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Previous: >>97031454

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What's your favorite theft card in commander?
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>>97038852
>Theft
Gay
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>>97038852
>Theft
Gay
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Love watching their faces as I play forced fruition
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>>97038867
The only deck I have ever played against and took issue with it. And I have played against a lot of gay ass decks
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>theft
Straight
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>>97038852
>Theft
Bisexual
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>>97038867
https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22stash+counter%22
damn I coulda sword there were more
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>>97038852
>Theft
Bolas
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>>97038852
>What's your favorite theft card in commander?
Is it really theft though if I only play it to win
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97038924
No.
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>>97038922
just as long as you're not attacking me
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>>97038929
AIIIEEEEE
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>>97038852
>What's your favorite theft card in commander?
Stealing your turn is theft
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>>97038924
Yes.
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>>97038852
>TQ
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>tfw you discover a new infinite combo in your deck
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These threads are seriously dying, holy shit
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>>97039111
It's 2 am mon
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>>97039115
It's almost noon actually.
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>tq
a staple in my black decks, does 2 powerful effects and is always nice to bring back.
is it considered theft? perhaps, either way it should see more play.
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>>97039124
noon AM maybe
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>UB set has commander I really want to build
>art sucks

fine wizards you win I'll make my own damn cards
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I never realized how weird this art is. Does she really just have massive playing cards inside her jacket? Cards over twice the size as the ones she's playing with? Is it supposed to be a card themed undershirt with a massive collar? It's weird.
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>>97038852
The only bit of insanity I ever had and almost acted on was finding a copy of every frog and toad card (72 of them) and using them to make a frog deck.
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>>97039181
artist tag?
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>>97039267
What commander did you use? I have a frog deck with Grolnok, but I've been thinking of swapping him for the blink frog from Bloomburrow.
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>>97039181
based proxy maker
>>97039144
crazy underrated card, and people complain theres a lack of gy hate
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>>97039144
>>97039408
Worse pic related
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hehe
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>10-30 mins between posts
UB really did finally kill this game holy shit
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>>97039492
I DON'T CARE I'M HAVING FUN!
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I want Wizads to print this.
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>>97039520
>a better fetch with upside
bruh
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>>97038852
>tq
Its so funny how people will just scoop to this.
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>>97039536
It's never just this though, it's that plus a flicker/copy engine
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>>97039414
>EDHREC top played card is beter hehe
skip
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I solved the reserved list.

>Glacial Fjord
>Land - Plains Island
>Your deck can't contain cards named Tundra.

>Abyssal Trench
>Land - Island Swamp
>Your deck can't contain cards named Underground Sea.

>Sulfurous Bog
>Land - Swamp Mountain
>Your deck can't contain cards named Badlands.

>Cinder Grove
>Land - Mountain Forest
>Your deck can't contain cards named Taiga.

>Verdant Steppe
>Land - Forest Plains
>Your deck can't contain cards named Savannah.

>Sepulchral Meadow
>Land - Plains Swamp
>Your deck can't contain cards named Scrubland.

>Spirecrest Atoll
>Land - Island Mountain
>Your deck can't contain cards named Volcanic Island.

>Blightweald
>Land - Swamp Forest
>Your deck can't contain cards named Bayou.

>Sunblasted Mesa
>Land - Mountain Plains
>Your deck can't contain cards named Plateau.

>Luminous Mangrove
>Land - Forest Island
>Your deck can't contain cards named Tropical Island.
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>>97038852
Exchanging this for spells then using homeward path will never not be funny as fuck. The best is when other players forget about it until they go to teferi's protection in response to a board wipe and I get a free teferi's protection
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>>97039553
Yes exactly
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>>97039574
Got a better way to solve the reserved list: Get rid of it.
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>>97039532
Fetch can get nonbasics.
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>>97039586
>a basic with upside
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What were the most fun tribal sets? I already have UB Zombies, RG Werewolves from Innistrad, UR Giants from Kaldheim/Lorwyn, UG Merfolks from Ixalan and Lorwyn, and Naya Dinos from Ixalan. Are there any other well supported tribals that might be fun in commander (except elves, I hate elves). I was thinking about Kamigawa for Ninjas and Bloomburrow for Frogs.
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>>97039610
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>>97039610
BG insects but you need Zask or roll with mazirek/grist
BG can also do squirrels
if you don't mind changelings you can make bloomburrow.dek with most tribes I feel but not saying they will be particularily good.
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>>97039628
BG squirrels sound awesome, they seem to be pretty popular with the precon, which doesn't look bad, although I doubt they will get much support in future.Thanks, anon.
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>>97039661
Pray that it doesn't get a bunch of Squirrel Girl support and you don't suffer the fate of spider tribal
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>>97039610
Jeskai monks but thats more of a prowess deck then anything but I do love playing monks VS ninjas.
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>>97039181
>Lo and Li
Uh...
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>>97039181
How are you building this card actually?
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>TQ
Theft is my favorite archetype.
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Pulled this boy in the art I wanted. How much do you think he's going to drop? He's cool, but $60 seems like the result of overhype and I wonder if I can sell now and rebuy for $20 in a couple weeks.
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>>97039843
Probably at least half desu
$60 preorder price is insane
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>>97038852
>still can't steal treasure tokens
shit game
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didn't watch Avatar but I pulled pic related yesterday and the effect seems pretty bullshit. it's basically cheat omniscience as soon as possible and win
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>>97039873
It's actually not that great but it's such a beautiful card I wanna build it anyway

When is this last time pic related has been relevant in edh?
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>>97039873
It is still a cast, so the thing they try to cheat out can be countered.
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>>97039899
blue players so happy everything is a cast trigger because wotc are pandering pussies.
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As multicolor slop continues being pushed REB and pyroblast get better and better. Yes I will counter your Simic+ commander when you try slamming it on curve, it only costs me one mana and a card and your commander was going to get your 3+ cards.
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>>97039873
You're convoking 9 mana over 2 turns for Omniscience
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>>97040073
>9 mana over two turns
4 mana and that's it, because the game plan is to not spend mana on the activated ability
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Iโ€™m working on a Thantis deck and Iโ€™m curious how to make it more disruptive at the table. Since Thantis costs 6 mana, it can feel a bit slow to get going. What strategies or card choices have you found that help speed things up or keep pressure on opponents?

https://archidekt.com/decks/16700549/welcome_to_the_junderdome
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>>97039843
You have it in your hands anon, if you want to gamble it over 40 bucks you'd better hope you're not wrong.
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>>97040023
Was this post ai generated?
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>>97040087
What's happening in this gif
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new to the game.
found this on my brother's old binder, is it a nice reanimation target?

i play Whisper and deck is creature heavy.
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>>97040098
There is a fan to keep the suit inflated, the person shooting the video used likely some vomit-inducing stench, put it near the fan, and now the poor person wearing the suit if having a bad time.
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>>97040087
just invest in mega ramp, you have other bombs to be casting in jund group slug anyways.
to not die just run vipers like dragon sniper and/or invest in banding with baton or chatzuk.
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>>97040177
That's awful
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>>97040099
It's a strong card. Works best in a dedicated artifact shell that can cheat it or ramp into it. I really like it in my Oswald deck to sit at the top of the pod chain and in my Shattergang deck as a Goblin Welder target. General reanimator decks probably don't want it and have access to better, more game ending targets, but it's fine to cheat out and slow down the early game.
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>hand discarded
>top deck 4 lands while their turns are interactive and doing stuff
>other players have do thing draw card commanders
>effectively do nothing for 40 minutes

Im thinking of bringing my steam deck today to play some silksong. Then again, I could just leave. When is it acceptable to be bored out of the game?
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>>97040336
games shouldnt take 40 minutes unless some dumbass can't think or perform basic game actions and is slowing everything down. you're free to sit on phone if someone can't be courteous enough to be competent at a very straightforward game.
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>>97040355
your games don't take hours?
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>>97040336
Are we supposed to tell you how to have fun? How did you lose your hand? What commander were you playing? What are we supposed to do about any of this if you're not giving us the most crucial information?
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>>97040355
>>97040370
Your games don't take days?
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>>97040336
>hand discarded
And this is why I will never fucking ever play discard decks. Making someone so bored they don't even wanna play the game anymore sounds like such a bitch move
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>>97040370
>>97040385
Your games aren't over in 5 seconds?
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wait, you guys play games?
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>>97038852
>What's your favorite theft card in commander?
Scarab God. He's also one of my favorite commanders.
If that doesn't count, then probably Memory Plunder.
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>>97040370
they do and if you pay attention it's very easy to notice why they take so long. it's players going "um, hmm, maybe i'll-no, um" while deciding what fucking basic land to put down turn 1 when it should be an extremely simple decision. or faggots who flick through their cards five times in a row before saying pass. the game's just full of autistic stimming and rituals. like asking about pregames, as if someone's just going to forget their pregame and not place it down once everyone says they're keeping hands.
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>>97040395
It wasnt even some discard deck, it was just mono black good stuff and he had a myojin out. I dont fault him for a 1 time hand discard, just.. cant do anything.

