Wasteland Rockstar editionPrevious thread:>>96945289Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim, Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster... ...and any other GW system and board game are welcome.Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0VThread's Topic: Name the best and the worst core rule in your favourite system. Could be the mechanical aspect or flavour preference.
>>96976208First for the Reedemer.
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is there a chance for corpse grinder cults to get expanded on? I want to try necromunda with them but their roster seems to be quite empty compared to other gangs. Do they get to ally anything in like in warcry?
>>96976315I hope not. CGC players belong in camps. But serious answer is solid maybe but I don't think it will necessarily be a CGC expansion and more likely a Helot expansion/kit and CGC gets updated with some cross over.
>>96976045RPS is a headache as it made a dedicated CC dual wield fighter seems kinda difficult. But you can still made a specific build to skewed fight in your favor : like horn + skull + spikey bits give you 2 strong headbutt if you only throw hammer. There should be some rule change to make a down model stop resolving their action, so the one who initiate fight got some advantage, as their action resolved first in a fight.
>none of the house gangs speak to me>want to just kitbash a bunch of cool looking dudesVenators is the correct gang for me, right?
>>96976315There's a chance, maybe even a likelihood, but it's all speculation. SDS takes big swings with their releases and makes it hard to predict the future.The Corpse Grinder kit was contemporaneous with the first Enforcer kit, and Enforcers have since been robustly filled out. One might expect them to now fill out the CGC.But at the same time, nobody expected to be here in current year with Enforcers as the faction that has the most plastic kits, and Squats as the faction that has the second most (tied with Van Saar).>>96976472If you have a mature gaming group and Arbitrator it shouldn't matter what you pick, you can re-skin any of them. Figure out how you're building your gang and what their gimmick is, and then pick the faction that represents it best.
>>96976472Yes. That or Outcasts if you want to play one specific cool model/profile with a gaggle of minions. But between those two gangs you can basically do anything. Especially now that Venators has the extra racial profiles. Also keep in mind that you can take a Tech Merchant (from House of Artifice) to increase the rarity of stuff you can by 2. And Venator Leader has an option to be a Wyrd (from Book of the Outcast). So you can do some pretty funky shit but try not to power game with it.
>>96976315Common sense would suggest that CGC is next but judging by the releases, they just do whatever the fuck they want, and Delaque still got no vehicle kits. so no one know.There're also Goremonger and Jakhals you can use as alternative CGC.>>96976472Venators allow you do a mix of house gang + squat + ratling + beastmen and certainly is the strongest of the "anything goes" gangs.Outcast allow you to use the many characters profile in Necromunda to make a gang, or build a really strong leader. they have really mediocre Champs. The rule has a fail-safe "do-over" in case your leader died, so it does encourage you to play more aggressive with your leader instead of the usual scaredy cat leader.Outcast also give you the option to play as the "mutant" archetype, unlike the normal outcast, the lackeys (champ + ganger) in a mutant gang are really beefy with the scaly skin and bulky mutation. Mutants are great modeling projects. Don't spam fat, scaly bastards mutants is the general nice rule when making a mutant gang.Helot chaos Cult is another "anything goes" gang. They had a strong psyker and can sometimes get a chaos spawn.GSC can use any model too, you can give them extra arm and shit, but their rules hasn't been updated in a long time.
>>96976472Or Outcasts depending on how you want to play them and the background for the gang
Has anyone here actually played with Outcasts? I have the Nautican Delegation models from a recast order and have been considering using them for an Outcast gang since that is an option. I do also have the House Greim delegation available as well. But would they be fun or better off just kept for regular gang alliances if I want to use them?
>>96976844Both are terrible if you want some confirmation, but the good are you can buy combat shotgun for ganger with greim and needle pistol for Nautican.
>>96976844Outcast are fun when everyone is playing outcast and go into the game about making the stupidest gang ever.
>>96966103Very nicely painted lizards, anon
I've been playing a few games with my son now, and we seem to have the rules down pact now after a couple of simple skirmishes, working our way up in complexity to the point where we now use heroes and perform heroic actions, etc. The only rule I now have trouble with, in terms of clarification, is what happens in the pictured instance. Bill over here wants to charge Gimli, but he cannot put his model in base contact because of the overhang on the terrain. Logically, which the game likes to stress importance of, Bill COULD slightly duck to fit in there to attack Gimli, so would it be considered in combat if I move Bill as close as possible? Or do the bases HAVE to be touching in order to be considered in combat, there are a lot of tactical implications of them not being in base contact I realize, such as easier in the way movement, easier surround on Bill, etc; but there is no way to physically combat Gimli otherwise. Am I just to throw stones at him at this point? Is the actual option to move Bill around and charge him through those pillar slits (the holes in the terrain) on the otherside, and just give Gimli the defender advantage? Since Bill could realistically attack through those holes and there is a precedent for charging barriers like that. It's more the overhang issue that I need clarification on.
>>96976208>nd the worst core rule in your favourite systemBottle test
is starting necromunda with a malstrain gang a bad idea?also why does the kit give you 6 genestealers when you can only ever use 3?
>>96979448yes if you do full malstrain, you should do malstrain infested something else.you get 6 for the dedicated campaign.
>>96973626It's got rules for orks and eldar and space marines! It's definitely superior, N17 only has squats and genestealers for stuff that belongs in 40k
>>96979448Yes, it's a bad idea for a normal campaign, and and especially bad idea if it's your first. Genestealers, the floating ticks and the brood scum are all used in the underhells campaign, where they take to role of NPCs that can spawn on the battlefield. Not taking a House Gang as your first will gimp you, although that may be something you can live with, but the Malstrain really is not suitable for any other campaign
>>96976844When you play Outcasts, you dedicate yourself to playing the goons the hero beats up in the first 10 minutes of an action flick, but for a whole campaign. Personally I think it's great fun, and your leader will undoubtedly get a reputation within your group, as he will become a powerhouse, but there's simply not enough you can do with shitty champs and baseline scum and no real advantage. It's great for converting /yourdudes/, and in your case I think it would be interesting to see how some Mercator Nautica mooks would look, and mabye a Greim Militia would be easy to kitbash with some IG and traitor guard bits, but if you don't enjoy that part of the hobby, I think you should simply add your delegation to a house gang
>>96979648>>96980097that's a shame since I quite like the malstrain modelsthe actual house gangs don't really call out to me so I'll probably wind up just doing either venators since I love converting stuff or just orlok normal genestealers
>>96977951Unless the rules specifically state that the model itself affects where it can fit then it is allowed to be anywhere even if the model physically won't allow it. If it has the charge distance to make it into Btb then you should consider it into Btb.
>>96979448Malstrain is specifically for one kind of specialised campaign so you would need Arbitrator ok to use them in a non-Underhells campaign. The Malstrain Corrupted regular gang though is legal for normal campaigns.
>>96976508>>96976513>>96976538>>96976833Thanks for the heads up anons. I want to do a fairly elite band of grizzled bounty hunters so Venators fit the exact flavor I'm looking for, but it's good to know about Outcasts and the like for future projects.
>>96976508>The Corpse Grinder kit was contemporaneous with the first Enforcer kit, and Enforcers have since been robustly filled out. One might expect them to now fill out the CGC.I hope so. Corpse Grinders drew me in with how they look and it would be great to see more of them.
>>96980712CGC is fucking retarded because chaos cult is already a thing that you can theme any way you like.CGC is GW saying that you can't be creative on your own, that if you want khorne cultists you have to have them how GW wants.
>>96981004That's not true. You can have a Khorne worshipping Chaos Cult
>>96981033>you "can" if you wantAnd yet no one does outside of oldcromunda.
>>96981063No, I met a guy who played Helot Cults using some converted Jakhals last campaign. It's possible and it happens. The decision to create CGC is as much of an enigma as giving Squats the most plastic kits. It can't be explained rationally. Mabye someone at the specialist games division made some gnarly artwork or mabye someone didn't want the cultists to be usable in regular 40k. Who knows.
>>96981152>It can't be explained rationallyYes it can, anon did it last thread.
What if I wanted to play Ratskins in current ‘Munda and had the scans to do so? Outcasts?
