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Component wars/autism edition

Previously thread: >>97009551

This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the genre that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8

Survey results: https://pastebin.com/YJPZ44rq

TQs:
>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'
>Dice vs. Cards and metal cpins vs weighted chips. Where do you stand?
>Is chunkier always better, haptically speaking?
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>>97039335
>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'
This big boi
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>>97039335
>>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'

the little wooden octogons are pretty good.

>Is chunkier always better, haptically speaking?

klask and other examples would seem to contraindicate the principle
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>>97039335
>What's the best specific component?
The oh-so slammable Ra piece is up there. Also the clicky bags of sheriff of nottingham. Also el grandes king. Additionally FUCKRENATURE but the domino tiles are very nice. As are bakelite(?) mahjong tiles
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>>97039335
>>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'
I like the centipedes from the new deluxe version of March of the Ants.
>>Dice vs. Cards and metal cpins vs weighted chips. Where do you stand?
Chips > dice > cards, idk what "cpins" are supposed to be.
>>Is chunkier always better, haptically speaking?
At least 95% of the time.

>>97039530
Renature mentioned :D
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What's your perfect game according to the algorithm, anons?
https://theperfectboardgame.com/
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Asked in the last thread already but
What are the best dungeon crawler board games?
Why are dungeon crawler games often boring and tedious instead of an exciting adventure?
Why is controlling the monsters less fun than being the heroes, to the point that many games automate that part of the game?
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>>97040119
First thing this shit shilled to me was fucking birds. Trash site.
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>>97040119
Five Tribes (I've never played it).

>>97040179
I entered Renature and it gave me Wingspan. I think it needs more data...
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>>97040179
well if you like birds...
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>>97040119
Awful
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>>97040041
>cpins
coins
Do you not have a keyboard?
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>>97040119
>You answers heavily prioritize
>Interaction
>First game: Ark Nova
lmao
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>>97039335
>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'
An old lady I know has a giant wizard hat for The Great Dalmuti
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>>97039335
>What's the best specific component? As in, not just 'wooden pieces' but 'the chunky wooden Ra piece'
All of the wooden pieces in Weimar. Nice weight and feel, screen printing is great, and there are a lot of them. Probably the most overproduced game I've played that wasn't minis. The worst is a toss up between the plastic dead city markers for Railways of the World (just make those cardboard tiles) or the Hegemony card stock.

>Dice vs. Cards and metal coins vs weighted chips. Where do you stand?
Chips over coins but dice vs cards is too nuanced to decide.

>Is chunkier always better, haptically speaking?
I think so - board gaming is a tactile affair after-all.
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>>97039335
>What's the best specific component?
the best thing I've ever seen is printed meeples for lords of waterdeep in the cube colors and nearly the same size but the shape of fighters, clerics, wizards as each represented. it was the most kino thing I've ever seen in a boardgame.

for production games it's the mini meeples you draw in dinosaur island

>Dice vs. Cards and metal cpins vs weighted chips.
Cards over dice, dice are for rpgs not boardgames. I have a lot of metal coins upgrades but I don't actually like to use them. Cardboard sucks so plastic chips are where it's at.

>Is chunkier always better, haptically speaking?
no, scale is the most important factor. shit needs to be stable and big enough to pick up but not so big it takes over the table.
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Civolution shills, you won. Played my first game yesterday, and it was breddy gud. The rulebook is bigger than I expected and took a while to get through, but the individual parts are fairly intuitive so game itself chugged along at a good pace. As it says on the tin, there's much more in the game than you'll see in any individual session which is good. We sucked pretty bad and left some mechanics untouched (literally 0 settlements built), but we got through it and I'm looking forward to getting another match in.

Question for the Civolution heads though. I ran away with the game by like 50 points because all I did in the last era was just spam a busted "combo" which is not even really a combo. I had one of the starting research cards which rewards migration to developed territories with 3 VP for each tribe, so I just used it to print ~12 VPs per turn. 213 points total. Did we fuck something up, and how do your scores look at the end of a match?

>Dice vs. Cards and metal cpins vs weighted chips.
I think dice SUCK. Not universally (see above), but in most cases if cards are used over dice (such as action resulution) it's an indication of a gameplay system that was actually thought through instead of slapped together.

Also, metal coins >>>> chips.
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>no new Arkham Horror LCG campaign to go along with their new core until 2027 at the earliest
Can FFG die already good god.
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>>97041066
you mean Navigation? Pretty sure it works a little differently than you played it
>>This triggers each time any one of your tribes migrates to, relocates to or crosses through a developed territory. That means if you activate the upgraded Migration module, pass the favor test, and migrate 3 times to developed territories you will gain 9 success points (regardless of how many different tribes migrated).
213 isn't a very high score anyways though, as you improve they should average around 250 unless the weather is putrid
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>>97041659
FFG has been dead for like ten years lad
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>>97041703
Okay can their skinwalker die too please?
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>>97041662
Yeah that, 3 tribes + the fireplace bonuses because the map was mostly empty.

>213 isn't a very high score anyways though
That's good to know, given how brainless my play was.
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>>97041994
it doesn’t scale per tribe, only per territory crossed or moved into. you can still get roughly 12p from it but you need 3 migrations (or hooves) and the campfire bonus
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>>97042017
I don't get what you mean. I had max level migration and moved 3 dudes around for the VPs.
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>>97042199
i'm being stupid, i think you did it right
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Is Age of Steam fun and/or based?
>What's the best specific component?
Sheep meeples from Agricola
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>>97041066
213 is pretty good for your first game, it does get significantly higher though. Our highest was 385 but that was pretty disgusting. Massive population scoring at the end and he constantly had depraved orgies in the desert near two holy rocks.

Sometimes you get insane points in the console. Sometimes you run away during the game and get fuckall at endgame scoring. Sometimes you get a lot there. It's really neat.
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>>97041066
>literally 0 settlements built
I'm at the point where I think you can't win the game without building all of them. They're so good. Level 5 unlock, 4 income tiles, prestiege scoring, earlier row unlocks etc.
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A portfolio game that out-does Acquire has yet to be made.
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Why do they never reprint their old games? They have so many great titles they shill new printings of on kickstarter. And NO Arkham Horror 3e isn't the same as Arkham 2e it's a totally different game.
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>>97043168
They just announced they’re going to hold votes for reprinting old games* and putting them on Kickstarter.


