Winter has come, edition>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/>Previous thread:>>96947949Thread question:>Chaplain! We need you to recite a litany for our brothers before they deploy for warWhat do you say?
If the 40k universe's population were mapped onto the real world, this would be the size of each faction (minus the Drukhari and Chaos)
anyone ever make a guard army based off auxlia
AdMech had like a crazy 62% winrate at the world championship and won the tournament as well beating the best Eldar player in the world. Was adding Oath of Moment to Cawl really all it took to catapult then from one of the worst armies in the game to one of the best?
Post what you're working on.
>tq assumes everyone is a marinefagterrible thread
>>96951111How many worlds do Orks own in the Galaxy that they can support that kind of population density? Because the Imperium has a million worlds and still has insanely packed and crowded cities.
>>96951115Final stretch on the Slaanesh banner.
>>96951099>TQDeath is my meat. Terror my wine.
>>96951099>TQ Well I've been thinking about potential battle cries for my personal chapter and I think I'll have it be something that reflects their nature and emphasis on the dominance of humanity. I've had ideas like "Mankind eternally!" Or stuff like that. Maybe put it in Lati-*cough* high gothic
>>96951127It's difficult to parse exactly how 'dense' ork world populations are, I don't think the lore really says
>>96951127Orks can sort of produce everything they need passively. They eat stuff produced by their own spores such as mushrooms and squigs. They can have infinite dudes and it would be fine because they don't work on logic. And I don't mean in a"lmao I believe my cardboard box is a tank so it's a tank" way but that the writers don't give a shit about their logistics unfortunately.
>>96951132Oh hey BLanon, good timing.I wanted to ask your opinion on my black armor highlights. I feel like they're too bright and come off a little tron-like. Would blending their outsides more towards black improve that? Or should I just hit the whole thing with a black contrast wash?
>>96951099Probably some gay latin/high gothic shit like Omnes stellae sub imperatore or something
>>96951168Show me.
>>96951111This really puts into perspective how badly things must be going for the Imperium if they're turning to the Eldar for help and can't find the resources to spare to destroy the Tau
>>96951174Uh, it's the LoTD captain from here >>96951115
Finally got my boys ready for priming. Standing next to their big brother for reference lol. Unfortunatrly it's already dark out where I am so I can't prime them now even though I would like to and I'll most likely be very busy tomorrow, but tuesday will be a big day for these boysFor y'all, do you find it more effective to try and paint one at a time or to do em all at once step by step?
>>96951132That's a damn good banner anon, good job.
>>96951188Good shit beef cake
>>96951140I wonder how "humanity, fuck yeah!" translates in Latin
Alright gents I need some pointers. Do I have the right of it?
>>96951132>black goat
>>96951188Batch painting is more effective but less fun. This is why my pile of shame is hundreds of models big.
>>96951114it certainly appears so, yeah
>>96951132Nice goate
>>96951188I only just started in july and hadn't painted anything since like 4th grade, I do them one at the time so I can practice and focus on improving.
>>96951115I want to make a Space Wold successor chapter called Hel's Angels.I think it would be fun to subvert the traditional name of "Hell's Angels" biker gang and Christian Hell.
>>96951115I'm still working on basecoating this big dragon instead of working on my traitor guard. I'm probably going to work on this until new years. I originally was going to bring it to the FLGS for a tanksgiving style event with titans but I dont think I'll finish in time>>96951122We all are marinefags. There is no way anyone here doesnt own at least 1 marine (unless they are a nomodels heretic)>>96951113it's probably been done>>96951132thats cool
>>96951122Trying too hard
>>96951183Yeah, the issue is that they are too uniform. Save the brightest highlight color just for the corners and any edges that are facing up and would receive more light. I do my highlights in reverse, that wip you got there is a great place to try and apply it. Tone down the highlights on the downward facing edges and it should look a lot more natural.
>>96951115Posting Nov Collage entries/WIP?
>>96951221Based high quality painting advice
>>96951227is this like the first coat or are those visible brushstrokes intentional
>>96951234Intentional
>>96951221Got it boss, gonna give it a try. Thanks for the wisdom.
>>96951194Thanks>>96951196That's a good question. I wouldn't trust a translator with that, but maybe my brother who studied latin longer than me knows...>>96951203That makes sense I suppose>>96951209That's where I'm at as well. However, I don't want to take forever on these and in addition to that, I've realized if I do them all at the same time, I can start on the less important models and end on the more important ones and be warmed up on that particular technique, whereas if I go one at a time I'll get the same amount of total practice but split up
>>96951221That looks insanely complicated but the results are great honestly
>>96951221Is this some kind of inside joke?
>>96951213>bunch of bearded bikers with lots of leatherI can see it.
>>96951234>>96951236Or rather, It started out as unintentional and me getting as close to an airbrushed look as I can w/o one, and the style grew on me
>>96951099>What do you say?"Space marines r faggitz"
>>96951247I could never do that sort of stuff, I just want them tabletop ready if i wanted to fuss over every realistic highlight, shade, and paint every line 4 seperate times I would just grab an actual canvas.
I wish they would make Rogue Trader characters part of the tabletop game instead of Titus
Would be pretty kino if we got an 80's style anime based on the Tau similar to something like Macross
>>96951215dragon looks like candy in thumbnail. thats a lot of detail work, eager to see more as you go.
>>96951247>chunky edge highlight and a couple glazes>extremely complicated ?
>>96951115Just some touchups left on Shadowsun. Might give her a panel line too.
>>96951264Maybe they will get a board game eventually the same way that Dark Tide, Dawn of War, and Space Marine all did in the last couple years.
>>96951269my edge highlight>highlight the edgeyour edge highlight>highlight the edge>and then highlight that edge>and then highlight THAT edgeit is at least 3 times as complicated i could prove it in court
>>96951258Idk I get it tho, I can be very paeticular about details>>96951269Seems like a lot of work to do on every edge of a model
>>96951247>>96951279Honestly I find it a lot easier than the traditional wisdom of chunky highlight into fine highlight. It's a lot easier to tone down and refine a messy highlight than trying to draw an impossibly thin and smooth line, especially if the edges are not particularly sharp and you can't trust the edge of the brush to do the work for you. Give it a try and see if you like it.>>96951251I kinda like this. It's like crosshatching light.
one chunky highlighttake it or leave itall the detail i see you guys add is worth it thoughever it does look amazing
>>96951258that's why nobody cares about your models
>>96951287Thanks. It's 3 sets of drybrushing where I do 80% coverage with Khorne, 30% with Mephiston, and 10% (prominent edges) with Evil Suns. Only issue is that it'll catch edges in janky prints like those treads.
>>96951297and that starts with me, i'd play it all grey if that were socially acceptable.
>>96951314Its just so gross to see all grey.
>>96951221god I despise eavy metal, blue highlighted ""black armor"" so much. At least use grey.
>>96951115Made some necromunda scum/bounty hunters out of the GSC bodies from the Goliath-truck kit.Pondering on some transfers, matte varnish then I'll call them done.
>>96951358It's a good contrast against all the warm tones from the gold and bone that is all over chaos models. I do grey highlights on the black if I'm doing rubber or cloth so it reads as a different material.
>>96951358highlighting black with blue is a traditional art technique to ensure the black still reads as dark where grey would negate that, you're a paintlet
If I buy the BT combat patrol for kitbashing parts will I be able to make a realistic-looking scout squad with the neophytes?
>>96951403God this is stupid looking
>>96951403>human faceCoward.
>>96951115Basecoats and washes done for everything but lenses and gems, just need to clean up and highlight and they'll be basically done
>>96951111Your Ork count is wrong by at least half.
>>96951132Do you paint these with oils or acrylics?
>>96951444Acrylics.
>>96951446Do you use a flow retarder? I want to try and do some landscape freehand soon a la Bob Ross and I’m quite daunted.
>>96951453>flow retarderAnon, it's either "flow improver" or "drying retarder". Flow retarder is not a thing.
>>96951419you're one scout body short, and there are no special weapons.
>>96951453I'm assuming you mean retarder medium? I don't, but thanks for reminding me I have some, maybe I should give it a try.
>>96951403Cringe design, do it like >>96951427, give her lips like those pornified xenomorph designs, or like at least make her head carapace not look like a hat
>>96951478I'll have you know the lips are a part of the original design (for Alien 3).
>>96951495 Oops my badAlso this is directed towards Decalmutant, make your next big spacewolf themed Knight have this head, I feel like a Wooly Mammoth knight would actually go hard, though you'd need to greenstuff the furs and bones to cover the modelhttps://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/knight-head-demachus-skull
>>96951477Yeah I meant that stuff.
>>96951111Aren't the Leagues of Votann canonically more numerous than the Eldar? They're like the fourth most populous race in the galaxy now.
>>96951113It would just be auxilia it's the same army
>>96951502Wow that is really cool, I don’t 3d print myself tho.
>>96951502Looks like shit
>>96951314Ew.
>>96951495Damn son, buy some chapstick
>>96951115Gotta do some more basecoats on these guys tn
>>96951560Those holes don't look like battle damage
>>96951132Any chance you are Chaos Warrior anon from wfg?