>>96981271Ash waste Nomads.
>>96981063I don't think a lot of people play any flavor of Helot Cult in nucromunda honestly
>>96981314Do they work in normal 'Munda or only out in the wastes?>>96981338I'd like to but IDK if i want to play the game at my LGS, ages ago I asked who to play with cuz I had just bought my first box (CGC) and was told no one would play me if I ran them ever so I gave up
>>96981353Because you bought GWs newest thing at the time and New Thing is always released with rules that make them win.Everyone who plays CGC and currently Enforcers, is a pay-to-win dickhead.
>>96981393They weren;t new when I bought them (I think), I bought them cuz I like Khorne and didn't know anything about the game. Although based on what I've read since about them, you may be right with the second part. Why are Enforcers bad? They were my second choice at the time
>>96981353>Do they workTheir main gimmick is summon the spirit to buff themselves. Outside the shaman can change weather and they had some advantage on harsh condition. Shaman is mounted unit so you can't use them in most hive scenario anyway.
>>96981420Shame, if I end up playing ‘Munda I guess it’ll be Outcasts to be funny… or Helot Cult…
>>96981405They were "your: choice because of GW marketing.See it all the time, tryhard WAACfags or noobs who buy what they're told to ALWAYS say "I chose them becsuse I like them". These two types of anon somehow only ever play New Broken Thing.
>>96981435Ok dude
>>96981443Here's an idea: If you want to play the gang game then you should pick a GANG
>>96981468While I do understand this sentiment (not your retarded childish attitude mind you), none of the main clan gangs appeal to me, Orlock is to "generic" I guess, Van Saar too high tech (IK they got an STC but I prefer their N95 look), Goliath and Escher are too whatever, leaving Delaque and Cawdor, with Delaque being cool with retarded fluff (not a fan of the fish people thing) and Cawdor being too, idk ramshackled? As if they're orks or something, but they do have great fluff. What does that leave me with? CGC (too OP), Enforcers (also too OP? not sure, you haven't answered why they are yet), Ash Waste Nomads (lol), Outcasts (Could be neat), Squats (better than Votann but still so so to me), Venators (aren't these just worse Outcasts rules wise? I really don't know), and Helot Cult (Interesting). Of THOSE I;'m only into CGC, Enforcers, Outcasts, and Helots. I'll believe you (until proven otherwise) that Enforcers are another WAACfag gang, so I'll avoid them, leaving me with Outcasts and Helots (and Squats as a big maybe). Do YOU (random guy) have an issue with either of those as well?
>>96981271Venators is probably going to be your easiest adaptation given how their weapon options work. Otherwise Outcasts would also more or less fit the vibe and your mooks have similar enough weapon options. Maybe you could use Cawdor as the ruleset for the gang and just refluff any faith bases stuff to be Hive Spirit based etc. Otherwise as the other anon said Nomads and maybe just ask your Arbitrator about how to handle the Shaman. Mounted does normal preclude you from use in ZM, but maybe any exception can be made for the Shaman specifically or you come to an agreement about some sort of non-Mounted profile to use for him.
>>96981513>muh attitudeWhere the fuck do you think you are, m'lady?!
>>96981541Understood, is there a place online I could easily see how each gang operates so I can see how Outcasts and Venators work?
>>96981553I accept your concession
>>96981560Fucking ESL faggots
>>96981564Yeah?
>>96981570No habla espanol senor
>>96981582Oh you were talking about yourself, ok
>>96981597i think anon is hinting that your post about concession makes no sense so you must be incapable of reading english correctlyi know its got me confused
>>96981555https://www.necroraw.ru/
>>96981645>SamefaggingNo shame>>96981646Thanks anon! Have a nice day
>>96981645Right? Faggot has no argument so he just error 404's into>you lose the argument b...because I say so!
>96981658(You) have no argument, you're flailing into the wind and have resorted to samefagging, couldn't imagine
>>96981667Delusional schizo
>>96981667OHHHH NOW I GET IT!I recognize this passive aggressive faggotry from /btg/, you're the actual literal faggot who posts nudes!
>>96981733I haven't been to /btg/ specifically because of who you're referring of, ironic you're calling me passive aggressive considering all you've been is that, when all I did was say I wanted to play CGC and was told no lol. Keep samefagging though
>>96981745>T..that's not me!I feel like I've called it perfect, a better deflect wouldve been feigning ignorance of what and who that is, bottom.
Perry anon has done untold damages to this board
>>96981774Nah, I couldn't feign ignorance, you brought my mood down by the mere mention of that faggot, ruined that fucking general so I avoid it like the plague, shame too cuz the guy who painted Amaris Dragoons on there was cool. Back on topic, WHY are Enforcers WAACfaggotry? Was it the new book?>>96981780I thought he only posted on /wfg/? Only place I;ve seen him post anyways (I think)
>>96981745you dont seem to understand what samefagging is
>>96979900If someone hacked the NCE to alternating activations if would definitely be superior.
>>96981794I believe you are avoiding /btg/, but only because no faggot posting has occured there in awhile. Must be tiresome when you pathetically copy the nazi and everyone calls you out on it.Also "painting" with markers? come the fuck on.
>>96981816Whatever makes you happy dude, can we get back to the original question? Why are enforcers considered WAACfaggotry
Did the Aranthian Succession books have any neat campaigns?
>>96981846You were literally already told specifically that.Go back to school, ESL.
>>96981846>Why are enforcers considered WAACfaggotryThey aren't, but they're the best selling and most popular gang for newbies under the false assumption that being the cop in a gang wars game made them the special snowflake.They were made mediocre to avoid cringe 2+ enforcers in a campaign. The new book made them on par with every other gang, which might increase the chance of that happen now.
>>96981888Because they’re pay to win? That doesn’t explain anything. Oh well I guess it was folly to ask someone. Have a nice day/night or whatever
>>96981926Ahhh I get it now. Thanks! Considering that I’ll probably go with Venators/Outcasts or Helots then.
>>96981935You should read the whole comment you got that from instead of just a couple of words.Silly me though, I'm talking to a faggot who's confessed to fleeing another general for this one because everyone sick of you being a faggot.
>>96981952Ok sure>>96981393>Because you bought GWs newest thing at the time and New Thing is always released with rules that make them win.>Everyone who plays CGC and currently Enforcers, is a pay-to-win dickhead.No actual reasoning besides "new thing is good because it's good." I'll trust the other anon who actually answered me as opposed to you though
OK that's enough (you)s for him, I got my answer in the end
>>96981977Yeah, that's the fucking explanation, that is GW's entire business model. New Thing is always Best Thing because that's how they sell you shit!
>>96981987No one but you gives a fuck about (You)s, faggot. All this does is confirm that you are bottom.
I just want to see necromunda kitbashes
>>96979900Did you never play the GSC rules for N95? You could get actual Purestrains and they absolutely fucked.
>>96982017As in entirely kitbashed from other kits, or are conversions also acceptable?
>>96982325I feel like you're missing the "only" qualifier there.
Anyone have links to the old Blood Bowl magazines? I'm missing the last eight issues.
>>96982360To be honest I'm not even entirely sure of the point they were trying to make with that whole post.
>>96982476My point was that despite the larger number of listed factions in newcromunda, that the presence of eldar, space marines, orks, etc... in Oldcromunda means that there is a larger potential for YourDudes as you can take those stats and compare them to your preferred edition of 40k and reverse engineer any unit from any faction.
I'm a gooner and want to know which non-escher gang should I play if I just want to be straight up jacking it while we're gaming?
>>96982578Goliaths, faggot.
>>96982578Goliaths of course. Call them the Hog Crankers.
>>96982638Magic Mikes
>>96982578If you're gay, Goliath.If you're straight. Goliath.
>>96982578Genestealer Infected Goliaths
>>96981393Goliaths are still the strongest gang in the game, and they were the first House to have their book released. You got stupid ideas. People who say new releases have the strongest rules have been getting BTFO by reality for 20+ years.
