Previous: >>97048053>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQFavorite Avatar card?
>>97055182>Favorite Avatar card?You speaking Spanish, son?
>>97055182>tqI love fligger xDD
>>97055182you posted it
>>97055182>TQTorgaar, actually. Asymptotes the commander is hilarious with how they keep printing more life loss doubling effects.
What all those hands do
>all my enemies just go to the other side of tghe screen and wait for me to approachDoes this ever stop? Do i just chill in the other side of the corner and no one gets to play?
>>97055237Sounds like a basic babby rts problem. Should play an adult game like total war.
>>97055182>tq
>TQI hate cowardly troons.
>>97055203>Declare X is 99>Bounce my whole board Broken card desu
>>97055182>TQas a filthy lands lover this nigga has won me so many games
>TQonly I know his true potential
>>97055286>>97055293holy shit lol
Actual kpop UB when? None of this anime crap real idols please.
>>97055307
>>97055307Mtg is a metal game. Deal with it.
>>97055307Sorry, minimum average C cup size required unless its UW
>>97055182>Favorite Avatar card?
>>97055307It's coming and will be powercrept to oblivion. Prepare to have your favorite decks be curbstomped by Rumi and Zoe.
>>97055402it's funny how a 5/6 french vanilla flier is so underpowered in today's power level even if it did always cost UU
>>97055408>Rumi and Zoeweak shit. Mira mono red aggro.
>>97055413It was bad even in the days of Invasion-Masques block standard.
>TQAt first it was Toph but then it became Azula
>>97055415No doubt the tranny one will be pushed the hardest. Probably she will be boros though
>>97055182>tqIt was the rare I wanted when i was young and first playing during Urza's
>>97055422Rumi is way more """""""""coded""""""""" to be trans representation than the Resting Bitch Face one.
>TQMustache king.
>>97055408Fake image
>>97055448damn that's a stache
>>97055444Rumi is bisexual coded, the napalm era one is a literal troon
>>97055438Same. When I first started playing i thought this and avatar of woe were the strongest creatures ever
>>97055182Post your commander with the least decks built on edhrec
>>97055448> I love le heckin' cringe bracket 1 slopok boomer
>>97055182>TQMuldrotha. She was my first attempt at expanding beyond a precon I and building my own deck and I hold her close because of that. Don't really play her much anymore but I keep most of the deck around in case I ever get that itch.
>>97055448Damn this is a based fucking card
>>97055540
>>97055540Rank #1,657
>>97055540cheating a bit because it's brand new but this is the answer
>>97055540248 decks.
>>97055540Ivora. She's about as direct as a deck can get and she grows pretty fast to start hitting for threatening amounts. She's fun. Also gave me a use and appreciation for some of the blood tokens I had lying around.
Rank #2,499. 168 decks
>>97055540Been meaning to build that Aerith she seems fun. Ureni is a great way to build big creature etbs btw, very slept on
>>97055540she's almost as bad as a LEG legendary
>>97055599Yes we get it
>>97055631I don't get it
>>97055631do we?
Is there an equipment card of Odric's sword?
>>97055631U sad brah?
>>97055655Not as far as I know. Seems like a wasted opportunity.
When are they just going to pull the trigger and let all planeswalkers be commanders?People wanted that more than fucking meme cars being commanders.
>>97055413Prophecy is famous for being full of stinker cards and dud mechanics except for the one good rhystic card
>>97055199Avatar anon, it's a pretty common creature type. Torgaar is one, did you even look?My favorite's Avatar of Slaughter, cause mayhem is fun.
>>97055182>TQBEHOLD (x4)
>>97055602How did you build her? She has cool art and effects but she also seems bad
>>97055717This card kind of sucks really bad
>>97055682This was the saddest one to me. Everyone obsessed over Tamiyo, and I get it. I loved Tamiyo as a character, but I can also completely understand why a woman would submit to evil. This guy is totally different. A throwaway nothing Planeswalker. Just a guy who loved his cat and wanted to go on adventures with his bro. So sad man.
>>97055717Move around her counters before you hit them with the Worldslayer
>>97055261based
>>97055717>She has cool art and effects but she also seems badlike fucking clockwork. The best art is always stapled to hyper niche, middling or outright bad effects.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
>>97055540DONG ZHOU with 200 decks ishThen my og parnesse, turning all lands into islands (including urborg and yavimaya text)
I really enjoy brawl, edh has become too much of a combo fest25 life, is best life. >NOOO YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY THREATEN MY LIFETOTAL
>>97055751>cool artOnly in her alt weeb art
>>97055782>that custom sleeve>the parnesse faggotmore based than I can imagine. alright, I kneel
>>97055751Don't think that's necessarily true, the most played commander from her set has great art
>>97055540I haven't updated it in a long time. Hoping for some new mono-blue merfolk from Lorwyn.
>>97055540Surprising, considering how well supported pirates are.
>>97055795>western art looks static and staid, somewhat androgynous and unattractive subject>weeb art looks dynamic and exciting, highly gendered and appealing subjectWhat's up with that?
>>97055790Tifa Lockhart is the goddess of brawl
>>97055808It's because she's a fat grandma who looks like a cosplayer. No one wants an old fat hag to be the leader of their pirates deck
>>97055598>>97055554I would be really interested in seeing lists for these
>>97055833genuinely if she can stick for one turn, the next turn she's swinging for 22 damage, minimum every time.
>>97055817The soratami are canonically so androgynous that humans can't tell if they're male or female.
>>97055598Really did her dirty with this art but I always support mono red
>>97055782unfathomably based
>>97055798think that almost is the exception that proves the rule. you get one or two really good arts on okay/good cards per set.
Are there other colorless cards like these?Evasive creatures that can repeatedly destroy stuff?I'm enjoying these two a lot in my mono-black aggro list because they're emergency removal for annoying artifacts and enchantments when needed but still function as attackers.Meteor Golem KINDA works but it's a one-time thing and he has no evasion. I'm not doing reanimation loops, this is just a shitty aggro deck.
>>97055833This is why I play unsummon
>>97055889?
>>97055540Just under 3000 decks.I only own 3 decks and they're all in the 500-600 rank on edhrec.
>>97055889Cityscape leveler
>>97055540Rank 1,881453 Decks
>>97055851>The soratami are canonically so androgynous that humans can't tell if they're male or female.incorrect
>>97055583Got a list? I'm building it too
>>97055851Wrong
>>97055908his cock is bigger than yours.
>>97055895Yeah yeah, this is exactly what I'd want.Unfortunately it doesn't work too well in my deck since it's an aggro list so the majority of my cards are 1 mana.
>>97055817left looks better
Post your secret tech
>>97055924Don't steal.
>>97055926I bought one of these the other day am I a cool kid now
>>97055910Here ya gohttps://archidekt.com/decks/17497045/toph_earthbending
>>97055924blows my mind how little this card is played
>>97055928You are. Welcome to the club.
>>97055924This and cruel entertainment, people get pissy. But radiate a generous gift aimed at you - it's an art.
tried making a deck for Toph, gonna see if it's any good this weekend
>>97055955>no caged sunC'mon anon being able to end the game in a draw whenever you want is a very funny don't-lose-con
>>97055959I don't own a caged sun sadly
>>97055924>NOOOOOOOOOO THATS MLD THATS NOT FAIR!!! This gives you lands back, I'm not locking you out! I mean, you run plenty of basics right?
>>97055817You have weebflu left is much better
>>97055924I don't really have one. Wouldn't really call using an old card no one knows about really a "tech", its just a card.
>>97056054what the fuck are you people on aboutThe guy on the left is some bogg'd princess leia looking retard with gigantic shoulders and world of warcraft trash, and has frameless lens just making it even worse.
