Rotbringer Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97056894>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>TQAny armies you’re considering starting or dipping your toes into and why?
>TQPotentially daughters of khaine depending on their new range. I’d opt for lumineth instead but painting the faces, especially the helmeted ones, seem like a pain. I fucking love vanari and the river blades though.
>>97063451Retard this isn't /waosg/
>>97063466Is the joke that they share a faction keyword?>>97063483One of the earlier articles mentioned that the Everspring is especially potent and that drinking from it was a very rare privilege. Inara is plausibly one of the lucky few.
>>97063468DoK have so much potential but they just like Idoneth seem stuck in this loop of never receiving a actual second wave.
>>97063589Get a grip on reality, nobody loves DoK, you gooner fuckwit. Your Plebbit sub just got nuked.DoK will not survive into 5ed.
>>97063613>seething redditor you have to go back
>>97063451The only armies I'm interested in are CoS but only if the foot knights and gargant kits are good.I dont know what to expect from the new dwarfs kits so my interest depends on their design.
>>97063613Anon, why so harsh?Daughters of Khaine are cool. You dislike them, fine. No need to get all that upset.
>attendance at all events near me down by 50% compared to last yearhow did 4th ed fuck things up so hard
>>97063589they're supposed to get a bigger wave than idk got supposedly. one with a dual kit
Redpill me on BoK. I heard they’re a big Timmy army now and I’m looking to branch out to 2nd collection outside of Nurgle. I got some gitz and an IJ spearhead but IJ models aren’t quite it for me and I don’t want to own/transport a loonshrine in a horde faction.I painted 80% the khorne spearhead and I wouldn’t mind painting even more blood warriors but the Skullreapers are gonna need to be proxied with chosen or something cause that kit is kinda derpy
>>97063627It's pretty simple: Boring things are boring.
>TQEither cherry blossom sylvaneth or a Shyish CoS where half the models are skeletons
>>97063631NTA but that is a hilarious sentence. They will get one kit with dual options. When you realize other factions are getting quite large waves and Daughters get ond FUCKING kit.
How credible were the recent Bonereaper leaks?I am siked to get new bonereaper units but im pessimistic and got the feelings its going to be a pity hero
>>97063644Anon I have good news for you. Bok can be easy as hell to transport with its two army of renown’s. One will let you play 4-6 blood thirsters + skarbrand, the other lets you play like 21 hero’s. The latter can be turned into a fun kitbash project.
>>97063654Well I didn’t say they were only getting one kit. Just that the only one that got mentioned in the rumors was a dual kit to match krethusa or morathis party.
>>97063644I dig them, but I'm also a psycho trying to get the all foot heroes army to work. But also just have a bunch of Wrathmongers and Skullreapers I got cheap. I love the idea of a bit more Unga Bunga but you do big damage and have fun effects.
>>97063674NTA but from that leak by Reformation named TGA user, it did sound as just one kit with dual build. That is not much for a army that got basically nothing since 1ed.
>>97063631>a dual kitSome people will disagree with me, but I hope the range gets a new hag queen. The current situation where two foot heroes are locked in the murdercart kit is laughable. Sure Underworlds has provided some great proxies, but the fact remains that you can't buy just a hag queen. It's ridiculous and only tolerable because people will offload the bits they don't use.
>>97063659as an OBR player myself, I dont have any hope.
>>97063659The rumour comes from the guy that was 100% correct on both the Nurgle wave and about Warhammer Quest. So, in my opinion, very credible
>>97063659>>97063712Boole has shown to be at least somewhat trustworthy as seen by darkwater, so they should be relatively fine as far as rumours go.
>>97063589>DoK have so much potentialYou need to understand that DoK are not an army, they're a microfaction, waiting to be slotted into the actual new-dark-elves army that's been delayed for years.
All new lore about Helsmiths of Hashut from new White Dwarf.https://gofile.io/d/buGGz2
>>97063659>How credible were the recent Bonereaper leaks?95% reliable
>>97063827man, we really forgot about them fast, didn't we?
Is there a guide somewhere to paint blue like this somewhere? Closest I’ve seen is stormcast blue, but it’s still not exactly what I’m looking for.
>>97063861Try like the army painter fanatic teals and greens. You could try to color match citadel but citadels range is a completely nonsensical and disordered random set of colors so it will br much more difficult
>>97063827Praise the Bullfather!Thanks, kind anon.
>>97063827Skimmed it a bit, always nice to hear about some of the design decisions behind the sculpts. Looking forward to the nurgle version. Thanks for the scans anon.
>>97063827There is some sweet lore in there. I know they need to sell WD but they could have added this in battletome too. Really good stuff.
>>97063451>Any armies you’re considering starting or dipping your toes into and why?I did that this year, I now have too many fucking armys and am set for hobby projects for the near future. I blame it on online deals and my friend 3d printing me a bunch of centerpiece models for fun.
>>97063827>And that's where the "Chaos" archetype comes inWhere motherfucker
>>97063954I have to wonder if the total lack of chaos iconography is actually a boon for Helsmiths in terms of popularity. HoH fans, would you say that the models looking more like this would have dissuaded you from purchasing them, or at the very least somewhat diminished your interest?
>>97063744NTA but DoK will be ruined if they are put in a soup. Worse, it will be half baked release for Malerion too. Neither here nor there.
>>97063827>Kruleboyz Hobgrots are militaristic >Helsmith Hobgrots are notably not militaristic You what
>>97064017Come back when your faction sells more.
>>97064008I like both really. I bought Helsmiths but I like the look of that model too. HoH seem pretty popular from major online networks.>>97063827Thanks for sharing! All glory to mighty Hashut!
>>97064008>NOOOO IT NEEDS MORE ARROWS
>>97064031Give us more stuff and we will sell!
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>>97064035Ashen Elder is to me one of the most beautiful models GW ever made. That and the Anointed Sentinels. Really hope they explore the Scorched Sect in future.
>>97064035Why the hostility in this reply? I'm polling people on their opinions in design motifs.
>>97064008Actually, I like the Helsmiths more than old Chorfs. There is a certain raw beauty in new Helsmith range that old Chorfs lack.
>>97064008>musclesits there and im frankly hoping to see more of that>spikesits kinda there, not really. could take it or leave it>skullsI wouldnt mind seeing this with the priests or some kind of dregs of the helsmith caste>trimFuck no, keep this army easy to paint >shoulder padsthey are the same >soulstonesits meh. I can ignore it on the bulls, I'll be using the swords for the troops. dunno what else im missing here.
>>97064008This model specifically looks like ass, as does most of the forgeworld chorf stuff. Though this one also doesn't have much chaos iconography on it honestly.I liked classic chorfs the best, one of the few oldhammer armies I would probably collect. I don't think HoH are a bad take necessarily on the whole, though there's a few specific design cues I don't like. Beards should've been wider, don't like the swords and spear, blunderbusses look awful. Don't mind the angular motifs, and even the art deco I can appreciate. Overall a 7/10 imo. I'd say classic chorfs > HoH >>> legion of ass-bore
>>97064008How come none of the other dwarves get talked about this much, let's hear it for my boys the fyreslayers!
>>97064074I'm saying they need more arrows Also skulls
>>97064112I was like "oh man what a crazy edit there's no way they're this symmetrical"they arethey are this symmetrical
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>>97064106I have to give LoA credit for containing the singular Daemonsmith model that actually visually warrants the title DaemonSMITH...
>>97064140I had this one saved because I was discussing this army with a friend yesterday and his reaction to that guy was "OH MY GOD THAT'S GREAT!" I don't think I've ever seen someone see a fyreslayer and just instantly be on board for them.
>>97064112We discussed them more than enough.They failed as a range at day 1, the vulkites are posed like shit, and the guards don't offer enough diversity in designs, only overdesigned weapons.
>>97064165Do you like the pizza oven?
>>97064161totally normal reaction, fyreslayers are kino
I will be buying fyreslayers the moment they get their book. Not because they will be refreshednot because they will get more varied troopsnot because they will probably a core to the lore moving forwardbut because gotrek is finally in the fucking main book after all these fucking years where everyone else has had their gods walking around but slayers didnt. YES I FUCKING KNOW HES NOTHING LIKE SLAYERS BUT STILL. Its also fucking nice to have a god model that isnt a giant fucking centerpiece.
>>97064140>they are this symmetricalonly the unit leader for the vulkites
>>97064224I'm sad I missed out on my chance to get the rest of the heroes for Fyreslayers when they were like 8 bucks a piece at my FLGS. I didn't think someone would swoop in and yoink the rest of em.
