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Inaugural set edition

Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Earthborne Games
>Riftbound
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1.00_2.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq

voice chat for playing /acg/
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP

>Previous Thread
>>96929184

>Thread Question
Have you ever loved a card at first sight before you even played it?
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Two things to note for Hubworld: New Card Frames and rebalanced cards with more strength being the direction. Capricious informant is back to his good self again. They changed the card faces after many claims it looked unappealing. I'm not sold on the white myself but it does pop more with the comic art style
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/bgg/
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https://gamefound.com/en/projects/altered/seeds-of-unity
>9 hours left
>Not even $950,000 raised of their $3 million goal
>"W-We're proud of the community support despite it not meeting our financial goals guys, we'll ship out what we can"
Not surprised they had to backpedal and release the set like they initially promised but man $3 million to fund a single SET????????
Logistical fuckery going on if they're in the red despite crowdfunding $900,000. Just how much are you printing? Surely there can't be THAT much demand.
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>>96983786
Either they were trying to pump up their numbers to wow people or more likely they were trying to pay off bills.
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>>96982761
>>96982773
But how can you trust me to hide a card that can be hidden and not just hiding a time warp or something and then you don’t realize? Or what happens if you do?
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>>96980762
The short answer is yes, they go back to 5000.
You dont even activate the effect, it's static, as long as it's your turn and this character is in play your Five Elders get the pump, given his protection it usually wont happen but if he somehow gets removed via a trigger or KO effect the other Elders will lose the pump right away too.
You are thinking of "Activate Main" type effects, which would still need to be used during your turn anyway even if you could somehow play the character during the opponents turn.
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>>96983890
>You dont even activate the effect
I see, thanks. I didn't know that this was passive.
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>>96983300
I'm surprised they changed the frames yet again, I really liked the second set. It's whatever. >>96983248 This is probably the first non ugly design I've seen of a character from RBG and it's still pushing it lol. I MAY late pledge if only because this shit will not be avaliable in retail for like 5 years at this rate.

>>96983786
>"While the total final funding did not fully cover every single budgeted operational cost for the long term, your mobilization has been so successful that we want, in return, to meet your commitment with our own."
KEK this is so fucked up, this is where we would all make fun of altered players for the next 6 months but the problem is there simply aren't any in this thread or irl. Imagine backing under the knowledge that they'll refund you if the game is gonna die soon and then they just fucking hoodwink you anyway
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>>96984059
>surprised they changed the frames yet again, I really liked the second set.
I'm personally not a fan of the redesign myself, but I'm not going to ignore that some of their water color style art does practically frame up nice on a white canvas. The biggest issue for me is finding sleeves that will work with the white edges rather than against them. Honestly the cards that work worse this way are the seekers, because they had background art before and now it's just white wash. I think even capricious informant got his yellow backdrop faded into white... that seems counter intuitive to commission art only to cover some of it up with bright negative space.

Apart from that I'm glad they are beefing up value of some cards because at the end of the day you only get two copies of each one and a max 36 card deck, of which 6 of those are agents. If that's the case then each card really matters rather than being to fill up your deck with good early game plays ramping into late game big stuff. From turn one you have to be able to defend your agents, and getting a bit stronger cards gives me some peace of mind.
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>>96984557
Jayko being unchanged is a bit sad, probably the seeker I vibed with most mechanically but the payoff is dogshit
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>>96983880
Because otherwise you would be a cheater. We'd inevitably find out at the end of the game or when you lose that battlefield. Then you would lose. Then you'd probably be taken out the back.
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>>96984635
I'm reserving judgement until I see the whole cardpool, most of all what other Seekers can do. I too like his card design but feel like there's not enough ways to sidestep the risk placed on your head for the very little gain you pointed out. Maybe there's more ways to play with this than we are aware?
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>>96984739
Yeah I'm not sure, I missed the window to apply for playtesting so no idea what's in the wider set. Maybe there's some stuff in purple that rewards you for having a high heat in the first few turns of the game
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>>96983248
Damn, third week of Riftbound and my store was SLAMMED in attendance again. Maybe I'm just drunk on the hype, but it feels like there's actually something solid about this game and it isn't just fotm shit.
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>>96983880
Infernity cheaters already invading a new game
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>Go into enemy turn with resources
So 00 is going to be about action timing commands. That definitely won't get annoying quickly. Gotta get teh YGO audience or something I guess
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>>96983880
What would be the point of that? You have to reveal it in order to get the effect.
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>>96983880
>"how can you trust I'll follow the rules"
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>>96983643
/mentalretardation/

Head to head Living card games are card games. You're anal-annihilated over the co-op RPG game by the same card company. Your pooper-pained expression is thus irrelevant and pathetic.
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>>96977283
I'm glad I listened to your advice and picked up Kobo for 13 bucks
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>>96985272
nta, but it is kind of baffling we still have EBG separately in the OP from Hubworld, despite that being the only LCG they make, and not doing that for other publishers (even when it's stuff that is arguably much more in acgs bag like summoner wars, codex, exceed, etc)
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>>96985675
EBG is an agenda pushed by a singular autist not willing to accept they're unwelcome, much like the trannies they extol. I saw the dev in the comments of a random board game review unrelated to them too so I wouldn't be surprised if they're the ones posting about it directly either.
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>>96984899
Good gameplay helps a lot
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>>96985272
Why don't we have Arkham Horror or LotR in the OP?
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>>96985037
That already exists now, academy does it a lot
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>>96986119
Official: They're more board games than card games.
Unofficial: Not enough big titty waifus
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>>96986119
Their absence does not preclude them from being discussed here. Same with any other card game. Six years we've operated like this.
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>>96987341
retard
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>>96986119
We don't have Little Troubles in the OP but that card game is still discussed here sometimes
It doesn't really matter what the semantics are
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>>96984955
>tfw the skill difference between me and the winning Infernity player at locals 10 years ago was the will to slap a monster in the backrow
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>>96987773
There is a pretty clear distinction between a card game and a boardgame that uses cards, but sure, I suppose you can also choose to just be a moron.
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Been wanting to try smt other than pokemon, looking at One Piece and gameplay seems kinda cool with Don, wanted to try Riftbound but lol at there actually being any stock of anything rn

OP has what, two years of life? Seems popular enough but I wonder if it'll stick
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Nice meta, I think I'll skip it.
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>>96987773
>We don't have Little Troubles in the OP
A glaring flaw that we should rectify.
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Next set is a supplemental set
Fab is literally saved now.
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>>96988571
It will feature powerful reprints (fables and generic legendaries) as well as supplement cards for every class that will 'call back to old mechanics in a new way.' There's also a golden pack inside every box that will feature special treatment reprints called antiquities. Since they are doing new art and frames, they're reprinting a lot of the most expensive stuff. They're literally nuking the collectors market by offering new chase versions that make the old stuff look lame by comparison.
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>>96988054
OP is so fucking bland. Negative flavor. But it's one of the more serviceable bandaislops.
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>>96986119
EBR shouldnt be there, sadly the Earthborne Leftist Troon stays up all night to make sure xe can grab the new OP and shove it in
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>>96989195
Playing OPTCG but shaking my head the whole time so 4channers know I think it's bad
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>>96983300
Looks gay as fuck
Pass
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The weight is over.
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>>96986119
The new coreset looks like they learned a lot from the last decade and props to them for not filling it with dei shit like they have been
Theres something really weird about playing foreigners and trannies while walking around early 20th century New England
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>tfw draft sets are getting phased out for other products next year
Hope the next one's a banger. Thankfully Super Slam has some pretty crazy variance going on with the deck building in limited. But alas, those limited events at major tournaments are being swapped out for Silver Age.
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>>96989511
There's a literal tranny card in the new core set tho? If the leak that daniela reyes is in the new core set too she is a lesbian sooo..... lol
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>>96989675
>weakness is body disorder/mental illness related
>default fails any interactions with most story characters because lovecraft
Would be funny
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>>96989648
Ah yes, the old "give even less reason to open packs" play. Because there are always more whales, right?
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I like the art and style of flesh and blood. Shame about the gameplay though, I just can't get into it.
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>>96989648
>Limited events being swapped out for poor mans fab
KEK this game is dying as fuck then, there's literally no way fabbies can defend this. Already in my area there are many events that just fail to fire these days so let's see if fab makes it through 2026
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>>96991008
You're seriously that shortsighted?

