Grief Edition>Bans (new)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97037555>TQWhere do you see MTG 10 years from now?
>>97047377>Where do you see MTG 10 years from now?Worse, considerably.Hopefully dead.
>>97047377>TQprobably making more money than ever selling Star Wars and Batman and other UB sets
>Where do you see MTG 10 years from now?SAVED! Genius decision to make a new format called Standard CLASSIC (4 sets max + Foundations (Omniscience reprinted every 5 years)), separating it from Standard Extended (24 sets). Initial outrage from the players but both formats end up being very healthy and we all live good lives playing magic in our retirement homes.
>>97047377>>>TQ>Where do you see MTG 10 years from now?8 sets a year, one main universe magic mini set every 2 yearsnormal packs all now include 10 cards mini packs include 8new draft packs that only include commons
Why wasn't the racist dragon banned in all tormats during the great chud card genocide?
>>97047422the secret dragon cabal that manipulates the entire world approves of it
>>97047422The secret dragon cabal that got gay bolas put into the story threatened to cut funding.
>>97047422Mardu cards aren't real so it didn't need to be addressed.
>>97047377>TQnostalgic for companions
>>97047542
>Where do you see MTG 10 years from now?flourishing
In 10 years EDH will be the standard ruleset for Magic the Gathering and we will get sets focused entirely around Commander themes
>>97047572>>97047542AND THAT'S A THREAT.
With how many real-world references “Standard” UB sets have now, the only reason for never going back to Rabiah is kike bias.Free Rabiah
>>97047542>>97047572Honestly the fact Mark still unironically believes people think of Companion as anything but the biggest mistake in history is baffling. Lurrus even post-errata is arguably the strongest card ever printed in Magic. Even in the fake format there's a companion that had to be banned day 1. Yet he still seems to love bringing up Companion like it's some culmination of all MtG design.
>>97047865>Lurrus even post-errata is arguably the strongest card ever printed in Magic.Not even remotely close.Like it's not even top 10. Maybe top 100 at best.
>>97047865>Even in the fake format there's a companion that had to be banned day 1That's not due to power level, it's just how the restriction didn't matter due to how the formats works. They have a bunch of bans like that where mediocre cards become extremely good thanks to the nature of the format.
>>97047865>Even in the fake format there's a companion that had to be banned day 1Because the specific rules of the format made it inerently broken. It's a singleton-requiring companion in a singleton format. It's not banned in any non-singleton format because it sucks ass there.
>>97047794>We will get sets focused entirely around Commander themesThat's already almost every magic set. Every set is filled with whacky multi colour legendaries, do thing draw a card and double thing effects that are entirely pandering to the commander audience
>>97047865Youre retardedLurrus was just good value that had no downside in eternal formats because many of them already ran super low curves. There are dozens of cards that should have been banned from vintage if the goal was ever to actually curate the format but that wasnt its purposeNotably Lurrus did fuck all in commander, the only format wotc cares about
>>97047794Every piece of communication WOTC has made about the problems of standard for the past several years has been just them basically, as tactfully as they can manage, tip toeing around straight up admitting that standard is simply not a priority for them and it's simply secondary to commander when it comes to priorities in designing cards.And everytime I see MTG players complain about design decisions I can't help but picture them as sick children mad that their parents and doctors won't be forward with state of their cancer with them but the truth is that they're simply terminal and the adults just want to spare them the despair of knowing it and hope for them to just drift up into eternal sleep as quietly as possible.
>>97047418>new draft packs that only include commonsYou say this as though it’s a bad thing. Otherwise unplayable commons are the biggest reason limited is fun and pushed for commander bomb rares are the worst thing about it. I would draft the shit out of common only packs
>>97048080Yeah, draft packs without absurd bombs would be pretty cool. The actual issue would be wotc charging a fortune for them, but the concept itself is fine.
>>97047377Was Avatar as succesful as it seems? This will cement UB for the upcoming years and allow us to have more waifus?
>>97048256decent art, decent mechanics, pretty powerful for standard
>>97047936Academy doesn't draw itself into your hand.
>>97047973>>97047976That doesn't change the fact that out of the 10 companions, one of them took a day 0 ban because it would have instantly been included in most decks.
>>97048264Also people seem to be enjoying the limited which helps as it means people have a reason to buy packs for drafting
I won the draft today by a country mile. Lost only one game. Four games I never even went under 20 life. Bangers were South Pole Voyager, Aang SS, and Team Avatar
>>97048436THIS DUDE ACTUALLY PAID TO PLAY THE AVATURD SET
>>97048455No I didn’t. I won, so I got the $80 pool and 4 prize packs. I did buy two collector boxes and a play box for myself though, but that’s beside the point
>>97048469Don't respond to draftlets.