*They will have new art. I hope you like troons in AH2E!
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>>97043277
Vote for Android: Netrunner so they get in a catfight with Null Signal Games.
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>>97043290
I seriously doubt anything licensed will be available. So no Battlestar Galactica, no Forbidden Stars, none of the Knizia’s, no Chaos in the Old World.
You’re getting AH2E and Runebound with more disabled black women
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>>97043277
no way really
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>>97043336
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/live/LqOaHp5k4M0?si=42o-bjFIcPD0wEQi
Skip ahead to 57:30
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>>97043352
*ahem*
https://youtu.be/LqOaHp5k4M0?t=3450
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>>97043317
>I seriously doubt anything licensed will be available. So no Battlestar Galactica, no Forbidden Stars, none of the Knizia’s, no Chaos in the Old World.
They can change the IP to something new. That's what they did with Battlestar Galactica and Starcraft.
>You’re getting AH2E and Runebound with more disabled black women
There was a black woman in AH2e but she wasn't disabled. I don't really mind the diversity shit it just gets weird when you have a black trans postman in Arkham. It would make more sense if the game took place in Weimer germany or something but not a small town.
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>>97043430
They owns the rights to Android but not to Netrunner. They could still make Android: Cyber Struggles Compatible with Netrunner.
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>>97043521
Don’t they deliberately kill off Netrunner so it wouldn’t detract from mtg?
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>>97043784
Depends on who you mean by 'they', but probably. FFG was the publisher for Android: Netrunner. They owned the rights to Android but WotC licensed them the rights to Netrunner. The license expired without being renewed and the game stopped being made. But I've never heard any definite as to whether WotC did not allow the license to be renewed or FFG chose not to renew it.
The joke I was making was about how Null Signal Games doesn't have the rights to Netrunner either.
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FFG was massively gutted by Asmodee so I have little faith in it producing much good.
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>>97039335
>Dice vs cards
Those aren't even really comparable
>Metal coins vs weighted chips
For tracking currency? Coins. For literally everything else, chips.
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>>97040127
Controlling the monsters was fun in the Doom board game because you had to play as vicious as possible and use every single dirty trick you had at your disposal or the person playing Doomguy was gonna steamroller your ass right out the gate. Most games that have you play the monsters usually have weak monsters or are piss easy to win at as the villain because you are accomplishing an objective and just choke point the heroes with fodder while you carry it out.

A good monster controlling game should really lean into you having to be real bastard to the players.
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>>97043400
not really though. In flip7 your randomness is random at every card draw, which is the whole game. In Scout your randomness is just in the cards you draw, from then on you either take cards others played or play a set yourself, and that's not random, it's strategical.
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>>97042704
any 18XX, or Railways of the Lost Atlas, or City of the Big Shoulders, outdo Acquire easily
>inb4 waaah but they got more rules and complicated game always baaaaad
only to idiots who can't appreciate real corporate shenanigans and hostile takeovers.
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>>97044149
>City of the Big Shoulders
Is it just 18xx without the tracks? What's the benefit compared to other 18xx games?
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>>97044175
It's a worker placement cube pusher game where you can invest in your opponents' engines.

>>97044149
The juice isn't worth the squeeze. They're too long and they have too much downtime between turns.
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>>97044234
>The juice isn't worth the squeeze
Wrong
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>>97044234
>The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Same comment every time complex games are brought up. Get a new juicer, faggot.
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I’m now convinced that it’s one singular autist who’s the one that keeps seething about complex games
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I was looking for singleplayer wargames. Does anyone have B-17 leader on vassal? They're offering a paid module so I was wondering how it was.
It seems like a good idea to dip my toes in before taking the plunge on some of the pricier physical ones I was looking at.
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>Earthborne Rangers always said they were gonna do 1-2 expansions and then call it a day.
>Newman joins from FFG
>Earthborne Rangers already has 4 expansions, with 3 more on the way

Also what the FUCK is FFG doing with the new Arkham art? They hired that fucking retard from Mythos Busters, so I wish the game nothing but the worst at this point
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>>97044714
>singleplayer wargames
Like Nemo's War or Dawn of the Zeds? or actual wargame autism?
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>>97043290
Lol, if they could reprint netrunner there would about 5 different core sets by now. Wizards of the Coast took the license and went home with it.
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>>97044799
Wargame autism but if something else catches my eye I probably won't care. For example I thought about getting Nemesis and that recent Aliens board game.
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>>97044831
Nemesis is really cool (it's the best Aliens game, really) but I think it suffers a lot in singleplayer, sadly
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>>97044764
Yeah but Earthborne Rangers is bit a shit so...
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>>97044487
I think so, too
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>>97044901
nah
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>>97044764
>expansions in a campaign game
i vomit
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>>97040119
It's baffling to me that this game is ranked so highly. I was very disappointed after playing it.
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*rushes on stage*
*snatches the mic*
FUCKRENATURE
FUCKEARTHBORNERANGERS
*runs away*
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>>97044234
If people dont play like retards there is no downtime. If people do play like retards, even Acquire has too much downtime. So yes, the juice is very worth the squeeze, and if you and your group like Acquire, you will like 18XX games.

>>97044175
Basically, it replaces the map with a central actions board and players add more actions each cycle, then select from them and either the company loses money, the player who owns that action gains money, or both. So you want to play good actions but also dont make them too good so your opponents dont run away with its benefits.
Also going first is better than going last, as last players are late to the resource buying step and might just not get what they need to run and profit, unlike in most 18XX where going last means taking advantage of already built infrastructure. But also CotBS has the company turn order in a separate Appeal track rather than the share price, so you have even more things to worry about as president.
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>>97044967
It makes sense, like DLC for Skyrim or Fallout (the videogames) that just add new places to explore, new loot to find, new minigames to fool you into thinking this is somehow worth your money.
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>>97044714
the leader series is generally pretty solid. you kind've just know what you're in for regardless of the trimmings. if you want to fly imaginary B-17s or whatever I doubt you'll be disappointed. I would point you towards Storm above the Reich and Enemy Coast Ahead as options that feel somewhat more modern in design and aesthetic. Jeremy White knows his stuff.
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I tried so many damn games at Pax Unplugged and none of them hit. It feels like the bigger the board game bubble gets, the more normie-core the average game is.
>"cozy" slop
>knockoffs that don't innovate on their genres and are clearly just there to profit off a trend
>aesthetic nightmares, themed after some high fantasy/sci-fi concept by obligation but all the game pieces are just cubes
Seriously, it was discouraging.
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>>97045571
*applauds*
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>>97041659
Yeah, this is pretty brutal. I mean for old players that haven't played through all the campaigns and Return Tos, it's not a big deal because that's more than a year's worth of content right there. For old players that have played everything a bunch of times, it sucks cause there's nothing really new. But it really sucks if you're a new player just getting into Core 2.0 because all you have to look forward to is a limited card pool, 2 3-scenario adventures, and a single scenario standalone. That's not going to get people excited like a full campaign would - they'll go the Marvel route instead.

I also don't know who they are kidding by trying to go the standalone investigator purchase route. That works for MC because people have a connection to specific heroes so they enjoy buying their favorite hero to play. No one out there is buying up anything and everything Arkham because it's got Father Mateo in it. It's going to get real old for players buying $100 worth of investigator decks and end up with 10 copies of Guts or so they can get one specific card that's in an investigator deck.
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>>97045665
if you want crazy napkin designs scrawled in the fluids of the damned protospiel might be a better con for you.
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>>97042613
It's fun if you are playing with people that have a similar skillset as you and aren't liferstylers. I like the Railways series better because of the cards and the way that you can force the game end. It's very ugly though.
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>>97044764
Also dont forget
>shit quality of cards for a campaign game that gets new expansions will literally decay before next years drop is done

Also, how well will the new cards work if it requires you to keep replaying the same base campaign mostly?
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>>97042704
Any game where the person ahead of you can play stupid and make you lose is not a good game, let alone a good portfolio game.
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>>97045583
It makes sense before you get to the implementation part. Then you figure out that each new expansion area has to have its own scenario book and god knows what else, making everything feel disjointed and increasing the headache associated with playing the game.

