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gotta fly fast!
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>>97016073
You will fear the Cheetah F-11 as it medium pulses you over and over
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>Just realized that the Summoners are equipped with multiples tons of L/SRM ammos and only one ton of LBX ammo
wut
why
how much of fuss will people make if I ask if you'll be ok with me playing it with 2 tons of LBX and 1 ton of XRM
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>>97016291
>how much of fuss will people make
A whole fucking lot. Don't bring customs to a pickup game without express permission. Mechs are deliberately designed to have flaws, and how you work around those flaws is part of the skill curve of the game.
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>>97016291
At least it doesn't have the problem that quite a few Clan designs have in that they'll have a single ton of LRM20 ammo or single ton of gauss.
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>>97016291
>>Just realized that the Summoners are equipped with multiples tons of L/SRM ammos and only one ton of LBX ammo
wut
why

Because, since the very beginning of Battletech, far too many of those involved with mech design are below base-line retarded faggots.

>how much of fuss will people make if I ask if you'll be ok with me playing it with 2 tons of LBX and 1 ton of XRM

Depends on those you play with. Me, I would agree that an LBX autocannon having only one round of ammo is retarded and gay, and allow your swap.

There are many mechs that suffer from similar retarded faggotry.

BTW .5 ton ammo should be a thing in this game no matter the type.

FIX IT ALREADY
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>waiting for the kurita lance packs
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>>97016406
>BTW .5 ton ammo should be a thing in this game no matter the type.
B-but muh one shots! :^)
>>97016413
CGL does not honor the dragon!
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>>97016413
Feb 2016, they announced
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>>97016476
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>>97016476
Fuck, 2026.
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>>97016406
>FIX IT ALREADY
No. Kill yourself. I'd rather see BattleTech die entirely than be reduced to flawless, optimized, designs.
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>>97016063
Who's the hottest babe in BT?
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>>97016291
>how much of fuss will people make if I ask if you'll be ok with me playing it with 2 tons of LBX and 1 ton of XRM
Some people will throw a massive tantrum at even being asked that. Others will simply just say no. Others like me will allow that and other minor customizations like removing a PPC capacitor for more armor or an extra heatsink.
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>>97016752
Melissa Steiner
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>>97016715
> No. Kill yourself. I'd rather see BattleTech die entirely than be reduced to flawless, optimized, designs.

Go be a queer on your own time, not mine.
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>>97016476
>Feb 2016, they announced

Any other updates, like the Illician Lancers B&N exclusive?
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Is there a use for this turd other than acting as a speed bump? It does an amazing job as a speed bump but I dont know what the fuck else to do with it.
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>>97016752
Some of the new art is pretty good.
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>>97016063
>Defender
>Protector
>Guardian
>Preceptor
The OA has some damn cool enlisted rank titles.
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>>97016715
>be reduced to flawless, optimized, designs
Yep, absolutely this — you can always tell a faggot by them insisting on doing this
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>>97016406
Take a fucking alternate ammo type if it bothers you. Under standard rules you could take smoke, frag or narc. Under advanced, you have the option of heat seekers or swarm; those seem more Clan-like in their application.

Multiple bins are an opportunity if you're not a retard.
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>>97016956
Kind of crazy that they copied the designs from a setting where some advanced electronics can't function properly, so you have to physically look through glass to see anything, and they came up with totally different tech explanations that don't explain why everything has glass everywhere.
And then when people said
>uhhh so why the huge glass cockpits?
They just said
>it's not glass and they see through cameras and don't ask where the cameras are or why they have glass everywhere but also it's still a weak point
And they've been running with that the whole time.
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>>97017202
It's not glass.
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>>97017202
I don't really give a shit what the powers that be say, mech cockpits may be fed a number of displays from external cameras, but the cockpits must also have thick armored glass-- probably some clear aluminum-oxynitride derivative or similar. It doesn't make sense to have pilots blinded by power failures, nor does it make sense to have head armor be so minimal unless there are reasons you can't armor them as adequately as the torso.

They're probably a multi-layered laminate and internal projectors overlay onto these windshield layers (or through the neurohelmet) to overlay tactical information, improve visibility and provide night-vision, infrared and other sensor functionalities.

It's a weird fucking hill to die on to declare 'the windows we've modeled and painted on all the fucking models aren't windows'
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>>97017271
>probably, probably, probably
Buddy, it's called Armaglass and it's literally clear mech armor. You can armor a whole mech in it like a special edition gundam model. You are right about it being derived from transparent aluminum, though.
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>>97016291
>omnimech
>with a different load out in its pods

REEE IT R AN CUSTOM REEEE!

FUCKOFF WAACFAG.
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>>97016715
Go die in a fire you disingenuous fuck.

Everyone KNOWS the NEA rule of cautious mech adjusting.
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>>97017287
Well that's what they call it in a different general, for sure.
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>>97016752
I like the Sneede girl. Might just place mercs going forward. Kinda tired of factions.

>>97016855
I forgot that existed. Is it one of the weird 3050s designs?
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I know that Battle Armor isn't to scale on the metal minis, but how do you feel about the idea of something like some versions of the Inner Sphere Standard being 3-4 meters tall and piloted like a vehicle like a Kanazuchi instead of being only a bit bigger than a person.
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>>97017373
I have custom models of the Marauder BA and it can be done. If you dont want to print it, juat scrounge up some Dark Age minis
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>>97016715
>>97016956
>noooo designs have flaws!!!
>real life military equipment
>nearly identical across the board with only minor differences
No fuck you, building retarded shit on purpose for "flavor" is the most retarded shit imaginable, real flavor is putting equipment into positions it was never intended for, like Rifleman mechs as frontline brawlers or Chargers as stock.
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>>97017637
Real life military equipment regularly has what many people would view as flaws, yes. The further back you go, the more severe and numerous they get.
An obvious modern example would be how many current MBTs have significant portions of their frontal armor completely unprotected by composite(and as far as modern AT weapons are concerned, no composite means no armor at all).
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>>97017637
Also, real life military equipment didn't become so indistinguishable until the mid 80's at the earliest, and many find that homogenization extremely boring.
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>>97016752
I like Avitue. Shorty's giving them hello kitty girl, grippy socks and grippy pussy kinda vibes.
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>>97017373
I dislike it. It reduces BA to tiny Mechs instead of something you wear. But it's been in the game since almost the first IS BA (the Sloth has it), so...
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>>97016715
Customization rules are part of the BT ruleset and I don't need your permission to use them. They're part of the rules. If I want to tie up with custom Mechs, I will do so, and you don't get a choice about either to play me or not. My SiG will see to that. Nobody has the right to refuse to play against custom designs.
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>>97016855
It's like a valkyrie that wants to brawl. I guess you can use it to guard a slow min range mech against fast flankers, 5/8/5 isn't so terrible if they're running towards you. You could also maybe fight BA?
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>>97017709
>and grippy pussy