Standard status?
>>97048519Dead but we pretending it isn't.
>>97048519soon to be taken over by firebending RDW once the list gets refined
>>97048044>hope for them to just drift up into eternal sleep as quietly as possibleYeah, I think it is a display of immense incompetence that most Magic players, whether they feel negatively or positively about Wizards, don't know Wizards doesn't give a fuck about Standard or doing anything correctly for that matter like opening product before it ships to make sure the cards contained within match the printed decklist. At some point it's going to reach a critical point where Standard is so dead the players will start saying "who cares about Standard" the way they say "who cares about Vintage" right now because players in any game won't miss an opportunity to shit on players playing the game in a way different than them. People shit on EDH when it was young, and now that it is popular, EDH players shit on other players.Generally, I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are literate as to the happenings in the game. But it's absolutely not true, the players are tunnel visioned and won't give a shit about anything that doesn't directly concern them in the game. Basically every UB hater has absolutely no idea how fucking bad Magic's lore has been since the beginning; I'm not saying UB is good but in almost every case it's better than the complete fucking sewage story that Wizards shits out.
>>97048691>At some point it's going to reach a critical point where Standard is so dead the players will start saying "who cares about Standard"We hit that point like 3 years ago.
>>97048695I'm sorry I didn't know.I should add that anybody who says "who cares about Standard" should be tossed out of the store but we can't scream at wrong people anymore.
is monoG ramp a thing in Standard now?there are 2 rampant growth effects you can pretty much always have an Ugin or whatever on turn 4
>>97048436>paper draft shit I forgot paper limited was even a thing. I should be farming prereleases for these kinds of sets.that's a gross deck by the way, not much in the format could stand up to that
>>97048668I thought Expressive Shiteration was seeing play in Legacy last time I checked. People were complaining it was the most busted card. What happened?
>>97048939It was played in Delver, which was the most popular deck. 2 mana draw 2 was also too good in a format with so many good low cost/free cards. So it got bannedFunnily enough, it got banned in both Pioneer and Legacy, just not Modern.
four attacktriggers
>>97048668Quantum Riddler doesn't draw 2 cards it draws 3 cards, one of which is itself another 3-for-1. Then when you pair it with any other incidental draw effects like Clue tokens or FOMO it's just disgusting. Alchemy-tier card design.
>>97049016>another 2 mana gamewinning value engine that replaces itself on etbMany such cases!
>>97049016Imagine a world where we never got Panharmonicon which means we never got drowned with "do thing AGAIN" cards
>>97049017Worst part about Riddler is that it encourages more linear hand vomit piles, for some reason Wizards wants to reward these strategies with infinite free card advantage for just unga bungaing as hard as possible. It's not that good in control unless you're in a matchup against heavy discard.
>>97049044They need to print more pitch evokers so we can vomit our hand faster and literally just play yugioh in modern.
>>97049052Weren't people playing t2 Omniscience in Standard a while ago?
>Someone figured out Boomerang Basics is a 1 mana draw 2 and won a Showcase Challenge with itWe will never escape Izzet hell until Stormchaser's Talent is banned.
I keep getting my ass kicked by fire bending girl.
>>97048293No it just wins you the game on the spot
>>97049064I don't really care about standard anymore, they killed it and turned it into extendedI have no reason to interact with extended when other formats exist
>>97049071UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH
>the graveyard is your second hand>the battlefield is your third hand>the exile zone is your fourth handmagic isn't playable by humans anymore bros
>>97049016>6 mana do nothing yawn.
>>97049081>>the battlefield is your third hand?
>>97049084They keep printing a pletora of cards that are ultra efficient bounce/flicker fods like Stormchaser, Hopeless Nightmare, Quantum Riddler so shit you played are just cards waiting to be redrawn.
>>97049093That's cool though. Self bounce/blink is a fun playstyle. I love Jeskai Ephemerate in pauper for one
Would you play my cube? All its creatures are 0/1 or 1/1 with no ways to buff them. It's full of alt win-cons and some of the most powerful engines in the history of the game.https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/e71f123c-c74f-4d90-9d7c-251c2a1742cd#
>>97049100No shut up anon, new thing bad. Unless the game stays frozen in the exact state that it was in when I started playing, it's shit.
>>97049149This but unironically
>standard is a three to four turn format where did everything go wrong
>>97049183saga block
>>97049183FIRE designEvery creature has to be ultra efficientEvery game winning engine has to replace itself on etb so removal is worthlessInteractions have to be bad because those are for eternal formatsAlsoCards are no longer designed with Standard in mind. Cards are designed for Commanders, which is Vintage/legacy in power level. They just happen to be Standard legal, as a way to dilute pack values.
so is standard fucked (again)?