>>97064233i got most of em for around $10-15 from trolltrader just before the tariffs hit. they're pretty fun. the doomseeker is way more of an absolute unit than he looks in the photos, his biceps have biceps, dude is fucking built
>>97064243>doomseekerI have 2 doomseekers, one from quest and the other because during that little fyreslayer lot I found they thought he was a vulkite so he was 2 dollars.
I grabbed a HoH starter box for cheap, how quickly do rules roll over with updates on aos? Is it like in 40k where your codex is out of date before it even arrives or is it still relevant outside of the fluff
>>97064169I think it's better than what most opinions paint it as, but it's jarring in a few ways: -no point in having a forge without an anvil, these things go hand in hand, not just practically but aesthetically, even the orc character got that right-the fluff of it getting summoned onto the battlefields is lame and cheap as fuck, especially given the very mundane mechanisms at its back-said mechanisms end up looking alien when presented with the one other type of 'tech' the fyreslayers run around, the magmapikes, there's no visual continuity in a vacuum, as a scenery piece for dwarfs, the pizza oven is fine if incomplete, but as a magically summoned crucible for runic dwarfs, it might as well be replaced with a scratchbuilt volcano instead
>>97064232all the beards in the vulkite kit are almost perfectly symmetrical, that's what makes the unit so bad, way more than one model taking on a power pose
In case you missed it, there was a stealth update today that let HoH take Regiments of Renown, including Grotsmas ones.
Bald dwarves. This is a possibility.Please no more mustacheless dwarves though
>>97064259its on the same 3ish year cycle that 40k is, with every 2 editions being an index, but aos just had its index like a year and a half ago, so that HoH tome should be more or less valid for at least the next 2 years or so.but its really hard to give an estimate beyond that. modern GW appears to be accelerating its book release cycle and the scope of its indexing and erratas, so as for the future its a little hard to tell. but if trends hold, then that HoH tome should be valid until probably 2028-2029
>>97064314as long as you dont take the couple that are flared out to the sides, its really not noticable at all. im halfway through painting 20 of them, its not as bad as you make it sound ,especially if you take the weapon and shield combo which further breaks up the symmetry
i failed math, so im qualified to be a GW rules writer
>>97064328i like the runemaster. mustacheless is fine every now and then. i will say, the tusks on the helsmiths make them look like little orcs though, especially since the hobgrots also have tusks. paint em green and they could pass for some new kind of greenskin
>>97064345the age old where to measure from debate
More like beige of pligmar
>>97064340>I didn't notice therefore it is not a fact! No, anon, that's not how it works.
>>97064373the rules tell us thoughwe measure the distance between the closest points on modelsnot the points themselves
>>97064386are you esl? or just being willfully disingenuous? because thats not the spirit of what i said at allwe're having a mild discussion about a model kit, why are you immediately resorting to such grimy argumentation?
I wanna Ogres in Age of Sigmar and I heard they were rebranded as Mawtribes or something. How are they on the table?
>>97064158That is true, the forge backpack is so retarded it loops back around to being cool again
>>97064514check back in like 6 months when they get refreshed with new models
>>97064514Don't buy them yet. They're getting new models soon-ish, and rumors are saying it's gonna be a big revamp.
>>97064527>>97064525Okay, thanks for the heads up. I'll just use the time to save up and focus on my painting.
>>97064536Don't believe these guys buy 100 gnoblars
>>97064545Fool that you are for assuming I don't already HAVE 100 gnoblars
Gitmob need a snotling pump wagon
>>97064614Gitmob needs to have their own codex instead of being stapled onto gitz
>Start with a Skirmish warband>Switch to Path to Glory once it's big enough>Once PoG is concluded, play a full Realmgate Wars campaign>This is your 2000pts army nowIs this how modern AoS Stillmania should be?
>>97064644This but replace skirmish with spearhead
>>97064644Don't talk about Stillmania; it makes me remember when we had big lists of artefacts and I'd try to kitbash to represent them, and then I get sad
>>97064644Realmgate Wars scenarios predate points. Ideally it'd be 2e with an AoA hero as the general and progression for their CP, 3rd edition PtG with 2e enhancement lists + realm spells + RoR GHB upgrades thrown in and homebrewed Mordheim/Frostgrave post game.
Hello there anons! I played a game yesterday and had a swell time so I thought I'd share it! Please forgive my unpainted models as I a humble paintlet who just loves building, collecting and playing these fun models. Anyways the battleplan was Bountiful Equinox and it was my Sons of Behmat vs Hellsmiths of Hashut. My tactics were Intercept and Recover (the targets were both artillery pieces and his ashen elder) and Restless Energy my gameplan is simple just try to smash him hard and control the board. Deployment was finished and I gave my opponent first turn the picrel is the results of that turn. He moved up hos Vandalz to screen me while summoning endless spells to help as his Bombard and Death-Shrieker fired at my Warstomper to deal 14 damage. (The A tokens you see are his intercept and recover targets.)
>>97064644@gork is this real
>>97064651Spearhead is fun but with many Spearhead boxes having 25+ minis and some of them even 30+, Skirmish lets you start with the fewest minis possible.>>97064705>3rd edition PtG with 2e enhancement listsFor me, it's the PtG 2017.
>>97064785Why would you play on an empty table with shelves behind you overflowing with scenery?
>>97064804Wut do you fink, you git?
>>97064345how does this work? arent you 0" away when youre base to base?if you move exactly 3" away arent you exactly 3" away? 0 + 3 = 3 not 3.0001
>>97064836they made that ruling so people wouldnt be endlessly trying to pixelfuck a tenth of a millemeter. while the ruling may not be mathematically precise, the intention is that if you can retreat at least 3 inches, you have retreated from combat, and any less you have not. this whole thing is to head off autism where one player says "i retreat out of combat" and positions his models just outside a units combat range, and then the other player comes in with "uuhmmmmm ahcktshually you can see here if you measure precisely this model is still one sixteenth of an inch within 3 inches and thus your unit is still locked in combat sir"the designers commentary might as well read" stop being such pieces of shit you know what they meant to do". but since they cant actually say that in official commentary, we get this instead.
>>97064785Good on ya, I have yet to play with the new objective stuff so I have yet to see how different it feels from the old "Stand on the edges, okay now stand in the middle, okay now kill a guy" SOB are neat though, I need to finish my 4th mega already since he's sitting around while I wait for inspiration to strike.>>97064818Probably just doing their first game and following whatever the generals handbook has on it. I've been stuck playing exclusively stuff from the handbook for basically every game I've had since I've started, did manage to do a freeform SBGL v SBGL with someone which was pretty fun recently though.