If you stuck your cock into Avitue, I'd only give you 50/50 odds of getting it back.
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>>97016752
Yvonne Steiner-Davion
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>>97017709
>Avitue
>grippy pussy
Isn't she literally the cybernetic WOB slut who has a TSM-enhanced pussy to go along with the pheromone emitters and variable size tit implants?
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>>97016752
That one Canopian who sucked and fucked her way through the entire command staff of the occupation army after losing the Reunification War.
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>>97017867
No that's just you being a degenerate coomer who injects your fetishes into everything.
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I adjust my Warhammers to have more armor because it doesn't need that 1 ton of MG ammo and small lasers :^)
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I love battletech but why do you get some people insisting it's not inspired by eastern mech designs? Battletech is the very picture of eastern mecha.
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>>97017887
>people
That's an odd way to spell 'trolls'.
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>>97016752
>Who's the hottest babe in BT?
Used to be NEA (picrel), but twink death comes for everyone. These days, it's probably Kim Petras. German-American who's confirmed to play both BT and AS and showed up at PAX West this year for BT games.
>I just realized that NEA was probably the inspiration for the artwork of Avitue >>97017867. The nose and hairline and general face structure is really close, and NEA was supposed to get canonized in WOB for that decade of fucking up Gencon events
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>>97017287
Alternatively named Ferroglass, but an important point is that you probably can't use it as a replacement. Call it game rules but head sections do only get 9 points of armor normally. It is more fragile than normal armor or otherwise has limitations on thickness. Also because its called ferroglass they might not be aluminum; I do understand that transparent alumin is their real inspiration.

Actually did transparent metal even exist when ferroglass as a concept was written? Or is it a retcon explanation?
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>>97017947
It's always been that, just like the magnetic jar containment of the fusion engine. Those are old engineering things.
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Just got my hands on the Battletech Aces box and honestly it looks promising. Going to delve into a couple games and let you know how it goes.
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>>97017887
>Battletech is the very picture of eastern mecha.
Wrong and DIAF.
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Man I can't wait for Black Friday, gonna get my first metal mini from IWM. Anything I should know before hand? I heard I ought to wash it first, should I sand it too?
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>>97016752
A Blakist chick with a big ass.
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>>97017966
Wash it with dish soap and a toothbrush to get rid of the mold release. Use a real primer. Pin it, if it is heavy. Have some kind of blue tac or clay to hold it in position as the glue dries.

You should file the mold lines too. General sanding serves no purpose.
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>>97017942
The original art doesn't look like that at all. Legends is so fucked.
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>>97017981
They just traced Liliana Vess for that
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>>97017887
>why do you get some people insisting it's not inspired by eastern mech designs?
He says posting a Macross gif...
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>>97017960
Pic related and the power armor from Starship Troopers are probably the only true "western" mech designs.
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>Planning a game to use my laser dinosaur minis
>Decide to make them a blakist experiment
>Check out the Hidden Worlds
>Their cybernetics research center is Jardine, a world ruled by Blakists but otherwise a volcanic jungle world populated by the low tech descendants of polynesian tribesmen
This is the perfect thing to drop a bunch of laser dinosaurs into. The players will be a multinational force sent to investigate Jardine who find themselves desperately swarmed by cybernetically-modified dinosaurs. Tyrannosaurs with laser arrays and Manei Dominei riding raptors and wielding tandem charge lances. Anklyosaurs with turbloblazer turrets. Stegosaurs with VIBROBLADE THAGOMIZERS.

I am going to go 100% over the top with this and have fun doing it. I'll be making Abomination stars for the laser dinos, too, since I got given a free Gothic rulebook for this.
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>>97018012
Meant to use this picture
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>>97018008
>tentacles
Clearly stolen from Japan. Americans don't make anything original, anon. They just steal and claim they made it. No American has ever come up with anything original and good.
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>>97017887
a. Probably racist boomers who literally just didn't know any better and genuinely thought robotech was an american cartoon, and anime is porno with super saiyans
b. Uninformed newbies/outsiders/secondaries swept up in the culture created by said boomers, might know about the anime connection but insists it's different for vague reasons, usually comes to like mechs in general if they actually watch any of it
c. Literally only likes mechwarrior. Hates all other mechs. Hates battletech the more they learn about it. Solely wants a big brown brick that stumbles around like it has an anal fissure and thinks raising your arms to shoot over terrain is a silly cartoonish fantasy. Will reply to this with a gigachad image unironically, is still copying anime.
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>>97018034
H.G. Wells was English...
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>>97017966
In addition to what the other guy said, you're gonna need to varnish it once you're done painting. Even with primer, paint can flake off of metal pretty easily.
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>>97017637
>building retarded shit on purpose for "flavor" is the most retarded shit imaginable
It turns out that NO U
Please go back to playing vidya, you are not ready for table top games (not that you actually play them)
Unlike StarCraft, BattleTech is a game about its setting and that includes the inefficiencies of that would arise in a realistic historical situation
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>>97018121
>It turns out that NO U
Please go back to playing vidya, you are not ready for table top games (not that you actually play them)
Unlike StarCraft, BattleTech is a game about its setting and that includes the inefficiencies of that would arise in a realistic historical situation

“You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded”
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>>97017887
>why do you get some people insisting it's not inspired by eastern mech designs?
Does anyone actually claim BattleTech is not inspired by Japanese designs?
I have not really seen that. What I have seen is people arguing that BattleTech (and “Western Mecha” more generally) diverged from Japanese mecha aesthetics as both went on to develop since the 1980s.
Insisting otherwise would be like insisting that the BattleTech cartoon is ‘anime.’
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>>97018012
>>97018020
Sauce on the Dinoriders? I need them for reasons.
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>>97018178
>nooo the devs must optimize and balance
That is talking like a faggot and that shit is all retarded.
>>97017966
>>97018058
Note that gloss varnish is for protection, matte (or ‘anti-shine’ or dulcote or whatever other commercial terms) is just to dull the gloss. Applying varnish can be pretty sensitive to humidity (and thus temperature). Read up on this to avoid (and learn how to fix) fogging.
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>>97018202
nta but you may want to look at Traders Galaxy (Australian one-man company) — check under BotWar, the faction you’re after is called Red Star Nations
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>>97018020
>>97018202
NTA, but I think those are from Microworld games. I can vouch that they sell some pretty neat stuff. Some of the items on their website are listed as out of stock, but if you can contact them they'll try to speed up on stocking that item.
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>>97018183
>diverged from Japanese mecha aesthetics as both went on to develop since the 1980s
I feel like they mostly went through the same grittifying arc. It's the same concepts as old but with more edge and 'tude. A modern shadowhawk to its older art isn't so different to what they were doing with designs like the GM line that always needed more of a facelift.
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>>97018204
>nooo the devs must optimize and balance

You’re the only faggot here saying “optimized and balance”

Maybe come up with your own thoughts vs saying what the guy that’s pounding your weak ass is whispering in your ear.

