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Ba Sing Se Edition

>Bans (new)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97055082

>TQ
Post your favorite nonbasic land.
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Ten bans in one year and still no powerful white card decks after 8 years of fire design. Gavin should hang for this.
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>>97065945
>TQ
i miss stasis
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>TQ
I think Fountainport might be my favourite, but Ba Sing Se has been doing a ton of work for me recently and is rising up the list quickly.
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>>97065945
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Thread Question
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>TQ
Nothing beats a turn two boom//bust
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>>97066007
This was the first land I ever saw that didn't make mana and I found it very odd because of that.
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>tq
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>>97066099
And now you see a land that only taps for mana and you think it's unusable garbage
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>>97066013
>Needs 5 basic swamps to be mana positive
This card sucks
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I hate when mythic rares solve the weaknesses of limited
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>>97066028
Used to love this fucker in Elspeth STAX.
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>>97065945
There is no problem with Ba Sing Se.
End of discussion.
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>>97066163
Even if it was a swamp it would still suck.
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Bought a collector’s booster from Best Buy because I had a $20 off coupon, and even then it wasn’t worth it. I can’t believe whales buy whole boxes of this.
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Where are Lorwyn spoilers? Have Never Ending Spoiler Season come to an end?
>>97066163
It is good in commander.
Other than that it at least doesn't etb tapped (not that it matters in FIRE formats)
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Are anons really losing their minds over manlands now?
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>>97066322
Idgaf about manlands but that land that makes the unblockabke 1/1’s is a bitch in limited rn unless I build a crazy aggro deck
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Do you guys think Thalia is a virgin? I know you fucking faggots make jokes about her and the Gitrog Monster, and if I could I would find all of you and stomp your necks in like George Floyd, but I cant. I already found the discords of 2 LGSs that used that disgusting picture of her holding baby frogs and flooded their server with gore and shit and just whatever other disgusting pics and gifs I could link from /b/. And I made sure they knew why, on 4 different accounts using protonVPN.

Anyway I feel like Thalia is most likely a virgin. She is a warrior priestess and very pure hearted and virtuous. It makes me upset to think how pure she is and how I am disgusting and have had sex with brown women and already made myself impure. I try not to have impure thoughts about Thalia but the thought of being with her on her wedding night makes my heart ache. I wish I wasnt such dysgenic trash. She's so beautiful and kind and brave. I can't think of any man on earth good enough for her. I want her to remain chaste, but she doesn't deserve to die alone. But I don't think she would have sex before marriage. She is a cathar. Are any of them married or in relationships? I've read all of her stories and never saw anything about it.
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>>97066322
It's just not that good.
Stating that fact is hardly
>losing their minds
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>>97065945
>no war within the walls
>doesn't have a truce effect
this set is so fucking skindeep and soulless
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>>97066341
Are her pubes white?
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>>97066358
Anon, the whole point of that saying is that it's a lie. The war had crept into the city, giving it a truce effect is the midwit option.
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>>97066358
Why would it have a truce effect?
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>>97066341
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>>97066215
A bigger question is why is it white at all?

Dualblade is very red coded. maybe even rakdos. Good dualblades gameplay feels like you're a velociraptor on crack.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nGKZaCJYXms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5z9MdYd0mk

What part of ARCH-DEMON MODE sounded like stodgy old man of the cloth?
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>>97066427
White has double strike and is famous for beating you to death with repeated low power attacks.
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Firebending? What's that? Should we test it?
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>>97066448
Playing an 1RR card just to not lose the mana from firebending is worse then just building to play at instant speed
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>>97066464
i don't know...
is there maybe a loli who want to get pumped by one mana red spells?
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>>97066413
I have a girlfriend but she is drifting away from me and I find myself thinking about Thalia instead of her.
My gf is probably cheating on me with a black guy so if I mentally think about Thalia it's not as bad I guess.

>>97066372
No don't talk about her like that.
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>>97066480
Loli’s should always be pumped
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>havent fought against amulet since 2018
>amulet does non deterministic loops now woth aftermath analyst, shifting woodlands and lotus field
>turn takes 5-10 minutes at BEST
What the FUCK is this shit, Amulet used to just windmill slam titan, do a couple of karoo bounces then do sunhome or the occasional hivemind pact wtf
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is this game even alive? it's in this weird spot where no one really seems to care about it anymore but it still gets support from wotc.
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>>97066664
Casual paper magic will never die but FNM and such is kind of drying up. In a couple of years magic will mostly be about collecting. I think the future is in community driven formats.
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>>97066644
don't worry, there is a large sentiment growing about having something from titan banned because of this new iteration of the deck, I don't think it is surviving another 2 B&Rs, specially since it got called out by name in the most recent one
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>>97066726
I refuse to believe the collecting aspect of MTG is anywhere near as big as Pokemon. Certainly not big enough for Wizards to think it's a good idea to destroy all organic support for the game by printing 7 sets a year.
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>tq
Behold, the coolest non basic ever made
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>>97066736
>It's a great time to play Modern.
>That sort of combo isn't inherently problematic, but we are becoming increasingly aware of some tournament logistical issues that can arise with a deck as complicated as Amulet Titan when its win rate necessitates widespread adoption in a format.

It will get banned because the deck pilots hold up tournament play. Theres never been a better time to play modern horizons block constructed
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>turn 4 34 damage from hand
this is not ok
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>mfw I read the MH announcement
Fucking lmao
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>>97066898
i hope this means people are getting tired of random collabs, total UB death
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>>97066748
I think it's more to do with pack addicts and resellers. Singleton formats attract pack addicts because you're not getting play sets of rares and mythics from opening a box. Then you get to trade cards with your pod.
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>>97066752
I had a friend back in the day that use to call this the jew land.