>>97040355
The game was closer to an hour and a half. The last 40 minutes was me bored on my phone as they did combos/interaction/etc

>>97040382
Because its a question on when its acceptable to go do something else
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>>97039610
Whos your zombie commander? I have tons of Dimir zombie cards collecting dust in my binders and want to change that. I run a Legendary matters Dihada/ Shanid equipment deck if that counts as a tribal deck
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>>97040527
I'm not your fucking life coach bro. You can fucking walk at any time. I don't know what the fuck was up with your board that you had nothing to play with after the ~4 turns your opponent needed to bring Night's Reach to board, and also nothing on board after those turns to spend ~8 mana on.

Absent any other context, skill issue. As for social issue, not it's not cool to start playing games on your phone or deck when you're in a game. I'm not going to tell you three times when you take damage and wait for you to start fucking paying attention no matter how little you have on board.
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>>97040615
Not him but I run Varina Lich Queen and it's very fun. A lot of decisions to make when it comes to discarding and I always feel like I could've done something different when I lose.
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I'm a new player and I don't understand how scooping is considered disrespectful/rude. I think rage quitting and slamming my cards around would be rude but I don't see how just conceding is considered 'bad'. I've been in situations like >>97040336 and I just scoop because there's literally no point to pretending to play, do nothing and wait to die as to not to be "disrespectful". Literally just wasting my time watching another person win. I'd rather do anything else.
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>>97040653
by remaining in you can be a target for damage triggers is usually the reason people see it as bad form to leave. but it's also just a stupid and annoying play pattern to exist as a punching bag to help someone else win so they're wrong.
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>>97038867
Uhhh who's your commander?
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>>97039408
>people complain there's a lack of grave hate
Who? What retards are you talking to
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>>97039414
>only works on stuff played after it
Nah pretty comparable.
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>>97039574
>guys i solved something that wasnt an issue
Good job anon gunna hang this post on the fridge for everyone to see!!
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>>97040023
>strong card is.... good?!!?!?
Okay... you were always allowed to do that.
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>>97040084
Thats what convoking it means dipshit tourist.
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>>97040681
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>>97040660
This. It's inappropriate to concede to deny a player triggers, but it's also inappropriate to sit in a game as a target just to be a target. This is where the 'conceding as a sorcery/instant/state-based-action' debate comes in.

If someone is killing you by swinging in and would get effects, it seems unfair to have the player have a choice of whether or not they'll benefit from their game actions when you're literally not going to be in the game anymore. No one would say it's fair in combat to concede after blockers are declared if someone was playing a theft commander to take away their blockers for some other player to kill them, so 'conceding' in response to triggers that could have similar results would be equally shit.

This is why generally I take the standard as follows:
You can concede on your turn any time you have priority.
You can concede on any other turn if the stack is empty.
You can concede at any time if the place catches fire or a man comes running in with a gun or your dad got hit by a car or something, important things come first.
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>>97040336
>>97040527
>BE BAD
>BLAME GAME
>RAGE ONLINE
Try building a better deck anon damn. Its probably some retarded low power "SOULFUL" gibberish
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>>97040643
Got a list by any chance? Sounds like she could be pretty fun to run with all the different possible decisions
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Kefka dancing BAD!
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>>97040811
>11
idk, still keepin it in the Terra deck.
i play unoptimized decks and i hope it bothers you
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>>97040099
>is it a nice reanimation target?
No
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>>97040653
the way I scoop is:

>take damage, allow them their triggers, move on
>scoop on my turn or if my board is obliterated

exception when spite scooping is hilarious

>steal player has 8 of my permanents
>hes getting attacked
>scoop and take my stuff
>'we should just end the game in a draw since that changes so much'
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>>97040762
It's a bit outdated but mostly the same to what I run now.
https://archidekt.com/decks/10817443/zombies
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Wow its over, UB killed edh and /edhg/!
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>playing an all lightning deck
>storms king thunder, boltwave, lightning elementals
>guy just does thoracle turn 4
>โ€™its the fastest way to winโ€™
>not even mad, just leave
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There such a thing as a "fair 3" mill deck?
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>>97041099
i don't get these people, do they think it's insightful to just have the most optimal wincon told to them and then copy it? it's like cheating in video games, what's the point other than just trolling people?
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>>97041110
Allow me to (re)introduce my second wife.
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>>97041110
literally the only way mill isn't fair is if you can turbo out some sort of full-deck mill combo. incremental mill or mill that isnt even aiming for a deckout is so fair of a strategy i just want to call it bad at winning. you're just giving your opponents card access.
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>>97040641
Nice crashout, you are like a little barking dog yapping itself into a fervor


>>97040738
>bad
>rage

The opposite. I had nothing to deal with player 1s cyc rift into player 2s myojin, then top decked lands.

I was curious what your guysโ€™ take would be, but itโ€™s just autistic rage
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>>97041122
>play umbris incremental exile mill
>the โ€˜mill isnt that bad playersโ€™ crashing out over fomo
>flubs player loses half his deck to tashas hideous laughter
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whats cooking
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>>97041137
So you don't want advice, you just want to bitch. That's fine, just don't bother asking questions if you don't want answers.
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Do you have one box with tokens for all your decks or do you put tokens in a box together with the deck?

So far I've been keeping my decks loose in one of those long boxes that fits 3-4 decks.
The issue is that unless that kind of a box is completely full you run the risk of damaging cards in transport.
Recently I found a card folded at 90 degrees so I've been thinking about buying a bunch of those plastic shells and then I can put those in the bigger box.
They come in 100+ and 133+ sizes and I'm not sure which ones to get.
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>>97041220
>Do you have one box with tokens for all your decks or do you put tokens in a box together with the deck?
Tokens sit in the last deckbox slot, naked
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>>97041230
Pic
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>>97040653
Its not rude or disrespectful this is a decidedly recent phenomenon in magic, almost exclusive to post covid EDH players. Scooping has been an encouraged aspect of magic since its inception. It takes a good player and a healthy ego to recognize when they've lost, or when they are holding out for ~1% chance they get lucky and pull the out (not skill by the way), and resign.

EDH is plagued with this paradoxical mix of "ultra casual" (read: youre not alloaed to beat me) and WAACfaggotry, which by the way not scooping is WAACfaggotry. If you think the game is over scoop. Anyone adding rules to this is trying to game it in their favor.
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>>97041137
Post your deck anon :)
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>>97041269
>almost exclusive to post covid EDH players
Almost as if the issue is exclusive to multiplayer games.
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>>97041220
Just in one of those long cardboard boxes.
Half the box is for just 1 single deck
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>>97041269
yup people don't want to admit defeat because it hurts their ego and adjusting "their" builds (they dont actually build decks) hurts their brain. and thats why many archetypes are basically soft-banned at this point like MLD or stax.
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>>97041289
What are these?
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>>97041296
token packages for specific decks like in precons
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>>97041296
Paper clips keeping clumps of certain tokens together so they're easier to manage..
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>>97041269
Bullshit. The reason why scooping etiquette matters in EDH is that its a multiplayer format. The order in which things resolve when a player leaves a game can have drastic effects on the remaining players.

When you can have gamestates such that a player connecting with combat damage can be drawing half their deck or gaining 50 life, whether or not those rules resolve or not can drastically alter game outcomes.

