The first one went... well enough, so let's try this again. Talk about weird monsters and don't feed the trolls.(Any accusations about Bog will be considered trolling unless the poster has actual proof.)
In the slim case that Bog visits again, I have a question:When it comes to designing monsters, what was the general ratio of points:endurance? Curious to know for my nogames ahh homebrew.
>>97061171Cool monster
Bogleech paid me to fuck his wife but insisted I strap plastic bugs to my limbs and screech like a Godzilla monster. They both smelled really bad and he tried to get validation from teenagers on his forum about it afterward. Unfortunately he deleted the thread, but I have the itchy warts as proof of the first part.
>>97061186not bog, but i know this one - when creating a monster as a player you can add endurance up to 10 + your respectability, with each point adding onto the data cost. the max amount of points in monster dev a base character can have is 8 at respectability 1, so at 8 points a wild monster is built with 11 endurance to play with (outside endure blocks or weaknesses). for each point you add or subtract from the total you also add an endurance point and it should end up in line w the book monsters balance wise.
>"if people who mysteriously don't like me for no reason just talked to me I'd be open to dialogue, I don't hold grudges!!">"fuck those fucking faggots who bullied me and that I DIDNT EVER BULLY EVER wow they sure got PWNED on 4chan of all places and im SO not mad!"Doing a great job of showing it bog.
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>>97062108Can you fuckin give it a rest dude
Biogarbage is one of my favourite classes, I love these wretched little bastards.
>>97062448The schnoze
>>97062476Demonic Hellbeast
>>97062448How are you even supposed to play them in practice? Don't they start at absolutely horrible stats and then the next scanner goal is like 25 or something? Just use the garbage demi-shade until then?
>>97062641They're basically the Magikarps of the world, incredibly weak, but with enough investment can be turned into powerful Diregarbage
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>>97062910One of my favourites
>>97062913
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>>97062641All the pre-made biogarbage follow that trend besides the Dire Garbage but if you're making your own guy biogarbage are more glass cannons with crazy ability relative to their stats but with huge glaring weaknesses.
terrible art, terrible game, dull designer
>>97063918Or in simple terms, they're just funky little guys
>>97062641Their class gimmick is that instead of the default weakness limit of "half base points", they can and must have weaknesses equal to their point total, effectively giving them twice the points but with a lot of drawbacks,
I’m surprised with all the little nods to lesser known Ultraman monsters there’s no gargantuan kaiju faction. You’d think a planet that’s just a sprawling city would inspire the artist to make some classic man-in-a-suit looking goofy creatures. Especially in a game about monsters. The destruction could work in the same way as an ecosystem after a flood or forest fire I see there’s a few big guys but I just thought it would be really cool
Is there a place to buy a physical book? I can’t find this anywhere
>>97062502I have not read berserk. Is it actually about monsters like this or is it more generic Japanese slop?
>>97067053There was a limited physical release so not right now, but according to bog he's planning to open up orders again early 2026.
>>97067108I know he’s more of a liberal guy but I think he’d benefit from going on X to try and mingle with other artists. Not sure if he can handle being on there without losing his shit though. I honestly wish him the best, the game looks cool.
I really love Guilloteeth. Can someone post the art of Guilloteeth from the book? I want to see my beautiful baby boy.
another guy, i don't have a block for thermalunk yetSmoldronLarge Bioconstruct, Brawn 12/Brain 3, Scan 30Head: Heat-Resistant: [RESIST 3d10 thermal] E3Left Arm: Fire Production: [ASSIST 2d10 activities that need a heat source] E2Right Arm Flaming Blast: [DAMAGE 2d10 thermal/brawn] [CLEAVE burst, line (cone)] [REACH 1] E2Body: Living Radiator: [DAMAGE 1d10 thermal] [EMANATE] E5Legs: Toddle: [MOVE land] E3Quirk: “Praise the Sun”
>>97067401sadly Guilloteeth didn't make the cut, you may like Seagor (picrel) tho
>>97067462what do you mean it didnt make the cut
>>97067500Bog has tsated there are several monsters who aren't in the current release. They might end up getting put into the book post-public release but that won't be for a while.