>>97065972
This. I too miss Stasis, and I want it on Arena.
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>>97066786
>block constructed
isn't it more like Set Constructed?
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>>97066898
>>97066940
It means Capcom blew a gasket because of how shit the SLD was. They saw the Sony one thinking oh thats ok I guess and got an even shittier deal
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>8K a pop
>boxes keep plummeting to 300 dollars
I miss Final Fantasy, I am gonna skip this collector box
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>>97066341
>Anyway I feel like Thalia is most likely a virgin.
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>>97067080
And to think if that stupid token wasn’t a CB exclusive we would’ve never gotten this reluctant breeding masterpiece
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>store cute tranny sending me infinite messages in a row and reacting to everything I write with a heart
it might be over for me, bros
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>>97067165
get her pregnant, anon
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i'm starting to think prof copes with alcohol absitence with tranny buttfucking
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>>97067165
Any hole's a goal anon
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>>97067165
Are you that guy who was also married?
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>>97066748
>I refuse to believe the collecting aspect of MTG is anywhere near as big as Pokemon
not really a fair metric when pokemon is the biggest collector game in the world
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Cuts?
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>>97067189
Yeah. It was fine before but today the flirting definitely went overboard, I wouldn't even want my partner to dream about any of that
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>>97067071
me too bro
if every set had Collector's boxes worth as much as FF I could pay my rent with just the win-a-box weekend each month
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>>97067208
Well the good part is you're not in too deep yet which means you can cut it off and do some reflecting.
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>>97067165
Are you going to venture into his dungeon?
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>>97067165
Get right with God
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>>97067193
You know we’re reaching the collapse when so many people are scalping and “collecting” cards that nobody even plays with
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>>97067317
Spiderman has somewhat turned people against scalping since it was so fucking dogshit. I suspect they will return for the Star Trek the Hobbit sets.
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>>97067165
just how shit is your marriage that you would consider throwing it away for a man
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>>97067165
You have better luck than me. My store tranny looks/smells like they just got out of bed, and wears ill-fitting clothes where they accidentally do an indecent-exposure just by casually moving, and they casually adjust their groin/ass and go back to touching their cards. One time I was paired with them and I lost. I hate it.
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>>97067202
your two white cards (and your white sources), the two Swampsnare traps (it's subpar and there's a ton of bounce and sac that can hose it), your cat-gator (your deck isn't consistently going late), the battle fan, and imo an otter penguin
you have a very solid Dimir tempo deck and I don't think you should branch out
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what's wrong with the monster hunter sld? how'd they fuck itu p?
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>>97067369
They are just existing cards with different arts and names and they don't highlight monster hunter mechanics. They are even sloppier than the usual slop so Capcom told them to fuck off
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>>97067369
Dota 2 just did a MH collab and they gave every hero a MH monster icon. The art is bad, the flavor is bad, the mechanics are bad and they are even spelling mistakes.

You can tell when the wizards dev care.
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>>97067344
you really do paint an abhorrent image, jesus. How could you lose to them?
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>>97065945
The speed at whoch standard rotates is fucking BLISTERING. By the time I get a deck finished, it's from a meta that was 4 sets and 2 ban cycles ago and has to face a completely new era of threats, unprepared, basically every 7 weeks. It's fucking exhausting. The speed combined with the power of the cards WotC is shitting out is really making it hard to even predict what next week will look like with standard. Which would be awesome, if it wasn't for the fact that inevitably the culprit is some $80 card that maintains relevancy for all of 1 set, which means it may very well be worth less than a roll of charmin by the next rainstorm.

How the fuck are you guys keeping up with this shit???
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>>97067498
Nobody is keeping up with $1000 standard deck that rotates after a ban bro, only Wizard is printing infinite money in some Nebraska pig farm we never heard of.
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>>97067498
by being good at draft and playing Arena
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>>97067498
>How the fuck are you guys keeping up with this shit???
I think I stopped taking nu-standard seriously around bloomburrow, I was kind of excited about playing my rakdos lizards deck for an extra year but in practice the deck felt obsolete before the year was over.

I only "keep up" with eternal formats (pioneer to vintage + pauper) now, in the sense that I specifically choose to play feast or famine decks like modern red belcher or legacy storm so I don't have to update them as often and still do my thing.
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>>97067498
>basically every 7 weeks.
what's hilarious is that the stated reason for 3 year Standard was because players were supposedly not getting into Standard because they didn't want to get into a format where their cards would rotate
now it's like: yeah, your cards won't rotate. for 1-3 years... unless you care about, you know, winning. in which case they will rotate in 2 months lol
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I miss viv already
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>>97067702
The combo above doesn't work well. You can't pay the Harmonize cost with the extra red. It doesn't kill in 1 turn for a 3 card combo. There's no trample either.
Firebending isn't part of the standard meta right now.
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>>97067702
>shocks your firebending student
What now retard lmao
This deck is only good against uninteractive aggro slop
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>>97067530
Even on arena the pace is tough. In paper it's just not doable unless you want to risk your $500 deck getting made obsolete every set. Seriously it's fucking insane, standard wasn't even close to this powerful when I left the first time. It was getting a little fast, but decks weren't being made unusable within weeks of their core cards hitting the shelf.
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/designing-avatar-the-last-airbender-allies-clues-and-lessons
Investigate was cut because it had too much connotations with detectives.
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>>97067743
I assume the plan is on t3 you cast wild ride then bulk up on student, then swing in and flashback the bulk up for 20 power. Not that great, but it does kill in 1 turn if your opponent somehow has no blockers or removal.
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>>97067745
>2 for 1 you
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>>97067743
>The combo above doesn't work well. You can't pay the Harmonize cost with the extra red.
T2 Play student
T3 Play wild ride, then bulk up to make it an 11/3, attack, firebend 11, play bulk up for its flashback cost, now you have a 23/3 attacking someone with two lands on turn 3 if you went first. And you've got enough leftover mana to shit out burn spells on any blockers if you need to.
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>>97067756
>Investigate was cut because it had too much connotations with detectives.
IT'S THE FUCKING DETECTIVE MECHANIC YOU IDIOTS

>Bushido was cut because it had too much connotations with Samurai
>Ninjutsu was cut because it had too much connotations with Ninjas
>Toxic and Infect were cut because they had too much connotations with Phyrexia
>Firebending, Earthbending, Waterbending and Airbending were cut because they have too much connotation with Avatar
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW CAN THEY BE SO FUCKING RETARDED I DO NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE SO FUCKING STUPID WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
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>>97067778
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW CAN THEY BE SO FUCKING RETARDED I DO NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE SO FUCKING STUPID WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
Money printer goes brrrrrrrr
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>>97067743
>>97067771
it's almost like you have 6 floating mana if you save 6 for the second bulk to clear the path from the 12 fucking mana the firebending gives you
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>>97067774
2 for 1 who? If they have a chump blocker your redirect lightning is worthless. If they don't and they have removal who are you redirecting it to?
Also additional interactions turn this into a 4-5 cards combo that requires untapping and opponent not shocking the thing on an empty board.
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IF YOU DON'T WANT THE DETECTIVE MECHANIC IN YOUR SET THEN DON'T PUT THE FUCKING DETECTIVE MECHANIC IN YOUR SET HOLY FUCK HOW ARE THEY SUCH FUCKING TITANS OF IMPOSSIBLE INFINITE UNFATHOMABLE NON-EUCLIDEAN STUPIDITY HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
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>>97067794
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>>97067778
it was brewed back then when defund the police was the current thing and detectives are basically cops

that's literally it, the rest are just excuses and pilpul
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Considering we are almost entering in the last month of this year… How you feel about 7 sets next year anon?
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>>97067824
honestly I would rather just not think about it
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>>97067824
>How you feel about 7 sets next year anon?
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>>97067824
Like it's time to start playing pre-MH modern

Standard is DEAD. Legacy is RAPED. Modern is ROTATED. Commander is GAY. Pauper is DYING.
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>>97067824
>the Rape of Lorwyn
>KAMIGAWABUNGA!
>Harry potter hat set
>MCU shit when MCU fatigue is at it's peak
>Rangs of power tier shit
>Planar chaos 2 - electric boogaloo
>Star Drek

