Previous: >>97059938>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQHave you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?
>TQNope.Most opinions here are pretty shit as is
>if enough people complain we will in fact listen and change things How will antiUBfags recover now knowing they're a powerless minority?
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Yes. Titania's Song
UW reprints of everything when
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Ya probably. Tombstone Stairwell though I don't have it in anything
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Yeah, coomette
>>97067282>TQYes. This guy. Wanted to try building a mono blue deck since I had been trying mono colored stuff and someone here suggested him and I gave it a try. Orvar is pretty fun and I'm glad I took that recommendation.
People on moxfield are already sloppifying their Who decks with TMNT cards..
>>97067506>keeping abreast of what retards are doing with shiny new retard cards.Who gives a toot?Any of you neighbors got this silly guy in any of your lists? I don't have a UBx identity deck I can find a place for him but I am wondering how you guys use it.
>TQNo, but I've posted this in the past which was someone's missing link for a Pride of Hull Clade deck, so presumably they bought it.
>>97067537>>97067558>playing cards without a real card-backSorry we don't play with proxies at this pod.
>>97067573sorry, I don't care and will be using them anyway. Cry.
>>97067573Double-faced cards are real, and they can hurt you. My friend built a monument to devilry, a commander deck with all MDFCs. It's a pretty funny charbelcher deck if I'm being honest, but it is truly evil.
>>97067589>>97067590We rule 0'd it. Please leave.
>>97067601No.
>>97067601You can get up if you want, I'm not going anywhere. L + ratio + I know the store owner and he's not going to side with you on this + you're being unreasonable
>(insert commander) is trash because it can just be removed/countered What kind of mindset is this? That could be said for any card you could play. You can't live in fear around hypothetical removal
>>97067627Not only does everything die to removal both you and your opponents always JUST HAVE IT
>”group hug player, im not trying to win!>hehe I give you cards, plays stax. Trisk, mechanized production on treasure>begs and whinehards despite winning on his upkeep with me h production >other opponent has avacyn, huge board>last opponent is some janky precon>make his creatures unblockable, bulk up crackling spellslinger + radiate>narset his dovins veto>kill myself and the other 2>group hug player is pissy and ranting that I king make
>>97067786He wasn't wrong
>>97067813>grouphug player whines about kingmaking>i lose no matter what on his upkeep A pyrrhic victory is still a victory
kill the rhystic playerkill the group hug player
>>97067848>tfw your regular pod is shiters with money, so it doesn't matter how much you let them draw with rhystic they're not going to winI have to force myself to remember to pay just for practice for good players.
>>97067813Kingmaking is part of free-for-all formats, if you don't like it then play another format.
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Of course! Hundreds of dollars worth at this point.
>>97067627Commanders are only trash if your entire deck relies on them being out and they cost 5+ mana with no inherent protection.
>>97068030so basically: Budget decks suck
>>97068030>>97068036blocks you're path
>>97068030...Isn't that every deck?
>>97068040no, most cedh decks could exchange their commander(s) for any other that generated some moderate value in their goodstuff's color identity
I'm interested in building a Bx reanimator deck in edh, but I'm torn. Should I go>BRFocusing on discarding into grave, led by Cruelclaw or Olivia, Mobilizedor>UB Focusing on self-mill, led by The Ancient One, Phenax, or maybe Ludevic, Necrogenius
>>97068052>cedhEw gay
>player keeps trying to play grouphug>another player has a deck he really likes, that also abuses the crap out of grouphug player>grouphug player practically demands other player never play that deck because "it's not fair to the other players">refuses to not play a grouphug deckfuck that guy really
>>97068075God this thread seethes as hard about grouphug as it does about UB
>my deck... it's sort of a hybrid group hug you might say>the "hybrid" part is it plays smothering tithe
>>97068081They are just salty all the resources they were given didn't make their own deck any better. Don't matter how much you draw, or how many treasures you are given, if you deck fucking sucks it won't matter.
>>97067313was the outcry that strong? people were no more disappointed with these than any past sl that i saw. hell, much less disappointed than the rakin bass secret lair.