>>97049237bans aren't going to fix 3 years standard + 7 sets per year, they were barely working on 2 years standard with 4 sets a year
>>97049261standard is crazythere are more cards legal in standard now than the total number of cards printed from alpha through urza's block
I would pay actual money to see this UB shit die. At least before what killed me was a mouse from Bloomburrow or a Spirit from Duskmourne… Now is a fucking shitter from Spider-Man, a mage from FF or a ridiculous asian from Avatar.Fuck this shit.
>>97049293Just wait until my aggro Lt. Worf deck comes out
>>97049293Worst has yet to come anon.[Spoiler]KAMIGAWABUNGA!!![/Spoiler]
>quantum diddler is the best card in both Modarn and StandardHoly fuck
>>97049399I cant fathom why they would even make a mulldrifter that is cheaper to "evoke" and can double as a beatstick finisher, as if mulldrifter wasnt already a good card. You cant even kill the thing effectively in modern outside of Galvanic Discharge or Unholy Heat, or temporarily with Into the Flood Maw, a 4/4 wouldve sufficed but a fucking 4/6???
>>97049559>You cant even kill the thing effectively in modern outside of <MH3 card> or <MH2 card>What a sad state of affair we are inMH4 will fix this.
lol the retarded animals crying about MH3 and UB are now just crying about non-UB Standard cardthe tears will never stop
>>97049676Its FIRE design in general. UB and MH sets inherently have FIRE. Look at pic related this is turn 3 because of Badgermole Cub. Yeah sure the greenfags can celebrate now that theyre back, but this shouldnt be a thing just like how Vivi, cutter and nemesis shouldnt be a thing
>>97049685league-of-legends-ass 'release broken thing so everyone buys and fix it after fomo' tactics
>>97049559>I cant fathomThey don't test anything anymore. That's it, that's all it is. And it's not just Mulldrifter, it's also Consecrated Sphinx, which explains the 4/6. Nobody looks at a card or plays with a card, that's why we have spelling mistakes.You just have to assume what happened with Nadu happens with literally everything. It's just that Nadu slipped through but we have to assume their admission is just standard practice. Like do you really think they tested Vivi? Fuck no.
Aetherdrift was a better set than Tarkir.
i liked the piss lands
>>97049869You are wrong
>>97047865Don't get me wrong, a 3/2 highly splashable lifelink creature for 3 mana is pretty good, but what makes Lurrus so appealing is that the Legacy and Vintage decks that would want it have to make almost no concessions in order to reach the Companion requirement. There are enough strong playable 1 and 2 mana cards in this game that you can completely forgo anything 3+ mana if it means starting with an 8th card in hand. Oh and the interaction with Black Lotus is really silly and good.
>>97050093but legacy and vintage are used to insane power level cards like fow and moxen. lurrus is too strong for anything else.
Is anyone going to Eternal Weekend in Yokohama? What's going to be the top Legacy deck to beat?
Wubba dubba dubba that true?
>>97050145Its a little bit of both. I was in Vegas and what usually happens is that it was either some dumb Amulet player who probably never practiced or jumped on the Amulet bandwagon or it some 2 jeskai blink players stonewalling each other with Sphinxes and Phlages. Honestly both are pretty dumb. I'd root for the affinity and prowess players everytime, their matches should be done in minutes
>>97050145This is why WotC does shit like print Screaming Nemesis and make it impossible to gain life without attacking.
>>97050145Mr. President, a third pitch elemental has started causing problems.
>>97050172Honestly all the MH2 pitch elementals were mistakes. I can probably give a pass to Endurance because it prevents GY shenanigans but even then the 3cc 3/4 statline is stupid
>>97050145ive only ever played against one amulet titan player where the match didnt go to time
>>97049940
>MH2: cards don't cost mana anymore>MH3: land drops don't take up slots in your deck anymoreWhat will MH4 push for next?
Spells dont use the stack anymore
>>97050248Everything is a free spell.
>>97050248you can cast cards from your sideboard (now extra deck/companion 2.0)
>>97050202is amulet really that hard to pilot? it seems like a mid difficulty deck like not as hard as legacy elves.
>>97050309Even with Aftermath Analyst and Urza's Saga making the deck less clunky, its a legitimately challenging deck to pilot. I wont glaze the deck too much but it speaks volumes when the deck's playerbase is made up of people who cant make it place anything and like a couple handful of people who manages to get 1st-4th in big events.
>>97050145I fail to see how this card is causing any problems.
>>97049869Based insect urine gulper.Gastal would be proud.
>>97050401
>>97050239Enjoying bad quality things is wrong.Having good, discerning taste is a virtue.
>>97049016WE NEEDMOREPOWER
Pulls from my Play Booster Box.