Prove you're not a shill and provide a mega of the PDF. I'm not paying that much to read some overcooked rule book
>>97067536Didn’t you get the hint last thread? Go stalk a woman like a normal human you fucking deject
>>97067137Bog was banned from X because he literally fedposted about him wanting to shred elon musk face with a lawnmower..Mind you this isn't the only site where he got banned for such behavour
>>97067644Not his stalker schizo(s) anon. Made a spelling error - that's all. If I were bobi, or the other two, I'd have been throwing out a lot more political diatribe and seething over Bog for "not living up to his promises" or whatever the fuck those morons have been saying over on kiwifarms.
Can someone post a short example of combat in play? The stat blocks look confusing and I don't want to fork over 40bux for a game none of my normie roll20 friends are going to wrap their heads around.
>>97067730I understand but at this point in time it’s honestly kind of pearl clutching. If anyone else from 4chan got banned for saying politicians should be hung, which they do all the time, they’d be called based. Which they are. All politicians deserve to be gassed. The negative reaction is just because of a handful of people that don’t like him, though bogleech does seem to pick a lot of fights. The fact that he’s come to post here and said he doesn’t want politics to infect his work honestly make him pretty respectable. Most others just avoid the question (or 4chan) because they don’t want to be harassed by closed minded people
>>97067910seconded
>>97062038Nice try but I would never let some rando touch my rare and valuable rubber bugs.>>97063972Do you have suggestions for things you would like me to add then? :)>>97067030Fuckoff-huge monsters are an idea I want to have, but not sure how well they'd playtest. I mean like so big, all the players might kind of "crew" them like a mecha. Maybe it'd use the lair rules.>>97067053I've run out of physical copies for now, will have more printed in January-February. It's a lot of work packing and shipping them myself, but it means the revenue doesn't get reamed by Amazon or others.
>>97067500Well there ARE nearly 1,000 canon monsters. Going to try and release monthly statblocks on patreon, and periodically compile them as free appendix pdf's, then we hope to do a 200-300 page all-bestiary book in the future.>>97067730I'd do it again>>97067910I'd like if we could release maybe a condensed rules document someday, but that would be up to the system's original devs who still own it and get to decide how I distribute it. They are still very reclusive and mysterious to me, it's still kind of a puzzling situation for me but they did deliver and I intend to uphold my end of all professional promises to them
>>97061171Well enough is a…very optimistic recollection and I’m very surprised there’s a second attempt, but I’m game if you are. Opinion on which devilbird is the strongest, and most worth investing modifications into for minmaxing’s sake? I’m almost certain it’s Gluttony. Mainly because they all drive people crazy but only Gluttony heals off it. Also how exactly does Lust’s respawn work? It sounds like it should be an instantkill on anyone infected but unless I’m misreading something, I don’t see it represented mechanically.
>>97069500Oh hey, you. Didn’t know you came around to these parts.>Do you have suggestionsNot him but I hope that the Ultimates and more advanced Devilbirds get added in at some point. If only as part of an Epic Beastiary-style supplement. Especially Mephiles as a punchline to raising all the dang things.Oh, and Dolfuries of course. Mainly because it would confirm my suspicion Mortasheen takes place in Awful Hospital, right at the edge of the Grey Zone where it interacts with the rest of the Perception Range.
