"Many people think that a game is finished when there is nothing more to be added. I believe a game is finished when there is nothing more that can be taken away and still leave a good game"-Der gute DoktorPreviously on bgg: >>96978860This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8Survey results: https://pastebin.com/YJPZ44rqTQs:>Which board game is art?>Favorite game with a timer?>Confess your bgg sins
Should I try going to some board game meet ups?
>>97009551Galaxy Trucker>>97009565https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96726837/#96735611
>>97009565Yes
>>97009551>>Which board game is art?Friedemann Friese's Fast Forward Fortress>>Favorite game with a timer?The Bullet series.>>Confess your bgg sinsI have spent more on sleeving some games than the games themselves cost
>>97008360You better follow up when it arrives, anon.>>97009551The Grizzles is absolutely art.Wish more war themed games would focus on aspects of war that aren't boiled down to fighting simulations.
>"Many people think that a game is finished when there is nothing more to be added. I believe a game is finished when there is nothing more that can be taken away and still leave a good game"You know it's funny bc I was reading a design blog by Phil Walker-Harding and he was expressing the same sentiment, going so far as to thinking having two two distinct systems in his design as an initial failure, and yet his games end up exactly the sort of way I'd expect any person's attempt at a hyper-reductionist-mindset would end up: light, simple enough, fun while playing but nothing to really write home about.And yet all of the doc's games appear that way on the service but somehow manage to manipulate basic game theory ideas and player psychology just really takes it a step above and I don't get how he does it so easily in a way that doesn't devolve into basic 'tasks' more than actual games
>>97009743I would hazard a guess it is a) The German cultural mindset of games being a family activity promoting bonding and interaction that is heavily infused into the doctors philosophy of what games should be doing at the table and b) is focus on playing to win and not winning on its own as being the motivating factor in how he guides players. That psychological emphasis is so baked it and yet somehow is at odds with what most other designers do: create a system of rules you are meant to explore, twist, and exploit, often regardless of the other humans at the table. Complete other end of the spectrum, but I find Cole Wehrle also gets this right, the focus is always on each other with the rules a means to an end. Whatever it is, it is magical and it will be a sad day when he departs the hobby.I love board games so much bros.
>>97009551how do you think you'd fare?, in dying from alcohol poisoning i meanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ixp5VozIs
>>97009551>>Which board game is art?Ra. The GIPFs.>>Favorite game with a timer?Oath! Or, if an actual countdown timer, I really like Escape curse of the temple.>>Confess your bgg sinsI'm unemployed and just spent money that should be used elsewhere on board games (it's a good one though!)
>>97009743knizia is incomprehensible. part of it is that he was designing in a near-vacuum, part of it is that he published something like SEVEN HUNDRED GAMES and we only talk about a handful of them.
Modern art is not good.
>>97010240Of course it isn't.It is fantastic.
>>97009743There are lots of Knizia games thoeverI think the main thing is that his designs encompass having a strong central "theme"/idea to them that is carried through to the end product. He's also not afraid to rehash on and iterate already strong design's he's worked on previously to make something completely new.Phil on the otherhand just seems to make literal random dogshit, the last two games of his I even remember coming out were Fire Mountain (Co design) and Spellbook. Both of which start at basically just trying to literally be mid versions of other games kek. He seems to encompass the "throw darts blindfolded" ethos of design many modern designers seem to follow for some reason.
>>97010367There are lots of crap knizia games* oops
Osprey having a sale, Imp is real cheap
>>97009583Kek, that post has good advice. I am heading to a local library hosting game night on Thursday. I fully expect the autism to register on a geiger counter.>>97009590Totally fine if they're out of print or heavy on shuffling. I am considering sleeving ark nova just cause you can't conveniently riffle those mammoth stacks of cards.>>97009743Similar to the literary idea of killing your darlings; however, that isn't an absolute. There will be times where you leave things in as a mark of virtuosity or a strong flavour element. Sometimes things can end up too skeletal or themeless to be truly memorable.>>97010114Favourite gipfs? I love Dvonn, but I don't have any others. Scooped a bunch of esoteric stuff on Facebook marketplace over the last week. I think people are preparing to consoom on black friday.
>>97010450They do this regularly, its how I got Legends and Horizons.As much as its more civs than i could ever need, I still feel the yearning for a handful more. Where my Mongols at? Haudenosaunnee? Ethiopians? Visigoths? Get off your captains chair, Nigel, and give us what we want!
>>97010505>Favourite gipfs? I love Dvonn, but I don't have any others.Dvonn is my favorite. I really like zertz too (it's the knizia of gipf) and yinsh. But they are all lovely
>>97009565No
I just went to Kublacon Fall and got to play Blue Moon City. As expected it was mid. Luck of the draw played a huge role and the turn order favors the first player strongly. I could see some strategy points here and there but not enough for a game of its length.
>>97009583Good advice.>>97009551>Which board game is art?Coloretto. By some rigid definitions I've seen here it would be MPS, but I can't think of another game more effective at getting people's eyes to dart around.>Favorite game with a timer?Magic Maze.>Confess your bgg sinsI cheated.
Finished the nandeck low-ink Protagonist template. Now to get the rest of the scripts into the batch spreadsheet and they'll all be ready for PnPing.
>>97009785I will simply never understand the appeal of the modern Eurogame.
>>97010114How do you feel about the Oath 2.0 rules?
>>97010959I very much get where you are coming from, but the game really wants you to ge to the point where you remember large parts of the opponents deck. Then the game actually begins. There's a fanmade(?) digital version in which the simplest AI will utterly crush you if you play by gut. It's worth a try.That said, I also did not feel like putting that much time into it. It's alright and I can see it opening up but that's too much playing around semi blindly just to get to the actual game. Plus you'd have to do it for every race
>>97010240the card game is betterturns out the auctions are the least interesting part of the game
What in the fuck kind of sale is thisThe word sale used to mean something
>>97011574That is very much what european sales have been all my life>SupER SALE: Our company is closing and we need to get rid of all our shit in the warehouse within a month!>-15% on select products, no free shipping
>>97011201Are you talking about Blue Moon?Cuz anon be talking about Blue Moon City.
>>97011574That's not even his final form!
Is CMON completly dead yet or are theh still selling organs to stay afloat?
>>97011161I actually haven't followed the ks closely but from what I gather they are adding a lot of extra complexity to try to get people who did not care about the original's focus on "being part of the story" as a wincon. So unsure. I don't think the game needs extra complexity, and I was lucky enough to have a group where "I help you win this battle and you write my name in the book" was incentive enough so I'm not the target audience. I did like some of the small changes but knowing how leder works they might not even be in the expansion by now
>>97011899Ah shit, you are correctMan my reading comprehension went straight down after my second kid and hasn't really recovered since
>>97012048Got that baby brain, eh?It will pass in time.The energy never really comes back though.
>>97011932I think we are at the stage where everyone knows they are fucked and awating the day they can declare bankruptcy, but officially they're still alive. Because, as you said, they sold their most profitable organs (IPs). Not sure what they are trying here, probably just the top people syphoning funds that should go into bankruptcy assets or whatever it's called in.english. point being I don't think anyone's getting their unfulfilled kickstarters
Castle combo chuds, have you ever tried the game with more than 2? Because it seems like it wouldn't really work and become a somewhat swingy mess>>97009785>Whatever it is, it is magical and it will be a sad day when he departs the hobby.>I love board games so much bros.Based and passionpilled
It's that time of the month /bgg/. What did I get myself into this time? Hint, the designer is a glowie.
