unit of blood knights, a unit of black knights with a wight king leading them, a level 4 necromancer, a bunch of bats, two banshees, a varghulf, and some undead dogs (half of which were spiders). Quorthon, my sorcerer lord, picked his usual spell list consisting of Hammerhand, Fireball, Arcane Urgency. and Oaken Shield, and Rudolph, my exalted sorcerer, rolled Gathering Darkness and Daemonic Vessel, and replaced his third spell with Fleshy Abundance.
Immediately after the game started, disaster! Quorthon, the incompetent boob, bungled his attempt at casting Oaken Shield on the very first turn of the game and rolled double 1s, getting a miscast! This failure then resulted in a dimensional cascade, outright slaying 5 chaos warriors as Quorthon took a wound while Grishnakh, my chaos lord, simply withstood the blast thanks to his beautiful 5++/5+++ saves. After dusting himself off, Quorthon followed up on this absolute fiasco by miscasting again on the following turn, this time only slightly exploding his regiment and killing two warriors. Disaster! The game had barely even started and I was already down 105 points worth of models. Thankfully, at least Rudolph wasn't as much of a failure as his (alleged) superior, as he actually managed to cast a spell without blowing himself up, granting my regiment +1 toughness. Meanwhile, my dogs tried and failed to hold my opponent's ghoul king back for a turn, getting absolutely schwacked in the process and allowing said ghoul king to overrrun into my chosen knights, my chariot got yelled and proceeded to promptly explode, and my forsaken heroically held back the slavering varghulf from my warriors' flank. This state of affairs lasted for two turns, as my noble and valiant warband repelled the undead monstrosities as best they could.
Is "Sea Wardens of Cothique" not in the Mega anymore ?
Despite their best efforts, the undead had outdone the servants of the ruinous powers this day. Encircled on all sides, blasted with the death-shrieks of two banshees and a terrorgheist, there was no hope. However, surprisingly, the regiment held for two rounds of combat. Though their enchantments were easily dispelled and Quorthon just couldn't manage to cast a single spell in six turns (this in spite of his power scroll and the bonuses he was getting to cast thanks to the wounds he was inflicted in combat with the dagger of the dark pantheon), they put up a hell of a fight. Grishnakh had rolled obscenely well on the Eye of the Gods table and was striking 7 times per turn, Hilof, my BSB, was doing much the same, Quorthon was stabbing at the hordes of the dead like a man possessed, and Rudolph was managing to not die. Unfortunately, the gods were not with them this day, and, after a short time, none who yet lived stood on the battlefield. A complete loss, but what a game!
In closing, I have some thoughts on both my army and the game as a whole. First, this list was actually really fun! Having 1487 points in a single unit is almost certainly a horrible idea and it's absolutely not competitively viable, as my results have shown, but it's a real fun time. The rest of my list was fine. Some people at the event said that warhounds don't really have a place in the army anymore and I'm inclined to agree, but I painted them so I'm going to keep using them. The Dagger of the Dark Pantheon and the Taskmaster's Scourge are super fun, but the Tome of the Dark Gods is a total scam! Just bring a sorcerer with the mark of Nurgle and save 25 points! None of the other spells are actually worth taking in this scenario, you'll never get to cast Blue Fire and Acquiescence just doesn't work. Read the spell, it's crap. Fleshy Abundance, however, is amazing. Rudolph got pretty unlucky with his spells and I never got to cast Daemonic Vessel, but if the stars align you can make your warriors extremely strong for a turn. Speaking of magic, I still really don't like what TOW did to it. Also, the game has too many leadership abilities that work like spells, but aren't, and so can't be dispelled. Finally, I don't like the special objectives that are in the matched play guide. They incentivize not using your core to actually fight, which just makes herohammer more of an issue. The player who won the event was playing chaos dwarfs and brought 120+ hobgoblins for the sole purpose of sitting on objectives while the rest of his army (orc on a wyvern, 2 taurus dudes, and some skirmisher bull centaur things) fought. Then again, I don't think I get to have an opinion regarding the state of the game competitively seeing as I came in last place with a 0-3-1 and was awarded the customary (but not physical, this time at least) wooden spoon. Anyway, here's my favourite picture from the event and sorry for taking up so many posts.
>>96956666That's not a houndskull though, but a great bascinet.
>>96960185Goddammit, the salet is so fucking cool.
>>96960185>>96960284Looks like the beautiful superior Great Helm to me. Just with lots of candles and stuff on it.
>>96960185tbf, its the same period, place, and helmet type as the houndskull, just a variant type of visor.
>>96959476>>96959498absolutely sweet!
>>96959769Well I for one am happy that ypu posted up all the quality stuff you did. With great pics too! Sorry to hear you came last but I can tell you had a lot of fun and 0-3-1 isn't so bad. Well done Chaos anon and I wish you the best in your battles!
New thread doko?
>>96960494No, It's a great bascinet, which you can see by looking at the hinge on the visor and the fact that the gorget is connected to the helmet.>>96960681True it is the same period, and you could use a houndskull visor, but the helmet is a great bascinet, not a regular bascinet.
Classic Empire minis coming to MTO.This includes:Classic State Troop CommandClassic State Troops(halberds)Classic Empire HandgunnersClassic Empire ArchersClassic Empire Captains
>>96961915are these 4th and 5th edition models?
>>96961945They are, yes.
>>96961915not really into these, but if they're digging into the old empire models maybe they realise people want the old plastics as well?
>>96961915they could have just brought back the 5th ed plastic spearmen and they'd make 10x the sales of these kits in hours.
>>96961978the metal models are overpriced as hell, they will inevitably get huge gains for a very limited investment and run of metal moulds
>>96961972I could see people buying these for Morian heads and using it as DoW unit
If you got the chance to update the Empire range, what would you do differently?