“Muh flaws”
“Muh optimized”
“Muh Nooooo”

Like was stated before, be a queer AND retarded on your own time.
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>>97018178
Learn how to quote posts.
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>>97018370
nah there has been a very definite divergence
>>97018382
reddit spacing
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>>97018437
The only thing diverging is your asscheeks.
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This guy can’t stop thinking about homosex
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I know Matt Plog's a weeb, was the Spectre inspired by Kallen's Knightmare from Code Geass?
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What mech would he use
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>>97018504
I don't really see a resemblance aside from having a hunch neck. It doesn't have the elongated claw-gun arm or forward chest that all the Gurren models have. The plain, straight legs and lack of feet are weird.
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>>97017947
The RPG gave hardness values for different materials, and ferroglass is slightly less hard than mech armor. It's still about as hard as steel, though, so it's not super brittle or anything, but if you did decide to replace all armor with it you would lose some durability (that's also why the mechs with big bubble cockpits or a ton a windows get the weak head armor quirk).
Though I bet there's been at least one Solaris fighter who said fuck it to the slight armor loss, transparent armor is just cool.
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>>97018556
I was also thinking of the right arm being vaguely similar to the massive claw arm and the fact that it's a vibro claw making me think it had to be intentional somehow
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Mechs with weapons for multiple ranges and just enough sinks to handle them > oversinked mechs for just one range bracket.
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>>97016926
She's 51 years old?!?

Must be a descendant of Katheryn Winnick
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>>97016782
Indeed.
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>>97017981

That's supposed to be Namah of the 49th Shadow Division.
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>>97016752
Victor Steiner-Davion, the big girls blouse.
>>97018653
I have never understood anyone who complained it had overheating problems. The only issue would be if you are a smooth brained retard whose approach to combat is to smash your face against the fire everything button?
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>>97018653

Speaking of the Stalker, given it has 2 LRM-10 launchers, can it function as a long range support platform like the Catapult and Longbow?
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>>97018653
How about a mech with just enough heatsinks and a single range bracket that covers everything?
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>>97018801
80 year olds can look like supermodels in BT, anon. Not even meming, Natasha was a swimsuit model tier up until the day she died. Battletech isn't IRL. Women in that setting don't hit the wall when they turn 16.
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>>97018653
Why does it have LRM9s? Or are those SRM9s?
>if those were ATM9s then it make sense
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>>97018849
>Clan Hell's Horse Star (Quarter 4 2025 Release)
>Adder A
>Doom Courser
>Cygnus
>Hellstar
>Hellbringer E
>Epona x2
Looking foward to it
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>>97017453
Is that the Japanese Marauder redesign or something else? Because I kinda love it.
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>>97018843
You don't want to field and assault mech to do something a Dervish could do. You're supposed to fire your LRMs as you're closing in to SRM and ML range. There are variants that swap put stuff for more LRMs tho.
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>>97018873
I like it, did they make a Naga II too?
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>>97018839
>I never understood anyone who complained a mech that easily generates twice its heat sinking capacity per turn has overheating problems
Well a lot of mechs don't have the issue that half their arsenal is sitting out the battle as paperweights even when targets are within optimal range.
It's not even like you're completely free to just fire away with either the long range weapons or short range weapons. The long range weapons alone overwhelm its heatsinks, as do the short range weapons if it's moving.
The stalker is specifically built to leave either half of its firepower unused depending on how close or far its opponent is lest it spontaneously combust and it dedicates a lot of tonnage to doing that. Some are not fond of that approach.
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>>97018873
It looks strangely out of place compared to a lot of MWO designs, maybe it's the texture. Looks like it's made of plastic.
>>97018876
No, that's the marauder.
Marauder battle armor.
>it looks kind of like the mech
I assume that's intentional.
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>>97018653
>>97018839
If LRMs were a bit less shit, maybe
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>>97018888
That is their Naga II anon?
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>>97018904
I don't recall II having hands, do you have a screenshot of the prime variant with the cool big guns?
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>>97018914
Naga II A has hand actuators in the Right arm.
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>>97018922
Also forgot the H variant as well.
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>>97018922
Ew
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>>97018882

Ah. Now that I got Megamek in one of my two computers, I assume I can modify mechs in Megamek because if I can, I wish to modify a Stalker when I get one to be a long range support platform.
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>>97018933
>>97018898

If the Marauder BA is basically a tiny Marauder, is it possible to do the same with other mechs (making battle armor that look like mechs and thus treating them as the closest thing to replicating ProtoMechs)?
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>>97018914
>>97018922
I might be misremembering, but aren't hands pod mountable on Omnimechs regardless?
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>>97018935
You can yeah
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>>97018933
Maybe you should just buy a longbow or a viking.
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>>97018933
You could, but unless you're playing a campaign and have to modify mechs you already have or just really want to use the model you might as well get the real assault LRM boat.
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>>97018961
>>97018968

I imagined those would the alternatives for assualt LRM support mechs. And while I plan on finding tutorials on playing Megamek, I imagine you don't start immediately with assault mechs?
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>>97018952
uuh...
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>>97019057
It's based on old Tomahawk/Warhammer art, they open all the way up. The pic just shows it in the middle of opening up for a dynamic pose.
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>>97017942
NEA is so damn hot sheesh
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>>97016926
>>97018801
>This is a 22 year old
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Comeing up with a signature mech scheme is so hard, I love sparkley and shiney things so I was going to do a Wizzard Cloak inspired design on the left torso and arm with the rest of the body in red and wite, but thats just the US flag and I want it to be orginal so i need something else for the main body
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>>97019630
Feralizers, man. They will hit you like a truck.
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LAC/5 or LPPC?
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>>97016926
Clan eugenics, baby!

Was there ever an official source that said all clanners are like supermodel-tier attractive? I think I recall seeing that somewhere but I don’t know if that was ever canon or if they bothered keeping up with it if it ever was. Some of the recent art makes them look like crackheads.

Personally I think since you’re already doing gene editing and shit, why not make everybody hot in the meantime? Though I could just as easily see that being a “waste of resources” so you just get what you get after all. Really doubt there’s much combat effectiveness to be gained by being pretty.
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>>97019987
>all clanners are like supermodel-tier attractive?
No lol
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>>97018183
>would be like insisting that the BattleTech cartoon is ‘anime.’
But it is!
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>>97020082
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>>97020226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtrsjxyRAT8
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>>97017974
>>97018058
>>97018204
Dish soap and toothbrush, actual primer, a varnish to keep it all in, and a file for the mold lines. Alright, got it. Sweet. Thanks fellas.
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Finally started Megamek but before that, I decided to use Meklab to make my mechs. I'm going for the idea of a Hunchback I discussed a few threads ago.

As shown in pic, I already assigned which weapons for my custom Hunchback. Where do I place my heat sinks?
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>>97019630
I mean... Okay?
I seen waaaay worse at the gas station.
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>>97020456
3 LT
2 CT
2 RT
1 LL
1 RL

Reasoning is that you definitely want to pad that left torso since otherwise any crits will immediately transfer to the CT. Pad the CT and RT for obvious reasons to reduce engine crit chances or that you lose your biggest gun right away. Last 2 sinks can go in the legs to reduce the odds of leg crits.

Also where is your ammo?
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>>97020493

>Also where is your ammo?