>>97012166You were convinced to buy the War on Terror?It's that or Imperial Struggle.
>>97012166>What did I get myself into this time? Hint, the designer is a glowie.bad dragon anal dildos
>>97012166yeah I'm gonna go with volko and cuba libre. Herman also glows by association I think
STOP GIVING THIS BALD MOTHERFUCKER MONEY CMYK
>>97012057>>97012048If you were to supplement creatine to nootropic levels, eat a tin of sardines with a fermented food of choice, exercise everyday for half an hour and fast 2 days a week and you may be shocked.>>97012166Hunt for Blackbeard, cause that's the one I am most interested to try at the moment and is probably shipping around now.
>>97012172>>97012210>>97012212>>97012328Sorry but he is not one of the usual suspects.
>>97012349Holy based, another WarChadBut do chech the box for rips and tears, it is absolutely flimsy trash
>>97012349>David Thompson>CIANever heard that before. Anything interesting buried in an interview somewhere?
>>97012256Wait he's working with cmyk?Pity. That makes me instantly assume all their superficially fun games are as devoid of substance as SUSD
>>97012256Why do these hipsteresque numales all go for the archetypical pedophile look around 40?
>>97011313Strongly agree with you. In fact, the card game versions of the entire auction trilogy might be superior.
>>97012349I bought war chest to round out some order, flipped through the rulebook, and binned it unplayed
>>97012034I think the changes so far seem good, the biggest issue I had is that for a game about kingmaking, there was 0 trading. That just seems like a huge oversight.
>>97012256>>97012390He worked with CMYK on the Wavelength game a few years ago. Nowadays though Quinn doesn't work with SUSD, he does some videos for People Make Games (they do a variety of videos, he did a video on Chinese Murder Mystery game experiences but the channel also talks video games) and he has Quinn's Quest (which is more like tabletop RPGs). Consulting and previewing games is a side gig.
For the life of me I don't get why people view neoprene mats as a luxury component. They're fucking mousepads. I've never looked at the boards in my board games and wished they were limp and floppy
>>97012671Ngl, that seems like an act of mental illness
>>97012671You're a dumb fuck
>>97013005It's easier to pick up cards and pieces from them. The neoprene mat for summoner wars is good because you can manipulate the cards a lot easier
>>97013005Absolute trvke, but the thing that matters is that if people believe it's a luxury component, they'll pay accordingly
>>97013409Is it back in stock again? It's been perpetually out of print, I gave up and stopped looking after a while.
what are the best dad-core games?
>>97010505>Favourite gipfs? I love Dvonn, but I don't have any others.Dvonn, Tzaar. I wish they came in smaller boxes.>>97013711As in games to play with your father? Some abstract or classical card games.
>>97013409I've been told this before, but I can actually pick up objects with a single finger, my tips are like spidermans.
>>97013707I remember seeing the premium dice and tokens were back in stock in canada, and havent sold out. Might be lucky and the mat is back too, depending on your region.
>>97012256The man meeds to pay for new lodging, leave him be!
>>97013711if you really want the best for your child you'll wait for a thunderstorm and abandon them on Mark Herman's doorstep to be raised by the master and walk the path of ten thousand glows
>>97013711I'd say boardgaming as a hobby is largely dadcore
>>97013765Your hands are oily
>>97013835Never understood the premium dice for summoner wars. Their red dice already seem premium enough
>>97013877Why must you hurt my sides so.Such a child will literally embody the git gud.
>>97013989I own them because I wanted another dice set. They’re the same quality of dice though.
>>97014150don't be absurd anon. Mark teaches no-one the five point exploding sides technique
what's your opinion about this game? i remember Jack Rida and GF9 shilled it to no end as best Conan game to be, but IMO, it feels that theme was slapped on as afterthought, similar to how they did that Firefly Misbehaving game. While Conan the Barbarian is cool theme, i feel game could work with any other setting, compared to say, Dune, where rules were baked with theme in mind (IIRC i read somewhere that initial prototype game was based on roman politics or something and avalon hill insisted they do Dune as they had access to IP or something)
>>97013989I have them, I like the extra colors.
>>97013005Neoprene mats are good for some games, quick set up, easy to pick things off of them. The real issue you're talking about is deluxification and add ons in general being fucking retarded tacking so much random shit on.
>>97014566>shilled it to no end as best Conan game to be,How many Conan games are there? It might as well be the best one yet but still be trash.Never heard of this game before though.
Anyone played any of the Bios series of games?Which one do you like the most if any?
>>97013005Primal seems cool but why god is it fucking 500 dollars
>>97014566>best Conan game to beI mean the only recent Conan board games have been:>Age of Conan: The Strategy Board GameNever played it but it more or less looks like Risk: Conan Edition with a bunch of extra stuff. Conan is more a force on the board everyone can hire/use. >Conan by MonolithAka a big box miniature pusher skirmish game, with one player controlling all the bad guys vs many heroes (and people can play Conan). I have played it. I like the energy system and its push your luck style. But a bunch of the scenarios are screaming out for balance or an actual campaign. And Monolirh has always been a bit eh doing this, just moving on to their next miniature pusher.That GF9 looks more like the former than the latter.
>>97015017Only played Genesis and mesofaunaWould love to experience mega and origins. I have a soft spot for Genesis. It's very random at first glance, and you are always a bad roll away from extinction even if you have specced into a strong micro organism with plenty of protection. The interaction between players seems minimal at first, but learning how to nab points through parasites and getting your domes onto other people lifeforms opens up a lot of sniping and interest in the more esoteric abilities. Meso felt a lot tighter. The world gets crowded fast, and branching off into sub species is a must, with the parasite subspecies being hilariously dangerous if able to flourish.
>>97015017Easily origins for me, but I live civ builders.
>>97015440how does it play? How long does it play?
>>97012514Ra has a card game version?
>>97015751And a dice game version
>>97015781and a write version
>>97013005Cardboard gets warped if you're in the wrong climate. God help you if you get food or drink on it too.
thoughts on Song of Silveranth? is anyone here backing it? I saw an Anon speak wonders of Sleeping Dogs
>>97013005I pnp shit which means I send off cleaned scanned boards I pirated online to the printer. If I'm paying $50 for cardboard or a neoprene mat anyway, I might as well get the mat.As for luxury, that's just retarded consumers falling for the latest Kickstarter slop.
>>97015868I'm keeping an eye on it since sleeping gods gets sucked off, but I am expecting playing it solo or MAYBE 1 other.The setting is more interesting than sleeping gods to me
>>97015868>Ryan laukatAt some point in his life he might just design a good game. it could be this one, but I doubt it
>>97015751I can understand reducing the deck size but why does it cut the disasters?
I've been too busy for board/gaming basically all year. What'd I miss?Is Flip 7 still The Greatest Card Game of All Time?
>>97016743as far as I can tell there hasn't been a single significant publication since dune 2019
Am USA.Is there any hope for a comeback?He doesnt know Im holding Europe scoring.