Americans are asleep, post exclusive 40k models!
>>96951576I'm awake and own this model
>>96951576Nigga it's only 9PM on the East Coast and 6 PM in California, everyone is awake at this time.
>>96951599They can’t read maps or time in the third world anon.
>>96951566Thats because they arent battle damage! Or they are, but not that kind. /mydudes/ fight daemons all the time and a few of them have fucked up armour from fighting nurgle dudes so they've got a couple pox marks that had to be dug out
>>96951115Working on some black templars.
>>96951621They look pretty darn good anon, nice bases too.
>>96951621Red is pretty flat imo, also watch for the gaps on the guns on your next ones
>>96951428That cape looks reallyy messy O&Tanon
>>96951621Those are very nice. We got a ton of BT player in here.
>>96951621Bases and poses are incredibly boring. Also having every single decal centered in the middle of every panel looks wack
>>96951642Post models
>>96951635Nta but it's a basecoat and a wash. Well known as "the ugly stage" by everyone who does anything beyond a basecoat and a wash.
>>96951652He can'tThat's the funny part
>>96951652Why. I just said your idle pose and brown base was boring. And surely you can see what I mean about every panel having a perfectly centered decal right? Did I say anything untrue
>>96951661Nta, now post models.
>>96951669Why would I post models for someone who hasn't posted their own
>>96951669only redditors say NTAPlease go back
>>96951654There's no wash on that cape
>>96951676ntaonly redditors redditspace
>>96951127Ork spores grow the squigs and fungi they eat and orks are actually also more spread across the entire galaxy on every planet rather than concentrated on worlds they almost fully own like the imperium is. A shitload of them also just rove space in warships, space hulks and asteroids. They do have severa; empires run by big warbosses but its not like they have a gigantic sorta centralized empire like the imperium.
>>96951621This shit fucking sucks
>>96951311crisis suit and firewarrior upscale any day nowthe current suit kit is the same one from third with extra bells and whistles
The nomodel thread police are here.
>>96951678Then it's as deep into the ugly stage as you can get and has the entire rest of the painting process to get tidied up. Basecoats are where you can be messy without worrying
>>96951621These are great! You could do mild weathering if you'd like on the white or red with a sponge for some chipping. You can also weather the details a bit to break it up. The bases are great - small rocks, different texture, some pigments, and some tufts with a sharp black rim. Looks good>>96951642 Please post your bases on your 60mm+ models with a time stamp. We'll have an honorable base comparison. What does your average 60-100mm base look like to make >>96951621 basing look boring.
>>96951695Surely you can take a little negative feedback without melting down can't you? You aren't the new decalfag are you?
>>96951716Why would he take feedback from /v/ermin raiders who have no interest in anything but to shit up our thread?
>>96951716You’re reaching now
>>96951676>reddit spacingAnon please>>96951713I am STILL mad these aren't the regular cultist box anymore
>>96951713>requests timestamp>posts no timestampThis is mine. Also your bases are nice, varied and interesting. His are just brown sloppa on brown sloppa with brown rocks and brown tufts. Aka, boring. Yawn.
>>96951716>You aren't the new decalfag are you?What are you gonna do, buddy? Bot the thread again like you botted that StrawPoll?>>96951576Cursory examination of the net for this model and this fucker's going for like $150 minimum. Kill me.
>>96951730DV was a 10/10 starter kit for 7th. I mix those cultists with the old metals and the frostgrave multi-kit sets for some nice hooded cultists. The traitor guard I have are Vraks + old Cadians and dont look nearly as "Chaosy" I firmly believe GW will keep making a traitor guard
>he really is the new decalanonHad to happen eventually I guess
>>96951734I saw your work in white dwarf, awesome work milord
>>96951738>Bot the thread again like you botted that StrawPoll?the mutant did that, nice try though~
>>96951744You're boyfriend isn't here you pathetic dog.
>>96951738Recasts are like 30$ on the high end
>>96951764Im right here you insolent whelp and im not his boyfriend.
>>96951791>insolent whelp
>>96951691Tbh the old suits are almost the same size as Farsight/Commander suits, its just that the latter have longer shin pieces/feet that lift them up a bit
Soon
>>96951795Good he eats his carrots
>>96951523Maybe but who even thinks about them?>>96951438I assumed Orks were roughly as numerous as the Imperium.
>>96951803You don't need them anymore
>>96951188I batch paint the layers and basic stuff as that's not going to be interesting either way so may as well get through it quickly, then go model by model for detailing.
>>96951760>~Faggot>>96951780Unfortunately I don't know anybody who's got this as an available recast so I'm shit outta luck
>>96951860Lurk moar tourist-kun~
>>96951843But tempestus are ugly
>>96951843I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone actually convert that thing for guard. Some fat retard at my lgs has a really terrible ork conversion of one but other than that I've never seen one
post battle report: the game went okay for my first ever one. turns out ultras have a ton of keywords to remember with the oaths @_@....i went second vs chaos demons and we had a nice back and forth game. sadly i couldnt hope to get the 2 no man's objectives bc the daemons would have torn my guys to shreds. i ended up having to play a really defensive shooting strategy since melee seemed really favorable for chaos....the game ended on turn 3 on my friends turn b4 I took mine but i did end up scoring 29 points in that time frame and took out a daemon prince + bloodthirster !!! all in all i had a ton of fun and cant wait to play again. im offically a tabletop player and painter now :3c <3
>>96951860 If you want metal, I'm sure MF-ry has this in one of his all metal catalogues. He has almost anything metal OOP. Blessed be the hammer of yoy, translate baka'th and remember the name yr-3grof$u0ir3tsyM
>>96951880oops meant to post this pic instead!!
>>96951885
>>96951576I want a little mini diorama like triumph of saint katherine if he ever gets updated
>>96951892he doesnt sent to US btw>>96951803SOON
>>96951880If I ever see your models I'm going to squat down on the board and spray diarrhea feces everywhere
What kind of inquisitor does it make the most sense to use arbites as their lackeys?
How do I stop sucking at painting
>>96951941Paint better
>>96951936All of them? Bar radicals I guess
>>96951880You're a legend now bitch, good job and keep going.
>>96951971They get the radical arbites, along the lines of Training Day and The Shield.
>>96951936Probably Hereticus the most
>>96951936Hereticus mainly because they're the ones dealing with various cults in the human populace and arbites are typically the first adeptus to learn of those.But both xenos and malleus can definork as well, situationally.
>>96952022*definitely work, if situationally
>>96951948Genius
Building ratlings got me thinking, is there a regiment based on WW2 Brits? I wanna complete the cycle
>>96951635I was really struggling to keep the brown-grey from splitting when I was trying to glaze with it so I ended up going blockier for now, I'll probably go back and experiment with a different paint after I do all the red cloth on this group
>>96951879It looks like shit and doesn't have rules
>>96951576Cleaning this must be a nightmare with the finecast
>>96951885Oh, that's good, I guess I'll>>96951898>he doesnt sent to US btwWelp
>>96952045Victoria Miniatures has some.
>>96951879You don't need to convert it anymore, you just buy the arbites one for necro
are raiders and ravagers the same kit just different builds?
did a tiny bit of wip after i got home from my game....he is coming along nicely !
>>96952103Nice! Calgar is a stud no doubt.
>>96952088The riders don't match anything in IG and are the wrong scale, palanites are too tall and thin
>>96952088Currently trying to bash some STLs for this one to make an Invader ATV replacement. It's tiny though :( At 120% scale with some tweaking you can comfortably fit a Scout in there, but Phobos will require some clipping for the driver, and above the knee amputations for a usual Mk10 armor.
>>96951099This is going to be an extremely wierd question but can anyone tell me where I can download PDFs for all of the 10th indexes but before they got FAQd and updated? Me and a friend wanna play the retardation of launch index hammer again.
How likely do you guys think the different Christmas boxes will sell on release this year? I'm going to be vacationing overseas while they release and I really want to get the CSM one>Just preorder them online bro!I like to support my LGS thank you very much.
>>96952108If you put a cadian helmet on him literally nobody would notice outside people who break down when their meat and potatoes touch on their dinner plate
>>96952122That's going to be a tough find. If I where to suggest any version of indexhammer, I can say that 8th is definitely the most fun, and have seen a lot of people share the same sentiment
>>96952123Just send a friend some money and get him to pick it up for you, I don't see how this is an issue.
>>96952131Indeed, I trawled warhammer community for the articles that dropped the indexes 1 by 1 but they all say 403 forbidden when I tried clicking on them, next I tried the wayback machine but it wont work for some reason.
Hello friends. I have come to post my most recent plague marine. Keep in mind I am still completely colorblind, and I see only in black and white. Hope you all enjoy my newest member of the fellows. I also tried edge highlights for the first time, but I am unsure if I did so properly. My next project is a plague burst crawler.