>>97069564Excluding the advanced Devilbirds, I'd assume Lust is one of the strongest considering it is one of the fastest of the base Devilbirds. If I remember correctly.Speaking of Devipbirds, I'd like to see some of these designs an Anon brought up last thread to be reworked as either Devilbirds (The bird ones obviously) or Zomboids (Similar to Abnortis/Oovule, with an incomplete and perfect form)
>>97069726>LustGoddammit, the power of DEX strikes again. I got into this game hoping to escape eternal DEX supremacy, is that really all it takes? Being the fastest? I just really like Wrath and it's a slowpoke among slowpokes.>monstergirl mermaidIf I had any faith in modern /tg/ I'd be hopeful. Kind of funny how there's only one thing even resembling a monstergirl in the game and it's one of the more aggressively predatory NPCs
>>97069500>>97069554>posting style inherently different from previous thread>different spacing>different name as if bog would bother with a trip>mass replies with single sentences instead of single posts giving lengthy autistic replies>vaguely abrasive behaviour, replying to obvious troll postsUhuh>>97069588Anon thats is almost 100% not bog
>>97069916>checks archivesYeah he last posted with a name in 2014, fool me once I guess.
>>97069926No he was in a previous thread under the name Boglitch or something like that, closer to the end, even posted an unused concept art >>97059921But that anon above is obviously not the same poster
>>97069916He posted on tumblr about those same 4 chan post today. I'm not sure but that a hint that it's may be definitely by him. The other 'bogleech' in the older thread was contently shitposting and mentioned his pseudo wasn't registered so anyone could post it as him
>>97069554I choose to believe this is Bogleech solely out of naive hope for more Guilloteeth some time this decade.
>>97069898>Kind of funny how there's only one thing even resembling a monstergirl in the game and it's one of the more aggressively predatory NPCsWell to be fair Mortasheens does have a few "waifumons", such as Disembelle, revamped Belladona and Lascivenus, although the most palatable/normie friendly is probably Mothstrous, which is also in the book if I remember.And to be fair even if Mortasheen doesn't have regular waifus, you can probably just create them in your lab.
>>97061171I have some general questions regarding 'monster trainer' games. I only looked into a pokemon rpg book once and was a bit overwhelmed.How big is an optimal play group for these games? Since everyone plays something what would be a summoner in other games, I assume that such games might easily slow down.How large is a players party, spefically in mortasheen?How can I imagine actual play? Is there a group of player characters runnig around with a day cares worth of monsters?
>>97071245Looks like it’s playable and fine with one two or three players outside of the game master
>>97069588Bonnie won't let me forget about any monsters, wants to stat every single one I've ever made and already got over halfway there before even being hired (hence being hired)>>97069726We have an idea for an entirely new monster class where reworks of these would fit better, concept is a class that exist only as telepathic thought (like an infectious AI using networks of real brains as its server) but appears to hosts in an illusion form and can build a physical one possibly>>97069564When a monster has a parasitoid life cycle that isn't in the mechanics, it's because it takes too long (like any more natural life cycle) to be wielded in battle, so it would only really come up as a storyline detail, or if it does happen mid-battle that'd be the dm/proctor using it as a surprise miniboss>>97069916see attached, decided to be quicker with answers and to make a temp name anons couldn't confuse people with>>97069898Balance is supposed to be the hardest thing to maintain in a game like this (and I do want to encourage some sort of "combat metagame" like Pokemon has, maybe someday try to have some simple software made for it??) but our goal is that any team you want to build should be able to win with a mix of thoughtful strategy and the chaos mechanics. The point system means just one Devilbird would eat up a lot of your team space and they're mostly support monsters, so the idea is you can get away with maybe one or two of them on the field to back up a handful of your other good monsters or a whole lot of little ones.
>>97071245As few as two players can work, three to four seems to be the most comfortable for a lot of playtesters but I know there's been bigger groups who still enjoyed it. Its action economy was designed to avoid that slowdown which was apparently the biggest complaint against tabletop monster-trainer attempts before Mortasheen started.We also have the concept of "teletethering" (temporary teleportation, like a spatial displacement that snaps back once it's shut off) so you don't have to bring all your monsters with you at once, but most players keep their main assistant monster with them by default and maybe another favorite or two
oh yeah here's the developmental sketches of the monster OP posted. I still like the lower right one a lot, it was a toss-up for the final art
>>97072394oh I guess upper right, thanks windows for the weird discrepancies in picture orientation I guess
bogleech, are there any monsters that are notably more or less popular than you expected?