>>97050481You got all the greatest hits. You couldve bought a lottery ticket yknow
>>97050481Holy fuck MTG sucks ass.
>>97047377But they could have called him The Demon Of Grief, it would have been much more realistic.
What's the theme?
>>97050560>what is the latest set released>what is the creature type line
>>97050579
>>97050503not mtgmagic 2
>>97050560>>97050579>>97050644MIND=BLOWN!!
Anyone else notice that all LGS are taking photos of their customers and posting them to social media without permission? Mine did that with me, I asked them to take it down and I get ignored. Is WOTC telling stores to do this? I look on FB or Insta and it looks like every LGS does it, and most people who are photoed don't even know it's happening, that was the case with me. TL;DR - Anyone noticed their LGS having absolutely no respect for patrons' privacy?
>>97050843>I asked them to take it down and I get ignoredInvoke GDPR. You are European, right?
>>97050851No, I'm American, from Pennsylvania. Am I shit outta luck?
>>97049819Tarkir was ONLY good for drafting 4c dragon bomb piles and watching 7 dragons enter the battlefield every turn.
>>97050248You chain cast creature spells from your sideboard if you have enough devotion to two or three specific colors. Sideboards now become extra hands for casting your bombs.
>>97050857tell them that you use mtg to escape from an abusive home/relationship and poating your image online may help your abuser find you and you want it removed for your safety
>>97050857Yeah. You can film any public area in the United States without requesting consent from people in the field of view, and in most states you can film in a private property without requesting consent from other parties. Or did you just not think about how cctc recordings work? You're not one of those guys that's okay with being recorded by "security caneras" in every fucking sfore, are you?
>>97050907>Tribute: You may cast this spell from your side board by sacrificing creatures whose total mana cost is equal to or greater than the tribute cost>This is instant speed just to work with the pitched elementals
>>97050843Type up a cease and desist.
I opened up a full art foil owl bro from the new Avatar set. What deck should I put him in?
>>97050936>What deck should I put him in?Roll 'em up real tight and sound yourself.
>>97050857>Am I shit outta luck?Pennsylvania lawfag here.Invasion of privacy laws in Pennsylvania, in this context (Taking photos without permission and sharing them) only pertain to doing so for the purpose of sexual gratification.You have no actionable case in the state.
>We have noticed that Amulet Titans, despite having only around 50% winrate, has a very unhealthy play pattern>That is, despite being called a "Modern" deck, it exhibits fewer than 30% Modern Horizons card>We have decided to ban Primeval Titan to ensure Modern players can compete healthily against players who actually play Modern
>>97050966>That is, despite being called a "Modern" deck, it exhibits fewer than 30% Modern Horizons cardReally despicable honestly. It has to go.
>>97050966>>97050977they're going to ban amulet, if they ban titan, people will just play lumra or cultivator colossus instead
>>97051004If they wanted to make Modern great again, they should just ban everything with the word Island on it.
Waiting for WoTC to print "restore life" so that it goes past screaming nemesis
>>97051066Set life to is a thing.
>>97051089"Set life to X+4 where X is your current life total" just doesn't have the same ring to it
>>97051095Nevermind I forgot set life is a life gain loss.
>>97050932>you may search your library for a creature with mana cost X or less, where X is your devotion to ( color ) among ( creature type ) creatures. Then, sacrifice ( creature type ) creatures with total devotion X or greater and you may cast that card without paying its mana cost
>>97047865the thing is Companion was Mark's long held idea he has had since back in Urza's Saga iirc. Iirc he has a blogpost about proposing it and everyone called him a retard. He then sat on the idea for decades until everyone else left and he was top dog and could push the idea through anyways.
So, are UB cards essentially on a 2nd reserve list with how other brands IP works?
>>97049293>listening to background movie review >even the movie reviewer takes a potshot at magic as an example of the fortniteification of media and how its bad
>>97050843>go to public place>expect to have a reasonable expectation of privacyAre you retarded or something? Unless you're some absolute slob who cares if a random photo of you is on your lgs's Facebook page that gets double digit views. You're at an lgs not a klan meeting lmao
>>97051159>So, are UB cards essentially on a 2nd reserve list with how other brands IP works?Yep. They'd need to pay another licensing fee to print them again, and no fucking chance in HELL is WotC doing that.
>>97051159nothing is stopping JotC from reprinting bowmasters with a different art and flavor text
>>97051025>counterspells you with mana confluence and a treasure psh....
>>97051185I hope they reprint it with art and flavor from another UB
>>97051161But what if my friends from the Klan meetings see the picture of me at the LGS? What if they make fun of me?
>>97050946If you're taking photos for personal use, that’s usually fine. But using someone’s image for commercial purposes—like advertising—requires their written permission. This falls under 42 Pa.C.S.A. § 8316, which protects people from having their name or image used for profit without consent.