>>97055924>choose any number of creature>I choose 0>I don't attack with those 0 creatures>Those 0 creatures are destroyed.Shucks,
>>97056027>you run plenty of basics right?It's kinda insane how many people I run into have <5 basics in their decks. How fucking sweaty do you even need to be? My god.
>>97056075Nothing on the left looks as bad as the left arm on the right.Not to mention the stereotypical anime clothes and expression. Right just looks super generic and boring. There's nothing interesting about him.
if you are brewing any toph, use this>>97056081>literacy level: moron bitch
>>97056081>destroy each of the chosen creatures that didn’t attack this turn.ohhhh fuck, I thought it was like a quasi-goad thing where all creatures that didn't attack were destroyed. The actual effect is actually real shit
>>97056100that may be, but I'd rather have boring and generic over a bogdanoff transvestite
>>97056102>The way the card works is that the target player chooses which creatures will attack on their next turn. Creatures which are chosen to attack, but do not attack, are destroyed at the end of that turn. Creatures which are not chosen to be attackers are not affected in any way other than being unable to attack. You are, in fact, the fucking moron bitch. You can choose 0 due to "any number" and have nothing be destroyed.
>>97056105At best, they 0 zero and it just stops them from attacking for a rotation or 2. Otherwise they'll just be choosing the creatures that would be attacking anyway and it didn't really do anything. Also, stops hasted creatures that came in I guess.I don't think its worth the the slot in a deck no matter what.
>>97056027Non basic hate should be encouraged. If you want to run a greed pile you deserve to be punished
>>97056115>literacy level: elder clownanyway, you can't attack if you don't choose any creatures. Which is the point of the tech, stopping haste or surprise big swings.
>>97056141>anyway, you can't attack if you don't choose any creaturesYeah no shit dumbass. >>97056081 is completely right and you're acting like he's wrong. Get fucked
>>97056146of course I'm acting like he's wrong, he's paying attention to the wrong part of the ability and not how it's useful
>>97056148Oh no. I have to use my big beaters as blockers and remain untouched until I pull removal or just choose to swing over you like it doesn't matter in the first place.Your tech is shit.
>>97056155
>>97056027a key point in gavin's definition of MLD is "without replacement" so since this has ghost quarter text then yes go ahead, picrel
>>97055841If Beckett players used a cute pirate proxy for Beckett yall would goof on them for being coomers and/or proxyfags.
>>97056161>yallyou out yourself so easily
>>97056155You can't swing with anything if you don't choose any creatures. learn to read. jfc baka
>>97055841Oh God not this argument again
>>97056165So I'll have all of my blockers until I feel like swinging, which would be 99% of player's game plan to begin with or they have something worth swinging with that'll they'll just swing with as planned with the choosen creatures making you have wasted a card slot and mana to effectively have 0 impact on the game other than maybe catching an idiot simic player 1 out of 100 games.Super cool tech bro.If you're so worried about hasters coming in you're better off running Authority of the Consuls because it effects more than just one player and gives you something off them playing shit.>BakaRetard confirmed. Don't be an idiot in my presence again.
>>97056173Well, when you feel like swinging, you'll be choosing something then. >not knowing filters>recommending edhrec slop>simic player, not anyone with haste or attack triggerspoor show
>>97055540>using npcrec
>>97056148> turning cardboard sideways> 2025+1Sis...
>>97056158This is kosher but blood moon is haram? Gay earth
>>97056202Legally nothing wrong with getting ideas from edhrec
>>97056166I made a mistake engaging, I didn't know it was poopdickschizo
>>97055846Here's my Ivora list.https://moxfield.com/decks/hB4FdXIUz0OKO-55Ov84fg
>>97055540I'm starting to be amused at how many times this proves to be the answer to other anon's questions.
STOPHAVINGFUN
how good is wan shi tong??
>>97055675let me guess: goad?
>>97055540No Partner, we gamble alone.
What are the odds Lorwyn will have a better faerie tribal commander than alela? We've already seen it's going to have new auto includes for dimir faeries but I was halfway through assembling a UB faerie deck when they announced it and I don't want to go too deep into building it in case there's a strictly better FIRE farrier tribal commander included.I know WOTC staff lurk this thread. Am I wasting my time?
>>97055717>3 mana 3/3 haste that can become indestructible is considered badninjas will tell you a card is bad because it does not have 200 upsides and payoff printed on it
>>97056352it's likely, though the fact bitterbloom bearer has flash would make it likely Alela's gameplan will be improved significantly enough by a bunch of instant speed faerie cards you might end up with a situation where the new commander is more of a sidegrade than a direct upgrade
>>97056352whatever they will print it will probably be a sidegrade for Alela considering how strong goading is
>>97056233many things are that even a technicality npc like you would find vile
>>97056362Yes I hope they print way more flash faeries/permanents in the set. I'm very excited and upset that I am because wotc has a strong habit of doing the exact opposite of what I was hoping for with new sets. Hopefully Lorwyn isn't full of new mechanics nonsense and other set specific dumb stuff.>>97056385Goading would be especially devastating in my friend pod, since they love playing very few super strong or important to their strat creatures. It's part of the reason why I want to build Alela (I don't like white or red so I can't build a dedicated goading deck).
>>97055859Her face is a little screwed but it's in the feral vampire vein so I get it. Honestly, as far as art goes they could have done a lot worse so I don't really mind it that much.
>>97055583I'm not really sure why she discards and adds back on enter. Feels like a weird effect to tack on. The rest is good. Just that line that feels unneeded.
>>97056415think that at this point they might want to identify faeries with flash and generally instant-speed interaction rather aggressively to make the tribe stand outand course, it makes complete sense in both lore and flavor that faeries would be the ones popping up out of nowhere all the timeI don't think it's a coincidence that foundations had pic related and the first faerie revealed for Lorwyn had flash
>>97056421because you're supposed to get back lessons you already played so you can earthbend againeffect is ok, in my opinion not worthy putting her at the helm of a deck though
I don't want to play to win.I want to play to be as annoying as humanly possible to everyone at the table.What do I play?
>>97056444big dig augustin of course
>>97056444>colors able to hit anything>deck is just edict/removal tribal, stealing shit from your opponents>shuts down aristocrats and graveyard decks>opponents can't swing towards you easily with her on the fieldI played it quite a lot last year and it was tons of fun for me
>>97055627How'd you build her anon? I adore the card and have one build of her propped up by artifact recycling but it feels awful for how much dedicated stuff she needed to not just combust upon first tap
>>97056457>>97056454I'm going to try make or find something for both of these.Thanks.
>>97056457they should make sneks cuter
>>97056457>non-token>shuts down aristocratsHow exactly does it shut down an archetype that primarily sacs tokens? Or is your assumption that you just got removal at all times for everything?
>He needs opponent's creatures to diehow cute
>>97056515it's funny how they just keep playing them even when they KNOW I have all the edicts in hand
>I cast yorion>ok>I blink my board>ok>Heh look at all my va- why do you have 20 20/20s all of a sudden
>>97056434I'm also hoping for a reprint of pic related so I don't have to see magic players both across from me and on my cards
>>97055182accidentally missed the post last thread, but>>97053325https://archidekt.com/decks/13477493/fame_and_fortuneThis is my list, always looking for ways to improve it.
>>97055782Holy shit that sleeve, I want one for my own DONG.Are there really just ~200 Decks? You'd think a chad like him would have more players, I think I've seen at least three of us here already.
>>97055540See >>97056562244 decksWEAPAlso trying to make all my decks sub 1000 (sub 500 ideally) commanders
>>97055954Oh, that's a nice one. A bit expensive but I'll try to remember it for my decks.
>>97056562>Why is this deck $2000?!>$1900 sol ringkek
>>97056527i mean you always need at least two to not get wiped completetly and still develop a board, right?