>>97072274>We have an idea for an entirely new monster class where reworks of these would fit better, concept is a class that exist only as telepathic thought (like an infectious AI using networks of real brains as its server) but appears to hosts in an illusion form and can build a physical one possiblyOh, now that sounds cool, kind of like a Tulpa, a living thought that could potentially make itself a body. I image the illusion would appear "nicer"/more angelic to look at while any physical body they try and make would be like meat, metal and such stitched together into a more monstrous form in an attempt to make itself a body befitting what it wants to be.
>>97072502Yeah, since the "illusion" forms aren't limited by any physical logic my new designs for them so far have a lot of independently floating pieces and dream-weirdness, but when they manifest physically they might have to make those things from whatever they can grab and floaty bits get tethered together by ooze. Here are two doodles both based on much older defunct monsters, in fact all my sketches for what we're calling "Pstalkers" so far are new takes on older monsters that otherwise didn't make as much sense as biological species.
bonus Belladonna development, unfortunately I still don't have the hang of retaining the same "soul" from sketch to final version which
She pstalk on my morta 'till I sheen
>>97072667*which I realize is the problem everyone in the world has with drawing, I know
>>97072667They look kinda rusty. Is that actual rust or something else? If I poured white vinegar on them to remove said rust would they become shiny Mortasheen (exactly the same stats but with a 1/69420 chance to replace regular ones in random encounters)?
>>97072640The fella on the left reminds me of Goza, I assume that's what it's reworked from. It's body looks like it's "unscrewed", so I could imagine if it made itself a body it'd look like Goza but it's limbs are attatched as if with screws.The one on the left kind of vaguely reminds me of Pooka from into the dark in terms of design. I've never actually watched it but I've seen the design and it stuck with me.
>>97067075>I have not read berserk. Is it actually about monsters like this or is it more generic Japanese slop?This is just a (neutral?) monster that appears in the background of a scene. Like some kinda corrupted wild life.In terms of fantasy, a lot of its aesthetics are european themed. It's not slop at all, and it's not solely focused on the monsters either (though Miura put a lot of work into drawing some pages).
Dropping in to say that I really like this fella in particular
>>97072838My man
>>97072733They constantly oxidize but it's a healthy process of their biology so they can steadily replenish their shells, like how we constantly shed our older skin cells>monstergirl mermaid If I had any faith in modern /tg/ I'd be hopeful. Kind of funny how there's only one thing even resembling a monstergirl in the game and it's one of the more aggressively predatory NPCsWe do have female or feminine characters of every biotype but I get you mean that the mermaid is the least humanoid and most feral. There'll be plenty more to come because who doesn't like monstitties??? This was actually the second design, the first was made 15 or 16 years earlier as nameless filler art. Bonnie vouched for bigger boobs but I feel like they're adequate!!
>>97072911The mutated feet as the tail of the fish half is a nice touch
How feasible is the idea of genetically modifying your monsters until they’re all cute monstergirls?
>>97067075Berserk is overflowing with so many monsters there can be a couple hundred designs in a single chapter, mostly as background filler but meticulously maddeningly detailed. Most of them are not funny little guys however, most of them are this kind of stuff; it explains a lot that he was exactly six years old when Devilman premiered
>>97067401Forgot to say, Guilloteeth was one of the other couple hundred considered for Book 1 so will most definitely get an update for the first big bestiary book
>>97072932Anything can be a cute monstergirl if you try hard enough
>>97072958imagine any given monstrosity in any given media getting flustered with a cute anime girl voice and you may learn new things about yourself B')
>>97072733>>97072911There was also the moth which is honestly surprisingly doesn't have any conventionally "icky" elements. Also Harlequeen of you're a badass dude enough, it cute
>>97072978>A-anon-kun.....