But go off king. I've accepted at this point that pretending to be a retard in the thread is the only way some people interact with the game at all, so I have to take the bad with the good.
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I like this card
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>>97041330
>>97041280
>1v1 isnt multi-player
??????????????? Kind of dumb fucking rebuttal is this. There is no scooping etiquette, this is something that literally popped into existence with the covid surge of players.
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>>97041345
As I said, go off king.
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>>97041341
me too anon...
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>>97041220
I have individual deck boxes I print off a 3d printer and then carry a few in a nice camera bag
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>>97041365
Is this a bit? Are you doing a bit? Even in 2HG this rule holds.
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>>97041220
deck box for my decks, thrown in to a backpack
tokens in a smaller deck box and dice in ther small plastic containers, in the smaller pockets on the backpack
playmat and water bottle on the side pockets
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>>97039532
>better
>with upside
You're drunk.
It produces no mana, so you can't count it as a land, but can make you flood, and you can't fetch unless there's a non-basic around to target. Also, if you target a fetch, the opponent fetches and you fizzle.
It would be impactful but fair.
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>>97041444
>It produces no mana, so you can't count it as a land

it tutors for something that produces mana the turn it hits play
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Anyone make a wurm deck?
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>>97041532
Trostani Wurms.
Selesnya blink with some graveyard stuff.
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>>97041532
Many, *many* people. That's like asking if people have made hydra decks
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>Just found out the almost banned rhystic and thassa's oracle but they're cowardly bitches so they didn't.
STOP FUCKING UP GAVIN
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>>97039520
Run the Wasteland if you want the 0-mana land removal so badly you chud.
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>>97041465
it can't tutor if there are no targets, so it's risky to count it as a land in your hand.
of course if some idiot decided to print it as 'destroy up to one nonbasic land', then it would be crazy.
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I want to experience the fantasy of being evil wizard that can cackle maniacally at the suffering of others. What would be good deck for that feeling? I quite like the idea of hurting people for drawing cards (Sheoldred) or for ramping (Yurlok), but graveyard play sounds entertaining too, in the 'fool, you killing my beasts only makes me stronger' way. What might be nice way to feel like a villain?
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>>97041702
Anon you are genuinely the dumbest motherfucker on the planet if you think "At-least one opponent controls at-least one nonbasic land that isn't hexproof or indestructible" is a hard requirement to meet.
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>>97041723
You're only thinking EDH. In EDH, why the fuck do you care? It's land destruction, it doesn't get used unless the kid's gloves are off anyway.
It would be a great way to reduce non-basic abuse in historical format (insta-limited in vintage), and police standard no matter what degenerate shit they decide to print, without being as oppressive as wasteland.
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>>97041756
Run the Wasteland if you're so concerned about it you retard.
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>>97041655
>I HATE FUN
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>>97041772
Are you sure you are literate?
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>>97041794
>My nonbasic destruction needs to cost 0 mana or it's not good enough
>No NO Don't tell me to run Wasteland! It's too oppressive if you infinitely loop it!
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>>97041704
Accept no substitutes
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>>97041800
Wasteland is oppressive even without looping, what are you even talking about, it can make a playable hand into an auto-loss.
What that other guy was proposing instead stops lands with abilities and duals, but still leaves all players with a mana source. It's very considerate.
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>>97041849
What kind of terrible deck are you playing Legacy where you get hosed by the first Wasteland?
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>Have board full of artifacts and lands
>Either wait until endstep trigger or cast and even better earthbend
>Now all your lands and artifacts are free to sac or just harder to remove
Why aren't more people putting the performer in metalbender decks? Also, to the anon a good few threads back who posted her with Combustion man, thank you for showing me performer exists
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Muddle the mixture should be a GC
It searches both pieces of the Dramatic Reversal and Isochron Scepter combo as well as now a infinite mana payoff in Wan Shi Tong
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>>97041867
Or just cast a nonland boardwipe and win the game
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>>97041863
The existence of Wasteland means that a land-light hand with a non-basic, that would be playable, has to be thrown back.
I call that oppressive, you feel the pressure even before the first turn, and even if the opponent does not run it at all.
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>>97041793
>Unironically thinking playing thoracle is a fun line to play again, and again, and again
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>>97041869
>Wan Shi Tong
fucking hate these ching chong names
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>>97041910
>let my deck do its thing!!!
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>>97041892
That's in the deck too. Playtesting has been quite fun, I'm very exicted for this deck along with my other Avatar commanders. inb4 anti UB schizo calls me a slop piggy
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>>97041655
>calling others cowards
>please win for me wotc
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>calling others cowards
>please win for me warriors
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>>97041941
come on, it would be better than a Wasteland reprint.
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>>97041910
>Be a retard and build deck objectively wrong while taking a horrible mulligan
>Get punished by removal
This is literally no different from keeping a 1-lander because it has Sol Ring then getting blown out by artifact removal before you untap.
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>>97041976
He cute
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>>97041961
>win for me
>for getting rid of the two biggest crutches for shitters
(you) are a crutching shitter,
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>win 3 games in a row

This card is mvp, had a storm splitter and some cantrips/counters to protect it and create blockers. Cast call forth the tempest, dark realms 2 turns in a row with nat 20s
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>>97041976
What did they mean by this?
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>>97042051
My brother in christ, that is some jank dogshit
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>>97042066
Where do you think you are
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>>97041867
Because sadly most people play in good pods where holding up 5 mana all the time is actually a bad thing and this card unsurprisingly does not perform well in functional pods.
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>>97041867
Can this also work with hardheaded
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>>97042213
The card does what it says
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>>97042213
Where are the tits?
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>>97042187
> I am a cedh turbo faggot that plays to win instead of playing fun decks with friends
Must be sad being such a joyless queer
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>>97042229
Soon.tm
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>>97042051
>7 mana card sticks while supported by multiple bombs
I WOULD SURE HOPE IT WINS
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dumb question but If I cast lightning bolt in response to someone's landfall trigger which would go first
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>>97042285
lightning bolt
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>lessons in you're graveyard have flashback 1
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>>97042298
grave hate is so fucking good.
rule of law is so fucking good.
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>>97040336
>not playing flashback, renew, madness, selfreanimating spells
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>mono red chaos
>mono blue control
>boros combat