>>97064785This turn was devastating ngl. I had 5 command points as my list was 1930 points, I used one lasthero phase to try and summon the Krondspine Incarnate that I had from the glowy later artifact, it failed but this turn I tried again and got him out. My foes magical interventioned the lifeswarm near his shooting but I was undaunted by such magic. Moving straight ahead with my units I decided to eliminate his screens and open mysef for either a double turn or force his army to split up. My shooting phase began and a few vandalz on the left side were blessed by my rocks leaving a slight gap I could exploit but what most shocked both of us was a mancrusher rock hitting the dominator engine and deal 3 damage to it. A covering fire was declared by the Death-Shrieker into my warstomper yet an all out defense saw only 4 damage grace my giant. Then it was time for the charges most of my guys made the short charges into the screens but the warstomper sprinted past them and into the dominator. Another 3 mortals from my impact hits rocked the construct, as hobgrots were smushed under my feet. Now in combat was where it got spicy. Bu using my colossal slam rampage on the dominator I repositioned it (while doing another 3 mortal wounds) to allow myself a pile-in into his Infernal Razers. Usage lf all out attack and splitting saw both Razers and Dominator join the earth in which they despoiled. The endless spells but some damage on my mancrusher but the grots where obliterated, I even piled into the Cohort blob and peeled off a good chunk of them. 10 points on primaries and I got the first part of Restless Energy. Now for the Roll Off
>>97064871>while the ruling may not be mathematically precisebut the whole game is based on mathwhy can we just ignore the math in this case
>Casual play>Skaven vs CoS>Guy has dorfs with humans, surprised>Dorfs have square bases>Still play >Guy places them a decent amount from each other so it simulates the circle base>Tell them np>Other guy manifests like some sort of chaos spawn out of nowhere>"emmm he's using square bases, he can't play">Tell him it's fine>"eermm ok but i might tell the store owner about it if he plays comp"So these kind of people exist??>>97063659I have never encountered a Ossiarch player in the store...Is there something wrong with the faction?>>97064555Would have liked some elite gnoblars, but those sods are like the grots in 40k, never a true soldier, always the fodder
>>97064818Oh I guess the table does look pretty barren but we followed the battleplan map and it was 4 big forests and 4 lil places of power. For forests we used those round pieces of neoprene mat you can see, we normal put a bunch trees on them and move em if a units needs to walk through but this time we decided that hellsmith have ravaged the area and are about to fully corrupt it until I arrived
>>97064942>eermm ok but i might tell the store owner about it if he plays comp
>>97064935the game is based not based on 1 thing, it is based on 2 things1: math2: intentionbecause these are physical models on a table moved by hand using measurements from tape measures often held half a foot above the models so as not to accidently hit them and damage them, a certain level of approximation and good natured yielding to intention is needed to maintain a functioning wargame. any time one player is trying to catch the other out on technicalities of fractions of an inch against their intentions from an almost imperceptible misplacement, it is just bad for the game and the communityanyone actually playing the game in good faith knows this and doesnt need it explained to them, but FAQs and commentaries like the above are an attempt to head off the few players not acting in good faith
>>97064987>the game is not based on 1 thing, it is based on 2 things*
>>97064942>Is there something wrong with the faction?Having played them like 4 times now, they are dreadfully dry and boring. Katakros is basically required and is fun because he's a blender, morteks are fucking 2 inch base move and the lamest slow chaff ever. Most of what you do is just buff your dudes to hit slightly better, you get one offensive spell that's pretty neat.Also all your foot heroes are wizards, and you're pretty limited in options for units. (Also the terrain is stupid big and for the size basically does nothing) Endless spells are fun, mostly because they're just units. Morghasts are fun but you basically need them reinforced and if you reinforce them that's like half your list. Arkhan is there too, he's fine but nothing really special.
>>97064987okay what if i say i intend to be 0" away from your model (because thats what base to base means) and your unit moves 3"how do you retreat >3" from me if you only move 3"
>>97064514during 2026 they're getting an almost complete overhaul, the only safe kits to buy as of now seems to be the stonehorn/thundertusk kit and the gorgersthe basic infantry is getting updated the ironguts are getting updatedthe leadbelchers seem to be going away completely and replaced by a unit of hunters with crossbows, so if you still want some lads with cannons get them now and use them to count as the hunters coming the updategnoblars may or may not disappear as their own unitwe have no info on the ironblaster/scraplauncher, it might stay because it's not in the list of the kits going away, or the leaker might have genuinely forgotten about it mournfangs riders are getting updatednew plastic butchersnew plastic tyrantnew butcher special character (artillery type, so we're expecting not!skrag)new maneater special character (female ogre with a cannon for an arm. no other maneater in sight)new ogrelord special character (daughter of not!goldtooth, on a big monster)not even the scenery pieces are safe, but they're cool enough that I recommend getting them anyway
>>97064987>anyone actually playing the game in good faith knows this and doesnt need it explained to thembuddy this is not about "playing in good faith" its about simple maths0 + 3 = 3, not 3.001GW are a bunch of retards who failed maths
>>97065020>>97065013see this is exactly the mathematical nonsense the faq is heading off. you guys are the reason it exists
>>97065013base contact is zero distance plus an infinitesimal small amount, because your base cannot be on top of the other baseretreat by 3" brings you out of the melee range of the other base by the same infinitesimal amount
>>97064917 I rolled a 5 and he rolled a 2, using his once per game reroll from having more drops than I he tried again....with a 3.I took the double turn (may god have mercy on my soul)But this was a more simple round, he countercasted a hashut spell to give my Beast-smasha half movement and that did matter but I just began to press inward. The poor infernal Cohort were stuffed into bags and my Kraken-eaters net and just succumb to 3 gargants wailing on them, as did burning head and the jaws. Even one of my mancrushers ran in and killed his Daemonsmith. But his Death-shriker held out only taking 2 wounds from my now quite hurt warstomper. I couldn't get into Urk-Taar because of his movement debuff and the Bulls redeployed away but his front line was entirely gone. Another 10 points for me as I can't score tactics on a double turn.
>>97065020nta but this isnt something to big of a deal to make off of.
>>97065046no, base contact is zero distance>plus an infinitesimal small amounthmm how do i measure this? the rules only allow me to use these tools, and i dont see particle accelerator on there
>>97065043>mathematical nonsenseYou think a basic definition is "mathematical nonsense"?
>>97065051> Unpainted trash on a board with 99% 'flat' gaemr terrainCompletely fucking disgusting
>>97065051AoS adopting the retarded 40k objective pie plates was a massive mistake. Even without the rest of the board looking good, they make it look especially shit. I don’t know how 40keks do it
>>97065082At least he’s playing. More than can be said for many people here.What counts is that him and his friend had fun.
>>97065097you presumably dont have to use those though. just put an objective token like a treasure chest or some civilians/johan on a 40mm base, and then just measure 3" off of it for control
>>97065062>no, base contact is zero distanceIt can't be, your bases aren't overlapping at any point, they cannot occupy the same point, so a contact means being right next to that point
i wish we had generic spell-/ prayer lores, artefacts and heroic traits for every realm. certain endless spells should be bound to a realm as well.
>>97065051Now the Hellsmith's get-back begins channeling the dpp into Urak and Bulls they charge into my Beast-smasha but I still got a plan, once again I use colossal slam to move Urak between the Beast-smasha and the Incarnate, finally I pop the Furious Temper heroic trait on my Smasha to give him -1 to save but +2 attacks on everything. I all-out defense him against the the mass of Bull-Centaurs and receive 18 damage but the swing back is legendary and the ENTIRE unit is wiped. Urak does some more damage but my Smasha still lives, and urak takes some minor damage from the incarnate. Meanwhile shooting from earlier in the round combined with the warstomper unable to kill the artillery spelled his demise as the emerald lifeswarm smothers him, although I do timber about both shooting pieces. He gains 10 points of his tactics but own no objectives.
>>97065121the distance between two objects that are in contact is zero. thats... just the definition of contact. there really isnt any argument against that, it's a definitionif the distance between two objects is >0 then theyre not in contact
>>97065119I don’t have an issue with the circles. I’d generally prefer them to be clear or in-theme with the table but the issue that arises with making a physical token is that the rules say you can place models on the 40mm space of the objective. Having a physical token means your model can’t occupy that space, therefore reducing the total area a unit can control while also introducing a big pillar of “no” in terms of coherence/ranges. I mean, in a casual game 2 sane people can agree when a model or two should be sitting on top of the token’s area, but we all know this hobby’s tendency to attract the maladjusted.
>>97065161>the distance between two objects that are in contact is zerono, it isn't if the closest point of one base to the next is point 0, then the other base cannot physically be at point zero as well without overlapping, it can only be at 0+000...0001, because it cannot overlap
>>97065082Fair enough, I will make sure my next game is far more visually appealingI will vouch for my opponent as he does have wonderfully painted armies, my favorite is his Thanquol's Mutated Menagire with color coded Hellpits for different clans. Plus he said that the scheme he'll do for HoH is Muspelzharr
>>97065239You ain't gonna win this anon, a few anons are just schizos about this type of thing. Just play the game and have fun.
>Lost a bid on some warcry terrain>Also my glue and other hobby supplies aren't coming until the weekend ( it was due monday) at least dark water will be there for me, hopefully. Hoping the holidays dont keep me too busy to forget the pre-orders.
>>97065239for what its worth I like to see how you messed with the bases. idk what exactly you are doing with the Bull sorcerer but I look forward to seeing ti painted.
>>97065254>Lost a bid on some warcry terrainI'd sell ya mine if it's the red harvest one. I've got too much shit already and not sure I have the space for another sprue. (It came with some random facebook lot I got)
>>97065254Give up and buy the gnarlwood terrain
>>97065187how does it make a difference weather or not models can stand on top of it?
>>97065140Pie plates and objective mats The state of this game atm
>>97063706The problem with Motgwaeth the underworlds one is it's OOP so that's not even an option
>>97065198it doesnt matter, because AOS tells you to measure the distance BETWEEN the points
>>97065275On the objectives....?
