Cogfort Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97038589 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Assuming they're real, how are (you) feeling about the cities of sigmar rumours?
>TQAs long as cities aren’t getting faction terrain I’m fine I guess? Boards small as fuck for it though, so it better offer some kind of alternate play condition. Also I hope the named characters have some dual build customization
Let's see>jorvanSounds cool>erasmusKinda let down he's not tzeentch. Chimera ia interesting though >arch knightsHyped>grenadiersHyped>battle magesDepends very much on the execution, the ones we've seen so far like in cursed city have been hit or miss>cogfortIntrigued, the silhouette looked very much not like what I was expecting>gate gargantsSound very cool, what we saw in the blurry image was promisingWouldve liked some dorfs and more ogres but overall looking positive for this wave
If I played helsmiths of hashut I'd rather use clanrats than hobgrots. Nothing wrong with them using skaven as slave chaff instead of hobgrots.
>>97045738>>Thread question:I believe them, it's way too much stuff and it all sounds way too good, but I believe them. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't some drastic reply to a lukewarm launch of the first wave, with gw playing all their cards at once and bringing stuff to 11.
>>97045775>Erasmus Huh?Were battlemages confirmed? It sounded like a RoR with the existing kit before
>>97045775All this is BS until we see actual pictures not blurry bullshit anyone can make in Adobe
>>97045780chaos dwarfs have always despised skaven because as slaves, they're frail at best and a total liability at worst
>>97045787Yeah, just because Boole was right with Warhammer Quest and Nurgle doesn't mean he's right with CoS and Ogors Really? Cope faggot
>>97045796To be fair this wasn’t Boole.
>>97045784We got rumors of 3 generic mages (bright, amethyst, light) AND of a special character mage from settler's gain, riding atop a chimera, with another anti-elf sentiment, towards lumineth this time.
>>97045738>TQI only care about the foot knights, wizard and giants, the rest is irrelevant to me.God i hope the foot knights are good because i fucking loath steelhelms and not having a good alternative in the army is what prevented me from starting it.
>>97045780Skaven make poor slaves to everyone including other Skaven. Also Helsmiths despise the Skaven and prefer stability.
>>97045796This is another new guy called Restoration or something starting with R
>>97045780Ok I think we are missing the point here, who wants to run 80 hobgrots in their mystical sumerian army?
>>97045829Me but only the kruleboyz version.
>>97045802Boole detailed CoS, Ogors, and posted Ogor pics like Reformation >>97045775 is mostly Boole
>>97045738>TQCogforts are a great idea for a book, not so great an idea for a playable unit in AoS. It will be hard to balance having it big enough to really sell the idea of a moble fort, and small enough that it's not unreasonable to move on the board, and not over or undertuned in it's rules to feel fun while playing. It's certainly possible, but I think they would have been better off making davinci tanks or something smaller.
>>97045880>aos will soon have the 40k knight dilemma I really hope they introduce facing mechanics at least with it
>>97045829they wear funny phrygian caps and look nefarious. works for me
>>97045738Gay
>>97045829I dunno about 80, but a high chaff army of slaves holding offf the enemy while your 3 DPP artillery sits in the back blasting the enemy makes sense to me.
>>97045903Hi Gay, i'm Dad
I’m guessing lahmians are being expanded on next edition? Unless ulgu gets focused on I don’t see manfred ever being relevant, and vyrkos and avengori are both likely stuck in the cuck chair.
>witch aelf unit trained to fight using heavy weapons instead of butterknivesI'd like to see it.
>>97046051You got dozen ktis this edition, next edition you get necromancer refresh if you're lucky
Soon.
>>97046065>same bitch >different toollame
>>97046071They already got that with the sub
>>97046051I don't follow. Why would a shift of focus to Ulgu be a prerequisite for Mannfred getting spotlight on him? Why expect more Legion of Blood stuff specifically, and no less after dynasty subfactions have become defunct and replaced by battle formations? How are other non-vampire sections of the army ruled out from expansion?
>>97046090>Why would a shift of focus to Ulgu be a prerequisite for Mannfred getting spotlight on him?Last I checked that’s where’s stuck in. >Why expect more Legion of Blood stuff specifically, and no less after dynasty subfactions have become defunct and replaced by battle formations?The shitty army of renown, the cado books/models, the last hero they got? >How are other non-vampire sections of the army ruled out from expansion?I don’t see them a mixed bloodline release, as much as I’d want that. Avengori is probably stuck in a creative hole. Kastelai is also pretty much finished. Vyrkos needs what it literally lost from cursed city and maybe monstrous infantry.
Embergard was dull. Spitewood is literally just the Gnarlwood rebranded. Warbands are reiterating the same old motifs instead of exploring new niches and angles. Card art is sorely missed. Even the loss of longboarding stings.When will Underworlds become fun again?
>>97046085Comemorative models don't count
Maybe GW should mine Warhammer Adventures: Realm Quest for Black Library characters to be adapted into celebratory miniatures. I nominate the undead sorceress Ashnakh and the vampire knight known as Bloodspeed.
>>97045862Oh please post these, I'm sure, very clear ogre pics.
Big week for AoS.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xxrvgot1/sunday-preview-prepare-to-enter-the-jade-abbey-in-warhammer-quest-darkwater/
>>97046197I only need to paint the Heroes, and I'm ready to play WQ: Shadows over Hammerhal
>>97046222So full Nurgle release in December or January then?wonder what the MESBG reveal will be
>>97046222Wasn’t expecting the path to glory rules, looking forward to seeing the reviews for that.
>>97046222>This 90-page narrative expansion for Warhammer Age of Sigmar contains a new battlepack, Blighted Wilds, with rules for playing a campaign with unique abilities, rewards, battle scars, battleplans, two Paths for heroes, two Paths for units, universal enhancements, plus spell and prayer lores.>There are also rules for building your own Landmark of Ghyran, a powerful faction terrain piece with abilities of your choosing, and creating your own Regiment of Ghyran, a personalised, custom Regiment of Renown that you can give a variety of upgrades and idiosyncrasies. Finally, there are 12 narrative battleplans in the book, and a battleplan map so you can link them together as you play through a campaign to befoul or purify Thyria. I thought we'd be waiting longer for this. Anyway, hopefully they'll cover some of the crunch in there this coming week.
>>97046197>>97046227Lovely dudes as always. Also, since you seem to have worked on damn near all Chaos mortals out there: which army's models did you enjoy building and/or painting the most, and why? Were Kairics or Blightkings more fun to get done? You appear to have broad experience here.
>>97046222>A quick start guide sheet gets you to the table in minutes so you can easily show the game to friends and family, and a 36-page rulebook teaches you how to play and introduces both skirmish and campaign modes. Warhammer Quest: Darkwater is a range item, and if it sells out you can expect it to return to shelves.The last part is good to know. There's no rush to grab a box before scalpers clean out stock.
>>97046222so darkwater on preoder the 29th like we were expecting, pretty nice. Also alternate angle on the kurnothi, looks pretty cool. He's grown on me, I have a soft spot for freakshit.
Please let Grotmas 2025 deliver a Lethisian AoR with Deathrattle warscrolls playable in CoS.
>>97046255Thanks!I think painting Blightking was more relaxing. You can't really make mistakes with Nurgle.But on the other hand I really liked how fast I was able to paint Kairic for how many and how effective they look at the end.Just good not overdesigned minis.The one I enjoyed the least are probably Bloodreavers. They were fast but a few details interrupted my flow, for a variety of reasons, and I don't like when that happens.Of course having a Hedonite and StD armies as my main, I can definitely say Hedonites are a nightmare.I have painted about 10k points of Hedonites I believe, I have no idea how I am still sane.
>>97046285I think it's amusing that Bren's ghost granny and the water lady may very well have been acquaintances before the abbey fell. So Bren isn't just being helicoptered by her granny, her granny got backup.
>>97046222> Big week> It's fucking Warhammer QuestYawn
i wish AoS got a game like shadow of war but instead of orks you have the different warcry bands. Any other AoS vidya ideas?
>>97046231Isn't there a christmas reveal too? That little present skit they put out?Anyway I seem to remember gw being pretty light in december usually, and last big nurgle release was early january 2018 or so. They might aim for a similar release.Now I'm wondering what the rest of 2026 looks like in terms of releases. We have like 3 more big waves to look forward to (cos, slayers, ogres), and of course some small to mid size releases (obr for example). With summer being all about 40kek that's a lot to fit into the year, considering summer 2027 is going to have 5th already. They really need to do 4 year cycles man.