Thank you edhrec, very cool.And it reads exactly how you'd expect.
>try to make sauron LOTR deck work for friend>reduced creature base to 20, 9 of which are nazgul>nearly 30 ring tempts spells>average mana value down to under 3.0>17 ramp or ramp-related spells like rocks and treasures>barely ever takes off before t7 when testingunacceptable. but I guess wraith tribal is just that bad. doesn't help either that I'm running maybe 2 cards that do anything with sauron's orc army.
>>97056655>written by a gorilla wearing toxic makeupincredible how leftoid parasites weasel their way into every nerd hobby they can find. it demonstrates how important it is to not be inclusive of everyone, or else you will be flooded with the scum of the earth.
>>97056655
>>97056161It's perfect too because you are literally pirating the card. Fuck that granny, now she's Monkey D. Luffy.
>>97056161I wouldn't because I am a "coomer" myself.Coomer being heterosexual male with a functioning sex drive who likes beautiful women.If I knew how to make proxies well, I'd use that or something similar.
>>97056513My experience has been mainly against Meren and other commander decks that can recur stuff from the graveyardalso yeah I had a lot of removal in there
>>97056810you mean reanimatorwhich is a pretty popular and strong archetype when left unchecked, so any deck that fucks with them is usually appreciated. on the other hand, any deck that can run ~20+ removal while following its gameplan is able to fuck with 99% of its opponents.
>>97056893>any deck that fucks with them is usually appreciatedWotC has printed a fuckton of graveyard hate and heaps of colorless ones too. i run picrel as a literal ramp piece that happens to hate on GYs too. you can always be that deck that fucks with them, easily
>>97056647by the time they can play multiple creatures I can play multiedict or some other bigger removal, and that's assuming everyone is playing multiple creaturesit's usually that maybe one or two players have creature decks and one other plays only one or two value ones every now and then.trying to race an edict every turn only seems feasible if you have token generators and even then you need to out pace the rats or have a one sided wipe. the deck really does nothing when nobody plays creatures
>>97056921>the deck really does nothing when nobody plays creaturesand so does nobody else when they try to follow their gameplan. How long do games last with that deck on the table?
why innistrad midnight hunt/crimson vow had the coolest legendaries?
>>97056941I have yet to play a game where people refuse to play creatures so I couldn't tell. I'd imagine pretty slow even if you draw the half that can end the game by themselves eventually like rankle or some demon. the wincon is combat damage so maybe some combo backup could be smart to have but mine is budget
>>97056912the problem with them isn't them just filling their graveyards. a lot of them will kill/mill and revive in the same turn, meaning you need instant responses, which a lot of decks don't have.
>Hey no gamers, here's an incentive to log off and actually play a game of edh irlBased wotc?
>>97057081I only play monocolor decks so I don't care about your mom's dildo
>>97057099Oh cool, what mono color lists are you running?
>>97057081Nothing will beat the Miku command tower.
>>97055540450.Hes fuck as fuck.
>>97057132Bristly billOrvar the all-formDjeru with eyes openGisa the hellraiserZada hedron grinderGraaz unstoppable juggernaut
>>97057197You got a list for gisa? Ive tried building her in the past and felt like the juice was not worth the squeeze
>>97057197What a bunch of boring as fuck decksImagine being smug about this lol
>>97056486Stax, lots of pieces to abuse her ability, some fun cards and some combos. It's not that good, but the closest i could approximate to mono R control. Needs some modern refinement, but it's still fun to play.
>>97057218it's basically removal.dek with some ramp to get her earlier than turn 5, it's mainly tailored around my playgroup>>97057229triggered ;-)
>>97056352But this is FIRE already anon
Is she worth building a deck for, or am I better off being a generic fuck and playing Nekusar instead?
>still grabbing wins in 2025My homie for life
>>97057276do it if you want a target on your head on turn 0a friend of mine minmaxed it and every time he plays her she gets blown up on upkeep
>>97056401Such as?
>>97057293That's what I figured. I'd plan to run her like an asshole with TOR, tutors, and the usual bullshit "draw a card, lose life" routine that gets amplified by her. Is there any way to keep her on the table for more than 5 seconds?
>>97057081>hey gamers use our brackets system in your lgs, you get a fancy command tower>expect more fancy cards to come as per our goal to normalize bracketsTimmy casuals self contain themselves in their basements, perfect
>>97057307undying effects and protection, but I'd rather cast damnation on an almost empty board than letting sheoldred untap
I HATE THE BRACKET SYSTEMI HATE THE BRACKET SYSTEM
>>97057319as long as the promos look like ass (pic related) or are cheap reprints I don't carepromo lotus petal, now that's a good promo
>>97057233>>97057286Man we got some based posters today
>>97055540With Adric: 3'668
>>97057307I haven't played her in the command zone, but my experience from wen she ruled Standard is that the best way to keep her alive is to play other must kill threats. Either your opponent uses all their removal on other things before she comes down, or they hold removal for her and end up killed by the things you played as bait.Not sure how well that would translate to getting through three players with 120 life though.
>>97057343I like this art
>>97056457I had this annoying faggot play this in austin. It’s not good, only irritates people playing creature based decks which arent good, and has no wincon when it runs out of removal or just eats shit from a deck that doesnt need creatures
>>97056279Any flash enabler turns this deck into a really brutal eternal board state
>>97057099>not running command tower in your monocolor deck as a joke
>>97057233Aieeeee! Are those colorless unconditional tutors in a mono red deck? Color identity sisters, our response?!
>>97057358My least edhrec commander is 3rd + SarahWho enjoyers, were the based hipsters now
>>97057454it's easy to be a hipster with partner commanders.
>>97054915>>97054933>>97054894You're gonna want a combination of lifegain, ramp, and self-damage to generate soldier tokens. Blasting Station goes infinite with a single Soul Warden-like effect, also, for infinite 'generic' ETB triggers.White has plenty of good catch-up ramp cards like Claim Jumper and Land Tax and Archaeomancer's Map. Don't forget to run the multi-mana lands like Lotus Field and Scorched Ruin (Saccing Flagstones of Trokair to either of these feels so good)
> Then I saw Zimone, Quandrix Prodigy in Strixhaven: School of Mages in 2021. My god. It was like lightning striking the tree in Jane Eyre. It was an omen - a good one in this case. Her unapologetic, unmistakable black skin. Her nose and lips and eyes. Her cheeks. Her palms, just slightly lighter than the rest of her. Her HAIR! So many times in all kinds of media they depict Black women with Eurocentric hair style, pushing them toward social acceptability to beauty, but there was Zimone! She was curly, poofy, coily. She had 4C hair. I teared up. She was smart, young, unsexualized. She was perfect. This is what I should have been given all along, not Sisay.Racists btfo
>>97057481Idk about all that but the Diskmourne Zimones are pretty fun commanders.
>>97057398>only irritates peopleExactly what I asked for>people playing creature based decksEven better since thats the vast majority of what I play against
>>97057541Noooo I said you can't play it
>>97057433remember to run it in your colorless eldrazi deck for maximum cool points
>>97055182>Favorite Avatar card?Not on my approved UB list. None
>>97057081Can't top best tower
>>97057338Then don't use it. I don't.
>>97057398wincon is torment of hailfire or mass reanimation>decks that does not need creaturesbracket 3 and lower are mostly creature decks so get ready for a 3 hour long game
>>97057571>capeshit
>>97055540>rank #1,073>1,572 decksI should swap this commander to either Errant and Giada or Isperia, Supreme Judge for less chaos. Inniaz does bring lots of salt to the pod if changing owners for combo pieces or commanders.
>>97057579I want to comment saying it isn't capeshit. But a guy in the image does have a cape, so you can come back and go "lol but look at the dude with a cape"as such, I kneel and refuse to call you out.