>>97016482Yeah Sleeping Gods >b-b-but-Don’t care retard, stop being a miserable fag
>>97016806are you sure you didn't screw up scoring? doesn't look quite right to me. anyway you would basically be pinning your hopes on a global thermonuclear war trigger going the right way for you. ~15%
>>97016778Stationfall
Went to a small board game convention and won a grand prize. Got quite a few things.
>>97013711Paths of Glory Panzerblitz Axis & Allies
>>97013711Any game you want to play son because I'm here for you.
>>97017291
>>97017303I'll get your dad. This is going to be fun.
>>97017303Get out of my house.
>>97017303I wish this game were actually good because the theme is hilarious.
>>97017303>What's all this racket going on up here son? You playin' yer fag monopoly again?>It's called MOLLY HOUSE, dad. It's not for fags AND it's not monopoly. It's some of the best board gaming from Cole Wehrl with deep, intricate gameplay that an INFORMER like you wouldn't understand. Watch for a second.>Want to go strolling? Translators note, strolling is code for cruising, looking for sex with men in public areas.
>>97017412kek
>>97017369>the theme is hilarious.Remember that Stonewall Uprising game from a few years ago? Where one player plays Pride whose goal is to shift the Overton Window whilst the opponent plays The Man who's goal is to demoralise people from Pride. (And the board had an AIDS death marker.)I just went on the gulag and one of the first forum posts is complaining that the subtitle of the game is bad because it says "Gay Civil Rights". >My (trans) sisters started stonewall as our revolution, and then the cis gays stole it from us and threw us under the bus. Really fucked up that you make this explicitly about "gay civil rights" when it was us who started it. Also liberation =/= civil rights.
>>97017441The Overton window was mentioned and now I am nervous.
>>97017448Why?
>>97017478Who hired you?
>>97017484No one.
wtf were FFG smoking in the 2010s when they made like 50 expansions for Descent 2e, a game barely anyone played? Why did they make so many runewars games but not bother to flesh out the setting's lore?
>>97017673>a game barely anyone played?They sold well at the time though.
>>97017676From what I've heard everyone either played Imperial Assault or stuck with Descent 1e though.
>>97017685Eh, I knew a lot of people into 2e anecdotally.
>>97017303This delayed An Infamous Traffic 2E btw
>>97017303Reminder this didn't even win the Zenobia award.
why?
>>97018133we wuz knights n shiet
>>97018133WHY?
>>97018133>>97018144dubs of acceptance....
>>97016778Erm, anon...>>97018026The only one of those that looked interesting (thematically, idk about the mechanics) was the one where the players are archaeologists arguing about what Machu Picchu was built for.
>>97017863>An Infamous Traffic 2EI never played the 1ed but my interest wanes with each day. >>97018144This looks exactly like a parody cover.
>>97018144pffffffffffthahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>97018144picrel vibes
I'm finally starting to get For Sale. A fun game with a good skill curve
>>97018332FUCK. I wasn’t mad, but now I am.
>>97018144I can no longer tell if this is a parody or not
>>97016778In addition to >>97018160 there have been several other reprints besides Dune. Ra, Ave Caesar, Hansa Teutonica: Big Box, etc.
Made some quick Goita cards, gonna see if my friends like it tomorrow.
>>97018144>>97018133sheeeeeeeeit
>>97018694>random obscure game from some tiny village in Japan gets a licensed Pokemon rethemeStrange!
>>97016842>Don’t care retard, stop being a miserable fagOk, tell why the game is good, then. I'll be honest, I haven't played it, looking at the rules and overall gameplay was enough for me to skip it.
>>97018883NTA but the other anon who shilled it recently >>96984271. I've completed my first campaign now so I can write a few more words on it.First off, this is an exploration game that is a race against time. It's an open world with locations to explore, NPCs to talk to, quests to do, and items to find. The main quest itself is fairly open, without spoiling anything.However, once you look at it from the perspective of not a single campaign (which would cover roughly 1/3rd of the world map), but from the perspective of a series of campaigns, it becomes a game of creating a Groundhog Day-style perfect run by logging which location has what rewards, which items are found where, etc. If the first description sounds good to you, it's worth playing it once using someone else's copy or pirating it on TTS. If the second description sounds good to you, it is probably worth buying.With regards to the gameplay, unfortunately my opinion has come down a bit. The game is well designed in the sense that encounters are very often dangerous but enough preparation can mitigate anything, so it's always a tradeoff of how much you're willing to risk your ship and your crew to progress, with luck playing a less critical role. Yes there's garbage areas that just damage you and you can't know it in advance whereas others shower you with loot, but run ending randomness buttfucking you in the ass is not really a thing in this game.Onto to the bad bit. Almost immediately after my initial report, I managed to find a busted combo of items that could be abused every single turn to make the core game trivial. I also happened upon BGG posts about another combo which straight up breaks the game. That second part has been errata'd out afterwards apparently, but the combo I found should be the type of thing you get out of Groundhog-daying the game, not on your first run. What I'm saying is, the game's balance is not all it could be, but your mileage may vary.
>>97018694>japslop
>>97014876Wanted to look up whether there is a conanopoly but found this instead.
>>97018160FUCK RENATURE
>>97019090Final verdict, 7th Citadel is still king. Buy it, steal it, whatever.
>>97017863>An Infamous Traffic 2EGood Infamous Traffic isn't a good game and the playthrough people had at SDHISTCON showed that that didn't do anything to improve gameplay. It still comes down to just blowing up everyone's drug supply chains with police and getting British flags. The supply chain/scion thing is still just a tack on that's way to fragile.
>>97010959I also went to Kublacon Fall. Makes me wonder if I played with another anon without realizing it. Did you get to play a game with the guest of honor aka literally who Youtuber Hungry Gamer?
>>97016482I'm sorry you never played Empires of the Void II, anon. It's Race for the Galaxy in an actual galaxy.
>>97015018Gotta pay for all the miniatures that draws in all the suckers on Kickstarter. Box size and price inflation be damned.
>>97018133>>97018144You know why, but also>ESG money
>>97019121Excuse me, sir, but we use "weebshit" around these parts.
>>97019930>game about supply chains is about supply chains and you lose the game if you lose the supply chainsWow, color me shocked. What's next, a game about making the most money where you have to make the most money? When will they stop with these maddening concepts?!?!?!
>>97019938I would've gotten it, but everybody kept saying it really needs the expansion which is very much unobtainium. Or rather not available at a reasonable price>>97019090I typed up a long answer but 4chan ate it. Basically>Yeah but in what way is it different/better than the plethora of other campaign games
>>97019930>(...) that's way to fragile.I find this is the case with basically all wehrle designs
Anyone uses tlama Diamond green sleeves or Sleevy sleeves?
>>97020859>Yeah but in what way is it different/better than the plethora of other campaign gamesShould I be going through each other campaign game and comparing/contrasting? Already did that for EBR to some extent.That's a bit different from the original question >>97018883 though, which is what makes it good in general. My opinion has cooled due to the balance so I'm not interested in defending it too much, but the core systems are well designed and functional. Why is it bad just from looking at the rulebook? What would you want in it?
>>97018133Why do black characters inserted into western generic fantasy always get drawn with smugest of the smug expression. I swear it is on purpose.
>>97022303It is designed to make (You) upset
>>97022378Kek I'm not really upset I just find it funny how it's always the same thing. Diversity sure always looks the same.