>reducing the cost of the game and making it more accessible for newcomers to the nearly 7 year old catalog of cards (biggest public complaint)
>devising a format unanimously accepted by new and old players that has a sub 30 dollar buy-in for competitive decks (second biggest hurdle)

What they've done is ensure Flesh and Blood lives on for at least another half a decade. But yeah, lmao, that's going to kill the game before they roll out an already planned schedule of releases for the coming year. You sure know best, Retard Kun.
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Duema saikyo
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>>96991511
When you're right, you're right
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>>96991511
jotc will ruin it just like mtg
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Hero on left = CC, Hero on right = LL. Here's the hero spread that's doing the best in the world championship.
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>>96985037
oh shit I love mill decks
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>>96992023
It'll be fine as long as they never release it in English again.
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>draft abandoned
>reprinting fables
>next set is BOOK themed (schizotransmission = FAB WILL BURN)
>20% price hike on boosters
>desperately raising prize pool to prop up attendance
>new format literally named after decline (there's a reason it's not GOLDEN AGE)
>PLAYER VOTING for the banlist
>putting all the value into box toppers that can be skimmed
>over half of 2026 products aimed at monetizing existing players (armory decks sell old heroes 2 new cards for $60)
>LONDON
Yeah, I'm thinking it's OVER for real this time.
Where were you when FaB was kill?
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>>96989492
>fancy frame
>highly similar artwork
>done by a bigger name artist
Reprints are needed but honestly I think this might be the gayest way to do it, and I'm mildly annoyed.
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>>96993909
That is like the 4 or 5 time that FaB died
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>>96993909
wait theyre raising the price on boosters?? why
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>>96995083
Because there are now NINE (9) cards per pack instead of fifteen (15).
LMAO
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>>96995185
wait what?? theyre lowering the amount of cards in a booster pack but raising the price?? are you trolling
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>>96993909
>(there's a reason it's not GOLDEN AGE)
Because rares and commons are blue and grey? Also young heroes verses old ones, their golden age coming later?
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>>96995291
>>96995214
>Ooh no guise, I'm gonna OVER REACT. I'm REAAACTING!

It's a homage to the very first supplemental set. You also open 3 cold foils per box, on average, reminding me of Everfest. This isn't a draft set that needs to be loaded with chaff. I believe you get minimum of 3 rares every pack now, so few cards but way way more juice. Also with 8 legendaries their drop-rate will be very high as well. You also get a free golden pack with cards worth hundreds of dollars, so the value for this box is off the fucking charts unprecedented, second only to signed James White cards.
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Are Riftbound prices down yet?
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>>96992323
In a recent stream they played it with english proxies. I wouldn't be surprised if hasbro's desperate management has a plan to revive it in the west to make even more money
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>>96995325
Everfest as a set sucked ass if you weren't a finance fucker.
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>>96995427
Cope. It was designed to be a grand carnival, complete with prizes to win from the rigged games and strange carnies plotting revenge for clearing them out. Everfest was highly printed, giving everyone a ticket to the greatest show on earth. I thought it was based of LSS to be generous with the cold foils.
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Death to Flesh and Blood
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGv0jMDqHAI
Found this gem. This will show you how well it's doing in Japan. Apparently Tunics go for upwards of 24,000 yen? That's 155.81 USD. That's pretty good for singles value. Azalea mentioned. The auto translate is what it is, I think he was saying he's an Azalea main, referring to her as an Ex wife meaning she's LL'd and not in his life anymore. I feel you, brother.
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>>96995847
>huge clearance sale
So it's going badly and FaB is OVER in japan too?
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>>96995622
Inshallah
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I feel like I’m playing rift bound wrong? The game goes by way too quick if you get a point for every time you win a showdown and also when you hold one in your beginning phase? Like every game feels like it’s over pretty quickly like before you even get to a 3rd of your deck, the game is pretty much over and you barely did anything besides when a showdown or 2
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>>96995972
>playing rift bound
eeyup, huther's yer prahblem
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i watched the professor's video on riftbound and that game looks boring as shit
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>>96995878
Why doesn't he get a job
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star wars unlimited is a fun game, lorcana seems to have failed near me.

where were you when disney was kill?
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>>96995427
>Everfest as a set sucked ass if you weren't a finance fucker.
Yeah! Everfest was loved by finance BROS. Those fucking CHUDS.
It was bad for us players but FINANCE FUCKERS loved it!
FUCK RUBY and FUCKFAB AIEEEEEE!!!
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>>96983248
office lady
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>>96996396
That's what I seem to hear a lot. In some communities, it's dead, while others are chugging along just fine. I haven't been able to play for a while, so I hope my local is still doing ok. I'm excited to build some new decks with all the Whispers cards I got.
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>>96995972
It's a game designed to have 3 finished in under 50 minutes, that doesn't sound like it's too bad.

Also remember the 8th point scoring is different.
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>>96997304
Like I feel like that final point thing doesn’t even matter. Say you guys each hold 1 battlefield each every turn, at 6 points that’s 6 turns and then you do your big turn and get their battlefield, that’s 7 points and then they can’t really do much bc they wasted all their cards on that last turn, and they would have to get both battlefields bc the next turn, you will hold one of the battlefields and win. So the game basically has to end in 9 turns at the latest. Is that not how it works?
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Absolutely disgusting (frame)
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>>96997961
Explain to me why six years later and they can't come up with a sidegrade to spring tunic? All that time and they just keep pumping more out. The creators have publicly lamented this card's shitty wording in the text because it's the only card in the game with a missable upkeep. For as long as the game has existed players have chronically forgotten how it works in tournaments and beg to roll the missed trigger back. What the hell is the design team waiting for? Their 10th anniversary Tunic that is sold with a wearable costume? What's the god damn hold up?
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Behold the savoir that will free Gundam from Blocker hell.
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Why isnt Calm(Green) Ahri banned? You instant win if you hold with her at only 6 points
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>>96998291
Because you still have to hold with her at 6 points?
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Alright, I played a good amount of the new One Piece Format.
It's absolutely crazy how they gave Imu everything.
>Shits out 2 blockers
>Rush that reduces power and a character that K.O.'s to make sure your opponent never has a board
>Endless card draw and defensive events
I planned on going to the LCQ/finals next month but I guess I'm taking another break instead. Gonna play sorcery with a friend and I think I'm going to give Riftbound a chance.
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>>96989675
Presumably there were some black people kicking around its not super unreasonable
That pic does look like an elderly man in a dress though lol
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>>96995446
literally no one liked everfest and the set bombed and now they waant to run it back at a higher price point? are you insane?

>oh but ill get my cold foils

You're going to buy a box of 10 cent rares with a little flashy visual in the hopes of getting a 100 dollar one that will never appear. People did the same shit with everfest before realizing a set for everyone means the odds of you getting anything you want is worse than 0. And you can't even draft with it so it's not even usable for game nights.
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>>96998006
They tried, but all of them are just not as good as tunic. Is simply one free resource on every three turns i. Other Tunic sidegrades usually destroy themself to give you a resource. Tunic does not. Granted, you don't see tunic now as much because most classes have a better non generic option, BUT if is not the best card in X situation, is simply good enough, and moreover than not, IT IS the best card.

The easy way to fix this would be to ban tunic, but is generic, people want it, and is not really a problem right now. So is a bit like ash blossom on ygo.
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>>96998630
I liked Everfest.
>You're going to buy a box of 10 cent rares with a little flashy visual in the hopes of getting a 100 dollar one that will never appear.
Yours truly opened the cold foiled fable. I enjoyed the opening experience all the way leading up to that moment as well. There's lots of people who have fond memories of Aria block. Ironically no collectors like Everfest, and I could honestly care less about what they think.