>>97051110Lets be real anon, those can be erratad. It's the word count that matters
>>97051330>If you're taking photos for personal use, that’s usually fine. But using someone’s image for commercial purposes—like advertising—requires their written permission. This falls under 42 Pa.C.S.A. § 8316, which protects people from having their name or image used for profit without consent.Only relevant if the face or name of the person being used can be established to have commercial value to begin with.In Pennsylvania, basically, celebrities get to have privacy but you don't.
>>97051310Then make like you do at a klan meeting and wear a mask, they'll never know
>>97051337>In Pennsylvania, basically, celebrities get to have privacy but you don't.Incredibly low IQ take, laws like this are designed to prevent paparazzi (some of the lowest forms of human life) from harassing persons of interest
>>97051347>laws like this are designed to prevent paparazzi (some of the lowest forms of human life) from harassing persons of interestThe law protects celebrities but does not protect common people.The purpose of the system is what it does.
>>97051351Learn how to file a complaint dumbass nigger
>>97051359>Complaint gets dismissed because of relevant case law.I'd rather just not, honestly.
>>97051364>I'd rather not enforce the lawYeah, this is why your shit would get thrown out on prior rulings dumbass.
>>97051351>The law protects celebrities but does not protect common peopleHow many average Joes are being harassed by paparazzi exactly? Do you think laws like this make it illegal for stores to run their security cameras or for tourists to take pictures because a public figure happened to walk by? You aren't citing some exception to privacy designed for the wealthy, you're citing a variation of stalking laws to cover public figures getting harassed in their day to day lives. Anon still hasn't responded why he's so paranoid about being photographed at the lgs
>>97050193Free spells are always a mistake. Ornithopter is mistake that was harmless until affinity was printed.
>>97051380>How many average Joes are being harassed by paparazzi exactly?Civics is only ever ethical when it is founded on universal principles. A law that protects one group and excludes another is not ethical. Predicating the protection of privacy on the fame of an individual is a betrayal of justice.
>>97050158>some dumb Amulet player who probably never practiced or jumped on the Amulet bandwagonThis is what got Eggs banned too
>>97050193endurance is my favorite because it rapes graveyardfags so hard
>>97051387Sure just ignore all the parts of my post that explain why your interpretation of the law is wrong. Retard.>A law that protects one group and excludes another is not ethicalThis is such a ridiculously obtuse reading of all of this I have to assume youre doing it on purpose. Anybody, especially these days, can become a public figure and the law is designed to address harassment that a non-public figure is not likely to be subject to. Your LGS is not harassing or stalking you by capturing their play area while you happened to be there and using it to promote their brand or events online. Public figure definitions exist for a variety of reasons that would probably go over your head and public figures actually lose out on certain expectations and legal precedents ordinary citizens enjoy. >Predicating the protection of privacy on the fame of an individual is a betrayal of justice.This is a truism. This law does not create special exceptions to existing privacy laws for super important people, it is a variant on stalking laws that is in most cases applicable to public figures. This does not infringe on your rights and expectations of privacy (which typically apply to your home, vehicle, mail, electronic mail and telephone communications to give a few examples) that public figures don't also have and does not grant them special expectations of privacy where you wouldn't have them. To illustrate how retarded you sound right now let me give an example: public figures typically have a higher bar to overcome in defamation cases because their notable status naturally invites public speculation on their character, past and actions. Should YOU, a plebian private citizen, have to overcome the same sort of higher bars in a defamation case if I follow you around and tell your family friends and workplace you're a gay retarded pedophile? Is it not unfair to the public figures if the court doesn't apply those higher standards to you, a gay retarded plebian? Retard.
This is my most hated free spell.It's the only free spell that actually goes 1 for 1.It exists solely to shit on all sideboard tech, for free, through Blood Moon.I fucking hate Force of Niggor.
Vigor
>>97051605That's the word. You can say viga tho
>>97051621Vigga is their word. You can only say it if you play green.
>both legal in Standard at the same timetime for some high quality gameplay
>>97052021and both are awful because of one fishy guy
simic chads will rule this format after the kaito ban
>>97052179There not banning kaito. There are too many broken cards that scale towards infinity. The game has exponential growth now, its FIRE.
>>97052286>There not banning kaito. There are too many broken cards that scale towards infinity. The game has exponential growth now, its FIRE.>If an ability of a creature you control would trigger, put a +1/+1 counter on Marouboroid then that ability triggers a number of additional times equal to Marouboroid's power.Hey wotc hire me.
>>97052021>paying 2G a turn to get one (1) 2/2 blocker from one of your landswould have been cool 10 years ago. now it's limited fodder at best.