>>97068093I am pretty sure if I showed up with MLD chaos Stax it'd trigger this thread less than group hug lmao
>>97068081I play group hug like show and tell, tempt with mayhem, weftwalking, wild invocation, etc and copy spells/triggers/creatures to win. The ‘meme’ grouphug player is a faggot tryhard that hides behind a veneer of sometimes giving card draw, uses that as a political copout and whines when targeted for anything, and then will use an alternate wincon and use board wipes or alt wincons. They aren’t real grouphug decks that legit want to see shit popoff and chill. I JUST had a game where a grouphug player was kvetching hard about kingmaking
>>97068107group hug players make the entire game about them>who wants some cards uwu :3>oh no you're being a meanie weanie everyone attack him or you won't get any cards from me teehe :3
>>97068118just get a better deck bro
>>97068118I have a Breena grouphug deck I use to clear the air if one of my other decks pops off and annihilates the table before t6 or if there's 5-6 players and I want a fast game. The deck's only wincon is Divine Intervention. I give everyone massive attack buffs with shit like Duelist's Heritage and Crescendo of war on top of shit like Howling Mine to give everyone 2+ extra cards a turn. And faggots still can't close a game out fast and will sit there twiddling their thumbs even though they have a full mitt of cards, haven't missed a land drop, and have a board of 5 fliers getting +7 to attack.People just hate group hug because it exposes how dogshit they are at the game and how much their decks fucking suck.
I don't understand group hug, when I played Bumbleflower I just sandbagged and built my pillowfort while holding interaction until I could swing for win or make some sort of big swingy play. Giving cards to players was just a downside I had to deal with. Usually giving to the down player to keep them relevant enough people wouldn't start thinking about my boardstate.
>>97068161thats what group hug is supposed to do
>>97068161>I'm playing bumbleflower precon, just a few modifications :3>I cast Nadu :3
>>97068178i only make one modification to the precon and its cutting sol ring to throw the MVP of the deck in.
>>97068185he cute
>>97068157Divine Intervention is not a wincon.
Worth putting in a voltron deck?
>>97068190Ends the game how I wanted it to end. That's a wincon.
>>97068205Nooooo you didn't win the right way
>>97068205A draw isn't a win.You wear special glasses to make the sky look red.Its still blue, regardless of what you made.
>>97068205then jon irenicus is a wincon
>>97068215You lost thoughbeit
>>97068220No. I drew. Same as you.
>>97068230cope
>>97068220Okay what the fuck is "thoughbeit"
>>97068260tranner way of combining although and albeit
>>97068271>tranneris that like a trans 4channer?
>>97068260thoughbeit is not that uncommon, cmon now. its like being baffled by 'rard'
>>97068215Game ended and it ended the way I wanted it to. It didn't end the way you wanted it to. My deck did it's thing, yours did not. Cope and seethe all you want but that's what winning is in the real world, no matter what your arbitrary definitions define it as.
>>97068290So what does it mean then>RardWtf are you talking about
>>97068303What the heck does "wtf" mean?
>>97068312stfu nerd
>>97068303you already had it explained here: >>97068271
>>97068316"stfu"?
>>97068322omfg
>>97068317>Although+albeitAnd yet it's missing the only thing they have in common, the "al"Who invented this retarded zoomer speak
>>97068326Quiet 40 year old.
>>97068326its a portmanteau and they've existed long before you were ever skeeted out.
>>97068293You didn't win. You shat your pants and then raised your hands as if it was a victory.A draw is not a win. You're the only one coping. This is troon levels of reality denial. Looking inward before its too late.
>>97068331That's a horrible Portmanteau
>>97068344nah its pretty good if it managed to filter you.
>>97068333>I'm not owned! I'm not owned! I say as I shrink into a corncob.
>>97068347Wow good one thoughbeit
I concede on turn 2. The game ended the way I wanted it to. That's a win.
I heard this deck is shit. Should I buy it
I enjoy being the threat more than I enjoy winning the game.
>>97068363No
>>97068364What is this autism thoughbeit
>>97068354>>97068371man you are seething.
>>97068362Do you play duel commander or some shit?
You counter my commander? I concede. Simple as.
>>97068381Silence rard
>>97068392keep being upset, Skippy.
If I forced the game to end for everyone else because of my game actions I won. I consider any kind of infinite trigger loop a win. Endless Polyraptors? Sporemound with Land Saprolings? All wins
>>97068364Oops forgot to update for newest friend
>>97068333>You shat your pants and then raised your hands as if it was a victory.Actually I played a card that says the game ends if I fulfill a certain condition, which I did, which made the game end. You did not want the game to end and did not fulfill your objectives. I did and fulfilled mine. You're the only one dilating reality around here troonstein.
>>97068399Whatever refag
I will play jon irenicus with only landhome creatures from now on and win every game
>>97068390>Removed some guys Sheoldred.>Board wipe happens>Guy who played the Sheoldred lost a lot to the wipe and was the board leader>Play my commander >Guy counters it.>ScoopWaste of my time to be honest. I regret nothing.