You mentioned before that Vaccuthax was going to be reworked into a truly "Unknown" class, is there any other monster joining it? The meteor trio feel like good candidates
>>97072958>limb sockets are actually "mixed up" and terminate with different appendagesCool touch and I was already meaning to steal that for my miniature conversions/sculpting, hehe
>>97073002this was a little joke on an extremely old adage that goes "butterflies are beautiful, but moths are monstrous," contrasting the butterfly mortasheen looking as off-putting as I could come up with at the time.People still thought moths were grosser even when I was a kid but now they're everywhere as a go-to cute animal, which is cool. The extra twist of course is that people of the Mortasheen world still consider the fluffy furry-esque Mothstrous to be the gross one.The butterfly (blighterfly) doesn't quite work by my current design rules for Arthropoids but I have some ideas for it that preserve some of the "ugliness" while looking more Arthropody and "scary."This was one attempt but some folks might miss the old design so maybe I'll still find a compromise.
>>97073123Lovely, reminds me of Garden of Eyes mob from Bloodborne, don't rightly recall of you covered that one
>>97072911The design on the left reminds me that I once saw porn with starros (a DC character) on someone's boobs (I think it was power girl). Starro is basically a psychic alien starfish with an eye.
I liked awful hospital so I might buy this game eventually.>>97072946>Berserk is overflowing with so many monsters there can be a couple hundred designs in a single chapter, mostly as background filler but meticulously maddeningly detailed. Most of them are not funny little guys however, most of them are this kind of stuff; it explains a lot that he was exactly six years old when Devilman premieredI think miura took inspiration from other stuff as well. I don't remember what exactly though.I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Bosch was one of them.
>>97069500If you wanted an idea how to do huge monsters, D20 modern has some rules for piloting mecha and collateral damage. Please do kaiju. You’re the only guy who paints them goofy like a rubber suit
Am I misremembering or wasn’t there some kind of talk at one point of an area in the wider Mortasheen world where there are kaiju and giant robots that fight them?
>>97072838A silly little goober.
Okay Bog, but what would I have to do to build HER in the Mortasheen system?
>>97072274>Bonnie won't let me forget about any monsters, wants to stat every single one I've ever made and already got over halfway there before even being hired (hence being hired)BASED Bonnie.>it takes too longAh, fair enough. I’ve spent way too much of my life squinting at the heartbird’s statblock wondering which of it’s abilities is meant to be an abstraction for the respawn. I also now have a terrible urge to make one of the modifications to it being functionally a mechanically relevant cardiovascular respawn.>>97073672Are you perhaps thinking about Medama? Disc-shaped retrohuman settlement that deploys giant robots to fend off monsters. >>97073771She’s the Proctor.
>>97072838SNOITOMORP
>>97072838I can imagine this guy having a Zach Hadel voice
>>97073639Personally I'd like to see more Kaijin-esque designs, like in Kamen Rider and Super Sentai/Power Rangers.I mean we already have a Kamen Rider monster.
>>97073123That Blighterfly looks like it'd eat the older ones for lunch
>>97069500lucario is a good pokemon actually. he is cool and loyal and shaped like a friend. you are just a contrarian.
Its almost afternoon and I just finished my cawfee, I had a dream about a thing that was probably influenced by this. Feel free to discard it as a play pretend LARP but it wasn't, dont have anywhere else but this website to post it I guess:It emerged from the head/skull of a plastic anatomical dummy in a pretty disturbing kaleidoscopic larva-emerges-from-larva-emerges-from-another-larva succession, although it wasn't a chain since the preceding larva were disintegrating/shrinking into nothing really so there ever only were 1.5 "on the screen" at a timeI instinctively tried to stomp it out of fear but popup text reminded me that its bite can inflict permanent coma/sleep, 333 years in insects and 1000 years in humans. There was some other info but it struck me as useless chaff/flood meant for confusionMy attention was then drawn to a number of vertical shelves where its elements were in demonstration: two were coloured like normal insect-type stuff, brown and light termite yellow, one was bright emerald with patterns and one had 3E Hive Fleet Behemoth esque schemeThey then voltron'd into an ouroboros of sorts trying to dig into each other thoraxes? I couldn't depict it properly but it was more like invading/inserting each other rather than eating/consumingThey/it insisted heavily on being a type of brain fluke which seemed bullshit to me and we argued for a bitAlso they had a giant collection of plastic LotR toys/miniatures like a whole table of siege of Minas Tirith with an absolutely towering sculpture/toy of Super Sentai Sauron Spirit-Bombing His Own Eye at which point I asked it what the fuck that was and it squeked out something to laugh it off, also pretending/insisting to be my dad?(after that my dream shifted away from the scene and I woke up)What disingenuous Illusion-type ahh fuck you
>>97081425Ah, the classic larvaboros dad bit. Oldest trick in the bookIf they bite you that's just yRMVNou getting grounded.