>>97046335It's practically the launch of nurgle.If it's not big, then it's bog.
>>97045897>>97046046Eh, maybe it's just me who hates hobgrots that much.
>>97046231>wonder what the MESBG reveal will beProbably something random, I think they've covered every possible model from the animated movie at this point.
>hmm maybe I'll grab the uniforms and heraldry book for skaven for ideas >every listing is 150+ dollarsback to PDFs for me
>>97046415I think everything from the reveal show will be done by February or March at the latest, since that's what the presenters said the second Wave of Cathay would be released.
any info if the the minis in the darkwater box will be colored plastic?
>>97046413>Any other AoS vidya ideas?Yeah sure here goes. Create a 3-dimensional arena where players are given control of a small number of units with different strengths and weaknesses, which they are then to use to complete specific objectives within a set number of turns while being pitted against other players and NPC mobs.Basically just make Warcry.
>>97046482Heroes and enemies will be colored slightly different shades of grey so they can easily be told apart even if unpainted.
>>97046506okay, at least something. thanks. Was hoping that they would release the box 1-2 weeks sooner to paint a few minis up for christmas.
>>97046498Realistically AoS is mainstream poison that no big dev will risk at this point when Fantasy and especially 40k are proven successful mainstream settings while AoS just doesn’t have normie appeal.
>>97046413Hexen/heretic style Boomer Shooter
>>97046285They look a lot better as a bunch
What would you add to Darkoath to make them...better?part of me feel like there is something there to make they cool like i quite like the Darkoath savagers and the Chieftain of horse but i feel like they're missing more than just another Cimmerian/DnD barbarian
>>97046173Why are they all white?
>>97046615I think they are cool enough. Conan barbarians are cool. You have TOW alternative sculpts if you don't like them.
>>97046413Plenty, but I kind of hope they never come to be (or never get popular) so we don't have to deal with the wave of nomodels tertiaries the World That Was does.>>97046603King shit.
>>97046615Just bring back Untamed Beasts alongside a Pack master unit, Javelins, and a Chieftain
>>97046723give the darkoath their own book with the chaos warcry bands.
>>97046615Double down on the pseudo-ice age shitSabretooths, mammoths, terrorbirdsMore conans and xena/red sonja's, less awkward mohawk tweens + fat womenJust redo the basic marauder kit, horses and savagers can stay.They're in a little bit of tough spot conceptually though, they can be chaos warrior chaff or their own thing, but being both is kind of hard to pull off.
>>97046180newfag they're no clearer so you'll still be crying
>>97046615Crunchwise I'd like a priest and a prayer lore. It'd be easy to recycle the Idolator prayers. Problem with that is that the whole deal with Darkoath is that they don't really do praying and priest shit, they're transactional rather than devout. It's not exactly fluffy.I guess there's the option of giving them a more elite unit than the generic marauders, but then that would beg the question, "Why isn't this some kind of Chaos Warrior instead?" And I'm not sure I'd be able to provide a good answer for that.
>>97046615Conventional attractiveness
>>97046744They'd still need a pity hero or unit for each warband. May as well keep it manageable with just Untamed Beasts and Iron Golems (artillery, chosen, dwarf hero, Ogors)
Which picture was of the Cogfort? Were there any pictures of the two named special heroes?
>>97046769Jorvan's Jaguar was pretty clear but everything else is a mess
>>97046615the old warcry bands backthe old warshrine backthe tow marauders as welland also the warhounds backand a chaos mammoth and lesser wilderfiends with a build option to make them even more mutated like spawnsthen a unit of archers, these could be chaos centaurs too
>>97046615Some kind of beastmaster and a scout unit sorta like the wildercorps but less boring to look at.
>>97046799Just go play TOW at this point as you clearly want TOW.
>>97046769I don't think he showrd the characters aside from the big catI think picrel was supposed to be the cogfort?And then two mitrailette looking guns that were either the cogfort or on the back of the gargants
So we've had rumors and leaks for basically everyone but what about Tzeentch? What is he getting this edition?
>>97046864Squatted Tzaangors go to 40k, Daemons to TOW, and the mortals are gone
>>97046846I have no idea what I'm looking at. Is that a walker of some kind? With a tower?
>>97046846Is that a Clone Wars walker rip off?
>>97046891Boss baby?!
>>97046838I want both ranges keeping their crossing over where relevant, chaos is where it's most relevant, the strength of darkoath as a concept is showing the widespread reach of chaos with all its cults, the warshrines aren't even used in tow and would fit perfectly around the concept of numerous tribes and clans joining for war but all vying for the attention of the gods, and the mammoth fits the steppe horde, is too mundane for chaos warriors proper, and would be a mirror to the sigmarites' cogfortif you have some alternative to it like a gigantic rhino, I'd be fine with it as well
>>97046875yes
>>97046864He didn't give much for Tzeentch only that they're getting terrain in the form of a giant silver tower
Yesterday I decided to start a Cities of Sigmar army and after I slept on it I am very happy with my decision. There is one problem however...What city do I go for? Any recommendations?
>>97046969Greywater
>>97046864We've got leaks for everyone, including tzeentch, except lizardmen.The plan will provide for us nonetheless, I'm sure of it.
>>97045817I proxy Grand Cathay for my cities force due to my diastase for the steelhelms and cav. Most of the models are 1 to 1 in basic design too.
>>97046969Considering they're deleting most of them, Hammerhal
>>97046993>Considering they're deleting most of them?I though they were just exterminating non humans.
>>97046765>Why isn't this some kind of Chaos Warrior instead?How about a unit of the absolute least of lesser daemons (e.g. furies and other imps) that specifically seek to tempt regular mortals, not Chaos warriors, who haven't already fallen in with any of the major powers. The kind of lowly creatures that someone who earned his plate armor wouldn't consider bargaining with in the first place.
>>97046969>greywater: bitching scheme, focus on machines and gunpowder, so they're great, plus anti-elves (trees) sentiments >anvilgard resistance: passionate history and city explored in the rpg, incoming special character reinforcing the anti-elves (shadow) sentiment >settler's gain: the incoming character sounds dope and probably makes an army of wizards and arcane machines viable, plus anti-elves (light) sentiment>lethis: cool scheme and great theme and fluff, with some history behind, shyish is one of the best realms, and it also might or might not have some anti-elf (fishe) sentiments, idk
>>97047005there are rumors that some cities might fall, the big ones that act as capitals for each realm are definitely staying though>aqshy: hammerhal>ghyran: also hammerhal>shyish: lethis>ghur: excelsis>chamon: vindicarum>hysh: settler's gain>ulgu: misthavn
>>97047049How extremely retarded and gay. Was this Kelly's idea? If so then I'm glad he's gone now.
>>97046615I say lean more into the Hyborian & Slaine look and monsters >An antler Shaman witch like one in brand>pseudo-giant men with Elphant heads>Werewolf berserkers>Ground Drakes >Ape men>Fomorid champion
>>97047021>anvilgardisn't that one gone?
>>97047021Why is everyone anti elves?
>>97047005The only rumor confirmed on is Tempest Eye but there might be morelike Greywater & Living City might survive in Ghyran thoalso apparently the elves and dwarfs are still going to be in the 4e tome for COS some reason per the leaker
>>97047106Have you missed the Newborn Twins plotline?
>>97047066No clue, if I had to hazard a guess it's to "correct" the imbalance of cities that are way more numerous in aqshy and ghyran due to the first edition, and to get rid of the places that have overt connections to microfactions that have been squatted or that aren't going to be focused on, in relation to cities.For example phoenicium was destroyed in the last set of campaigns, and tempest's eye (swifthawk agents central) has been under siege by skaven for years now, and further back they got rid of anvilgard already.In terms of "redundant" cities in ghyran we're left with greywater, living city and the newly founded verdigris, and there's arguably already storylines open for the sylvaneth's uprising, and/or abraxia's rampage, getting rid of them, abraxia in particular I think was sighted going for greywater and verdigris was her original target before she had to divert to phoenicium.Fingers crossed on greywater becoming a cogfort-based subfaction though, even if the city itself gets destroyed.In aqshy then there's what'sitsname the city built on a chaos wellspring with wild spells that roam around, and nobody really ever cared about that one.
>>97047106Maybe the genocide of Anvilgard?
>>97047106Why aren't you?