>>97022303>>97022423(You) know why, they know why, they even know that (You) know why, (You) also know that they know that (You) know that they know why too, they of course know that (You) certainly know that they know (You) know that they know why, but that doesn't stop them from doing it.
>>97022521But do kids know how many licks it takes to get to the center of Black Cinnamons Bene Gesserit prediction?
>>97022423it's not that deep. corpos are desperately thirsty to sell entertainment media to africans (understandably) but if you perform a little bit of research into actual African cultures it instantly becomes apparent that it is inadvisable, likely impossible, outright dangerous to attempt, and even in thinly veiled fiction like Dune you're up to your eyeballs in atrocity before you can finish saying "Sudan"so you do the cheapest/laziest thing and shoehorn a bunch of them into your art
>>97022543They did...before such knowledge was lost in the Succession Wars
>>97022642Shit I just realized I'm on /bgg/ not /btg/ I swear this joke is on topic, because uhhh The Succession Wars board game!
>>97022798Would it suprise you to learn that it was actually a post about midget porn
>>97022835On 4chan? No, not really.
>>97022594>entertainment media to africansThis has nothing to do with Africans. Or African Americans either. It has everything to do with what a small subset of mostly white left wing people think diversity means.
>>97022521But do (you) know?
>>97018694noice, made some Hanafuda for beginner cards and they liked itand absolutely hate the sake
>>97018144How bad is it going to DnBe?
>>97015854this. nothing like the spinning player board in a brand new game
>>97013005neoprene is fucking based but as a $10 joann fabrics cover for the whole table not a fancy print that only works with one game
>>97022423See >>97022918It's kind of similar to the anthropomorphic animals theme or the solo tax; it doesn't disincentivise many people from buying your game but you potentially win others over. I have doubts as how effective an instrument this really is. I don't think there's many people who'd buy a game just because the designer is native american, but there's even fewer who won't buy it because of that and otherwise wouldn't. Makes sense to go on about it from a marketing perspective. Thus we get black muslim paladins and danger haircut lesbian elves
>>97016743
>>97017103you don't say
>>97023360Got like $500 worth of games. Sorted Christmas for me.
>>97018421
>>97023330I don't think this logic really works and I also don't think it is representative of what happens, it really doesn't make sense from marketing at all. They just get into a place and change establish things to fit their specific idea of things. I would say it pisses more people off than it pleases because the culture wars narratives tend to show this. People who like these changes tend to be casuals and the people who hate things tend to be the more fanatical people. And in the end, you either bend over backwards for their specific take or actively avoid it with a change. Look at Chinatown. People liked Chinatown. People wanted a reprint of Chinatown. Some people said the theming of Chinatown was sorta of good because "it promotes the immigrant experience of working hard for success" whilst at the same time criticised it because they thought the box art was a bit lazy or even potentially offensive/racist. But to REALLY stretch things, the board represents city blocks, and some easter eggs on the board included car crashes and some people claimed "the car crashes on the board are playing into a stereotype that asians are bad drivers!" (Many board games have boards with easter eggs, Scythe's board is FILLED with easter eggs/vignettes. Having stuff happening in a city on a board is not racism.)There is a Family Guy joke about the FCC:https://youtu.be/0SBu2FsVTtA>Gentleman, we got 20 calls about the David Hyde Pierce incident and as you know, 1 call equals a billion people, which means 20 billion people were offended by this. Needless to say, something must be done.20 people criticise something on the gulag and all of a sudden board game companies treat it like 20,000 potential customers. Chinatown was rethemed to Waterpark. The people who vaguely praised it as well as criticising it then got mad because "it was an opportunity to hire Asian artists in the creative process!" But they only knee jerked BECAUSE a few people go nuts over every little thing.
>>97023390nta but you mind elaborating?
Is coffee rush actually good? Thinking of picking it up after I saw a few anons talking about it here. It looks like simple fun time, just wondering how challenging/mileage you'd get out of it.
>>97023517NTA but either he doesn't think For Sale is fun or he thinks the game has a low skill floor. The former is an indefensible position but the latter is reasonable.
>>97023511Get over it.
>>97023734nta but it would be easier to get over if it stopped happening. I'm no chud, I happen to enjoy the fact that minority representation sends chuds off the deep end, and yet it is still getting tiresome because it is so repetitive and predictable. >"That's right everyone, a BROWN person wants to play autistic point salad!"all well and good. but they don't seem to do that or want to. and that doesn't seem to have changed or be likely to change.
>>97023734'no'
I don't give a fuck about fantasy blacks, but when it's something that is an established community, that's when it's actually annoying. I don't want to see brown vikings. Unfortunately, marketers know that it's easier to stand out through uproar. Picture two games: one with a white viking crew, or le nigerian vikingsOne of these options doesn't actually need to be a good game to get people to buy it
>>97023511>20 people criticise something on the gulag and all of a sudden board game companies treat it like 20,000 potential customers.Board games have always capitulated too hard when presented with any challenge compared to practically everywhere else in geek culture. Settlers of Catan dropped the Settlers, just because it has bad connotations and people wanted to decolonise the space or something, even though Catan was, in lore, uninhabited (as well as being completely fictional). But then people were like:>URRM SAYING IT WAS UNIHABITED OR VIRGIN LAND IS LIKE WHAT COLONISTS DID IN AMERICA.
>>97023856>I don't want to see brown vikingsI don't care about seeing brown viking at all, but it would be trivial to re-theme to barbary corsairs sailing out of algeria. the laziness is more of a problem than the idealogy.
>>97023511>>97023873All this shit is just about theme and never really about the games.
I found a new thing that people get upset abouthttps://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3599994/bigotry-against-asexuals-within-a-gameGood luck to anyone trying to develop board games. Fuck navigating that sea of land mines
>>97024105>It seems like a micro-aggression that comes out of ignorance; a lack of respect or any understanding.>To make it more relatable to myself, I imagine a game saying "would you rather your genitals disappeared, or get covered in poop?">Honestly, if I could wave a magic wand and have my genitals replaced with a discreet pee hole without the risks of surgery I absolutely would.Why did I click that link.
>>97024105These are the sort of people would have a panic attack playing something stupid like Cards Against Humanity.
>>97024105Fuck you, anon
>>97024105game in question
>>97024105Anon, visiting>Forums/BoardGameGeek Community/Rainbow BGGersvindicates all those times we called you a faggot.
>>97024105
>>97023621Maybe the players on BGA are just pretty good or maybe I am retarded but it took me forever to get anywhere skill wise
I'm looking for something for a group of threeWe've exhausted Azul, Pandemic, and Mysterium. Tried a few more complicated games like Spirit Island or Arkham Horror and that didn't land, sadly. Anybody have any recommendations for a mid complexity game that doesn't take too long? I love my other players but it doesn't take long before the phones come out if they feel they're in a losing position.
>>97024428fairy tale
>>97024428This game rocks at 3.
>>97024428>We've exhausted Azul, Pandemic, and Mysterium. >PandemicDid you ever give Pandemic Legacy a go? It is like a campaign version of Pandemic with surprises along the way. Season 1 and Season 0 are very good. 2 is mediocre. Because it is a legacy game with surprises that get unlocked along the way it does have that feeling of keeping players locked wanting to know what happens next.