If you guys want to watch peak secondary commentary on FAB, watch this. I am still not fully convinced this isn't satire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9nnhFvKqbY
Enjoy, my friend.
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>>96989479
Saw OP jp boxes in for way under 1/2 of EN price. Worth buying?
For casual play
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>>96998116
>Unit already mentioning hallelujah also
Well that means the lockon twin magic eh
Wonder if Ribbons/Amuro will happen.
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>>96998291
retard
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>>96997961
Absolutely disgusting (shaved pits)
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>>96997961
I don't like most of the extended art equipment.
Having the focus be the actual item is better, I think, than zooming out to see the full waifu.

>>96999051
>doesn't play
>mad because he lost $2k chasing free tendies
>paid $400 PER BOX for monarch
Oh, huh. Well I don't think I'll listen to any more of this. What's his channel like?
>metazoo
>anti-rudy schizo shit
>sports betting and pawn stars
>16 years of prior videos about every "it's not a phase mom" he's ever had
Jesus Christ, how embarrassing.
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>>96999587
You missed my favorite

>collectible surge can leaked sticky syrup all over his shelf and onto his first edition booster box, and he left it sit for a year before throwing the box away and checking on the contents
>opens an extended art herald of erudition and one of the only good other Ls Cold Foil in the set
>if he opened them back when this game was taking off he could've made a fair amount of his money back
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>>96998116
>blocker hell
All I ever see is OYW rush to the point I stopped playing. Games a snooz
>I dump my hand before t3
>me too!
wow!
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>>97000050
OYW rush was the most represented single deck in Dallas top 32, but it comes up as a somewhat anti-meta deck after a long run of blockers which were still most of the top 32 It's just that they are broken up into things like Wing blockers or Freedom blockers so "OYW" was the most common deck, but cards like Lfrith were in like 20 of the top 32 decks so blockers in general are still the meta. With OYW winning Dallas, you'll see it at your LGS for a bit but it's struggling into ping so netdeckers are gonna drop it soon.
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Dash and Cinda fans, you're now world champion hero mains. Hope you enjoy this moment while it lasts, ya aggro lovin' gits.
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Does Riftbound have any kind of simulator?
I'd like to try it out at least
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Is Lorcana still around? I have some rare cards from the first set, wondering if I should just sell them.
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>>97000998
>LL Mrs. Fish is beating Chane in quarterfinals
Damn, what a time to be alive.
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>>97001118
Yeah art of war combined with heroes that like to draw is a hell of a drug
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>>97001118
also she had tipples on full power along with swells, so that really is the difference maker to have a competitive edge. She needs more consistent card draw to work and death dealer is one of the best draw engines around.
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>>96988787
>>96989492
>"Mom! I want to play Hearthstone with physical cards."
>"But honey, we have Hearthstone at home."
>the Hearthstone at home
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>>97001036
No, Riot actually copyright strikes every simulator that pops up
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>>97001087
Yeah it's decently popular in my experience
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>>97001841
that's fucking retarded
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>>97001841
>>97001036
>>97001914
the OG simulator came back its just no automated anymore.
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>>96989492
If LSS were player conscious they would've rereleased Fables/Legendaries as majestics then again later as uncommons. This wouldn't hurt the rare ones while also making it accessible for more players because let's face it, these expensive cards are required for the meta. The fact they've constantly been pulling different kinds of rare schticks almost every set is evident they don't care about players. James just wants a suitcase full of rare cards he can sell when the going gets tough.
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>>96999170
You can't use japanese cards in official events in the west
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>>97002457
I still think it's dumb that that's the standard for JP card games.
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Still can't find Riftbound anywhere near me...
Probably going to have to wait until next year
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>>97002469
No it isn't, I don't want to have to ask a judge to read off the official card text because my opponent is using gook cards and is an autistic freak
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>>97003328
Everyone has all the cards memorized anyways and you can look up the official text on your phone
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Rumors for another optcg ban announcement on jan 20th
7 cost imu stage and 8 cost whitebeard event most likely candidates to get hit
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>>97003624
Sound like the right picks to me, although I think 10c WB might be the one hit since they are printing a new WB that could replace it.
The Throne must go or they would have to errata Imu so it can only choose to start with Marijoa and then you could play the throne regularly later.
Both decks can still play fine and it should really open up options for other leaders to be playable.
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>>97002469
It's to protect the Japanese market.
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>>97003343
>you match up with a dude that takes 3 minutes to look up each untranslated card
>this is before the time he takes to get through his analysis paralysis and finish a turn
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>>97003343
>Players may not use electronic devices during a match, including cell phones. Smart watches
or similar items which can send or receive messages must have messaging features disabled during a match. Players requiring electronic devices for medical reasons should speak to the Head Judge prior to the start of a tournament.

Official bandai tournament rules
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wtf is this shit man

https://nullsignal.games/blog/standard-balance-update-25-12/
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>>96988571
teacher i'm confused, is this CRU2 or EVR2?
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>>97004956
Bryan Gottlieb said Fab's all time greatest demand for any product came in the form of Dusk Till Dawn. I'm sure the hot two new waifus had a small part in that, but truly it was a great chase for the serialized original artist sketch cards. They're paying homage to the supplemental sets of history but they want to repeat the smashing success of DTD most of all. By reprinting fables they have pretty much guaranteed this set will sell absolute gangbusters. Since it is a set designed to help launch silverage, they're going to print a mountain of it.
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>>97001036
tcgarena or tts are your best bets.
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A man of fine taste. Congrats to the new world champ.

Duo format best of three is highly interesting, but LL is very much a wild card of possibilities where as CC has a curated meta. Imagine if they did this with draft as the alt format.

Do you think Fab best of three is a good idea in general though?
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>>97006973
How does that format even work with two decks? Do you have to play three matches with one deck or do you get to change decks between the matches?
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Why did they write Your Turn on this card? It looks like it only has an On Play ability and not one that you can activate in every turn. I don't get it.
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>>97007348
If I had to guess it's so this leader can't cheese it out with a trigger that says "play an [X CARD] from your hand" (whether a card like that exists idk but i'm sure that's the intention for keeping it on your turn)
Good thing too otherwise there'd be a blue ace leader with a reliable way to stay at 8k+....lol.
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>>96999612
He pulled the coal foil though. Use to carry a lot of weight before, that was before the good hero LL'd. It's outright banned today in CC. He had a window he could've sold this, probably would've made back one of his boxes.
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>>97007501
>Good thing too otherwise there'd be a blue ace leader with a reliable way to stay at 8k+....lol.
Yeah, I'm trying out the ST22 deck for the first time and it makes no sense like that. I guess I'll try it in the simulator. Thanks.
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Been doing some theory crafting on my blue/purple deck to figure out most optimal deck i can bring to the newtype challenge this saturday. At this point, blockers in themselves are not as huge of a threat to me
>4x amuro
>4x fatal strikes
>1-2 nahel argamas
>flood the board
in itself, works pretty well. I've been running vanilla gundams (the 3/4 GD01 version) just to cuck wing zero players at the end.

What I'm consistently coming up short on is basically red pinger decks, because fuck, I just don't have good answers to a lot of this
>All range attack
>Haman
>marida

and I'm not sure if it's just a strat problem, or something else. So it puts me in a bit of a deckbuilding bind.
>Do I try and keep myself topped up with vanilla gundams that can tank pings so I can recover against LE WING ZERO MAN if my early game is bad
>do I drop ryusei graze go
>should I just try and run more rezels to go faster, at the risk of losing them all?
>is anksha just overrated?

Open to any suggestions, I'm not sure if I'm just misplaying against those comps, or something else.
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>>97007727
Play a different game
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>>97007868
I like this game
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>>96983248
>Play Riftbound constructed
>Actually have a lot of fun and see a lot of neat decks I actually want to try
>Place 3rd and somehow do better oal than the Kai'Sa player who gaped my anus
Is this game... actually good?
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>>97008170
Yes, but it needs more sets ASAP.
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>>97006973
In a top 8 of worlds? Sure. More generally? No.
Not everything has to be bo3 and I like FaB best when it's a single game with enough turns to cycle your deck.
Transitioning to bo3 everywhere would necessitate design speeding the game up even more to keep events viable. I simply don't want to play 3 turn FaB. More games does not equal more better.
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>>97007727
Post deck, but at a glance I would think you are simply not turning enough cards sideways. You must unga more bunga. Doesn't matter if you leave your unit open to getting killed, just get the game over with. You fixing on a level 8 like you are means you are not finishing matches at the pace of a Blue/X aggro deck, basically all of which struggle into ping to answer your question in an unfortunate way.
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>>97008170
>>97008264
Kai'sa is not free wins if you're prepared for it

Lots of retards are playing it thinking its free wins, but that's Yi.
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>>97006973
I was asking for BO3 Blitz bring 3 ban 1 but my friends shit on the idea. Works for Dice Throne.
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>>97003624
Sure would be fucking nice if Bandai would use the banlist in their other games.
Their inability to get rid of problem decks in a timely manner has absolutely killed this game.
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>>97004378
Explain, I'm only familiar with ffg cards. Whats going on with the NS meta?
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>>97008723
Just like the real game
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>>97008630
Makes sense, this is the main core I've been playing with. Few variations of interest for me...