The only game I've seen so far that doesn't suffer much from this is 7th Citadel (by extension of 7th Continent). The exploration system is such that you can just plop new cards in the box to set up the expansion.
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>>97045665
For me it's the gall of devs selling at MSRP.

"Here is this game you can get for the same price on Amazon..."

"...except, btw, you have to carry around a 30 pound box for the rest of the convention"

If I didnt buy online at that price why on EARTH would I buy it from your booth at that price??
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>>97045788
they know what they gort
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>>97045665
I mean by virtue of the market growing pretty fast, of course there's more and more companies trying to game it. Doesn't mean there's no innovation or improvements.

>>97045754
Anon, we've been there before. This is something that comes with interaction, for good and bad.
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>>97045788
I think you're underestimating how many people visit conventions and buy everything they find even semi-interesting, which is only intensified by the convention atmosphere. Most of them will never get played, ofc. But yeah I do NOT understand why one would visit conventions that aren't focussed on actually playing games. There's no longer special promos or sales.
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For how much Cole fellates kingmaking, it's surprising he's never made a pure negotiation game.
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>>97045931
Isn't JC just that?
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>>97045926
>>97045788
This - 2 or 3 weeks after a big con like Pax or BGG is a great time to snag stuff that just came out on discount on Marketplace. Some of it's still NIS, punched and sleeved but never played, or played once.
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>>97040381
Ark Nova actually has a lot of interaction for a euro, but it takes a dozen plays to even realize when and where those spots exist and how to exploit them
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Rate this collection of wargames
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>>97040381
Introverts who are conflict averse think hate-drafting is interaction lol
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Play Dune Imperium

(on Steam)
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>>97043400
So Flip 7 but good
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>>97045665
Can you name examples of each thing you listed? That would be helpful to know what to avoid.
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>>97046084
>its got Plantagenet
These shelves can do no wrong
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>>97045788
I thought people took their stuff to the car in the parking lot. Do people actually carry boxes for hours? lol
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>>97045865
>the market growing pretty fast
how fast is it growing?
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I have no friends, what is a fun solo game?
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>>97046084
>no Federation & Empire

hmmmm
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>>97046127
10% anually, has been for the last decade or so. I have too little reference to really tell, but that seems fast.
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>>97046134
Unstoppable, Aerion, Witchcraft, Astro Knights, For Northwood, ROVE.
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>>97046127
Every day I visit the gulag there's like a million fundraisers for games I have never heard of. I can't remember the exact number but I think around 5000 or so get published every year across retail, online, and independent mediums. So it's growing pretty fast. Is the quality of games improving, though? That's the real question. I think some areas are better than ever. Solo games, for example. Wide variety and better quality compared to ten years ago.
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>>97046069
I think I have over 100 games logged and lolno. Almost every euro that initially seems multiplayer solitaire-ish becomes subjectively more interactive with increasing number of plays, largely because the moments of interactivity matter more as you are looking for an edge. Ark Nova definitely isn't an interactive game.
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>>97046084
You've got Dust collecting on your shelves.
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>>97046176
Carlos!
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>>97046164
>Is the quality of games improving, though?
Uniroinically doesn't really matter. Sure we get annoyed at massively successful shit games, but it's like the videogame industry. The more people are into boardgames, the more niche and weird stuff can be successful as well. Though hobby boardgaming has been weirdly resistant to slop; I mean a TON of slop gets made ofc, but the reprints and evergreens that come up again and again (like knizias auction series, el grande, dominion, etc) are suprisingly good games for how mainstream they are. Noone's talking about big crowdfunding trash a year after release
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>>97046134
You want straightforward fun?
Rove or Sprawlopolis.
You want brutal fun?
Too Many Bones, Assault on Doomrock
You want a thinky session with modular difficulty?
Spirit Island or Imperium (Legends, Classics, or Horizons)
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>>97045665
If you ever see the word cozy run as fast as you can.

And yeah I agree. 90% of the time I would rather replay Ra, Chinatown, El Grande, Hansa, etc than whatever is the flavor of the month.
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>>97046220
>If you ever see the word cozy run as fast as you can.
care to name some examples?
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>Just learned there is some variation of Christians who wouldn't play a game if it has magic or demons
>some even refuse to play games by Asmodee because it was named after a demon
>there's even a youtube channel
interesting world we're living in
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>>97046134
Just play on bga or tts? Yucata?
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>>97046154
>>97046202
Thanks guys. ROVE and Imperium look like stuff I might enjoy.
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>>97046309
The entire Imperium line has more stuff than you need honestly.
I would recc starting with Horizons as it makes running bots a lot easier, but otherwise Legends beats out Classics in terms of civ offerings.
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Is Betrayal of the Second Era just a flat-out improvement on Too Many Bones?
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>>97046303
I honestly forgot they existed.

>>97046315
Looks like it'll just be Imperium, ROVE is apparently sold out nearly everywhere. I figured Classics would be best to get first but if you rec Horizons then I'll try that.
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>>97046344
>ROVE is apparently sold out nearly everywhere.
Do you live in the US? Here's ROVE.

https://buttonshygames.com/products/rove?_pos=2&_psq=rove&_ss=e&_v=1.0
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>>97046220
I have never played a game that labelled itself as "cozy" or "relaxed" either because a big part of playing boardgames for me is the challenge. I suppose if my wife was interested in boardgames I could see myself playing a small 2p game with nice atmosphere like paris la cite de la lumiere on a slow summer sunday evening, but even then, I'd play for a challenge. No idea what this 'cozy games' thing tries to accomplish. Same for vidya; these idle games seem like nothing but an actual waster of lifetime
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name 5 cozy games
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>>97046234
I don't remember any of them. I just saw pictures of kittens or tea on the box art along with some cozy tagline and kept walking.
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>>97046220
speaking of cozy has anyone played A Place For All My Books? I like the theme and what I've seen of the gameplay but Smirk and Dagger games seem to get worse the longer the rulebook is...
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>>97046259
Sounds based, just think of all the slop they've filtered out for such an arbitrary reason.
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i need a light or medium push-your-luck dice game. any recs? preferably good games
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>>97046513
MLEM, Ra, and Deep Sea Adventure
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>>97046513
Loar's dice (or Bluff or whatever its called) is still king of light push your luck dice games. Just don't spend money on the official game, it's just a bunch of dice and plastic cups.
Also, here's a bit of a hot take; Can't Stop - while in theory the essence of the genre - is a trash game that far overstays its welcome
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>>97046513
Spots
MLEM
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What are some good, yet simple enough dungeon crawlers or some sort of adventure games? I only played Jaws of the lion and while I liked the idea of the game (party of heroes fighting through a story) the game overall did not seem that fun with the card system. It's like a timer puzzle but it didn't add to this type of game imo.
Anyway are there any other that would be worth checking out that aren't a giant box and are relatively simple enough?
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>>97046169
>pilfering
>venom
>hypnotize
>constriction
>digging
>shark attack
>sponsor magnet
>variable round timing
>association blocking
>breaking-off workers
>end of round card denial
literally all mechanics that can be used to directly screw over your opponent, I'm not saying it's a Pax game or something, but it has more interaction than most Euro games releasing these days.
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>>97046513
Martian Dice
Poker dice
Piña Coladice
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>>97046698

No giant box, relatively simple? You could do a lot worse than some of the D&D Adventure System games. Castle Ravenloft and Temple of Elemental Evil are some of the standouts in that series. Not easy to find these days though.
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>>97046169
No in this case there actually is 2 extra pages of rules you find that make the game more interactive. They're stuck together until you've done 50 plays.
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>>97045665
I didn't find anything that's jumped out at me either. I saw a lot of dudes lugging around Slay the Spire, which is hilarious because that was also the case last year. This time around, I didn't see anything new and exciting.
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>>97046513
Claim It!
Seconding MLEM >>97046535
Seconding Perudo >>97046541

I would also like to recommend Celestia, but I'm sure it qualifies as a dice game.