Alright bros i need something to do with my green & black cards. Ive tried Cleopatra and Chevill
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>>97039929
It's because there's lots of shit that cares about casting, not just entering.
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>>97042231
Who are you quoting anon?
>why arent more people putting this in their decks
>because its actually not good in the average (emphasis on average!) pod
>*autistic screeching*
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>>97041137
>I was curious what your guysโ€™ take would be, but itโ€™s just autistic rage
The people here who actually take the time to read stories are all contrarian assholes. My advice is to post lots of fake stories like i do
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>>97039574
Okay now do the other 561.
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>>97042391
>Alright bros i need something to do with my green & black cards.
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>>97042391
Rutstein Reanimator
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This town aint big enough is an insane card in Azula
You can bounce one of your things to bounce 3 opponent things for 2 mana, and the thing you bounce probably helps you.
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>>97039661
Squirrels are the tribe that always randomly get some kind of support here and there. I doubt you'd be waiting too long for that. Besides, they already have a lot anyway.
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>Playing pic related
>Guy plays an ocelot pride
>Kill it immediately
>Keeps full swinging ham at me
>He's getting mana screwed too
>Tell him, it might be worth it to attack someone else to steal a land or at worst get stuff to cast to make treasure to deal with him getting screwed
>Tells me no, he doesn't fall for "group hug memes" and I killed it ocelot so he's going to keep throwing everything at me until I die
>Loses because he keeps leaving himself wide open full swinging at me for at most 2 points of damage a turn
Why are people like this?
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>>97042473
new to format, probably still think they can condition people to never fuck with them by suicide bombing every game. (ocelot pride being used by a dumbfuck is a bad sign)
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>>97042463
I do not think that this card is good value
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I never played edh with people I don't already know and at this point I am afraid to.
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>>97041230
>naked
Fucking lunatic. I buy a couple packs of those clear perfect sleeves to sleeve up tokens to avoid this.
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>>97042482
This Town is a good card. It even sees play in CEDH due to its versatility.
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>brew temur iroh
>notice that my UR landbase and UG are fairly nonexistent after last few decks
>still slap on x10s because how bad could it be?
>goldfish it
>mana isn't a problem but i've noticed something
>its just fucking boring
>doesn't really work without guttersnipe to kill people
>sozin's would require me actually slotting in more creatures and actually care about them to combo with fated firepower
fuck i think it's a dead idea, my grixis landbase also suffered a bit recently so no azula and i think she'd be just as boring and toph for whom i'd have a manabase would just be another landslop and I already have that with hearthull/szarel that i actually like. Not to mention this bitch wants every version of herself, even those from scene boxes and i want to limit spending even on printer ink when it comes to naya. Is there a >fun temur spellslinger/storm deck? From other slingers I actually have played: yshtola, narset (all 4 of them kinda), Neheb, Kess (which I might actually scramble back to after reclaiming some lands from other decks)
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>>97041220
>keeping my decks loose in one of those long boxes that fits 3-4 decks
These are cheap but you're going to end up with folded cards if you aren't careful. Individual deck boxes are about five or six dollars so I usually at least give each of my decks one of those. A slightly more upgraded deck box runs about nine dollars. Either way they both have more than enough space for a fully sleeved deck and several sleeved tokens and some extra maybe board cards.
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>>97042510
Spellslinger... is not a fun mechanic
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>>97042473
Probably took it as a personal offense for some reason. And then also some hatred for group hug.
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>>97042510
if your landbases require fetches/shocks to work you're just a dogshit curve player with zero flexibility and probably get rolled to one removal if you don't have fierce in hand.
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This would have been so much more interesting if it was 4 color
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>>97042546
there is nothing interesting about this at all subtracting one color does not fix it.
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>>97042508
It's also just flat out banned in standard
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>>97042542
i don't own any fierces anyway, and this is brewing more for bracket 2-3ish
>>97042530
idk all the previously played ones were fun but i wanted to mix it up a little and finally have a crack at temur but maybe i should just accept that the temur i'd like is RGu instead of URg and not force slinging
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>>97042532
I just can't wrap my head around the mentality of playing "big impactful cards" if you can't handle getting them interacted with.
Pride is a card that can get out of hand quickly
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>>97042546
>Oh no he's playing (generic red burn sorcery) instead of (generic black burn sorcery)
4c players are actually deranged. You ask them to do the bare fucking minimum with deckbuilding restrictions and they think it's innovative.
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>>97042569
THEY JUST WANT TO DO THE THING, OKAY??
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>>97042473
Right idea for wrong reason.
You ever see someone running a politics deck the correct answer is to not negotiate with terrorists and obliterate them instantly.
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>>97042473
Some people do just up and decided they'd rather try to take someone out even at the cost of them even doing anything that game. Though usually they seem to hold that spite until a better chance comes along. Fully throwing everything every turn to try and take you out is really short sighted. I think he sort of had a point about not wanting to feed whatever you had going on with Gonti, but just ignoring his own board state the way it sounded like he was doing wasn't a good play.
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>>97042591
>not negotiate with terrorists
But anon, if you attack that guy instead you can draw cards!
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>>97042622
This, but unironically.
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>>97042473
>>97042569
>I don't understand why someone is treating me like a faggot ass nigger for playing the faggot ass nigger archetype like a faggot ass nigger.
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>last night
>400 lb mexican guy
>legitimately mentally challenged
>tries to deadly dispute my artifact, many such cases
>cant stop talking / mumbling
>has been fired from walmart, whataburger, jackinthebox and bestbuy
>regularly gets scammed by other people in trades and thinks he gets a good idea
>asks me for a ride home because he hates the bus
>its 20 minutes in the other direction
>say naw I cant
>feel like shit all day today
>just got a 30k bonus and spent 800 on mtg cards
>dont even feel like playing anymore

goddamn, man. anyone else have situations like this?
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>>97042684
your job is fake
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>>97042473
>>97042591

yeah
>opponent playing dimir discard casts finale of revelation. draw 12, no max hand size for the rest of the game
>cast tempt with mayhem - copies, then +1 for each opponent who chooses to also make a copy
>no one takes it, TWO of the other players are hellbent
>draw 10, counter his dumbass spell since no one wants to have fun
>I was going to just chill out but this table is lame as fuck
>borne upon the wind, bonus round, big score, seething song, narset loop, stormkings thunder for 1000, prisoners dilemma

>>97042695
I literally automate physical, finance and medical things, and create security tools
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>>97042725
You sound like a massive fag. How can you be upset no one took the obvious terrible deal that Tempt With Mayhem gives? Especially on a target like that. That would have obviously given you the game right there. Fuck, it sounds like you already had it anyway so of course no one was going to help you even more.
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>>97042725
>tech
yup, have fun watchin the self checkout in 5 years
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>>97042051
What commander? Seems quite fun
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>>97042742
I had the game several turns ago, I was just letting people have fun. I figured the people with no hands would appreciate not being hand locked. I'm drawing 12 cards, what is 40 more? Better to have a CHANCE of winning than sitting there with your dick in your hand. Not like they knew I could win earlier anyway, so moot point.


>>97042786
I'll probably change the commander to another grixis wizard or something.

I rotate some of the bigger spells like din of the fireherd

https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q

>>97042748
Full automation isn't going to happen anytime soon, and if it does, then that's all jobs. legal, accounting, medical, it, manual labor, service jobs, art, movie making, etc
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What commander if I wanna bomba errybody, even frens, especially frens. Mwahahahahha
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>>97042959
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>>97038867
Do you run Anvil of Borgardan?
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>>97042959
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>>97038852
for people who have been playing for a while, where do you see the game 5 years from now?
I started playing in 2018 and it's insane to me how faster new products keep coming out, I can't imagine how someone who started in the mid 2000s is feeling
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Most RL cards are actually shit trash
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>>97042814
Seems fun, what about Azula where everyone seems to be so hyped about her
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What could possibly go wrong?
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This game will eventually be 100% UB but it'll be approved UB and no one will care.
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>>97043070
https://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesse

This is my azula deck, I swapped out my parnesse and a few other cards
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This game is gonna get a dispatch UB, isn't it?
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>>97043130
how it feels as the worst lowest slop lovers flood the game. seriously half of every pod now is just a bunch of people who just drool at the thought of playing spongebob or optimus prime in a completely unrelated game
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>>97043182
bruh avatar is pure magic.
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>>97042990
No, probably will eventually, but I'm not paying the 30+ for it right now
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>>97043182
Every other pod I play in at the shop has someone spending all of the shuffle up time waxing lyrical about their UB of choice and how they only ever "played for a little bit 15 years ago"
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>>97043067
I put it in every deck, deal with it.
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>>97043182
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>>97043262
based
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>>97043256
>Poly Artifact
First time I've ever seen that.
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>>97043322
In the olden days, "Mono Artifact" was the cardtype for artifacts that tapped (in addition to any other costs) for effects, and "Poly Artifact" was the cardtype fof those that don't.
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>>97043256
He said most, which is correct
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>>97042546
Even if it were 4c, it would of been another sans-black and we already have enough of those.
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Sans blue is the best 4c because Blue is the best color with the most untouchable piece of the color pie. That or sans green.
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>>97043359
Never ever heard of this and I've been playing since the 90's
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>>97043480
fucking same what the fuck? I always wondered what the hell those meant
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>Destroy all local artifacts
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What's your favorite World Enchantment
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>>97043517
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>>97043517
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Dead thread
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>deck SHOULD have enough creatures to consistently keep its board presence up
>always struggling to get creatures out early
Tempted to cut two counterspells for flying men, but I'm afraid that'll fuck up my ability to protect what I've got. I don't always have a counterspell in hand either.
Not too much in the way of synergy pieces or value pieces I can cut, either.
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>>97041934
>>97041869
I get Wan Shi Tong has a lot of abilities for value, but 40$? Surely people dont mean to use this in command zone
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Instantly killed my pod today.

>have Azula T3, izzet signet, fire nation land
>no other board state
>T4, swing with firebender 6(4+2) Azula
>borne upon a wind
>pic rel
>bolt wave
>hits everyone for 2(3(3(3) = 54 damage
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I wish this nigga was legendary
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>>97043964
I wish he wasn't 140 fucking dollars
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>wow these dudes keep joining our pod and playing Bracket 4/5 decks against our Precons and 3s

>better make a $2,000 Voltron deck and force the casual pod to go 4/5 or eat shit.

Why are people incapable of saying no or just scooping when the other dude is clearly just trying to stomp casuals?
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>>97043997
>WAAAAH I HAVE 3 GAME CHANGERS. hOW CAN i BEAT SOMEONE WITH 4?!?!?!
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Man that 5c spiderman commander is super boring
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>>97044014
Just like all 5c commanders
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>>97044018
There are more interesting 5 color commanders, keyword soup + tribal + 5 color has got to be the least interesting of all.
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>>97044008
With a lot of money, apparently.