Additions:
>Run a few GD01-001 gundams to get some good draw mechanics in
>Run some 3/4 regular gundams, just because they wall some stuff like fatal strike or other bullshit
>more ankshas

removals:
>Maybe drop a rebake for 3 rebakes
>3 fatal strikes instead of 4
>less ankshas
>run 6-7 2/2 GMs instead of 8
lots of decisions
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>>97007348
There's also some cards with Trigger:play a card from your hand
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Worst Riftbound Legend other than Teemo?
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Anime card games look kinda wack. You just have a character standing there, looking over their shoulder or sitting down, and they're not really dynamic or interesting at all. Half your deck is boring chatacter portraits.
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>>97010124
Garen
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>>97008170
I don't even understand how you get into it.

https://piltoverarchive.com/decks/view/9defb83b-d2a3-40bd-89aa-bf520b0d31b2

I was just looking for a reanimator deck, this deck is easily a thousand dollars.
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>>97009539
I've tested a very similar deck to this and it's indeed pretty great. I had one less GM and one less FS, adding another ryausei go and another show of resolve.
I honestly don't think you can improve it that much to protect it from RB ping. Just accept that it's a tougher matchup and a price to pay for being better against decks with blockers.
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>>97010712
Is this game ever going to be affordable?
I'm trying to break out of Bandaislop and finally play something else but it's hard to beat games where you can build any deck you want for $100 or less.
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>>97010266
I like the one with a full background at least (preferably not abstract)
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>>97010712
>>97010724
It's because despite them printing a TON of supply, people keep buying it off the shelves.

It's not getting one print wave like Gundam got, it's getting multiple print waves before set 2, but it has to chill out on the hype first.

It doesn't help that since its only 1 set, all the staples are already known so you can easily price manipulate.
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>>97010712
that deck is probably more like $300
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>>97010724
It depends. If you're looking to go 3-0 and crush everyone at weeklies then it'll be quite awhile.
I play a budget Leo that has gone 2-1 the past 2 weeks, losing to the same Yi deck both times.
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>>97010745
I've added only 12 cards and it's already at 250
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>>97010818
I'd assume that's with all the expensive stuff. There's only like 10 cards in that list that over $10 and only 4 that are over $20. A lot of them are under $5.
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>>97010745
invert timelines are 80$ each, seal of fury 50 each, etc
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Posting another Trinity Draft preview with the Hellpriest Armageddon. This one uses OverCount: a conditional effect that becomes active when you have enough Trinity Counters. When Armageddon dies with 9 counters, so does everything else. You get 3 for playing him so it's decently easy to set up, but the effect does feel like a liability. He might be instead worth playing for a card draw and the raw 4 Break damage he has, tied with only two other previewed cards. If you don't need the board wipe or a beater, his Break effect destroys the most expensive Unit a player has, too.
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>>97010936
That's fair. I was just taking a quick glance on TCG player and didn't realize they were showing the price for the chinesse versions which are much lower.
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Is there anything to Oshi Push? It doesn't look good, but I'm morbidly curious.
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>>97010266
He's standing there alright
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>>97000822
my entire LGS has been nothing but OYW since the second week. All the wing and freedom dudes dropped the game a month in and havnt been back probably after sitting there losing before they can play a single card. Sometimes I bring ping just to sweep but ping also loses to a fast OYW hand so feels bad. OYW mirror can be interesting but still gets boring.
Only playing still because packs sell for $7 each and boxes are still $$ so can gonin and sweep on a tuesday night for a easy $100-200 while relaxing at the LGS. Genuinely bad game right now and its losing players at the various locals in my big city every week but so did OP and its still "going strong" so who the fuck knows.
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>stores are turning their backs on Flesh and blood because it's inconsistent with product demand, highly competitive focused so that means singles are volatile and newcomers struggle to break through that barrier
>next year the very set and format is dropping to address all of those concerns with a commitment to making it more available than ever before and low cost to start competing
>it will only be embraced by those devout Players that have been around through the tough times

This is actually sad. Nobody wins now. You took exactly one year too long to right the ship, LSS...

https://youtu.be/hNt6hHYlmR0?si=D7zXKYGT-m-4zumZ
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>>97010715
Thanks anon. I may make another change too, but I think I've figured out the strat.

I just need to go...really fast. Realizing that GD01-001 gundam is worth running a few copies of to get some fun miku and barbatos ping + 2draw. I may add an extra ryusei go, but I hate building a complex chain of "make barbatos work" when I can just have some extra bodies. I discovered I can definitely beat it, but it gets a little spooky. Hard to know when I should trade with the kshat or qube or just keep slamming shields and hoping for the best. I've noticed everyone is running 3-4 close combats now, and battle of aces. It's so hard to fight that.
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>>97011008
Where can I read translated rules?
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>>97012879
Honestly I'm not a big fan of the GD01 Gundam, there's a reason it's $2 at the moment. I feel like for a real aggro deck 12 units at or above level 4 is a lot, especially with Resolve and the pilots. There are like 3 stores around me that have real Gundam scenes and I only go to 1 but the people who visit all 3 all agree that for some reason the other 2 stores are meta slaves and the one I go to is almost all pet/rogue decks and there's a guy that does pretty well with a white base repair deck and he's gotten value out of that Gundam but even if you wanted to keep your cost/level curve the same I'd go Delta Plus instead, or I'd also consider Unicron mode Banshee or the other Rebake.
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>>97013211
eh, I do like the Delta plus if I was running a different comp, but I like GD01 Gundam because it gives me some extra utility with mika. Because as it stands, I only get a link with Barbatos 1st form (or ryusei go graze i guess but that's a last resort). I didn't feel like I was getting as much value out of it because barbatos first form is such a suicide bomber at the end of the day. Nobody is gonna just let you do whatever you want, so you're either gonna get blocker'd or you're gonna get traded with next turn if you swing at base, or you're trading and getting a card out of it.

This gives some extra juice to the deck because I can get a ping and a card draw with pretty little risk, and I can proc a barbatos without the link. Kind of attractive. It's been feeling pretty good thus far. If I was gonna drop it, I'd probably just run more rezels over delta plus. But I think this gives me the best shot of not gassing out on cards which is nice. I've found going first is pretty rough, but Corsica being 3 cost level 3 is a pretty good card to look for when I go first.

Might go tits up, but I've been winning pretty consistently well on zumbosim with this deck now, so i might bring it to some locals and see how it goes
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>>97013508
it ain't much, but I think I'll run 2 ankshas so i can run 4 gms and 4 grazes
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>>97011106
I pulled a serialized card out of a 100, and i have no idea where I can go to sell it.
there doesn't seem to be much of a community around it, which is a shame?
At least not one I can find at all
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>>97011106
It's got similar mechanics to Spycraft, and I think that my few games with it have been generally positive. The subject matter is kinda cringe since it's specifically Phase Connect and phase connect memes, which means that it appeals to like 2000 people globally right now.

>>97011008
Been following with this, hoping to get some fan translations going to play amongst my friends. Is there any existing translation effort for this game? I'd rather not spend time doing something that's already being done by people probably more competent than I am.