>>97047106Idk something about the Grand Alliances being a mistake and all attempts to alloy microfactions from Firestorm onward into a multiracial coalition of peoples united by shared interests and ideals being too noblebright for Warhammer Age of Sigmar "as it should have been from the start."
>>97047139>nobody really ever cared about that one.Hallowheart had some mild popularity in the tournament scene for waac reasons.
>>97047171grand alliances aren't a mistake, it's just elves being in order that's a mistake, elves go in their own containment
>>97047113Yes, I'm new.>>97047143Was it Morathi?>>97047108What's going to happen to them and why?>>97047150Why should I?>>97047171CoS does seem more "grimdark" than some other factions in terms of models so I guess that makes sense.
>>97047208>grand alliances aren't a mistakeI must assume GW disagrees or else I'd still be able to build a CoS army that was 25% stormcast and an additional 25% sylvaneth.
>>97047224that's a problem with gw being too retarded for having coalition rules, more than grand alliances being wrong.ideally some coalition rules would cross through grand alliance borders.
Should I try fitting more bull centaurs and artillery in here?
One sad thing I just recalled is during Broken Realms when anons speculated that the Anvilgard allegiance would be replaced with Har Kuron and let them run 1/4 DoK units in their army per the usual rules.
>>97046864Tzaangor Prime
>>97046838NTG but I actually am using my Warcry models for TOW maraudersEven my Horns of Hashut are being run as marauder allies for chorfs
>>97047270Cool. Does he do melee to contrast against the shaman? I hope so.
>>97047268why do you think har kuron is still a city of sigmar with a standing army of humans?
>>97047219For Tempest Eye?They have a now 3 edition old plot line about skaven advancing to the point that the mountain districts of the city has been lost to the rats and Skaven war blimps are currently bombing the flying floating city districts
>>97047262Consensus is that you should have 1 unit of 6 and 1-2 units of 3 since 6 in most cases are over kill but you still need one unit so it can delete anything. You can drop one unit of Blunderbusses.
>>97047270could be coolif armoured
>>97047286Fuck these guys are so cool
>>97047292Those are literally just random Berlin rats.
>>97046982Did I miss the ironjawz leaks?
>>97047337They leaked one year ago, bud.
>>97047337
>>97046413Shadow of mordor/asscreed game where you're a shadow aelf infiltrating the eightpoints to disrupt and dismantle chaos encampments. If the nemesis system was liberated, do that.
>>97047410This but you're a Skaven Assassin instead.
>>97047454this but you are playing an entire chaos tribe instead.
Could a Coalesced Skink join a City's army, fighting chaos and relieving human males?
>>97047474that's a skaven
>>97047337Factions without a battletome that isAlthough skaven have extra rumours because they're extra special boys
>>97047474Ye-Yeah
>>97047466and you switch them out like in GTA5 and the rest go live their lives while you don't control them
the rumor/leaks right nowCOS>Marshal Jorvan with panther>Freeguild gallant knights>Freeguild Grenadiers with musket and poleaxe>Warpriest with a pole hammer >Erasumu Zonn a mage on chimera >light mage>Fire mage>Death mage>Freeguild gargant manned by knights with heavy cannon>Cogfort (available for all 4 grand alliance) come with super canon, flamethrower or heavy gatling gun>Faction terrain>Elf and dwarf still available in tome>Lore: Jorvan vs Skaven>Lore: COS (Zonn) vs LuminethDaughter of Khaine>Lore: Kerthusa bend knee to Mortathi>Idoneth # models with the new model be dual build between morathi or Kerthusa sideTzeentch>Silver tower faction terrainLumineth>Hoeth (no explanation)
>>97046413Dungeon crawler like labyrinth of refrain or the classic smt games (with the press turn system from Iva) set in the all points.
>>97047493>>idoneth # models with the new model be dual build between morsthi or kerthusa side>>Idoneth # modelsHuh? As in idoneth number of models (1 named character, 1 dual build generic kit)?
>>97046992>I proxy Grand Cathay for my cities force Yeah i was thinking of doing that too but the lack of guns and peasants prevented that, but now that hmthey got those its a good option. I will wait how the new stuff looks and if its shit i get cathay stuff.
>>97047493>>Lore: Kerthusa bend knee to MortathiFuck you james
>>97047493>Kerthusa bend knee to MortathiI swear this game's fluff went to shit so fast since 2nd edition ended
>>97047409Put the soul filter over it
>>97047493Ogres>Daughter of Glob on a big monster>Female Maneater warmaster with a canon arm>Butcher shaman of the great maw (warmachine)>New Hunter (like the space wolves hunter but with frost sabers)>New Mournfangs>New Butcher>New Tyran>New Ogor Gluttons>New Iron guts>Icebrow Hunter, Frost Sabres, Firebelly, Icefall Yhetees, Leadbelchers, Great Mawpot ,Tyrant(2019) & gnoblars are gone>New Maneaters in the far future>Lore: Great Maw is back hauled from the void and religion reformation pushing that leadbelchers, city ogres and maneaters are heresy>Lore: Beastclaw don't careSkaven>Crixxit >New Night runner>New Gutter runnerSons of Behmat>Gargant MatriarchSylvaneth>A hero call the Grove GuardianSlaanesh>A single hero for the Blissbard Archer>Pestilens in the far future
>>97047493>>Cogfort (available for all 4 grand alliance) come with super canon, flamethrower or heavy gatling gunNo idea how are they going to pull this off. I assume RoR but still. Who will be manning it for Chaos or Destruction? I assume it's going to be a CoS focus so it's gonna be manned by city humans by default.
>>97047531yes sorry for the weird way i mention but they get the same amount of models as the idoneth this edition
>>97047554That's about the time when Phil Kelly took the reins as the creative lead. Just saying.
>>97047578>leadbelchers, city ogres and maneaters are heresyCoS Leadbealchers I could get behind
>>97047493>Remove any interesting lore between Morathi and Kerthusa>Everyone bows to MorathiYeah that tracks
>>97047493>>Freeguild gargantS manned by knights with heavy cannonplural
>>97047582Iirc there's mentions of skaven and/or kb steaking a cogfort in the fluff somewhere
>>97047610I'm hoping it's a misreading or just plain bullshit.
>>97047578>>Lore: Great Maw is back hauled from the void and religion reformation pushing that leadbelchers, city ogres and maneaters are heresyI imagine they are doing this to prepare for Ogors going back to TOW? That way AoS will have it's own differentiated " caveman " ogors while TOW gets the classic fantasy ogres?
>>97047582destruction already has fluff about kruleboys stealing and manning some forts as for chaos I'd put legionnaires up there
>>97047622Ogres aren’t coming back to tow. That’s a middle ground concept that will be forgotten. You’ll get Cathayan mountain allies instead.
>>97047622there's no "caveman" ogres, they're just not going to have stolen cannons as leadbelchers, that's it
>>97046433You can guarantee it'll be something with a ™.
>>97047615I get that It just sounds weird when clearly the Cogfort CAN'T have all the bits needed for a Chaos or Destruction Cogfort as it's a human CoS focus unit. The leaker said it's even bigger than a Gargant so it's going to be ridiculously expensive as it is.Unless they plan to sell upgrade sprues separately or something. Otherwise people will be forced to do heavy kitbashes which is not something GW wants as the markets is going to be flooded with resin printed Cogfort upgrades.
>>97047622Seems like the logical thing to do, then again vampires went heavy into the eastern vyrkos stuff instead of classic western gothic and are also still legacy despite being like a top 5 tow faction in terms of popularity.
>>97047622>>97047647Yes, most likely this is why. They don't want any major overlap in the ranges. But at the same time, I can't see it happening soon considering TOW has the massive Chaos refresh coming and then Kislev.
>>97047578Fyreslayer or well not any more>Fyreslayer tome is being soup into a new tome call Khazalid holds >Fyreslayer + nu-Mountain dwarfs>Auric Runefather, Auric Runeson, Auric Runesmiter, Battlesmith, Auric Flamekeeper, Grimhold Exile, Auric Runefather on Magmadroth, Auric Runeson on Magmadroth, Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth, Hearthguards, Vulkyn Flameseeker are all the fyerslayer that survive >12 kits more Classic dawii than fyreslayer>New Golem>New Magmadroths>Gotrek will be in this faction>New Dwarf Demigod who like Thorgrim>Last tome of the edition>Lore: the dwarven gods Grungni, Valya, Gazul and Thorgrim will unite the dispossessed and fyreslayersOssiarch>new Arkhan the black>Ossiarch chariot>Ossiarch version of 40k Ruststalker>Ossiarch version of Ubsati archers (with three eyes)General things i don't know where to put it>Malerion is coming soon with the Ulgurothi>Morai-heg, Kurnous, Hoeth, Asuryan and Khaine are all back
>>97047586Nick Kyme is the creative lead now
Are all GW employees required to be imperiumfags?Why are they turning cos into the imperium but fantasy-themed?