Or you hit them with MLD and they piss and moan all game if they don't scoop outright.
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>>97044029
What makes 4 so much stronger than 3?
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>>97044059
25% more
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>>97044059
Is that one extra game changer, duh.
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>>97044059
everyone is under the impression that 2 = precon, custom deck but not balling out of control / battlecruiser = 3 and no rules but not cedh = 4

going by the NEW bracket rules, most players are doing 2s, saying they are 3s, against highly optimized decks running best of staples in each color, which are game changers.

Glance at this deck: https://archidekt.com/decks/17411880/dark_bargain
>Avg Mana cost: 3.8
>Lands: 30/32
>29 Creatures

Archidekt says this is bracket 4 - It contains a gamechanger, and a 2 card combo (shard of the nightbringer / archfiend of despair)

What do you think this deck bracket should be in?

Bracket 3

>Decks to be powered up with strong synergy and high card quality; they can effectively disrupt opponents
>Game Changers that are likely to be value engines and game-ending spells
>Win conditions that can be deployed in one big turn from hand, usually because of steadily accrued resources
>Gameplay to feature many proactive and reactive plays
>Generally, you should expect to be able to play at least six turns before you win or lose.

Bracket 4

>Decks not to adhere to the cEDH metagame reserved for Bracket 5
>Decks to be lethal, consistent, and fast, designed to take people down as fast as possible
>Game Changers that are likely to be fast mana, snowballing resource engines, free disruption, and tutors
>Win conditions to vary but be efficient and instantaneous
>Gameplay to be explosive and powerful, featuring huge threats and efficient disruption to match
>Generally, you should expect to be able to play at least four turns before you win or lose.


>>97043962
If a player runs Azula, and hits this on turn 4 - is that a bracket 2, 3 or 4 deck?
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>>97041976
Morning glory milking farm
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This guy looks so cool, but is his deck doomed to suck?
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>>97043964
Im sure you just like the card but Loran fits the niche i feel.
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>>97044103
4 cmc Loran? Pretty different imo, one just needs some mana while the other one needs to spam legendaries or pack conj closets
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>counters my creature
>gets a huge spell of the top

what other type of removal in this game does this? I see counterspells like mana drain and arcane denial, where's the spot removal that's just: FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR CARD, IM REMOVING THAT AND GIVING MYSELF FREE SHIT
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>>97044115
Not exactly a counter, but still a "Oh, you're going to try and kill my 7 cost commander? Fuck you, I'll just get something else that's huge.
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>>97044124
that's protection, not removal
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>>97043964
God, there's so many creatures I wish were legendary. I'd run this glorious bastard all day every day if I could. No one I know plays Pauper though
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>>97044090
https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3Aannihilator&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
I don't know do you want to attack with one of these on turn 3?
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>>97044183
I'll play pauper with you anon
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When are we getting hot girls again
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>>97044195
?
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>>97044195
But we got them in the Avatar set
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>>97044199
>>97044211
Pedos need to leave
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>>97044218
This. So much this.
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>>97044090
Nothing about him is that terrible. You just play him in a control mill gameplan to prevent opponents from utilizing their yard while you counter their shit and kill their dudes committing crimes until you can find a spicy combo in their yards or just win with mill. It's playable if you're not a bitch.
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>>97044195
Coomette
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how effective are the red copy spells? they seem super useful in both early and late game against many (but not all) spells
especially if you are not in certain other colors. it can be relevant early and late game but is it still too situational?
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>>97044279
Garbage ai """"art"""" is not hot
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>>97044296
I mean yeah you basically nailed it lol.
When they work they're really good but the balance is that they're not relevant vs all spells.
I would lump the red redirects into the same category
As far as wether they are worth it, well, I play a lot of mono red so I would say absolutely, but if you have blue most people likely would opt for straight counter spells instead, but when they're relevant cards like pic related are better than a counter spell
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>>97044307
for redirects I'd only consider the ones that can also change the target of an ability for flexibility
return the favor seems actually playable but it costs 3 so most likely won't be fast enough to hit a ramp spell
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>>97044299
it works on my machine
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>>97044319
Tbh I have never considered using them on a ramp spell. But I really like them so I always try to run at least 1-2. I even prefer the redirects to the copies because typically in a game you're going to get targeted at least once lol
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>>97044140
incorrect
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>somehow, this doesn't see play on every deck under the sun.
fucking HOW?! do you people only run basics?
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>>97044115
Bro are you like retarded with how you're typing that
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>>97044372
bracket 2/3 player.
just ignore him and move on.
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Didn't realize my guy got a new art in a secret lair. Easiest $2 of my life.
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>>97044440
>uses secret lair
anon, i...
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>>97044460
Secret lair tends to have pretty cool art.
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>>97043553
Kek that fucks up eldrazi enjoyers
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Weird question but does repercussion + pariah on an indestructible creature technically cause a draw?
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>>97044519
ye
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>>97044460
More I used Scryfall and saw the art and then thought "huh I'll buy that on tcgplayer" and then did for about $2
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When you relize EDH isn't about winning but having your commander perform at it's peak level you have won MTG.
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Favorite land? Either art or mechanically.
This is mine for both.
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> you cant cast your commander, I exiled it
> oh well its in the command zone
> you didn't say you were replacing it's exile destination, therefore it's in exile
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>>97044542
t. bracket 2 fag
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Wtf I do not recall this card at all. Did I just merge timelines?
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>>97044563
I want to kill you now
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>>97044199
UOGH SWEATY MONK SEX
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>>97044025
Name 3
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>>97039840
Just basic bitch
>every mill 1+ cards, I add 3+ counters to all my advisors
Test ran it with my old bruvacs petitioner deck a few times, once you get a single everyone mills card like >>97041110 out you start stacking counters super fast and there is enough ways in UB to make them unblockable. Biggest problem is lack of redundancy for Lo Li but that's why god gave blue counter spells.
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>>97044675
Ugh I want to build rikku so bad
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>>97044675
I like that idea a lot actually anon, mill with the alternative wincon of aggro
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>>97039181
Coomette alt when
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>>97044573
Huh what you mean? Urza's Glasses have always just been normal Glasses.
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I wanna brew decks, but I need ideas.
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>>97044836
Attractions
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>>97044319
>return the favor seems
For this one you need to keep in mind it's flexibility. It's not just a redirect it can also just be a straight copy too. Either or both. And it's not just spells but activated and triggered abilities as well. It's such a versatile card that I often end up running it in anything with red.
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>>97044195
what are you talking about? we are in the peak waifu period. no diversity quota sheboos in sight.
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If I were to have a legendary creature with an activated ability and take control of the same legendary creature played by another player, if the spell that let me take control of them says "untap that creature, they gain haste", do I have time to tap it for its activated ability before it disintegrates due to the legendary rule ?

I want to make a krenko deck specifically to play against my friend's krenko deck and utilise his krenko for my own nefarious gobbo gains
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>>97044997
State based actions (one of which is the legendary rule) are checked every time before a player would gain priority.
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>>97045027
thanks! then he and I are both gonna sit on removal for eachothers' commanders, that's gonna be fun too
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>>97045027
And most importantly, they don't use the stack so they can't be responded to.
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I can still buy the boi bundle. They no good?
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>>97045045
>not magic
>relatively niche fandom
Not surprising.
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>>97045045
People are getting burned out over SL and UB. Even this general is going 30mins between posts for hours at a time.
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>>97045065
That's because of the rangebans thoughbeit
I am never giving this website my email
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>>97044319
Then youd be bad anon :^)
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>>97044900
right, also copy is what I meant to mention but forgot halfway through
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>>97044996
I hope the availability of the Avatar Commander bundle means the FF gift bundle will have reasonable stock
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Recently, my tabletop gaming group has been getting into magic. I used to play a long time ago (Back in the mid 00s,) but I haven't played since. Last night, they broke out their decks and we all played. It was the first time I'd played magic in a long time. And while I don't see myself collecting or spending huge amounts on cards again, I do think I'm going to build a deck out of proxies, just for playing with them around my kitchen table.