>>97057481well sissay isnt black so...
>>97057595im only half-coping because i wasn't there to pic up the best Version of my favorite aggro commander, possibly ever
>>97056328Am I playing the reverse voltron/goad list?Yes, yes I am.
>>97057611this art is so fucking good
>>97057622too busy for my liking
>>97057618holy shit that sounds like an absolute riot. my guess it's low power tho
>>97057618hell yeah
anon tell me if this is a efficient buy, id like to buy 2 final fantasy displays and one brothers war display + 2 precon final fantasy commander decks revival trance and scion and spellcraft and the starting collection foundation. i got many decks in mind i want to build and a friend got me hooked on commander. would you change something? i really like the final fantasy cards and never did booster lottery
>>97057650>would you change somethingto not play booster lottery
>>97057633the meme is that both ardenn and jeska can target ANY creature, even your opponents. the idea of the deck is to load up your opponents commanders/bombs with equipment/auras and turn them into voltron-ish cruise missiles to kill your other opponents. since you still own the equipments/auras you get the benefits from them. to finish the 1v1 you simply equip your own creature. in case the goad plan fails you got slicer and alexios as your backups.pic related is hilarious when equipped on a goaded enemy creature with jeska tripple damage buff.
>>97056359She;s not one of the top 4 boros commanders, therefore she is bad.
>>97057663im paying 10 percent under msrp so it wont hurt that much but i guess you are right
>>97055717Not bad just very bland
>have local 'rules expert' thats a complete faggot everyone trusts>angleshooting little bitch (this is to emphasize my distaste of him)In one game he managed to convince the table to fuck me out of a win three separate times. #1 Tellah triggerI get a fuckhuge amount of mana, and cast enough spells to deal 40~ to everyone. >Uhm ACTUAKLY, Tellah damage can only happen once, also I kill it. Since it's dead, IT cant deal damage>Vehemently disagree, but table thinks its valid, fine, fuck off#2One of my fuckhuge spells was storm kings thunder. XRRR -> Copy the next spell X times. I have copied this twice for a total of 40 copies. I cast prisoner's dilemma. >he counters it with swan song>k, there's still 40 more of them. >ACHKTUALLY it's a delayed trigger, and since I remove the copy target, the copies fizzle>start getting angry and pull the scryfall page but the table agrees with him#3He starts windmill casting cards, notably, the first card is grand abolisher>ACHKUTALLY, YOU CANT CAST SPELLS DURING MY TURN>yeah, I'm responding to the cast, I want to mystic reflection it into a pest>ITS ALREADY RESOLVED, IVE CAST TWO THINGS ALREADY>UHMMM THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING IVE DONE AND IVE REVEALED MULTIPLE THINGS FROM MY HAND>SO I DONT THINK WE SHOULD REWIND>combos out
>>97057756Talk to the shop owner and state you are considering no longer patronizing the business as a result.
>>97057541then prepare to be hated by people, and then never get to play with the same people twice. I'd recommend auntie blyte but since you are looking to intentionally aggravate people and be a faggot, I'll spare you any fun decks.
I just wanna build Feather in a way that doesn't make everyone hate me ffs...
old proxy, waddaya think?
>>97057756#1 he is wrong. you can show him the gatherer oracle rulings#2 see above#3 he is technically right but it depends if he clearly gave everyone a chance to respond before slamming more shit if he is an ass about it
>>97057756What an incorrect faggot he is
>>97057766It was a busy night packed, and no other 'judges' in the 2nd building. everyone seemed to think he knew what he was talking about.>>97057809>he is technically right>doesnt pass priority and lays 4 things down in the span of 5 secondsAnd I attempted to show him the scryfall/oracle rulings, but it was one of those odd bullying vibes where they just laughed at me like I was an idiot not knowing how to play the game. Definitely the closes I've been to losing my composure and raising my voice, or decking someone in the face while playing a card game.>>97057834I can't help but feel he KNEW he was wrong too and just bullshitting me.
>>97057857He's objectively in the wrong in each of these cases. But never take someone's word for it, check the scryfall for errata. Especially in Tellah's case his shit goes off even if the triggering spell is countered or Tellah is removed in response.
>>97057857>doesn't pass priorityoh he is definitely a loser then. best to avoid and make sure everyone else also avoids him
>>97056657You may be better off trying the Grixis Saruman. That at least generates orc armies on your own casts which is easier to work with and is in theme to run Sauron and any other Lord Of The Rings stuff.
>>97057857>It was a busy night packed, and no other 'judges' in the 2nd building. everyone seemed to think he knew what he was talking aboutThen find a new shop if they don't follow the rules.
>>97055261Love playing this in my lifegain deck, i always hear how busted it is
>>97057081So this another store promo? How you supposed to get it? Buy a certain amount of stuff? My local store usually hands out promos randomly to tables playing on commander nights but it's hard to say what they'll be hanging out exactly until they do.
>>97057144That he comes with his own "partner" with his dog is cool. I'm guessing it's loading him up with unblockable and then slapping on big creatures to sacrifice into him over and over?
>>97057197>Graaz unstoppable juggernautHow do games with him usually go? From personal experience I'd be afraid he'd never be able to attack safely and be removed constantly but I like the theme of never ending battering rams he's got.
>card featuring two underaged girls in a sauna clothed only with towelsThis feels weird to use. Isn't Toph like 10?
>>97057923we've reached the point where the pillar men secret lair is finally within reach.
>>97057793>auntie blyteFuck that guy but you got a list for her? She's been sitting near the top of my bulk for a while now and I've always wanted to try something for her.
>>97057923>clothed only with towelsThat's more than enough, no one gives a shit. There is a point where you can be too sensitive about nudity with kids and this is past it. Practically no one looks at that card and thinks of sex.
>>97057940>There is a point where you can be too sensitive about nudity with kidsIn the west? lol
>>97057932God I fucking hope so. I'd love anything from the first two parts.
>>97057793Auntie Blyte is fun though and tends to result in faster games thoughbeit
>>97057903it's the deck I play the least and I pretty much run every manadork I can so even if they blow him up I can re-cast it
>>97057575> non binary random person sits across from you> theyre wearing a mask> "what bracket are we playing?"Your unironic response?
>>97057948That makes sense. It feels like either he'd be blown up and costed out of the game fast or he'd be a final finishing move after you amass a bunch of small artifact creatures and tokens. Otherwise I wouldn't expect him to work.
>>97057923They should be nude
>>97057964"We don't use brackets in this pod"
>>970579643, the new 7
>>97057988no GC limit though since that is retarded
>>97057964bracket 1
>>97057964I gotta get going
>>97057964IS THAT A HECKIN MASK!?!?!??! Noooo I want you to get me sick so I can't show up next week!
>>97056444Why are you like this
>>97055507Aw, but I wanted to run a Jinu deck that was all about sacrificing himself.
>>97057871I keep trying to tell my friend that, but for some reason he is in love with the particular 6cmc sauron and his ring tempt wheeling, and he keeps playing the deck despite being by far the weakest one at our table. It doesn't help that he is a simple carpenter who doesn't care about deck building, he just wants to play commander every week. No idea where his love for sauron comes from, but maybe it's time to ask him.
>>97056444Hard to say because not everyone hates the same stuff. MLD is your best bet.
>>97057964show me your decklost and I'll pick a deck of appropriate power level
>>97057081How do i get this, guessing there's a event?
>>97058045Event between Dec 12th-18th>https://wpn.wizards.com/en/event/magic-presents-player-appreciation-turbo-tower>Each player begins the game with a Command Tower promo card on the battlefield. This promo card isn't counted as part of their deck; their deck still needs to include 100 cards, and it can include another copy of the Command Tower card if they wish.>At the end of the event, participants keep their Command Tower promo card as a thank-you for being part of the community.