>>97065254>Sniped a Catacombs box for 180>Effectively set terrain wise1e's terrain mogs 2e's so hard
>>97065275Positioning of units. Whether you want a unit wholly on it or within range for obscuring, or getting a little more control score, charging/fighting and aura or ability bubbles, and physically wrapping around it for combats on objectives. Just having to constantly remember “x model is actually where the objective is one more thing on the mental load, even if minor, it’s still a little tedious.
>>97065288that changes nothing, the distance between the two cannot be zero unless they overlap at the point of contact, and they cannot overlap because they're not dimensionless mathematical shapes, they're physical objects.base contact is a practical term but a theoretical misnomer.and in both theory and practice and rules as intended, you cannot move a model further back by 3" without it being more than 3" away from the model it was close to.
>>97065140Not a HoH player nor did I play against them but from the reports I see, they seem incredibly weak?Like, they lose all the fucking time.
>>97065320>without it beingnot*
>>97065122>Soul Wars - Malign Sorcery>Era of the Beast - Savage Aether>Hour of Ruin - Blighted MagicsIn a different timeline than the one we inhabit.
>>97065140HoH wins the roll off and now double turns me, Urak cast a cool spell that damages 3 gargants and uses another inflict a few more onto another gargant. Also I am dumb and messed up when my Warstomper died, it was THIS turn not last turn, it still meant whatever he had on that side needed to free up his shooting which it did. So onto the main attraction can his leader kill my Mega Gargant and free himself? Well a counter charge by my Kraken Eater leads to this standoff.
>>97065320>and they cannot overlap because they're not dimensionless mathematical shapesno thats literally what a point isby definition
>>97065324Yeah, they seem to be doing horribly. Their scrolls are a fucking joke. As this anon >>97065330 report shows.
>>97065332you missed the pointbases aren't points, they're physical objects, they cannot occupy the same coordinates at any point, they can't both be at point 0, there will always be an infinitesimal distance between them at the very least
>>97065330And the aftermath, Urak brings down my general causing the manifestation to disappear with it. Fleeing for his life my Kraken eater uses power through to inflict some mortals onto Urak and position himself for another charge. But now it's my turn, and Urak is all alone.
>>97065360Jeeze, Kragnos would have probably helped loads here to give you that extra charge range.
>>97064024One hold granades and other mining equipment
>>97065330>>97065360This looks so bad. Like kids playing with action figures. I miss when miniatures were miniature.
>>97065324victory with helsmiths requires a certain level of cruelty most people arent willing to engage in
>>97065360It always surprises me that manifestations disappear with the caster dying. Small little rule interaction that’s easy to forget. Just like being able to use a fight ability with a pile in after a successful charge even though the unit you intended to swing at may have died before your units turn to fight.
>>97065391No, anon. I am seeing reports online, HoH are loosing all the time. Like 90%. It is surreal.
>>97065360Very simply I walked up and engaged the rest of his army, destroying his Death-Shrieker, crippling Urak but unable to kill his Ashen or Bombard (Ashen's damage ignore came in clutch) yet I scored another 15 points and was kind of in a position where a comeback was slipping away from my opponent.
>>97065187>make your games look like shit because people in this hobby are maladjusted and will try to fuck you over to winFind a non gay group? What are we even doing here at this point?
>>97065405HoH flopped. Best not to buy them, anon.
>>97065405>>97065423Some poor sucker in here posted about his " great deal " on the HoH starter. Fool doesn't realize he was buying a packaged turd on clearance. >make HoH look like shit>make HoH weak as shitWhat the fuck was GW thinking?
>>97064024"Kruleboyz" hobgrots organize themselves into self-governed kompanies because they're conniving assholes that stick together to avoid getting pounded into paste by other races and factions (including their clients)Helsmiths hobgrots have the dubious protection of their masters, who don't seem to care much about their discipline so long as they fight and die as fodderBasically it's a mercenary group vs. some overworked serfs
>>97065417You'd be surprised at how many people play using the rules anon. Apparently it's quite common to just buy the rules book and use that as the standard.
>>97065423>>97065427No you fucking "Why did HoH flop" retards. They did not flop. People are buying them.I am asking why are they always losing.
ahhhhh i see. the dust settling shitposter is back and samefagging up a controversy storm. okay
>>97065410Now time was running low so we just sped through the next round. He won priority and kept it so Urak casted spells did mortal and we did combat. Urak gave it his all doing a good chunk of damage but my Kraken-Eater didn't hear no bell and ended the reign of the First Daemon Smith. I won but ngl the ending had me slightly worried for a bit! Both me and my opponent shook hands and had a great time. We discussed that if he didn't pull his hobgrots away from my warstomper I wouldn't have been able to do that charge and get into his backline. For my first game against hoh it was pretty darn fun! Hope you guys enjoyed this little scuffed battle report!
>>97065447Cuz they're new and people haven't figured out the best way of properly utilizing them. And they're not OP enough at launch to just brute force through that initial timeframe.
>>97065456Thank you anon, hopefully I can score a game soon and take some pics for anons to get mad at too. But glad you had fun!
>>97065453I thought it was obvious. Wonder if wfg is slow or if he just really likes stalking this general.
>>97065447>They did not flopThere are mountains of the " While stocks last " HoH Army Sets that you can buy on discount months after the army release. That is an objective flop. GW produces enough copies of the limited edition boxes as they think will sell. Boxes languishing on shelves are the absolute worst case outcome of a new release. The demand for HoH is way lower than anticipated = HoH flopped objectively.
>>97065453I feel like Perry anon is here based on the table commentary.
>nigga caught using bots still tries to push his shitDesperate
>>97065469
>>97064907They are pretty neat! They are what I've been running a lot lately, also I'd give the new objectives a chance they bring more decision making into the game and add a slight mindgame element.
>>97063451How good is the elite OBR spearhead
>>97065477No I think he’s still making hwg miserable the last couple of times I went there.
>>97065481
>>97065487I hope their tome fixes the Cathallar whenever it comes. Control score manipulation is most often such a non-mechanic and she has 2 abilities focused on it.
>>97065447Don't reply to the bot
>>97065511It’s not a bot, it’s a jeet that lives in Canada. He’s so fixated on it because smiths dared to objectify his god.
>>970654872026 will be the year of the Ydrilan Rivermage. Bet on it.
>>97065518i think its just cause he doesnt like the designs, he had a full on 2 week psychotic break of 100 posts screeds, which then abruptly stopped when the dust posts started.
>>97065266Those are my opponents Hellsmiths but thank you for the compliment nonetheless, he going for a blasted forest type feel with dead trees and barren land. But the big boy is emerging out from duradin ruins that he got 3d printed. It's pretty rad in person.
>>97065528River blades shouldn’t be so cool
>>97065511Beep boop>>97065518Lmao I am simply stating an objective fact. I am sorry that I triggered the HIDF. 40k Army Sets sell out in minutes, HoH being available MONTHS after release is a disaster.
>>97065281Haha sorry about the pie plates they are just really easy to set up, I'll try to make the next one I do more sovl.
>>97065550No you sir bloody bastard.
>>97065550Uh oh mohindur melty
>>97065494I just have been a lazy asshole and haven't bought the new GHB yet. Been a strictly hobby timeline for me atm.
>>97065550Somebody's upset everybody filtered his bait posts huh
>>97065550-100 izzat saar
>>97065324They have good shooting, good cav but no real frontline. Their basic infantry Cohorts can't tank that well as only having 1 wounds really hurt them. This game kinda highlights that. Though I will say I did him dirty with that dominator engine.
>>97065557just ignore 'em anon, people are gonna bitch and moan that your table isn't some elaborate pristine pre-made model railroad set or some shit. If you're playing the game it's just gonna be easier to do it with the big goofy objective circles and standard terrain. If you wanna play for funsies and set shit up ahead of time you can do whatever but I don't think anyone who actually plays the fucking game is gonna fault you for going to your FLGS and just using what's around.
>>97065547I wasn't sold on them at first from just the models, but the artwork making them look cool and the fluff painting them as madcap ninjas did a lot to raise my opinion of them. I'd have liked to see them in some other subfaction colors to gauge how much of my initial impression was just my being turned off by the Ymetrica scheme, but no luck so far.
>>97065557Don’t feel bad, anon. You’re the only who’s posted a game in here. Theres also some autistic hate against game aids, too. But for sure do work on the terrain.
>>97065605Their fluff is so cool and the rules seem fun.Maybe in the coming year I’ll get ahold of a kit and throw my scheme on em.