>>97047655>TOW has the massive Chaos refreshIt's not going to be massive.
>>97047656>Khaine are all backHow when Morathi became Khaine. Is she getting downgraded to be under Malerion again? I wouldn't be surprised as DoK are as popular as Kruleboyz.
>>97047675How is it the imperium? It's based on central europe and hussites. Are you from the US or something? That would explain it.
>>9704767540k sale bigMake aos like 40kAos sale bigWinrar
>>97047493>>97047578>>97047656This makes me so fucking sad. Idoneth got fucked so hard it's just sad.
>>97047706Not counting character Cathay received more kits in the last 8 months than IDK have in their entire lifespan. It's a forgotten faction like FS. They should either squat them or give them proper support. This fence sitting maintenance mode is dumb.
>>97047586>umm actually the female character who committed warcrimes did no wrong and humanity is lead by a black woman who invented defensive positioning
>>97047706I'll just keep with what I've been repeating to myself since I joined the hobby."Maybe next edition."
>>97047715You have dumb logical pathways
>>97047675>Are all GW employees required to be imperiumfags?Imperiumfags are the only ones retarded enought to make warhammer their job
>>97047675>Are all GW employees required to be imperiumfags?Most of 40kfags are Imperiumfags.
>>97047692I'm going to give gw the benefit of the doubt and pretend it's new characters carrying the torch / taking on the mantle of the old godsDid anybody ever give a shit about fucking hoeth for his return really to be a "woah it's Hoeth from Warhammer Fantasy Battles™!" moment? the pessimist in me says it's going to be exactly that though
>>97047692Morathi never absorb the heart to become a god it was stealing the divinity of the phoenix king that didso she still has the iron heart in her possession she just lying about the Khaine reborn part
>>97047728Squat them or give them proper support. Otherwise they are just taking up valuable shelf space that could be dedicated to factions that they intend to support. New players come into the game, do their research, and then know not to touch FS or IDK because GW clearly doesn't plan on doing anything with them past the bare minimum maintenance and pity hero that will stay around for 2 editions before being removed. It's a waste of retail real estate and design space for the setting.
>>97047729Making something you love and are passionate about your job is the dream. You are clearly underage and you just unable to understand it (yet).
>>9704767540k probably makes up 90% of GW's profits. They make more in licensing 40k for multimedia than they do with AoS period. AoS will be tailored to fantasy 40k because that's what makes money, presumably
>>97047736>all or nothing Retard
>>97047698>Elves and dwarves get phased out and placed in other armies>Human faction that doesn't like working with other races (unless they can use you as a mount)>most policies are made by the human-dominated entities located in Azyr (just like 40k terra)It went from an army that represented the common inhabitants of the mortal realms fighting side by side to an army about humans fighting against outside threats
They took city Aelves from you to sell 40k fatties Imperial Guard with their Ogryns
>>97047732>>97047733Malerion and Tyrion are probably working to awaken old elven gods and then Malerion will make Morathi submit (again) and Dark Elves will get souped up with factions like in Orruk Warclans. Malerion, Morathi and Krethusa, then they might as well add Idoneth as the 4th soup.Damn I might be a genius.
>>97047757They took city aelves out because fantasy came back. Simple as.
>>97047755>army about humans fighting against outside threats
>>97047743They are passionate about 40k but got shafted to the AoS department
The elves are still sticking around in the battletome albiet
>>97047743No making the thing you're passionate about your job is the quickest way to make yourself hate the shit because now you're obligated to force yourself into it even when you don't feel like it because doing it 9-5 keeps your lights on
>>97047656Oh don't know if anyone really cares but here the other rumor for the other games40k>Yarrik in Armageddon>Perturabo and the Iron warrior codex coming out the eye of terror>Prince Yriel and the corsairs in the malestromTOW>Warrior of Chaos refresh with Chaos warriors, Chaos chosen, chaos knights>Kislev coming>
>>97047578>take gutbuster but remove everything interesting like gunpowder weapons, firebelly cult and gnoblars >but here strong independent woman character Beastclaw raiders are the only saving grace of this piece of shit faction called mawtribes and they never should've brought back gutbuster.
>>97047760TOW and WHF didn't have city elves, AoS is now more like WHF if anything
>>97047656>new Arkhan the blackPlease no. Let that loser be dead
>>97047757>>97047767They'll probably go the Tau empire route. Majority are humans with elven and dwarven auxiliary units.
>>97047770You can't make faggots understand this, they were spaming this shit after 3e CoS which ADDED races without removing any, but simple math is too hard for them
>>97047778No, duardin are already gone. They'll be Astra Militarum with auxiliary Ogors and Giants
>>97047772I wish TOW wasn't dead. Maybe I could try Kislev if my city had more than 2 players.
>>97047775>TOW and WHF didn't have city elvesAre you joking? There's always been absolute tons of elves and dwarfs in Imperial cities in Fantasy lore. Not in that they made up like lets say 20% of the population but larger cities had foreign quarters that were full of elf/dwarf traders/merchants/craftsmen/mercs/adventurers etc.
>>97047783I'm saying that they might MAKE some new units for elves and dwarves from the city.
>>97047790Dont forget that even high elves had a port town in lothern that allowed foreign traders in
I'm fine with human supremacy. Fuck elves, kill dwarves.
>>97047783They leaks say they aren't thoughever. Have you tried reading?
>>97047790>>97047795Not just Imperial and High Elf cities. In Fantasy there is cultural osmosis between many factions. In TOW recently even Cathay had descriptions of Fu Chow being a trade city and how it was bristling with elves and dwarfs.
>>970477793e removed cross racial synergy entirely. 4e added it back somewhat because everything is barebones and battle traits, spells, have to be restricted to 3. There's some SoG Human synergy with other races. 4e removed faction keywords but it's still all racially locked. The Hurricanum only buffs Humans, the Cogsmith only Gyrocopters. The Sorceress can sacrifice any Aelf but that solidified Delfs rather than CoS and of course the warscrolls remain specific to the original character of factions rather than generic archetypes
>>97047790Gilead has one attempted pogrom per book, but I'll give you Imperial Dwarfs. Still, that's more against AoS
>>97047791>they might make some units for elves and dwarvesGiven the narrative that CoS is going through, i doubt that
>>97047772>Iron warrior codexexcuse me what
>>97047790Kinda, but "city elves" weren't really a part a faction, they were just living there, often temporarily. Pretty sure that back in early editions of WFRPG they were called "sea elves," because they were sailors and merchants that came from the sea.
>>97047803The leaks say Dispossessed are joining Fyreslayers. You are illiterate.
>>97047805>In TOW recently even Cathay had descriptions of Fu Chow being a trade city and how it was bristling with elves and dwarfs.Dont forget that the recent short story had toger man under Zhao Ming which means they probably run around in wester cathay too and the crowman, dont forget the monkey people and ogres.Man cathay is kinda rad ngl.
>>97047815yep Perterabo is the next primarch coming back
>>9704781540k needs more Space Marines variants.
>>97047813>Given the narrative that CoS is going throughWhat narrative exactly? They are doing elven and duardin pogroms or something?
>>97047818nta, but no. Leaks have confirmed that Fyreslayers are getting "new" classic dwarf models, and also that the upcoming 4E battletome will still have all the dispossessed units. These are two different things.
>>97047835anons hear what they want to hear (and they can't read)
>>97047832Cities are being destroyed Sylvaneth are attacking their allies A named character hates Aelves Khanite civil war is apparently ending with consolidation for Morathi, so no accountability for the six million Anvilgardians
>>97047826The crowmen are super cute/cool. They are working for the dragon emperors wife right?
>>97047835So they'll include TOW models in the new CoS battletome? No leaker has stated Dispossessed are staying in CoS. Post one
>>97047826>Man cathay is kinda rad ngl.Shame that it has such ugly models besides the leader chick.
>>97047850>They are working for the dragon emperors wife right?Jup its not exactly clear what they do but most assume that they do espionage. There is also a theory that the moon empress is connected to tzeentch that makes the entire crowman thing even more interesting.