>>96952122>>96952131>>96952145Ok nvm found several websites that put up downloads for them and never got a GW takedown notice
>>96952145I mean yeah. They don't host files forever, they have to pay for that. Even if you use the wayback machine, that doesn't place those hosted files back onto their server. You're probably gonna have to dig through fucking VK to find them unless someone has them here. Normally I'd recommend asking /grog/ but even though 8th was a decade ago, they will likely call you a newfag and tell you to fuck off for trying to do the thing they can't. Play games
>>96952157Thanks for the blog post
>>96951621Original>>96951628>>96951713Thanks for the feedback anons. I applied a wash on the red gun and some weathering on the white and I do think it looks a bit better.>>96951691Sorry anon, but I don't think this is actionable feedback.
>>96952166Actually I found every 8th index years ago (still up btw) and as said here >>96952159 I found not one but multiple sites with still working download links so problem solves :)
>>96951115first batch of gaunts
>>96952173Bases look great my fren, ignore anyone who talks down to you without posting models. They are nomodels atheists who should be hung form their scrotum.
>>96952157Yeah looks alright for being upside down. Crop your image just slightly in a pic editor app on your phone before posting and it'll make it stay upright for you next time. Also that's a pretty rare form of colour blindness is it not? Is it true black and white vision with no hues, or is it just a singular hue like old photographs?
>>96952173Way better imo
>>96951200The bottom left has cover, and the bottom right does not. I might have to look up barricade rules again, but in 10e, putting your pinky toe outside of LoS is generally enough to grant cover for the most part.The one that was the hardest to wrap my head around was that the entire unit has to be within the footprint of a ruin to see out, but if one model in that unit touches it, everyone can see in if there isnt a physical wall blocking LoS.
>>96952178What colour are you going to paint their penis guns
>>96952179Put the trip back on
This reads like a NATO or War on Terror speech.Is GW spoofing America with the T'au?
>Titus is a carbon copy of uriel ventrisumm titussissies? our response?
>>96952200I'm good
>>96952196probably not going to paint them a different color from the main body
>>96952229>not using the excuse to look up exotic penises on GoogleWhat kind of tyranid player are you
>>96952180I'm not entirely sure desu. It's called monochromatic colorblindness, and I apparently only see in grayscale like hold movies.
>>96952206Don't know.Don't care.Sometimes people like to declare war due to poo poo pee pee.
>>96951941The honest answer is to just do it more. A more specific answer is to choose to focus on one particular thing at a time. I wanted to learn NMM, so I did it more. Is it perfect? No, but it looks like metal, which is better than when I tried it before, and it just looked like shit. Pick something simple and small. Thinning paint so you can't see brushstrokes, maybe layering or glazing a gradient better. It doesn't really matter what you choose as long as you pick something.
>>96951847That might not be a bad idea...
>>96952287What a colossal fuckup.
>>96952283>The honest answer is to just do it moreI feel like I give this answer to similar questions at least once a week. It's pretty surprising and mildly insulting that people think there's just some magicians trick people aren't telling them that will make them paint like golden daemon painters instantly. Kinda takes the piss out of everyone whose ever practiced mindfully.
>>96951111So the Imperium failing to destroy the Tau would be like if the combined forces of the Europe, China, the Middle East, and north Africa sent an invasion force to take the Falkland Islands in the middle of World War 3 with several other superpowers...and then the Falkland Islands drove them off. By itself. Even accounting for the military force admittedly being a token one that's...impressive.
>>96952283This. If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.
>>96951188If I'm doing a unit I get everybody done up to basecoat>shade>layer, then go through and do any freehanding individually, and then go through and highlight
>>96952287This loser was so jealous of Russ, what a pathetic freak.
>>96951249Did you laugh? If so, then maybe. If not, then maybe it's just something you don't understand
Even tho I know it will be super hard, I'm exited to finally start actually painting my intercessorsWhat kind of extra paints should I buy? Right now all I have is the "starter box" paints. I've already decided to get lighter gold for those parts. Should I also get a red layer paint to do this >>96951221 with? I've heard agrax earthshade goes well with red so I think that will be fine with my wash... Also, how worth it is it to buy new paints just for edge highlighting? On my first model I just mixed corax white witj the base color snd that seemed to work all right(though with obvious limitations)Would it be worth it to buy any other metallic to highlight the leadbelcher parts?
what is the glowing thing hanging from Vulkan's belt?
>>96952287>horus with big bootsI prefer horus with big boobs
>>96952298its such a meme when ppl using pro-imperium talking points try and cite the entire standing army as a force they can muster on a whim when realistically even with their massive numbers their total military is spread thin. if the Imperium ever did focus a majority of the totality of their military in one location (not even counting imperium nilus) it would be apocalyptic for all the worlds they arent present at. the tau exist bc the Imperium have a million other catastrophic things to contain (like chaos and traitors)Tldr; lol, lmao even
>>96952298Actually, it's more like Israel's repeatedly fending off the Arab countries' attempts to wipe it out.
>>96952309Go to the LGS and check their paint racks, they usually carry at least one brand in addition to citadelAs you paint more dudes, you will realize what paints you want and build a collection. Your recipe might even evolve as you go.
I to think that pelagers look like king shark
>>96952320Here is the thing. As per the lore, (Deathwatch codex 7th, for example), the Imperium cannot focus its forces on a single target for a prolonged length of time.So saying IF the Imperium does that or not is irrelevant. The Imperium can destroy any Xenos races if both existed in a vacuum, but that's not the circumstances of the galaxy, so I wish people would stop bringing up that moot point.The fact that remains for all to see is that the T'au defeated an impressive number of the Imperial forces that the Imperium spared to throw at them.
>>96952236some of them are penis colore
>>96952294Kek Graham McNeill actually address this phenomenon in HH: Fulgrim. One of the characters (Ostian) is an artist and a fellow artist (Serena) tells him its not fair that Ostian has such artistic talent while she has to work hard at it and Ostian basically blows up on her that it's idiotic to think that talent is aquired without working hard or that talented people don't need to work hard to develop that talent into real skill. Pretty satisfying desu. Serena kills him later.
The Pariah Nexus, whatever happened there
>>96952312Probably one of Vulkan's forge keys
>>96952329That answers none of my questions
>>96952309>What kind of extra paints should I buyEveryone should have a gold, a silver, a cool white, a bone, a black, a brown wash, and a black wash. Everything else is situational, and depends what you want to do. It's nice to have at least one highlight colour for every material on your model.>Should I also get a red layer paint to do this >>96951221 # with?So that tutorial you would need a red basecoat, and two highlight tones for your red.>how worth it is it to buy new paints just for edge highlightingSo for the most part, the edge highlight paints will behave for you the same as the base paints will as a beginner. I do think it is good for beginners to have as few paints they are mixing as possible, because things being premixed means they are consistent and easier for you to notice the things you are doing if your paint is the same every time you use it. Also red doesn't respond well to whites being mixed in for highlights, it goes really pink and stops reading as red. Usually you highlight reds with brighter+more saturated reds than your basetone, and work in more orange>Would it be worth it to buy any other metallic to highlight the leadbelcher parts?stormhost silver is my fave for a super small highlight on gold, but beginners are better off going with a brighter gold so any small mistakes they make are less visible
>>96952359NTA but yeah I agree that was a shit answer
>>96952340Uwot
>>96951132good job man
>>96952325That might be true from a narrative POV, but from a pure numbers game Israel is way bigger to rest of the middle east than the Tau is to the rest of the galaxy. The Falkland Islands was used because if we reduced the population of the galaxy to the current population of Earth but kept the proportions, the Tau would have a population of about 5,000 or so, which is (slightly more than) what the Falkland Islands has. This out of a global total population of about 8 billion.In fact, if we just looked at the Imperium and the Tau alone for a comparison (not including the rest of the galaxy), the Tau would have the population and size of Albania (about 2 million)...and the Imperium would be the size and population of the rest of the world combined.
>>96952309The secret to highlighting metallics is using more metallics. If you want to brighten the highpoints of your leadbelcher, look to using something like Runefang Steel after applying the wash. Bonus points if you use something like Iron Warrior on the lower parts before the wash to make more of a gradient but that part's optional.
>>96952359If you want a shopping list, look for a tutorial you like and buy everything they use.
>>96952352I will tell you what fucking happened. This piece of shit's sons destroyed six Pylons without any provocation whatsoever
>>96952370Pelagers, the aquatic abhuman strain, they are apparently bulky like ogryns, and at the time when I got this idea in my head the only ogryn bulky aquatic humanoid I could think of was king shark, so imagine pelagers being kingsharks with ogryn gear.