>>97057964"Uhhh 3 ig, nice to meet you. You wanna join or should we get started?"
>>97057943>I'd love anything from the first two parts
>>97055540>158 decksFor good reason. He's not good and Iade him to be a werewolf tribal years ago during the Shadows Over Innistrad block when he was literally the only legendary werewolf.I still haven't taken it apart because it stopped being a werewolf deck and just because " Ulrich's Fight Club" and while it's still not good in this modern power-crept to shit era, I still have fun with it.
>>97058052you're supposed to rage and become a /pol/ stereotype
>>97058057>LadeWhat the fuck autocorrect. I made* him to be a werewolf tribal...
>>97057923>Isn't Toph like 10Outta 10!but really I thought she was 12, the same biological age as Aang.
>>97058071No clue. I don't watch the show.
>>97058058I only do that to followers of murderous ideologies, like muslims or - may god forgive me for uttering this wort - commies
Ive brought this precon and I've been looking to upgrade it. Enlightened master seems just too cheap and unfun to play against. What would you guys recommend between Narset enlightened Exile or Elsha the infinite? I've been enjoying copying big control spell but also like quick tempo play and doing silly combo with mana/flashback/draw
>>97057964We've got tranny content creators at our game store and it's jarring as fuck
>>97058077the likelihood of a nonbinary being a communist is pretty high but you'd never know unless they were also a sperg about it
>>97058099>you'd never knowcommunists are like vegans, half the time they are wearing badges
>>97058077so...all humans?
>>97058105no, reddit, not all humans follow murderous ideologies.
>>97058051Oh this sounds neat, I'll see if any of my locals are running events for this>>97058058True I need to own the nb fag with facts and logic until everyone claps>>97058088>Narset enlightened ExileI assume you're talking about the new jeskai precon and having done this upgrade: you will become the archenemy if you build it "right." Extra combats, stacking prowess, casting extra turn spells and stuff like that. My games with the deck became incredibly liberal and I broke it down after like 5 games
>>97058104Normally yes, but communism and nonbinarism are competing ideologies. Not in the sense that they are opposed to each other, but in the sense that they both want to completely subsume its bearer's identity; as such someone will generally present primarily as a communist or primarily as nonbinary
>>97058110All humans are evil, chanboi
>>97058099it is, but I don't judge unless I'm 100% sure. if a commie is afraid of being found out and never tells me, he can stay like this forever for all I care.>>97058105I don't desire to watch my family and friends die in the commie gulags or in earth holes on 300g wet bread per day. I don't desire my kids to be abused, raped and killed while the police is afraid to save them because "they are afraid of being rapist".I do not desire death. My greatest desire is to lock all muslims in muslims countries, so they can share the shitholes they create together, and to lock all commies in countries that openly declare to be communist. There, they will find death, sure, but my hands will be clean.
>>97057892Yeah, unblockable, dudes to sac, and a shitton of recursion to always have material.Also this thing.
>>97058137project your debasement elsewhere
>>97058095I suppose leaving the 4chan/X bubble do be like that
>>97058163Wait till you leave your lib bubble
>>97058095
>>97058169I'm literally here though
>>97058139>Also this thingOh. I completely forgot he's sacrifice any nonland permanent. Thought he was just creature. That's a lot more versatile. And Ugin's Nexus is a good one. I think there's only two instances of it in mono black but would this work with earth bending too?
>>97058179>ok fine i live in a bubble>well so do you chud!Kekw
>>97058163It's really not that common to meet these freaks in the wild. The only place I have ever seen one is at an LGS.
>>97058216Heres a guy who doesnt live in Austin
>>97058220Chicago, I can't imagine Austin is much different.
> browse edhrec> search on scryfall> browse decks on moxfield> still cant decide what cards to run
>>97058254If you cant decide what cards to run then you havent decided on what the deck is supposed to do or showcase. So circle back on that and ask yourself "what am I trying to DO?"
>>97058276Tbqh its an existing deck that I have. I guess when I lose a few games in a row I get antsy and start scheming about how I can make it better. I just felt like I had a hard time closing the game out against a really simple Talrand enjoyer. So now Im doing what I always do and remaking the list from scratch. Probably I need some better removal but Im not sure exactly. Also not sure if it me being biased but I do feel like I was disproportionately interacted with last few games. I had a very strong T3 play that got exiled immediately. I likely would have snowballed to a win if it didnt happen. Regardless, losing to all the drakes and not having an amswer feels bad.> just have it, I always have it
>Blue pip in your opponents color identityEasiest way to tell you're playing against a low iq, but high swear retard.
>>97058305Deck variance happens anon, try to not get a burr under your saddle about it
>>97058305What deck? What commander? Sometimes your opponents just happen to have a thing that counters you hard. A massive amount of flying 2/2s could just be something your deck naturally would have trouble dealing with. Share the list and break down where you think it goes wrong and why.
>>97058318
>>970579642. No tutors, no combos.
>>97058375That isn't what 2 is.
>>97055540It's completely outclassed by Kyler in both colors and affected tribe, but I still like it. Hoping the Ninja Turtles set will shake it up with a bunch of new mutants.
Give me your strangest and most powerful cards in grixis
>>97058452
>>97058452You cannot handle my most powerful grixis cards, anonthey're too strong for you
>>97055540It's going to be this briefly, then probably revert to Katilda and Lier. Sokka and Suki is a psychotic deck though, equipment was never meant to have living weapon on it baseline, and it's in the right colors to use all those cool rebel equipment payoffs from MOM/ONE
>>97058470This art makes it impossible to run this card.
I saw people building pic related as ninja tribal, and it seems pretty fun. A bit overstuffed, maybe, since you'd need ninjas + unblockable creatures + equipment and then synergies for the ninjas and equipments
>>97058475Its good because it encapsulates both the reactions people have playing against this deck and that I have playing the deck
>>97058381For his similarities to Kyler I've wanted to try Hancock as well. Kyler was always a favorite of mine. At least in mono black Hancock has access to Unspeakable Symbol which is kind of neat. Not a lot of other 1/1 options in mono black though so it would be rough trying to pile on the 1/1s without it.
>>97057923>clothed only with towelsThat's nothing. People at the beach are clothes only with bathing suits. If you don't count those, then they're practically naked!
>>97058529I guess I'd get this point but I don't think there are cards of 12 year olds in bikinis
>>97058518yo this are SICK, ninja!
>>97058550The towels are covering most of their bodies anon.
>>97058583yeah but they are naked under them
>>97058586so hot
>>97058316>minor spelling mistakeheh, as expected from a bluelet
>>97058586>tfw not considering that, under clothes, people are naked
>>97058316I'm at my most comfortable in blue, because for some inexplicable reason no one at my LGS runs interaction, and SOMEONE has to stop the local combo tranny from ending the game on turn 5.
>>97058470>card with exactly what I want comes out>it's UBaaaiiieeeee you can't make me fold I won't do it
>>97058637I feel you bro. stay strong
>>97058637It's approved UB. Go for it.
>>97058663>approved UBkys yourself
>>97058668No. Skubfaggotry is cringe and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>tfw you're the only person in your pod with cards printed more than 3 years ago.Feels old man.
>>97058637just proxy it with UW art then anon
>>97058685cool stop defending it then, you actual child
>>97058689this. allies are a thing in tarkir so just take some new unused art from it and name them scrimblo and bimblo
>>97058305>when I lose a few games in a row I get antsy and start scheming about how I can make it betterI knew that feel some time ago. what drives me now is finding budget replacements for expensive goodstuff whenever I win several games in a row. fuck shadowspear for being the only low cmc trample+lifelink equipment
>>97058685>UB is skubYou have no fucking clue what you are talking about, UB is an egregious encroachment on this game and is extremely well defined. Just because you slurp this slop up and don't like being made fun of for it, doesnt make it skub.