How much do I need?
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>>97020526
Why would you design a custom without first getting a basic understanding of what you need in a game?
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>>97020673

Right now, I opted for three tons (two in left torso per canon and one ton in right torso). Is that a good idea?
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What ya paint today?
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>>97020728
The toilet.
Don't fuse Taco Bell and Chipotle.
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>>97019983
Do you want precision ammo or capacitors?
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>>97020526
Man if you don’t even understand ammo requirements why are you designing custom mechs? Just go pick one of the regular-ass hunchbacks off the shelf and use that until you learn.
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What varient of the banshee is this actually supposed to be? It doesn't match any of the suggested record sheets
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>>97020886
It's a 3S.
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>>97020920

Thank you, i love this model, hes so tooled up
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>>97020883

Alright, I go with three. Now, do I need to set BV?
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>>97021010
Buddy, you are screwing up so much right now...
You're weight is at 25 tons, MP at 1/2, and you have less than a ton of armor allocated...

It should auto calculate your BV at least.
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The way I see it, all of human history including the current now is canon in Battletech, right?
That means there could be Spheroids playing Warhammer 40,000.
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>>97021050

Found how that's done. I'm told BV is 488. Will that work?
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Anons, I ask for your advice.

I have made a scenario ("Training Day") for teaching BattleTech for newbies. It works fine for 1-2 players. I promised to teach at a local club of kids, age range 12-17. I figured there'd be like, maybe two people interested. The club has gaming time for three hours. Figured I'd show up, play the scenario, tell them about BattleTech and show off my rulebooks and models and talk about how to get into it.

There are six people who have now signed up. They have very little prior roleplaying/wargaming experience. So obviously, running them through the scenario one-by-one is not an option, so I'm thinking of alternatives. My current idea is basically

>Sit everyone down
>Give everyone a 'Mech
>Go -briefly- over the basics of movement, shooting
>Divide them into two teams of three 'mechs each
>Let them have a go at it on a single mapsheet

MAYBE with some simple "take these positions on the first two turns, fire at that wall to check your weapons are good to go, then you're weapons free" for that RPG/scenario/teaching element.

As for the 'Mechs I'd give them, I was thinking of
>Hunchback/Enforcer
>Wolverine/Gladiator
>Centurion/Crab

or the Kurita Phoenix Hawk or something. I usually tend to go for 4/5 pilots when teaching so they don't get used to stuff being "too good" but might go for 3/4 for the sake of time. I don't want to give them differing weights to stop "feels bad" moments for kids. Would heavies be better though? More gun but not much more armor?

Anyone else have experience teaching large groups? I've understood that the "Grinder" is good for larger games, but that'd require atleast some rules knowledge/experience beforehand, correct?

Pic related, everyone taking part will get a Wolverine after the game. First one's free.
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>>97021111
Quads of wholesomeness.
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>>97021010
Alright I can see now that I am being trolled. Well done.
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>>97021111
Don't print your mechs leaning forward, if you're going to have support scarring make sure it ends up on the back of the mech. Never ever print any miniature with it's face down.
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>>97021164
Printing them leaning back on this specific model tends to cause the autocannon barrel to melt. Which can sometimes work, othertimes not. The support I use tend to be light enough for scarring not to be an issue on models like this, but I appreciate the advice and agree to it in general.
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Yo mama so fat she's classified as 1 ton cargo on Dropships.
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>>97021101
>Found how that's done. I'm told BV is 488. Will that work?
Is it saying you're valid?
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does anyone know a good scenario or pack of scenarios to run to help me younger brother learn Battletech? we have played one intro game, but i want to now play a full game agains't him
Going to paint these babies as Free Worlds Guards, also post FWLM minis
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>>97020728
wasnt today but this was the last one i worked on
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>>97021401
How much younger?

Unironically the House Arano PDF has some good scenarios for more scenario-oriented gameplay that aren't fuckoff huge or confusing like some of the older or other releases.
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>>97021401
I've got a Shiloh Wolverine. Still need to do more Silver Hawks, this was basically a spur of the moment pivot after I experimented with a different undercoat for the tan that made it not match the scheme it was originally going into.
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>>97021467
Ans the Regulans it didn't match. I've posted them before, but I don't have anything newer for the FWLM.
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>>97016956
I like how the laser pistol has a cable attached to an external power pack. Glorious 80's battery tech.
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>>97021449
he is 14, i will check the PDF, blessings of blake be upon you
>>97021467
>>97021481
nice mechs, but what are those two quads near the ostsol?
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>>97021498
Sarath, nasty little omnimech.
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>>97021512
They have a proper Battlemech Turret and fill that turret with things like Heavy PPCs, Clan LRMs, and Plasma Rifles. Plus spikes or talons for melee.
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>>97021534
And it's the heaviest canon mech with the Compact 'mech quirk, which means you can stuff two of them in one mech bay.
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>>97016956
I love how freakish and monsterous old art made mechs look
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>>97021111
I love your scenarios. Please keep up
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>>97021065
>The way I see it, all of human history including the current now is canon in Battletech, right?
Nope. Try 1989 or whenever Battledroids came out.
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What color would you guys use to paint the cockpit glass on Olive Green mechs?
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>>97021567
I would make them yellow.
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>>97021549
That art is phenomenal
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>>97021277

It isn't because I added more armor than needed for my Hunchback and I did so because I wanted it to be for my lance's leader. In any case, finished my lance (aforementioned Hunchback, Shadow Hawk, Commando, and Stinger). How do I start playing with that lance?
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>>97021065
>>97021562
The divergence point between Battletech and real life is that picrel is canon and happened in 1984
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>>97021684
Get your table ready, map sheet out, get your dice , get your record sheets printed, and get the lube out and shove it all up your ass for asking so many stupid fucking questions.
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>>97021750

I'm playing through Megamek.
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>>97021757
First you'll need a computer that's plugged into an outlet which is currently receiving power. Somewhere on that thing is a power button, which you'll need to press exactly once, but only after completing the previous step. Ideally, this computer already has an operating system and the megamek program installed. Also a mouse, keyboard, and monitor which are all plugged into the computer.
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>>97018008
Star Wars and 40k have mechs.
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Anyone have any good stories about BT players shitting they pants during a game lol
Happened to me once against some clanner autist
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>>97021870
>clanner autist
it was me i shidded
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>>97016752
Ryana Campbell, like seriously they didn't need to make her that caked up
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>>97021065
It diverges from the real world already some time in the 90s, when the Soviet Union's collapse turns into an all-out civil war. Also, General Motors develops a practical fusion engine in 2025, and instead of having the UK break off from the EU this timeline's version of Boris Johnson does basically the opposite and champions turning NATO in the Western Alliance (strangely enough, BT did predict him becoming the prime minister).
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>>97021604
What's crazy to me is these are technically proficient artists with a solid grasp of human anatomy.

But they have absolutely zero idea how mechanical things should look. It's like they slapped a bunch of primitives together and added some reflective-ish light-yea that'll do.
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>>97021897
I like that, adds to alien freaky vibes
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>>97021913
They objectively look like shit. And the last 30 years of redesigns make that obvious. The love for Jank should be relegated to back alleys.
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>>97021870
>>/d/
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>>97021919
The last decade of CGL redesigns have made it less obvious.
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>>97018876
Yup its a tiny marauder made by the Marion Hedgemony, theyre big into making BA that straddle the line between power armor and Proto's. Are they any good? Not really sure but theyre cheap!
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>>97018183
Can we really say that Battletech diverged from Jap mecha aesthetics? I still see shit like the Crab and King Crab all the time, and the Atlas, the Horned Owl, etc.