>>97047790Meh? I dunno what you’re looking for here. Cities has entire towns with elves and dwarves that make up core parts of some of the realms. >>97047826>Man cathay is kinda rad ngl.It’s still dogshit Jim. Token interactions don’t make it interesting and still an absolute visual disappointment from my expectations.
>>97047849>A named character hates AelvesSettler's Gain had human/elven tensions since the start because Loomies treat humans as second class citizens and they control, punish and brainwash them.The rest is as usual as well. There are more type of elves than Sylvaneth who aren't really elves and Morathi's abominations.
>>97047859why wouldn't they? duardin will be in the new battletome and no one has detailed new models so they must remain
>>97047801>fuck elvesI wholeheartedly agree. Especially the khainite ones, though it's more likely that they'll be the active subject in that activity>kill dwarvesWtf no why would I do that
>>97047860>Shame that it has such ugly models besides the leader chick.The models look fine, its what i expected from a fantasy version of china>>97047867>It’s still dogshit Jim. Token interactions don’t make it interesting and still an absolute visual disappointment from my expectations.The faction is entirely new so judging the fluff is kinda unfair when you do it against factions with a background of 40 years.
>>97047757>>97047779They still be in the book as majority of the COS is end of the edition stuff with only the cogfort and terrain be tome releaseIt a very old rumor but they did mention Swifthawks and Wanderers will come in some form so maybe a city elf auxiliary in some form
>>97047866>There is also a theory that the moon empress is connected to tzeentch that makes the entire crowman thing even more interesting.That is interesting, considering they are crows with hands I can see why people would be sussy. The model is fantastic.
>>97047876Yeah, with Morrowind thought crime floating prisons and everything. LRL basically claimed Hysh and Malerion has Ulgu so tensions with Dawnbringers is a given
>>97047882>end of edition It’s claimed to be released in 2026
>>97047887I wonder how Malerion's elves treat humans if LRL act so evil towards them and they are supposed to be the good guys.
>>97047832Cities associated with ToW elven units are getting destroyedSupposedly the dwarves knew about the existence of the hellsmiths but never told anyone because "muh ancestral shame" so city dwarves are getting blamed for thatNext human cos character is the greatest mage to ever live and because of that lumineth have tried to fuck him overAos narrative is going into grimdark shit to appeal to 40kids, which is retarded since many design decision will scare off 40k lovers
>>97047891Late 2026 is the end of the edition, anon. Mid 2027 is a new edition.
>>97047896>AoS goes 40k mudcore grimderp>fantasy revival is noblebright good guys vs bad guys classic fantasyHow the FUCK did we end up in this timeline?
>>97047896>Next human cos character is the greatest mage to ever liveI'm betting 100 human dollars that he is going to be black, bald with a small beard or goatee.
>>97047896It’s been pushing the grim dark appeal since realm gate wars ended >>97047897Pretty sure I also read it’s likely to be released before space marines get their new edition but I don’t care to double check on that.
>>97047908>Pretty sure I also read it’s likely to be released before space marines get their new edition but I don’t care to double check on that.June/July 2026 is the new edition of 40k. I hope it's before that.
>>97047894There's a Broken Realms story of Scourge Privateers saving some Humans from Har Kuron soldiers, saying just because they're Aelves it doesn't mean they support Morathi... But Harrowdeep shows they're racist in Misthaven and think nothing of killing Humans for the slightest insult (pirates though, so)
>>97047907That's right. And when they voice him in the audiobook he's going to sound like the African guy from Blood Diamond.
>>97047907>I'm betting 100 human dollars that he is going to be black, bald with a small beard or goatee.I hate that there is a 70% chance that you're right and we get that instead of classic gandalf wizard.
>>97047897We have pictures, they're tied to Spearhead's next batch It'll be June/July at the latest
>>97047924Why does AoS have to get blacked but ToW is immune? Why the double standard? Is it really just the design teams being that different?
>>97047924>classic gandalf wizard.The man is riding a fucking chimera, and Is capable of venturing past the realms edges, ignoring the rest aside why would you fucking expect that from him?
>>97047907A fat black blind woman in a combat wheelchair
>>97047907>>97047924>indian tahlia>black zenestra>hwhite jorvanHe needs to be east asian or middle eastern to complete the faction better yet, aboriginal
>>97047934TOW is dedicated to China lmao
>>97047934Someone hasn’t looked at the empire currently
>>97047945Jorvan has dreads, he's black with a jungle cat companion
>>97047942He's a hysh wizard so something like gandalf the white would fit, his mount is irrelevant.
>>97047957So they have no blacks because they have waifus? How is that supposed to make this any better?
>>97047945I actually think either of those would be pretty cool
>>97047942nta but classic wizards are cool
>>97047967Ah yes the realm that regularly makes its wizards go mad. >>97047969Someone called her farquad and it really does just stick. Hard to believe the mounted character was supposed to be a woman too.
>>97047964I am looking at the empire range on their website right now. There isn't a single black painted model displayed out of 46 kits they sell for empire.
>>97047969>These minorities are good actually Same shit, different race. AoS has blacks ruling the realms. TOW has chinks
>>97047965>Jorvan has dreadsSource?
>>97047907>we're getting Yakub Kino
>>97047978Sure, I plan on playing the life wizard dude in dark water myself, but everything surrounding the new character is pointing towards the opposite of that.
>>97047985Your rpg book bro, look no further than the cover.
>Jorvan is a random nigger instead of a Ven Brecht descendant
>>97047994He might be white if the other dude is black but one of them is definitely black. The Hysh guy could be a arabic also.
>>97047999He’s a kraken lord heir, whatever that means.
>>97047997Third party corposlop is of no interest or note. I will be worried when GW starts blacking fantasy like they do AoS. For now, we are safe. Maybe you are the sacrificial lamb and if that is the case then I genuinely am glad AoS exists to protect Fantasy from the weird race obsessed anglos.
>>97047876>LRL agree to let Sigmarites settle their land and live alongside them in jointly governed settlements organized along meritocratic principles agreed to by both parties>in fact go out of their way to massively subsidize this settlement effort to the point that settlers don't even have to do manual labor to get by, all hard toil is done by robots provided by the LRL>with all essential needs met all that's left are the intellectual pursuits by which one climbs the social hierarchy, per the social contract of the settlement's founding>instead of devoting themselves to these pursuits or simply not moving to the one place in the cosmos where there's nothing else for townsfolk to do but study, the settlers whine that intellectual labor is a time sink and too difficult for humans>also start importing migrant workers from other realms to do manual labor, not to cover any labor shortage, but simply because it makes the settlers feel better to see other people being worked to the bone and being denied their pampered lifestyle>also start organizing multiple violent riots and attempt actual deicide against the settlement's patron deity because being given the choice of voluntarily doing the same academic work as aelves is tyrannical and must be opposed by all available meansSeriously fuck the people of Settler's Gain. They're actually the literal worst.
>>97048000I have now completely lost track of what you’re trying to convey
>>97047997the new WFRP5e cover?
>>97048000GW would be jailed for including an Arab character connected to settler colonialism
Can you guys shut the fuck up about your console wars and just be happy we are getting more StD proxies. God marked Chaos Warriors are one of the kits.
second attempt at chamon-ish basingWas going to do the iron on the right more like how it would look naturally but I couldn't really get it to read as an iron vein, just looked like layers of warm brown so ended up just making it a more refined iron with pockets of oxidization can't tell if I like the result more
>>97048019SHEIT
>>97048029That's a swarthy Tilean in the employ of the Empire.
>>97048007They treat the rpgs as the setting bible bro, and you already have female bretonian knights in miniature form. It’s already encroached into its framework. Any other games tow might get will also use that rpg as reference.
>>97048022>God marked Chaos Warriors are one of the kits.Don't we basically already have this for all monogod armies save DoT and rats?
>>97048005It means he used his BBC to defeat many centuries-old elven pirates and now he is at topStart clapping or i'm calling the bobbies
>>97048018If Jorvan is actually black with dreads like the other anon said then the mage hero won't be black but white or possibly arabic. One of them will be black.
>>97048036WE FITTIN TA FITE FOR SIGMAR N SHEIT BOIS
>>97048038We've had female bret knight models since the 90's newfriend.
>>97048038>>97048046https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/the-old-world-armies-of-the-old-world-empire-of-man-sqlphttps://www.warhammer.com/en-US/AoS-Order-CitiesofSigmar-FPHere's links to both CoS and Empire from GW. You can count and compare how many black models are displayed in each range by GW. If you are lazy and don't want to count, empire has none.