>>97046535
Ra is not a dice game either.

I have mixed feelings on Deep Sea Adventure, but I do think Deep Sea Adventure Boost fixes most of it's issues.
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Oh so you think you're hot shit? You think you know gaming? Alright, name 1 truly good game. Hard mode: No MPS bullshit.
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>>97047185
>Ra is not a dice game either.
I think anon means Ra: the dice game (out of print) or Ra: the dice game: deluxe edition (not even out yet)
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>>97047185
>I have mixed feelings on Deep Sea Adventure, but I do think Deep Sea Adventure Boost fixes most of it's issues.
what were the issues?
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>>97046535
>>97046574
>>97047185
wtf, why does every one like MLEM?? i need to check it out asap
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>>97047478
is it like his solo game Galaktix but multiplayer? let's see...
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Any good games about dictators?
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>>97043994
>Asmodee
Asmodee is Asmodeus in French. It's a demon in all three Abrahamic religions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodeus
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>>97047596
1979: Revolution in Iran
No Motherland Without
Cuba Libre
Whatever recent south american flavoured one that came out about cajoling dictators in...argentina? Chile? One or the other.
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>>97045689
>I also don't know who they are kidding by trying to go the standalone investigator purchase route. That works for MC because people have a connection to specific heroes so they enjoy buying their favorite hero to play. No one out there is buying up anything and everything Arkham because it's got Father Mateo in it. It's going to get real old for players buying $100 worth of investigator decks and end up with 10 copies of Guts or so they can get one specific card that's in an investigator deck.
Agreed. The current starter packs are only recommended based on how much they impact the card pool, and of them the only two anyone really recommend are Jacqueline because she has a complete set of staple spells for Mysitc which is important if you don’t have a lot of player cards, and Winnifred because she actually adds a lot to Rogue.
Also, I’m gonna be extremely disappointed if the new starters are mono-class like the old ones. I don’t own Dream Eaters so I wanted Tommy for awhile but not if he can’t take Survivor cards.
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>>97046084
>Votes for Women
>way too many DVG slopgames
Other than that it’s good
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>>97047478
It's not a 10/10 game or anything, but it's always gone over well when I show it to people.
The gameplay is pretty straight forward too.

At the start of every round, each player in turn order adds a cat to the spaceship.
Each turn, the pilot (initially the start player) rolls dice (numbered F12234) and decides which dice to use and which not to use.
The space the spaceship is moving from limits which dice can be used and most dice have to be discarded when used.
After successfully moving, each player in turn order can get their cat off at a destination to score points.
If the pilot's cat gets off, the next player in turn order who's cat is still on becomes the pilot.
If the ship fails it crashes and the round ends. The round also ends if every player's cat has gotten off.
At the end of the round, there's a check for the game to end if the ship has crashed enough times or any player has gotten all 8 of their cats to destinations.

There are 3 types of destinations that all score slightly differently.
You also get points for being the first player to meet objectives by having the rights number of cats at the right types of destinations.

The 8 cats all have special powers.
3 give extra points at certain destinations, 3 help you get to destinations, 1 makes you tolerant of the ship crashing, and 1 makes it easier for the ship to crash after you get off.

There is also some "optional" stuff that you really should use if you're playing MLEM.
It's variable quantities of starting dice each round, a token the pilot can spend to help move the ship, 6 markers on spaces that reward the pilot for landing on them, and hidden objectives that reward each player for getting to specific destinations.
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You've been isekaied into the last boardgame (the world that represents its theme and gameplay) you've played.
What's gonna be your experience?
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>>97048049
>Arkham Horror LCG
I’m in danger
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Is Dice Throne good? It looks like slop but I like chucking dice.
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>>97048049
>Star Trek Captain's Chair
i've got it made
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>>97048049
Catan: New Energies. Considering most people went green energy, it'll be absolutely okay.
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>>97048108
Someone in my group has it and I enjoy it enough that I occasionally ask to play it. But if they left the group or sold it I would not go out and buy my own copy.
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>>97048211
oh it's a they. is this a game for the trans community?
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>>97048258
Doxx protection. They is gender neutral. If I give you too many dots you might connect them.
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>>97048049
>The Crew: Mission deep sea
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>>97048295
I already know who you are. I already know all the /bgg/ anons. I touch your shelves. I fiddle with your components. Sometimes I take one counter. Or skew a box. I press on anons' kallax shelves, just enough to help start a bend. Sometimes I crease a rulebook or a card. You all deserve it for what you did.
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>>97048211
What about Too Many Bones? That game looks like it has a fuckton of dice.
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>>97048507
>You all deserve it for what you did.
We did right by you. Dune is a good game. If your group didn't like it you might be the problem.
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>>97048507
>Or skew a box.
Of all the sins, this is the most foul.
A pox upon your table, and black mold unto your sleeves!
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>>97046084
Ywnbaw/10
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>>97044487
Not the one anon who chimps out every time, but I agree with him more than others, most complex games are not fun. There are some good ones but people who pride themselves on heavy gaming are insufferable losers and it's the only thing that allows them to feel superior to other people.
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Was this really how they marketed Barbarossa? O______o
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>>97048826
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>>97048049
>I'm either Richard Nixon or I work for the Washington post

Hmmm
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>>97048049
For me, it's barbarossa
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Is Prelude 2 good for TM? What about Colonies or Turmoil? I've avoided the map expansions, Venus, Hellas and Amazonis and only play with Prelude and a crapstack (like 200) of corporations I pnp'd.
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>>97048829
It works, I badly want all of the things in this picture including the couch.
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>>97048826
>>97048829
is this real
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>>97048049
Today was Century Spice Trilogy and Terraforming Mars Ares. I could live with either.
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>>97048915
it's AI generated anon, girls aren't real.
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>>97048049
I'm in the mood for exactly 2 burgers and 1 slice of pizza and if I don't get them I'll simply starve to death.
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>>97048901
It is a nice looking leather couch
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>>97048049
I have bribed my way into the positions of Palace Decorator, Head of the Night Guard, and Royal Taste Tester.
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>>97046084
There's some really good stuff in there without being pure grog territory - would play with this individual.
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>>97043400
Scout isn't a push-your-luck.
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>>97043400
so gin rummy but with shitty art?
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>>97049151
You described Mahjong
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>>97048797
>but people who pride themselves on heavy gaming are insufferable losers and it's the only thing that allows them to feel superior to other people.
The only one who seems to feel superior to others is you anon.
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>>97049195
What's your favorite traditional card game?
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>>97049195
They're board games. The ability to play one doesn't make you superior to anyone except browns.
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>>97049195
>>97049418
Wrong.
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Why is this whole medium so underdeveloped? it's 2025 and "people" in "the hobby" still think Root is a wargame.
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>>97048049
>Abyss: Conspiracy
drown i guess
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>>97048049
>Spirit Island
Well, guess I'm royally fucked no matter which side I pick! Guy with Arkham had better luck.
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>>97049457
Do trannies play it? Yes? Then it’s a war game.
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>>97049479
I guess so, no matter what side you choose you’ll die of boredom in the most boring setting in the world.
>a-at least the gameplay is good
"No!" The gameplay is dreadful; the game was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time a minor power was played, the player did it for the symbols instead of an interesting effect.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time a card was played for symbols only. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Reuss' mind is so governed by bland effects and thinly veiled set collection that he has no other style of gameplay. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Spirit Island by the same Kenneth Johnson. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these manchildren are playing Spirit Island at 31 or 32, then when they get older they will go on to play Phase 10." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Spirit Island" you are, in fact, trained to play Phase 10.
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>>97049342
NTA but I'll give a hint:
>4player, tricktaker
>Players bid on the game mode
>Commonly a hidden team game
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>>97046698
>good dungeon crawlers or adventure games
I'm also interested, a sort of good intro for these type of games.