Even Battletechs quadrupedal mechs look more like something out of Super Sentai than they do any sort of spider tank (not that that would help at all since Japan pretty much came up with those too).
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>>97022435
Giant Mecha is innately japanese. No matter what you strip off and replace, it'll have a japanese underbelly. I'm fine with that.
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>>97020728
Damn I forgot how big the Banshee is
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>>97020749
>Taco Bell
>Chipotle
>On the same day
What sort of madness is this?
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>>97022532
Fiesta Madness!
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>>97022532
Parable of the Broken Toilet.
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>>97019987
>Was there ever an official source that said all clanners are like supermodel-tier attractive?

The text says they are. But it's a *qualified* yes. The Robert Thurston novels mention it, when Aidan is loving with Peri Watson for a minute, and one of the early Clan sourcebooks does as well. Likewise, essentially every Clanner ever described in a novel is pretty attractive unless they're badly scarred up. And that's the thing, Clanners USUALLY start off reasonably attractive by default, but they get fucked up on the regular as a result of injuries through the sibko, training and all the Trials they fight in. Remember that *most* trials are unaugmented, so a given clanner has a pretty good odds of having at least one broken bone in their face every year or so. But Clanners *are* universally physically fit people, and there is an extremely strong correlation between people being physically fit and being "attractive", so all other things being equal, Clanners should be attractive more often than not.

The art is too much of a grossly mixed bag to say anything. Laubenstein (the guy who did >>97020045), has literally never drawn an attractive person in his life. Drawing ugly people with misshapen noses is his entire schtick. See also: the ~300 pieces he did for Shadowrun. CGL hired an artist who draws EVERYONE like meth addicts (>>97019630), regardless of how they're described. There is a lack of desire to pay good human artists until extremely recently, compounded by a lack of art direction (see also: Protos), that makes it impossible to tell anything from the artwork. For any interpretation you like, you can point to a piece of artwork which supports it.

Then you have the various RPGs, which I don't have the character limit to explain fully. Short version, they are a generally bad source for almost any snapshot of the game universe you care to name unless you are making a dishonest argument, and should not be used to prove or disprove anything.
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made a little Transport gunship, i think its a little too expensive, but i wanted it to be able to transport a squad of BA and still be a good fire support heli, thoughts?
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Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or a ghost knight their location on February 7th, 3138.
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>>97022635
Yo NEA, what advice would you give to a newer players wanting to start their own mercenary mech company?
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Why do people in BT look like white trash
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13eMARy4kR9wwuluQKZ7rAi5pljfPTgQg0LtqN1rIjwY/edit?usp=sharing

Wrote up Abomination cards for the laser dinosaurs. Models are from https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/6mm-scifi/Lizardriders

Might produce an adventure module type thing for these soon, where you're dropped on Jardine during the Jihad and have to fight off blakist mechs and hordes of laser shooting dinosaurs.
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>>97022635
Can you comment on being canonized as a Blakist cyborg turbo slut? Is this better or worse than being canonized as a Hazen?
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>>97022981
10,000 years of noble inbreeding
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>>97022985
Cybernetic dinos with fricken laser beams. Throw in a volcano base and I'm all over this.
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>>97022651
Load a ton of infernos. I also swear this is a piece of equipment for a chin turret if you want to go full HIND.
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>>97023112
>Throw in a volcano base and I'm all over this.
So, fun fact. The main Blakist base on Jardine is a supervolcano and setting it off is how Blakists kill the world when it is discovered by Interstellar Expeditions.
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>>97023112
I have great news: The planet Jardine is jungle rich and home to an enormous supervolcano

Also, the stegosaurs have vibroblade thagomizers.

Vibroblade. Thagomizers.
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>>97022985
Fuck yes please, looking forward to it
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>>97023099
What?
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CGL really need to have Japanese to do the characters
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>>97022635
Don't forget that clanners find scars sexy if it's not associated with a big loss, like that one Solaris Wolf getting rock hard at the infantry chick with one of her tits blown off by a shotgun in the DA.
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>>97023132
God bless them. All hail Precentor Evil.

>>97023134
Look up thread homie. >>97017942

>>97023134
The fuck is a thagomizer?
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>>97023160
Why? Looks like generic animu slop
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>>97023165
>The fuck is a thagomizer?
Ancient science comic joke that became real. It's the spikes on the end of the tail.
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>>97017700
take me back to when there were like twenty different fighter chassis for each role in the air force instead of just F-35
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>>97023165
>>97023176
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>>97023178
So thats pretty metal then. Does the exploding super volcano preclude the salvaging of this technological marvel?
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>>97023193
>Objective: Reach Nav Point Gamma with at least 1 living captured Dinorider
>We'll hold off evac as long as we can, but the shockwave from the explosion will catch us all if you don't haul ass.
>Liftoff Timer: 248"
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>>97023178
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>>97023237
I fucking knew someone would post cow tools. I'm only disappointed you didn't edit a toro in there.
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>>97023193
>>97023215
The players are gonna be a lance-ish of coalition mechs who were supposed to just check the planet out. When there were a few signs of civilization visible in otherwise trackless jungle they dropped to check it in, at which point they get swarmed by laser dinos.

I think there's gonna be some sort of plot about getting back to the dropship, and possibly rescuing a scientist kidnapped by the blakists. If you rescue the scientist, you get Dazzle Mode for your energy weapons for the remainder of the campaign, to help against the dinos.
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>>97023251
I would just add them to the IE team. They had mercs, anyway. The famous attack at the Wolverine site happened to the Blue Star Irregulars IIRC. The Coalition never saw the place.
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>>97023263
Sure, that works. But this'll be a separate earlier thing, I don't want to get wrapped up too much in existing canon
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>>97023271
>separate earlier thing
Then it happens before the Coalition ever existed. I'd still go the IE or maybe some kind of state force/merc route. They could be some kind of FWL force before the League falls apart.
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>>97023318
I'll make it IE, since they've always been the player character types.
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>>97023165
>Look up thread homie
Yeah, that's basically NEA, minus the beard. When we played at Adepticon he said that he knew he was aging out and needed to put on a more masculine appearance. So for someone in his 40s he looked pretty good, but he was definitely losing the ability to pass.
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>>97023328
This isn't me
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>>97023237
I don't get it
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>>97022635
>Then you have the various RPGs, which I don't have the character limit to explain fully. Short version, they are a generally bad source for almost any snapshot of the game universe you care to name

So Lindsey Lohan wasn't a fedrat MechWarrior?
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>>97023345
It's your faggot friend pretending to be you, not the first time either.
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>>97023345
I don't believe you
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>>97023389
There's nothing to get. It's just abstract absurdism.

That particular comic was so widely not-gotten that Gary Larson actually had to issue a press release saying "there wasn't really a joke but you're idiots for thinking it isn't funny".