>>97065611It does get annoying posting games and the 2 schizo anons who have a conniption at "YOU'RE USING OBJECTIVE MARKERS?!" and then do not respond when asked what they would use as an alternative drive me fucking insane.
>>97065018>no other maneater in sightwe actually know that maneaters are being updated but are coming later
>>97065353>bases aren't points, they're physical objectsthe rules dont say anything about measuring the distance between the basesthe rules say you measure the distance between the closest points (a dimensionless mathematical construct)
>>97065367Kragnos would be interesting in this list but how I usually play is more reactive to my opponent. Bait and exploit the gaps in their army. But kragnos and the boys full sending it sounds fun as well I'll have to test it!
>>970656633d6 charge on SOB is ideal for them because the sooner you can get in and stomp your opponent the better.
>>97065398I in fact used the later rule to my advantage that's how I engaged the Cohorts with my kraken-eater because I charged the hobgrotz who got krumped later.
So are the "old" Putrid Blightkings discontinued now?
>>97065462I am glad you enjoyed it! I recently saw some peoply talking about how 4th killed the game in their local scene and wanted to show that this game is still really fun! But showing up with unpainted models on a boring board probably doesn't help my case haha!
>>97065745They’re off the store page, so yes. They’re still in the spearhead, though. And I’m sure you can find them everywhere online.
>>970657574th actually grew my scene. There just straight up wasn’t one. Then a store did a slow grow/ptg league and ended up doing an RTT to finish it off, which happened to be my first RTT ever. They’ve been doing it every month since and attendance is low-ish but steady even if I can’t make it some times. It’s still more than the absolute nothing I had previously.
>>97065762The weird thing is that they’re supposed to feature in the spearhead magazine. I wonder if they’ll swap the boxes
>>97065239Then paint that shit before you play. Post a battle recap with painted models or don't do it>>97065247Fuck off paintlet loser faggot
>>97065757>unpainted models on a boring boardRealistically I don't think anyone worth listening to gives a shit, if you are actively playing the game and having fun I feel like that's what's more important in literally every case of playing a tabletop war game. Like this drooling retard >>97065778 you can basically just ignore whatever slop he's spewing because he won't post models or a fancy board he's played on.
>>97065798shut up
>>97065798Holy fucking melty lmaooo
>>97065825ur gay
>>97065798trying too hard at this point, buddy
>>97065798
>>97063861Pretty close to the nighthaunt teal
>>97065829dust status: unsettled
>>97065593>>97065557It's not your fault, that's just how the game is now. Behemoth spam is ubiquitous and objectives are abstracted into the radial markers
>>97065854I'd enjoy other methods but I started in 4th so this is what I've learned to deal with.
>>97065501>using google instead of your shitty purple appLel sneaky are we rajeshI know I shouldn't be taking the bait, but just in case, using random stores online is a bad metric. Using the leaf's own third worlder app you can similarily find crux terminatus, or the new marauder box, both of which sold out practically instantly on the gw webstore (like the helsmiths box). In no way shape or form can those be considered flops, and if that is the line of reasoning we're using, neither can chorfsQed
Give me skaven sandals gw. I can be trusted with them,
>>97065870i spit on vishnu and canada-10000 izzat for you
>My ur-jimmies are kindled.
>>97065108>>97065247>>97065593>>97065611I appreciate the support anons but I do think some criticism can be gleaned from them, plus while I am fine playing on whatever I do have a soft spot for interesting terrain and plus it'll look good in pictures!
>>97065870Alright no need to false flag as the leaf, he's pathetic enough as is.
>he's STILL trying
>>97065875It's good to have, I've personally gone out of my way to get a few bits of terrain I'm theming after Shyish stuff. (Mostly just dull greys and purple bits) But I also understand that hauling a bunch of terrain everywhere can be a pita and you might not necessarily have everything on hand. But having a nice set of cool terrain is fun.Do it for you, don't do it for some perry anon tier schizo who still hasn't posted a good board he's played on because he's full of shit.
>>97065875yeah hes ultimately right that flat objectives and sparse flat terrain makes the game look boring and uglythats why warmachine died
>>97065874I look forward to seeing what comes their way! Fryeslayers deserve a dub!
>>97065897i raped Kamadhenu and pissed on Shivapraise Hashut, a god that is more real than anything in india
>pretending to be me>pretending to be Indiankekk I broke the poor guys brain. Imagine caring about the failure of a miniature army this much.
>>97065535Kinda. A lot of my posts were conflated with his.
>>97065798You Indians are the most insecure bunch of faggots on the planet. This is a niche hobby, get a life.
>>97065745yesF
>>97065798how are you idiots falling for thisthis is like if a guy started larping about odin and thor
>>97065943>how are you idiots falling for this>this is like if a guy started larping about odin and thorHave you been to 40kg recently.
>>97065951No...
>>97065921Kashmir belongs to Pakistan btw
>>97065956NTA but go check it out.There is a Canadian Pajeet poster posting schizo shit here and there. He got buck broken by release of HoH for some strange reason. So we get "Now that the dust has settled" crap.
I am going to laugh so hard when the schizo pajeet falseflagger gets banned and the HoH flop posts with pics stay up.
Justice for Horns of Hashut
>>97066034It is 2 or 3 anons. Likely 2. Things will be solved.
Man I really hope the new cities stuff is as cool as it sounds like. I wish these blurry fucking pictures were actually decipherable.>>97066034Lel, tbf he's shitting up the thread more than the actual flopper at the moment.
the pajeet fears the raw bull-masculinity of the glorious Hashut (praise be upon him)
>>97066080I am wondering now if he's the same guy who's been bitching about terrain the whole time since he mysteriously stopped when this schizo started....
>>97066080The only three ways they can fuck up this wave are>the models don't have closed helmets>gitmob-tier pricing >the new special characters are black
>>97066102Eh, this general is more than capable of cooking up more than one schizo at a time by itself.
>>97066122See I wanna believe that but the human urge to categorize things is just itching the back of my brain. It's like when one of the circle schizos turned out to just be perry-anon or how horse schizo ALSO turned out to be perry-anon.
HoH flopping killed Warcry. They were going to provide rules for them but when the dust settled they couldn't justify it. Rumours say they're tooling the moulds to add skulls and arrows so they can sell them for TOW after AoS wraps up with a 5th edition end times scenario and only Underworlds remains
>>97066034>>97066080Eh, I am from India and the anon in question knows Hindu lore as well Indian nationalism (Akhand Bharat). I am not religious but some Hindus get crazy when in the Western societies they see depictions of cows or bulls.
>>97066131Yes rajesh whatever you say
>>97066131I know this is a bit and so on, but if anyone is actually out of the loop chorfs did get warcry rules https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hcnpn7ys/helsmiths-of-hashut-burst-into-warcry-alongside-a-new-matched-play-update/
>>97066158/wfg/ died again huh?
im laughing so hard right now
He's lost his mind. Dustposter won.
>>97066187The one melting down is the dustspammer thoughbeit
>>97066176I do not got to that place. I am AoS purist. >>97066182Imagine how pathethic you have to be to say Kashmir is Pakistan when Muslims killed millions of holy Hindus. >>97066187I am presenting the actual proof for the last month. Just apologize and own up to fact that Helcucks of Hashit have flopped like no other release in history of GW.
>>97066208I am the Dustposter and no that schizo is def not me. Time will vindicate me when that guy gets banned.
>>97066250If you're the dustposter prove it
>>97066250He did got banned. Check >>97066182So...there is several of you still here.
>>97066129It's easier for our minds to comprehend all of the most retarded shit coming from one person than it is to believe there are multiple people that annoying in the same space. I get where your coming from, but it's unhealthy to go around assuming that until you get very objective evidence proving it
>>97066250>its not me trust me!!!LolLmao
>>97066210Why, why do you care so much? What does it change for you if HoH flopped or not? I just do not understand your motives at all. What is so offensive to you about Hashut?
>>97066279He's just mentally stunted don't worry about himOnce the darkwater box drops hell start spamming about that instead
>>97066268They don't always delete every single post you've made when you get banned and they don't always ban you when they delete your posts.
>>97066279NTG and I recognize that it's totally impotent and has no utility whatsoever but I was a die-hard "chorfs ARE coming" poster, and seeing that the actual chorf models aren't to my liking while a bunch of people who were probably naysaying me previously are enjoying them pisses me off to no end. I know that the concept of "deserving" is inherently fallacious but by god did I feel entitled to like the new chorfs. I even bought stuff in advance of the reveal (Horns, Slittaz, Daemonsmith, Warcry mining terrain) and now it's kind of just sitting around uselessly.