>>96983061Having base T4 somehow keeps getting overlooked by people until they run into Goliaths or Squats. And then Goliaths have S4 to boot. Venators might have an edge though since they can get Ogryns as Leaders, Champs, and Gangers and general access to weapons even if you pay through the nose for it.
>>96983134And they can casually stack T5 on a bunch of dudes, too! Plus Boltgun access for Gangers. If playing RAW they're the top dogs. Once you lay down some house rules to stop cookie-cutter spam they get better (but other gangs also lose their most obnoxious spam builds).
>>96983149Yeah Venators really require the player to intentionally not be a dick or have Abritrator anti-dick measures in place. I took an Ogryn Ganger with Paired Augmetic Fists simply because I had the model ready and wanted to use him. Didn't even occur to me how badly general access to Ogryn could get if I actually wanted to abuse their rules. That being said I do like their overall concept and that they have included so many racial profiles. It is a nice dumping ground for just doing whatever the fuck.
>>96983172I was talking about Goliaths getting T5 via genesmithing. But Goliaths and Venators are both gangs that are very easy to abuse, yeah.
>>96982585>>96982638>>96983043>>96983055my arbitrator said he'd shoot me if I showed up with goonliaths with waifu heads
>>96983329I bet he would change his mind if you gave him a quick wristy under the table.
>>96983329
Yet another hombrew rule for Mordheim trying to make armour worth a damn.>When a character with Armour Save is hit by an attack of S4 or above, reduce the S of the attack by an amount equal to the penalty given to the Armour Save until the Armour Save is completely negated or the S of the attack is reduced to 3.>Example: If a Chaos Cultist wearing Heavy Armor (5+ save) were to be hit by a S4 attack, the armor save would be reduced to a 6+ but the S of the attack would also be lowered to 3.>If a weapon has the Armor Piercing quality, apply its effect before reducing the attacks S for the purpose of bypassing armorWould you play with shit like this?
>>96984615In plain english doc?
>>96984615>Would you play with shit like this?No, seems needlessly complicated. I'm personally perfectly content with armor being a late-campaign vanity item but if I where to change it I'd keep the modification simple and straightforward by adjusting the price to be more appropriate to the effect it grants and/or increase the save to suit the groups taste.
>>96984615Nah, it's too cute. Just change the threshold for penetration from S4 to S5.
>>96982017There ain't really any point in posting here, as you're only gonna get doxxed by one of the resident schizos. If you wanna se 'munda conversion I'd recommend Instagram, discord or some other normie app
>>96982017Simple helmet change
Is there an updated roster tool for the new bloodbowl edition yet?
>>96983707WTF, why are there lesbo dyke heads in this?
>>96985251>as you're only gonna get doxxed by one of the resident schizoswhat?
>>96986072For some reason GW threads attract schitzos who try to match your models to anywhere else you’ve posted them or other models and try to dox your real name and shit.
>>96986117Yup, it's why demands of "post models" are made, and why they are ignored.Anons who make that demand are just hoping to identify your LGS by distributing the images to their discord thought police groups so they can at least get you banned from an LGS and hopefully also get you fired from your job or ostracized by friends/family.
>>96983707>>96985585NO. GIRLS. ALLOWED!!!!!!
>>96986332Gringos with TDS are something else.
>>96986980What do Total Dissolved Solids have to do with anything? Fucking ESL spic.
>>96986980anon is right, this shit happens all over now. it's such an actual thing that even woke chatgpt doesn't try to deny it, and chatgpt bends over backwards to pretend a lot of shit wokes do isn't actually happening.
>>96987090jesus fucking christ you are retarded to use GPT for it xD
>>96977951You're over thinking it
>>96987367You only say that because you feel personally attacked.
>>96985424they updated the Death Pitch app with 3rd Season team stats. they don't seem to have updated the inducements or Stars yet, though
>>96982017Ive posted him before I think, but this was my forge tyrant kitbash for the end of our last campaign.
is warcry easy to get into?
>>96987689No. Fuck leftist niggers. But also laugh at your retardation xD. Asking a glorified random word generator about you theory is such a fucking stupid move.
>>96988345Rules-wise absolutely, Warcry is simple and intuitive; it's my go-to game for introducing people to miniature gaming. From a material perspective it's not bad either, Warcry is at it's best when you have a good amount of multi-level terrain but it still plays reasonably well on boards much sparser than what you'd need for Kill Team or Mordheim or the like, and miniatures-wise most factions will want about 2 boxes but there's a good chunk of factions that can be made reasonably well with 1 box of dudes.
>>96988373>whooshThe point is that the LLM can find an overwhelming amount of references to such a thing existing, not just in the context of accusations, but by scouring it's reddit archive and seeing such groups coordinating exactly such a thing.
>>96986332>it's why demands of "post models" are made, and why they are ignored>t. nomodels schizo
>>96988855Post models.
>>96981513Ash Waste nomads are fucking kino. They are fucking fremen tuskens. If I wasn't already balancing too many projects I would get me some hazmat talibans.
>>96981513Anyone here have or seen an Orlock gang made they really like? I'm working on making some background on every gang for myself, but Orlock just seems too basic for me to really make something up with them.
>>96988906I do agree with you but I'm told they don't properly function in normal 'munda and I've NEVER seen anyone at my LGS play Ash Wastes. I'd *like* to play the Sand People Fremen (kinda redundant) but I also want a properly functioning gang, or as functioning as Outcasts and Helots can possibly be. However if somehow GW from above makes AWN work in the hives, sure, why not. If I HAD to pick a clan gang I'd probably go with Cawdor using scans of the red redemptionists for everyone
>>96988345>>96988436Like this anon said, rules are really easy to pick up.Unless you're paying competitive you don't need 2 boxes, one box is fine and will give you a bit of variety too.If you want more list building options, Spearheads are an amazing way to build a variety of Warbands.You can build a huge variety that way.But the vs sets are good like Heart Of Ghur, Red Harvest if you can find it.Don't buy the starter set, it's a fucking trap
>>96988993>I do agree with you but I'm told they don't properly function in normal 'mundaThey get to ignore rough terrain and protect against the weather but without it their main gimmick work out just fine in the hive. They counter shooty team with "ghosts of the wastes", so they do bring some unique gameplay to the table.Their main problem is : retards try to argue how "sky mantle" work because no one at GW has played the game and give no clear explanation, they only used the nomad trading post, and Shaddar hunter's weapons suck. Their guns do the job, but they lacks high end weapons choice for leader/champs, and the nomad trading post is limited.
>>96988985>Orlock just seems too basic for me to really make something up with them.Orlock is all about personal reputation and bragging right with their gimmick Legendary names, of all the gangs, they should be "the background gang"
>>96989298Huh... Good to know... Maybe I could make a Fremen incursion group upon hive primus
>>96989313>>96988985Just think of a whacky idea and use Orlock rules, that's what I'm doing
>>96984615I like it. Pretty cute rule and makes sense flavour-wise.>>96987994Nicely painted.
>>96989247>Unless you're paying competitive you don't need 2 boxes, one box is fine and will give you a bit of variety too.I should clarify, when I say 2 boxes I mean in general for all factions, not just the bespokes. You get a good variety in most bespoke boxes but if you're playing any of the compendium factions you'll almost certainly want 2 boxes to have some variety. Sure you can play an all Chaos Warriors warband for example but it's going to be extremely one-note.Seconding Spearhead boxes, most are great for variety. A lot of the old Start Collecting! boxes are too at a cheaper price-point if you can find them for close to MSRP.
>>96990152Sorry, thought when you said 2 boxes you meant the specialist teams.But yeah, for regular factions would be boring. Old SCs barely exist sadly.
>>96988765I would explain why you are wrong, well wrong maybe isnt the best word, rather not right, i I dont think you will care since it confirms your bias. tldr: llm is only s good as its data and hence using it for more social media related stuff gives you a response that while being technically correct (maybe, since you never know what the company did to the algorithm), does not equal truth- due to inherit retardation of social media.
This feels rather spiteful
>>96991119
>>96991119It is needlessly antagonistic. If it weren't for the 'few results' and echo chamber bits I could have taken it for a proper joke but whoever at GW wrote that definitely has a chip on their shoulder. Also sort of ironic that this is the same company that held LRB6, I think it was, hostage because they saw people using 3rd party models in tournaments for Star Players that had no official models.