>>97001161
LL Marlynn isn't running DD, it's purely Hammerhead because you need to be able to activate the conditions on the harpoons to disrupt properly.
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white blockers are so strong right now that you cannot attack into them unless you have board advantage. their curve is so good now that they've added this card, and hyaku shiki to a lesser extent. every game I play where white is involved (9/10 games), there will inevitably be multiple consecutive turns in the midgame where nobody attacks despite having multiple bodies on board. it's funny how green has the only good board nuke to stop this, but it also synergizes the best with it.
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>>97014433
audios, ricardo dias
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>>97014472
actually has 15 more on-rate blockers like a boss
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>>97014668
I think the hard thing to overcome with white blockers is not really them in themselves. I think the hard part is overcoming freedom blockers, specifically. Because Kira is just such a bullshit pilot, and sword strike is just too good. Freedom's stat line is too good for what it is, too. Combine that with all the bullshit card draw options, it really becomes one of those things that becomes hard to fight. I'm playing blue/purple right now, and i've pretty much solved blockers as a concept, because it's pretty easy to get board control, slam out an amuro and a fatal strike, and just start swinging and pinging.

Kira links like Freedom or Sword Strike is always a suit i have some issues against though, because I don't have any boss tier cards that i can do anything to it. So I've either gotta ping it to death or trade another link unit with it. Not ideal.

But otherwise, I don't think any other white blocker combo is really _that_ good because so many white blocker faggots think they can just ramp up and won't trade, won't attack the base, so when they start getting fatal striked or close combatted, they fall apart pretty quickly. That's why I don't think red/white is nearly as good as something like blue/red. Because a comp that can ramp up and just keep swinging like that and stop any board control absolutely decimates something like blue/purple or a rush deck. If you play white blockers, you've gotta be willing to take some swings. If people would do more than drop rick dias out and just sit on it, I'd probably lose way more often, but they never do. But jesus, I don't know how a blocker deck survives kshat/qube/all range attack/close combat/battle of aces
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>>97014776
if you swing into blockers while they have board advantage it is not possible to re-establish advantage. not saying it's an insurmountable archetype but it's fucking cancer right now.
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>>97014827
Oh for sure, you are correct, but white blockers don't have much to show beyond "we have board advantage with blockers!" meanwhile, if you let every other color have the freedom to just setup on you for an extra turn. I agree that it is, in the grand scheme of the meta, and shuts down something like "Aggro" pretty fucking hard (which is a good thing), but I don't think white blockers are as scary as people make it out to be.
>purple fatal strikes clown on it
>red all range attack, close combats, aces all fuck it over
>green breachers just assfuck the HELL out of it because wing executes them and shenlong is even worse for them
>blue can rest the hell out of them, and GD02 gave blue some nice tools to trade blows with them, i usually can ping a sword strike to death
I think the reason white blockers do so well is because people want to unga bunga against it. It took me a while to figure out consistent strats to win, I admit it. But you've gotta be willing to take an extra turn to setup when you see a white blocker land on the field, and you can usually be rewarded for it.

Don't get me wrong, it's still total ass cancer and a total crutch for shitters, but the biggest mistake these decks always make is just presuming their ramp up is better and they can just chill. If you can resist the urge to swing, they will buckle really quickly,.

As a random aside, I beat some white blocker players at my locals recently and they started bitching about how broken amuro is after I won, kek.
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>being able to block is considered cancerous
I will never understand the mentality of Bandai players.
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>>97015333
It's a modern card game thing. People these days think any form of player interaction stopping you from just masturbating on the table for 20 minutes is "cancer"
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>Going to bandai finals/LCQ
>One Piece is trash right now
>Thought maybe I could learn one of the other games since its still a month away
>Gundam is the only one that you can't get tickets for anymore
Damn, I know digimon sucks balls too so dragon ball is the only option left. Whats fusion world like?
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Does Lorcana have a decent scene? How is it to play? I see the cards on sale everywhere and there seems to be a couple of tournaments up in my area but I know absolutely nobody who plays it and have never seen it played.
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>>97015333
it's the fact that white is far and away the best at it, and it's kind of a big fucking deal to be able to block.
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>>97015380
Going from what I've heard here, the Lorcana scene seems to be feast or famine. Some people report that it's completely dead, while others claim that it's popular at their local store. I personally enjoy it. It reminds me of playing in the early days of Magic before the game got too bogged down and cash-grabby. I also find that the player base is a lot more mixed in ages and genders, but still has enough obnoxious tryhard white boys to not make it feel TOO alien. Again, if you've played Magic, a lot of the rules will be familiar, but there's enough differences to make it feel like a fresh experience.
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>>97015473
This extends to all kinds of card games really. If only one 'type' of card is good at things that can easily win games (such as drawing, playing, negating and destroying) then it means the other types are worse by extension. Really all card games need to either make all card types capable of doing these sorts of things, or to not build around these kinds of concepts at all. They will inevitably become troublesome for the game otherwise.
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>>97015380
My local scene is pretty sizeable though it is mostly obese 30 year old women and their small children
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>>97015370
Digimon is great, but its basically vanguard with better management and a mana system
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>>97015883
they have been adding blockers to other colors, and also they have revealed some blocker hate for the next set. I doubt the meta will stay fucked up like this for too long.
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>>97014950
I take back what i said, fuck white niggers and fuck blockers
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>>97016367
I told you!
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>>97016398
Sometimes you just gas out. If there was one card I would nerf, I would nerf overflowing affection. it really should be a 2/2 card, and it's maddening that it isn't.

So I'm just being salty, but i basically just got dicked hard here because i didn't go fast enough
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Is not that much, just that 95% of players in the two LGS I go run 24+ blockers, see is not a problem at all
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>>97010728
Game?
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>>97018194
Echoes of Astra
It has monsters, robots, scifi vehicles too, not just anime characters
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>>97016588
What game is that and can't you build specific decks against that?
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Hmpfh... fine! i'll check back on fab again but this better be the set that ties everything together
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>>97018363
It's kinda fucked mate but this might be the last good set, if they manage to pull this off

>focus on less bulk more hits per pack with slight cost increase
>the commons and rares are designed to support Silverage with a bevy of options, most importantly something like 60 new armor pieces in total to db with
>It's a true supplement set so no supporting a new hero &/or class taking up a high number count, every class has stuff to be excited for
>most legendaries they're doing in one set, half at least are reprints however
>chunk of fables on offer, finally non curling ones
>There's LL'd heroes advertised on the package, means they could launch alternative heroes for the fan faves (dromai, azalea, oldhim, aurora, lexi)
>promises to focus on OLD mechanics and bring up their support to the modern card pool

The last one has me so fucking hopeful they could actually solve a long standing issue with the game. They haven't supported Aim since it was introduced for instance, so the hope is at last they will print cards that incentivises building with those cards rather than pushing new keywords that are silo'd in their set. If they seriously pull zero punches I'm going to stay in the game. If they drop the ball hard core I'm thinking I'm out. This is a ride or die set for me then.
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>>97015333
the game essentially only has 6 life so every blocker is +1 life and only 1 color has a ton. Really though their stats are worse then most other colors that rush and its just those idiots complaining.
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Fusion World FINALLY getting a ban list announcement on the 24th
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/en/news/01_330.html
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>>97019422
Glad for ye

I kept hearing how this and that was too prevalent, so hopefully this opens things up.
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>>97019422
They also put out this hype teaser for FB09
https://x.com/dbfw_cardgameJP/status/1991084034634531040?t=rrAOuEsaA8QFJ3iWoy19dA&s=19
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>>97013114
Nowhere yet. I haven't had the time or will to sit down with what we have. It's three-way DueMa with a pregame draft and a different win requirement (take 12 life). Everything else is built around that.
>>97014266
I don't know of one. I just take previews and make a pass with my ham-fisted Japanese knowledge. I wasn't even fully confident on 'Hellpriest' up there since the priest part isn't a direct match. It could have easily been envoy or official or any sort of word meaning representative of a divine force. Shit's hard when things get flowery with the titles.
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>>97002373
>>97002373
>This wouldn't hurt the rare ones
it would absolutely hurt the rare ones, and the game at least from LSSs POV. being exclusive and inaccessible is the point. James has made multiple statements over the years that are aspirational toward FaB being like mtg legacy and vintage, where cards are highly desirable, expensive and hard to get.
FAB literally designed the rarity scheme around creating that artificially. it's like the game's whole sales pitch to investors. instead of waiting 20 years for a legacy format to become expensive organically, you supercharge it by putting cards everyone needs at 1 per case. reprinting the shit at uncommon would make that pointless.
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>non-purple control continues to underperform
>best win rate on Lorcanito is Amber/Steel
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Wanna hear a joke? Wonders of the First
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It's not a joke because nobody got it.
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>>97022174
Just like the card game lmaooooooo
Rotting on store shelves, not even scalpers want it
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Can someone redpill me on metazoo? Did people get memed into thinking this was gonna be the next big thing?
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>>97022305
Not only did they get memed on, they were told it's back and better than ever, this time they mean business. Sadly it's all completely fallen flat and no stores I am aware of in the area will touch the product or run games for it.
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>>97022269
None of my stores fell for it so it's more that its just sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

>>97022305
First game to get big off the backs of stimmies, owner was more interested in creating a brand than a game, rudy types and actual manchildren are the only ones who were interested in it basically. 2024 tried to relaunch but they removed one of the main things that made it memeable game-wise (the meta effects) so all you're left is a poor shell of a game with gameplay downstream of MTG and Marvel Snap.