>no matter what card they ban from Izzet, it will still be the best color combination in standard because they went overboard with looting and 2nd spell payoffs
>>97052348Izzet isn't even top 5 right now.
Standard Metagame Update (24 nov)
>>97052390We are so back.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/psychological-reactionsPoison will never be removal.
>>97052390>nobody is playing white deck winsMono-White is really good, especially with those new cards from Avatar the Last Airbender.
>>97052454>Phyrexians are his number one greatest Magic villainsThey are going to be part of the Reality Fracture stuff, aren't they?
>>97052454>nothing removes poison countersoh is that so?
>>97052454He's right. Otherwise it'd just be life.
>>97052454*removable.
>>97052498As the heroes
>>97052390Was banning vivi worth it?
>>97052507Many things remove poison counters. Not many from any player.
>>97052454most infect decks just try to oneshot so its not like it really matters anyways
>>97052454I prefer the feel of older poison, one counter at a time. It gives a way for little guys to be threatening. Infect feels like getting drowned in aids semen. These instances of poisonous 1 stack but still not as strong as infect.
>>97052544Don't get me wrong, I have a bit of a soft spot for them; but it'd just feel weird for them to come back
>>97052604reality fracture is just Planar Chaos 2.0 they will be there, but in pussified form
At around this time after SPM, they were already showing Avatar cards. Where are the Lorwyn cards?
>>97052634Or watch, they give out anti-venom counters to neutralize the poison counters; like how sometimes people do +1/+1 counters with persist creatures
>>97052728SPM was a failure, so they were in a hurry to distract us from it
So we agree all four bending mechanics were successful? Bit of a shame it's UB, it would have been nice to get support for it down the line
>>97052728They generally won't want to do many previews during holiday season, we might get a few cards shown but I don't expect anything substantial until January.
>>97052841>So we agree all four bending mechanics were successful?Nothing UB can be a success.UB is an admission of failure, that they are incapable of succeeding on their own merits.
>>97052979you know what I mean
>>97052841nopewaterbend does not have any mechanic flavor whatsoever, it's literally just improvise
>>97052841All four? Nah, but at least three of them can have their own uses in decks
He's back hunting for more round objects.
>>97052841Waterbending is a little weird.
I won't forgive them that my wife didn't get a card.
>>97053056I remember when fblthp was just an easter egg tier thingboy they BADLY want a mascot. >lootlol
>>97053235How do you get MtG a mascot on the level pikachu
>>97053315Big tits, big ass, small waist.Woman. Make her a planeswalker and put her in everything for 10 years.
>>97052841Airbending didn't need to be a mechanic and Firebend could be improved with a version that adds colorless mana so all color could get it.
>>97047377>What is EDH?>https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1What about MTG Brawl. Is that still magic? It is 1v1 at least.
>>97053377Brawl would be so much better without a commander.
>>97053349They tried, but there so incompetent, they removed her tits in Aetherdrift. Maybe loot drained her milk?
>>97053315Honestly elesh norn should be the face of mtg and as far as I'm concerned she is.
>>97053437Chandra worked well enough. Blame The Anointed for squandering what they had in the name of social change.
>>97053437Imagine not leaning into this
>>97053437Jace should have been the mascot but they stole his robes and made him lame and gay>>97053349>Femoid mascotMaybe a new bitch for Jace to fuck every set but otherwise it won't work. Gatewatch was the closest they came to having mascots and people hated it.
We lost so hard
>>97053535People hate planeswalkers as card a type. Most people like the planeswalker characters. It's too bad they didn't stick with this style of creature instead of creating a new card type.
>>97053589>People hate planeswalkers as card a typedo they?I like planeswalkers as a card type but I kinda hate planeswalkers as a story thing
>>97053572She's basically just a man now. Is this what feminists want?
>>97053315You don't. In the space of 30 years Pokemon as a franchise sold double as much as Disney which has been around for 3 times as long.
>>97053572so who's this dude in the lore?
>>97053611She will only be feminine on her own terms.
>>97053627That's John Chandra.
>>97053627That's Chandra Nalaar.
>>97053315>Take one of your oldest named dragons (visibly anchors the game as fantasy, has ties to what has now become your most popular format)>Figure out a reason to change his personality because everyone from that era was a huge asshole (give him amnesia?)>Give him a gay love interest so you can say it's progressive>Make him aura farm all the time>Corner the market on gays, furries, thirdies, and women all at the same time (notoriously all demographics with poor impulse control)
>average arena paypiggie draft pool
>>97053572Love this card
Chandra.
I bought the art card and I can just use this as proxy (I have the regular ver) since the real Borderless is pricy, right? The art is mid anyway
>>97053686>holds microphone up to his eyefor what purpose?