>The cartoon was intended to be an exercise in silliness. While I have never met a cow who could make tools, I felt sure that if I did, they (the tools) would lack something in sophistication and resemble the sorry specimens shown in this cartoon. I regret that my fondness for cows, combined with an overactive imagination, may have carried me beyond what is comprehensible to the average Far Side reader.
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>>97023237
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>>97021545
>>97021534
>>97021512

AMEN PRAISE JEEBUS !!!

some one has seen the light the light of the lord sarath!
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>>97023507
Well I know 2/4.
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>>97018183
Regarding all the furry Mechs western mecha designs went straight to the zoo.
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>>97023708
>Release new event for MWO for both November and December.
>Can earn a Nova Cat D and a Enforcer 5P.
>Neat.
>Its tied to faction play.

Fuckin PGI can't go five seconds without being retarded i swear to god.
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>>97023708
>Loss
>Buenos Dias
>Greater Cuck Happiness

What's the Zootopia one?
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>>97023888
I've seen the entire page and I'm not really sure what it is. Given its illosstrious company, I'm guessing it's a sudden hard lurch into an interracial abortion plotline, but there's on context on the page itself.
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>>97023918
>>97023888
Yeah, it's this comic that's floating around about the rabbit cop getting an abortion. Fun thing: For both external and internal shots, the backgrounds are traced from the Seinfeld apartment. I saw screenshots comparing them
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>>97023844
What does that have to do with the pic?
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>>97023918
You are right, but the important bit is that the fox is the exact kind of anti abortion christian fundamentalist the author presumably is.
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Its amazing how fast this thread can devolve into shit.
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So is the regular Centurion pretty much done outside of the Marians after Jihad? I guess there's no real need to keep going on it when the omnimech version is available.
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>>97024027
Lets be real. Anything that isn't an omnimech is obsolete.
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>>97024006
My brother in Blake, it's 4chan. The wonder is that it's ever not shit for a fleeting moment now and again.
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>>97024067
>The wonder is that it's ever not shit
Fair enough.
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>>97024027
Not everyone can afford an omnimech or omnimech maintenance. In reality, yes it would but this is Battletech were not allowed to let things become obsolete so 3025 shit boxes are still going against former republic wunderwaffen in ilclan
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>>97018221
>>97018231
Nice, thanks anons.
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So a Star or Level II can be any mixture of mechs, BA, ASF and tanks?
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>>97024223
Level IIs can be mixed, but stars are always the same unit types. Nova and Choir refers to a formation of BA attached to an equivalent sized formation of mechs that transport them.
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>>97024256
>stars are always the same unit types
I've seen mixed Stars of like three omnis and two Points of Elementals in what I seem to recall were official books
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>>97024223
Stars are normally one type (but not always), while Level IIs are whatever the fuck you want.

Remember that in the Clans, a Point is 1 Mech, 2 ASFs, 2 vees, or 5 BA (or 25 conventional infantry).

In ComStar, a Level I is a single Mech, ASF, or Vee, or 6 BA or 36 infantry (BT rules require splitting that into 2 18-person platoons in game rules).
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>>97024097
If they can afford XLs, they can afford omnimechs. An equivalent omnimech is only 15% more expensive than a regular battlemech.
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>>97024278
And you'll see a lot of them whenever someone has to play Clan forces under BV restrictions, because it's all they have points to work with.
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>>97024499
The bidding system requires them to be able to break any unit down into smaller parts. There isn't even a standard name for a single mech or vehicle under normal IS conventions, it's just a mech or vehicle. The clanners break it down to a Point because they might end up bidding down to it. And at the end of the day, you don't always have your full strength. A short lance or a short star merging with other understrength units is better than not deploying them at all after taking a couple losses.
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>>97024027
>>97024053
Common misconception, but omnimechs are not the end-all-and-be-all of battletech. There are a lot of good reasons to use battlemech versions of a mech even if you can have an identical or near identical omnimech loadout.

The first and most obvious is cost, both in purchase and repair/maintenance; the advantages of pod designs are only fully realized when you can afford multiple pods, which further compounds the expense of a single mech.

The second is modularity; while omnimechs are versatile, chassis locked equipment can get in the way of more drastic retrofits.

Finally, there's simple presence: If someone has a Centurion, they're not going to throw it in a junkyard to replace it for the same mech, but much more expensive.

Omnimechs suit some very specific and unique needs; their modularity is ideal for special forces or mercenaries that may need to alter the specification of a mech quickly to perform various unique missions; but line troops and garrison forces (especially house forces, as well as poor periphery powers) are much more economically filled by battlemechs. If you're never going to change the weapons on your centurion and you don't have to have it ready and back into a fight in a timescale of hours (rather than days) getting the omni is just burning Cbills.
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>>97024526
>and you don't have to have it ready and back into a fight in a timescale of hours (rather than days)
Wait. Are repair times quicker on omnis? This might change my buying habits in ATB.
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>>97024645
Well you can have pods ready to swap in for damaged gear and repair the gear separately while the mech is good to go. The short of it is, if you have enough pods ready, turnaround on a omnimech only takes as long as fixing the armor, because by the time that's done you've had ample time to switch any damaged pods.
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>>97021604
It better be, it's by Boris Muthafuckin' Vallejo.
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We need more common superheavies, you can only do so much with an Ares
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>>97024702

I didn't know he did art for BT.
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>>97024748
You see it's literally anything other than a regular biped with autocannons and lasers so they can't do anything with it. Thems the rules.
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>>97024748
Why?

The rules are written specifically so that superheavies are objectively worse that Mechs 100 tons and down. The Ares was only made as a novel gimmick for Dark Age. Frankly, it was introduced as MWDA was clearly starting to die in a failed attempt to renew interest with spectacle.
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>>97024851
The only thing superheavies can do is carry Heavy Gauss Rifles in their arms. If they were to get any practicality, there would need to be more sub-sub-capital weapons that only superheavies could carry.
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>>97024851
The Ares would be okay if it didn't have almost 20 tons of fixed equipment that barely contributes to anything it wants to do. They could have at least given it B-pods and MMLs instead of A-pods and an array of LRM 5 and SRM 2 launchers.
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>>97024897
The one that's floating is a standard t-bolt head, the one attached to the model there is reminiscent of the project phoenix art for the NAIS model, which is what that's supposed to be.
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>>97024917
Because like all PP art, the PP 'bolt is ugly as hell.
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>>97024897
>>97024917
Also kind of feels like a nod to how people would get confused over whether it had a hatch or more cockpit glass on the top. So many hatches painted like glass.
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>>97024934
You gotta install a glass hatch so the cameras above the arena can zoom into your cockpit while you fight.
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>>97024922
That thud and the Ostroc are like the least offensive PP redesigns.
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Battle Claw Vibroblades often are just normal Battle Claws with retractable, maybe hidden vibroblades right?
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>>97024888
Sure, but would it be better than a 100 tonner?

Okay, it carried 28.5 tons of armor, which is notably more than a 100 tonner.

But aside from that it carries 58.5 tons of equipment (including fixed and pod space).

A Dire Wolf carries 50.5 tons of pod space and 19 tons of Ferro Fibrous, which is equivalent to almost 23 tons of standard armor. And it goes 3/5 instead of 2/3. But it has an XL engine, you say!