Can't be bothered to read all this shit, any hairloss meds tier funny moments?
>>97066279The flopposter doesn't actually care, he's just looking to do his little ritualpost and hopefully derail the thread a little. If he actually gave a shit he'd be bitching and arguing against the guys making actual rebuttals like the dude who pointed out that you can find the 40k terminator boxes, but again he's just looking to mess around a little.The real problem is the retards falling for it.
>>97066319no, unfortunately, just some /40kg/ schizoids trying to turn /aosg/ into a similar wasteland
Do you guys think GW will ever admin defeat and release redesigned Lumineth Stoneguards?
I still do not understand the lore of the Mortal Realms. So they're essentially infinite but not really, and they're all basically flat planets in a solar system. What does that infinity mean exactly? Is it like, infinite land you can just keep walking on? Or is it like infinite ocean with continents strewn in?And I know, "It depends on the Realm", but like, take the most human populated/most earth-like realm (don't know which that is). What does it look like?
>>97066355Nigga they aren't infiniet go back to fucking Youtube where you came from
>>97066355Just imagine "realms" as basically just another planet themed after a wind of magic. They go on forever but the boundaries are vague and mostly just defined when you start to melt by getting too close to the edge.They're finite as well since there is an edge and if you get tossed off you basically get scattered to dust. Most "earth-like" is vague but probably Azyr or Ghyran but realistically any biome can be in any realm it's just more themed to whatever wind of magic is there. But cities are there, villages, towns, garrisons, people can live in the realm of death just fine it's just gloomier and has more skeletons walking around than say the realm of fire which is dryer and hotter.
>>97066319God, what I wouldn’t do for another one of those.
>>97066355You're taking the setting waaaay too seriously. It's not supposed to be self consistent or fleshed out like Fantasy or 40k. It's supposed to be an open setting to allow for maximum creativity to flourish. Defining things would only impose limits. AoS is more so about dope models and less so about a self consistent logical setting.
>>97066370this was the 1e lore
>>97066344Hopefully never. On top of the stoneguard models being an effective retard filter they're also fun to paint.
>>97066396Should I imagine mostly land covering a realm or mostly ocean like in the real world?If it's mostly ocean I think I can grasp the setting a lot better>>97066407Yeah I know but I'd just like a better grasp on things>>97066370shut the fuck up you retarded faggot and suck my shit covered dick
>>97066418>Should I imagine mostly land covering a realm or mostly ocean like in the real world?There is just oceans like normal, for all intents and purposes what you see on a map is what you're getting. The edges of the realm and what goes on there is not the most well explored. Just assume that what you see is what you get in 99% of cases.
>>97066457do you have a crisp map of ulgu?
>>97066355Big enough for your dudes to fit in but not big enough GW has to give a shit about fleshing out more than the bare minimum
>>97066175Damn, Dominator Engines too
>>97066418Gw purposefuly keeps the full maps of the realms vague as fuck, instead they'll focus on one or two important continents/landmasses/whatevers per realm, like you see in >>97066457 for shyish, or picrel for ghur. So while we can't say for sure what the average ratio is, there's definitely massive oceans. Ulgu and chamon have some nautical themes, so their proportion of ocean might be bigger. Realms are not infinitd by the way, they're just enormous. Again, gw keeps things vague, but I think it's stated somewhere that it would take a lifetime to walk from the centre of a given realm towards its edge, whatever that means. Additionally, the farther you get from the centre of a realm the more saturated with respective magic and unstable the place becomes, so only really a certain portion of the realm is actually hospitable. Weird shit starts happening once you get close to the edge, where the realm's magic is strongest. Hysh' edge was bright enough to blind tyrion, the literal god of light. His eyes just melted in his skull.But yeah back to basics cosmology wise to keep things simple you can essentially visualize the mortal realms as 8 fuckhuge flat planets, each themed to a specific wind.
not that the dust has settled, why did maggotkin flop?
>>97066599people liked the idea of maggotkin more than the maggotkin themselvesas you can see by my third world app, no boxes have sold.
>>97066599In the end people liked the idea of maggotkin more than they liked the actual maggotkin.Shitposting aside, khorne and nurgle seem to be the only actually common monogod armies, and tzeentch could maybe conpete with a refresh that brings them up to par. Now slaanesh on the other hand, is basically entirely a modern range, yet one of, if not the asbolute least played armies in aos.In short, how do we fix the slaanesh problem?
>>97066628more artistic, more ornate, less naked.
>>97066628>In short, how do we fix the slaanesh problem?Slaanesh is too intimidating to paint and is hard to play. That's the real problem. Everyone loved the models when they came out but not many are willing to try and paint and play.
>>97066457>Neferata and Mannfred hate each other>They built their Kingdoms right next to each otherAre they stupid?
>>97064614>>97064635Gitmob needs to be souped with Ironjaws and Moonclan need to be souped with the swamp retards. Splitting orcs and goblins was a mistake and you'll never change my mind.
>>97066738IIRC their respective underworlds were allotted to them by Nagash.
>>97066728>HoH>0.3%
>>97065798>piss drinking HashitGlad to see you finally admit he's one of your own. That'll be -10 gorillion izzat points, turdworlder.
>>97066768>Wtf this army that just came out a month ago isn't as popular as sce and skaven
>>97066628I don't know if it's possible for them to be popular. Most fast, fragile, finesse armies like Slaanesh, DoK, and 40k Drukhari are kind of antithetical to popularity due to the difficulty of both their playstyles and painting them.
>>97066728>>97066768>Caring about tournament popularityPost an actual game statlist
>>97066799Cathay came out only a few months earlier and has like 10x the HoH population relative to the tournament pool. Helsmiths flopped.
>>97066620I haven't seen a single person play with the new models bonified FLOP
>>97066805Post it yourself.
>>97066728>DoK that low tournament stats?
>>97066810>RelativeLol
>>97066822DoK is always low, even lower than this. It's one of the more unpopular factions.
>>97066768>HoH perform poorly on tabletop>Tournament metafags don't pick them Real thinker there
>>97066835Competitively or in general? I'd be shocked if generally
>>97066822>>97066835>>97066856You can be shocked. The list is event based that's why DoK get a big boost in this list. If it was general then they would be at the very bottom like in that general list that gets posted here from time to time.
>>97066596And when will we have a map of Azyr?
>>97066866Oh it's just tournaments aka irrelevant
>>97066628Nurgle failed because its miniatures looked literally awful, and as for Slaanesh, it needs more NSFW content, more nudity, more boobs, more butts, and no censorship.
>>97066881Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
>>97066908>Nurgle failed because its miniatures looked literally awful(you)
>>97065287Would be cool if GW rotates the big 4-in-1 warband boxes seasonally so some of the other old stuff gets brought back even if it's only for 6-12 months at a time.
>>97066548This should have you covered well enough.
>>97066881Here is a non tournament one. How will you cope now?
>>97066947They will now say it doesn't count because of sob and kruleboyz
>>97066944Well, we already have a map of 7 of the 8 kingdoms, now we only need the most important one of all, the kingdom of Sigmar Azyr.
>>97066728>CoS mid-bottomWell, i mean yeah, when you remove decent chunk of races that are together as a faction called CITIES of sigmar makes you think about the popularity dropping ain't it?>Stormcast..What can i even say, always eating good, always getting in starter sets>KruleboyzHuh, i swear people liked them>OgorsWas this sudden drop because of that "leak" saying they were gonna lose a shit lot of minis?
>>97066944>Aqshy Clavis Isles/The Eye>Griffon's Eyrie>The Jadewound>Tarpit Lakes>Hysh in its entirety>Assassin's Rest + Shyish Hook + ShyishardIs there a Ghur symbol hidden in the Ghurish Heartlands map I'm missing?
>>97066990CoS has a similar problem like Slaanesh. Hard to paint but also has the problem you mentioned. Now that we know they are getting a second wave I imagine their popularity will increase as now we know this army will get support.
>>97066947>>97066965doesnt it though? that shit is HIGHLY suspicious if you're trying to tell me 1 army won 115 games without a single loss and another lost 120 without a single win, a third army went perfectly 50/50 with a very odd 67 to 67 match ratio, or cities of sigmar playing almost 600 games and having a 13% winrate, which would make it the worst winrate ever recorded (apart from the aforementioned 0%) by a solid 15% marginsomething is very fucky with that data, the whole thing is suspect
>>97066355https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fqn1aa5l/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-what-exactly-are-the-mortal-realms-and-who-lives-in-them/This should cover it for you. Straight from the horse's mouth.