I have a legendary creature that I think is interesting, which I'm planning a deck around. But what's the next step? How do I balance the number of lands in the deck? Also, I kind of want my commander and deck to be a surprise for them at first. How do I playtest the deck?
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>>97045354
>too lazy to buy deck
>too lazy to make decks
>too lazy to find out how to play test a deck
Adds up.
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>>97045354
40 lands. Get even amounts of pips from those lands for each color in your commander identity, then actually count the pips in your cards noting which ones need to be cast early game and which give you more time to assemble the color mana you need and subtract/add lands as needed. Abuse the plethora of cheap and common rainbow lands like command tower and exotic orchard or the tapped Tarkir triome lands, etc. To playtest either just goldfish (play games out solo with no opponents to see if you can consistently get hands where you have things to cast and do on your first 4 turns) or use spelltable which I'm not going to explain right now how to do.
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She's just... not good?
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>>97045376
>UBslop
right
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>>97045376
Unless it's insane value without much investment or on a very cheap body, nothing that only triggers once on your own turn at most is ever that powerful.
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>>97045376
>5 CMC doesn't trigger herself
But most importantly

I haven't played the game

>>97045045
They seem alright but I guess there's no much overlap between fanbases
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>>97045367
Thank you, thank you.
>see if you can consistently get hands where you have things to cast and do on your first 4 turns
This is something that bothered me when I was playing with them. I was playing with decks that they had made, so it really bothered me that all of their decks seemed to be built in such a way that nobody played anything until turn four. Very different than when I used to play and you wanted to at least have something on the field in your first couple of turns.
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>>97045430
I mean..you definitely do want to have something to play your first few turns. But commander really isint about turn 2 or turn 0 plays.
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>>97044541
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>>97045376
>*sees "artist's" name*
>crystal fae
yep, totally a healthy normal human being and not a troon.
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>>97044541
the one and only.
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>>97044541
I like the old version of Temple of the False God, just looks so intriguing and makes you wanna stare at the art and think about it when you hold the card.
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>>97044307
several of my friends have invested in big flashy "deal tons of damage to one opponent spectacularly single target boom hehe" spells and I am going to grin so hard when I redirect lightning that shit
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>>97045497
Tabernacle, Survival of the Fittest, and judge promo Demonic Tutor are my three dream cards to have.
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>>97045528
Buddy, if that's a tranny I guess I'm gay
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>>97045528
>tron
Tape down tucking champion then
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>>97045616
>>97045528
She's not a tranny and used to do patreon lewds about 10 years ago
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>>97045648
Where's the blue koala?
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>>97044541
completely slept on card for B3 and below
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>>97045734
I know life loss is a joke in commander but this will actually fuck your life total up if you use it to fill out your curve early.
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>>97045376
>drawn to look like a woman and not a man
she's good enough for my dick
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>>97044541
It is very funny how many times people will forget I have it out, and then I'll just dump everything into it
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>>97045734
>Tapped
>3 life whenever you want one generic mana, not even colorless pipped
People sleep on it because it's shit.
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>>97045750
>this will actually fuck your life total up if you use it to fill out your curve early
the small number of games where this is in your opening hand is outweighed by the sheer number of creatures that desperately need haste due to their attack triggers
>drakuseth is the floor btw, think bigger
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>>97045768
>not even colorless pipped
can't even look up oracle text kekw
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>>97045776
you are replying to a bait bot
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>>97045795
>people are botting /edhg/ now
grim
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>Pod agrees to allow proxies
>following week everyone have 4k+ netdeck "totally not cedh because I removed one card from the decklist decks."
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>>97045800
>yet another post confirming that proxyfags, unsurprisingly, are shameless and have no restraint
i just keep telling people you know
maybe someday you'll all get wise
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>>97045800
the other night I had a "well, I guess this is a 3 :)" guy who brought a 4 to a casual friday game of 2s, and naturally he had a fuckton of proxies
he got targeted a lot because he was popping the fuck off and filled out his entire mat with lands and creatures, but at least he understood why he got targeted so hard and was an alright chump about that.
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>>97045800
and this is why im anti proxy. i don't care if someone wants to proxy a raging river or Ali from Cairo. most of the time people desperate to proxy just looked up an expensive decklist and are too scared to try building a budget version of the deck or even worse, brew their own idea from scratch. only bad players think they need fetches and shocks in every single three color deck for the deck to function.
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>>97045830
They function without them, but they can't keep up with the decks that have them (which are also proxies)
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>>97045800
yes that is how brackets work
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>>97045844
brackets don't allow proxies fyi
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>>97045841
only because we've removed all natural predators from the ecosystem
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>>97045849
incorrect
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>>97045734
what makes it not work in 4?
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>>97045849
wrong
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>>97045857
>what makes it not work in 4?
because B4 is full of combos from the cz that also happen to be former cedh meta
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>>97045844
>Don't agree to play CEDH
>People show up with CEDH decks against your 4s
>Its not cedh, I removed 1 or 2 cards from the cedh decklist!
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>>97045855
>>97045861
that's rule 0 you moronic proxyfags
and watch as you kvetch over me playing contract from below right in your faces
>ante? it's just exile
>we're only playing casually bro hahaha
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>>97045870
B4 is just b3 with extra game changers
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>>97045879
>if I repeat it, its correct

>>97045886
yes rule 0 supersedes all other rule conditions for edh, im not arguing with you
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>>97045898
b4 is just cedh for pussies
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>>97045898
>consistent t4 wins in b4 are allowed
people like you always forget this part
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>>97045800
>>97045813
Dickheads will be dickeheads, just some don't want to spend money on expensive cards.
I refuse to proxy anything that I consider 'too much' but I have a hard time defining what that is. It's some interaction between actual cost and power. I don't mind proxying an expensive rare card if it's not actually that powerful, but I absolutely refuse to put things like duals in my orders. It's tough to accurately convey that sentiment to the rest of my group without talking about vibes but I think they get it.
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>>97045800
>reeeee proxies I hate proxiiieees reee
must be a day ending in y on /edhg/
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>>97045905
god this shit makes no sense. so im not allowed to think about what decks and cards my opponents play in bracket 4 because that's metagaming? i can only run MLD in bracket 4 but I can't run nonbasic MLD in bracket 4 because that would be me expecting to see a lot of nonbasics? can i run REB knowing I'm going to see more free counterspells in this bracket?
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>>97045908
duals are bracket 1 though
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>>97045908
>just some don't want to spend money on expensive cards
i 100% guarantee these same people have no problems buying $60+ AAA games that they don't own or some other frivolous shit, all these complaints really boil down to "i don't want to spend money on cardboard because it's fucking cardboard"
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I can't wait to use some proxies on commander night
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>>97045917
while i agree with you that gavin is unusually harsh on MLD when he could easily just make them GCs it's funny how you make light of metagaming when the lower brackets refuse to see what's coming, picrel
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>>97045886
>that's rule 0
stopped reading
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>>97045940
>he got triggered by contract from below being rule 0 legal
kekaroo works every time
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>>97045932
basado
>>97045948
el big mad gringoid
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>>97045935
i picked one up recently in anticipation for his time
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>>97045958
don't forget primetime's buddy
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>>97045849
>brackets don't disallow proxies
ftfy
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>>97045917
how many counterspells can I have in bracket 3 before its a 4 and before a 4 becomes a 1?
asking as a bant player
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>>97044542
it's a state based action, not a replacement effect
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>>97045967
>brackets don't disallow stealing your opponent's cards
just admit you're a nigger already lol
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>>97045968
it's not the density of counterspells its the quality of them.
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>>97045972
irrelevant and disingenuous, propably also projecting
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>>97045990
i'm not the one desperately trying to justify proxying when i'm even taking that "right" away from you
you're just poor, that's all
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If proxies were "totally legal and everyone accepts them" you wouldn't send your money to china for bootlegs that pass basic smell tests passing them off as real.
You'd run a proxy that is blatantly a proxy.
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Wow, ub killed edh and edhg. There were only 3 pods at my lgs last night
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>>97046057
This didn't happen btw
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>>97046057
get filtered ironic weebs
animefags will inherit this game
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>>97046057
I believe it. These threads have been struggling too.
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>>97046079
and that's a good thing
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>>97046057
There were 60 people at mine.
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>>97046089
based nebraskan
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>>97046009
Plenty of people do run blatant proxies though? Is this bait?
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>>97046062
it did happen, but 3 pods has always been the normal amount of pods for my lgs for multiple years
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>>97046057
my lgs is more popular than ever since all the UB slop came out. loudest and most annoying people ever are there every week now, it sucks but business is booming. some old heads are there less often.
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>>97045750
If you get it early, you hope it can accelerate you enough that you don't need to use it every turn afterwards. Then play Urborg, Yavimaya or Chromatic Lantern so you don't need to kill yourself playing the game.
I like to play it in aggro combat decks. But you can actually play it as haste enabler if your commander has lifelink like Alela.
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>>97046102
Whatever you say newfag
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Worth running, or is the fact it destroys makes it a worthless stax piece these days
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>>97046009
>You'd run a proxy that is blatantly a proxy.
Yeah, I do. The other day someone commented "you pulled that yourself?" on my paper printed fetch. Apparently people can't even tell the difference from across the table.
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>>97046009
I personally want the look and feel of a real card without the ludicrous cost. Running Grim Monolith for example shouldn't cost me $400 or $2500 for the foil version.
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>>97046184
Yes, it should. If you can't afford to run a card you shouldn't run that card.
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>>97046193
Guess I'll run it anyway, because I've had zero issues running them in sanctioned events. I've even had guys who have been playing since Beta look at them because they "wanted to look at them," and they couldn't spot the difference.
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>>97046196
Don't forget your shades
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>>97046200
noooooo you can't just run proxies. Ahhhh help me pinkertons
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>>97046196
putting the ass into assembling
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based, or anti based?