>>97046879
Sadly, not available
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>>97048049
>Windward
Not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, flying ships are dope as fuck. On the other hand, falling to my death is not how I want to go.
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>>97048995
What's wrong with iello? What a downgrade...

>>97049457
Whether you agree it's a wargame or not thats what it was "marketed" as. Everytime it was mentioned it was presented as a wargame.
>"Cole tricked you into playing a wargame"
>"It's actually a coin game"
>"Wargame with cute animals"
You've probably seem comments like this and similar.
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I have a very controversial definition of wargame that makes most boardgamers seethe for some reason.
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>>97049644
>What a downgrade...
Having played it a few times the cardboard banners are fucking horrendous but I do like the scoring change.
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Are there any card combat games/ "dueling" games that play well at more than 2 players?
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>>97049688
Whats the scoring change? Second place points?
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>>97045926
This shit turned me off from the con desu. It might be my first and last convention for that reason. The mindless consumer culture surrounding this stuff is exhausting.
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Opinions on cardhaus? is it a reliable store?
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>>97048049
>Slay the Spire
I'm gonna get stabbed
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>>97047405
La Famiglia. It combines everything games into one package. Its pvp and coop slop. It's worker placement and war game. It's euro-style open information number crunching and american-style hidden information poker bluffing. It's the perfect game as it appeals to everyone.
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>>97049761
Yup. Second place gets half what first place gets, rounded down.
I wasn't expecting to like it because I thought it would make things too chaotic after people have discarded cards in auctions for gold but that hasn't been my experience playing with it.
What actually comes of it is that if someone has an uncontested lead in a suit, they still have an incentive to spread points across multiple suits and other players still have an incentive to draft cards in that suit.

There is also a slight change to the end game tie-breakers.
If there is a tie on points and gold and no player in the tie won the Diplomacy suit (the Monks suit) you check to see who has the best Diplomacy tie-breaking letter.
The tie-breaking only continues on to additional suits (as it does in Biblios) if none of the players in the tie have any cards of the suit being checked.

For The King (and Me) also has 21 additional cards.
20 of them are only used in 5 player games. It's 2 of each gold, 1 of each of the King cards (Church cards) available in Biblios (but not the new King card), and a Livestock suit (with the same card distribution as the Monk and Pigment suits). But in a 5 player game you don't burn any cards during setup.
The 21st card is a new King card that gives +1 to one suit and -1 to another. It's used at all player counts and in a 2, 3, or 4 player game you burn one additional card to keep the deck an appropriate size.
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>>97046783
Still disagree. Almost all the direct fuck you abilities are exceedingly rare and snatching x away from others is the hallmark of low interaction euros. Fact is you almost exclusively interact indirectly through the card market and association actions.
But before we go on, you said its one of the more interactive euros in recent times. To be honest I've not played many euro releases post 2020 amd the problem is my frame of reference. Which ones do you consider lower interaction?
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>>97048049
>Gaia Project
Now that I think about it, a scenario where the most conflict alien races have is passive aggressively taking away positions and placement spaces seems kind of utopist
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>>97048829
>>97048826
Oh what the fuck this cannot possibly be real
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is netrunner cube a thing? i like the gameplay more than magic, but i find drafting way more fun than constructed formats
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>>97048797
>but people who pride themselves on heavy gaming
Where are these people? Or do you mean the ones who don't like lightweight games and shit on their perceived lack of substance
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>>97048797
The only reason there's any sentiment against light games around here is because of microcephalic cretins who cannot help but insert themselves into discussions about heavy games which they themselves do not play at all.

Here's a pro tip. If you have less than 5 heavy games in your collection that you play at least semi-regularly, keep your opinions to yourself. We'll play and discuss heavy games on our side of the yard, and you can grind your abstracts and brag about MMRs on BGA on your side.

>most complex games are not fun
Applies to everything. Find the few which are fun and play those, nobody's forcing you to enjoy 50-page MPS games or whatever your issue is.
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>>97048797
>most complex games are not fun
I would argue the good:bad ratio is even worse for lightweight games
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Has anyone ever pulled off a game about trains in which each construction type of wagon has its own ability/special rule?
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>>97049769
Yeah they good
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>>97050417
Iirc There is a post apocalyptic game its driving across the board to get on a boat and you have an "engine" which is your car and trailers which provide benefits. The cars have different engine sizes and attributes. The card arts are a little cartoony. It's like 51st state but cars.
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You're playing a game and drawing cards but a player keeps drawing out of turn order taking "your" cards in an "everybody draw" scenario with a clear origin. What do?
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>>97050535
Name?

>>97050549
If the card in the deck are randomized (no "put on top" skill has been used), then it's a non-issue, since probability distibution is the same. I understand it can be disruptive though.
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>>97049693
Mtg, dice throne, unmatched ??

>>97050417
There are some where each cart is a card and it has some scoring, actions and such.
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>>97050549
Nothing, as >>97050717 said, it's inconsequential. It's easy to be autistic about it but it helps to remind yourself that it's akin to dicerolls. You wouldn't be mad someone threw a dice out of turn and stole 'your' result. Same here, if the deck has been reasonably shuffled, every card is every possible card at once until someone draws it.
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>>97043168
I was going to buy Twilight Imperium 4th edition. Since my old 3rd edition is showing its age due to usage.
But I can't find copies of the damn thing. Did they only make like 100 of the damn thing?
I'm having an easier time finding copies of 3rd and even second edition than 4th
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>>97049928
Netrunner has had draft products https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/android-netrunner-draft-play/ but they were never popular. The only limited format I know of that has any traction is Chimera. https://playchimera.net/
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I hope they never reprint rokugan so my copy remains valuable
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>>97050417
There was that one wargame made by /tg/ anons about trains, Derailed i think it was called, where you make your own train and fight another train on magical indestructible rails. Each wagon had special use, either space to store cargo/passengers that you get points for defending, weapons to attack with, the observer room to "scout the track ahead" and place rail cards, and so on. But idk where the project is at now, haven't seen much about it in a while.
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>>97050417
Yeah, Empyreal.
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>>97050717
>>97050792
Nta but it's nice to read anons being so reasonable about it. Classic card game players always are anal about draw order, thinking they were cheated out of a winning card in these scenarios.
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>>97048049
>KD:M
I guess I'm going to die horribly and the chances of that death involving gargantuan genitalia are non-zero. At least all the women around me have enormous racks.