I can't think of something more grim
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>>97067824
I still am working through BRO so I'm actually looking forward to this schedule. I need to catch up.
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>>97067824
I don't really feel much of anything at all.
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Here's how you fix modern.
>Ban MH cycle
>Ban UB sets
And most important feature of all:
>Ban the 10% most expensive in each rarity to prevent power creep
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>>97067824
I will be enjoying what I can from the Star Trek set, everything else I have given up on.
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>>97067859
I like Planar chaos thobeit
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>>97067883
how about you just play a community format
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>we are gonna have to see the ang appa infnite combo resolve several times on the pro tour
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>>97067824
Magic is fucking dead, seven products and 4 of them UB shitty crossovers, but no worries because we still will have… TURTLES!!!
TURTLES FOREVER MAN!!!
KAMIGAWABUNGA!!!!
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>>97067916
you're part of the problem
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>>97067824
The phrase "Unannounced Universes Beyond" terrifies me on such a primal level.
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>>97067923
>monkey paw curls
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>>97067778
>IT'S THE FUCKING DETECTIVE MECHANIC YOU IDIOTS
Except it isn't, investigate was released 7 years before the first detective was ever printed. At this point they are just making shit up to justifyc their incompetence.
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>>97068018
It's the ninja turtle one
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Made a cube with 80 Phoenix Fleet Airships. Would you play it?
https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/ccd7a3d8-460f-401c-8bf1-c5f3a096ec6d
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>>97068013
Don't care, go cry in the /edh/ thread
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>>97067824
I'll still play Magic as a casual player, but I am done taking this game 'seriously' or playing in any sweaty capacity. I am probably also done with 60-card formats entirely.
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>>97067824
I enjoy some UB sets on their own. If the design is okay like Avatar and FF. It helps when there are cute girls who aren’t black or manly.

But the big issue I have is when you start mixing them. When you have shit from every universe together it just fucks with my immersion. It was okay for WU because at least it was all the magic setting. It was fantasy stuff with planeswalkers and kind of had its own 6 and lore. You could suspend your disbelief. But when it’s a bunch of iconic characters, weapons, SPACE SHIPS, or whatever the fuck I just can’t believe AssCreed, LotR (wokified to shit), 40k, final fantasy, FUCKING NEW YORK HOT DOG STANDS AND BAGELS, and whatever else can make a cohesive setting.

Fuck UB. Fuck WoTC. Fuck “social justice” which is now just black washing everything. Fuck the “modern audience”. Fuck “commander”. And especially FUCK THE PAYPIGS WHO ENABLE THEIR FUCKING SHIT!
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>>97068053
>I'm just a dumbass dickbrained gooner who masturbates to chinese AI cartoon art
>But this is everyone else's fault
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>>97068046
Bro ... the "casual" players of this game i.e. commander players sink thousands of dollars into the game per set. You probably aren't as casual as you think.
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>>97068046
Anon, just by merit of interacting here in an online forum concerning the game, you're in like the top 20% of investment.
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>>97067824
Genuinely the most depressing image I've seen in weeks.
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>>97067859
I like ninja turtles
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>>97067824
Build a cube
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>>97068140
what are ya, 9?
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>>97068046
I'm in the same boat except the 60 card thing, I'm never playing another highlander format again. If you allow 4c to be a thing its a solved format.
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>>97067208
>partner
What's with this faggot terminology? You have a wife, not a partner, stupid faggot. Why even bother getting married if you're going to sideline the title that comes with it in favor of word you'd refer to a coworker as?
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>>97068149
People who grew up with TMNT are closer to 40
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>>97067702
I see you want to pump the loli
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90s/2000s fantasy is dead.
The last franchise that had any impact was Game of Thrones and even that was an adaptation.
Not much media makes it anymore unless it's an adaptation or remake. Usually a remake.
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>>97067756
Rage bait post that ignores the objective critique of Investigate in the following paragraph.
>Investigate (originally created for Shadows over Innistrad) was the first mechanic we ever made that created a specific artifact token. But over the last ten years, we've created many new artifact tokens, including some we use quite often like Treasure and Food. None of these tokens have a special word to create them, so the word investigate feels a little outdated and sometimes even confusing.
If you want to be butthurt about something go back to sitting on cock faggot. Investigste is the odd one out.
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>>97068149
https://youtu.be/CMNry4PE93Y
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>>97068177
>90s/2000s fantasy
How would someone make media of the 90s/2000s without it being an adaptation or remake, anon?
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>>97066940
I mean it just means people want the collabs to be well-made, especially for more Magic-adjacent properties like MH. Typos, weird card choices, etc.
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>>97068179
>Investigate as a keyword the entire set
>Nah people (aka Retards) will be confused if we use this all the time
Imagine thinking FLYING is too confusing if the creature is a spirit and doesn't have wings or isn't explicitly flying in the art.
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>>97067756
>create keywords to shorten card text
>stop using them because feel like it
we going to ygo wall of text by 2027
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>>97068192
Pre-UB Magic was 90s fantasy on life support. A very specific sort of long-running, franchised universe that doesn't do very well anymore in any sector unless it's a remake. Marvel was an exception for a bit, hence the Jace and the superfriends era trying to cash in on that, but even Marvel struggles now.
Not saying that UB is better. It's a lot worse. But things aren't going back to how they were.
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>>97068066
And fuck this faggot in particular
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>>97068222
Until they cut out art to add a second text box while also reducing font size, yugioh will be unbeaten.
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>>97068245
we already have second text boxs, they are just on another cards
>the ring temps
>dungeons
>monarch
>initiative
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>>97068234
What the fuck is 90s fantasy, anon? That's what I'm asking. "90s fantasy" isn't a genre, that's just a broad list of media you feel nostalgic about. No shit newer stuff won't make you feel that way, you're not an impressionable child anymore.
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>>97068254
Long-form original franchised fantasy. Shit's dead, anon.
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>>97068254
90's fantasy was pre-multiverse masturbation, pre-crossover infinity era, 90's fantasy still had some respect among OGs as actually being FANTASY. Not just Marvel Superheroes without a comic book.
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>>97068245
Yugioh doesn't even have double faced cards
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>>97068261
How many fucking new franchises do you think spawn every year? Long lasting franchises are rare as hell. The 90s did not have significantly more than we do now.