>>97058709cringe. I bet you wear a hat
>>97058715Absolutely no defense huh? I thought as much. Get pwned n00b
>>97058701>Reeee noooo you can't just run a heckin' cartoon character in my trading card game!This game hasn't had teeth since Eldraine and skubfaggotry is a sign of a newfag trying to fit in.Post your decklists rn.
>>97058730bassed
>97058722>This post is extremely low-quality
>>97058731>skubfaggotryYou literally don't understand what that even is, and it shows.
If it doesn't matter what the Scrimblo Bimblo on the card is, then why are people so quick to voice their opinion which UB they want next?
>>97058708Must I post the threadly reminder of the only good equipment ever printed? Do not run any other equipment, they are all ass.But, but, but, muh Sunforger! Go ahead run Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang in your bracket 1 kid.
>>97058740so I take it that you're anti-skub
>>97058742Because it does matter to some people? Duh?Those people are retarded just as you are
>>97058745>Sword of Hearth and Home has entered the chat
>>97058747xd my fellow memer! haha
>>97058750I'll be referencing this post when someone brings it up again, thanks
>>97058735not based, very cringe in fact. >well things suck so you should stop complainingis basically the worst consumertardism out there
>>97058778seethe
>>97058785>>well things suckThat's where you're wrong.
>>97058786why would I seethe, YOU are the dumbass lol
>>97057793This is for a single time, not a regular way of play.>>97058028Personal>>97058035kek
>>97058761>5 mana>does nothing>have to attack>have to deal combat damageIt's shit, go back to playing Pokemon kid. Might as well just be playing Bonesplitter too at that point.
>>97058740>>97058778>>97058793Still waiting on that decklist, tryhard
>>97058793anon being retarded is a choice you don't have to make
>>97058791if you actually think that, then why did you reply based the the post that said just the opposite?
>>97058781I don't think you ever really understood anything anon
>>97058801awww did I touch a nerve? poor baby!
>>97058528Thankfully it doesn't have to be 1/1s, it can be any counters. Pic related is my favorite piece in the deck, you can reveal it multiple times in a row from hand at instant speed on your turn and add counters to Hancock at a 1 to 1 ratio of black mana.
>>97058796>does nothing>have to attackIf you don't attack it at least stops an opponent's Path from hitting your commander.
>>97058800You never asked, schizoid.
>>97058806I think I touched a nerve actually if a joke sent you spiraling like this anon
>>97058802
>>97058814>>>97058730>Post your decklists rn.Nogames newfag
>>97058811>in response to you trying to attach your shit equipment I Path:^)I don't get why you are so scared of White. Is it because they have a counter spell that shits on your goober ass equipment?
Is banding still good in 2025?
>>97058845>>in response to you trying to attach your shit equipment I PathSame thing applies to Skullclamp retard.You can make up a scenario where any game action is undone and prevented, but the swords, even if you don't attack, still afterwards provide a passive uility.
>>97058848Sure, toss one of these in your deck and find out for yourself.
>>97058095That's embarrassing. Why does your lgs owner even let trannies in?
>>97058848It's good but it's balanced by needing to explain to a table of three mouthbreathers what banding is every time you use it.
>>97058791That should have had "this creature can't block any number of attacking creatures" instead.
>>97058859Skullclamp gives you your value back with drawing 2 fucking cards even if your opponent stops it from equipping the first time. Holy shit I'm not auguring anymore with a retard.
>>97058825I said" the" twice on accident. If you can't read around a small mistake like that, you are functionally illiterate. >>97058833I stand corrected. Here ya go. Your turn. Shitter.
>>97058870I don't see how it's hard. You as the controller of the banded creatures just gets to decide how to allocate damage amongst the banded instead of your opponent.It's really pretty simple.
>>97058709It's skub because you're getting mad about cardboard toys and the pictures on them.
>>97058730>some newfag just found out about skub and is using it repeatedly while calling everyone else newSAIEWSAIEW
>>97058870It's not my job to teach my opponents how the game they chose to play works.
>>97058809I forgot he counts all the counters just like Kyler. That does open things up and Tetzimoc is a cool tech piece to surprise with.
>>97058886You don't get two cards if your opponent swords the creature before you attach skull clamp.
>>97058886>your value back with drawing 2 fucking cards even if your opponent stops it from equipping the first time.You need an additional creature to do that. Skullclamp isn't bad, but to get value out of it you need a way to amass a lot of #/1 creatures, so it's not doing the heavy lifting on its own.>I'm not arguing anymoreYeah I can see why you'd want to back out.
>>97058906>>97058913I accept your concessions.
>>97058890>Mana Cryptlmaohttps://moxfield.com/decks/txUAk4KthEC80esALIrnYw
>>97058897Just because you can oversimply a thing until it seems meaningless doesn't make it skub, it just makes you an disingenuous asshat.
>>97058890>>97058900Malding newfag trying to damage control
>>97058931what? you actually listen the RC?
>>97058931nice now post it in paper
>>97058941>*sweating* W-what, you play by the r-r-rules or something!You're either a cheater trying to pubstomp or that pic is outdated and no longer applicable.
>>97058949My playgroup still plays with crypt idk what to tell you
>>97058945I'll post it when I get home after work in two and a half hours. The sleeves glare a lot, so I'm not going to get all of them in a visible pike, so how about you ask for five to twelve?
>>97058953Nice, maybe something good will come from this shitflinging after all
>>97058951You tell me "I play kitchen table" and then we wonder out loud why, if that's the group you're playing with, you're so insecure about running tie-ins.
>>97058967>insecuresome more of that classic projection right there. Sorry kid, UB sucks and i will keep reminding of that every day.
>>97058918I'm glad we established that you have no idea how the game works.
>>97058977>t. plays cards banned for power in an uninspired WG goodstuff pile for kitchen table groupsYour opinion is meaningless.
Man i wish UW was good enough to endure schizos sperging out every couple of days!
>>97058999Selvala is nothing like a goodstuff list. You literally know nothing loltalk about meaningless opinions
>>97055286>>97055293I like flinging him with Jarad.
>>97058890>then why did you reply based the post that said just the opposite?
>>97058931>joined 2025>4 decks>calling anyone else a newfag wew, that grixis list is so cookie cutter it hurts. Throw it in the trash with your two tribal decks.
>>97059018>True Conviction>Craterhoof>Vorenclex>Avenger of Zendinar in a deck where you're trying to ramp through mana dorksNope, not at all just a goodstuff beeg number deck.All sarcasm aside, that's uninspired. The Winter Orb is the only thing there that would catch my group by surprise. The only time I've seen a Selvala deck that made us go "holy shit this is a threat" barely ran any spells above 3 cmc.
>>97059032at least he isn't a cheater
>>97059024damn ur right the second "the" should be "to" which again should be obvious but I did fuck that up.
>>97059032I made that Moxfield account in 2025, yes.I can post some of the decks I haven't uploaded yet, though, when I get off work. You never asked how long I was playing, you asked for one of my decklists.It's painfully obviously you're malding and desperately trying to grasp at anything you can to validate not being a colossal retard.
>>97059034Craterhoof is a wincon, for the hatebears. Vernclex helps support the mana denial strategyAvenger is to bolster the eventual hoof and also pods into the hoof. The true conviction is the only card that doesn't really fit though sometimes helps wins board stalls.
>>97059034>barely ran any spells above 3 cmc.You make so much mana in this deck, you would be a fool to run an average cmc that low unless you were playing the untap combo variant.