>>97049624
That was the second last game I played. You got it comfy anon. Ride out the storms in the lower decks and make sure your retard captain doesnt keep you out at sky longer than your rations will allow.
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>>97050417
>>97050900
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/catchpoint-games/derailed
Don't get your hopes up, though, it seems pretty dead at this point
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Looking for recs for board and card games for two. I'm not too in the loop with games but I like stuff that's easy to pick up but with a lot of depth like go and hanabi. I'm also pretty into bridge. Something like triple triad from FFVIII would be cool.
I've played wingspan a few times and while it's fun it felt like there were basically just a handful of strategies to learn and then you execute them based on what you draw. Something similar but better balanced and with a little more complexity would be fine. I don't like games that seem like vectors to sell toys and someone's art, and I'm pretty agnostic as far as scenarios are concerned. That's all pretty vague but I wonder if anything comes to mind.
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>>97051294
Boop
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kickstarters ruined board games
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>>97051294
innovation
crisps
panda spin
haggis
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>>97045939
no, it's also a betting game and something i can only describe as insider trading. If you've got important positions you can just choose to not make the company any money and suddenly the shares you sold to your friends for favors and retirement money are now worth negative VP because the company went bust, or more accurately you made it go bust on purpose, "but its ok, we have the Crown's protection, the game is not over yet, surely the event won't fuck us up" and then they see 4 events where the borders get closed and the one region with major EIC military presence gets raided and everyone in the officers box is killed.
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>>97051294
jaipur
abalone

>>97051480
>he doesn't live off the FOMO all in never play crowd
getting my big boxes on the cheap 3 years later is pretty cool
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>>97048826
>>97048829
It looks like a Tanto Cuore game but with WWII theme? Ok I want it
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solo bros, are you backing Radiance? looks kinda cool
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>>97046176
That's just Dust covers.
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>>97050329
Probably, the difference is that people don't pretend like those shitty light games are good because they are light games.
There are entire war game companies that only exist to sell complex shitty games to morons who think heavy == good.

Favorite game is Labyrinth war on terror fwiw.
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>>97049584
>t. Hans
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>>97049763
>>97045665
Go to conventions that revolve around actually playing games rather than consoomer cons like PAX Unplugged. I've never been so I can't say for sure, but it just looks like a worse Gen Con. At least at Gen Con there's actual reveals and some exclusive shit.
I'm on the other side of the country so I don't know what the scene is over there, but the conventions I attend are unironically ran for gamers, by gamers. I have a blast at them trying out games both new and old, hosted by people who actually enjoy playing them and aren't trying to sell you something. There's a dealer hall at these conventions where you can find those types, but they're very much not the draw. All the action is in the open gaming areas.
I could go on, but the point is you shouldn't write off all cons just because you went to a bad one. Usually the smaller the better in my opinion (unless they're dinky).
I'm sure there's gotta be some better options out there.
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>>97045788
I get it for true indie devs whose games aren't on Amazon, especially those where you can basically only buy the game directly from them. Those guys are off the hook (although a little $5 off wouldn't hurt).
Bigger players whose games are easily available at a discount however? Never understood it either, but they have to make money from people like >>97045926 mentioned, otherwise you wouldn't see them every year.
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>>97048507
>Sometimes I take one counter.
I WILL track you down, kill you, then exterminate your entire extended bloodline to retroactively ensure such faggotry doesn't enter the gene pool.
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>>97052758
You can't track shit without your precious counters hahahahahahahaha!
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>>97046115
Seconding this
>>97045665
plz don't be a faggot and deliver OP. I need to know what games not to waste my time and/or money on.
>>97046220
I'd typically agree with this. At best they're fine, but nothing special. An example that immediately comes to my mind is Let's Go to Japan which my wife, who is usually immune to this shit, got sucked into (I married a weeb).
It's not bad and I don't mind playing it when she wants to bust it out on board game nights, but it's just alright at the end of the day.
On the flip side, I remember people online calling Patchwork a cozy game, but when a friend and I tried it, it was anything but. Felt more like a cutthroat math puzzle to me.
Not like that's a bad thing either, but cozy? I don't think so.
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>>97052773
wrong, I put GPS tracking chips into every counter and token i own
i WILL find you, and you WILL return what you stole
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>>97052499
>There are entire war game companies that only exist to sell complex shitty games to morons who think heavy == good.
>GMT, MMP, Compass, VUCA, etc… going “I KNOW WHAT I GOT”
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>>97052868
>implying I don't wrap stolen property in foil, send it overseas so that when it is unwrapped it is already half way around the globe
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>>97052831
Patchwork is cute, simple, and over quickly. Cozy is a perfectly fine term especially considering it is similar to another cozy activity couples do, which is solving (?) picture puzzles.

Calling it cutthroat is doing disservice to the term.
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>>97053123
If the other player isn’t crying at the end of Patchwork, Boop! or Hey! That’s my fish! then you’re not playing the game.
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>>97052831
I get where you are coming from, but I think patchwork can be 'cozy' insofar as it's got a very relaxed theme and you can play very much from your gut if you like and you'll still have a good time (provided both players do this). But patchwork is an actually good game, so you can play it smarter and meaner. Compare this to something like, say, Gnome hollow which is definitely oozing 'cozy' yet is an absolute bore, gameplaywise.
I also think that other anon (and me) tend to associate the 'cozy' term with such laid back but ultimately inconsequential and boring gameplay features
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>>97053251
I pity you for your gaming partners.
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are there cute women in conventions? I've never been to one
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>>97053251
>Hey! That’s my fish!
I've heard Battle Sheep provides a similar experience with a shorter setup time.
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>>97048049
>Moonrakers
Well, I guess I won't live long enough, but I will go out with a bang at least.
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>>97051480
I buy all-ins, so I can resell them between 3 - 5 times the price, just to spite people like you while I make bank.

>>97053513
Yeah, you can start by asking them how big their cocks are.
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>>97053625
>I buy all-ins, so I can resell them between 3 - 5 times the price, just to spite people like you while I make bank.

Are you a burger? Because all I see here is vast amounts of unopened KS desperately trying to sell it for the original price without shipping. I take it it's only a select very few KS?
how's 6 siege lmao
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>>97053625
so do you make good money or are you just joking?
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>>97053513
picture a typical daytime midweek Walmart crowd, subtract 15 years and every trace of personal hygiene and you are in the ballpark. cons are just grim.
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>>97048049
Tragedy Looper (last night). I'm not charismatic enough to get Goodwill, though...
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>>97052757
Yeah, the creators of Too Many Bones/Betrayal of the Second Era was there selling both their games for MSRP. Like dude I can get your game AT THIS VERY CON for $25+ cheaper. Are you insane?