>>97068268
When was the last time you opened a book? There's still plenty of good stuff, you're just not going to find it in a card game. Hell, most of the Magic story in the 90s would not be anything to brag about either.
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>powercreep in mtg is not that bad bro
>1 mana creature with good stat that acts as card draw engine that self flips into game winning planeswalker that ults every other match is normal bro
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the monster hunter redo better have the sexy armor as equipment
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>>97068291
>Just give up.
>Read some new slop.
>Stop wanting more.
>Just settle for what you have.
Kill yourself nigger.
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>>97068310
no you retard, I'm the one asking you to look for more
you are the one stuck in the past trying to cling onto what you've gotten comfortable with
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>>97068336
Reading comprehension isn't your strongest trait is it? But then again, how could it be?
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I've been hunting to get the FF bundle for a few days and of course my BF is able to somehow fucking order one off Amazon despite the thousands of bots scooping every one of them
How the fuck
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>>97068367
>BF
Tits or gtfo

>But I’m gay
Lol faggot
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>>97068400
yea I'm a faggot what about it
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People out here straight up sticking things up their own ass and have the nerve to be like "Yeah so what?"
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>>97068430
They’re shit fetishists and should seek serious mental health support. Putting your dick in a shit filled ass is absolutely disgusting. Most of them have worms from eating out anuses.
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We love gay, transgender, transbian, and nonbinary individuals in the Magic the Gathering community.
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>>97068444
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>>97068444
>We love Commander players, UB buyers and Islands in MtG
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>>97068200
I mean the key part is clearly moreso that it's outdated. And it's confusing because it's a keyword used to create another keyword, in a sense, and has no purpose outside of that.
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>No more buy-a-box promo for stores after Lorwyn going forward
>lol just buy the promo poster outright at cost
LGS' about to fucking hemorrhage money next year
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>everyone here was saying sweaty loli was going to destroy the meta
>played in literally no decks
APOLOGIZE
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>>97066404
then make it conditional, but that would actually make lands interesting
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>>97066644
It's not non-deterministic, people just don't scoop when they're already dead.
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>>97067824
Avatar brought me back for a week but I'm right back to Shadowverse.
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>>97068068
And they still lose to my for fun Judith aristocrats deck where the newest card is the BR Verge.
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>>97069026
Because unfortunately the large surge of new AT players means a large number of players bungling their own lines from a won position.
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>>97067980
In paper you can just shortcut it. It's only obnoxious online.
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There's an infinite? Made up of two cards in the same set?
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>>97069068
just like EoE
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>>97069072
EoE's infinite required four cards
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Are people who use UBshit shunned at your LGS or has everyone simply accepted it like the beaten wives they are?
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>>97069183
Mine's full of competitive players. Everyone's excited about how strong Avatar is.
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SOVL
4-of in my UR Prowess deck
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>fire nation
>uses lightning
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>>97069241
Somehow wotc keeps fucking up bolts in UB sets
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>>97069068
No, it requires a third card from several sets previous. Unless you're talking about something else.
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>>97067756
>The first time someone learns about Magic: The Gathering® | Avatar: The Last Airbender™, they always ask "Wait, what about black?"
My first question was actually what about green because earthbending doesn't make any fucking sense in green. Things that have to do with rocks are historically red things and I will stand by my opinion that earthbending is not green except for the not very flavourful mechanic they slapped onto it.
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>>97069475
Let's also not forget that "air" isn't exactly white's thing
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>>97069496

but waterbending can't work with anything except blue and fire doesn't work with anything except red.
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>>97069501
Why the fuck can you tap artifacts to pay for waterbending?
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>>97069501
Avatar uses 4 elements and magic has 5 colors
Bending should've just been some UR spellslinging stuff
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>>97069496
I guess it's just one of those dumb things that doesn't work about adapting non mtg properties. This d&d dragon would have been blue in any set other than AFR but it is a white dragon so it has to be white for some reason.
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>>97069506
Females can use artifacts to produce water
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>>97069506
>he doesn't know
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>>97069475
>>97069496
Airbending would actually make more sense in green since green anti flying card are often wind flavored
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>>97068294
I love how WotC cucked out with that "draw your third card each turn" shit and didn't just print the ability "Whenever you cast Brainstorm..." like fuck off, be a man. Do the right thing.
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>>97069661
no anon, as long as you don't explicitly mention something by name, that means it's not parasitic
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>>97067824
Turtles into not-Harry Potter has to be some kind of tax scheme. Why would you kill your own game like that?
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>>97068245
Honestly? No, it's not even close. Magic is worse.

Having played both, Yugioh doesn't use keywords. The most complex YGO cards are much less complex than even middling mid-complexity Magic cards. Magic just hides the effects.

Chaos Emperor Dragon has fucking NOTHING on Spyglass Siren.
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>>97069720
>malice
>incompetence
>greed
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If you actually had to print the effects of a card on the card, everybody would see MTG as the coked up complexity abomination that it truly is.
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>>97068245
Bone crusher giant already satisfies those requirements. yugioh was never a good game, it was lucky enough to launch itself off the back of a MtG parody. Yugioh proves why you need to pay mana for your spells. All of the effects that work in MtG are/were band in yugioh; pot of greed, monster reborn, dark hole
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>>97069735
>yugioh was never a good game,
Its core mechanics are honestly among the best out there. Very gambit and bluff heavy.
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>>97067859
Sadly, Reality Fracture has a 0% chance of being anywhere as good as Time Spiral was.
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>>97069501
No, this is just you misunderstanding what the MtG colours are used for. They do not forcibly correlate to elements.
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>>97069731
i honestly doubt they make it to star trek with this lineup unless they're floating on enough success from Final Fantasy / Avatar to breeze through the year
the amount of Turtles left on shelves and as a result people who don't even give Strixhaven a shot is gonna make Spiderman look like a blockbuster hit

Turtles have been dead since the Michael Bay movies
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>>97069661
brainstorm isn't modern legal, dummy
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>>97069741
What's that card in face down defense mode??? It's man eater bug!!
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>>97069765

yeah, white is fire and green is water!
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>>97069790
Sometimes it's Penguin Soldier, anon.
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>>97069741
The *ideas* are very nice, but mechanically it's very poorly executed
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>>97069823
It's an image board anon, you faggots have no manners.
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>>97069733
This boy looks seasoned. He looks zesty. He looks like he good with pillows and dancing.
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WRONG, YOU FOOLS
I SUMMON BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON IN ATTACK POSITION
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>>97068418
That's bad
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>>97068418
that's pretty gay dude ngl
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We love gay, transsexual, and nonbinary folx in the Magic the Gathering community.
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>>97068418
Return to tradition
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>wake up
>Remember pauperbvlls won again
>Pavpergeddon tomorrow
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>>97070044
“All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”

Shalom!
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>>97070098
What?
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>badgermole cub at $55 trending up
>one shit on g at $40
>riddler at $40
They are pushing standard to be the grind format next year, but who is going to build the t1 decks if the meta rotates each set and you need to spend $300-400 on chase mythics on top of $800+ upfront cost to build your first deck?