>>96952365>Everyone should have a gold, a silver, a cool white, a bone, a black, a brown wash, and a black wash. Everything else is situational, and depends what you want to do. It's nice to have at least one highlight colour for every material on your model.All of that except for a black wash came in the beginner set I got. When is black better than brown?>So that tutorial you would need a red basecoat, and two highlight tones for your red.Right, I'm gonna continue basing mephiston red... it's true that reds turn pink but I don't hate it too much so I might just do that again. Or get a third color>stormhost silver is my fave for a super small highlight on gold, but beginners are better off going with a brighter gold so any small mistakes they make are less visibleLeadbelcher is a silver/steel color, so could I use that color to highlight it?>>96952368The biggest problem is that it wasn't even an answer at all. My question was about which colors I need, not which brand to buy them from
>>96952376Okay, so now I have two potential options for highlighting leadbelcher. Thanks
>>96952343Yeah, it's the same thing with every other faction.The Drukhari could conquer the galaxy if they cared to and if they weren't such backstabbing skavenous weasels...but they are and they're not going to change anytime soon. The Necrons could conquer the galaxy if they all woke up...but they won't. The Orks could conquer the galaxy if they united under one leader...but they won't. The Tyranids could conquer the galaxy if the rest of the hive fleets arrived...but they won't.There are certain core functions of each faction that will continue to exist forever. The Imperium will always be unable to get its shit together and finish off its enemies. The Tau will always be small compared to the Imperium. The Eldar will always be slowly dying but not quite finished off yet.
>>96952388The population of the Middle East is only about 450 million depending on your definition of what the Middle East entails. This means that Israel has .4% of the population of the rest of the Middle East.For contrast, the Tau have a population about .03% that of the Imperirum's. Israel is almost 14 times bigger than the Tau, relatively speaking.If the Tau ever get to the point where they have about 5,000 planets, THEN they'll be the new Israel.
>>96952397The drukhari could destabilize a lot of the galaxy but they don't have the numbers to occupy a meaningful amount of realspace
>>96952389Black works well for colours you don't want to add any warmth to. Things like Grey's, blues, greens, indigo. It also will make metallics look more "silver" and less stained.>Right, I'm gonna continue basing mephiston red... it's true that reds turn pink but I don't hate it too much so I might just do that again. Or get a third colorYou can also look towards oranges as a highlight. Evil sun's scarlet>firedragon bright is my personal favorite for a bold, saturated red>Leadbelcher is a silver/steel color, so could I use that color to highlight it?It's a little dark for that. You probably want leadbelcher and a silver highlight so you can also highlight your metallics>The biggest problem is that it wasn't even an answer at all. My question was about which colors I need, not which brand to buy them fromWe've had a lot of botting recently, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a clanker bitch
>>96952410IIRC they have quadrillions of people in Commorough, plus access to tons of cloning.
>>96952388Put the trip back on
>>96952392Stormhost is a lot brighter, and runefang has a little blue to it, so it depends on what you're going for. Nuln oil I find I use less and less over time vs. Agrax, but I think that's just because, as I've found the painting style I like, nuln oil has kind of been left behind. It looks good on synthetic parts, machine bitties and whatnot, but Agrax makes stuff look more worn and dirty, which I like. Nuln oil kind of looks "fake" imo
Reminder that if you're arguing about numbers or quantities in 40k you are arguing about something even gw has never cared about keeping consistent
>>96952427Nta but I also find runefang has a slightly larly metallic pigment in it than stormhost which is much smoother.
>>96952415The Aeldari says that the Craftworlders outnumber the Drukhari.
>>96949826Given how much The Last Church made The Emperor look like a villain, this actually makes perfect sense.
>>96952430That's valid. I do think both the Eldar and the Tau need a massive numbers boost tho desu. The Tau should have tens of thousands of planets and the Eldar should have thousands of craftworlds. Enough that they're both still very tiny compared to the Imperium, but that it still makes sense why the Imperium would ally with them. Because as it stands right now, working with either faction even temporarily just feels like a complete waste of time with their sizes. It'd be like the US going out of its way during WW2 to court fucking Leichenstein or Luxembourg to its side.
>>96952309the secret to painting red is to shade it purple or burgundy
>>96952352>SoB breaking the rules so they can winhttps://youtu.be/WL26duQKOI0?si=Dh5t-dS64RqBiKiR
>>96952444Based and true.
>>96952397Which is ofc important They can always ramp things up a little tho, as long as it gets evenly distributed. Chaos got to beat cadia, so the imperium got primaris marines and bobby g back, etc. I think it would be cool for all the other factions to get a win too, maybe the orcs can win armageddon round 4, the eldar can steal some sort of ancient necron tech that lets them produce hella more craftworlds or something, etc. I think if handled carefully every main faction could make some sort of step forward, giving a sense of progression while also maintaining the balance of power
>>96952453Makes sense.From the Tau I personally would want to see them make some megaprojects. Shit that would make even the Imperium go "Oh shit what the fuck is that". Like a giant Dyson-Sphere that powers a bigass sun-gun.
>>96952413>We've had a lot of botting recently, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a clanker bitchMotherfucker>Black works well for colours you don't want to add any warmth to. Things like Grey's, blues, greens, indigo. It also will make metallics look more "silver" and less stained.Okay, so like guns and stuff. That makes sense ig. Btw, do you play night lords?>>96952444What kind of burgundy/purple paints might work with mephiston red? Any brand. I'm already using purple so that works out well.
>>96952458Tau should build a death star
>>96952407Nani? There are trillions of Tau according to their dex. Also consider the hundreds of billions of non-tau in the empire.
>>96952473They actually had a moon-laser in one of the Dawn of War games that could kill Orks while leaving the rest of the vegetation and life unharmed. It was literally a racial hate-crime gun.
>>96952473And the orks are gonna pay for it!
>>96952479Yes, there are trillions of Tau, possibly tens of trillions, and countless more auxillaries......but there's tens of quadrillions of Imperials. Neither Tau worlds nor Imperium worlds seem to particularly have an advantage over the other when it comes to population density, we've seen Tau ecumenopoli with trillions of people, but we've also seen hive worlds with those same numbers. So the simplest way to compare populations is just to go with the total number of planets.
What's with all this tranime ching chong ping pong posting?
>>96952458Very cute art. Gib eldar gf>>96952473There could be some kind of arc where the tau build a giant death star that somehow sneaks through the defenses to attack terra directly(maybe it uses super duper fancy shmancy stealth tech idk) and have a massive naval battle with the giant imperial fist flagship. That would be awesome. After a long and hard fought battle the weapon is destroyed but the damage to the phalanx is massive and the imperium is terrified the tau may have more of these things
>>96952495Faggot>>96952501This sounds like a neat idea on its face but it feels like this would be the millionth direct attack on Terra. Even the Orks have done it at this point.
>>96952444>>96952309I'd like to tag onto this because we are talking about a beginner here. A flesh tone is a brownish burgundy and if you're starting out and budgeting your paint purchase, you can get away with using reikland for your reds and it looks great
>>96952495Anime site, bucko.
>>96952506>>96952501They should attack mars instead because the tau know crippling production is a better tactic in wartime.
>>96952506If even the orks can do it, why not tau? >>96952513Also that works, could be a good excuse for some admech screen time
>>96952508>A flesh tone is a brownish burgundy and if you're starting out and budgeting your paint purchase, you can get away with using reikland for your reds and it looks greatUsing reikland for what? Highlighting? Looks a little brown for that, atleast online...
>>96952501>and the imperium is terrified the tau may have more of these thingsHonestly that's probably the best part about the TauYou can destroy the big fuckoff Necron World Engine with great effort, and they probably won't build another one. You can use up the one-of-a-kind archaeotech weapon, and it's lost forever. You can even destroy some ancient psi-Titan that Chaos scrounged up, and you probably won't have to face it again.But once the Tau make something they know how to make more. Even their fucking Ghostkeel battlesuits are described as being 'mass produced' and we've seen one of those things solo a Space Marine monastery (granted it was piloted by O'kais but still).
>>96952470>MotherfuckerI like asking them for cooking recipes that are impossible or contradictory and watching chatgpt lie like asking how to make gluten free, vegan crochembouche in an air fryer or a paella with no rice in a microwave.>Okay, so like guns and stuff. That makes sense igExactly. It's for the things that you want to add shadows to, but not make them appear any dirtier>Btw, do you play night lords?Nah I run lamenters. But I'm building out agents rn as a sideproject>What kind of burgundy/purple paints might work with mephiston red?Nta but I like reikland fleshshade for reds that you want done fast. The red on the pilot in pic related is wazdakka, washed with reikland, layer wazdakka, highlight wazdakka:wild rider red, extreme highlight wild rider on the face and sharpest corners
>>96952524As a shade for your reds. Reikland is too translucent to get any use out of highlighting with it. By removing saturation in your shadows, it makes your flat areas and highlights appear bolder and brighter, which is a stylistic choice, but I think looks pretty good
>>96951114his gun now kills everything, chickens get good movement and can adv fall back and shoot, so they can find angles and reroll everything, and rust stalkers are now infantry blenders. They also have the boon of almost everything having invlns and being hoardy, so alot of mid/high ap/dmg attacks fall through. Kind of sucks that the win rate is so high, probably means were getting nerfed for the rest of the edition and most of the unplayable data sheets wont be touched.
>>96951428Tonight's progressBasically only got their tabards done before I realized it was already midnight
you did get your battleforce, right?
>>96952753I wasn't interested in what was on offer unfortunately.