Not /bgg/ related but I also spied the writers for Battlezoo Eldemon. Their hardcovers were $60-70 bucks. Bit deluded when you can get any RPG PDF for literally free.
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Played Gaia Project + Expansion this weekend. Gotta say I really like the game but I got an insight into why some people hate the TM series and generally games of that genre. Had a bit of a bumpy start, made a few key mistakes (got almost no power the first 3 turns) and was acutely aware I'm only fighting for 3rd place at most midgame. While that's a skill issue on my part, the amount of time spent waiting for others after passing was massive and the endgame trend of minmaxing HARD which I already disliked before became nigh unbearable.
I imagine playing these type of game with people of varying skill levels unsuprisingly will not be a good experience.
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chip theory games is having a sale this week starting today at midnight.
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>>97053947
I think I remember Ignacy from portal games saying they had something like 500 boxes of age of galaxy (or was it bohemians?) with them for essen and it completely sold out on day2. I assume essen is more a shopping con, but still.
>>97053947
>Their hardcovers were $60-70 bucks. Bit deluded
I agree, but it's similar to boardgame prices: the industry just adapts to what people are apparently prepared to pay. Looking forward to the logical conclusion of this when boardgames get handmade 3-4 times and sold for a million bucks each
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so is too many bones good or nah
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>>97054112
It's great if you have a specific brand of autism. But if you don't mind TES backdrop, Betrayal of the Second Era really is just an improvement on the entire system.
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>>97054150
My main issue with it is that it doesn't look very thematic. The board is just some checkers. Is there a story at all or is it just random encounters?
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>>97054157
Honestly because it's $200, you should try it on TTS first. It's literally free and has all the books / pieces.
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Most of the people at cons are 30+. Do they actually have enough time to play all the games they buy? They have jobs, children, and whatnot. Yet I see them buying all these big box adventure games that require a huge time investment.
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>>97044714
I will once again shill for Infernal Machine: Dawn of Submarine Warfare because you can still get in for the P500 price.
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>>97054238
>They have jobs, children, and whatnot.
I would argue that the biggest consoomers have only the former. As an anon said before, IT money was a mistake. You've got bachelors filling the void with purchases they'll never play and/or don't have time to even learn. These are the people throwing 600 euro at a ks game without blinking and won't even remember it when it arrives at their doorstep.
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>>97046330
does TMB have a board printed with cum splatters all over it? Because BotSE does.
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I fucked an Asmodee demo woman in 2023 (without protection). We added each other on social media after the demo and decided to hang out later. Months later she announces she's pregnant and she and her husband (!) are really happy. She never told me she was married. It's been years but sometimes I wonder if that kid is mine. I honestly haven't used social media since that incident. I'm afraid to open it again and realize she has posted pictures of her kid and he looks like me. What should I do? She's from France.
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>>97048838
what games?
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>>97048049
>Unfathomable
haha fuck
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>>97054314
Watergate (2019)
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>>97054338
thanks
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>>97048049
Last game I played was Invincible: the dice game but there's no board so it's not a board game. Last actual board game I played was Slay the Spire. I would get killed by slimes and other monsters a lot while waiting for a good card.
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>>97054089
>Looking forward to the logical conclusion of this when boardgames get handmade 3-4 times and sold for a million bucks each
Shit I better start selling off my PnP's
>>97053265
>I think patchwork can be 'cozy' insofar as it's got a very relaxed theme and you can play very much from your gut if you like and you'll still have a good time (provided both players do this)
I could see that. However...
>But patchwork is an actually good game, so you can play it smarter and meaner.
This is what actually happened between the friend and I who tried it. We were mathing out our moves two moves in advance while also trying to juke out another by hate drafting to screw the other's plans.
I know this sounds horrible to some folk, but we actually both had fun doing it, trying to one up another. Cursing and laughing when I clearly dicked over my friend's plans and vice versa.
I agree that makes it a good game, but, like I said, I didn't get to see the cozy side of it when I played as you can play it MEAN if you want to.
>I also think that other anon (and me) tend to associate the 'cozy' term with such laid back but ultimately inconsequential and boring gameplay features
An actual cozy game in my book is something chill, usually MPS, where you can hardly mess with another. A knitting circle game where we all try to make the best quilt before time's up.
Wingspan comes to mind, where the worst I can do to someone is grab a resource they need from the bird feeder or nab a bird card before they do. Otherwise you're hardly doing much of anything to another beyond, "Oh you did the lay eggs action? Okay then my Great Tit lays a fat egg on my Morning Woodpecker, lol thx."
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>>97053513
Honestly, yes in my experience, but not many and they're nearly always taken. The only ones that aren't are weirdos (or lipstick lesbians).
Most are hamplanets to be frank.
Granted I only go to local cons, not the big giant ones. v
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>>97053513
All the cute girls are usually just e-thots at cons.
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>>97044714
Fields of Fire
Any John Butterfield game (Enemy Action, D-Day at Omaha Beach, RAF, etc…)
Commancheria
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>>97049928
https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/8700f6fa-4ada-4165-86c3-9a6359308b72/stimhack-cube-runner-june-2025-elevation-
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I haven't checked here for almost a month. Any cool announcements?
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>>97054087
Oh shit, really? I've ordered from them before and have been putting off getting the Hoplomachus expansion.
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>>97040119
Actually not bad. Five tribes was the highest, I've heard lots of good about it but haven't played. Arcs was the second highest, I really enjoyed the test game I played against myself, but I need to play it against real people. Concordia was number 3, and I do like Concordia. Hansa Teutonica was the 6th highest and it's my favorite game.
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Hans Tetón
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>>97047419
The biggest issue is that if someone has a commanding lead they can maintain their lead by forcing everyone to either drown or barely score any points. Boost solves that by not letting people know they have a commanding lead. You only get to see what's on your score tiles at the end of the game.
A smaller issue is that if you roll a big number going down, then everyone else turns around, and you roll a small number chasing them you can lose the pack and drown because you aren't getting the extra movement from leapfrogging people. It's an unpleasant play pattern and it's something that happens to you rather than something you do to yourself. Boost gives you enough agency over your movement that if this happens it's usually your own fault rather than bad luck.
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>>97055064
Nice
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>>97053594
How is Moonrakers?
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>>97049418
Brown board gamers are usually based.
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>>97055004
Tigris & Euphrates is finally getting a reprint. It’s the same company and style as the Ra reprint
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>>97055151
>How is Moonrakers?
I thought it was an all-garnish-and-no-meat kind of game seeing how pricey and eye-candy the game was. I got invited to a table with some guys playing it. And to my surprise, it is a really fun deckbuilding despite not being a fan of the genre, until now. And I had a great time negotiating between turns on whoever gets the rewards for each contract the players had to get through. I might just gonna grab the standard edition when I get the opportunity to do so.
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>>97055440
When are they announcing Tigris & Write?
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>>97055049
literally me
I think this test needs to tag the games better, and/or weight the results less heavily
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What is the best LotR board game besides War of the Ring?
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>>97056238
Allegedly the recent pandemic version (I'm getting the lotr bg names mixed up, the titles are pure shit and there's been a bunch of new ones recently) is pretty good, but I'm not touching a coop.
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>>97056238
lotr trick taker desu
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>>97056238
>LotR The Confrontation (what if Knizia made Stratego)
>LotR LCG (what if a game cost an arm and a leg but didn’t get gay and lame like everything else FFG touches these days)
>Fellowship of the Rings Trick Taking Game (what if The Crew had Frodo in it)
>LotR Fate of the Fellowship (what if Pandemic was a good game)
Also Lords and Kings of Middle-Earth for WotR.
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>>97056238
The 7 Wonders Duel rip off is fun
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>>97056477
>>97056345
>>97056238
>LotR: the crew
>LotR: Pandemic
>LotR: 7w duel
>Somehow they all are supposedly better than the original
This is exceedingly weird, is lotr the one IP that actually makes products better?
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>>97056523
LoTR Twilight Imperium when?
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>>97056697
I am continuously suprised noone has yet attempted to design fantasy ti4. I mean you could more or less lift 90% off Ti, rename it thematically and still sell it. Petersen would probably not even be mad given the state ffg is now
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>>97056704
>>97056697
The game is simply not good and not worth converting into a different IP.
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>>97056523
LotR: FCM when?
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>>97056939
LotR: Horseless Carriage when?
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>>97056477
>rip off
it's an official remake
>>97056523
Brass: Mordor when?
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>>97056697
Dune(OG or 2019) would be a better fit than TI4, because in TI the faction uniqueness is only in a few abilities and techs, while using mostly the same ships to do the same stuff; but in LotR each faction is also unique in what objectives they have, on top of special shit they might have just happen to them because the story is quirky like that.
Actually, now that I think about it a bit more, Dune is also a bad fit. When are we getting Middle-Earth Universalis: the Ring of Power? The Event card system is a perfect tool for the job.
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>>97056523
>is lotr the one IP that actually makes products better
most of those were already highly rated games. Lotr is just a nice and popular theme so a 2ed of a popular game + a liked theme will most likely succeed.
It would be interesting if it would be applied to a goo game but with trash theme or a bad game (that would obviously needed to be improved).
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>>97057418
I mean, better implies just that, not that it magically made monopoly work.
Although I would argue that pandemic IS utter trash. Then again, I haven't played the lotr version so it might just be trash in a nice package
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>>97056704
You literally just described Runewars
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Thoughts on Gamers Guild AZ?
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>>97055151
It's a barebones Dominion deck builder with negotiation.