The prices are getting so ridiculous they make buying into legacy look attractive.
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>>97070123
Just play cube at this point
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>>97068156
She's gay
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>>97070102
Non-marital sexual activity used to be a crime. It was punishable by stoning. You fags bring disease and sexual trauma into the world. Athiestic faggotry in the west is the worship of bophoment.
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Oh god
I never considered that the Star Trek set would include shit nuTrek stuff
to be clear there are a few bits of GOOD nutrek: '09, Beyond, and season 1 of Prodigy
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>>97070190
>grandstanding about morality in a thread about wasting your time and money on a tcg
Actually rope holy shit
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>>97066341
>Thalianon is a goreposting skinhead now
What other thalianon lore developments have I missed?
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>>97070227
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>>97067980
>opponent has 4 life
>have to wait like 15 minutes through his stupid combo
>passes turn
>I burst lightning him as soon as my lands untap
Gg bro
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>>97066438
red also has doublestrike
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I don't think Badgermole Cub is a fucking 70 dollar card, but it is very good.
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>>97068245
We had that but they thankfully realized it was a mistake
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>>97070227
the pretend christian conservatives who post here and live off mommy & daddy & gubmint gibes are so pathetic
like they could go to any other gaming forum, and they choose the one with a dedicated dickgirls board on a site so infamous for its depravity as to be taboo to the average person, all to pretend to be moral actors while engaging in random time wasting arguments about hobbies shared with children
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>>97070202
there are parts of strange new worlds that's good. but only parts.

>>97068418
>calls self faggot
>posts shota
definitely not beating the allegations
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>>97069733
It's really weird that YGO doesn't use keywords
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>>97070299
the average yugioh player would be tripped up by modus ponens, you can't expect them to link syllogisms without every detail and variation spelled out explicitly
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>>97066322
No, but earthbend is not manlands, they regenerate as lands. Meaning if it dies, or is exiled, it returns as land because lil timmy hates to lose his lands in a game all about lands.
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>>97070303
Nah, you have to understand Chains to play YGO which is more complex than the stack
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>>97070294
yeah, the sheer number of christcuck larpers on *4chan* is hilarious.

i know a lot of them are 2014 Redditfugees forced to be here because their original stomping grounds banned them. But it's still funny to moral purity grandstand in the first ring of Internet Hell.
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>>97070311
*stabs you at a yugioh tournament*
ayo white boi, thanks for these stacks. don't mind if i take ur shoes too? yea, nigga.
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>>97070299
>It's really weird that YGO doesn't use keywords
It is, but it also isn't.
YGO has PSCT, which is a very rigid and standardized wording framework.
Basically, you can parse a YGO card almost instantly if you know the game.
When X: Do Y; Z effect. Once you understand the general layout of card effects, you can just scan over for action words and know what it does immediately.
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>>97066341
In the game lore shes probably virgin but really who cares, WotC doesnt care about her so you can headcanon wahever you want.
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>>97070321
I was the nigga who stole cards at a YGO tournament
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>>97070311
>Nah, you have to understand Chains to play YGO which is more complex than the stack
Honestly I prefer Chains far more than MTG's Stack. Fucking up and missing your timings is a great skill test that BTFOs idiots and it's awesome.
More games need hard skill tests to filter out the retards and casuals.
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>>97070309
WHY
DO
THEY
RETURN
FROM
EXILE????
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY YOU NIGGER KIKES?
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>>97070331
to big a punish to get land destruction on top of creature exile
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>>97070331
because getting your lands nuked feels bad mkay?
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>>97070337
MAKING YOUR LAND A CREATURE FOR FREE SHOULD COME WITH RISKS

LANDS BECOMING A CREATURE SHOULD MAKE THEM VULNERABLE NOT IMMORTAL
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>>97066983
some MH2 cards are still alright, even if MH3 and MH4:LotR have more power pieces.
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>>97070331
timmy no likey feel bad
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>>97070342

but it makes fetches so much better
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>>97070331
A turn two stone rain is a feels bad. That's not very FIRE
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>>97070294
>>97070316
>4chan is a tranny safe space
>How dare these normal heterosexual people invade
I will pray for you
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>>97070299
YGO reeks of very literal translation from Japanese
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>>97070327
ngl i've never played paper yugioh but having judged mtg at shared venues the idea that yugioh is more complex is very, very funny if true. hood niggas sitting down in the library to do calculus type shit.
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>>97070359
invade? this place is the abyss, the best you'll manage is to stare into it from the tourist bus and take it back with you wherever you go.
good luck.
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>>97070342
>LANDS BECOMING A CREATURE SHOULD MAKE THEM VULNERABLE NOT IMMORTAL
This is really the crux of the design failure of Earthbend.

Every action in the game comes with a risk. Managing risk and reward IS. THE. GAME. Having to wait on your Earthbends until later, when removal is spent, would be interesting. Or deciding to Earthbend early because you think the extra pressure is what you need that game, would be interesting.
But instead, WotC has ripped out all the gameplay. In an effort to avoid "feel bad" situations, they have instead killed all decision making in regards to the mechanic. This kills the game. The game is not interesting when you don't have to make decisions.
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>>97070331
We can't have possible downsides on cards anymore
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>>97067165
Just strictly tell it that you're ace+aro, thats the tranny code word for "dont be creepy towards me you weirdo"
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>>97070340
>>97070353
You can clearly pinpoint the moment WotC favored making powerful cards over using any "feels bad" mechanic. A creature can have statlines pushed to high hell and become basically untouchable and unstoppable if you fail to remove it at instant speed the second uts played. But god forbid someone "abuse" basic game mechanics or destroy someones resources. Oh no can't have that, gotta make sure it says "nonland permanent" gotta make sure it says "finality counter" gotta make sure it says "exile this instant and apologize to the player if you cast this counter spell". Tempo? Card advantage? Using zones in creative ways? Nah fuck that shit, here's a creature that becomes a 30/30 with trample on turn 3. And I'm not even talking about mossborn.
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>>97067498
I dont play standard and I dont pay money for the game. This lets me brew on industrial scales.
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>>97070372
who is your translator? they're fucking with you. that literally means "groom me harder daddy"
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>>97070370
>>97070367
>>97070358
Surely they could just errata like they did with companions, r-right? Surely we're not just stuck with immortal, unkillable mana dorks in standard for 3 years right?
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>>97070378
dies to day of black sun + doomblade, not my problem
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>>97070366
This circle of the abyss is for Magic the Gathering. Pulling out your dick is bad manners.

Go be a fag somewhere else >>>LGBT
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>>97070399
Wrong, earthbending is a delayed effect. Static sun still does nothing. Doom blade? Congrats on paying 2 mana and 1 card to see it just pop up again next turn.
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>>97070405
the abyss doesn't have circles, tourist
you're posting with people on hrt who call other people trannies right now, and always have been
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>>97070408
Interesting. However, four Doomblades, four Heartless Acts.
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>>97070362
YGO is combo heaven. It can definitely be pretty complex. But this is all off topic so I'll stop here
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>>97070396
they could have left vivi unbanned if they print pants on head retarded cards anyway
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>>97070408
Only thing that stops it in Standard is pic related but it's a pretty good counter if you're playing white
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>>97070321
The funniest thing about this is that this shit is not even a concern. I go to YGO tournaments in Detroit for regionals and an anime convention even.
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>>97070414
Great, you spent 16 mana to not kill something. Oh and they've probably played 3 or 4 2-for-1s while you were doing that. I sure hope you didn't tap out before they played a landfall creature or something with firebending.
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>>97070311
no it's not, it's just first in first out and then different interaction speeds: Normal, Quick/Trap, Countertrap, chain-stopper. And technically that 4th one isn't even an official speed, fans just call it one.
MTG has literally all of these.