>>97059044You are talking to multiple people btw>>97058890this is me>>97059032this is not
>>97059044>I made that Moxfield account in 2025, yeslol newfag>You never asked how long I was playingwe know how long you have been playing and its nowhere near long enough for that shitty ego of yours.
>>97059062Throwing a random Preator in your deck does not make its secondary effect your strategy unless you're trying to go for it every game, and there's a certain point where you don't really need to set up Avenger before Craterhoof.Here's my problem: you want to complain about UB being "slop," but the one deck you posted doesn't look like it has that much thought put behind it other than "number big," which anyone new to the game could figure out, and for being willing to cheat the game that deck wouldn't be powerful enough to do anything more than pubstomp some tables playing lower brackets. Unless I'm seeing wrong you have one boardwipe that costs 6 mana (so Teeg tells it to fuck off, not to mention that Austere Command is awkward with a lategame board), you have mana doublers for your lands but most of your ramp is through dorks, you have a single pop-off turn that needs to connect through combat damage... etc etc. All of these are issues that seem like they should be easy to catch and mitigate through experience playing the game, so where do you get off with shit like "Avatar doesn't ft in Magic" when you don't even seem like you know that Retribution of the Meek exists?
>>97059088>>97059099Samefag>>97059076Selvala draws cards through a mana ability. That's where the power lies.The deck ran a pile that focused on cheap spells that were included only to untap her, which made the deck very difficult to interact with, and because the guy just profited in mana so much by the time we drew half our decks, he only needed a couple of spells to start wiping us out.
>>97059099I've been playing since Future Sight (started with the BW Rebels precon), and I still haven't made an account on any of those deckbuilder websites.
>do thing, draw cardId hate it more of it wasnt for the fact it wasn't the only valid option 99% of the time.
>>97059196>casuals hate tutors so they run card draw>now they hate card draw tooLol
>friend who played mtg since 10 years introduces group to game>have lots of fun with demons, but no idea what I'm doing>friends run pretty effective decks>just pump my deck full of artifact removal and keep destroying everyone's sol rings and equipment>"bolas's citadel? you really want to cast that while he has 2 untapped lands?">several yeahrs later>two friends still run barely any artifacts because they got PTSD from my anti-artifact deckswell, what can I say, except for FUCK artifacts
>>97059211my nigga. I HATE how every new token is a fucking artifact too
>>97059124>Preatorboth are effective hate pieces and Vorinclex is winter orb #3 in this list. It is a core strategy. Literally look at the list.>there's a certain point where you don't really need to set up Avenger and that point is several turns after I would have won with avenger in most cases. That's why it's there. >you want to complain about UB being "slop"yeah cause it is attempting to launder good will from other IPs and shove it into this one which is completely unearned. >deck you posted doesn't look like it has that much thought put behind itwell that's where you are wrong. This deck is made for a specific meta, it's where my group's arms race ended which is why it sits exactly where it is a strong but not competitive deck. See the inclusion of dragonlord dromoka instead of grand abolisher. >pubstompI havent been able to play this deck in public since like 2015. Understandably nobody wants to play against it and when I play public games, I'd rather more casually. >boardwipes/Retribution of the MeekI also run elspeth. I like austere better, its more flexible and mana is not really a problem (unless with the teeg but if I have teeg out im in a winning position almost certainly) >you have mana doublers for your lands I have winter orb #3. >single pop off turnI also run the infect win, saffi combos and biorhythm shaman>where do you get off with shit like "Avatar doesn't ft in Magic" when you don't even seem like you know that Retribution of the Meek exists?this is such a ridiculous question I dont even know how to respond. You come off like a know it all but cant even properly dissect my deck and then have the gall to equate that to my (correct) opinions on ub? what a load of horseshit.
>play a non-card advantage commander>win seldom and when I do it's usually by a ball hair when one opponent was manascrewed>friend buys me a precon. it's do thing draw card>modify it a bit>I'm now unstoppableit's like dropping training weights
Somebody ring the bell for these losers and start a new thread already.
>>97059147>untap buildyeah I literally said that
Reminder that the people who complain about ub commanders not fitting the magic aesthetic are perfectly fine with racecars and spaceships in the command zone.
>>97059335reminder: putting words in other people's mouth is a fallacy
>>97059346He isn't wrong though.
>>97059335no, we weren't
>>97059335There wasn't anything wrong with race cars or spaceships.
>People buzzing about how griselbrand wouldn't even be good in edh now>Someone pipes up that mairsil would be really busted with it>Point out that Mairsil isnt paying 8 mana for griselbrand, she's paying 4 tops>Get a sperg response about how that isnt what mairsil does
>>97059357in my case he is. which means that in totality he is
>>97059363like on reddit or something? thats what you get lol
>>97059301>>play a non-card advantage commander>>win seldomjust wait till you come back to that deck with the knowledge you got from your boring CA commander. That's when the real fun begins.
>>97059372worse, x, the everything app
>>97059384I've never had the displeasure but I have been shown some edh youtube shortsis it basically the same shit?
>>97059301>rograkh has no card draw>yet he's a pillar of cedhThere's more to being a commander than being a source of card draw, you just dont know how to build decks
>>97059298>It is a core strategy. Literally look at the list.It's card 3. Talk to me when you have double that because it seems like an incidental feature more than anything.>and that point is several turns after I would have won with avenger in most casesSo you're gameplan is to cast Craterhoof after you won with Avenger? I really don't understand the reasoning here beyond "big numbers get bigger." Fine and fair if that's all there is to it, not every deck needs to sweat, but that's too casual to warrant, if I may quote an anon I still suspect is you, "that shitty ego of yours," all of that withholding that you're cheating with that Mana Crypt and still trying mana denial, so I don't even know how far that excuse goes.>which is completely unearned.You would have a point for adaptations that are unfaithful.Here's the way I see it - IPs that thematically fit in with Magic's universe and have unique enough of a mechanical identity that directly ties to the source material get a pass. Spongebob fails both criteria. Spider-Man fails as well. Final Fantasy and Avatar both get a pass since all of their settings are high fantasy and expect some emotional maturity from their audience. They get a pass if they earn it.>which is why it sits exactly where it is a strong but not competitive deck.Once you get to the level where you're playing Winter Orb and Mana Crypt, that excuse is no longer valid.>I havent been able to play this deck in public since like 2015Then why was that your first choice of what to grab?>Infect winI noticed the Triumph and didn't mention it because it needs at least 30 power and evasion to actually kill a table. If your opponents let you get that far with that pile of dorks, you've either made your burst with Craterhoof or they're asleep.The combo, though, I will grant that I missed at first glance.
>>97059390I'm not gonna lie to you outside of klug posting his latest alter, mtg twitter is extremely bleak. Just trannies and talking heads bleating about the latest issue which none of them made and none of them had any real opinion on before someone talked about it
>>97059397ah yes, the famous mono red solo rograkh cedh
>>97059460>yes silas is totally cast from the command zone fr fr
What are some good lesser known old-school white cards? Pre-Masques block only please
>>97059499rhystic shitty
>>97059499Preacher and Debt of Loyalty are both mono-W theft effects.