>>96990988>>96987059Even psychiatrist are reporting TDS and this kind of conducts on their patients. People looking for things in multiple social media in order to bully people has been a thing for a long time now.Schools and universities in my country for example have tried to combat the issue, but as anon pointed out the level of insanity is not limited for example in one university. This fuckers coordinate to bully people in a large web.
>>96991290GW has absolutely fucked 40k 10th because they lack models for certain units. So I'm not surprised.I miss old GW when they simply told you convert shit and use random historical models like a proper wargame
>>96991301>Schools and universities in my country for example have tried to combat the issueGot any links?
>>96988765Holy shit you're dumb
>>96991567https://radio.uchile.cl/2025/11/14/indh-realizara-jornada-clave-para-enfrentar-el-ciberacoso-y-las-violencias-digitales-en-sala-master/Hell even our local human right institute is trying to tackle the issue due to how widespread it is. They can't hide the problem.Our ministry of education is also trying to deal with the problem, going out of their way to study and bring programs from other places of the world that have had some level of success (keyword here "some"). As an example they study the MARC program in the USA and the The Media Heroes program from Germany to name a few.So when I see anons dismissing the issue, maybe they are part of the problemAnyway played any games this week?
>>96992055>Of the total complaints associated with cyberbullying filed in 2024, half of those affected are basic education students (50.3%), and again almost 3 out of 4 people affected by cyberbullying are girls and adolescents of female sex (70%).Dios mio! All of those 14-year-old Chilean chiquitas getting bullied by deranged TDS wokes. Es muy triste :(
>>96991301>psychiatristWho gives a fuck about pseudo babble?
>nuGW £19k a year soi-lord games designers throwing shade at the wholly more competent NAF who kept the game popular for a decade without official support, only for GW to come back and add in "this pitch gives one team a re-roll on a Thursday if one player has a mustache"-tier rules for whales and retardsHeh
>>96993158NAF did not keep the game popular
>>96993552Jervis Johnson himself would disagree
>100 men>world dominance
>>96991119A...are they asking me to show up to an event to "disrupt" things?!
>>96994670Seems more like they're saying that in their minds, they imagine you already did and that they survived.
These little bitches have fucked up the Go For It... sorry the Rush rule. Like they fucked up Team Re-Rolls being once per turn.I cannot sanction this buffoonery
>>96994984There's no mention of you having to use all your MA to then Rush, so you can Rush first (maybe closer to teammates if you fall with the ball) then use MA to get into the endzone with no risk
>>96976508Do the VS Tek-hunters even count when 90% of the weapons in the box overlap with the VS orginal release and one of them is so useless all I can think is that its actually for kitbashing arachni-rigs and snuck in as a weapon "option"?
>Finally start putting together the brood scrum from Hive Secundus.>Drill and magnetize one of the heads so I can swap to hive scum.>Realize all the models have bare arms so I'll either be left with blue armed hive scum or tan armed brood scum.Hmm. Conflicted on what I should do. Anyway, what are good hive scume/brood scum loadouts considering the 40 credit limit they give you?
Does this general still share pdfs?
>>96991301>>96992055You do realize CDS is just as prevalent among MAGA and pre-MAGA, right? I've picked up military sci-fi novels written over a decade after the Clinton presidency only to have the author go on a random insane screed in the middle of the book.
>>96995391Yes, people just stopped keeping regular troves since James and spiteful tards kept taking them down, but if you ask nicely for specific stuff people will still share.
>>96995421>anyone right of me is crazyGet fucked.
>>96995448No, anyone who is this new is an invader.
>>96995448I know the trove went down it was more asking if people still did the odd file or if the general just directed to the pdf share thread. It mainly in case anyomne had a rip of BB season 3 as usually some anon would have an upload half a week before release.>>96995460Less a newfag and more Ive not been in the general in over a year and I was used to gettign files for TOW and HH where a gofile is used.
>>96993552It was quite literally what everyone with any interest in BB was directed to, including being utilised for tournaments during the time. Sure you can argue that BB itself is what kept it popular, but NAF is what kept it alive as a cohesive community and living ruleset when official support was dropped.
I know we eventually got a scan, but did Bastions of Law ever actually end up with an epub? Is it now official that GW has stopped doing those?
>>96995448Can James ask Mega owners to delete PDFs? I'm asking since I'm keeping a lot of Necromunda related stuff on Mega, but I was thinking to switch to something more independant.
>>96995822Yes. Anyone can file a DMCA against it. It is why you don't share any real trove of stuff around unless you can live with it getting nuked. And why if someone asks for something you upload it separately and link them to that.
what are some cute little automata that could stand in for ratlings?
>Agi 1+ now changes your target value to 1 for agility tests>d6’s can never be modified below a 1 now>only unmodified 1’s always fail, ergo, if you have Agi 1+ you suceed on all Agi tests on a natty 2+ regardless of modifiers because the floor for the modified roll is 1>this includes interceptsJeremiah Kool is gonna be pure rape with agi 1+ On the Ball and blodge, pretty epic GW!Vampires should just rush statup on all their players, they have a 3/8 chance of becoming cracked cage divers and laughing at the hypno nerf.
>>96996708Didn't this happen with ward tests for lizardmen stegadons in the last edition of Age of Sigmar? They swept several tournaments because the thundering herd formation was literally unkillable?
>>96996708GW assured us that this is what the players want.
>>96995362They count. They're still a standalone plastic kit that took up design time, had a mould paid for taking up one of SDS' plastic allocation spots, and cost time on the injection machines.
>can't tell the difference between legitimate rule changes and accidental errorsBravo GW. Why do pigs want them bringing back Specialist Games when they're wholly incompetent
If they do not expedite the re-release of the Enforcer Weapons & Upgrades Pack I will begin stalking and killing Age of Sigmar players and their families.
>>969968722nd edition Bastilodon. With the right set up it had save of 0+.You still could fuck him up with mortal wounds and high rend units, but the average chaff couldn't touch it
>>96997876I hoped they fired the motherfucker that made the editing mistake. Because assholes who didn't give a shits working on these games are costing GW millions.
>>96997902I hope they didn't, for the exact same reason.
>>96997902they're making them more. hell, that's how we ended up here. back when GW employed people who gave a fuck, they made a lot less money than they do now. as the quality of their games and writing has continuously declined over the last two decades, their profits have only gone up and up.the lesson the market has taught them is that you can't make a game so bad that GW players won't buy it.
If I wanted to run a Malstrain corrupted gang using converted Admech Skitarii Rangers (lots of tentacles and extra niddy bits, think freaky science experiment gone wrong), which gang would those models be best at representing?
>>96998336Venators. Gives you most options. maybe Goliaths since the gene smithing allows you for modifications too.
>>96998336Delaque : long rifle, plasma for ranger, and can also use Rust stalker as Nacht-Ghul.Although rust stalker is on 40mm base, while Nacht-Ghul is 25. Rebase them, or consult with your group.
>>96998371He's a daydreaming failure. There is no group.
>>96998336>>96998371Also fun fact : Delaque original aesthetic for the new game is them wearing coat similar to Skitarii (and the new 30k skitarii) and it's an homage to their Necromunda 1995 trench coat look, but due to budget and inexperience, they changed Delaque into grandma closed coat with weird ass pose. They had a chance to change this with the Nacht-Ghul kit, but they decided to keep the grandma aesthetic. And people only get the open coat "Delaque" years later with the resin Whisper Merchant.
>>96998353>>96998371Thanks for your input, Venators seems like the obvious one since it just gives you generic statlines and rules. I'll look at Delaque too, but I feel like using a house gang as a base might be a little WAAC, since you'd be effectively doubling up on special rules.>>96998376My group plays mostly BB and other larger scale wargames. We've got two dudes who have had Necromunda gangs for a few years and are itching for the rest of us to do a campaign with them, so we're looking into it. I like the look of the Malstrains cause I play Nids in 40k.