>>97018133kek the black guy is Jeremy Howard. He's a youtuber and reviews games. Remember the recent controversy over some zombie slave card or whatever? It's because that guy started complaining in a BGG thread.
>>97023795Black person*
>>97024518>Remember the recent controversy over some zombie slave card or whatever? It's because that guy started complaining in a BGG thread.What?
>>97024518>Jeremy HowardTo be fair, looking at it, I kind of get his point
>>97024527https://devirgames.com/announcement-about-the-game-ace-of-spades
Don't kill the thread with ragebait.
>>97024570CGE almost got cancelled for Codenames: Harry Potter.
>use the turn announcer bell when playing TTS with the boys because people sometimes check their phones or are alt-tabbed so it's useful>friend gets me a dinner bell as a joke gift for irl games>we end up using it, pretty useful since one is a dad and has to step away from the table sometimes>one sperg in our group gets visibly annoyed whenever the bell is rung>make direct eye contact with him when I end my turn and ring it
>>97024550>>97024549Unironically, what exactly is the problem with the cards, other than touching on a sensitive thematic
>>97024918Just that
>>97024918I think those cards are too on the nose to be honest.
>>97024924>>97024950Fair. I suppose it's just to be expected in this day and age. Mind that I am not particularly fond of the art, but I don't see a reason for this strong reaction. Like when slaves got replaced by Fakirs out of 5 tribes because reasons.
>>97025129I don't think his comment on bgg was that bad:>First I am not a race baiter or need attention. I'm a black man that recognizes history can be betrayed in educational form. This is not that, this is just in the name of fun. I also respect if you and I don't agree. I'm not sensitive...this is just BS, it's not just an oversight. Literally a black man in chains DROOLING. I will not be covering Devir Games or any by the artist. Jesus
>>97024714Honestly not a bad idea, but I think having a kid and the constant ringing of a bell would be counterproductiveI once tried passing a scepter or stupid hats to always know whose turn it is in ti4 Didn't work, as you might imagine.>wait whose turn is it>anon's holding the scepter>Oh, err, I think I forgot to pass it>well I already took my turn after anon>what's the last thing that happened?>I think anon used trade sc>Oh I didn't notice I was in talks with [anon2]>Oh you were being a necrophile bastard again? Is that why the lone destroyer sits out there?>I WILL holocaust your homeworld if you don't shut up>[banter]>wait whose turn is it
>>97024714
>>97024714>>97025178honestly if your group has degenerated this far into bourgeois indolence it is time to drop and run, maybe go full johatsu, definitely find a new hobby and new friends
>>97024549>>97024550>Blacks can't be criminals!!!! :OOkay
>>97024131to be fair, Cards Against Humanity sucks, and I wish those people would get a clue and play a better game where their sexuality is not part of the gameplay
>>97024714Props from outside the game box like that are a cool thing, yeah. I'm seriously considering getting either a gavel or a squeaky toy hammer to speed up the Agenda phase in TI4, just thinking which would be more annoying.>>97025178See, your error was giving it to all the players, instead of doing what games did since Blackjack and Monopoly and designating a dealer, whose job it is to keep track of the important moments that you can't outsource to all players collectively.
Thoughts on the Descent games?
>>97026394Just get shards of infinity
>>97026489>recommends deck builder instead of dungeon crawl?anon?
>>97026251>designating a dealerActually a good idea. We did that as well in ti4 as well, speaker actually got a gavel. Didn't work as intended because obviously the speaker would misuse his power plus nobody really gave a shit. We should probably combine the two and just make the speaker the dealer as you suggested
>>97023301All of the Joann fabrics locations closed in my neck of the woods :(
>>97026214Huh, are you retarded? It's about slavery, the card is a slave and a slaver.
>>97023795You’re the reason why it keeps happening and you don’t even realize it lmao
>>97024527this is the only controversy in the last like 15 years in games (board or video) that has been remotely reasonable.>>97023795What you fail to realize is that this mentality is quite literally why it keeps happening. People like Suzanne Sheldon have careers in the industry because they decided that the only way to market board games is to take advice from shut ins on bluesky to "own the chuds". The point is rage bait marketing, and it works because people who regurgitate social justice slogans are some of the least critical consumers out there despite what they say on social media. It's the same reason people melt down about Phil Elkund's 7 paragraph essay in Pax Pamir 1E despite never having played the game or even having read it because it argued being a colony was better than being a battleground/plaything of multiple empires. The reality is that board games don't have a lot going on, so the progressives in the hobby tilt at racist windmills that have never existed because black people by and large don't want to buy and play card and board games that are more complicated than Uno for the same reason most chinese people aren't playing 2k. They all just want a cool black friend, and instead of doing shit black people like they think if they put an obese black lesbian and a bisexual nigga from atlanta on the cover it's going to change the demographics of the space, and it doesn't.
>>97012875It's a side gig in the same way that most author's "speaking fees" are supplementary income
>>97026925>it's going to change the demographics of the space, and it doesn't.This. If you want to hang out with black people start watching basketball and football. Unfortunately the average board gamer still probably uses the phrase “sportsball” in current year so the thought of doing that is unconscionable to them.
So I know Lacerdas usually get dumped on here but I’m curious about Speakeasy. The theme is charming but obviously due to its newness I wonder if the hype is just honeymoon like usual.
>>97027170Middle of the road compared to his other games, the only thing interesting about it is that he somehow managed to make an area majority game a multiplayer solitaire.
>>97027559Now did you actually play it?
>>97025134The drooling is a bit much.
>>97027170>theme is charmingis it? I thought it was about prohibition but i didn't look into the game. what is it about?
>>97027774It's hilarious
>>97023876>it would be trivial to re-theme to barbary corsairs sailing out of algeriaNah. At least in Americaland general public sees vikings as cool, whereas if they know about the barbary corsairs it's probably because of American seamen being taken as slaves and the Marines going over to storm Tripoli Can't really turn barbary pirates into cool adventurers like viking are.
>>97024428>it doesn't take long before the phones come out if they feel like they're in a losing positionI'm going to guess that length of turn is playing a factor here. Hard to pull a phone out when it you're turn literally a minute after your last turn. So,>The King is Dead>Kronologic>Wiz-War
>>97024508>actually shilling pandemicCome on, at least do something like shill Renature
>>97027688I did because I enjoy Lacerda games, but everything he's released after On Mars has thus far been underwhelming.
What's something i can play with my mother that won't make me want to kill myself?
>>97027942I had success with my parents with Forbidden Jungle, but we didn't play it a ton of times.
>>97024428Paper Tales with both expansionsthere's a paste up on BGG for the french one
>>97027847you say this but these same people pretend like Spirit Island isn't mid because you kill whitey in the game.
>>97027942Pass the pigs, and quit bitching.
>>97027910Pandemic legacy was fun.
>>97027774It's a zombie, no? Is there some stereotype about black people drooling?
Is there going to be any good shit at PAX Unplugged this year? A friend of mine is going and asking me if there's anything he should keep his eye out for.
>>97028618Moytura and Top Frog.
>>97023128good. lords of waterdeep went out of print for like a year and the game shot up to $100 on ebay>>97024105these people want to feel oppressed so badly
>>97028618idk. Deckers, Wild Venture, Captains Chair if you can find it there.
>>97027783it's about blacks, italians, and jews being criminals in nyc. very "charming".