>>97067017Not at all
>>97067017>something is very fucky with that data, the whole thing is suspectIt's player input into the app everyone uses for games. It however aligns with the tournament chart so it looks to be mostly correct.
>>97067025>so it looks to be mostly correct.according to who? because there are at least armies in that list that are so wildly off the mark they are beyond parody
>>97067032>there are at least armies in that list that are so wildly off the mark they are beyond parodyHow do you know they are off the mark? Post a better list proving your claim then. Otherwise you're just coping and shitposting.
>>97067017Post your more reliable datasets then
>>97067038are you really trying to tell me with a straight face that any army went undeafeated for over 100 games in a row? or that another army went without a win just as much?i dont have to go out and find another list to call that one absolute horseshit with obviously false or erratic data
>>97067047So you're just shit stirring and coping, got it.
>>97067054>>97067042no, its bad dataif i give you a list of times i successfully did backflips, and the list shows that i did 100 backflips without failing once, the burden of proof is not on you to then find another list showing where i didnt do 100 backflips. the burden of proof is on the initial data to be verified backing up its extraordinary statistic with further evidence.
>>97067069The burden of proof is on you to post a better data set if you think this one is incorrect.In any case you have >>97066728 but you don't like this one as well, right?
When are we getting realm rules back?
>>97067091Never, next edition is going to focus on matched play.
>>97067076you fundamentally dont understand how burden of proof works, and frankly im not interested in arguing with a gibbering fool trying to say that factions with 100% and 0% winrates actually exist or that that data is in any way reputableso enjoy the thread i guess.
>>97063663Ah yes I saw this but I’m looking for a more traditional army. Not that bloodthirsters aren’t cool or neat but I like the infantry more >>97063676I’d prefer the unga bunga rumble style. The hero based AoR also is cool but I don’t think it will help me grasp the fundamentals of the game as much as a normal army.I have the khorne vanguard and I’m thinking of getting the Chaos daemons 40K box since it’s lots of points and the blood rushers can join the mighty skull crushers I got to make 6 of either. My problem is filling out the rest of the points with something that can support and improve cohesion. Does khorne often mix between mortal and daemon or do they tend to swing hard one way? Bloodletters and warriors would be a quick way to get an army down but how do you support them respectively?
>>97066947Helsmith bros...it's over
>>97067106>admits to being a shit stirrer having a meltdownkinda pathetic, anon
>>97067069>n-no ulmao fuck off
>>97066938Not Kevin chins finest work
>>97067019> Umm ACKUALLY everything we see in the game and all the special characters are only active in a fraction of the realms!!!Fucking stupid. They over compensated. Makes nothing in any of the realms matter when it's just a fraction of the total space.
>>97067286That's the charm of AoS. You have plenty of space to have your own dudes do stuff that matters.
>>97067286>>97067337I mean, it would work if they further linked the canon maps via realmgates. Then you'd have the cannon slices making up enough of a portion to keep any canon events within them and you could slowly zoom out as territory is needed when stuff starts crowding up. Everything beyond those borders would instantly become /dudes/landia.
>>97067286Nothing in any of the warhammer settings matter in that case. They are all pushed to sell models before anything else.
>>97067337Your own dudes don't matter if there is no meaningful context to set them in, which is AoS's biggest problem.
>>97067337Nothing about the way the game is designed encourages 'your dudes;' ie mandatory special characters that add such powerful and unique buffs you literally gimp yourself if you don't use them> UMMM ACKUALLY PATH TO-even the campaign books focus on areas of narrative importance, the books aren't taking place in a random corner of the map.
>>97067471>>97067541You both have zero imagination.
>>97066938Yeah, fortunately I managed to get a set before they got crazy expensive! But it would be nice
>>97066938Why does she look so smug
>>97067847She gets to stare at this all day
>>97067891Lesbian?
>CA is rumored to be working on something for aosUh oh.
>>97068141Yeah we've known this for a while. They are moving from TWW to AoS for their strategy games.
>>97068141>>97068147You guys are actually retarded 40k has been in the works for a while already
>>97068147I hope not. I hope they do something experimental with the same guys that did the aliens game.
>>97068166>You guys are actually retarded 40k has been in the works for a while alreadyNot by CA, 40k is getting a new Dawn of War game while we are getting a CA Total War game you retard.
>>97067903Every daughter of khaine aelf is at the least pan and at the most full morathisexual and want to make her happy at all costs.
>>97068289take it to reddit, retard
>>97068338What did he mean by this
>>97067002dunno, the spear of mallus? it's not exactly arrow shaped but it's an important enough feature
>>97063861>blueso step one is understanding what colors those are, it's a blueish green with deep reddish purple accents at the tips of the flames. It reminds me a lot of onibi, ghostly japanese flame spirits. >>97064008I liked the old chaos dwarf designs, but there is a concern that new units would more closely resemble StD with how they design them as spikey black and red chaos warriors, which I'm not really into.
>>97064140>>97064161I think most people into warhammer are on board with the slayer concept, but it takes a special kind of person to say "yes I will run 50 of these naked midgets please"
>>9706640740k is also an open setting where they can just create and destroy planets or do you think every planet is accounted for? You have some famous planets and those would be equivalent to certain cities in AoS.
>>97064785I could have forgiven the unpainted models except>dedicated game table>dedicated room full of wargaming terrain>not a single painted mini, didn't even prime the spells in the basic red color or anythingweird priorities man
>>97064942>two guys minding their fucking business playing a casual game and some grognard has to tell them what they're doing isn't GW sactioned t-sports compliant gamingI fully believe these people exist in 40k but it's weird to hear about it for AoS
>>97067471Same in 40k.
>>97064514As I understand it, your entire gameplan as ogres is to line up a charge and explode the enemy in one go. This either works or it doesn't. >>97064525they've been saying this for like 2 years. Do we have actually hard confirmed leaks with models pics yet?
>>97068491an army of slayers isn't a bad ideathe execution was badthey needed the full spectrum of units for an army and instead got practically one unit, 4 weapon options and one monsterthat's no army
>>97065122I want spells of Chamon but I don't see them doing that. This probably would have been a better way to do the generic spells, but they didn't. I suppose they could always redo the spells this way, whenver a magic rework happens to come out.
>>97066182He's brain broken. Daily reminder Pakistan and India weren't even seperate countries 100 years ago, you are all one and the same, dustjeet.
>>97067017>casual players just get fucking stomped by gargantsI 100% believe this from what I've seen at local games. You beat the DPS check and kill them or you lose. Very unsatisfying to deal with
>>97068550honestly they should just expand on the spearhead package with battlefields sets to represent the realms in their entirety>2x hysh/ulgu doublemat + 2x elven ruins and crystals scenery + 3 hysh spells + incarnate + 3 ulgu spells + incarnate>2x chamon/aqshy doublemat + 2x dwarfs ruins and rocks scenery + 3 aqshy spells + incarnate + 3 chamon spells + incarnate>2x shyish/ghur doublemat + 2x giant bones and evil trees scenery + 3 shyish spells + incarnate + 3 ghur spells + incarnate>2x ghyran/azyr doublemat + 2x age of myth ruins and aqualiths + 3 azyr spells + incarnate + 3 ghyran spells + incarnate
>>97068541>an army of slayers wasn't a bad idea>it was a bad idea to only make an army of slayersglad we're on the same page
>>97068604shit nigger, you're not at any page, you didn't even open the damn book
>>97068598uhh uhh no tho because azyr is like super dupor protected and if theres a fight in azy thats not canon nuh uh not canon bro no no
>>97065745They will go back to TOW as they are from WFB.
>>97068628we will have our breach into azyr, eventually
>>97068644it would be such a fucking kino edition opening, Archaon busting into heaven and having his great duel with Sigmar he loses but actually wins because he made Sigmar depressed
Do I:Start a Cities of Sigmar Army Start a Stormcast Eternal ArmyStart a Soulblight Gravelords ArmyStart a Maggotkin of Nurgle ArmyStart a Night Lord Army Start a World Eater Army Start a Emperor's Children Army
>>97068650>archaonorcs deserve this winthey got fucking robbed with 3rd edition
>>97068658>CoSabout to get a big wave>SCEdime a dozen kits so probably cheapest choice>SBGLYA LIKE HORSES?>MoNAbout to get a big wave huge stonks>NLLiterally only one kit, otherwise it's just blue Black Legion>WEsure but the choices will be slim>ECsure but you get no vehicles
>>97068658can we still consider maggotkin a pseudo space marine army? they dont even really have the armor beyond the rotswords. anyways>5(4?) space marine considerations I cant in good faith tell you to start cities because its a pain to paint and you will sell it off halfway through. personally id choose between maggotkin or gravelords. Nightlords are cool but I think fucking ironhands are getting more support soon.