People in the leak forums are saying that both new named heroes might be dual kits this time.It would make sense after that Tahlia (or whatever she is called) fuck up.
>>97048057>Peoplewho?speculations mean nothing
>>97048022They’re pivoting chaos warriors to norsca, so expect them to look like the right.>>97048048As unique characters, now they’re banner bearers on foot.
>>97048039Kind of, we have chaos warriors inspired units but no real proper marked Chaos warrior units as they exist in fantasy.
>>97048056Uh oh meltie. Also damn ven dests are cool.
>>97048069>They’re pivoting chaos warriors to norsca, so expect them to look like the right.They are not doing so, idk where that came from but Boole linked multiple chaos warrior pics as examples of what kind of stuff is coming. I am looking through the TGA thread now and will post screens once I find the post.
>>97048045>>97048043I think you both have black people on the mind too much. I thought we were talking about class archetypes not whatever this racial stuff is.
>>97048056You're not gonna like the refresh, lol.
>black character has a pet pantherHow is this not racist as shit
>>97048067I don't know who are the leakers as I don't follow them but saw some posts on TGA written with as much confidence as actual leakers further detailing the COS update.
>>97048082We already have the first kits of the refresh, they aren't hitting us, if they were they would have done so already.
>we're on the gaym screenshot stage of nomodel raidGood thing us white time zones are going to sleep, so your Brazilian asses won't bother me anymore
>>97048081With GW it's never archetypes and it's always racial stuff.
>>97048094Nice to see goofy old Chaos Warriors. Reminds me of RGW books
>>97048094That's not the Empire.Also>woman leaderyeah sure you're fine kek
>>97048046>I'm 100% estalian bro, not a drop of arabyan blood in me!Shitposting aside a middle eastern ish wizard could look pretty cool, and would fit nicely with the vague orientalism themes hysh has going on. But gw likes go mesh cultures together for aos (e.g. obr having japanese, roman, and ancient nead eastern themes) so I doubt it would be that straightforward.
>>97048070>UndividedLiterally just Chaos Warriors.>KhorneBlood Warriors are cooler.>NurgleRotswords are cooler.>TzeentchTzaangor Enlightened are cooler.>SlaaneshMyrmidesh Painbringers are cooler.
>>97048107tbf I bet she has a fat cock
>>97048077Anon the current norscan stuff that tow just got was from an abandoned project, and they went the direction they did because they want to differentiate it from Aos slaves to darkness range. They won’t even touch anything remotely godmarked, at best you’ll see transfer sheets with the animal symbols. For all we know new chaos warriors are just berserkers or that really heavy armored unit in tww for norsca.
>>97048107What Empire refresh? There's no Empire refresh coming in the future the only refreshes we know of are Chaos and Kislev (if that counts)
>>97048101>they're shitting their pants over the POSSIBILITY of a model being black this timeI fucking hate this place man
>>97048109Only new battlemage art/character we got was black with the !egypt build option too
>>97048113Ill trust Boole over your negativity thank you very much.
>>97048127This dude looks cool, thought I thought the hysh=egypt thing was a holdover from old whfb stuff
>>97048131You mean you’ll trust your imagination over the patterns that are literally in the systems face between Aos and tow and HH and 40k. All Boole poster were unit archetypes. Also negativity? What’s negative about norsca? It’s just redefining chaos warriors into something cooler right?
>>97048019Anon is referring to the cover for the Old World rpg, which features a man with dark brown skin in empire garb. Which is a bad choice in my opinion, but is probably completely unrelated to their plans for old world minis.
>>97048122told ya it's my hobby now, you won't be missed
>>97048147Hmmm should I listen to 4chan clearly TOW hater schizo or should I listen to the guy who has a proven track record of leaks? hmmmm
>>97048141Well, yeah, it's based on the Hurricanum kit options they just went with that option and made him black
>>97048162
>>97048127>>97048141Here's the dude I was thinking ofSpeaking of wizards, do we know what type the rumoured 3 battlemages are?The darkwater dude looks pretty clasically jade, so maybe the other guys are also going for a more oldhammer look, which can be quite different from the 8th edition look whfb ended up with. Wouldn't mind a cool amber wizard with a claw or some dope shit like that. Though I also appreciated tow's wizards, especially the totally-not-celestial one.
>>97048157>clearly tow hater My boy I have an army still on squares before tow killed my 6e scene which then killed itself with the 1.5 changes. I don’t get how I’m coming across as a hater, new stuff is good, just don’t expect it to go with your clearly misguided expectations.
>>97048131>>97048157If you're talking about the other leaker that Boole backed up and then later spazzed out on for posting pictures then that might have been in the AoS thread.
>>97048178Ffs forgot the actual pic lmao
>>97048178It was four, which is why every thought it just meant the current kit
>>97048173Yes this was the discount set with the repainted model for the narrative.
>>97048179ignore the lost TOW tourist
>>97048173It feels very weird to say this about WHFB holdovers in AoS, but both the wagons and the contraptions mounted on them look too fantastical and stylistically decorated for the new CoS range.
>>97048203It'll leave for TOW probably, AoS prefers potatocore over whacky renaissance alt history stuff
>>97048213Kislev soon too if that interests you (Silence is Golden is a reference to the Golden Knight, a Kislevite champion who " silences " magic users "
>>97048218Kislev CoS Vs Vyrkos SBGL
>>97048230Kislev Kislev vs VC Vyrkos too. The possibilities are almost endless.
>>97048195I just checked, it's weird because boole says 4, reformation says 3:>light>amethyst (death)>bright (fire)There's also the spearhead forge priest guy where the confusion maybe coming from, guess he'll basically be metal, though isn't he sharing that space with the existing warforger then? Especially if he's not a wizard?The light wizard being a named character and not a generic battlemage is also odd, unless they're doubling up on that for some reason.>>97048213This kit is actually already sold for tow as it also makes the war altar, though I don't think the hurricanum and luminark are used by them. Quite like the kit in all its ridiculousness, could always greenstuff some diamond motifs on it to be more CoSy. Looks like a bitch to paint though.
>>97048240The war altar shares a sprue but the other is different. It's why, ten years later, the Hurricanum lost the Karl Franz iconography (because the mould was updated for TOW)
>>97048240It’s still on a round and in the cities webpage so idk
>>97047715its not forgotten, it just recieved 2 new heroes and a manifestation. it also overall has a MUCH more complete range than fyreslayersthat said deepkin have a SERIOUS design problem. in age of sigmar, probably the 2 most important things an army can have are speed and damage. eels provide both speed and damage, and are even somewhat durable depending on the type of eel. lets say you do add a new elite akhelian foot infantry. how do you convince someone to take it? they could instead just take eels, which will undoubtedly do comparable damage but move twice as fast and fly. the same question if you were to add some beast unit like a crab handler. they have had namartii thralls for 10 years straight and have almost never convinced even a single deepkin player to run them in any significant number. even now that the 3" combat range has solved their 32mm base problem. even now that they've dropped them to 10pts per model. even now that thralls have so many different support heroesthralls as infantry can run and charge, retreat and charge, 3d6 charge, reroll run rolls and charge rolls, strike first, they can get crit auto wound, they have rend 1 attacks AND anti infantry AND anti monster AND anything they hurt has -1 to wound them back. they can get another rend from the king, they can get +1 to wound from eidolon of the storm, they can get a -1 to hit debuff, a +1 save buff, a 5+ ward, they can regen dead models, they can deepstrike at 7 inches. probably more im forgettingyou can do so much with them, and they're cheap. any other army would beg for their army toget the amount of setup and buffs and attacks thralls have access tobut still no one takes them. in an army where you can build the whole army moving at 12+ flying speed, why would you ever take thralls? and so the same question why would you ever take akhelian knights on foot? or some kind of sea crature beast unit. this is the problem deepkin will forever have.
>>97048236>endless
>>97048255Turn them into akhelian terminators and have them fucking teleport. The funnier option would be to just nerf the shit out of eels.