Meanwhile MTG stacks can branch, because YGO, once the chain is established it all resolves, MTG it's still interactable the entire time, even like 4 resolutions deep.

>>97070359
you're allowed to be heterosexual, there's entire porn boards dedicated to that too.

but that's my point, PORN boards, why are you, allegedly christian man, here at all, in this brazen pit of vice and wrath?

>"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
>"Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.” Wake up from your drunken stupor, as is right, and do not go on sinning. For some have no knowledge of God. I say this to your shame." - 1 Corinthians 15:33-34
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>>97070311
Isnt the whole thing with chain that once it starts resolving you cant choose to stop resolving the whole chain with an interrupt, and you have to put it all on chain, and some cards can miss the timing because after something else is put on chain they no linger have the timing to go on chain themselves because if vs when is such a retarded little distinction? That is not more "complex", just more cumbersome for the player. Complexity is in interaction, in player choice, being forced to miss the timing is not choice it's bad game design.
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>>97070436
Ayo cuz, that's cuz even we niggas kno YGO is the promised land, the game of kangz, invented in Egypt and sheeit
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>>97070437
Why would you be doomblading the lands and not the Badgermole Cub? Besides, if you catch them early, they're going to need to tap the lands to Earthbend them.
I've seen players combo off into ten tapped lands just to be reverted by 2-mana black sun by blowing their wad too soon, and if they stall it out, they lose their Cubs and First Metalbenders and whatnot.
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>>97070446
>You're not supposed to be here! Quick google some verses
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>>97070448
It's really just anime nerds. A lot of niggas are playing One Piece these days for the same reason
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>>97070459
>A lot of niggas are playing steal shit and kill people for fun these days for some reason
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>>97070462
The pirates don't do much pirating in One Piece
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>>97070454
desperate, and off-topic. post about mtg. this is your last warning.
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>>97070391
Ace means asexual, aka doesnt do sex
Aro means aromantic, aka doesnt do romance or intimacy
None of this means "groom me harder daddy", it means "go away and stop coming on to me, i aint into this shit."
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>>97070479
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>>97070472
There was one real pirate in the entire history of the One Piece world and he died
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>>97070477
My brother in Christ. You are the one who started this. You are the one talking about pornography and Yugioh. Dare I ask, when was the last time you played Magic the Gathering?
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>>97067824
Lorewyn and reality fracture are the only sets I'm going to be spending money on so it's whatever
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>>97070477
Do you think we'll ever get a New Testament UB?
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>>97067824
I'm unironically interested in Star Trek and will build a cube for it. I'll be skipping everything else
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>>97070492
i'm not that anon, and i'm playing arena right now. don't push it.
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>>97067824
I am so glad I never got into this hobby
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>>97070508
Make it so
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>>97070454
I was a devout christian for the first 25 years of my life. Church of Christ even, so on the pedanticly scholarly side of the faith. I had those off rip.

And again, you're allowed to stay. Just know that no one believes your facade and we're all laughing at you.
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>>97070508
make it all borg and phyrexians, so it's a borg cube.
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>>97070459
I wish living card games would become popular. The trading part of trading card games is my least favorite part of trading card. This guy is selling for $6,999 from there newest set
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>>97070515
>Devout christian
>Prot
Every single time lmao
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Functionally, earthbending is not that different from making tokens. Turning a land into a 1/1 is in fact strictly worse than generating a 1/1 token with haste that can tap separately. There are a lot of creatures that make tokens on ETB. That is fine.
The issue is that it combines going tall and going wide with very little downside, and from far earlier on than should be possible. It's a little like a miniature Craterhoof finisher every single turn. If those lands were still unkillable but capped at like 2/2, I think it would be fine. Earthbend 3 or 4 however is just ridiculous.
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>>97070530
Please explain to me which ETB token farm can actively buff their own token with more token spam with ZERO (0) downside from removal.
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>>97070524
>larping as a tradcath in a thread about wasting your time and money on tcgs
Rope.
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>>97070544
That is my point. ETB tokens and ETB buffs are okay separately, but they should never be combined.
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>>97070523
Same but the collectability is actually a big selling point to people so LCGs always end up doing worse
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>>97070546
You posted this already.
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I think we should all be friends and get along with each other
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>>97070558
For this reason, LCG + collectible alternate arts is ideal, I think.
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>>97070505
Book of Enoch set when
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>>97070524
>catholic
>christian
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>>97070578
If I were designing it I'd do a Old Testament set and a New Testament set
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>>97070578
I'd be down for a biblical apocrypha UB. that seems hype.

and people can't even get mad because it's apocrypha, like it's some guy's fanfiction from millenia ago, not practiced religion, same reason they didn't want hindu gods in kaladesh but theros and amonkhet was fine.
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>>97070578
I attach Buster Sword to Judas and swing at Mary, the Christotokos. In response to your blocks, I pay with the Soul Stone to cast Turtle Time, doubling it with Azula, the Fire Lord.
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>>97070617
Mary (Mother of Christ) prevents all combat damage that would be dealt to either player
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>>97070508
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B04BN_BffyM
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>>97070626
It seems you're right, I use the Quinnjet to exile her. My Turtle Time will enable an extra two turns, so I guess the wasted block is no problem. I use Transporter to return Kirk, Knocking Boots into your Bridge Zone, and since Phasers are still set to Stun, I guess I'll end my turn there.
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I keep seeing people "Naya Toph and Caged Sun go infinite", but I'm not seeing it. Am I missing something, or is it just another case of people not reading and putting Farseek in a mono-green deck?
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Would you guys ever pilot an Arena-draft with a friend? I have an IRL friend, that's our thing we do when we hang out, we play an Arena-draft together and talk through the decisions made as we play. Honestly that IRL friend is the main reason I still follow MTG. The best part of MTG after all is the gathering.
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>>97070559
And you didn't listen. Rope.
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>$60,000 for the full art surge foil ""Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra"
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>>97070646
Happy Thanks Giving. Talk to you later.
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>>97070642
toph and caged sun do go infinite, but it's in a way that draws the game because its non-interactable.

because you're stupid, i will subject you to a youtuber explaining the interaction
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ABFjxQ7yD0Y
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>>97070642
Toph turns caged sun into a land. Caged sun says
>Whenever a land’s ability causes you to add one or more mana of the chosen color, add one additional mana of that color.
So when you tap a forest or something for mana, caged sun adds an extra mana. But because it's a land itself now, it sees that a land's (caged sun) ability added one mana, so it adds another mana. This repeats infinitely and causes a draw because nobody gets priority in response to mana abilities, so nobody can actually do anything until the loop ends, which it never will.
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>>97070598
if the trolls at wotc knew what they were doing they would have followed the LOTR set with this. they can't even grief right.
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>>97070598
Covenant of Abraham 3WU
Enchantment - Saga
I: You become circumcised. Draw a card.
II: Exile all creatures. Create a treasure token for each creature exiled in this way.
III: The next creature you summon gets a Messiah role token. (It gains +1/+1, lifelink, and "Sacrifice this creature: Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.")
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>>97069266
>he doesn't know
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>>97069266
lightning is apparently a kind of fire.