>>96998432Venator is not part of the eligibles gang for Malstrains. It also clashed with the entire premise of a Venator gang : bounty hunting, becoming Corrupted turn them outlaw, and made them unable to sell captive and earn bounty.
>>96998414Eh, I think it's a pretty good kit all told. It's definitely more flexible than the earlier ones.
>>96997902No they aren't, you'll buy it anyway.GW could announce a product release with a big speech detailing every error and cut-corner and finish it off with "Buy it you little faggots" and you'd still buy it. How do I know? because you're complaining about them when the superior alternative exists for free and you choose to ignore it and shit on it whenever it's mentioned.
>>96994984I don't see any difference to before. I know a lot of the BB playerbase are severely reading impaired.
>>96999485Oof, 3rd grade reading comprehension much?
i heard AG 1+ is broken now, what page of the Blood Bowl manual says so?
>>96994984Why the fuck is it called Rushing now? What was wrong with 'Go for it'?
>>97000647Renaming everything means that noob paypigs can't communicate with grogs?
>>97000662Besides the Agility/Passing split has BB16 onwards actually added anything of value to the game or has it all been unnecessary positionals to sell new kits, excessive and overly specific special rules, and changing existing rules for the sake of change?
>add "random skills">try to make it so you can't just fire players who randomly get shit skills>they've actually broken Blood Bowl team recruitment accidentallyI'm sorry but these people are thick as fuck and you are too for looking forward to this
If someone is playing wood elves in Mordheim and they made custom terrain that they add to every board so they can deploy 3-5 inches above all of the other terrain available at the store, are they being THAT GUY? There is someone doing that in my current campaign
>>97000980>made custom terrain that they add to every board?????Yeah that sounds like they're being cheesy
>>97000702>has GW followed their post-2010 business model?The answer is always yes.
>>97001005I framed my question as neutrally as possible to get an honest answer but I knew it wasn't cool. I don't think they have lost a game or more than like 1 model since the first weekend of the campaign.
>>97001050Yeah they're simply not playing the game in the right spirit at all. The campaign GM needs to take them over to the side for a little talk.
>>97000980Given every scenario tells you to take it in turns to set up terrain pieces and THEN determine which table edge the players deploy on (usually either with a roll-off or randomly) it sounds like he's just blatantly cheating.Playing any elf warband is also a red flag, though that's on your GM for allowing them in the first place.
>>97001060I have some bad news for you. They are the GM.
>>97001073He builds deployment towers in the standard legal way but has enough to fill each side. He is the only ranged warband so it doesn't matter if you have your own deployment castle. If you are lucky you can build enough middle stuff so you mostly don't get tabled. Also if you hide his witch can teleport 10" away and reveal you while being unchargable.
>>97001074Fucks sake lol. Rest of you need to mutiny then.My club is very chill and we have great boards
>>97001105>witchOne of the most notoriously broken hired swords in the game. Given everything else you've told us about him it seems pretty clear that he's a total powergaming faggot, I would highly consider getting as many of the other players as you can to break away and start your own campaign with blackjack and hookers.
>>97001159These are very nice boards
>>97001174>>97001159desu I don't have the energy and the next week is the finale then in a few months everyone gets new warbands and a new run. I am annoyed enough to skip the finale and I will think about if joining up again is worth it when I see the next season warband picks
>>96998414>>96998505A little bit of bitzbashing between Monstrous Encounters' two House Umbra sets(nustyle heads, oldstyle bodies) with a bit of sculpting work(to cover up the washboard abs and tweak the shoulder area to be more duster-ish) would get you pretty close to the new concept style if you find it appealing. Also they're normal human size to represent normal humans instead of being retarded eight foot tall ghouls run by a secret alien fishpeople gestalt hivemind that lives in the core of the planet, so bonus.
>>96976208>Middle-Earth Strategy Battle GameTolkien is garbage!
>>97000980>>97001050>>97001074>>97001105>>97001232Lol sounds familiar
>>96999641Ok I'll bite. Where exactly did they fuck up?>>96996708No where does it say that, it still gets deducted due to tackle zones, it just "ignores" one tackle zone as still being 2+. Holy shit, no one can read in the BB playerbase.
I've never played Necromunda before but offered to be arbitrator since I have a stack of ZM terrain from 30k. I'm reading through the rules still and trying to wrap my head around everything. One of my buddies sent me this Venator starting roster and I have no idea if he's power gaming or not. I thought ogryns couldn't take any shooting weapons so I have no idea what allows him to take them.
>>97003034The answer is a solid kind of. Taking one Ogryn Champ to make a specific build to use a cool model is one thing, taking a 2nd shows intent. Especially when he is taking 4 cheap Ratlings just so he can do that. That being said it sort of depends on what other gangs he will be facing as to whether that is going to be a massive deal or not. But I would think that given what he has shown he intends to abuse the Venator potential if you let him. Venator equipment options are based on Racial/House background when hiring, for which Ogryn get the Ogryn Boss from House of Chains, and set Rarity from the TP to also choose from which is where you get Ogryns with normal weapons as an option. Choosing to be Artbitrator without knowing the ruleset or playing before isn't really recommended, though if not one else has played either then it is what it is.
>>97003034>>97003081Oh wait he is just taking them as Hunters (which are Gangers) just so they are 20 points cheaper. Which is another red flag overall. And also means spamming the Ratlings isn't necessary to meet composition requirements and is instead intending to overload with cheap spam instead of making real Gangers. Not to mention also capitalise on their Slopper ability right out of the gate.
>>97003081>Choosing to be Artbitrator without knowing the ruleset or playing before isn't really recommendedI only offered because a few of my friends got burned on another campaign (the arbitrator was an LGS employee who got fired and banned). None of them have played before so hopefully it won't be too bad.Should I try to talk him down to just one ogryn and get him to diversify?>>97003102Does the amount of bodies matter? Venators don't have a way to bring on more dudes like Cawdor so he'd just have a bunch of chumps and no way to field them all.
>>97003125You should ask him for a cool story to justify why he has clearly minx/maxed to fit very outfitted Ogryns into his gang. One Ogryn would be fine since everyone has a Brute slot to start so not like we are really into abuse territory at that point. But 2 and then the Ratling spam is a serious indicator that he is going to min/max further if/when given the opportunity. At the very least he shouldn't be running something like that to start. 1 Ogryns and 2 Ratlings is kind of the max I would personally allow at campaign start unless they are arguing for playing a specific theme or models in which case they should be tempered other ways. He doesn't necessarily need to have a higher model count, but it should be less apparent that he is just trying to min/max. Remind him that N23 isn't really meant to be played competitively win at all costs and should be more of a casual entertainment between friends.
>>97003155He does actually have fluff to back it up. Basically, he wants to play a magos biologis sent to study the Malstrain. The ogryns are going to be converted automata using kastelan parts and the ratlings are meant to be recon servo-skulls which would be at least resistant to whatever the fuck is happening in Secundus.
>>97003191It is good he has a story for them, but it is still a little iffy. If you get him to drop the Flak Armour on the Ratlings and make the 2 Ogryns into Champions that will be the same points and means he has to at least sort out some more Gangers going forward before he can reliably start taking more Champions. It would probably be worth getting him to abide by not buying more Ogryn until later into the campaign when general power levels between gangs are worked out. By all means he can replace them if they die with more Ogryn, but you really don't want him taking a ton of them otherwise.
>>97003270I'll limit him to the 2 starting ogryns then since it'd make sense that he wouldn't be able to construct additional of these higher maintenance bots but could maintain the ones he has. We'll talk about the rest of the changes to the ratlings and changing the ogryns to champs too. Thanks for the help anon.
>>97003284Yeah overall just keep an eye on him. Given you are all new I don't assume any malice on his part, but N23 is something that can go from fun friendly group activity to friendship destroying power gaming pretty quickly if not kept in check. Otherwise have a fun time and enjoy running into a bunch of rule checks and debates until you get familiar with the system and agree on interpretations, intent, and house rule fixes.
>>97003034>I have no idea if he's power gaming or notWell this is a complete newbie list. With no champ and spamming flak armor. If that's all your concern is at.