>>97047486Oh. Right. Yeah that makes more sense>>97047409Holy shit
>>97048268the eels can also teleport though> just nerf the shit out of eels.this is actually the only way you could do it, and it would fucking BREAK the deepkin community because 100% of their collections are based around eels and sharks
>>97048286>fixes army>forces IDK to rebuy their armiesSounds like everyone wins
>>97048213>AoS prefers potatocoreThis used to be a joke. But frankly a lot of the creative direction from 3e onward is easily parsed as responding to haters from last decade. I'm not sure how else we got started with einherjar, cloud-mining dwarfs, and flying sharks ridden by elves and have veered into "nothing is scarier than an anorectic orc with a pointy stick" and "flintlock is for suckers and a demigryphs went extinct all at once over the weekend."
>>97048297If the farmer was black on this cover it would be funnier and more accurate
>>97048297to be fair, every destruction faction is "thing hardly wearing a shirt and pants with a dangerous bit tied to a stick comes at you"like...al of them.
>>97048297Kruelboys use cross bolts that are bigger than them. Which is fucking rad as shit.>demigryphs went extinct all at once over the weekend.Sadly only stormcast have them. Which is a shame because they’re so crucial for lethis and the order of the furrow
>>97046065Give me sexy executioners
>>97048297>cloud-mining dwarfsAt least this one was all on Blanche. It just came to him when he was out on the beach. But he semi-retired in 2017 and is fully retired nowadays.
>>97046413DoK dating sim
>>97048218Oh shit the slavs are really coming I thought the Russian invasion cancelled Kislev for good.
>>97048218Do we know how soon they're coming? >>97048325Some of blanche's aos stuff is always a joy to see. Speaking of, some melee foot kharadron would be cool to see. Though I suppose that's what the vongrimm are for...
>>97048326If Dead by Daylight could get one then anything could.
>>97048325>is fully retired nowadays.can still shill paint lines when he wants to
>>97048340Big lady sexo
>>97048255>eels provide both speed and damageSpeed, yes. Damage, not really. They're extremely swingy with their unreliable bites and low number/quality rider attacks. They are very nicely wound-dense, though.The bit you wrote on thralls isn't entirely incorrect but to get all of those buffs look at the investment you have to do to get them in a state that seems good. Also we don't have deepstrike at all anymore. It's either Storm Tide 1st step teleport or Steed of Tides teleport and all the Soulscryer does is make himself a bubble for arrival. Effectively a dead warscroll because you don't want him anywhere near where his ability lets other stuff arrive. Right now the best/most effective thing you can do with thralls is make them a roadbump. Take 2 bricks of 20 thralls, Soggy Thrallmaster, Soulrender, and a Tidecaster. Isharann Council to add +1 to Casting/Ritual/Lurelight roll so you're passing Tidecaster 12" no shoot and revive thralls on up to 3 units on a 2+ instead of 3 on the dice. Give your Soulrender Lord of Storm and Sea and he's bringing back up to 4 thralls per turn. Thrallmaster gives -1 rend. But again, look at all the bullshit you have to do to make Thralls behave like Skeletons or Clanrats. When the SoG rules are gone we're gonna see Deepkin SUFFER because they can really only win on objectives/battle tactics by bringing Sharks back in advantageous positions to nab the point then die.
>>97048325So what they had exactly 1 guy who could think of fresh ideas and now he's gone?
>>97048340DBD has a strong character emphasis, giant playerbase and an appeal beyond the game itself with merchandise, side games, viewers of streamers, etc AoS has..... Umm..
>>97048378Elves. Lots of them.
>>97048369Blanche has always been far out there in his art and he directed the whole art department. He hand chose those working under him so it's not as if they wouldn't share his direction but... Look at his GSG concepts compared to how they just recycled concepts for the rabblerowsa. Blanche absolutely had nothing to do with CoS I'd bet, it looks so soulless
>>97048339>Some of blanche's aos stuff is always a joy to see.I think it's a bit of a shame that GW rarely shares its conceptual work after a product is finished. Concept art, narrative drafts, test sculpts, paint scheme tests, creative notes, etc. I'd love to see more of the work that happened before they put out the finished product. But for some reason they don't do that.
>>97048387No one gives a shit, it'll be a Vermintide or TWW dating sim
>>9704839840k is more likely to get a dating sim than anything
>>97048398Make this the main romance route for them then
>>97048393
>>97048378>AoS hasSexcow
>>97048417Oh so that's why I've felt something was off about the rabble-rowsa even though he's cool in principle, he's just half another sculpt.
>>97048393>his GSG conceptsThat's a good example. He was really trying to put a spin on what goblins could look like. So he was drawing stuff with goblins that had shrooms growing out of them, and goblins with hose-like snouts for scenting like truffle hogs, and goblins with a few extra pairs of limbs. He didn't stop at just drawing a goblin and alternate between their choice of stabbing tool, or between their riding a squig or a spider. He was fucking around with their whole silhouette by changing everything from their outfits to their morphology.This radical approach also makes a ton of sense for a game where model = unit and models across an army aren't expected to have compatible bits.
>>97046073I'm hoping to be able to pick up the heroes to incorporate into my Cursed City game. I figure the Nurgle players will want the bad guys and not the heroes so much?
>>97048297You will march endlessly.You will march on broken limbs.You will sing with your throat slit.And your bones will be ground to dust by the Great Wheel.
>>97046073>206 yurosBit pricey innit? How much was cursed city?
>>97048339Imagine if the KO actually looked like this and didn't have the retarded balloon boys dragging them down so hard
Mosscairn…soon…
>>97048025Right looks pretty good. I'm a little confused as to the one on the left, is the blue supposed to be puddles of water or oxidized metal? If it's water, a reflective glaze would help convey puddles but if it's supposed to be oxidized metal, I would instead use a more green blue color for verdegris.
>>97048110>tzangor enlightend are coolerthey're just tzangor on discs, they're not special. Some heavily armored units would be really cool to have.
why dont they just commit mass norscan genocide
>>97048328Kislev is a mix of all slav cultures including polish and ukrainian so that's how they get a pass.
>>97047969No they have no blacks because they're trying to sell to the chinese market. Literally every major entertainment company that wants the big chinese money will put out some shit that's really chinese and doesn't have anything that pisses chinese people off, aka black people. See, literally every chinese version of a movie poster, no blacks. Even fucking black panther had the mask on in the chinese poster lmao. This diversity, DEI shit only gets pushed on western markets because there isn't absolutely massive pushback like in non-western markets.
>>97048485>the Great Wheelwhat's the Great Wheel?
>>97048549I’d rather chaos warriors be something like pet handlers for tzeentch, something like that one space wolf unit with wolves but instead tzeentch demons.
New CoS looks miles better than retarded fish elves, tree elves or flying dwarves. Not to mention the abomination that is old Stormcast. The same can be said about the new Nurgle update and Soulblight.
>>97048578Religious metaphor for the present being the product of the past, and the future being the product of the present, and the hardship of life crushing everything to nothing as events, societies and people grow and fade over time, "as the wheel turns."Adherents of this religion refuse to put wheels on their carts.
>>97048536ThanksOn the left it's just some slightly watered down vallejo green rust to try and do some verdigris since it's all I have lying around that's close to that tone
>>97048598>dislikes IDK>dislikes TREES>dislikes KO>dislikes FatcastI feel like this works as a litmus test. If you can't appreciate at least one of those four then maybe you simply don't like AoS.
>>97047675Every warhammer store and LGS I've stepped foot in was run by a guy that really liked 40k and didn't really give a shit about any other game.>>97047743There's those youtubers that run a wargaming store and every single video they post is them whinging and whining about every single new thing, how AoS and TOW are going to die any day now and everything sucks. Making your passion your job is fucking terrible, don't ever do it.
>>97048640AoS has more than 4 armies and everyone dislikes fatcast.
>>97048339Non-important observation: The claw device on the top left is nearly identical to the one in the Warp Lightning Cannon kit
>>97048656>everyone dislikes fatcastNot if you believe the contrarians that exploded out of the woodwork the instant Thunderstrike dropped.
>>97048700I just think they kind of threw the baby out with the bathwater when they redesigned themThe old weapons, shields, and helmets looked better IMO
>>97048339KO needs some proper elite infantry, not just the pseudo cavalry that are the sky wardens. A unit with a heavier exoskeletonkind of like brokk grungons has but even heavier, and with something mechanical like a pilebunker for a weapon would be awesome.
>>97048712>The old weapons, shields, and helmets looked better IMO
>>97048712Absolutely not. You can't look at this shit and tell me it looks good to you. That's a fucking Temu toy.
>>97048736Well, no. I never liked any of the elite models. When I say old Stormcast I'm basically only talking about Liberators and the Knight Questor.