>>97024105>>97024276So let me get this straight, a game has cards of two different states to choose from and one card has "sexless marriage" and this person is upset because the implication society and game has is that sexless marriages are bad whilst them being asexual would be happy with a sexless marriage and think it is good. And it is a microaggression because whilst ignorant and not intended, it causes hurt. But why can't I say that they are causing a microaggression to me, my society and views, by implying that their ignorant and bigotted by implying sexless marriages are good? Is it simply because they would say "well I am more oppressed than you so I win"?
Some furry faggot complained on BGG about a Japanese game where you have to match dancing couples (men and women) because it reinforces "normative stereotypes" or some bullshit. Just the mere presence of regular men and women makes these freaks have a mental breakdown.
>>97029798HA! I see you too dared to check the gulag on Shall We Dance by Saashi & Saashi.I laughed when that Hong Kong poster simply told him to stop trying to push modern western values on Asian culture causing him to have a meltdown.I was talking about that shit to my friends last week and was tempted to post it here, but forgot to. It's as disgusting as it is pathetic.
>>97027688Well to do that he just needed to copy SETI's homework
>>97030021There's something so blackpilling about this considering the game is clearly based on older western values
>>97023511>Gentleman, we got 20 calls about the David Hyde Pierce incident and as you know, 1 call equals a billion people, which means 20 billion people were offended by this. Needless to say, something must be done.>20 people criticise something on the gulag and all of a sudden board game companies treat it like 20,000 potential customers.Fucking scary how accurate this is.
>>97030323I regretted not putting quotes around "western values" after posting, because as you said the game is based on older western customs. I get it, but never be blackpilled dude.
>>97026530some walmarts have fabric centers, not sure if they have neoprene
>>97024714>>97026251
>>97027942Jaipur if 2p, Century Spice Road if more. Kinda need more information.
>>97024428Roll for the GalaxyGreat Western TrailCentury Spice Road
>>97030837>Roll>Not RaceWhat the fuck, Roll fucking sucks man
>>97030021When the fuck did Western values become degeneracy and mental illness? Who is in charge of the West?
What's the best dungeon crawler game? What's the trick to making dungeon crawlers fun?
>>97026530Michael's got their inventory. Try there. Also, obligatory>we need to kill private equity before they hand victory to china
>>97030848Trannies love Roll for whatever reason.
What are some of the games where other players cannot drag you down (that much) if they are "stupid"? Or rather, the games where you do not have to negotiate with the table why they have to pull some moves, and can let them be "stupid" on their own. I'm trying to not have games be exclusively MPS and still have some kind of interaction, where other players' "misplays" do not have too severe consequences for the game state.Example:> Player X does not do crucial thing he must do so player Y does not run away with the game because he's pigeonholed into his own strategy, or thinks getting 3 points against all players now is better than player Y getting 10 points against everyone (including him) a turn or two from now.Games that do not fit this:> Cyclades> Hansa Teutonica> Puerto Rico> Inis> Root> Pax PamirGames that closely enough fit this:> Terraforming Mars> Beyond the Sun> Concordia> Lorenzo Il Magnifico> Tyrants of the Underdark> New Frontiers
>>97030926there aren't any good onesthere's no trick, it can't be done because good board games are mechanically elegant and good dungeon crawlers are mechanically bloated. the genres are diametrically opposed.
>>97030848Roll is for casuals, OP is definitely casual. For a long time it was my main to bring newbs in at meetups.
>>97030915some fat orange mcdonalds snarfing slob
>>97031014I disagree, the genre has potential it's just bogged down by overproduced kickstarter slop.
>>97031031overproduced kickstarter slop is what the dungeon crawler customer base wants
I can't get over this game bros
>>97031006literally any COIN game you wanna be a retard? cool, everyone else can have a good game now
>>97031006god I hate people who are too stupid to play right and thus fuck up your game. I played viticulture with a guy who refused to make alcohol because of religious beliefs, I was malding.
>>97030962>Michael's got their inventory. Try there.Thanks for the tip. I haven't been to Michael's in a while because the one closest to me is always a mess whenever I walk in. There's a better one on the other side of town however. Is Hobby Lobby any good in this regard? They opened one not too far from me but I haven't been in a while. >we need to kill private equity before they hand victory to chinabased.
>>97031319hobby lobby > michaels except in matters of being open sunday
I just played twenty back to back games of Tag Team in person.We could not stop.We tried different builds, pairings, swapped teams, losing never felt painful, just hungry for the next W.Bovdar is absolute pain to make work. Milady and her poison is a cancer, Wild Bunch and Ching is hilarious aggro rushdown pair, Shangos flames building up on a fighter is a nightmare to disrupt. I both want more characters and am hungry for next years expansion, while still feeling very satisfied with what is in that box.Might be my game of the year (though I barely play new releases anymore).A huge thanks to anonymous, youve done it again!
>>97031117With all of the new COINs and coin adjacent, counter insurgency games, what are the best ones that dont play 4h+? Are any of the new ones good compared to the older ones?
>>97024428Renature>>97027942Renature>>97031006NOT Renature, someone making a bad decision can definitely hand the game to someone else
>>97031609So of all the new games that you don't play what was said in anon's post that convinced you to try and buy this game?>>97031120What religion is against alcohol?
>>97030926Its Gloomhaven >but what about Its Gloomhaven. And if you don't like Gloomhaven then you aren't going to like dungeon crawlers. >>97031014>there's no trick, it can't be done because good board games are mechanically elegant and good dungeon crawlers are mechanically bloated. the genres are diametrically opposed.If you're playing games for how elegant they are you should be playing Go. If you aren't playing Go then you don't actually value elegance in games, you value simplicity. These are different things.
>>97031661I cant recall the specifics of what were said, but it got me to check out a few reviews, added it to a cart full of xmas gifts for my children on a whim as it was cheap so no loss if it sucked, and that's all she wrote.
>>97031643The British Way is ace. China's War arrived, haven't tabled it yet.
>>97031117>you wanna be a retard? cool, everyone else can have a good game nowThis is a fucking lie lmao>>97031643Don't listen to him. The only COINs worth anything ends with Fire in the Lake and if you play like a retard you will ruin the entire game for everyone.
>>97031665I don't like the card system. If I play any other dungeon crawler if I want to attack I just roll some dice but in gloomhaven I need just the right card. The game becomes about what card you have rather than what gear or treasure you brought.
>>97031783>If I play any other dungeon crawler if I want to attack I just roll some diceJust say you want to play Pathfinder without saying you want to play Pathfinder
>>97031661Muslims, Buddhists, Jains, and Sikhs.
Has anybody around here played pic related? I'm really getting tempted to buy this because I love the theme (the Prestige is one of my favorite movies), but I've never seen anyone mention it. Seems to be well-rated, too.
>>97031853fuck... pic related
>>97031853Too long.
>>97030926Seconding Gloomhaven. >What's the trick to making dungeon crawlers fun?Power fantasy and feeling of progression, whether it's through levelling up, gear, or other aspects. Both of which Gloomhaven has in spades, though it can feel slow particularly in the levelling department. We go through 2-3 scenarios per meet up, and some evenings we don't level up once. It's kind of necessary for how huge the game is though, and the scenarios are varied enough that it's not really an issue.The thing Gloomhaven nails though is that it's an actual game and not a brain dead dice chucker. It forces you to think about how to use your actions, which means that you get to have an actual sense of accomplishment when you beat a scenario. I think people who derisively call it a puzzle game are offended by this aspect in particular, and that's the most mental part.>>97031014>muh eleganceGet off /bgg/ and go grind your abstracts. Nobody gives a fuck about your autistic need to have 1 page rules in a game, and nobidy ever will.