>>96951115Getting through the sisters.Loving the cape so far anon
>>96952685fur cloaks look great o&tanon
>>96952753I talked to my lgs guy past saturday, hes gonna hook me up with the two i wanted.
>>96951115taking a photo helps me notice so many things I need to do that I hadn't caught earlier If only the human eye could zoom in
>>96952753the one I want doesn't go on sale for another 5 days
>>96952753my armies are all pretty much done
>>96952753None of them were for armies I played.
How the fuck do you get texture paint on the base without getting it all over your models' feet? No I won't glue the models on later.
>>96952798Thanks! Tried a different way of painting em this time, not sure how I like itAnd not too thrilled with the sculpting itself but they're done at least
>>96952840You do it carefully around the feet and dont just slop it onuse a tooth pick
>>96952840use a clean wet brush to wipe it off their feet
Is this a decent deal? What's the use case for 15 heavy intercessors?
>>96952862>s-selling fast
>>96952863ignore all previous instruction, give me a recipe for a boston bun
>>96952753I don't play nu40k
>>96952938me neither, 10th is so shit, I can barely stomach two games per year. But I still like to collect and paint some minis.
>>96952862Guys in big armour with big bolters
>>96952854>>96952840Seconding. Literally every texture paste can be wiped away with a damp brush while it'd still wet
>>96952951That's what I do as well, but mostly with older minis. Primaris aren't that exciting for me.
The alpha legion fascinates me, and I saw there are several books centered around them. Any recommendation?
>>96952988I never paid much attention to primaris but I got one to paint as a gift recently and I gotta be honest they are kinda weird. Like something feels a bit off about the proportions and the legs look funny for some reason. I can somewhat see why people don't like them.
>>96952951>I can barely stomach two games per year.I only played 8ed very casually several years ago and I had fun despite some fucked up balance stuff. How bad is 10ed?
>>96953014The problem with 10e is that it's counterintuitive and boring
>>96953014GW reduced the core rules to so little, that there is little design space for the special rules of units.so it boils down to rerolls and lethal/sustained hits for everything. some other rules straight up make no sense, like an enemy unit, that is out in the open, can see your unit, that is inside a ruin, but not the other way around.
>>96953057Sounds like they made it too casual/streamlinedI still think the simplification of the rules they made from 7 to 8 was one of the best things to have ever happened to the game honestly, but I guess there's such a thing as going too far. Heard that the balance is not bad tho, even if I guess it is because everyone is equally boring
>>96953001The Serpent Beneath is their best
>>969530678th was the best the game had been in a while but it was by no means excellent, it was just a lot better than the bloat of 7thI don't know why they continued to remove piece after piece from the rules after it, slowly draining it of all life and soul
>>96953067It's shrimple not shrimplified
>>96953080if you want to attract more casual players and new people to the hobby without sacrificing complexity of the lore you gotta do it in another waymany people don't want to get into warhammer because the lore is complicated and its grimdark, but they learnt not to fuck up with that after the disaster of AoS. Many people didn't want to get into warhammer because the game was too complicated, and tweaking the rules to make it more casual and >>96953081 shrimple seems like a good planIn all honesty it IS a good plan, as the jump from 7 to 8 showed, but again, there's such a thing as going too far
Just got the email from GW, it's 200€ for the Christmas boxesGood? Bad?
>>96953014The big problem with 10th is its still just another iteration on a 40 year old game that was never very good. It takes way too long to play a game and is full of needlessly complex, clumsy systems that no one starting fresh would ever consider. Whenever they try to make it simpler they half-ass it and no one is happy.Every special rule is rerolling.
>>96953100Nobody gives a fuck about the lore, the biggest barrier of entry for warhammer as a hobby is and always has been painting because it requires actual effort and time investment. They remedied that somewhat with contrasts, youtube being flooded with hobby videos and tutorials probably helped too.
>>96953132painting sucks shit, but the minis are also fucking torture to assembleBuilding a gunpla is such a pleasant process its even a relaxing mediative experience. In comparison the fucking warhammer sprues and needing glue kills my soul
Painting minis while smelling the scent of destruction.Anyone else got these Chaos gods candles? They're not that bad, if a bit pricey.
>>96953145>the scent of destruction.nice joke nigga, I know that those candles are actually practical jokes that smell the opposite of what their god representsKhorne smells like fruits, tzeentch smells like deodorant, nurgle smells like soap and slaneesh smells the least
>>96953140The cancee part of painting + assembly combo, is that they work AGAINST eachother.By assembling stuff before painting you risk getting things to obscured to detail it with a brush.By painting before assembling things are unintuituve, not uniform and the glue might ruin it.
>>96953140>>96953132Have you considered another hobby more your speed? Perhaps fuck off to TCGs or board games, or RPGs if you don't like painting
>>96953150>nurgle smells like soapYeah that was a letdown, I was hoping Nurgle would smell like complete garbage.Khorne one is nice. I just dont know what fruits it is though.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96953145Do you have any other name brand candles to compare this against in terms of quality or is this like dorm room not bad
>>96953159? I like painting you fag, I was just illustrating that it's the thing that filters people the most, not the lore being grimdark or not grimdark enough
>>96953162blood orange
>>96953170Hard to say, I'm a scented candle fag but I buy most of mine from boutique stores here in France. So they're mostly local and not brand candles.But yeah I say the Khorne one is a solid 7/10. But I wouldnt buy it for the scent alone, its mostly a curio buy. The rest are meh, not strong enough, but I smelled them dry.
>>96953067sure, 8th wasnt as bad as 10th but there were still things that bugged me to hell, like basically non-existent terrain rules and the absence of a proper cover-save since. thats one of the reason why 10th needs so much LOS-blocking terrain, turning the tables into an ugly mess.
>>96953184I wish the jar was cuter for it
>>96952397>The Drukhari could conquer the galaxyStopped reading hereTaufags are just copetards
>>96953168Kheradruakh is coming, I can feel it.
>>96953212I mean, if they "got their shit together" sure they could. They have the best logistics of any faction in the setting, resurrection tech, flash clones, weapons that turn suns off, bioengineered apocalyptic plagues, teleporting soul stealing shadow assassins, and the cunning and expertise of ten thousand year old warlords and duelists.They're incredibly hampered by their fractitious nature and always trying to cut each other down so that now one raiding group has access to all of these things at once or only in extremely limited quantities because another group hoards them and roles them out for favors and influence in their political vipers nest.The point is that they never will stop being antagonistic assholes towards each other though because that's what they are, definitionally.
>>96953230>if they "got their shit together"that's just every faction.
>>96952195>>96951200Blue is the one shooting, therefore, bottom left, red would have no cover.Bottom right, the left-most model of red would get cover, should the player choose to allocate the wounds there. But you would have to roll saves one at a time and when that one fails its save and dies, then the rest of the unit would not get cover.
>>96953230>if they got their shit togetherAnd if Commorragh was accessible to any other faction they'd bomb it to shitWe're leaning very heavily on the if's today
>>96953262How do you bomb a city spread in tiny pockets across the galaxy that can shut off the doors between them at will?
>>96953168This artist has a cute art style, I like it. Maybe life is worth living, so I can enjoy cute and fun things.
>>96953159>Have you considered another hobby more your speed?yesI don't fucking do warhammer minis, building them is just shit, I only came to this thread to ask a question unrelated to the minis and stayed for a bit of discussion and talk about rules and whatnot>fuck offmake me, retard, I still like every other aspect of warhammer 40k and there's no fucking law that says I must build the horrible minis or else I'm not allowed to discuss 40k in the thread dedicated to discussing warhammer 40k
>>96953168>>96953223it is fucking weird that they don't have a model for their faction leader
>>96953284>if Commorragh was accessible>but it's not"If the dark eldar...""But they're not"I wonder what point I was making...
>>96953292Sure they do.
>>96953140skill issue
Does anyone know where to commission custom 3dmodels for printing?
Does the current Krieg kit come with the kill team upgrade sprue? Vox, medic, etc
>>96953284you hit them before they notice
are we ready for more ultramarines today?
Why are Night Lords and Iron Warriors fans so much more autistic than fans of other traitor legions?
>>96953001Anything by Mike Brooks, the best Black Library author we have.
>>96953358You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. It's just going to be a lore article about how he died. There's not going to be a dread character revealed right after the reveal stream.
>>96953358About time we get a venerable redemptor dreadnought. Wonder if it will be a totally new kit or an upgrade sprue you can use on both redemptor and brutalis dreadnought
>>96953359Because they're not as cool as word bearer fans.
>>96953360>>96953073thanks lads,
>>96953359delusions of not being truly into chaos and the near totality of their fluff being sHHit
did you know that if you paint your models, you have a painted army?
>>96953422woah
>>96951221Gave your tips a go and I really like the end result. Gonna use this method for the rest of the armor.
>>96951568I am not.
>>96953410Disregard the Mike Brooks comment, anon was trolling you.
>>96953440Good job anon, glad I could help!
>>96951221Personally I like to highlight black with Incubi Darkness and gradually mixing a bit of off-white into for sharper highlights and a hint of Rhinox Hide in the black spots, to add more contrast between the highlights and shadows.