>>97068676WARRIORSIT'S IRON WARRIORSIRON HANDS ARE THE LOYALISTS WITH THE DECAPITATED PRIMARCH
>>97068676>>97068685Iron Warriors might be getting a separate army like World Eaters and Emperor's Children.
>>97068666>>97068676Will I really suffer if I go CoS? Is it really that hard to paint?
>>97068711very. I think we had a living city dude here who spent a better part of a month just painting the steel helms.
I bought a 3d printed great unclean one from etsy. In case anyone is on the fence, for $40 you can get a pretty sick model. I haven't painted any nurgle yet, but I am pretty stoked to paint this thing
>>97068713>who spent a better part of a month just painting the steel helmsThey don't look that hard ro paint. A lot of detail but it's just metal, cloth and wood.
>>97068598>elven ruins>dwarfs ruins>age of myth ruinsfuck that noise, natural scenery of the realms or nothing
>>97068811GW has to make environmental art that isn't nebulous voids of dust and shapes first.
>>97068834but that works fine too, an ulgu table could be filled with nothing but wandering smoke effects and slaanesh's chain anchored to the ground or laying brokensame shit with chamon, with floating metaliths and bismuth shit
Dok should get a dragon mount.
>>97068736Damn that guys sweet
>>97068711The scheme in your pic is pretty achievable, that living city guy is a nutcase and chose lime green trim on white armour with red freehand. It was always going to take him forever
>>97068950DoK are getting squatted soon.
>>97068950Dark elves already had a bitch elf on a dragon, but you cucks wanted some microfaction bullshit instead.
>>97068950A refreshed dragon would be cool, yeah. Though aren't sorceresses with dragon mounts actually in CoS? Always felt like an oversight.
HoH are starting to compete.
>>97069021Yes they are CoS. Dragons are Malerions gimmick and are probably getting moved to his army when it has a release.
>>97069025Lots of potential there if the one guy who bought them managed to 5th place a tournament
>>97069040>Dragons are Malerions gimmickNo they aren't, the ordo serpentis has nothing to do with malerion any more than the daughters of khaine do.
>>97069040>>97069106Did they ever explain malerion's draconic form from early aos? I'm aware he didn't fuse with seraphon like people thought, but what the fuck is going on there?
>>97069138Malerions official lore now is that is true form is pure shadow and he can appear anyway he wants, including as a dragon. Most of the time these days he just looks like an Aelf, though.
>>97069138>Did they ever explain malerion's draconic form from early aos?It's never mentioned at all.
>>97069156>>97069159Mhm, I see. I hope he keeps it when/if he ever shows up. I guess it could also be a double model situation like with morathi, would be relatively thematic.
>>97068734That’s one of EmanG’s TWW rips. He got sued after multiple lawsuit notices cause he was selling them. You can still find what I hope is all of them on the gram. I’m actually thinking of printing a skarbrand and a crap ton of bloodletters cause I’m not about to pay for those ancient bloodletter sculpts and that overpriced skarbrand. It’s mostly Skaven and chaos demon stuff that I’ve found with some other factions here or there.I literally have that same GUO but the chains on the flail broke off and I changed my mind about painting and fielding one. So it’s just stuck in limbo.
>>97069213>I literally have that same GUO but the chains on the flail broke off and I changed my mind about painting and fielding one. So it’s just stuck in limbo.perfectly on brand lmao.
>>97069156He should appear with bigger tits than morathi to make her jealous and go to war with him
>>97069253>bigger tits than morathithat's a low bar, she's a flat hag
why would sylvaneth use a cogfort?
>>97069262they wouldnt
>>97069262giving every grand alliances a cogfort is fucking retarded, why would death armies use them? Why would sylvaneth or Idoneth use them? What about seraphon?
>>97069262The cogfort was built with wood gathered from a sacred grove, the sylvaneth slaughtered the builders and reawakened the woodwork, which now sprouts with new life that grows over and through the cogfort.Where there was once a machine armored in dead wood, there's now a liberated sylvaneth wearing a dead machine, a symbol of resiliency and vengeance.But it's going to look like shit if you're not good at conversions.
>>97069304They're excuses to convert your own appropriately themed proxies at worst.
>>97069017>posts TOW model
>>97069138He is a shadow demon
>>97068526>Mournfang are replaced by Rhinox sad
>>97066947>TBattles app
>>97069346Nah mournfangs were ugly as hell. I should probably hold my tongue though cause who knows what rhinox will look like in the end.
>>97069334your army is a tow army with tow characters
I thought it was a fantasy battle army. Not the of world.
>>9706936415 year old tourists don't know the difference
>>97069346nobody said anything about rhinoxens replacing mournfangs, just that mournfangs are getting updatedand if anything people were sad when gw made those fucked up pitbull sabertooths instead of making the fw rhinox cavalry in plastic
>>97069304>shyishGiant bone construct >sylvanethGiant ent crab>idonethGiant lobster enchanted construct>seraphonGiant gold mechanical dinosaur with magic gatling laser
>>97069262because their queen-goddess Alariel forced them to use them.
>>97069357You shut your mouth, they're funny little shitbulls
>>97069304They will probably be very different from the normal Cogfort (metal, cannons, and steam). For example, the Silvanet's will surely be some construct made of trees, the Seraphon's some kind of heavily armored giant dinosaur, and the Idonet's some kind of mobile fortress made of coral. And the only similarity they will have with a normal Cogfort will be the name, and nothing else.
>>97069414Cogfort Crabfort is an excellent idea
>>97069304>>97069566Huh? They'll just be regiment of renown options for every grand alliance, like gargants.
This sounds an awful lot like when 40k tried to give every faction Flyers or every faction Knight mecha. It ends up warping the game horrifically or being abandoned to obscurity within a few years.
>>97069571they're not releasing a cogfort kit for each army
>>97069589Yeah, a mercenary RoR at most
>>97069571It'll be a one off >>97069601 which makes sense considering how expensive cogforts will be, would be better for gw to have them spread out instead of only in 1 army. Same thing happened with megas.Gargants also aren't as big a deal as knights because aos has no toughness system, you don't need a dedicated anti knight tax in every list to deal with them, presumably cogforts will also not suffer from this. Would be cool to have some kind of facing mechanic though.
I want more rumors
>>97069642Only thing that’s left are the end of edition stuff, underworlds and potentially Warcry, bl, narrative books, and uh… that’s it.
>>97069642Honestly basically every major release left in 4th got leaked at this point, only some pity heroes and I guess underworlds stuff is left.Speaking of which, what's happening with underworlds right now? Haven't heard anything about them since the new spitewood stuff.
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>>97064942>Is there something wrong with the faction?Visually they kinda suck ass with the handsome squidward skull faces and noses.
>>97068658Stormcast but you paint them like your favorite 40k chapter
>>97068711if you do something mono color like this, you'll be fine. If you want something with as more colors and individually painted bits like the box color scheme, then yeah, it's going to take you a bit.
>>97069213looks like it's still possible to find some of the STL files. I have to try printing one of these but I don't know how easy it'll be, I've only got a filament printer, not a resin one.
>>97069262I think they could get a "cogfort" that's more of a moving tree like the ravenous gnarl oak.
>>97069304>sylvanethbig tree fort>IDKAn underwater themed fort with glass domes would be tight as shit>Seraphonprobably the hardest to do well. It would either be something more like the dread saurian or bastiodon that has a platform on top or a magical mesoamerican temple themed mechanical fort that was part of their space ships or whatever, but I really doubt they'd go in that direction.
>>97068650No, fuck off with this retreading of fagtasy battles story where "chaos inevitably wins hurr durr." Its been done, its boring and predictable like a wet soft turd sliding down a glass panel. You already know its gonna leave a disgusting smear and its gonna smell even worse. 95% of the fucking realms are completely unexplored, lets have an edition set in chamon, or an edition set in ulgu and hysh.All we've gotten so far is ghur, ghyran, aqshy and shyish.