>>97019830
Shame, looks like I'll have to do the same with Google Translate and a poor understanding of Photoshop then.
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>>97022751
I think the insane part is $70 starter decks
Like what the fuck man. It comes with some stones and "exclusive Mythic foil" (cover card) but $70 buy in to a game with $400 booster boxes is just asinine Flesh and Blood levels of greed
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>>97022305
>unregulated market
>unsophisticated "investors"
>stimmy cheques
>pokemon boom
It really is that simple. The male version of those makeup MLMs promising bored middle aged women $10k+ per month.
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>>97022305
I guess one thing people didn't mention is the original's gameplay is literally just random bullshit go and for metapootwo they paid richard garfield money to create a completely different game kek
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>>97022305
It was a reskinned Magic the Gathering with the aesthetics of Pokemon and the gameplay of Hearthstone
For what it's worth the diaper change card was my favorite because it applied to me lol
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>>97023896
I maintain that committing hard to the autistic watercolor artstyle and the real-world effects were the two good ideas of Metazoo. Yes it was still a shit game and a cash grab, but those two things have unironic merit.
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What's the consensus on Grand Archive.
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>>97024125
Never played but it looks fun enough from a casual perspective. Also, the recollection decks are some of the best stand-alone products I've seen out of a TCG - super nice.
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Grid combat

What do we think about it?
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>>97024814
Never really cared for it in card games.
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>>97024814
It's not for me. I don't mind lining shit up in lanes though.
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>>97024814
I think it's more fun to do zonal combat, like Doomtown, but then there's lanes like an anon said. Really the only one I know is star wars unlimited, and at times I wish it was exactly one more lane besides two... Grid however, I genuinely love tactical game play, but the cards have to be doing something clever with it in order for me to be excited about that. Never played sorcery, bet that's nice.
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>>97025734
>zonal
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>97010712
That's only because seals & Invert Timelines are the most expensive cards currently, you take those out the deck is like $50, and honestly you can take or leave them for discard/draw effects
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>>97024814
depends on how many grids. A few zones to fight over is fine, but when you get large like Sorcery it might as well be a board game.
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>>97025805
I opened a couple of those on release day. How does one sell them, just go to the store and ask around?
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>>97025792
Someone makes a convenience store zone in town and your boys show up to claim it for your gang. Works better than counting out the spaces to walk to the general store, and how many dudes can I fit in its square footage. Nah, just bam, this is the zone for the store. Go to it, have your shoot out, done. It's less abstract leaning without going full simulation. Lanes are too far abstract leaning too.
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Russy just said the magic words: Soccerly Gotham is short printed

I repeat: B L O O D B A T H
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Why are there Riftbound cards already going for $300+ already? This game is brand new and could be dead in a few months.
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>>97027221
market is correcting the riftbound situation, check again
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>>97027221
The publisher purposefully put out a lower supply than the demand that they expected for it in order to create an artificial hype for the product and they seem to be shy about reprinting the first set. They seem to be pretty smart about making people want the product for the time being. We'll see if they'll fuck it all up with future sets and decide to be too greedy.
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>>97027221
There might be some collector interest given that they had to release erratas for half the cards.
But for regular play given how a fair amount of them are fucked and some packs dont even have rares, a problem that will continue for the second set I would touch the boxes myself.
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>>97027221
scalping and wild speculation has become the new norm sadly. Riftbound is tied to League so it's enough of a big IP that it just drives the resale prices higher
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>>97027221
>could be dead in a few months.
Lmao no
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I give you actual solid gold and you guys just ignore it
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>>97026095
Tcgplayer or card market or ebay.

Stores will give you about 50% of face value, while those options will get you about 80%.
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>>97027487
We want cards, not gold.
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>>97027221
>shortprinted 1st wave of product
>scalpers and investors scoop it all up like they do with pokemon
>2nd wave not coming out for another month or so, maybe even not until next year
Laughing my ass off at you thinking it will die though it has more relevance than most current games
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fab is going to blow it out of the park, i can feel it
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>>97027260
Same thing the sorcery guys did.
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after making a RB deck with 30 burst cards (12 commands, 12 pilots, 6 bases) and playing 14 maches and only seen burst happen twice in all those 14 maches I came to the conclusion that I'm cursed

how do you guys shuffle? I make 7 piles, then riffle shuffle then over hand shuffle 7 times then offer to cut
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>>97028716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE
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>>97014422
Bandai were retarded for making an inherently boring archetype this good at launch.
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>>97029271
I'm seeing like 5+ epyon blockers and then 5+ wing whenever I go to a weekly, people say this is to combat oyw but it's been like a month since anyone plays that deck
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>>97027221
>supply and demand
>plugged into a global high speed market with low barrier to entry (ebay and similar platforms)
>many people involved in TCGs aren't particularly shrewd, and have a high time preference
You're being willfully ignorant at this point.
No market in the world operates on whatever autistic codes of honor you're clinging to.
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>>97028342
yeah if by "it" you mean "fat chunks out your ass"
lmao
FABGOT
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>>97027651
>>97027487
I want gold but the chinese keep pumping it
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Had locals today, went 2-2 with Ahri in Bo1. Meta was surprisingly still diverse, smth like
4 Kai'Sa, 2 Yi, 4 Ahri, 3 Sett, 1 Miss Fortune, 1 Teemo, 1 Leona, 2 Victor, 2 Jinx, 3 Annie, 1 Lee Sin.
The Ahri mirror sucks a bit in Bo1, because it's basically who goes first, wins.
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>>97027435
I heared that the rare count issue doesn't exist on a per box level, just a per booster level, so if you got a display you're fine, you just had some packs with 1 and some packs with 3 rares.
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>>97024814
Basically chess on steroids
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RB cybernewtypes yea or nay? I like that Merida can link with psycho gundam MA and Four can link with vanilla Kshat. Should the lower end be a Jerid Titans package or more general with some cheeky Oz blockers?

Also predict the first 2 color units. Im thinking they pull it out for Nu vs Sazabi.
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>>97025792
L5R was the perfect game though.
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>>97031047
Good. Chess can be improved upon.
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>>97031339
A card game with grid combat is Monsterpocalypse with extra steps. Quite literally improved chess.
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>>97028342
It had better do a good job of fixing the class dimorphism that's running rampant in the game. I could care less what the cards are worth, I want the gameplay to be the best it can be. Absolutely insane we have new ranger plus a tenured one and neither can stand on their own two feet, especially up against the all mighty triangle meta. Fix your shit, LSS. You got us into this position.
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>>97031179
>RG Saz : char's green & the sinaju's red so
>BW Nu : same pilot reasoning then block-ability
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>>97031179
Im trying a very greedy one with Four, Marida and Haman, but ping is mostly dead in current meta, I tried it for several weeklies and can't manage more than a 3-2 even with great hands. Amuro is too good and not playing it hinders
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>>97031179
not playing blockers is literally throwing unless you're on OYW
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>>97031773
Ranger is a dead class. They should've never made assassin before finishing the class identity. Now we have theif, so a mutation of a mutation. I bloody love it.... not.
>b-b-but L L!
Has one pet deck for Ranger, only recently, and otherwise is a format strictly for broken (good!) degenerates, aka not everyone else but Rangers.
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"FUCKRANGERS!" - james white (probably)
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>>97032355
B/P aggro is strong as well.
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Clan sucks cock, but this list has been performing decently for me in the current meta
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Interesting. I don't know what I was expecting out of Hathaway but it certainly wasn't this.
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>>97032737
Literally what they've been doing bro. Open your eyes. For years and years. Bryan Gottlieb fears the bowman.
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The only time ranger schizo isn't having a meltdown is when ranger is at the top of the meta. He can not be satisfied by anything else.
Nothing he says should ever be taken seriously.
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>>97028336
if they couldn't maake runeterra work you are out of your mind if you think riftbound is surviving long.
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>>97033297
Tell me you've never played the game without telling me you haven't played the game.