An Annihilator goes 2/3 with a standard engine, carries 12.5 tons of armor and 57 tons of equipment.

And trying to get an Ares to go 3/5 would require a much heavier engine, even if it was XL.

Frankly, there are several 100 tonners I'd take over an Ares any day of the week.

It's a fun idea, but it doesn't really make sense even if it didn't have all that fixed equipment.
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>>97024970
The Annihilator having less than half the armor and less equipment overall kind of defeats that argument though. The Ares is also deceptively fast since it can change to any facing for just 1 MP. An Annihilator has to stand stock still to do an about face, an Ares still gets to walk in its new direction, whichever direction that may be.
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>>97024997
Also superheavies reduce the move speed penalty for woods and rough terrain, so the Ares can actually book it through a forest faster than most 100 tonners.
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>>97024997
The Annihilator has 69.5 tons of armor+weapons at 100 tons

The Ares has 87 at 135 tons

I dunno, it just doesn't seem worth it to me, and again, once you try to make that fucker have any actual mobility (including jump jets), you get into superheavy engine territory, which is...not fun.
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>>97025035
Superheavies can't take JJs
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>>97024970
>Sure, but would it be better than a 100 tonner?
Carry a Long Tom with a generous ammo load? I mean what do you want from a superheavy?
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Recommend me some charming round "fatty" mechs.
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>>97024970
2/3 is the Ares maximum speed. Any heavier and the engine goes way over 200 tons.
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>>97018818
Alexandra Daddario or Sydney Sweeney?
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>>97025099
3/5 is a 405 rated engine. That's, what 60ish tons? Very doable, especially with XL...but then you lose a lot of capacity.

The square law for engines bites your ass pretty fast.
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>>97025135
That pictures dates to before Sydney Sweeney wore her first training bra.
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>>97024006
I have been to Reddit. I have been to Facebook.

All I see are hordes of people posting models and talking vapidly. Are you excited to buy new models? I sure am. Here is a picture of a box I bought.

Sometimes, this is interrupted by the most retarded rules questions. Hi I'm new what box do I buy? Like Google or FLGS no longer exists. I have played MechWarrior for five years how do I get started with BattleTech? What is Alpha Strike?

I don't know if the average person is just that retarded or if AI has sloppified their minds or whatever but holy fuck it's so asinine to go anywhere expecting any kind of quality conversation. Even if there is discussion on the lore (there isn't), it just devolves into shitty memes or "I watched the Tex video on this. I have never actually read a book on my life" and then people start fellating each other over how much they love watching 3 hour long video essays instead of reading anything themselves.

Fuck. You guys are assholes and there's the occasional thread-derailing and "ree trannies" moment, but for actually talking about BattleTech, this is still the best place. Fuck this gay earth.
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Have the Dragoons initially brought any Clan-grade or SLDF-grade mech weapons and components with them?
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>>97025226
>SLDF-grade mech weapons and components
Yes, plenty, which caused confusion as they were rolling in with 'mechs long thought extinct. For example the Hoplite.
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>"So get this right, we deployed some of our best men as mercs to fight the Star Leauge who kicked the shit out of them, but then, wait fot it, but then we asked Star Leauge for reinforcements...and they took them from the guy we were fighting! he even had a melty and tried to have our guy executed, but everyone just ignored him!"
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>>97025234
I mean not the mechs themselves, but things like DHS, LBX, ERPPC and etc.
I was also wandering if they downgraded the mechs before they departed or after they arrived to the IS
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>>97025226
>>97025241
I don't think so, or if they did they mothballed it with their fucking WarShips.

They knew about lostech from Intelser, even if they sent fucking Annihilators and Imps and that one, glorious Stone Rhino.

It's never implied that the lostech or Clan tech they pull out wasn’t manufactured on Outreach. IIRC the Dire Wolves VSD and Hohiro get are described as being hand-made.
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>>97025241
...Sarna claims they refitted most of the 'mechs and dropships and shit with readily-available equipment, meaning that they did have the stuff with them, they just hid it initially.
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>>97025221
internet is dead theory.
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>>97025289
They hid it all in a Periphery system before they arrived in the IS proper.

IIRC they sent someone to grab it all later after the big reveal.
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>>97021855
So really, a western mech is less “tactical gritty realism” and more space opera kind of stuff.
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>>97025683
Go shit yourself.
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Does RISC technology proliferate?
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>>97021748
What's that watermelon doing in that Harasser turret?
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>>97025221
>but for actually talking about BattleTech, this is still the best place
I think so, too (and of course being the best isn’t the same as being good) and for all the reasons you point out
I’d don’t begrudge people just starting out but the question is what are they starting? is it playing BT or is it subscribing to YT grifters?
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What's the best mech for annihilating little fucks that can stack +5 TMMs and then annihilate your back armor with a dozen clan micro faggot whatever lasers?
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>>97026403
In my experience, two things have worked:
1) Get your own ridiculously fast mech with piloting 2 or 3 and kick/charge the fucker (ex Ti Ts'ang 10L, Ebony 9)
2) Get a decently fast mech with flippable arms, pulse weapons, and stealth armor (ex. Jinggau G9CC). Stealth armor protects you while chasing the little shit and flippable arms with pulse weapons means he can't escape.

But the real trick is to outnumber your opponent. Force him to move his little shit first, then windmill slam your counter in reaponse.
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>>97026403
Anything that spams clan LPLs. Of course, that would meant that to beat the faggot you've become the faggot yourself.
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>>97026403
People will say artillery and smoke and mines but all you're doing is teaching them to use pulsejumpers and also artillery and smoke and mines.
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>>97026403
If it’s a speedy little shit like a Fire Moth or something, I would say:

>hold still
You’re gonna get hit anyway, might as well maximize your to-hit number for shooting back
>biggest pulse lasers you can carry
Something like a Fire Moth is seriously threatened by a 10-point hit, and with a +5 TMM if you stood still with a 4/5 pilot you’re on 7+ to hit. Not great, but better than 50/50 odds. If you can snap a leg off or drill into the CT you could just kill the little bastard before it does any real damage.
>bring mechs with flippy arms
If they do get in your back arc, they won’t get to shoot you for free.

Alternatively, you can fight them with cheese of your own. Artillery probably does well. I’ve run a few points of Enhanced Sylphs at 4/1 as guards against that sort of thing. Nobody wants to get near the little shits that threaten a 14-point leg attack on anything within 5 hexes, and they only cost a few hundred BV each.
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>>97026403
1. The counter for a backstabber is better positioning. Cover your back armor and consider using designs with more mobility to punish them over terrain.
2. Take advantage of their range disadvantage with Precision ACs; They have to be lucky the whole way in, you only have to get lucky once.
3. Cook them. If they're running TSM they're already going to be pushing their luck, so hit em with plasma and infernos when they close.