>>97068260>>97068271Sharty lingoIt's like "believe it", you just add it to convey tone
>>97068362The game didn't end though you just gave up and walked away lmao
>>97068406>My "win" explicitly says I actually drew>I won though.Ywnbw
>>97068412What's landhome
Sometimes when I play edh, my opponents do this thing that really pisses me off. First they will play lands and then they will tap those lands to cast spells. Really pisses me off when my opponents do this. Does anyone else have this happen to them?
>>97068432island home, swamp home, etc.
>>97068433No, never. All my opponents just pass through all phases and then discard down to hand size.
>>97068428>I can't refute your argument but I feel so strongly about it I WILL reply to every (You) you give me thanks for you concession!
>>97068447You have no argument to refute.How you feel, doesn't change objective fact.You drew your game and lost this argument from first post.Again, ywnbw
>>97068454ywnbw?
>>97068454drawing isn't losing.It's a draw.Anon was more happy to fulfill the conditions of the draw than to win. stop being a petulant and pedantic retard and just move on.
I hate to say it bros...Aetherdrift is tempting me.
>>97068462>Stop being right Nah. Good try though retard.
>>97068466angrily declaring everyone else is wrong makes you seem even more laughably petulant.
>>97068465Aetherdrift is probably the best non-UB set of 2025
I think I got the worse pull from a collector booster ever. Not a single card worth more than even a dollar.
>>97068473>This dead horse is slightly less dead than this horse
>>97068475Many such cases. Collector boosters are priced for the chase card, which makes them poor purchases
>>97068421Am I still playing? The game is over. Therefore it ended. If someone argues with me, I stand on the table and take a big stinky doodoo so nobody else can keep playing.
>>97068473lmao
>>97068472>Everyone No, just (You).Deal with it
>>97067823It's not a victory. You lost just to give the win to a different player. That's king making.
>>97068198Run it in Skullbriar, keep the counters forever
Why not unban Leovold?Seems too slow in modern EDH
>>97068578and invalidate all their do thing draw card commanders?
>>97068447Your argument has been fully refuted, yet you continue to cry about how your personal redefinition of strictly defined game jargon is right. You conceded a long time ago.
>>97068580Do thing draw card is now on 2cmc commanders, which beats Leo
>people complain about LotR and their forced inclusion of basketball americans>*crickets over KotK*>"people" complain about weeb shit">we´re listening!! moving forward we will do better!!
anything interesting for this guy?edhReddit just shows aura spam and i wanted something maybe a bit different, maybe even an alternative win con somewhere in the deck?overall post interesting ideas from different colours/themes
If an effect lets me copy a spell I cast and the original spell is countered, do I still get a copy? The spell is still "cast" from my hand, right, and thus copy is created?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97068647looks like a fantastic part of the 99 for a Goreclaw deck, it'd make him cost 2 green mana and work well with garruk's uprising and what not. (or you can just voltron him with green stomp I suppose, buffing based on how many forests you control could be the play)
>>97068647Do you consider generic mono-green ramp interesting?
>>97068548I am bleedingmaking me the victor
>>97068663>or you can just voltron him with green stomp I suppose, buffing based on how many forests you control could be the playyeah, that’s what i was saying, edhrec already does this with every single deck, nothing outside the box with this guy.thanks for the suggestion, i guess...
Like how all theft players are trannys, grouphug players are all midwit redditors who think they're Julius Caesar reincarnate when it comes to politicking. Really though they're all mediocre to bad players who whine and cry when things aren't going their way hoping the other players will pity them or fall for the "teehee I'm just trying to help everyone play" shtick they all fucking do. They're just annoying to play with and constantly king make or misrepresent their decks power level, too beta to be archenemy or be "mean" when they play. Target and bully grouphug players until they grow some balls or leave the pod.
>>97068657The stack works backward, right? So yes, and the copy itself can be countered.
>>97068682neat, then I thought about stuff correctly, thanks for confirming. receive cat.
>>97068681correct
>>97068681
When are they adding edh to MTGA
>>97068681Nice, I just watched the newest Trinket Mage video too.
>>97068479>Plays MTG>Doesn't like gamblingGarfield would have hated you
>>97068749We stand with Trinket Mage in this general. We're all boycotting Lorwyn to show WotC we can be just as serious about hybrid mana as Monster Hunter fans are about dragon penis.
I've been playing for 7 months and I'm still a godawful deck builder. I have a good grasp of the gameplay and I can do pretty well if given a sufficiently good precon and matched against decks of a similar level. But it doesn't translate well to making my own decks for the jank off-meta commanders that are interesting to me personally but aren't popular enough to have "solved" netdecks online for me to copy. I have no actual creativity or original thoughts in my head despite the hours and hours a week I spend consuming Magic content online and discussing it. It's unbelievable. I should quit.
i stand with no griefting youtuber who entered the space after 2015
>>97068657It depends on the effect. Things like storm will still put copies on the stack, but a spell like Fork will fizzle if its target is countered before Fork resolves (because the target is no longer valid).