>>97031783Yeah you’re not gonna like dungeon crawlers if you don’t like Gloomhaven.
>>97031096Why would you want to get over it?
>>97031986False
Thoughts on Arydia? Shit looks massive but is it worth it?
>>97032014True, actually
>>97032016This game has the best balance between exploration/story and combat out of any campaign game I've played. Most others are mostly combat (Gloomhaven, Tales of the Red Dragon Inn) or mostly exploration/story (7th Citadel, Sleeping Gods, Tainted Grail). Unlike the exploration/story campaigns, combat in this one is a lot of fun instead of feeling like a chore you have to get through.
>>97032072I like other dungeon crawlers and I dislike Gloomhaven.
>>97031609There seems to be a huge discrepancy in what people think of it. The ones who insist that it is first and foremost a skill game (with a memory aspect) that goes extremely deep for the game's weight and playtime... and those who insist it is inherently chaotic and impossible to calculate; a single slot difference between what you expect they'll do has massive chaotic consequences downstream.Without having played it I tend to believe the latter, but I'd have to try it.
>>97031006This is futile and just leads back to MPS. It's like a squared circle or rock god can't lift. If misplays don't affect the game state severely, it definitionally isn't high interaction.
>>97032145This. Interaction necessitates at least some level of fragility.
>>97031910I like long games. How does it play?
>>97031096the double stack factory monolith is so funny to me. i hadn't even considered doing it until a teammate of mine did once, and it seems like it was potentially intended, but i find it very silly
>>97031609You're welcome anon. Glad you enjoy it
>>97031857>>97031910I've only played it twice, so take this with a grain of salt. It's a pleasingly tight worker placement game, but it really wants you to replay it a lot; a core part of the game are the tricks you perform, and the game lets you jump through a multitude of hoops to get there; learn it, get the materials for it, prepare it, get the right slot, perform it. Now, because materials are a pain to get and you kinda want to perform tricks of the same school of magic (can't remember if that gets you bonusses or disencourages you from going wide), you should have a relatively good idea which trick you'll get during the course of the game. That's quite a bit of mental work and I do prefer to initially play games by gut to get a feeling for them, so that might've been a problem. Trickerion also has this very weirdly convoluted system of who performs which trick when. Takes up a significant amount of the rulesload yet is almost entirely irrelevant. The rulebook also is subpar and you REALLY shouldn't play without the dark alley module. All in all it's fine. As anon said, I found it too long and not interesting enough, despite liking the theme. I could see the experience being much better if you like to go in deep and think about trick sequencing before the game really starts, but it didn't really sway me after two games. Additionally, it's one of the games you need to at least skip through the rulebook if you haven't played it in a few months. Wait I need to prepare the tricks on my personal board before using them, even if it's two fucking rings, right? Do I lose the resources? Can I learn ANY trick or just the one at the top? And such.6/10, good game I won't play again.
>>97031096>>97032389Yeah I had the same moment of wait what the fuck is that followed by the oh ofc it's the two-factory stack that takes less space and is more visibile. It's a bit weird, I agree.
>>97031096>>97032462>>97032389While we are on the topic of la famiglia>Red family controlling most mandamentiI found red to be very much bottom tier trash. Still good enough to play it, but significantly worse than yellow and especially blue. The only time I've liked red is when the gunboat card came up. Maybe I've been playing them wrong, but red seemed to be all about them boats. Which is suprising and works exactly once per game, then everyone is very aware of suprise attacks
>>97032452Thanks for the response. Sounds like it could be a hit or miss (75% chance of that) so I'll strangle my temptations a bit.>hnnnngThere. Now I'm getting Civolution because it's been shilled to hell and back and there's a slight discount at my LGS.>Additionally, it's one of the games you need to at least skip through the rulebook if you haven't played it in a few months.>monthsThat's literally every game I play. Even a few weeks is long enough to need a refresher on one rule or another. I envy your memory.
>>97009551Der gute Doktor wakes up strapped to the gurney. He attempts to rise up but the straps are too strong. Before he begins to panic, the smiling Devil with pliers for the right hand says "Welcome to Hell. Hope you survive the experience". Doktor: "Wha-what do you mean???" Devil: "I believe a human body is finished when there is nothing more to be taken away and still leave a good body. Let's start... with toenails". Even before Devil starts Doktor begins to scream. And screams for a long, long time.
>>97032512What made you not only think about this but actively choose to type this out and post it, anon?
>>97032582I hate such smartass quotes like "less is more" or "An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity". (In one of Discworld novels the philosopher makes a Pascal Wager á rebours: "Let's do whatever you want to. Either there's no God or He'll forgive you." And since it's Discworld, after death the philosopher meets a bunch of angry Gods with heavy sticks who say "We'll show you what we think about such jokesters as you.")
>>97032598But anon, constraints breeds creativity.Its why Sakura Arma is so bloody brilliant.
>>97032598Idk, it's not like it's completely wrong. Just been uttered again and again by simpletons trying to be deep or justify their incapability to learn something complex. Doesn't make the quote wrong, though.
>>97032469I think Yellow and Blue are really strong. Yellow has excellent economy and Blue can support with beastly initiative bombs to clear up the path for their teammate.Red has some good aggression control tiles that combo well with their natural spawn progression on the Police track. with good car support and the double shotguns I could mobilize a lot of people to to take over areas relatively easy.The one I can't seem to grasp yet is Green; it's like the balanced faction but because of that I feel I can't find its strengths quick enough to support or take the initiative.
Cole is really losing it baka
You would too if you had to keep making Root expansions
>>97033056Pretty sure none of the expansions are directly designed by him, he's just a consultant.
>>97033063The first expansion that was true for is the clockwork expansion.
>>97033056I'd just use AI :)
>>97033006What are you talking about?
>>97033075Here you go:The Pine Marten SentriesA nimble, territorial patrol faction built around ambush, lookout posts, and reactive defense.ThemePine martens are solitary, agile hunters who guard the treetops.This faction represents a loose network of vigilant sentries who coordinate through signals and lookout perches to police key forest routes.How They Play (concise)Perches (Buildings):Light, elevated lookout posts placed in clearings.Perches extend Line of Sight along connected paths.They grant bonuses when enemies move or battle near them.Sentry Tokens:Small ambush-style tokens placed on paths or in clearings.Trigger when an enemy moves through: either slow them, deal a hit, or let you reposition.Alert Track:A simple momentum track that rises when their tokens trigger or when they successfully defend.Higher Alert levels grant extra reactions, movement, or card draw.Territorial Scoring:Score for maintaining Perches in unbroken chains and for controlling “high-traffic” clearings (i.e., where enemies moved last turn).Playstyle SummaryA reactive, area-controlling skirmish faction that rewards prediction and clever placement.They don’t dominate with raw numbers—they win by making the forest dangerous to cross.
>>97033151The great part about AI is that you don't need a game designer anymore, so the profits can go directly to the company instead.