>>97003034If someone has 4* of the exact same thing, that's power gaming
>>97003495>having 4x shitty juves is power gamingwhat did he mean by this
>>97002881Am I crazy?
>>97003191That actually increases my suspicion somewhat lol.One piece of grace I was going to extend him that the conversation hadn't yet brought up was that he might be trying to keep kit costs down. You can get two Ogryns and four Ratlings from buying two kits, but if you want to include other mans you're going to need to buy a third kit of something.He's clearly doing efficiency min-maxxing and it's probably worth having an early convo about it. How many others are in the campaign?Also fwiw I totally disagree with the person who said it's not recommended for a new player to Arbitrate. There's a thousand-year-old basement gamer tradition of each group having their own "the rules guy" (or forever DM). When y'all wanna try a new game somebody has to step up. If you make mistakes or misunderstand something in your first outing it's just part of the deal, as long as you're not tyrannical towards your group members.
>>97003730>He's clearly doing efficiency min-maxxingThat's a shit list with suicide leader, orgyn shootin, no champ, no smoke, and Arc welder is using price tag of augmetic fist.
>>97003762Then rephrase: he's clearly a noob who does yet understand the game attempting to do efficiency min-maxxing
>>97003597Nah, it's really hard to deal with and annoying. I dont know if I'd perscribe malace to it but he's certainly not very apologetic about it and stuck with the strategy every game. I can't imagine it's very fun, especially not when no one wants to fight against him. Even the standin warband that's meant to help new or low level players is pretty archery spam focused and uses similar strategies. I could see us blackjack and hookersing our own campaign another time. I'm probably going to skip next campaign to play other skirmish stuff though.
>>97000975The new costing discourages random skills - they cost the same in terms of TV now so you can't take random in one league then rehire the ones who rolled well more cheaply for the next tournament.As a Dark Elf player, I think we might be fucking boned. Assassins are slightly better, but not 'lose two blitzers' better. Having tried a league with a single box the difference is night and day between two blitzers and four. I guess everyone else is in the same position but it still sucks they just gutted half the teams for no goddamn reason.
>>97005308There's a very simple solution:Don't play it, don't buy it, stick with the LRB
>>97005462I'll definitely wait for errata at least. I'm open to them patching it but when they make the same dumb mistakes over and over again it does get kind of frustrating. Still got our 2nd ed league to finish so we're okay for now.
>>97005499>mistakesThy are not mistakes. They would only be mistakes if the intent were to release a working polished game that is fun to play.That is not the intent, the intent is to rerelease the rules with changes so you have to rebuy them if you want to keep playing in the GW store or GW events or with anyone else who is a GW consumer paypig slave.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/h2qdou5l/an-adventurers-guide-to-warhammer-quest-darkwater-the-basic-rules/Some basic rule for new WH Quest. Shaped dice ditched. Characters can't die, they just turned into a friendly zombie that can't do damage but can hold the enemy in place for the still healthy players to attack.
>>97005551Oh there's shifty changes for sure but stuff like the 1+ stats being busted is pretty obviously not working as intended.
>>97005603>as intendedAgain, that is determined by how many people buy it, not how it plays.Here, anon recently spelled it out in detail.>>96981168
>>97005696Oh I see, milk the idiots that buy up ag 1+ models then redact the rule? That's pretty scummy and basically why I stopped playing 40k. Takes me ages to paint a squad and then a month later it becomes obsolete and another new thing just so happens to release and, wouldn't you know it, it's OP as fuck.
>>97006911It's been almost 2 decades of this business model, anyone still falling for it deserves it.There is 3D printing for cheap high quality minis made at home and free community curated or designed rules, noone here needs GW to be involved and many don't want GW involved.
>>97007324I seem to recall the fan rules had their issues with being a bit random (I specifically have bad memories of the kickoff table absolutely annihiliating my team) but definitely not as bad as "Fuck your dark elves, buy a new team."Thankfully we just play local leagues so can just use whatever version works best.
>>97004581I don't really think it is malicious either, because he seems convinced that each of his games is a nailbiter where he barely makes it out alive
>>97008720>because he seems convinced that each of his games is a nailbiter where he barely makes it out aliveIt was real in his mind
What are the best 40k 6mm rules?
does anyone have a trove for Warcry? It seems like warcrier scraps outdated rules even if they haven't been replaced cities of sigmar is missing wanderers and such
>>97009388The new Cities PDF's were explicitly meant to replace the original 2nd edition Cities rules from the Compendium, it says as much in the errata. Still it's a shame, I know Warcrier used to still host the old version with a "not intended for matched play" caveat at the top of the page, but I guess Servo Scribe decided to remove it. Shame.Luckily I'm a compulsive rules-hoarder so I have a near-complete collection of Warcry content on my PC, just missing scans of a couple WD issues. I'll see about finding that PDF for you when I'm not busy, hang tight.
>>97008720I mean if we can actually get to his forces without everyone fucking dying we can supposedly slaughter them easily because they can't fight back in melee, but the beaches of normandy bullshit isn't worth the losses.
>>97009388>>97009736As promised:>https://files.catbox.moe/bsoglt.pdfOriginal>https://files.catbox.moe/ubdrtl.pdfCompressed
>>97009975>I mean if we can actually get to his forces without everyone fucking dying we can supposedly slaughter them easily because they can't fight back in meleeNah that's some BS, all Wood Elf heroes have good WS and their henchmen have average WS, and as elves they all have excellent initiative so they're almost certainly fighting first after the first round of combat. A good chunk of their spell list is also decent in melee. In close-quarters they're a notch below the dedicated melee blender warbands like Beastmen but they're at least on-par with everyone else, and better than many of them.>dude picks one of the strongest low-grade warbands>happens to also recruit one of the most busted hired swords in the game>makes objectively incorrect statements about his warband being bad in melee to downplay their power levelI smell a lotta horse shit coming from this guy.
>>97010082This is just making me angrier because I would LOVE some ranged support in my melee warband and welves that arent shit sound really, really fun. Small comfort that he'll probably get ganged up on like crazy in the 3v3 finale fights.
>>97009975>>97010136>>97010082I am in total agreement. On a different note, do people consider Mootlanders to just be sling spam the warband and no fun, or is there a way to play them that is fun for everyone? Maybe their Stunned on a 2-4 rule and T2 make them easy enough to kill that the sling and bow spam isn't so bad? They look like fun models but I hate to invest the time if they just make people mad
>>97002529Man, Chinky Manpurse really is a complete fanny eh.
so in necromunda, do you rip off the weapons of your leaders/champs as the campaign continues and you upgrade them or do you just not adhere to wysiwyg?
>>97011204You made a models with 3 weapons and stick to it. Or you made multiple one for the same models if you value aesthetic. Champs and leaders play their archetype, most of the time you don't need to change weapons for them. In case of Juves and prospect, they could definitely use another models when promote.House rule allow weapon discard changed the dynamic of a campaign, without weapons discard you need some forward planning, with weapon discard it became pile of discarded stubguns. What i like is using a mixture of both , when Juves/Prospect promoted you are allowed to discard weapons once, normally you don't.
>>97011244I meant more for the start of a campaign. Say if I just gave my champion a chainsword, would it be a good idea to just model him with the chainsword and the plasma pistol I plan to give him when the opportunity arises?
>>97011258You made a complete model and don't accidentally forgot that you didn't have X weapon yet.
>>97011283Thank you, anon.
>>97011258As long as the models are unique and identifiable, my opinion is that you can kinda go for whatever - who cares if Jimmy Orlock the melee Champion is modelled with a Chainsword, if he's got his Power Sword loadout on, that Chainsword just so happens to have Power Sword stats this fight. Same for the Plasma Pistol - is it a Plasma Pistol? Is it a Bolt Pistol? Who knows and, frankly, who cares, as long as the model can be picked out of a lineup and looks cool.In short, unless you're a turbo-autist, WYSIWYG in Necromunda is bullshit and should be ignored.