Do you even know what allowed ranger to exist in the meta? It was never top, practically ever, and the times it was good were fleeting. Not sustained like how brand new LSS pushed poster children are ruining the game.

What allowed ranger to excell is the absence of even more busted characters. The only times in the history of the game that let the mid classes breath a little is when the broken shit races towards LL and leaves a power vacuum. That's been shared not exclusively by ranger but everyone else as well. Ergo, it's not Rangers that are good, it's opportunistic metas emerging that are swiss cheesed by speedrunning maniacs with unchecked power.

Azalea didn't leave because she was solved, she got forced out with xp modifiers and brief power vacuums.

I present to you the ranger killer. This is all it takes to legsweep a whole class. This comes in generic even, everyone can dunk on bow users. Its even been reprinted; how fun!
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>>97033322
>if they couldn't make (completely different thing) work then this won't work either
Retard take tbqh.
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Instantly vindicated, lmao.
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Hello, No Games
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>>97033395
>both card games
>from the same company
>even have the same art
shut up now.
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New TCG that looks like it's used AI and is dead on arrival

https://dragon-shogun.com/en/
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A card for Cat fag
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Damn, sorcery artists look like that?
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Sexooo
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>>97035301
Is Sorcery still one thousand morbillion dollars because "we have to protect the interests of collectors (scalpers)"
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>>97035515
You mean we have to respect and support artists? Yes.
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>>97035294
Just seems like a DueMa clone by TCG Company. No particularly unique mechanics, no narrow appeal.
Eh.
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>>97031179
I've been running one with only Marida and Four and finding great success. On the blue side, add all ping blue units, 4 forbidden gundams, psycho MA (I prefer it instead of baby Kshatriya), Marida's banshee, and, obviously, psycho LR + Four. On the red side, a base that deals ping (rewloola or shuji) and battle of aces are a must. Gotta have at least 3 Battle of Aces. That card is so good when you can already ping through other means (ksha pairing, anksha/guntank, bases, close combat...)
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kino
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>>97035572
The secondary market money doesn't go to artists, tho.
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>>97035851
cute tummy
dangerous way to hold a blade
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>>97035294
Thank you, anon. <3
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>>97033127
Something about themeing of overcoming an oppressive (board) state
I just hope that when hath links he does more than just that single damage. Kind of pointless to try being a balancer that doesn't actually help out in such a way.
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>>97036369
With Hath, you ping something and then it becomes a valid attack target so you can just swing on it
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Who wore it best?
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>>97036908
Awoo ^_^
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>>97036744
So not something to counter the early access you can have to it from being behind. 00 is looking like the easy choice between the 2. I get they want to promote xi for the film but at least make it worth.
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>>97036908
Objectively? Easily Guardians, you can see the art better, as well as a vibrant background. We're comparing a screen grab from a low res reveal trailer verses someone's bitchin' scanner combo, probably also from back then. The 90s were so fucking rad, boyos. You have no idea.

Subjectively, Devil Dog sounds cooler, makes more sense for the artwork and the flavor of it being a devil while the other one's a monster is a missed opportunity. as far as stats and effects go I can't say which is stronger. Wolf seems like a nimble skirmisher, Dog is a companion that can withstand fire.
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>450
>3 booster boxes
>a greedy demon playmat (2player)
>precon deck set (4)
>a special graded promo
>of a token
>in a huge PCG slab (mandatory)

Damn that price is actually pretty good, but they're basically giving you the plamat or the promo free.
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>>97035851
>>97035932
>cute tummy
>female
Mutually exclusive traits.
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Ya I'm gonna quit FAB for Riftbound for a bit. I'm so sick of what's coming up on a year of the same metagame.

I know Riftbound is Kaisa vs yi but at least Kaisa mirrors are fun
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>>97037751
Sabotage the FABGOTS at your LGS on the way out. We have a chance. Together it might be possible to end this plague!
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>>97037751
Same but Sorcery. The new set actually looks good.
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>>97037751
>Fabgot jumps ship to failbound
KEK
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>>97037943
Riftbound is more popular than any other TCG mentioned in this thread. Literally the only TCGs bigger than it are MTG, Pokemon and Yugioh currently.
I wouldn't be surprised if it overtook them in organised play as well if traction stays evenmotely simillar to right now
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>>96996810
>>97010728
>>97018218
AI slop
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>>97035301
>poses for the collab video thanking Sorcery
>while standing directly in front of the Crown Royal at the liquor store

Based and fucking leaf pilled.

Here's a look at one of the first curios that's possible to pull in in Gothic.
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>>97038067
don't know about the other 2, but the main artist for the game livestream drew her OC into the game
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>>97038235
The rules were genned, not (all) the art. The pre-kickstarter rules page was literally a chatgpt output with the "Here you go!" portion removed. Parhelion openly admits to using AI for their gachashit as well
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>>97036369
Playing that unit for 3-4 cheaper is not going to save you
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FAB > Riftbound and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>97037083
Chances are there's another one in gd03
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>>97037969
>Riftbound is more popular than any other TCG mentioned in this thread.
Insane glazing. I didn't think LoL fags were in their droves on 4chan lol
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Were taking over /acg/ fags
get ready
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If your game is so big and popular you should get a general like digimon or magic fags have and be able to sustain it for more than one thread unlike the stupid fucking fabgots. Good luck rito fans!
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Plus all of the art that wasn't censored for Chinese "players" looks like it was done by IAmSamYang AI inputs lol. Why don't you league queers go back to spamming the artifact copypasta or something more worthwhile with your time
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so much vindication in this thread
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>>97039608
True, league faggots should know their place. Artifact the DOTA 2 card game is the /acg/ compared to Cardboard Legends of Runeterra kek
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>>97039608
You look insane talking to yourself. Just wanted you to know that.
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You guys play Riftbound on TTS or TCG-Arena?
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>>97037751
I'd wait for reprints and set 2, but it's still cheaper than fabbotry right now.

Thousand-Tailed Watcher is going to crater by Feb, unrelated. And I wish they'd stop pandering to the chink gooners and give us the weird looking heroes like amumu or fiddle.
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>>97039112
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>>97040071
I don't play Griftbound at all.
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>>97039112
Ok, post about the game then.
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>>97040071
arena
sold a few cards for $140, so I can't say nothing positive about it
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Is Riftbound affordable yet?
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>>97040870
No
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>>97040989
When can I expect it to be affordable?
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>>97041010
Probably February, maybe later.
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>>97040870
*Laughing piggie*
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>>97039112
If you really fell for hasbro and bandai slop, you deserve assfaggots
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>>97041083
I can play any deck I want in any Bandaislop game for like $200 max and the vast majority are much cheaper than that. I'll take that over griftbound any fucking day.
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Why do people bitch about new games being unaffordable? When was the last time a “affordable” new card game launched? I preordered riftbound through my LGS since I knew I wanted to play and picked up 2 boxes for 125 each, the starters for 20 each and the battle box for 50. 360 dollars buy in not at all expensive. Literally get a job.
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>>97037751
I'll take a stale meta over paying scalper prices for a deck of a game we don't even know how the competitive circuit looks like.