>>97053686why is her neck so longstretched like gumby
>>97053686Is that a big eyeball wtih boobs?
>>97053604I've never talked with someone who knew of the planeswalkers lore behind the cards and didn't like them. it's like a filter where if you don't care about them you don't read their stories.For planeswalkers as a card type I hate them. They're on the same level as free spells in terms of how they effect the game. You pay an initial cost and get an option at two effects, which is okay. But than your opponent has to spend resources or you get to keep using an effect without paying for it. Urza wins the game if I get to use him two turns in a row. It does cost 15 mana
>>97053709whiplash
>1WR>3/2 trample, first strike, lifelink>doubles damage until end of next turnIsn't it crazy that in 2025 this card sees play in zero formats? It would easily be a stable in MH1 modern but now it's not even standard playableHow fucked up is that? Just think about it
>>97053706just dont be poor broski what are you doing
>>97053715That's Vnwxt. Don't you remember the legendary memorable character?
>>97053229That's a child
>>970537383 mana do nothing would never be a "staple in mh1 modern", retardbro
>>97053715>Only the eyeball abomination is allowed breastsSick sad world.
Fleem was forced by wotc
>>97053763Loot was not received well so we had to improvise.
>>97053763Just like how dat boi was a forced meme by the cia its so obviously astroturfed.
>>97053754*Humans this post*
Did you guys see the art of the flower dog for lorwyn?
>>97053771
>>97053787Yeah. We are already decided the set will be shit.
>>97053787yes, and wotc is relying on nostalgia to sell the set (it will work)they will wash and sanitize lorwyn's history, removing what made it slightly different than normal fantasy settings
>>97053787MTG players failed to become part of WOTC and Lorwyn will suffer because of it.
>>97053754I'm confused. Having a 3/2 first striker does nothing? It's at the very least a good blocker. I fucking hate current year constructed and the retards who enable this kind of power creep.
We need a card with both loot and fleem asap
>>97053738It sees play in casual play just not tournaments.
who is to blame? the consumer for continuing to support a zombified franchise that mostly still functions but obviously is being controlled by cultural warriors? the cultural warriors themselves for hollowing out the franchise for cultural gain, wotc for not being more discerning in their hiring policies or the consumers for not giving up more lucrative positions in the us economy in order to secure the future of their beloved franchise?
https://vocaroo.com/1ddcdWq8OGQuReminder Chandra is straight.
>>97053763Fleem was forced by reddit.
>>97053850You're just bad at the game, bro. We are several years removed to where a 3 mana does nothing card does anything and even in mh1 it'd pale in power level compared to the other cards
>>97053872She was supposed to be pansexual but now must be an eternal lesbian.
>>97053871The root cause if the absolute chokehold that leftists have had on arts education for decades. That's literally where it all starts, you cannot even hire a simple 3D modeller or scriptwriter who hasn't been exposed to every variety of danger hair troon since the age of 18 or younger.More specifically to MTG is the big overlap in WOTC's consumer base with TTRPG players which is a huge SJW stronghold now.
>>97053884I think I enjoyed the game the most back in 4th edition. At least I can still play cube and limited.
>>97053917Damn, suddenly I feel like a retard making $250,000 a year when at the end of the day some dipshit barely making rent ultimately has more influence than I do where it counts. I shoulda studied the arts instead of stem
>>97053315Return to Hill Giant.
>>97053686Friendly reminder that thanks to omenpaths that there is now nothing that Chandra can do that cannot be done better by Lazav with a flamethrower
>>97053937>4th editionThat was literally 30 years ago, unc. Go do something else with your time, the game's been the way it is for longer than most its playerbase is alive
>>97052390>most represented avatar card is the 2 mana badger
>>97054159>30 years agoYes. I know. The game has been on a very long downhill spiral. A card like white knight would probably be unplayable (and RACIST) these days but I imagine people would still use swords to plowshares, mana vault, counterspell, maybe even control magic. This is nothing new but I feel like I blinked and the world has changed.
>>97053738It fails all the tests of a playable card. Dies to Shock at 3 mana. No Haste.>MH1 This is a 3cmc pack filler in MH1. Unrestricted sac engine, 4/4 with evasion and haste. They are not even on the same level.
>>97054256NOOO IN MY HEKKIN MH1RINO EVEN GRAY OGRE WOULD'VE BEEN PLAYABLE NOO
>>97053349>>97053315Isn't it just liliana? Back when I got into magic she was the face of the game. But, uh, I guess now that sexy women are soft-banned from mtg, she's been subtly ignored and replaced with Mandra and gay bolas.
>>97054316She was never the true face of magic. The closest was Jace.But yes sexy women are only allowed in UB and unsurprisingly those are the sets doing the best now.