>>97009108>>97009108you're gonna get different answers to that because preferences, but the best intersection of "high quality" and "possible to find players" is undoubtedly Epic Armageddon. that was the 4th edition of the game that came out in the mid-00s and stayed popular even though GW stopped supporting it.the core rulebook is the same basically everywhere, but different tournaments use different sets of legal lists. the biggest and most widely used ones are NetEA and EpicUK. they're kinda similar but differ in details of organization and some stats.>tp.net-armageddon.org/>epic-uk.co.uk/wp/army-lists/a lot of casual events will let you use lists from either pack.there's also an epic armageddon 30k pack based on the HH books that EpicAUS made a few years back but it's only balanced against itself.
>>97012029Thx anon
>>97002529Mieville has always been an insufferable champaqne socialist
>>97011288Is that fucking Shadman
>>97012029Has anyone created Xenos lists for LI yet? I always preferred Space Marine/Titan Legions to Epic 40k/Armageddon but agree that the clunkier special rules could do with a trim.
>>97012820Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long long time.
>in every single promotional picture and article the blood bowl status markers are stainless steel>they're actually plastic and they painted them to look just like stainless steel in the picturesthis is fucking bullshit, why didn't this box have any star players?
>>97011288Personally I try to keep the weapons within the same category.Pistols are pistols, regardless if they are autopistol, stub or las.While heavy weapons should be heavy.Same with special. Mind you within reason. A stick counting as a random melee is fine, stick is a power weapon? that is stretching it.
Is there a PDF floating around for new BB? Want to give it a read over before committing.
>>97014500Or you could just look through the last 3-5 threads to see all the leaks posted and see from those alone that it's garbage.
>>97014551I’m just wondering if someone has a compiled copy that’s easier to flip through on my break. Idc about the quality cause I’ll just play the last edition if I don’t like it.
>>97014590The leaks as they have been presented are as spoonfed as you're going to get, lazy fuck.
>>97014666Clearly a healthy response to a question, having a great one Anon.
>>97014744>you're insane if you won't shovel the information into my faceYou're a pathetic faggot, kiddo.
>>97014767What do you see in the image?
>>97014801>I am too lazy and stupid to write out my own opinionsUnsurprising, faggot.
>>97014810My opinion was “Is there a compilation yet”. Which you seem to be sperging out about for some reason. I’ll go through the old threads later.
>>97014810What about this one?
>>97014909go back to /v/ faggot zoomer bitch.
>>97014896>I’ll go through the old threads later.and the whole time you're going to be grumbling about how you shouldn't have to look through the archive for yourself, that some other anon should do that for you, summarize it and hand it over because you're somehow too good to have to do it for yourself.
>>97014927I never said that, are you sure you don’t have brain damage? You never answered my question btw, don’t be embarrassed
>>97014937No one is clicking on your asinine videogame screenshots, faggot.
why do people constantly try to run xenos in necromunda?
>>97015080Wanting to use the models mostly. If it’s like one Kroot or something in an outcasts or Venator Gang I don’t mind it desu.
>>97015080Squats and GSC got included so it's only natural for everyone else to want their dudes in the game as well, also original necromunda has rules for everything up to and including chaos marines.
>>97015080Eh, Kroots and some elf escaping from the tower of the stranger wouldn't be too hard to represent with Venator rules. If they actually bother with WYSIWYG-ing their gear, I'd even say it would be neat.
>>97015080People usually just have models they want to use, and there is usually flexible enough lists to represent them. If they do an Eye of Selene box/book/whatever we might see some sort of Rogue Trader Landing Party gang which has some xeno profiles which would be an inoffensive enough place to officially include them. Just make them arbitrator permission similar to pure Malstrain outside of Underhells.
>>97015080Because the 40k skirmish game that includes the actual 40k factions lacks compelling narrative campaign play or deep customization options, so the people who want the Necromunda experience but with 40k factions are left to play half-baked shit like Shadow War or homebrew/proxy for Necromunda.
>>97015080>>97015807>>97016229There are Orks in The Skull.
>>97015080I did have one idea for a Venetor Gang with an Ork called Mr Krump who everyone just sort of agreed to pretend was just a green skinned abhuman, because he was cheap and did good work.
>>96976208I'm considering expanding into Kill Team, how well do squats tend to perform?
>>97016915There're a /ktg/, but it does look like Yaegir (trench coat squat) is the stronger one with 1 placing 14 in world. And no one pick the Salvagers squat out of 132 positions at world.
>>97011867This. Pistol + melee weapon or heavy weapon makes sense.The specific weapon modelled isn't important as long as the type matches. If they say plasma pistol + power sword and the heavy is a heavy bolter, you remember it easily when you spot the model with matching Loadout types.It's only shit if it doesn't match and is hard to track, e.g. 3 gangers modelled with lasguns, but rulewise one is equipped with a melee Loadout, one is a special weapon and one is normal etc.
>>97013379there have been some half-baked attempts. but Legions Imperialis basically IS 2nd ed space marine with the serial numbers filed off anyway. the biggest difference being LI doesn't implement the titanicus rules at all, it just flattens the titans in to big tanks. so there wouldn't be much point. you can take the fan continuation of 2nd ed>https://netepic.org/army-books/and depending on what you wanted to do, either play the xenos books in legions, or play your legions army in 2nd ed. there's cards for the odd HH marine and guard armor floating around for 2nd.
Post blood bowl models. Also critique my dude
>>97015807GSC make sense, the fuckers even have a foothold in Terra.Aslo Delaque are just aliens larping as a house. Like GSC are Tyranids larping as humans.Same with chaos, random chaos cult are a thing almost anywhere.But shit like tau? It's pushing it. I could maybe understand a single Eldar in some random gang or mercenary, but an entire eldar gang is pushing it.
>>97015080Mostly because 40k 10th and Kill Team are not wargames. So people end flocking to the only GW game set in 40k with somewhat updated rules for the wargame experience.Because their other options is to play older editions, Shadow war or herald of ruins; but since the average 40kfag is allergic to older editions or a proper wargame they wont do it.
>>97019089Being honest, I don't even see things to nitpick on - great work, man!
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Speaking of xenos in necromunda, is a haemonculus reject who got stranded and left for dead finding a foothold in some fuckoff hive city too retarded? I was thinking of him setting up a ghetto flesh smithy in the bowels and sending out his vatslop to scrounge up more creds while he preys on some of the weaker chaff. This would be more of a campaign bbeg more than a playable gang.
New Mordheim rules and models in our lifetime :) <34sy0g
>>96981393Why weren't the Nomads pay2win then? Or the Malstrain? Build your argument over solid and consistent proof you insufferable underage faggot. I had a stroke reading through your posts
>>97019954Considering all the other nonsense the Fists let run around on one of their recruiting worlds... It's a bit out there, but not inexcusably so.
>>97020375We shouldn't indulge the trolling boomer, although I empathize with the impulse to correct his horrendously stupid claims. But he's lonely and wretched and will continue to troll for attention.
Could the concluding campaign book for Newcromunda be paving way for a new edition and possibly a soft reboot with more emphasis on noble houses?
>>97020375Nomads was about selling vehicle kits to a game that doesn't have anything to do with vehicles, it's why the custom rules use that GSC mining truck as an example.
>>97020615>Nomads>the one gang who can't even use vehicles>selling vehicle kitswhat did he mean by this
>>97020409Please no, Necro is the one GW thing I still really enjoy
>>97019089I like your Frankenstein. Here is my Grashnak. Got beat 0-1 lately by my friends Nobility and out for revenge!
I see that many streamers are looking at a Blood Bowl Season 3 rulebook in PDF format. Could someone please post a link?
>>97020615Ash Wastes and vehicle rules go back to oldcromunda, nogames nomodels midwit shitstain.
>>97021076The Ash wastes do, insofar as being mentioned repeatedly in the lore as a literal kilometres deep layer of toxic ash covering the uninhabitable surface of the planet, but that's all.>t. open Oldcromunda PDF, ctrl+F "vehicle" 0 results.
I'm retarded what bb team should I play. Is passing or rushing easier?
>>96983329Unironically there's a guy that makes [pic related], although he actively tries to avoid sexualization.Depends on how much work (and money) you're willing to throw at this, but apart from the obvious 3d print you can go with replacing the chest and parts of the arms with Kairic Acolytes (smaller width of shoulders looks a bit better on females). Pair this with some of the angrier looking escher / sororitas / helmetless stormcast heads. You'll have to greenstuff some muscles on the neck and make the armor and the weird harness on the back, but it's not really that hard, especially for 10 models.