>but reprints on february
The same month that fab gets a reprint set and a new budget format? What about it? I'm kind of annoyed that they're mixing SAGE on the next pro tour I'm playing on but it still beats falling for the griftbound scam.
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>>97041157
Biggest loss is no more competitive limited. No one likes to fucking draft anymore, they're all netdeckers that can't craft limited pools for shit.
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>>97041150
We’ve known about this game for a fucking YEAR. You’re fucking retarded for not preordering a new game and then bitching that honeymoon prices are high. Any amount of forethought in this situation would solve your problems.
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>go to prerelease for $35
>sell any chase cards I open that are worth >$10
>buy them back later after prices drop down
it's that easy
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>>97041087
Sure, but Bandai games are flavorless and boring. While Riftbound is neither.
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lmao 2psyco
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>>97041728
Rofltopdeckter
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>>97039073
It might be glazing but its true. Its incredibly popular world wide right now. What other card game than the big three is pulling similar numbers?
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>>97041157
There is nothing worse than a stale meta. 12 months of flick knives and felling mirrors? vomit inducing garbage
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>>97041141
360 dollars for paper to play a game that will not be around in 5 years is actually insane lmao
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>>97042055
This happens for any big new game. SWU was doing well the first set. Let's see if it has legs.

It probably will, since China loves LoL and that's the main market. But whether it keeps player numbers or just keeps printing sets is to be seen. I hope it keeps it up, the game is very fun.
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>>97041175
SEA, the last limited that went into the competitive scene was pretty much well received everywhere except for viewers which is the main reason LSS is happy to let draft go, also no free packs.

>>97042067
There's always something worse like the dubious decision to hop onto a scalper filled game propped up by artificial scarcity and fomo, specially when the former game in question pretty much only has the RTN season before a new big set.
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>They unironically think Riftbound will flop
You are non-players who don't go to game stores.
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>>97042208
SWU didn't touch Riftbound numbers though. Also as noted Riftbound right now is enormous in China which not many other TCGs can boast about.
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>>97042223
hey man runeterra also did really well at launch too!
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>>97042216
>There's always something worse like the dubious decision to hop onto a scalper filled game propped up by artificial scarcity and fomo
While the game is putting up numbers in china alone that FAB wishes it could have 1/10th of?

Riftbound is already putting up far better numbers in most stores attendece wise for nexus nights compared to armories. The thing you seem to be missing is Riftbound has casual appeal and FAB has none.

Fab while being a fantastic game has too big of an issue of chasing sweats and comp play meaning outside big events nobody wants to play it.
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>>97042258
Runeterras launch numbers are tiny compared to Riftbound though
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>>97042278
[citation needed]
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>>97042258
No clue if that's true. It's not an IRL game anyway so it doesn't apply here.
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>>97042290
It's the same company, in a similar space, with less competition and worse margins.
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>>97042272
>The thing you seem to be missing is Riftbound has casual appeal and FAB has none.
Uh sure? The post I replied to wasn't talking about anything of the sort though. It was exclusively whining about a stagnant meta which is as sweaty as it can get.
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>>97042289
Riftbound being literally sold out worldwide. Riftbound events in china all hitting capacity? Nobody gave a fuck about Runeterra on release. It was just hearthstone clone with a fraction of the userbase
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All the stores in my region have already picked up Riftbound and the locals seem to be full every week.
Even the boomer magic lgs that hates everything not-magic caved in.
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Locally we have about 15 stores in our city and every nexus night gets about 30-40 people on week days. This is even with multiple stores having it on the same night.

For reference fab armories get about 8-10 people and have about 5 stores run them.
It's actually getting bigger numbers than commander right now in most stores which is outright insane
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>>97042445
>>97042407
Huh crazy, my city only has 2 big game stores but neither has even talked about running events
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>>97042272
>too big of an issue of chasing sweats and comp play meaning outside big events nobody wants to play it.
But that's wrong. That's not the problem with the game, at all. The problem is they are courting collectibiiity every new release. They don't give a fuck about producing balanced competitive play, they simply want to make new powerful waifus every chance they get, complete with a bevy of special foil cards to trick out decks.

Also the limited in the game is great. Lots of folks go to armory events, they play all the formats on rotation, even pitfight. The problem with the game is it has immense potential but it never lives up it.
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>>97042689
>Pitfight
Who the fuck plays this garbage? FAB has got to be the worst TCG in existence when it comes to multiplayer
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>>97042739
Actual local game stores? I know of one that has rotating formats, usually in the same part of the month. They get the multiplayer chads in on the last slot of the month, and start back up on CC to bring in the comp crew. The limited epicureans are saddled in the middle. As far as I know they had at least four to fire off every week, with other times going too, depending on the release cycle.

I encourage you to get out there and actually play more. Go visit locations you have never been and ask around about what they play. You would be delighted by what's out there, waiting to be discovered. Cheerio.
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>>97041477
>bandai malder sweeping for riftbound because it's all he has now
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>>97042398
>Print 3 booster boxes
>THE GAME SOLD OUT WORLDWIDE
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>>97043613
>A LOT OF DEMAND FOR A SHORTED SET!!
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>>97042689
>folks
Opinion dismissed.
Try to blend in better next time, marxoid.
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>>97039112
>those games in particular
This is subtle SEA posting and I appreciate it.
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>>97042398
According to who? Riot? If we take Riot's word for it, League of Legends and Valorant are the literal biggest games in the world with 10x players of any other game. They are completely full of it.
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>>97042255
We don't really have numbers thoughever. SWU had pretty much the same attendance at my LGS for the first set and still has good ongoing attendance. Same with Lorcana

IDC about China, if RB became a China only game and died in the west no one would be talking about it
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>>97043613
>>97042398
>>97043700
My store got 30 boxes and limited it 1 per phone number ever and we still sold out before the game even released.

I live in butt fuck nowhere.
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>>97044241
We get 32 people every week in 3 LGSs for locals. At least currently, Riftbound is very popular, and I hand it to the different playstyle + popular IP combo.
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>>97042258
It had players but not buyers. The nature of Riftbound is that those players are also buyers. Runeterra's issue was never players, it was always the game being too generous for a F2P game so nobody ever spent money on it.
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>>97044297
That flavourful text. Masterful.
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>>97043988
>>97044132
The numbers in stores are shiting on every other TCG right now for attendance. SWU was nothing like this at all
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>>97041477
>Sure, but Bandai games are flavorless and boring
100%
Thank you for saying this.
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>>97042055
One piece is and Lorcana....
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>>97043744
Not that guy, but 'folks' is a very common word. Maybe he's not a marxoid, and you're a mongoloid for NOT using it.
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>>97044336
Lorcana is not even remotely close to Riftbound right now. I will give you One Piece, it is actually getting good numbers in general even if its less that the initial riftbound wave
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All right, pretty excited about Whispers in the Well, and decided to build a new deck with cards from it. I call this one 'Tag and Bag', and the chief gimmick is to exert your opponents characters and assassinate them for huge Lore gains, while cycling the characters who die in those challenges back to your hand. This deck could certainly use the $20 Demona card, but for now (until I can pull one from a pack or the price drops to something more reasonable) , I think it can survive well enough on what it has.
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>>97042055
>than the big three
I can't remember ever seeing a Pokemon event (i think it's more an american thing), and MTG had had zero events recently, basically just like 2 tables playing EDH forever. YuGiOh has events regularly though. The big 3 are really not in a healthy spot, and their places basically seem up for grabs, but somehow companies find it hard not to screw up after release. One Piece seems to be the only one that maintained numbers after a few years from the new contenders.
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Is Riftbound BO1 or BO3?
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>>97044588
I would think 3 since there's a side board to utilize but sounds like it depends on regions. Other games s do the same.
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I hope this bubble for new card game stabilizes solely because I think making card art for new card game number two hundred six is actually a great gig for freelance artists in this scary new era of AI art.
People still get pissed at ai slop cards and that's a good thing..
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>>97044588
My locals switch between bo1 and bo3 every week, but bo3 is just better.
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>>97044605
BO3 for any actual tournament. Nexus nights switch up between the too depending on what time they want to finish at. Say you need 4-5 rounds you would do BO1 so you dont finish at midnight
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>>97044925
>>97044925
>>97044925
Migrate
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>>97044297
>waifu floating in gradient space
It's shit.



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