>>96961990every model has huge poofy sleeves and baggy pants every model has a choice of big floppy feathered hats or intricately decorated grotesque helmetsevery model
>>96961999I think for state troops, I'd add the puffy sleeves to the upper arms, and keep legs similar but with a bit of extra puffy bits here and there. This matches the vision of them Dave Gallagher had - the one GW kinda failed to execute properly in the current kits.I'd be really specific to make all the little tiny extra gubbins around their waists totally optional, like grenades were on older marine kits.For greatswords, they'd have a tonne of puff n slash all over but lots of armour as well (like every model with a fancy hat also has an steel cap helm underneath), in addition to almost full plate, focussed on the left side).New knights, keep the same armour style for horses, just update them to scale with the pistolier/outrider kit sizewise
>>96961989Agreed, they're basically conquistadors as is, right down to the 'ruff' collars and the higher style puffy pants on some
>>96961915>>96961960>>96961960>>96961965>>96961972As someone who started with TOW these are so much better than the current ones
>>96962254They will also be really expensive as you need a shit ton of state troops for them to be effective. High unit counts of metal models is also very impractical to play with.
>>96961915Have they done units of dwarves through MTO? I know they did a bunch of characters before.
>>96961960Do you think if I cut these models at the waist with a razor saw and used plasticard to add additional height (and obviously clean up any disparity with putty) they'd scale with current plastics?
>>96962669That's a lot of a hassle for something that gets solved way more easily by a slightly taller basingYour eye will compare total heights more than they will relative heights, especially when it comes to gaming pieces, so unless the disparity is truly enormous, just give their bases tactical cobblestone or something like that.
>>96961915im baseding out over this fuck yeah>>96961972half of these nighas look distinctly estalien/tilean. not too interested in them.also i havent even recieved my fucking bretonnian mto yet…
>>96962727Nah I have an eye for detail and will pick up on that shit regardless of basing.
>>96962442I don't think so, but I know they did an mto of the old Bretonian metal men-at-arms
>>96962771Then feel free to waste time for your overstimated perception
>>96961974>>96961975>>96962669does anyone know how those 6th ed starter spearmen scale with the newer plastic state troops and the old metal state troops?heres my stir river patrol champion
>>96962780Well I’ll cope that it’s still coming then, I’d make a poor financial decision if it was.
>>96962442Along with the characters, they also did Prince Ulther's Dragon Company, but they haven't done an MTO for normal units yet.
>>96962669The dumbest post itt>>96962442They did imperial dwarves and dragon company .Sadly no good stuff like 5th ed metal hammerers.
>>96962967Imperial Dwarfs arn't even MTO. You can just buy them from the Warhammer store
>>96962967Imperial Dwarfs are permanent actually, not MTO.
>>96962798Here's some quick comparisons for you.The "new" plastics are a tiny bit chunkier, and while they are larger, they have a crouched pose making them the same height.You could for sure use both in the same army without it looking strange, maybe not in the same unit, unless you really need to.
>>96962798>>96963041
>>96963048Do you have a militia model (with halberd prefferably) to compare with current halberdiers?
>>96963151I can confirm these scale, but militia kit has large somewhat goofy hands compared to later empire kits
>>96963151No militia, sorry.
Were foot knights ever a thing in WHFB?I remember in the BOTET mod for total war medieval 2, there were empire foot knights and I remember it took most of its units directly from a specific edition.There really should be like one Bretonian Dukedom that goes a bit more england style and prefers foot knights. So there is a subfaction of humans that is more elite melee infantry focused.
>>96963369Yes, in like 5e and before
TOW related?
>>96963800Possible. Leakers say there are two more Chaos Kits on the way.
>>96963800nah, orkz
>>96963800Could be a marauder character? Otherwise it could be from many many ranges.
>>96963808there's no such 'leak'
>>96963369
>>96963813nta but have they teased 40k edition boxes in rumour engines before?
New MTO soon for old Empire
>>96964082pic because I am regarded
>>96963808
>>96964161The leaker said mammoth vs ogres box
>>96964210>ogres
>>96964090Prices? Or should i be afraid to ask?
>>96964561overpriced
>>96964210BASED BASED BASED if true
>>96961974THESE NIGGAS HAVE SHOES
>>96964688Clearly not from Stirland then.
>>96964730Yes the colour scheme is clearly Talabacland
If I want to make a Lothern high elf army what should I take aside from sea guard, merwyrm, skycutter?
>>96964859Phoenix Guard
Should I buy 32 mm or 28 mm? I figure 32 mm since all new GW minis are 32 right?
>>96964859Balista ?
>>96957759They should retain their current look, with the exception of pelisses. Why?Because it looks cool
>>96965013Not even new GW minis are scaled properly. The "heroic scale" they use is not consistent.
>>96965252They are pretty much cowboys so they also need cowboy hats.
>>96965286Its worst when you are playing dwarfs and have minis available ranging from 25mm to 32+mm sold officially by gw
Raaroo!
>>96965352
>>96964859grab some sea elementals to run as eagles and phoenixes >but they don't flyyou can imagine them breaking apart into water and forming somewhere else
shops selling the cathay battalion box for 100 now, I might pick it up, I dunno. It still feels like its gonna be a fucking chore to hobby with.
>>96965420paint only the models you want to actually paint, the rest of jade warriors can be painted like cheap terracotta soldiers supplementing the living ones
>>96965443the terracotta paintjob can also be a stage you put all models through, so the entire force is instantly painted, while you slowly pick up the models to paint one by one
>>96965494>>96965494>>96965494
>>96964090you are not just regarded you are WELL regarded.