>>97021377>tries to avoid sexualizationCoward
I really like the bretonnian team, but some of the other changes to the teams seem asinine. Humans might get re-rolls but losing two blitzers hurts. It feels like they just hit a bunch of just ok teams with a nerf bat. Orcs were oppressive, but they still play better than black orcs which really need a movement buff to compete. Chaos dwarves somehow got even worse.At least most of the people I play with are cool with just using the old chaos dwarf, human, and dark elf rules/roster.>>96986117>>96986332This is pretty true. Saw some discord faggot try to dox someone using a model that only looked similar over a minor disagreement. Fuck, even a few GW empolyees, like that community manager, doxed people before.
Why are retards doxxing people over models? They think they are prints?
>>97021720Terminally online. They really want you dead, jobless, molested and not necessarily in that order just because you do not play along with their current delusion. For example our local 40k group till this very day has regular meltdown from terminally online folks regarding numbers. Bunch of people in there are about to reach 40. So some where born during the late 80s, as a result some people had emails with "juan.perez88@email.com" since they where born in 1988. The local shicozos that spend too much time online started bitching about muh numbers and their secret meaning. Since we are from South America, unless you spend too much time online or in places like this the odd of knowing that 88 would have other meaning is 0.Something similar happen to an emergency number in the subway that was 1488, no one care but the terminally online trying to boycott and protest the subway an emergency number that telecommunication agency give to the subway.So yeah people will see your posted models and if you say something they do not like. The retard will try to hurt you in some way if they can connect those models to you.
>>97021835It's why discussion and opinion posts should never be attached to posts of your work, basically post as 2 people, one who only posts models and painting, another who only talks about stuff.
>>97021720You've answered yourself. They are retards
>>97021094Awwww, the little faggot doesn't have all the PDFs. How sad.
>>97022076>cont'dAwww, the poor little nomodels doesn't actually know the history of the game he claims used to be better.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Necromunda_Magazine_Issue_3
>>97022106>cont'dHow heartbreaking! The little Dunning-Kruger nostalgia piglet wasn't actually really there! He never really enjoyed it! All he has is a projected LARP of other mens' memories, and that makes the rest of us saaaad.
>>97022184>wasn't actually really thereAnon, 90% of fa/tg/uys are in their 30's. Suggesting that we weren't playing teen/adult miniature wargames when we were 5 years old isn't an insult like you seem to think it is.Oh and if you're talking like this in your 40's or 50's then you failed at life.
>>97022212>Suggesting that we weren't playing teen/adult miniature wargames when we were 5 years old isn't an insult like you seem to think it is.You know that makes veneration of those times like 10x more psychotic, right?
>>97022236Tell that to any historian, mouth-breather.
>>97022076>>97022106>>97022184>an optional magazine sourced supplementFuck anon, modern necromunda has it in the core rules. You really oughtta stop and think before sperging out.
>>97022326>t. historian of miniature skirmish games
>>97019089Star players are fun to paint, even though I don't really like fielding them.
>>97022393So are you, or are you admitting to being 50 and still acting like you're 15?
>>97022339>>97022446No goalpost moving, samefag. Eat your medicine up.>>97021094>The Ash wastes do, insofar as being mentioned repeatedly in the lore as a literal kilometres deep layer of toxic ash covering the uninhabitable surface of the planet, but that's all.>b-but not in the main rulebook>b-but you're acting immature
>>97022466>age isn't relevantThis applies to the games too kiddo.
>>97019954Realistically it isn't hard to justify there being 1 or 2 of something on Necromunda given there is a very active Cold Trade and other smuggling of various success. Wouldn't put it past a RT to do a sneaky orbital trash dump completely forgetting what he put in the trash. Stasis is also a thing and there is no telling what was built over during the repairs post-Heresy. As long as you can come up with a reasonable story as to the how and why it managed to get on planet the rest is pretty easy.
>>97022498You're not even offering complete thoughts at this point, retard.This entire discussion stems from a dumbshit claiming Ash Wastes Nomads were to sell vehicles in a game that has no vehicles, a lie that ignores 25 years of history. You may actually be that dumbshit yourself, which is why you're now spitting incoherent non-sequiturs to move further from your initial purely ignorant schizo statememt.
>>97022519Necromunda is an ork infested tomb world home to chaos cults, a space marine chapter and genestealer cults in addition to having the ubiquitous xenos friendly spire, so it's open to every mainline 40k faction.
>>97022540>the vehicle rules addition to the core rules isn't about selling vehicle kitsLol.
>>97022540anon the nomad shaman mount is a "vehicle" in the rules, nomads do have vehicles...
>>97020409Doubtful. New campaign setting sure but the core rules probably won't change given N23 which was the last consolidation of everything core since N17 is only 2 years old. There also isn't much they would need to add/change to the core ruleset itself that would make it worth a whole new book. So unless it is going to be GW being GW I don't think it will happen.
>>97021094Bro the Ash Wastes Nomads had an actual Specialist release back in the day. Actual models and metal weapon sprues.
does mordheim have rules for monsters like warcry?
>>97022541All of that delusion is just misidentified mutants or weather balloons or sump gas. Xenos don't real.
>>97022595Not really barring a few very specific cases. Unless you count brutes as monsters.
>>97021862Yeah I usually do that. Reason why I hate things with account so much like discord or WhatsApp.They have their uses to coordinate games, but loveless heathens make them using those things a minefield
>>97022236Can't talk about old necromunda, but 40k during 3rd and 4th is objectively a better game than current 8th to 10th. Even guys that just started playing on 10th and got frustrated with the never ending FOMO and updates are having a blast with older 40k. And I have models older than them.Sometimes old is better sometimes new is better, other times it just sucks and can't be saved
>>97022612>next on Inquisitor X filesOk some Inquisitor butting heads with another Inquisitor about xenos not being real while fighting genestealers sounds funny
>>97022595There's a monster hunt scenario that has rules for a hydra, griffon, a young dragon, etc. There aren't rules for running a monster as part of your warband beyond specific big models in certain factions if that's what you're asking.
>>97022946I can actually see Ordo Xenos Inquisitors that comes to Necromunda getting paid off in archeotech to say they saw nothing. Well that or them realising the amount of paperwork that would be required given the clusterfuck of a situation on Necromunda and just nopeing out since the at least the current ecosystem seems balanced at the moment. I do wonder if Lictors have managed to make it to Necromunda only to get ganked by local fauna or accidently killed in a drive-by, or just hunted and killed for food by sump hicks thinking it was some sort of weird sump croc.
>>97023133>Lictors have managed to make it to Necromunda only to get ganked by local fauna or accidently killed in a drive-by, or just hunted and killed for food by sump hicks thinking it was some sort of weird sump croc.kekthose are fantastic images
>>97023190Just imagine one psychically screaming into the void>Mom come pick me up I'm scaredAnd then some psychic squid underground screaming back>Shut the fuck up I am trying to sleep
>>97023339That lictor in it's thigh boots and long gloves is going to be too busy biting a concrete block while a burly sump roc pounds it out.
>>97023385>Lictor blending in Necromunda as a street walker>everyone just thinks shes a disgusting abhumanshe has a surprising amount of clients though
>>97023405That reminds me of the genestealer hybrid in one the Caphias Cain books with long arms and legs that hide that fact with some tiger/zebra looking tattoos.The hybrid was a prostitute if I recall correctly, easiest way to spread the genestealer kiss if you ask me.
>>97023405I mean you put that lictor next to an Escher and I can't tell the difference. Women are abhumans as far as I am concerned.
>>97023800>Women are abhumans as far as I am concerned.based
>>97023133>I do wonder if Lictors have managed to make it to NecromundaI think the Hivemind deliberately avoids necromunda because they want nothing to do with the malstrain fuckups hanging out in Secundus
>>97026217>planet so fucked up beyond belief that the Hivemind goes "yeah we're just going to ignore that one"lol
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