I now get why people shit on bga. I forgot my premium ran out and kept wondering why the search queueing suddenly took like 2 days instead of 5 minutes. The difference is absolutely insane, I played a whole game of knarr every day, now I have been waiting for one for 4 days. Using it this way is decidedly less convenient and fun.For the record, I still think 40 euros is a small price for the sheer amount of games try out and play, but it's getting into 'is this really necessary' territory.
>>97033151garbage in -> garbage out :^
>>97009551>Which board game is art?Photosynthesis, too bad it's shit>Favorite game with a timer?Meeple Circus>Confess your bgg sinsI unironically enjoy Space Base
>>97033258how is that great? great for whom?
>>97034821Companies are people too
>>97034821I think anon was sarcastic about itNot like it could come up with a good and coherent original ruleset anyway. But let's see the good: I expect there to be vastly fewer shitty translations of rulebooks in the future
>>97035089>I expect there to be vastly fewer shitty translations of rulebooks in the futureDon't. Crunchyroll is already using LLMs to translate anime and it's somehow worse than before.
>>97035089combinatorial iteration is a valid design method. AI tools are as applicable to game design as they are to anything else; the fact that most people are just going to generate trash doesn't mean much.
>>97030926I haven't played either, but oathsworn seems better regarded by the genpop of no friends for d&d that most seem to enjoy these dull affairs and mage knight better regarded here. I have played a little Gloomhaven and the idea that you can't loot after a battle is so contrived and inane I just tapped out. To me it is a seriously retarded game on some fundamental levels even if it's light tactics rpg combat is okay to good.
>>97036129I think a lot of people who get really invested into the Haven system rarely mention how fucking god awful base Gloomhaven is to onboarding.I think I played the first scenario like 3 times before we beat it proper, and it was because people couldn't crack how to actually handle the combat encountersAlso...I think it's just a genuinely difficult scenario, considering that the ones after are much easier for a long time afterJaws of the Lion is just a better game overall honestly, because I don't think the city phase adds much to OG Gloomhaven
>>97036129>To me it is a seriously retarded game on some fundamental levels even if it's light tactics rpg combat is okay to good.Not letting you loot is a very intentional decision. You not liking it doesn't make it fundamentally retarded.
>>97036129Oh God it's the retarded "I cant loot at the end" comment again
>>97036334>>97036338The lack of looting is probably the most indicative aspect of Gloom's surface level design thoughA purely mechanical element with no thematic grounding under the guise of providing pressure but with the real intention of preventing the systematic combat from feeling any more dull than it is. Surely if it was an actual ""RPG"" you'd give the players the decision to distribute the loot or not. If not, then funny how no other dungeon crawler/hex battler/scenario slop has this issue.
>>97036600It's not an RPG. It does provide pressures into the system. It's better than most other dungeon crawlers.
>>97036600Anon that’s the entire fucking point. Gloomhaven is good because it *isn’t* pretending to be a shitty pseudo-RPG. It’s a board game with board game style mechanical interactions, with enough theme to be flavorful without it interfering with the mechanics.
>>97036764>Gloomhaven is good because it's badokay
>>97036734You are what you spend your time on, solitairefag.
>>97036897>incapable of understanding anything I accept your concession
>>97036129>have played a little Gloomhaven and the idea that you can't loot after a battle is so contrived and inane I just tapped out.I haven't played gloomhaven in ages. Can you explain what this means?
>>97036764Not really sure what you mean by this. Gloomhaven is pretending to be a gamebook like fabled lands and the the game's interactivity is the best part, not the card combat.
>>97037219If you’re boiling Gloomhaven’s encounter design as “card combat” I don’t really know what to say to you anon. Utilizing your character’s tools to solve the puzzle of each scenario IS the game.
>>97030690>Kinda need more information.She wants to 'do something' for my birthday, while i want to avoid 'doing anything'. Playing a new game came up as a possible middle ground, among other things. It'd probably be just us. Co-op games are a non starter. Something MPS adjacent wouldn't be bad. Something fun to lose. Even if it's something that would be unfitting on paper, but would have non immediate value (such as playing with other people later), then i could stomach it. I've played 2player Inis with her a few times, and that went well enough. If there doesn't seem to be anything good enough, i'll just think of something else to do. Maybe we could paint miniatures? Has anyone tried that sort of thing? I've also been thinking about just getting some digimon starter decks/boosters packs, but i'm unsure how that would go over.
>>97030690>Even if it's something that would be unfitting on paper, but would have non immediate value (such as playing with other people later), then i could stomach it.Meaning of the suggestions, Century Spice Road seems the best to me, over all.How is Wingspan actually? It might be worth getting just for the memes.
>>97037233I'm looking for a board game, not MTG with miniatures.
How do we feel about Frosthaven? I like the town builder aspect of it, and it seems like the new characters and effects in the game were intriguing.
>>97037265Yeah that’s why Gloomhaven is the best dungeon crawler: it’s a board game first and foremost and knows it.
>>97037233I just don't like not being able to do a certain move because I discarded it. In descent my guy has skills but the don't get discarded most of the time.
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>>97037281>card game combat>board gameNo.
>>97036734Your average /vm/fag everybody
>>97037363easily the most retarded take ever posted
>>97037431What part of "I don't want to play MTG" do you not understand?
>>97037363>replace dice rolls with a deck of cards instead>as you grow stronger you can remove undesirable results and add even higher ones into the mix (simulating more or bigger die)>suddenly no longer a board game It's a dice system you can modify. That would be plenty challenging to do with a real die.
>>97037326You value simplicity. That's fine. But complexity and quality are totally divorced and that goes in both directions. Plenty of complex games are excellent and I'm sorry you can't enjoy them. >>97037363You people are fucking unbelievable lmao
>>97037451If you think every usage of cards is MtG then you need to play more games
>>97037451if you think resolving combat steps is playing magic then you don't know anything about magic OR card games
>>97037482It works differently than a dice thoever due to you not reshuffling until a crit or miss
>>97037482>That would be plenty challenging to do with a real die.idk my neighbor wanted printed dice and they came out pretty good. I think you could do custom dice pretty easy like 2-7 or 2-12 there are already six-sided d3 and all kinds of other fucked up versions, making color coded modded dice might be feasible.
>>97038318>and they came out pretty good.How fair do they roll?
>>97038336more fair than my old plastic chessex. the whole point was she bought a bunch of dice and they wouldn't float so these were made to float but they're so lite they don't seem to be biased. I choose 2 walls and 2 top with 10% gyroid infill (because it's 3d and doesn't bias as much as directional). to be fair I didn't actually roll them but they were better than I expected.
>>97037267really cool character design and scenario design on average is pretty interesting. honestly i could leave the town building, but it's a nice sense of progression
>>97037451"ah yes let me pul out my miniatures for the weekly game of Magic the Gathering, i discard a card face down to move two hexes, that's a thing we do here in MTG" said nobody ever
>>97037451Genuine question, is dune (2019) combat also mtg?
>>97037285I haven't played Descent but I already know it's shit. You know how? See what that bag upfront contains?One more confirmation that people who don't like Gloomhaven are dice brained morons.
>>97039029>waaaah they have a mechanic i dunt like waaaah mommy save meback in my day trolling used to be more creative than this
>>97039139>wahhhh i just want to roll some dice why is the game making me thinkretard
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