>>97026487
If it's a lesson they have to learn, teach it to them every time until they stop doing it. Bait the jump, swat the fly.
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>>97026510
>until they stop doing it
It's not what they stop doing, it's what they start doing. Any fielded force is stronger with smoke, jumpers benefit from them more than many others because it's free cover to hop in and out of.
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>>97021881
>>97016752
Like, look at those hips
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>>97026403
Consider the F config of the executioner.
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>>97018221
I want Kaiju, not cyborgs
Cyborgs can be played with normal meh rules, just use lasers to represent their lasers, use cannons to represent their cannons, etc... they're already in the rules, the models are merely an aesthetic if you're doing cyborgs.
Players want creation rules for purely biologial opponents who are the same scale as battlemechs with an entirely non-mech record sheet.
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>>97026745
so just buy a small Godzilla figure
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>>97025221
The Facebook and Reddit battletech groups aren't bad for just scrolling through.
yeah people are gonna flex their minis and say stupid shit...it's social media bubba its for flexing and saying stupid shit you just expected too much and got whiplashed by the reality of it.
but yeah Btg is my lifeline for talking battletech
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>>97025097
The Grand/Star Crusader fits the bill pretty well, I think.
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>>97025097
Crockett. Imp is more egg shaped but close.
The CGL Annihilator is a pretty round boi.
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>>97027200
hmmmm
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>>97026840
READING COMPREHENSION DUMBASS
RULES NOT MINIS
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so nobody knows what Clan Mongoose galaxy color schemes look like?
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>>97027200
>big back thrusters like the Gladiator and Pixie
>No jump jets

Unless this things rolling coal I am disappointed.
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>>97027340
ah but my dear fellow, you responded to a post a miniatures rather than rules
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>>97027325
No
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>>97027346
2/3 of the star crusader configs do, so there's that
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>>97026403
Artillery in direct fire. You can aim at the hex they are standing in. It easing to hit unmoving earth and the lil shit will not enjoy the splash.
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>>97025221
>I don't know if the average person is just that retarded
They are.

>>97026403
>What's the best mech for annihilating little fucks that can stack +5 TMMs
Blackjack 4 with Precision Ammo, with the Targeting Computer that drops their TMM by 3.
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>>97027200
Grand Crusader looks disgusting--LRMs protruding--in his blue paint scheme before the Capellans. Very very disrespectful.
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Why does Battletech have so MANY infantry options? Did people use even half of them aside from the battle armors?
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>>97027535
No you really only should use BA and the TW generic infantry platoons
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>Was going to buy some elementals
>CGL wants £25 for a star
>Can get a Star and an Extra point for £8 from Ral Partha
The CGL ones are also super fragilr
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>>97027535
Because at some point infantry autist veterans had influence over the game and wanted every little thing to have rules, plus RPG stuff bleeding out because "what if an entire platoon was carrying this one weirdly specific sonic stun weapon my character stole from a pimp on a space station that one time?" is a question that really doesn't need to be answered, but some people demanded it was.
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>>97027676
I'm not a fan of the old style giant triangle shoulders personally, but I respect the hustle.

I personally used 6mm tau stealth suits for "Battle Armor"
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>>97027351
If you can't actually understand english than you should stick to the parts of the internet that are in your own language.
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>>97027535
>so many options
Only like 4 matter. The rest are supplied for fluff.
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Do you guys think the FRR table would work as a mercenary/periphery table? It lacks the more Liao-feeling options but otherwise feels like a general "everything in the shitbox" feel since it takes from the three neighbors.
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When ypu are trying to build a Clan army how do you make it actually work? Because a Star has 5 mechs withing one weight class of eachother, but Omni mechs are super expensive. Do you use 2nd line stuff or just say like the Star broke up or sonething?
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>>97028099
You build it just like a regular list. You buy the most expensive stuff first, then use lights and elemental to fill out the rest of your initiative slots. If the points are smaller you limit yourself on how much of the expensive stuff you want to get. Usually stop at four or five minis so that the game doesn't go on for too long, unless you agreed to a longer game with your opponent or are playing alpha strike.
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>>97028133
Some something like this for a 6k Game
>Gargoyle
>Griffin IIC
>Ice Ferrit
>2 xElemental bases
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>>97026403
>What's the best mech for annihilating little fucks that can stack +5 TMMs and then annihilate your back armor with a dozen clan micro faggot whatever lasers?
2/4 pilots in cheap, hard-hitting mediums with a mix of guns that give targeting bonuses. Not just pulses, either. A LAC-5 with a bin of Precision and a bin of AP can do vicious work if they use vehicles to pa their BV. Precision AC ammo in particular cuts +4/5 TMMs to +2 (since it always rounds down) and +6/7 to +3. The hardest part is forcing PSRs on the little shits, but it's the easiest way to force them down on their asses for a turn. The other Anon's suggestion of Stealth and flipping arms or ass weapons is also solid - while micro and small lasers, MGs, or MMLs may be "efficient" on the construction side, they have very small engagement ranges and on a model that's firewalling its engine every turn it has to get close to do work
One of the other, funnier options is to take several fast melee options like good old Scabby or a Gurkha. Give your pilots obscene (and relatively cheap) piloting upgrades. Repeatedly slapping sprinty fuckers with a sword will never not be funny, and the pressure often makes the other player obsess about activation order in a way that frequently forces them to make mistakes or bad moves.

Also, make sure you read the TMM chapter carefully. There are some critical things about shortest-path measurement, reversing, and jumping movement that sort of player tends to "forget" to help themselves. You can often force them to choose between
>losing a couple points of TMM
>engaging your freshest unit on the nose instead of the one they really want to backstab
>leaving themselves open to aforementioned head kicks and dickshanking by your own lights
I run Piranhas occasionally for the lulz. They tend to go down hard and fast once *anything* gets through. Even a 1/36 chance to hit is worth it when you're taking 20 shots a turn on them
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>>97016809
Youve been able to order it from the website for like a months already. Got mine a few weeks ago. Should be in store next week I was told.
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Would you take an expensive vacation to the Mica Majority to experience the simulated thrills of working in a Draconis Combine slave mine?
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>>97028252
>Precision AC ammo in particular cuts +4/5 TMMs to +2 (since it always rounds down) and +6/7 to +3.
Where did you hear this?
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>>97028815
>Where did you hear this?
It came to him in a dream.
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>MASC engaged
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Whether anyone is interested or not(go fuck yourself), this is what 1:300 scale architectural civilians and cars looks like next to a king crab.

Bought a 100 pack of assorted 1:300 cars and a 100 pack of 1:300 "train passengers" on amazon for 20 bucks total. Seems perfect for flocking bases and urban objectives.

One more angle to follow.
>clean your desk
No.
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>>97029201
Looks pretty good in terms of scale. The catalyst mechs are ostensibly 1:265, if I remember correctly, so it's close enough, really.
I'm surprised those are 1:300, they look bigger than 6mm.
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>>97029262
CGL heavies and assaults are in a larger scale than lights and mediums.
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new thread

>>97029712
>>97029712
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>>97023345
Why does he keep pretending to be you?
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>>97030141
Probably a fetish
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>>97027535
I'm surprised how there seems to be a supper common light (Tunnel Rat IV), medium (Inner Sphere Standard), and heavy (Ravager) Battle Armor that fits most of the weight brackets. I hope the Spectre can be more common to fit into the light/stealth category, but that still leaves the actual 1.5 ton heavy suits needing a rep.



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