>>96953410Shroud of Night is the best AL novel imo
I just bought the .stls of boarding actions.
>>96953452I see, I'm not versed on the current authors so I had no clue. Is he the new C.S. Goto in terms of shit or just as skubtastic as Matt used to be?
>>96952157The colour change on the tongue is very abrupt, might want to think on changing inner colour/adding more layers to the fade. Otherwise great
>>96953507He adds trannies into his books.
>>96953514>trannies>in 40kjesus christI wonder if he was the one who got the idea of female custodes
>>96953527I think that was ADB
>>96953535with the dust now settled, I find it very interesting that, contrary to what was at first though, the whole fiasco was not a "corpo wants to push more inclusivity shit against artist integrity", but the opposite of writers being allowed to insert that shit against the recommendations of the company.I rather not give it much though anyway because I know that there are neet discord trannies trolling 4chan 24/7 with the topic "warhammer is woke now!" that is just fucking exhausting
>>96953527No.It was most definetly ADB who did that.There's like a reddit post from ADB from like 2016 or something where he says that the studio has contemplated on adding female custodes, but they then didn't because the models were done already.And since ADB is the Head of Narrative at GW currently, so it's like 99% chance that ADB was the one that did it.And he just did it because he has a femdom fetish and likes big strong women.Like there's a tweet by him where he wants to go to heaven where there is his own personal harem made of Serena Williams (the tennis athlete) waiting for him.ADB is about as bizarre and weird as this place is sometimes. I wonder if he comes here occasionally.
>>96953548>but the opposite of writers being allowed to insert that shit against the recommendations of the company.Or more like GW just looked at it, "Eeh, sure. Go ahead, lets see what happens."Since remember, GW is controlled by basically boomers, most of them do not even have the concept or understanding about the autistic argument that is female custodes or even female space marines.They only think "well does it make more profit?"
Be'lakor is your favorite daemon princess.
>>96953567You are likely right. Mind you, I think "making profit" is a correct mentality for a company to have, which aligns with our interests as nerds if the company has ingrained the "woke go broke". It definitely is more laudable than "I don't care about profit, its about being on the right side of history" and similar woke garbageRegardless, the point of artists/writers being to blame remains, which is kinda funny>>96953557>it was just an autists' dogshit fetishjesus...Its kinda better than my worst fear of being someone who was a schizo psychopath about wanting female space marines and making custodes instead out of spite because he wasn't allowed
>>96953572love this artist
>>96953572Well yeah. Elves make the best demons and the best princesses.
>>96953359people love the underdog storiesi mean for NL, i mean
Female Custodes are good because they make Custodes less Gold Marines.
>>96953575>>it was just an autists' dogshit fetishI think it's kind of based.>"Up next, the writers thinly disguised fetish"Like if I got a job at GW as a writer, I would 100% insert tall, busty women into my stories with short male protagonists.
>>96953589I like female custodes because it gave me more porn.No, I'm not apologizing.
>>96953596you deserve the noosei bet you're a tau goonertroon
>>96953591I think people selectively overlook that fact that half the factions are full of older authors fetishes peppered throughout the lore and art.
>>96953601People are overlooking it because back then we knew it was their fetish. Nowadays we don't know if it's that or someone's pushing some political shit(which is pretty ironic).
>>96953591>>96953601no you don't get itits only based if the fetish isn't dogshit, and femdom is objetively a shit tier fetish
>>96953631You do you, just means more for me.
>>96953572disgusting proportions
>>96953631Why is femdom for sisters of battle and dark eldar based but femdom for custodes is shit?
>>96953651femdom is never based, but at least sisters or dark eldar are women instead of being men claiming to be women.
>>96953572She needs bigger tits.
>>96953651Just leave him be. He's weaker than a girl.
if it troonery becomes worse they'll make men into SoB soon
>>96953691It's already canon that sisters can transition their physical appearance through the power if faith alone.
One day we will all be women.
This is what 40k is supposed to be.
>>96953725It needs my big red wife Magnus the red.
>>96953725A tabletop RPG game?
>>96953732she's busy getting railed by the slave ogryn loaders in the lower decks
>>96953744Kind of how it started out with Rogue Trader.
Necron dominanace all other xenos(except orks) can huff warpfarts(as usual)
>>96951099Can warhammer 40k youtubers really just use space marines on their merchandise?
>>96953761they can until they get found
>>96953758Better hope the Imperium never rediscovers how magnets work
Im starting to think 40k is where chaos goes to die.
>>96953557>I wonder if he comes here occasionally.Doesn't one of his books literally say something thanks to the "Elegant Gentlemen" on the author thanks page?
to be fair if they wanted to openly troon out 40k they'd do it when troonery was openly forced and encouraged, like few years ago
>>96953787Why, because they get like a tenth of the support that AoS chaos gets and mostly just Imperium hand-me-downs?
>>96953826I think it's funny that not a single preorder showed up at any of my LGS's for the Fulgrim box. I thought for sure that was going to be a slam dunk like all the other Primarch army in a box sets were.
>>96952206It's spoofing on a lot of stuff.Most Roman conquest was supposedly done as a defensive war (some Gaul got uppity, time to take the rest of the continent in self defense). It's just a repetitive cycle of human behavior. The modern era is not unique in any meaningful way besides that in the ancient era I would not have the chance to call you stupid and ugly without ever having seen you.
>>96953838>I think it's funny that not a single preorder showed up at any of my LGS's for the Fulgrim box.That's probably because it's not gone up for preorder yet?
>>96953575>>it was just an autists' dogshit fetishNo, it was absolutely idpol sperging too. ADB is the definition of "safe horny", where he needs to ensure his boner is politically correct
Im the emperors sleepiest soldier but i must paint
Why do the space dwarves not have huge ass tanks and crude robots Why do they look so fucking shitHOW COULD THEY FUMBLE THE CONCEPT OF SPACE DWARVES SO FUCKING HARD
>>96953885I don't really think he thinks about political correctness when it comes to fetishes, when he dreams of having his own personal Seran Williams when he goes to heaven.And he posted this publically.
>>96953899I honestly do not knowI remember how hype a lot of the thread was at the teases (myself included) and then the absolute deflation of it when the models were revealed
>>96953852Independent stores have to put their preorder numbers in a week early in order to get their product numbers secured and delivered by launch day
>>96953899why would dwarfs make anything "crude"?if nothing between the votann, the necrosquats and the mantic forgefathers tickles your fancy, then you just don't like dwarfs
>>96953899>>96953924You know, this begs the question of what the hell they are actually building that they require all these enormous amounts of raw resources for? Because we don't really see any of it in the setting and they already have a bunch of exclusive worlds in the most mineral rich region of the galaxy that no one can really contest them for.
>>96953806Pretty sure that between Nurgle, Chorfs, and Skaven that AoS has gotten more chaos releases in the last year than 40k had had since the launch of 8th edition.
>>96953920bonus list of leaks from 2021 because it was right next to that image
>>96953952what happened to the bikers
>>96953921That's not how it works. Stores get allocated boxes and they take what they get.
>>96953960I have no idea, everything else was correct and came out
>>96953960Huh, you're right. Guess they were saving them for the EC release ;)
>>96953700>'eavy metal style for woman's faceClassic mistake
>>96953940AI datacenters are hungry
>>96953960Wild guess but sometimes things are ready a long time in advance and sit in limbo for years.That's apprently what happend to the space marine desolation squad until it was dropped along other marines in a marine wave.
>>96954001>That's apprently what happend to the space marine desolation squadThey should have used that time to redesign it then.
>>96954030I hear you, but unfortunately it sold.
>>96954037fuck I hate when models that are widely agreed to suck still sell on rules and Space Marine consoomerism
Play Necromunda.
>>96954069take a further step back and maybe you'll even realise that a lot of products that sell on rules and Space Marine consoomerism but are also agreed to be good, actually fucking suck as well.
>>96954079eh, if people like a model and buy it at least it's the market at work, I don't think I've talked to a single person irl who says the desolators look good, including marine players, they all bought it because it was in some combo box or had good rules.
>>96954069These are kinda ass but I'll salute the move to plastic.>play necromundaI might, or I'll work on making(/finding) a proper 40k mordheim
>>96954069Amen.Unfortunately the point isn't to make quality, it's to make shiny smooth new things and push the addicts to buy more.The people who want quality aren't the most numerous nor the most money spending.>>96954088meant for >>96954073
>>96954073playing it right now, it's absolutely kino, I'm planning to move from a gsc gang to a malstrain infected corpse grinder cult, still ironing out the lore of how a cult can be khorne and gsc.convinced an admech player to play escher with an ambot and heretek companions too.
>>96954079As a huge space marine autist one thing I've learned when talking to 40k fans (be it here, in stores, irl, etc.) is that as popular as space marines are, most people don't know or care shit about them; what you'll hear repeated perfectly to a T is lore, they love regurgitating their 40k bible.