>>97054348>Gypsy whore was the best we ever got>we can't even have that much anymoreit's over
>>97054368Not even the best Argyle.
Here's hoping they power creep bonecrusher giant
>>97051004They already played Colossus and it's not interchangable with Titan since the latter is a tutor. It'd drop to a tier 3 deck without Titan. Colossus is more of a finisher but Titan is the combo starter.
>TQI don't expect to magic 10 years from now
>>97054348>>97054368I prefer stinky hippy chicks.
>>97052560If anything, they didn't ban enough.
>>97052286>there not banning kaito>there
>>97054599>it's not interchangable with TitanI never said it was, I'm saying a scapeshift + land untappers deck will still be competitive without titan, which is what is causing problems right now
>>97054673>competitiveAbout as competitive as reanimate in legacy without Entomblollmao
>>97049685Green stompy was better when it was just a deck with 10 lands and rogue elephant.
>>97054678you'll see
>>97054681kino
My beloved wife.
>>97051380>>97051523No one ever asked me as to why I'm paranoid about being photographed at the LGS, but I'll humor that anyway. I'm not really paranoid, I would just like to keep my private life and professional life completely separated and compartmentalized since I deal with serious issues in my work(like child abuse/neglect and helping those kids). I started playing MTG again after not having played since I was a freshman in college, so a ten year hiatus, and I went to my local game store to try it out in august. EOE was fun, and I even enjoyed Spiderman, as odd as both sets were compared to what I remembered from Zendikar. But the fact that this store photographed me and published this image without my knowledge or consent, and that they wouldn't even acknowledge what I think is a very reasonable and professional email, well, leaves a sour taste in my mouth about that LGS. I was looking for anonymous escapism, and since they won't give it to me, fuck owl central games, I'll take myself and my money elsewhere for leisure. I hope that answers your question, and I hope that you'll stop using the word "retard", as it is very offensive. Having a disability is not something that someone has a choice in, like consenting to photography used for business promotion is.
>>97054811>he liked spidermangshut up retard
>>97054811>since I deal with serious issues in my work(like child abuse/neglect and helping those kids)Okay how does you showing up in a picture at an LGS affect this is any way? Are you gonna lose your social work or therapy job or whatever cuz you got caught playing with cardboard?>But the fact that this store photographed me and published this image without my knowledge or consentThey do not need your knowledge or consent. You are in public. You were captured as part of a congregation at an event. >I was looking for anonymous escapismThis is simply not how the real world works. If you wanted to stay anonymous you should've stayed in your house and played arena.>fuck owl central gamesHow are you this retarded? You literally named the state and store, might as well tell me which of these fat slobs you are now>Having a disability is not something that someone has a choice in, like consenting to photography used for business promotion is.You actually don't have a choice in either of those, retard
>>97054811you should probably not be using 4chan
>>97054811literlaly just ask them nicely and they will put it down>b-but I already diddo it again, they didn't even answer you
>>97047572>>97047865he seriously believes because magic cards kept selling that he's right. if companion was that bad everybody would have quit cold turkey
So how does this card even work?
>>97054921He's correct from a capitalist point of view. If he had made the wrong choices, the market would've corrected.
>>97054934Just look up modular, you can use google this isn't a test.
>>97054934What's confusing about it?
Which set has the best basic lands and why is it these?
>>97054958Edge of Eternities basic lands were peak
>>97049336But you haven't seen the 27-28 sets yet..
>>97054921Magic has always had a very strong monopoly. Every year there's a new reason to hate WotC - retarded mechanics, bad balancing, price hiking, more legendaries, UBs being forced down people's throat. But people won't quit. People are addicted and there's no rationale.To put this into perspective, Commander has been around for so long and the ruleset has been retarded for about as long.Riot Games is making their own Commander ripoff. It takes years for this shit to even arrive to this stage. They know it's a cash cow and they want to capitalize on how retarded WotC with not changing the most basic shit of their most popular format. Not saying they'll succeed, but it shows that there are people out there who want to put money on how WotC will remain retarded for a long time.
>>97054973As long as people have money to burn this will just keep getting worse
>>97054958Alpha/Beta lands were the best, they just have so much soul
>>97055002and round edges, unlike edge of eternities. nice and square.
>>97054348This
>>97054934It doesn't, it's a bad card.
>>97054652Why would you prefer stink?
>>97054973Great job stating the obvious
>>97054958Portal Seccond Age
>>97055073SOVL
>>97055073yeah those are some nice lands
>>97055082 >>97055082>>97055082
>>97055073This guy gets it. The top and bottom plains are hands down my favorite basic land arts.
This thread hasn't even hit bump limit yet.
>>97053850>Having a 3/2 first striker does nothing? It's at the very least a good blockerDies to doom blade