Finding a replacement for innala. Or should I just put kefka in
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>>97046175
it's tyrannical in ulalek
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>>97045935
I could never ever beat Primeval Titan, it's power is only matched by the sun
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>>97046233
If Lumra is allowed to exist unbanned, so should primetime. As long as Rhystic Study remains unbanned they have to excuse not to free primetime
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>>97046240
>dude lumra is JUST like primeval titan
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>>97046200
>hey i want to play cedh pieces and true duals
>i don't have money though
>so yeah i'll just proxy them
yet another cedh pod living in denial lmao
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>>97046257
seethe anti proxy fag hahahahaha
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>>97046262
hey go ahead and print all the proxies you want poorfag don't let me stop you roru rumao
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>>97046193
leel I can feel the buyer's remorse all the way from here
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>>97046276
Why would I have buyers remorse for the expensive and powerful cards I own?
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>>97046275
ok thanks
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>>97039492
I had much more fun ITT pretty much precisely before Spiderman got spoiled for the most part and finally released. Before that Final Fantasy put a dent in discussions here, but it was mostly bearable still
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>>97046196
Is that.. could it be (yes I think it is).. a FLYING creature in GREEN??? Help me Garfield, AIIIEEEEE
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>>97046196
funny how even assuming perfect mana vaevictis will never outpace shivan dragon in pump because of its stupid upkeep cost
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>>97046304
You do realize that like 3/4 of the people posting that edh is dead are doing it to troll and/or for the yous
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>>97046326
you can pump vaevictus with different colors of mana, a notable difference
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>>97046328
Wrong
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>>97046329
and yet even if all your lands were command towers vaevictis will always be one point of power less than shivan, because of that upkeep cost
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>>97045800
That is how proxies work. Everyone knows it. Theres a reason the people who are pro proxy here either
1. Don't post decks
2. Have obscene P2W decks
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>>97046333
what are you fucking talking about. if i have five forests two mountains and two swamps vaevictus outpaces shivan even after paying upkeep cost
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>>97045886
Wotc is pro "play test" cards in all levels of play, even tournaments. Wotc does not care if you play with fake cards.
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>>97046338
>if i have five forests two mountains and two swamps
9 mana? cool and shivan has 12 mountains because the remaining 3 lands you have you paid for that stupid upkeep cost, guess who has more power dumbass
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I cry and seethe and piss and shit my pants when I see this unbeatable card.
I constantly get beaten down by 2/2s over the course of 9 turns and its making the games TOO DAMN FAST
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>>97046342
>Wotc does not care if you play with fake cards.
>cards used in official Wizards Play Network events must be authentic Magic cards. Playtest cards and proxy cards are allowed within WPN Retail Stores only for non-commercial use in unsanctioned events.
They aren't going to police people playing at tables in a kitchen or at and lgs for fun. Sanctioned events they absolutely care.
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>>97046342
big if true
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>>97046351
yeah, if i have a second permanent that i cast at some point that magically color fixes all of my lands, shivan outpaces vaevictus. no one cares. vaevictus is better in the scenario where i dont have color fixing. killer bees is better in the scenario where i have perfect mana and a haste enabler and the creature comes down on the same turn. none are better than others in scenarios where i have infinite mana. vaevictus is better than shivan dragon when an enemy tries to deal 4 damage to either.
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>>97046358
play in baby bracket 2 then
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>>97046342
>Wotc is pro "play test" cards in all levels of play, even tournaments.
Ummmm, wrong??
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>>97046342
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/proxies-policy-and-communication-2016-01-14
Can't be surprised a person addicted to cheating would lie about their easily searchable official policy.
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>>97045143
>rangebans
What's with those anyway? They started out of nowhere about two weeks ago and now it's becoming difficult to post anything half the time.
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>>97046358
it is a pretty bullshit card. hearthhull is brutal to deal with now with earthbending.
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>>97046483
What a weird post. Nah I heard this directly from my LGS owner who has used playtests in tournaments. Literally given to him by the WOTC organizers. I also do not proxy myself.
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>>97046538
>Someone said someone else said something that goes against official policy which was linked to you.
Don't be retarded in my presence again.
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>pull out valgavoth
>OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
>t1 kederik parasite
>t2 dark rit into mana barbs
>t3 rug of smothering
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>pay extra for registered letter
>get the basic ass tracking which comes free with every letter
the germs scammed me.
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>>97046538
Your LGS owner is a liar
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even in the highest level of tournament play judges are not allowed to unsleeve your cards for any reason. nobody cares about the printing location of your cards outside of some entitled commander faggots who believe wasting $$$ on cardboard entitles them to free wins
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WTF guys I played my new Firelord Azula last night and one guy at the table made a big point of going to edhrec on his phone when he saw me sit down at the table. Every time I played a card, he would scroll through edhrec and point out that the card was on the site for my commander. At first I thought he was being funny, but he kept doing it for literally every card I played, even lands. Finally I got upset and I told him that I did in fact use edhrec to determine the optimal cards for my bracket (3) and he just laughed and said nothing. But he didnt stop doing it. I played fated firepower and he just shoved his phone in my face again and said see I know exactly what cards are in your deck sir. I informed him my pronouns are she/her and he again laughed and seemed to not care at all. I tried reporting him to the judge but the judge just shrugged. How do you stop this behavior??
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>>97046582
>even in the highest level of tournament play judges are not allowed to unsleeve your cards for any reason
Nice cope, clearly never heard of the concept of a deck check.
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>>97046595
By killing yourself
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>>97046607
>okay guys. we take an hour break so we can check this deck for an hour with a jewellers loupe to search for prints not sanctioned by holy wotc
>totally not simply checking if the deck matches deck list and for marked cards and sleeves
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>>97045376
I mean... yeah? What did you expect?
>5cmc commander
>no protection
>pointless keywords
>attack trigger in colors that don't get extra combats
>main gimmick is something Simic already has no shortage of

The only good thing about this card is the surprisingly pleasant art, especially after the devs of the actual game tried to make her look like "a normal woman" by moving the oblivion sliders for Mongrel and Bee Stings as far as possible to the right for the sequel.
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>>97046483
>WOTC: "We work with international law enforcement agencies to prevent you from playing our game in sanctioned events without selling a kidney"
Nah, eat shit ya cunts. I will continue to rake in your store prizes by playing with bootleg cards.
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>guy has set up his board in such a way that everything he has is indestructible, have protection of creatures and to instants.
>Have spider punk in and next turn I know I'll be able to find my farewell to deal with it. He'll either have to burn his counterspell to get rid of spider punk or may farewell will be protected.
>Guy before me decides to copy duress to each of us.
>Makes they guy who's board is a problem discard a creature, that he will just recur, and makes me discard spider punk
>Guy, of course had a counterspell that the other guy didn't force him to discard, and stopped my farewell and we all lost
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>>97046633
Goalposts: moved.
Concession: accepted.
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>>97046644
did the guy seriously see someone with "prevent damage" on board and make that guy's opponent discard a card that says "damage can't be prevented"? he knows the damage un-prevention allows EVERYONE to hit the pillowfort dude right?