it's one of the few lore things that mtg and atla actually agree on.
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>>97070610
Acts of Paul and Thecla 1GWU
Enchantment - Saga
I: Create two 0/3 white Apostle tokens with Defender. You become baptized.
II: Sacrifice an Apostle you control. Put an indestructible token on another target Apostle you control.
III: Apostles you control gain "Creatures your opponents control can't attack you unless their controller pays {2} for each attacking creature."
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Wake me up when we get to Lorwyn, I only care about the fucked up elementals.
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>>97070679
I see. For some reason, I thought it was people going to do something like "I'm going to tap Caged Sun for mana" and cause the loop; which is why I mentioned the mis-reading
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>>97070787
They did a pretty good job on this guy and his white counterpart. The only complaint I have is that they are two seperate beings and it makes no sense for them to be a flip card.
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>>97070813
Aren't they lorwyn/shadowmoor counterparts?
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Pontius Pilate, Governor of Judaea 7UBR
Legendary Creature - Human Roman Advisor
Ward - Pay 7 life.
When Pontius Pilate enters the battlefield, sacrifice a creature. If you don't, bury Pontius Pilate.
1U: Tap target creature.
2B: Destroy target tapped creature. You lose 1 life and create a treasure token.
3R: Pontius Pilate deals 1 damage to any target for each treasure token you control. You become damned.
6/6
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>>97070757
lightning is fire but faster
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>>97070843
Universes Beyond: Christianity but they make Jesus black
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>>97070839
No, they are two seperate strange elementals, but they take alternating naps while the other wanders around the plane.
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>>97070787
Have you seen the flower doggo pupper, I wonder?
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>>97070865
It can be like the Spider-Man set. A separate Jesus card for each denomination and belief. Adds utility to tutors such as Mary, Christotokos and and Simeon, Patient Prophet too!
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>>97070843
"I am innocent of this man’s blood; see to it yourselves"
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>>97070878
Don't care. They can print out the cutesy shit for people too, I don't need to care about all 200+ cards.
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>>97070325
Yeah there's not likely to be any romance for her. WotC doesn't put romance in their stories cause it would make too much of their playerbase sad inside.
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>>97070889
>A separate Jesus card for each denomination and belief
I can't wait to pull Mormon Jesus at prerelease
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE
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>>97070889
>A separate Jesus card for each denomination and belief.
Actual comedy kino.

Actually, since we're doing Jewish and Christian apocrypha, can we throw in Islamic too, have the full abrahamic suite?

I really want a Yakub card.
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>>97071087
>not white thrulls
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This doggo has been doing work in my cube lately. Has he been left in the dust by power creep at this point?
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>>97070917
Oracle text doesn't lie. You gain the damned role for the rest of the game.

>>97070954
I see it as a Shards set. Draft archetypes:
WUB: Hebrews. Focus on exile (WU) and treasure tokens (UB) with an aristocrats subtheme (WB.)
UBR: Romans. Classic Grixis aggro-control with Advisor tribal.
BRG: Philistines and pagans. Classic Jund ramp and "big spells."
RGW: Genesis tribal. Go-wide "world creation" strategy with a land destruction subtheme.
GWU: Christians. Pillowfort/defender with Exalted creatures to break parity.

>>97071087
Can't cash in on such a valuable property all at once, anon. You need to wait for next year's Islamic Jihad set for the long-awaited return to Rabiah.
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>>97071121
kytheon flips into a planeswalker and fagavan ramps and steals yo shit and hastes out of an empty board
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>>97071121
>Has he been left in the dust by power creep at this point?
Unfortunately yes.
We have 2/2s with keywords and upside now.
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>>97067165
ask your wife for a threesome.
a lot of women are secret fujoshis.

I know there's a reputation that you lose your wife's respect for gay sex.
But that's only if you're bottoming. Being a BVLL only makes you more appealing, because women's opinions of things are always like 40% crowdsourced, so more people thinking you're a stud means she'll think you're more of a stud.

I'd just mention to her that the tranny QT has been flirting with you nonstop, like offhandedly show her the texts like you're amused at it, and if your wife suddenly seems interested rather than defensive or jealous, you know you're in.
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>>97067344
mmm, girlfailure dickgirl
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>>97067369
well for starters

>>97065395
>>97065484
>>97066245
>>97066427
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>>97070954
Mormons are a mono-white Christian subtheme with a pretty sick go-wide strategy enabled by their "Polygamy" keyword. Unfortunately, they don't do too well without support from the broader Christian pillowfort strategy, so the Mormon draft deck, while possible, is more of an easter egg than anything.
The mono-black Black Hebrew Israelites, on the other hand, can absolutely clean up.
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>>97071121
lol
lmao
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>>97071184
>imblying Mormons aren't about treasure tokens and ramping lands
You can buy anything in this world with money.
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>>97071153
>Uncommon
Outrageous
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>>97071224
They do fit very well into the Christian pillowfort, Hebrew treasure, or Genesis ramp/LD strategies. That's why they're in Mono-White. They just don't do too well on their own.
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>>97071184
>>97071248
>pillowfort
the archetype name should be Love Thy Neighbor
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>>97071248
They were literally consolidating so much power the government waged war against them. Mormons are basically all preppers. They're like Shadowmoor Kithkin.
Mormonism is dying out now but it isn't because they don't "fit into the Christian pillowfort."
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>>97071260
Do you want text boxes to become cluttered like YGO? The keyword is Agapè.
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>>97071269
I understand that it was an effective strategy in Legacy, but it's just not viable in the latest limited environment. Maybe if they do well this season on Arena.
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>>97067369
I don't know much about monster hunter but none of them have a secondary market value higher than ten bucks and they're charging 30-40 for each LMAO you'd think they'd care more about a monster hunter crossover after plagiarizing the fuck outta IP with ikoria
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Now here's a card I'd like to see banned. Way too much of a bomb for limited.
The Creation: Breath of Life. 1G
I: Create a 0/1 Plant token with "T: Add {G}."
II: You may play an additional land this turn.
III: Put a +1/+1 counter on up to two target creatures. Create a food token.
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>>97071087
These young upstarts are getting too rowdy. We need to RETVRN to TRVE faith. Mono green unga bunga, none of that newfangled shit.
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>>97071314
I think maybe that's WHY they don't care, it's like if they did a harry potter set, they don't want it overshadowing strixhaven.
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>>97071314
I could design better MH Secret Lairs.
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>>97071323
Mono-Green stompy pagan hasn't been viable since 1993 BC, anon. You need to let go. Broken Green Genesis ramp like >>97071316 has power crept it into irrelevance.
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>>97071327
All I know about monster hunter is there's monsters that you hunt and cats make delicious looking food and I could do a better job
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>>97071326
Incredibly disrespectful if true
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>>97071327
K have never seen or player monster hunter in my life, but would a whetstone, anvil, or maybe even a feather/scale trinket not be a better image to use
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>>97071327
this still annoys me. WHY THE FUCK IS VALSTRAX SOL RING. WHY IS SOL RING VALSTRAX? they have nothing to do with each other.