>>97059419>incidental feature 3 cards with a bunch of tutors. I see land disruption every game. Hell I cut the ravages because I didn't need it (I was proxying it).>So you're gameplan is to cast Craterhoof after you won with Avenger? the avenger helps push the craterhoof up several turns by creating more bodies very quickly. Like last night when I saffi'd my avenger then pod'd my avenger into a hoof I only had 5 lands out but those 11 bodies were what ultimately won the game.> IPs that thematically fit in with Magic's universe and have unique enough of a mechanical identity that directly ties to the source material get a pass.I whole heartedly disagree, my attraction to this game came from aethetics first and gameplay second. I like the magic universe and do not want to interact with non-magic IP even if it is more thematically appropriate. It would be foolish of me to say there isnt a scale though and to that point FF and LOTR are basically the pinnacle. WH and AC does not fit for me at all despite on paper being compatible and clearly WOTC is going far and beyond that when choosing IP. This is ending with fewer MTG products and more concessions to the way they make product in favor of UB, such as hybrid mana and a other issues with adapting the color pie. >Once you get to the level where you're playing Winter Orb and Mana Crypt, that excuse is no longer valid.I don't really care about what you think is valid. Up until 15 months ago you would have no leg to stand on, and anything the RC says about the format is for pub games>Then why was that your first choice of what to grab?It's a cool deck. I like fighting against the CA it gives your opponents. >I noticed the Triumph and didn't mention it because it needs at least 30 power Its certainly more niche but 30 power isnt the hardest thing to come by my overall P/T is high enough, it gives trample, I have the mirror entity. It gets wins, even if it only gets 2 players and I have to go back for seconds.
>>97059302bump
>>97059547did you know bump is an acronym? BumpUpMy Post
it's always weird when I'm going through a bulk bin and see an insane staple of the past like thieving magpie and go oh yeah that's shit now and pass by
>>97059547Good job bumping a max post reached thread dummy.
>>97059562>threw out my bulk 2 months ago>constantly looking for multiple copies of bulk cards damn, I mean I needed the space really bad but that move easily cost me $100 if not more.
>aw man, your deck is really making me struggle. I really need to get [card] or I'm toast. Gosh golly gee. I need to top deck [card]. Would you look at that, I top decked [card] the first turn after I made a big fucking deal that I needed to get it!Cheaters should be more subtle.
>>97059562Not my problem, I play PreDH.
>>97059588I've always hated this card, even back in like 2012 I was telling people it was shitI am vindicated in the current eraI would unironically rather run a Pilgrim's Eye or a Journeyer's Kite, the 4th mana is such a killer
>>97059579>was holding onto the nuts for a few turns to slow roll it>draw into a land>shuffle my hand, flick my cards a bit and act like I topped decked the nuts>pod of tards goes into another melty>MFW
Won both matches at today's commander event and pulled this chocobo in my signup pack, very nice day :3
>>97059607>holding on to the nut draw>hey guys uh I play this card in my deck you better prepare>I mean it>ok here I go>they act like I just topped decked it >anon how do you always draw what you need?!
>>97059588
>>97059579>does your guy have tramp/evasion >no not uet>what do you mean not yet>it means it might get it later, but doesn't now>give it trample next turn>what the fuck how did you know you were going to get thatthats you, not understanding deck building and how to manage your cards
>>97059660That's not even close to being the same. Saying you could give something a keyward with any number of cards is not the same as "getting a miracle topdeck" for a 1/99 chance.Dumbass.
>>97059681Are you the same mouth breather who runs equipment?
>>97058904Pair with an anvil of Bogardan to create a net zero draw state for everyone
>>97059693>No actual rebuttal Concession accepted dumbass.
>>97059499
>>97059536>3 cards with a bunch of tutorsAnon, how many of those tutors can fetch a Winter Orb?>by creating more bodies very quickly."Very quickly" in loose terms there...Here's what gets me. You're running a seven drop to feed into your Craterhoof. Sure. Whatever. That's still a shitload of mana that you're spending to build an easily-disruptable board state that requires your opponents be willing to let you even get to that point.Let me pull an example from a casual deck I run that's probably close to that. Unnatural Growth and Moraug, Fury of Akoum in Omnath, Lotus of Rage. Yes, each card is expensive, and getting both out is Christmasland, but they're strong enough with the deck on their own to warrant running them both - the overwhelming presence both can bring together is just an incidental bonus, not a gameplan. That's the type of thing I'm talking about - each piece should pull its weight with some other function if your combo is that disruptable and expensive.Just for the sake of argument, what does True Conviction + Avenger really docor you that a Staff of Domination and Imperious Perfect/Presence of Gond wouldn't?>my attraction to this game came from aethetics firstI repeat, this game lost its teeth in Eldraine, and your commander's from a set released under two months within Kaladesh. (How did you discontinue playing this deck in 2015!?!)>This is ending with fewer MTG productsDo you have any numbers behind this, because I am genuinely curious as the release timeframe for expansions now is completely insane compared to something like 2012's.>You don't really care about what you think is validWhat I say is valid because I'm not playing a card that was banned for being too powerful in this format, then saying my deck isn't meant to be high power you stupid faggot. Even before the ban I would have said you're a faggot for saying that while running those two.>It gets wins,It genuinely sounds like your table is lower power.
>>97059681do you only run one board wipe in your deck
>>97058848Yes, though it doesn't do much of anything against go wide which is infinitely better than voltron or just tall creatures in general.
>>97059714>Named an exact card>Not a type of cardAnother false equivalent from a dumbass
>>97059714Not him but yes, others can clutter up their decks with those dead draws.
>>97059619He's pretty cute for a war criminal
Holy smokes that card is ass.
>>97059743Smoke ass that card is holy
>>97059707>>97059743
I kind of want to build this deck because I love the art and have fond memories of OG Eldraine standard, but is there a lack of choice in a deck with a strong theme that covers a very limited amount of cards like this? There doesn't seem to be a ton of choice involved. I have fewer options than joke tribes like Minotaur.Like I'm sure it's good, but is this kind of obvious synergy commander with a limited cardpool fun to build or play?
>>97059723>not running redundant cards>being so smug about being a midwit that the chances are closer to 1/50-80 based on the scenario describedu r a faget, throw on a trip so you can be filtered.
>>97059499Here you go. This card is technically a common now.
>>97059771>If I completely ignore the exact scenario, and change it around, I'm right!Double dumbass.
>>97058962>>97058945
>>97059798Equipment Anon is not having a good day today.
>>97059819I once again, accept your concession.No matter how you spin an L, you can't make it into a W.
>>97059709>Anon, how many of those tutors can fetch a Winter Orb?1 can fetch winter orb, I got 5 that can get hokori and a majority of those can get vorenclex as well. hell I can pod my commander into hokori if I want to. I've got enough card draw to get there every game.>"Very quickly" in loose terms there...By quick I mean explosive. These games are not short though. The other decks in the meta are also playing a lot of hate and stax pieces. My friends zergo deck especially. >I repeat, [[stupid opinion]]I liked the art in both Eldraine sets and Bloomburrow personally. There are more good things to come, I am sure. I am generally skeptical of Lorwyn though. >your commander's from a set released under two months within Kaladesh. (How did you discontinue playing this deck in 2015!?!)IDK what kind of esl shit this is but Kaledesh was released in 2016, conspiracy 1 was 2014.Armageddon was not looked fondly upon and I didn't want to cut it. So into the no-pub zone it went. >Do you have any numbers behind thisanon we are getting 3 mtg in universe sets next year >buncha bullshit that isnt even worth readingIt's like you have zero imagination man, you really need to expand your deck building and exposure to mtg. Every single one of your conclusions is obviously rash, mostly wrong and backed by only the narrowest of high powered experiences.
>>97059806Nice carpet. Too poor for a playmat?
>>97059806dope, thanks for coming through.
>>97059693>>97059819This anon got buck broken by the Dogmeat precon
>>97059846Yes. I own a Wheel of Fortune but a $20 playmat is too much.
>>97059681>>97059693I love eqipment. It's so much fun to use, and the swords give you a lot of value and protection.
New thread when?
>>97059893Whenever I feel like itI'm the threadstartathe twista threadstarta
>>97059893Just for you Anon.>>97059938>>97059938>>97059938
>>97059768I think you more or less guessed what is going to be the problem with her. If you want to take advantage of her effect you need to focus, or at leats run a decent amount, of a limited card type. Adventures. Thankfully we have been getting a couple here and there but the pool is limited.