sounds dumb as rocks, might have needed to explain to him that damage un-prevention gets around protection since it's not spelled out.
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>>97046659
?
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>>97046639
I logged you IP address, I see its from Australia. Pinkertons are on the way.
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>>97046644
>UB
>Farewell
deserved
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>currently in the process of building all of pic related with all of my bulk rares and uncommons in my trade binders, instead of having them sit in there and do nothing
Better to have janky decks than cards in your binders, anons.
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>>97046662
I did explain it to him, both that it would stop the damage prevention, and let us wipe his board if need be, and he said "I want to be able to counter spells too"
"Do you have a counterspell to use?
"Perhaps."
He didn't..
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>>97046675
i think vorosh and treva should have dragon sex
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>>97046666
>Satan thinks he can catch me
I'm already hiding in international waters off the coast of Antarctica.
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>MOVE MOVE MOVE
>EVERYONE IN THE STORE PUT YOUR DECKS FACE UP ON THE TABLES AND GET ON THE FLOOR
>AREA SECURE! DON'T FUCKING MOVE BANT BOY!
>Good work sergeant. Get these nerds in zips and tell the proxy sniffing K9 unit to come in, everyone else loupes out.
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>>97046669
Based I also throw the game when I see wrong scrimblo brimblo
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>>97046639
>nooo i'm gatekept for being poor
lol
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>>97046696
Imagine how awful it would be to play magic in antartica, where scientists stab each other over spoiling parts of books.
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>>97046675
i've already done this with rith, it's just full of hand me downs from my stronger b3 deck
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We need a hot sexy vampire for vamp tribal
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>>97046752
i thought thats the place where scientists get killed by unspeakable horrors.
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>>97046753
Nice. I've ran out of sleeves so I'm going to the LGS to pick more up. I'm excited to play them all against eachother and see which one turns out to be the best. I'm just throwing enough cards into each with no real plan, and then I will test and curate the selection after playing them. Should all be low-powered and fun and evenly matched against each-other.
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are the Meld Legends mechanic fun/good to play as commander or is the mechanic hard to pull off?
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>>97046761
Why do you think those horrors do those things?
They were only on Goblet of Fire. They had no idea that Snape kills Dumbledore.
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>>97046759
We already have one, its Edgar
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>>97046803
Its not good for the command zone.
Everyone knows you're going to try and do it, and if you get it off, and then its removed its lost forever, and the big threat you most likely built your deck to be is neutered
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This card looks like the pointing $oyjak meme to me
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>>97046803
the only meld worth running imo is brisela because she at least stops your opponents from comboing off rather than you pulling off timmy cards with the other melds
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>>97041934
He name is All-Knowing. Just use that.
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>>97046810
dumbledore got clapped by some gang bangers in the diagon alley when a deal over some powdered dragon claw went wrong.
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>>97041934
>fucking hate these ching chong names
why? sum ting wong?
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>>97046822
I will not use diet Vigo The Carpathian
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>>97046803
ah yes my regular reminder that we still don't have a partner+meld combo and must rely on tutoring out one of the pieces (and hope it doesn't get exiled on sight). Shit fucking sucks. We were so close to something amazing but Wizards didn't have the fucking balls to do it
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>>97046759
Modern Wizards will do their best to never let you have one, you're better off making a card with custom art yourself
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>>97046861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrDp5ryO5JI never fucking forget the all time classic
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>>97046907
Holy shit that can't have been real
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>>97046728
>mfw I cast Teferi's Protection and phase out
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Just built my first commander deck around this dude. Currently using Tabletop Simulator to run test opening hands. Seems like it's gonna go pretty well. Fingers crossed.
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what signed cards do you guys have
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>>97047004
>not signing on the type line
oof
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How is this card only $0.25?
This shit is so broken.
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>>97046976
>random frog antics
fucking based, best of luck anon
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>>97047029
he cute for sure but not broken
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>>97047004
Probably my most prized card
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>>97047045
>2 mana
>3 toughness deathtoucher (no one is fucking blocking that)
>draws a card each combat
> This is the important part
>can leave it untapped as a viper to keep other players from swinging at you
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>>97047029
Powercrept out of being relevant
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>>97047004
Bought these from scg couple years ago and they sent me signed ones
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>>97046803
Spy Kit should work with the Dragon Engine.
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>>97047029
green is rare in my pod
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>>97044996
This was a one-off and it's the reason FF was the best selling set of all time. WotC left to their own devices will continue to print only fatties, 40 year old black women, troons and grannies until morale fully deteriorates.
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>>97047132
neat. how much?
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when your melded commander goes to the command zone the entire melded card should go to the command zone
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>>97044996
I prefer the coomette version
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>>97047168
any lulu is the coom version in my kokoro
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>>97047148
If only they had an economic master like you
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>>97047004
>>97047004
Not mine, saw in a guy binder at LGS last month. This guy has tons and tons of NM old cards, his collection is fucking insane. Considering we are in fucking Brazil, never imagined i would see such a cool card with my own eyes.
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>>97047186
Print hot girls- make more money. You don't have to be a genius to figure this magical formula out.
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>>97047230
Too bad data doesn't support that idea. But it was nice to have your fantasy world where how a set sells has to do with wimminz

are you 20?
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>>97047004
The only signed card I'd want is by an artist I don't really think does signings. Or at least I wouldn't know where to get it
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>>97047154
Looks like it was coolstuff actually. I got them for 40ยข when I was buying tons of cheap old border foils back in 2021
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>>97047238
>sex doesn't sell chud
>so stop wanting more waifus!
uh oh fag melty
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>>97047184
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>>97047184
This, but with Yuffie instead of Lulu.
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>>97047330
They did yuffie so dirty and I hate it
We had one chance for middriff ninja and they blew it
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>>97047004
I don't buy damaged cards.
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>>97046336
I proxy because I got tired if paying five bucks for another lightning greaves.
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>>97047148
>it's the reason FF was the best selling set of all time
it's funny that you probably actually believe that
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>>97047184
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>build my first do thing draw card commander
>winrate skyrockets
So that's how it is.
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>>97047509
I think that's perfectly fine.
You own it, its a staple, no need to buy 1000000 copies.
Shit like "no, bro, Tiny Bones deck 100% can't work without Chains of Mephistopheles, so I proxied it!"
Fuck you, it certainly can just fine.You're just being a fag without self-conrol
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>So, I draw a card, and then discard a card
>"What did I discard"
>I"I don't have to tell you that"
>Graveyards are public information bro
>No they aren't. I don't have to tell you what I discarded
>Get up to go look
>Covers his graveyard with his hand
That was an annoying night at the lgs
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>>97047565
>>97047509
In decreasing order of respect I have for the person.

buy all cards = proxy all/expensive cards >>>>>>> buy the card once and proxy each other copy > coom proxies >>>> secret lair cards that don't look like magic cards
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>>97047564
>build my first commander with a ward ability
>commander gets removed a lot less
it do be like that
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>>97047564
>build my first big black mana deck
>becomes the big bad evil and everyone tells me how enjoyable it was to team up against it
it is what it is
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>>97047564
>build my first value commander correctly
>i win a lot more
>build my first payoff commander correctly
>i win a lot more
yes that is really how it is
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>>97047004
literally tens of dollars of value damaged by that signature
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>>97047623
Big black mana sounds fun. What commander do you run?
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>>97047680
ardyn demon tribal with a sprinkle of lifeloss finishers like gary and vito.
had a game yesterday with 2 other reanimators, and it was pretty funny to see people try to steal creatures at instant speed from other graveyards to deny them to the owner. I had a suntitan at one point bringing back my necromancy enchantment, shit was cash. or surveilling myself down to 4 life, then going for the comeback with a gary drop. I really missed out on mono black.
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>>97047564
Till you meet wheels.
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>>97047921
* 'til
You're using the contraction of until. There is only one L in until. It's 'til.
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>>97047977
Your till her knee phlegm
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>>97047977
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/should-you-use-until-or-till-or-til
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>>97048008
Till is when you use a tiller to prep your yard for sod, freak esl
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>>97047668
>>97047399
Uh oh jew melty
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>>97044307
What happens if you redirect lightning and response to your opponent's redirect lightning?
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>>97048053
>>97048053
>>97048053
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>>97047668
just wait until you find out that Toph's VA signed a copy of the neon Toph card



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