The obvious answer would have been a Talisman. Belts and cuffs are ring shaped artifacts. Maybe Latent Power Charm?
Even if they really wanted it to be a monster for some weird reason, Kulve Taroth is right there as a literal walking money pile, which while a stretch because it's still not a ring, would at least make sense in a roundabout way.

>>97071367
It's arguably not pagan, Zoroastrianism is monotheistic, and probably where the Hebrews even got the idea given they weren't monotheistic pre-persian occupation, and yahweh after persian occupation suddenly has a lot of traits shared with Ahura Mazda and their mythology goes from typical Ugaritic paganism to suddenly having eschatological aspects.
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>>97071316
I see you play a T1 Forest and get this ready.
The Fall - 2R
Enchantment - Saga
I - Target creature becomes tempted. (It gains haste and must attack during its controller's next combat step if possible. Sacrifice it at the beginning of its controller's next end step.) Create a treasure token.
II - The Fall does 1 damage to each creature. You may pay {R}{R}{R}. If you do, The Fall does an additional 2 damage to those creatures.
III - Destroy target land. Its controller creates a Wastes land token. You gain the damned role for the rest of the game.
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>>97071327
Honestly, it could have worked if it was doing it's laser attack in MH Sunbreak since it actually makes a circle
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>>97071433
>Sacrifice it at the beginning of its controller's next end step.
are you allowed to sacrifice things tou doicontrol? does need to be "It's controller sacrifices it"
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>>97071433
How is that an artifact?
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>>97071316
>Now here's a card I'd like to see banned. Way too much of a bomb for limited.
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>>97070644
I literally always do that
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>>97071327
I don't understand how the fuck they didn't make it something like the spit (cooking) from like a top down shot.
>Fire motif
>Generally circular/round
>Iconic to a good chunk of the series
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>>97071451
Good catch, anon.

>>97071455
It's an enchantment, anon, though it and other enchantments like The Great Food do synergize pretty well with Genesis artifacts like The Ark, which makes a few select creatures of different types indestructible.
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>>97071165
I really don't think life works like that, anon
As a small update, things have actually taken a turn and she is non stop "joking" about wanting to come over and stuff. I wonder if I should invite her to a coffee to dispell this stuff or what
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>>97071496
Imagine if they made Meowscular Chef as a Cat Collector reprint.
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>>97071496
>campfire, ring of stones with a big chunk of meat on a spit
would have been perfect
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Realit Fractured.
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>>97071587
flavor text
"So Tasty!"
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>>97071573
Flavor wise the text works great, only issue is the type line being human citizen.
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>>97071625
finally, a greenless set. we are going back home
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>>97071655
i mean, there are no cat chefs in mtg unfortunately. a chef that makes foods and has cat assistants is still pretty close.
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>Finally kill Ba Sing Se
>Sandman reanimates it and itself
>Alongside a gang of Bloodghasts
>Kill the animated land
>The land comes back and drags every Bloodghast with it

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>97071499
I feel like the ark should be a planeswalker with deathtouch.
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>>97071752
Combine it with fang and a goof sac outlet pluss earthbend and you can do an infinite burn
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>>97071752
this is why we need land exiling spells NOW NOW NOW!
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JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE
BLOODGHAST WAS INTENDED TO BE PRINTED IN THE SAME STANDARD AS EARTHBEND
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>>97071316
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This would be the burn spell. Vampiric rites as sac outlet.
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>>97071804
Retard
Glad I saved pic from last thread.
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>>97071752
>bro complaining about a table 500 combo
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I am honestly shocked that WotC managed to summon their collective single brain cell for once in their entire history and make Ba Sing Se sorcery speed only.
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>>97071804
My bad, >>97071844 was ment for >>97071752.
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>>97071844
*puts an arrest on your ching chong land*
what now baby?
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>>97071844
It really is bizarre that they made earthbending the most powerful out of the bends. You'd think it would be airbending since the main character does it rather than a sub-main one.
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>>97071424
>ring shaped
>"heaven's wheel"
>bright and shiny golden like the sun
>emanates glowing purple beams
>nitro-charges things

I found your Sol Ring WotC.
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>>97071890
>You'd think it would be airbending
It is, though.
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Which one of you was the retard who said this thing was busted?
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>>97071963
IT IS I, THE MASTERMIND BEHIND WEBSTRIKE ELITE.
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>>97071958
I know that, but I mean in general. Yes, you can etb for free; but that's only one card that really allows it.
Earthbending, however, has no downsides, added protection from creatures(due to blocking) and destruction, counter shenanigans, and there's probably something else I'm missing. All without an older card facilitating the playstyle
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NO CAPTIVE FLAME REPRINT AND I AM MAD
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Urza has a cocaine addict air about him.
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This game is so COOKED is unreal.
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>>97072015
>has no downsides
The downside is that you're down a land while you're using it as a creature, unless it's strictly for blocking and you're doing stuff at instant speed.
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I like how Standard is a format that demands turn 1 answers every game then has zero (0) playable turn 1 answers.
Great design honestly.
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>>97072219
just go first lol
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>>97072219
nosewater is nostalgic for saga block
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:^)
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I scoop, gg.
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>>97071963
it fucking is
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>>97071752
>graveyard recursion
>when everyone is running gy hate out the ass
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>>97072214
Okay, one downside out of multiple upsides
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>>97071812
Kino. Saved.
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>>97071963
Skill Issue
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>>97072320
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>>97072338
>beating up a literal starter deck
wow anon very cool
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When a new set comes out, how do you go about making a new deck? Do you try to make it with just the set's cards and fill the rest of it in later; or do you just use "old" cards and the new cards as supplementary for it?
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best one mana responses in standard of each color?
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>>97072371
concede button
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>>97072320
It would be so fucking funny if it was real
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>>97072320
>This Commander theme is all about my trans journey
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>>97072371
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>>97072320
We are reaching levels of trash that shouldn’t be humanly possible.
K-POP shit closer than ever
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>>97072377
That's zero mana, idiot.
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>>97072452
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>>97072219
Standard has genuinely become a "just hope you draw the right cards turn 1" format, which is light years away from what it was supposed to be.
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>>97072592

>>97072592

>>97072592
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>>97072260
thats some sweet art
we are not going to get anything that looks remotely close to this, or the fairy, in nuLorwyn
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>>97072219
If you aren't playing Seam Rip at this point you aren't playing the game. It's the only half way decent removal spell in the format.



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