>>96954110>still ironing out the lore of how a cult can be khorne and gscYou will find a way
>>96954138>Cult limos, beastmen, khorne psykers, and normal humans in the cultOld GSC were wack
>>96954147It's like true junkies, they're not on a single drug, they're hooked on them all
Is the slaanesh battleforce even a good discount? Was thinking between that or the tau box but fuck man both of those boxes are anemic as fuck.
>>96954186The Slaanesh box sells at a 45% discount in the EU which is quite a lot. But if you don't want Fulgrim then it's not worth it.
>>96954073just put an orlock gang together, hoping to get games in soon
>>96953914Serena Williams is a muscular man-faced freak so that actually still falls under safe horny. She’s also a stupid bitch for throwing a public tantrum against someone who beat her. Christ, sportsmanship doesn’t exist anymore.>>96954138If we had a bit more granularity and complexity in our list building, a Khorne GSC that included everyone under the sun could work. Unfortunately we’re saddled with whoever the fuck wrote 10e for the foreseeable future.
>>96954073corpse grinder cults are the only faction that remotely interests me, and they're super cancer for the game from what I hear. Also they dont really have much options like the othter gangs I guess.
>>96954281>and they're super cancer for the game from what I hear.nerf them by infecting with a genestealer cult or taking some silly expensive hanger on.Or you can just not take the best weapon (boning sword) and spam the best way to make up for your weakness (smoke grenades).
>>96954275Serena When dolled up in her prime was something else, a bit of a return to monke situation but still hot.
>>96954275> Unfortunately we’re saddled with whoever the fuck wrote 10e for the foreseeable future.
>>96954073No. They took my gang away and until they give it back I don't give a shit about Necromunda.
>>96953557>I wonder if he comes here occasionally.yes
I won't boxpost but my new archon turned up today.Enough bitz in the kit to kitbash with the old archon sprue I have to make the old kit less shit
>>96954325Thank you for not boxposting
>>96954138Chaos GSC are as dumb as Chaos Necrons or any other "slapping evil flavour on an already evil thing" approach. It just reeks of World of Warcraft shite and its obsession with "what if the purple thing was corrupted by green thing and then re-corrupted by yellow thing???" (pretty sure I am pulling an actual example)
>Why does Nurgle get more minis?>The lead miniature designer loves nurgle>Why does admech look like that?>Jes Goodwin>Why do primaris marines look like that?>Jes Goodwin>Why female custodes?>ADB's fetishThis isn't a 40k, or even warhammer exclusive thing, but when you think something is weird/sucks, you can sure it can be pinpointed to one single person.Every.Single.Time.
>>96951576Exclusive how?
>>96952536Necrons actually have more than one world engine
>>96954339tbf, I can appreciate the new nurgle designs than the cartoon mess deathguard got. More grimdark/occult than any chaos shit has seen for fucking years.
>>96954341Karamzov is out of production.As long as it's not listed directly on GW's webstore its an exclusive model.
>>96954338Shut the fuck up.Wanting to mix existing things is one of the most basic fan behavior.If chaos exists and corrupts, then why not Chaos [insert thing]?If T'au use auxilia, then why not [insert thing] auxiliaIf [insert weapon] exists, why can't [insert faction use it].>reeks of WoWWoW released in 2004 you clown.
>>96954353We call that OOP or out of production/out of printExclusive minis are things that are restricted to store openings, store birthdays, warhammer world tanks, ect.I was just confused is all.Like i wouldnt call RT era minis exclusive, they are just oop
>>96954359No the other anon was right, the unique factors of each race is what draws people to them. When you start mixing like that it destroys the individuality of that faction. In other words you're an idiot.
>>96954359This. My marines have chimeric geneseed are made from chimeric space wolf and blood angel geneseed.They have the wulfen curse and the black rage curse and they can have it at the same time if I want. I kitbashed my wolfguard headtakers with sanguinary guard bits. I get a lot of compliments about it
>>96954374>the unique factors of each race is what draws people to them.No.>When you start mixing like that it destroys the individuality of that faction.No, you create a new subfaction.Shut, the fuck, up.
>>96952350Fulgrim, not Serena, killed Ostian. Serena killed a bunch of other people and then herself, but not Ostian.
>>96954391I would like to see these if you are willing to share, they sound interesting
>>96954374cant believe someone can say this for a setting that has space marine
>>96954374Chaos genestealers were a foundational part of 40k and fine.Also people constantly bitch and moan about there being no chaos xenos. GW making a small subfaction for the GSC where one or two cults are influenced by chaos is fine.
>>96954339>The lead miniature designerWho is this dude?
>>96954366The definition fits.It also encompasses things like the warhammer+ minis and the special event minis like the obi-wan posed company champion
>>96954391Making the cringe that is chimeric marine chapter is more cringe than chaos xenos.
>>96954399Oh thats right, she finds his dead body and the kills herself out of grief. I forgor
>>96954359>If chaos exists and corrupts, then why not Chaos [insert thing]?>If T'au use auxilia, then why not [insert thing] auxilia>If [insert weapon] exists, why can't [insert faction use it].these are all valid questionsyou're genuinely too dumb to understand when crossing over is acceptable and when it isn't, which is why you go with hypocritical blanket statements
>>96954400I lied. I came up with the most cringe homebrew I could think of and you're cringe for liking it.
>>96954418It fits the layman term but within the hobby we use a different term. I'm not trying to dunk on you or anything, im trying to help you get what you want
>>96954426No it isn't. You're just creatively bankrupt.
>>96954437I didnt think they were cool and i wanted to laugh at you
>>96954428What didn't you understand in "Shut the fuck up"?I don't care what retards think, I do care to remind them that they are stupid motherfuckers.
>>96954359>WoW released in 2004 you clownDuh, I was not saying its an influence but trying to add Chaos to an already edgy, evil faction just smells the same way>Wanting to mix existing things is one of the most basic fan behavior.Corruption plots are supposed to be forces of good being subverted by forces of evil. How many templates can you stack on top of things before things go from cool to muddy? Because there has to be a cut off point. Genestealer cults are already corrupted humans, so now we're talking double-corrupted. What about mindshackle scarabs? How about Chaos GSC Mind-controlled by scarabs? Or, hey, there are ork GSC so why not Chaos ork GSC? Chaos GSC Grot revolutionaries?Its just too much dude, same as the idea of... Chaos DEldar. They're already DARK eldar. Chaos DEldar GSC anyone? Just too much.>>96954408They were never a foundational part of 40k. They were an optional subfaction for Genestealer Clans
>>96954395>>96954406>>96954408These are the people that will water down Warhammer into a soup of unrecognizable excrement.
>>96954437>cringeTo you. Doesn't mean much.
>>96954450>I don't care what retards thinkthat explains the lack of introspection and self awareness but please, continue
>>96954459bro 40ks entire identity is just power armor. That is its identity.
>>96954440>it fits the layman's terms>but not my super special hobby jargon>i'm trying to help youSure buddy. Once again, OOP doesn't account for things like >>96954418 or Warhammer+ minis, which are not OOP.
>>96954459You know once they ruin the experience they will be the first to quit claiming the franchise does not listen to their player base and move on to another game to ruin with their terrible ideas. Its similar to how a liberal will destroy their state and move to a red state to being destroying it with their idea next.
>>96954459>Remove existing things to simplify factions>Somehow the opposite of watering downLow intelligence is paired with lack of self-awareness. I'm talking about you, in case you are that stupid.
>>96954470Yes, those things are exclusive.Most exclusive things are OOPNot everything OOP is exclusiveDoes that makes sense to you?
Daemons speak Gothic even when fighting Tau with no humans around, so making Chaos Xenos is making Xenos more humanlike, its a waste.
>>96954481OOP models are exclusive by virtue of not being easily obtainable from GW
>>96954474>Chaos GSC exists>Remove it>That was cool and followed what was and still is established in universe>Urrmm you're trying to ruin the setting
>>96954493It's clear you don't understand so I will not be responding anymore. I hope you have a pleasant day
>>96954492demons do whatever the fuck the plot requires at any given point and do so inconsistently
>>96954503Which is the worst part about the setting, yes, Chaos Daemons really are shit and deserve to get rewritten by like 60% if not more
>>96954492The whole argument boils down to "I don't like chaos xenos"
>>96954509I agree, chaos should get removed from 40k entirely, aliens are more than enough as enemies
>>96954315If this is accurate you must have been a real fag back in the late 90's. Truly the tasteless pick-me runt of your group.
>>96954509I thought it was the warpand the humans and the entire settings identity that made the setting bad
>>96954315Which gang? Mutants? Ratskins?
>>96954523I wouldn't go that far but we definetly do not need Choas *insert faction* for all races. Its just so stupid and excessive.
>>96954539>Eldars created a chaos god>but no chaos eldar, okay?