>>97081594Ignore my dumbass accidentally putting the captcha there and then wondering why it wasn't in the captcha box.
>>97069500>Fuckoff-huge monsters are an idea I want to have, but not sure how well they'd playtest. I mean like so big, all the players might kind of "crew" them like a mecha. Maybe it'd use the lair rules.Could go the combining route and have a bunch of different giant monsters that have different bonuses depending on whether you use them as an arm/leg/head.
What is this thread about anyway?
>>97082328Monsters mostly
>>97082328A new monster training TTRPG. Mad science-themed. This thing is there.
>>97061171Isn't this guy a known pedophile? I remember reading an article about him getting caught sending dick pics to an twelve year old girl some years back but he said he dodn't know her real age.
>>97082750sauce?
>>97082750lol no
>>97082750
>>97082750Here's a (You) Anon, next time get better baitAlso here's fitting monster for a bait pot
I'm surprised we've gone this long without a single person expressing that they want to fuck the creatures.
>>97083121are you telling me that this thing has a nutsack just hanging there
>>97084108The law of 4chan, if there is anything that is at least vaguely feminine an anon will want to fuck it
>>97084305>he's fooledlol!
>>97084421fuckgive it to me straight doc is it terminal
>>97085213the whole thing is just the lure of an unseen extradimensional monster that makes things hate it with irrational intensityif you eat it your brain crystallizes and turns into an angelsnipe egg
>>97085304so balls bobber over here reproduces by being eateni see how it is.and despite it all, i was no better than a fish.
>>97083121One of my favourite monsters probably
>>97087119Yeah, the Warped/Unknowns are really neat
>>97073639I'd like to see a Shrewmorgue that managed to make a fuckhuge Kaiju body as a Boss for a game using these
>>97087174I always imagined these things as more pallid than ruddy.
>>97087174HOTDOGARMS
>>97090405emphasis on hot
Did anyone have a chance to actually play this yet?
New Monster stat block posted by Bog
>>97092687Obligatory image
>>97090118I always thought they were more silver
Slayercake is my new fave from the book I think.
>>97082750If this wasn't bait you may just be mixing him up with someone else, because he's never been big enough in any community to have articles or blog posts about him. Just the occasional tumblr fight where he calls someone a dumb bitch and they try to frame that as being psychologically abusive, so tumblr being tumblr.
>>97092687>>97092690I think a synapse just fired. I somehow didn't notice or somehow glossed over the parts part of the stat block. Is it the case that you could swap this guy's cuticle part for that guy's if you wanted? If so that's really cool and you now have my attention.
>>97098188of course i forgot the image.
>>97098188Oh it's even better than that. You CAN just rip a part off a monster and stick/swap it onto another (and it's cheaper to do that cause then you do already have that part on hand)... But the system's entire point is how MODULAR it is.Every single ability of every single part of every single monster can be modified, the blocks can be rearranged, added or subtracted to, and combined in all manners of ways to make funky flavorful abilities, and the kicker is, it would be expected of the dm to do so if they want to make homebrewed monsters... But it's allowed for and expected from the players to also do this as they improve their little guys or create new ones wholesale. It's fuckin amazing.