>>97048736I see the point with the shield and weapon, but the helmet is just atrocious. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too with the roman headdress behind the sigmar lightning headpiece, too busy, too much going on.
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>>97048255This anon is correct.To give IDK design room to be something BEYOND eel spam you have to knee cap the eels. Which will then piss off IDK players as the only people still playing are the eel spammers.
>>97048784>Which will then piss off IDK players as the only people still playing are the eel spammers.>me with my combined arms collectionAlso, shark spam is the current top strategy. Eels are #2.
>>97048775I feel like if you see this picture and don't immediately get the urge to buy one of these for too much money to play games on then you're probably an artifical human
>>97048800This one and the pirate ship were the peak of childhood toys. I was lucky my parents found both at garage sales. Missing a couple small pieces, but still overall intact.
>>97048804Holy fuck the pirate ship slapped, I forgot about that shit
>>97048775>>97048800I think this exact playset plus the little pewter cast romans and knights my parents got for me as a tiny baby were what cemented my armor and fantasy autism affliction
>>97048775I had this set when I was a kid. God I loved it.
>>97048784>>97048798People would be fine with knee capping eels and sharks if that mean more units.
>>97048736It's goddamn amazing.
>>97048810Pretty sure it was these, or some of the ones from this set at least
Where do you guys source your corks for basing from? Also for sculpting flames, between miliput and greenstuff, which is better to work with?
>>97048866I just buy it off amazon cause cork sheets are cheap as helland liquid green stuff is best for flames in my experiencehave to build it up through a lot of layers though
>>97048866I buy a big cork mat that's intended for placing plant pots on and cut it upAround autumn and winter you can sometimes find them super discounted
>>97048784You could say this about anytime a new unit is added to any faction, this arguement is retarded. IDK players are the ones begging for new units. Even if they added some new meta cavalry unit that was just better than eels, nothing would stop you from continuing to run eels, at least until they get nerfed.
>>97048834This is pretty good art and it cannot save how ass that stormcast looks.
>>97048866I buy stuff in general hobby stores. The ones with plastic plane models and train sets etc.
>>97048881You are beyond saving.
I miss allegiances/subfactions having their own battle traits, command traits and artefacts. And remember how some used to have their own spell lore or prayer lore? Also I miss warscroll battalions. Why don't we have this stuff anymore?
>>97048965>Why don't we have this stuff anymore?I don't mean to be rude but id rather have a competitively balanced and minded experience. Wargamers have HH and ToW for more casual narrative driven games, let 40k and AoS be the t-sports they are destined to become.
Which circle do all the cool Knights of Ruin join?
Okay, hear me out. New army:Coney Lagomorphs.
>>97046285Hopefully this will be the last I have to see of furry aelves.
>>97048976King slayers. Nothing goes harder than that.
>>97045738Soon
What city is this?
>>97049134If in doubt, Hammerhal Aqsha. Always. Every damn time.
>>97049134The portcullis imagery is a Greywater Fastness thing but they're usually yellow and not orangeProbably either that or just a random color scheme
>>97049134The showcase cavalier models were given idiosyncratic paintjobs to set them apart from the rest of the freeguild range.
>>97048976>Swords of ChaosLike the WHFB bunch? How many AoS Chaos Lords are WHFB survivors anyway?
>>97049196The 4e spread is a bit more informative. Plus the little doodles are nice.
>>97049222Dammit >>97048976
>>97049196>How many AoS Chaos Lords are WHFB survivors anyway?Afaik it's only the guys with models. Mostly Nurgle dudes. Sigvald is around but was dead for the longest time, so not so much a survivor as a returnee.
>>97046413Anno but AoS
>>97048965What currently is the point of grand alliances anyway? The stupid regiments of renown system did away with combined faction armies, they don't seem to have a ton of meaningful cooperation in the lore, what functional purpose do the "grand alliances" serve other than arbitrarily grouping factions because 40k does it.
>>97049015>jobber pic unrelated
>>97049222The 4th seems fun.>You wanna ride with us, first you gotta poke the glowy rock.
>>97049281Mostly to group armies in the store.
>>97049269>Sigvald is around but was dead for the longest time, so not so much a survivor as a returnee.It's funny how Slaanesh managed to smuggle him over the boarder without anyone noticing.
>>97047774To be fair Ogor players were asking for females since Ogre Kingdoms from WFB.
>>97049858Shut the fuck up you fake grog retard faggot
>>97049858tru
>>97048965I miss them too. I picked up kb to mix into gitz and got sold on legions of nagash before 2nd. It would be cool of we got something, even for narrative that brought back allies in a more interesting way than just RoR.
>>97048025>iron veinIt would be red, brown, orange, or black. Not grey.
>>97049134knights have their own heraldry
Why does Nurgle get the coolest minis?
>>97048712Weapons and helmets eh I don't see much difference.Shields I 100% agree on, new ones are shaped kind of weird.
>>97050143nurgle is beloved by artists and hobbyists alike because it's very forgiving, errors can turn into features, so designing for it, or working on it, is a very pleasing process that makes it popular as a project and product.
>>97050153Tzeentch could also be forgiving after all he is the God of Change, but his models are meh. Though I might be biased because I hate Tzaangors
>>97050168Even if you hate tzaangor, every other tzeentch sculpt is pretty sweet. They pretty much just need new pink horrors that don't have visible arm joints and they'll be perfect
>>97050178Just give them a cool warrior or chosen equivalent and I will be happy
>>97050168tzeentch requires a certain eye towards elegance and sophistication, even if it is theoretically a very flexible concept too
Disciples just needs chaos warriors and it’s a proper 6e fb std army! Where demons, beastmen, and chaos warriors were all in one great big book! No but seriously this army can be ‘uge if gw even gave it 3 additional mortal kits.
>>970502302 mortal kits and redone pinkies
>>97049953The Maw is female and Ogors always were a matriarchal society.
>>97049858no, they weren't
>>97048866I don't, it looks like shit and I have sprues to chop up for elevation before using epoxy
>>97048775Still has better siege gameplay than AoS
>>97050189I think that'll probably happen anon just give it a bit
why cant people here accept that CoS are majority black in canon?
>>97050347If that’s your head canon than that’s fine. I won’t judge your love for melanated groups.
Youtube comment section tier bait
>>97050347That's not true, but they are black lead with a consistent representation of competent reclaimed black figures taking over the incompetent Azyrite leaders. Aqshy seems predominantly natively black so all the reclaimed characters are, and Hammerhal Aqaha is basically the only city that matters
>>97050359>Aqshy seems predominantly natively black
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>>97050373Those models were unreasonably rad.
>>97050385Why is the fire swordsman like twice the size of the ninjas?
>>97050387while the shadow bottoms were getting pegged, he studied the blade
>>97050387Chaotic gains.
>>97050369>>97050370>>97050373>Edassa >Tahlia >Zenestra >Tahlia's superior >Bastian Carthalos
>>97050439>>tahliawhy does everybody keep making this mistake, tahlia is a pajeeta
>>97050439that's called overrepresentation in positions of power.
Anyone got scans of Idoneth 4th ed Battletome as well as Lumineth’s release (2nd ed) battletome?I wanna get into each - grab the Idoneth spearhead as Inlove the models, and am also eyeing a Lumineth release box I found in a local store and am wondering if the release codex has enough lore to justify the extra bucksBtw as a newcomer which of the 2 factions has the easier spearhead? Aiming to play with friends for starter
>>97050448No, it's called evil whites are overrepresented in marauding warbands who obviously don't reflect the native population because they're defined by a corruptive external influence and designed to be general. Anon is arguing Khorne Bloodbound were designed to reflect Aqshy phenotypes but the idea of Aqshy or the realms themselves came after the models.
>>97050462Meta explanations don't matter, the canon is that the vast majority of the bloodbound, or any other type of marauders, were natives of a specific realm abandoned by sigmar after the closing of the gates and practically forced to join chaos. The bloodbound under khul in particular are aqshyan natives given the ultimatum: join the cannibal horde or die
>>97050462The scions of the flame and the brands were designed way after aqshy was defined, they are pureblood aqshyans.
>>97050473Canon is the only nsmef Aqshy characters are black aside from Khul, who is irrelevant given he's as old as the age of myth
>>97050487>aside from Khuland vandus, and gunnar's family and tribe, and direbrand, and the named underworlds khornate and darkoath warbands.
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>>97050027Yes I'm aware
>>97050359So you could say that Morathi buck broke Anvilgard?