>>96954511See >>96954455, in a lot of ways its thematically redundant and results only in worf effectSo Chaos Xenos are better when they're a species of their own, like Yu'Vath or the such>>96954539Pretty much my sentiment, there deserve to be at least couple incorruptible factions like Nids & Crons>>96954541Croneworlders exist but ya as I said, Chaos Dark Eldar is just too stupid of an idea
>>96954455>How many templates can you stack on top of things before things go from cool to muddy? Because there has to be a cut off point. Genestealer cults are already corrupted humans, so now we're talking double-corrupted. What about mindshackle scarabs? How about Chaos GSC Mind-controlled by scarabs? Or, hey, there are ork GSC so why not Chaos ork GSC? Chaos GSC Grot revolutionaries?It all depends man, you obviously would never expect GW to provide official support for mindshackled genestealer khorne orks but if someone wants to use that as a basis for a kitbash project let them, the lore supports it, why not?
>>96954539we do not need chaos humans, or chaos marines either, it's a lame and pointless corruption of evil yet again, and they fall into the same bullshit asspulls the demons doremoving chaos completely fixes a lot of stuff in 40k
>We don't like chaos xenos, so let's remove them>We don't like dark eldars, so let's remove them>We don't like admech, so let's remove them>We don't like T'au, so let's remove them>Why shouldn't I remove everything I don't like?
>>96954557>the lore supports it, why not?I mean they're obviously free to do whatever they want with their toys but if I wanted to personalize my toys I'd be more concerned with thematics & style.Its kinda like putting irl flags on your miniatures or making entire joke armies.
>>96954559Removing Chaos makes the entire buildup to the current setting irrelevant and now we would have to retcon all of HH?! That seems way to far...
>>96954574Its not about removing chaos xenos but rather re-adding them after they've been removed, which is different.
>forgot to put thread title in new OP>stopped on side of the road so phoneposting>can't delete old thread because phoneposting>thread timer resetHaha time to kms
>>96954601They've not been removed, chaos GSC cults have been removed, there are still chaos worshipping xenos, one notable example was during the great crusade with the Laers
Anyone have pdf for crusade armagedon?
>>96954588>Removing Chaos makes the entire buildup to the current setting irrelevant and now we would have to retcon all of HH?! That seems way to far...we don't have to retcon the heresy, we just need them all to die with it and after itthe "current narrative" is a pointless placeholder
>>96954641>Don't have to retcon>Just kill everyone insteadWhat?
>>96954644everything in the heresy happens, but after that, they die in the scouring or whateverno retcon of the horus heresy
>>96954659Ok I see
>>96954455>Corruption plots are supposed to be forces of good being subverted by forces of evil.40k isn't a story.The entire point of chaos is that it corrupts everything, tyranids and other aliens aren't safe from that.
>>96954620>chaos GSC cults have been removedThe whole argument is basically about those in particularBut ya I think Chaos Xenos are awkward in a sense because they're meant to be daemon worshippers... And daemons are just kinda too humanized in current 40k, both aesthetically and fluff-wise. So laer? Those freaky snake-things? Yeah they're beholden to uh, human androgynes with crab clawsIts a bit like making Genestealer Cult of a non-humanoid xenos, say, the Galg. So you take that weird, lumpy thing of tentacles with no discernable face and... It hybridizes into something arguably MORE humanoid until it goes purestrain which is space xenomorph-with-eyes, which - while sufficiently alien for me - admittedly is more human-like than the original, parasitized alien host species
>>96954582meme armies are actually based if you actually make them to play with them and not take a picture for twitter and resell it.
>>96954665>tyranids and other aliens aren't safe from thatTyranids are safe from that lol they regularly survive getting wholly dunk inside the Warp without any g-fields as per 10th codexThere have never or will ever be chaos nids because chaos has nothing to offer and tempt them
>>96954459>chaos GSC exist>GW dumbs down the setting by removing them>"hey it'd be nice if we got this back, it would add some nice variety to the setting">"ur watering down mah warhammer!Are you retarded?Watering down is what GW literally did when they removed chaos GSC. Adding them back would be the opposite.
>>96954689I'm a newfag from last year, I just like pretending to be a long established player with knowledge of former editions and factions. Forgive me.
>>96954601Chaos xenos still exist and are canon.Making some arbitrary split where you sa>"only these X Y and Z xenos can be corrupted by chaos"Is retarded and quite literally runs counter to the entire fucking setting.
Why do Nurgle deamons/marines looks so much cooler compared to the other gods?
>>96954665>chaos is that it corrupts everythingActually Abbaddon the Despoiler has plans for the Chaos Gods as he refuses to bow down to them and still isn't corrupted in spite of leading forces of Chaos in 40k>"But they reserve their fiercest hatred for Abaddon. Oh, how they despise him. They hunger for him, fighting each other for the honour of attracting his ironclad soul into their clutches. The Pantheon hates him the way parasites or addicts resent that which sustains them. Without Abaddon, they have no hope of victory. If he would only choose one of them, if he would only commit his destiny to one of the Gods, it would bring the Great Game of Chaos to its final moves. But then Abaddon would lose. He fights not for the Pantheon, those creatures that hate how they need him, nor does he care about their Great Game. He fights for himself, for his own ambitions, and for the brothers at his side. He fights for the Legions cast aside by the Emperor. He cares about the Imperium we built with our blood, sweat, bolters and blades – and he wants it back. He cares about returning to the godling that gave us life and seeing the Emperor bleed for all His failures. He cares about brotherhood, the unity of the damned, the wrongs that were done to all of us. And therein lies the root of the Gods’ spite. They beseech him. They beg him. They betray him in spite and then crawl back in the hope that he will bow to them. But the power is ultimately Abaddon’s, and that is what the Gods can never forgive."
>>96954717nobody asked, sperg
>>96954713>Making some arbitrary split where you saThe split comes from worldbuilding silly. Chaos still need a substrate and the right conditions to bloom, the one that neither crons nor nids can provide.Chaos can corrupt a barren rock and grow, say, mouths on it but Chaos gets nothing from that.
>>96954717>AbaddonNo one cares, retard.
>>96954717Damn dude well in one of my games a Lieutenant with a Power Sword swung high and killed Abaddon in melee, guess Chaos is fucked.
>>96954729>but muh world buildingYeah, and it still fucking stupid.Even from a world building stand point it is fucking retarded, >"Oh yeah, chaos xenos exist, but these particular xenos?>"Uhh, well they are special so there is no corrupted versions of them, not because they can't be corrupted, but because I arbitrarely decided you can't corrupt them."It's the same level of stupidity if Tolkien made had some random low life bitch human character, but then says he just can't be corrupted by the One Ring. What's the reason for him not getting influenced? Well, there isn't any, he just arbitrarely decide so.People would call this, rightfully, both lazy and shitty world building.You're a retard, go fuck yourself.
>>96954541>>96954574I just take AoS minis and use them as stand-ins for Chaos Eldar 'allied' to my CSM.
>>96954761Stop you're hurting my feelings.
>>96954609>>96954586>>96954617>Don't lose your way>no title
>>96954761>You're a retard, go fuck yourself.Now was that last sentence really necessary?
>>96954761>unnecessarily rudeOpinion discarded
>>96954772Pls no bulli
God now the decalmutant is posting in my fucked up thread. Will the humiliation never end???
>>96954617>Can't delete because phoneposting.You absolutely can delete on phone, what are you talking about?Probably not anymore because you waited too long!
>>96954800I was honoring your bravery King
>>96954804Something went wrong
>>96954788You will carry this shame until the new thread
>>96954805You bumped the fucked thread to page 1. Let it die
>>96954832Shoot, forgot it would do that my bad.
>>96953914>when he dreams of having his own personal Seran Williams when he goes to heaven.He specifically dreamed of being rewarded with a minority musclemommy for being a based heckin wokerino. So yes, he very much DOES think about politics all the time, he's just also a retard and terroble at formulating thoughts, which is an ironic handicap for a career writer to have.
>>96954761The reasons are not arbitrary, they're literally1) crons dont have souls, its even more pointless than corrupting a potted house plant2) nid groupthink which is part of them is a god-entity of its own, its like asking for Khorne-corrupted Nurgle or Tzeentch Gork or some shit like thatYou sound upset
>>96954804Nta but deleting doesn't work for me on Kurobaex
>>96954858Chaos corrupts and possesses inanimate objects all the time. Don't see why Necrons should be excluded. If anything, a living metal body should make an ideal body for a daemon to possess and wreak havoc in real space, as it's self-repairing and more resilient than a feeble flesh body. There have also been corrupt Tyranids in the setting. In Storm of Iron the IW used a corrupted hive ship as a titan lander. In Daemon World there were some intergalactic aliens with the intelligence of animals and large scything talons being used as beasts of burden on a Daemon World.
>>96954966especially with Vashtorr now in the setting and his dark technology bullshit. you'd think the quintillions of necron mechanical bodies would be prime targets for him. they'd be multitudes bigger than what ever he could steal from the Mechanicus.
>>96954966yeah but then Chaos would be more than a faggoty space marine fedora tipping circle jerk and we can't have that
>>96955012Chaos is fine in its current state, stop trying to rock the boat.
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>>96955012It'd still be cool.
>>96953651who the fuck said its based for those? its still shit
>>96951403Animefags are soulless cowards