Negotiation entirely depends on playgroup, but in all cases makes any game 3x to 4x play time, and always suffers from lategame munckin back-stabbing.

Most Euro-gamers will hate it, most casuals won't get it, and to many spikes will drag it down while in it.
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>>97057636
How come I see it mentioned so very rarely? Seems like "Fantasy Ti" would be enough of a selling point to see people play it once and keep it in their top 10 forever
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>>97054087
>"sales"
>check site
>Jewish fomo shit
>no meaningful discounts
rofl
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>>97057949
I think it's been out of print for some time.

>>97056523
Are there any good LotR adventure / dungeon crawler type games?
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>>97058014
Lotr journeys in middle earth is one but it’s not great. I never got to play Quest for Mount Doom but heard some good things about it
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>>97057495
I can’t stand Pandemic either but Fate of the Fellowship dumps in a load of thematically appropriate game mechanics to the Pandemic formula that makes it a much better game than any other version of Pandemic. I’d almost say it drifts closer to feeling like a cooperative War of the Ring than anything else.
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>>97055899
Wait yeah, that is literally my exact result. It's probably not all that conclusive for two of us to get identical results.
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Knizia...
KNEEL
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>>97058001
>>97054087
>Only product line from them I care about is Hoplomachus remastered
>You can buy the base game with the expansion and health chip upgrades for just a couple of bucks extra
>A year after I paid full price for the base game and health chip upgrades direct from them, and still don't have the expansion
Motherfuckers, arrrrrrgh
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>>97058001
yea it's pretty disappointing lmao they did a stream to announce that and everything
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>>97058595
What's with the stupid theme.....
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>>97046169
Well I've played Ark Nova over 700 times, and there are definitely moves you can make that fuck the opponent so badly they will lose the game as a result, but you do have to make an effort for them. But this is only true of 2P, 3P+ is just a random fuckfest. I mean I think your post is overall accurate to euros, it's just also accurate to AN.
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>>97058595
Guten Tag! I kneel to „Boop“. Well done!
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>>97058608
It's just a Christmas theme? Are you some kind of reddit atheist or whatever?
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>>97058608
It's like the facets of a diamond. A different setting allows for new aspects of perfection to be seen.
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>>97058595
I hate boop so much it's unreal, and I don't even fully know why
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>>97058595
BOOP GODS STAY WINNING
THINKY GAMES FOR CLEVER CATS REIGN SUPREME
DUMB DOGS CAN FUCK OFF
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>>97058710
based boopchad
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>>97058653
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>>97058710
Will be pnp'ing this with a non toddler theme
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>>97039335
Played games this week:
- Inca Treasure (boring)
- When I dream (fun)
- Insider (amazing)
- Colt Express (meh)
- Virus! Halloween (fun)
- Torres (GOAT)
- The mind (meh)
- Imhotep (GOAT)
- Tiny towns (mediocre)
- Metro (meh)
- Mesos (amazing)
- Puerto Rico (fun)
- The voyages of Marco Polo (GOAT)
- Fórmula D (mediocre)
- Flip 7 (boring)
- Everdell (amazing)
- Heat (GOAT)
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>>97059109
>Inca Treasure (boring)
Wrong
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>>97059109
>4 greatest of all time games in one week
Sounds pretty good tbqh

Looking into marco polo.myself, but it seems I'm just not that much into dice placement games
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>>97057682
As an online store? I've ordered from there and they shipped quick with no issues. They have pretty good prices on lots of stuff about the same price as Amazon or a little less. I have a buddy that moved to Phoenix for work and he plays Magic at their brick and mortar location - said it's huge with about 100-200 people playing every night.
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>>97058653
its just tictactoe with push mechanics, there's not enough game to even hate
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>>97059292
I get what you are saying, It wasn't my first time playing Torres nor Imhotep.

Marco Polo is perfection, but i suggest you to go straight to the sequel. I've been told it's even better than the original.
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>>97059292
Reminder that the publisher stopped selling the Marco Polo games because one of the designers called black citizens "Africans" and apparently that's super controversial in Europe.
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>>97059531
every game can be described as "just x with y".
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>>97059826
I think it was negro or something in italian that sounded too similar to nigger, which of course made every mentally ill anglo lose their shit online

Don't know if that was the reason Marco Polo isn't getting reprinted though
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>>97059838
not even close
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>>97059886
>I think it was negro or something in italian that sounded too similar to nigger, which of course made every mentally ill anglo lose their shit online
That makes sense. Crayola gets complaints all the time because their products are multilingual and the black crayon has a Spanish bit that says "negro" (literally "black", as in the color).
>Don't know if that was the reason Marco Polo isn't getting reprinted though
Yes, that was actually the reason. It's the top thread in the original game's forum. This was after his public apology was deemed insufficient. "We will not further publish the Marco Polo series and cancel all current orders from our partners". Peak wokeness moment.
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>>97059972
you're just a fag with an attitude
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>NEW THREAD
>>97060702
>NEW THREAD
>>97060702
>NEW THREAD
>>97060702
>NEW THREAD
>>97060702
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>>97058653
>I hate boop so much it's unreal, and I don't even fully know why
*I hate boop. so much it's unreal, and I don't even fully know why



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