>>97068749>retarded reddit eceleb EVER shitting on the reddit archetypelmao
>watch a Tolarian video because whatever who cares>opens avatar boosters>pulls a 2k value card>"I'll donate the profit to charity">"Trans Lifeline"Seriously what is with these people and trannies? Trannies don't need fucking charity
>>97068795All you did was change his argument from SuccubusSnail to Reddit.
>>97068775>we can be just as serious about hybrid mana as Monster Hunter fans are about dragon penisEven as bait I feel obliged to point out there's no way MtG players could be that disciplined given it took MonHun fans 1 week to accomplish what MtG players couldn't in 7 years.
>>97068473You speak truth
>>97068794thanks, that makes sense. (have cat.) I was thinking creatures or enchantments that let you copy spells you cast. (abilities, I guess)onto more copying (never really made a deck this spellslingy, lots of new rules for me) - if someone else casts a spell with for instance "deal dmg equal to your amount of creatures" and they have 5 creatures and I have 2, and I copy the spell, would I deal 2 or 5 dmg?
https://moxfield.com/decks/v0aD8Y8dvkyjwZI4sl7dLAHow would (you) build Oketra
>>97068885It looks like you're leaning into returning your own cheaper creatures to cast again and again into her for those 4/4 zombies. Which sounds about right for this Oketra. How about Cloudstone Curio? Would probably also include Ornithopter and any of the zero cost creatures like it. Memnite, Phyrexian Walker, Shield Sphere. So with Cloudstone Curio you can shit out an infinite amount of zombies. Maybe Welcoming Vampire and Mentor Of The Meek for some additional draw along with these cheap creatures?
>>97068881nevermind, I think I understand - I mixed up copying and changing targets.If I copied the example I would deal 2 dmg since that's my own amount of creatures, but 5 dmg if I changed the target of the spell since that's still the original spell being cast.
>>970688812 damage. You're the owner of the copy, so "your creatures" are the creatures you own. The only exception would be something that explicitly checks the number of creatures you own when you cast it, which would copy the value the original caster locked in when casting it.
>TQlol yehappens all the time, most often if someone else pisscries about the art
>>97068054BR, but something proper with Chainer, Nightmare Adept
>>97068906I thought about zero cost creatures but I'm not sure. Cloudstone Curio is neat but not sure if it's needed either. I might need something for lifegain. Best case scenario with the deck is I have defiler of faith + oketra's monument out and I get infinite tokens with wine mane lion (but it costs me 2 life every time)
>>97069155I mean, Curio is infinite zombies with Oketra on field and any of the zero cost artifact creatures, and lets you recycle any of your enter the battlefield creatures even if you don't have the flash ones so I'd probably still suggest it. But if you've got a list that works then that's cool too. That Oketra and white blink stuff is decently open so you'll have options to dig through.
Can a creature have multiple instances of Firebending ? For instance if it already has Firebending 2 and you grant it Firebending 4, does it just increase from 2 to 4, or are they separate abilities that stack to 6?
>>97069189Firebending is a triggered ability so yes it can stack.
>>97067313>he thinks wotc listens to fansAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA>>97068106it wasn't. the wotc jews got 100% pressured by the capcom jews to not fuck this up, because capcom is currently extremely insecure about its franchises and need them to look good at any time.
>>97069196Action is coming
>>97069189It should work like multiple instates of prowess. Each triggers separately. So Firebending 4 and Firebending 2 together nets you two triggers giving you six red in total. Not one big trigger of six.
>>97068260/int/ meme
>>97069199>because capcom is currently extremely insecure about its franchises and need them to look good at any time.After how much shit Wilds caused I am not surprised.
>>97068843I still dont get it. most monster hunter fans dont care about mtg, dont care about the lazy reskin choices or care enough to really go after wotc about it.im utterly baffled.
>new guy joins the LGS discord server>same name as someone I went to school with that went on to get convicted of having sex with a 14 year old boy and having CP on this phonetomorrow I find out if it's the same guy at FNM
>>97069199>the wotc jews got 100% pressured by the capcom jews to not fuck this up, because capcom is currently extremely insecure about its franchises and need them to look good at any time.Interesting! You do have proof of this of course.
>>97069261Monster Hunter fans are super autistic and are willing to do the one thing most consumers won't: Refuse to buy a product that sucks. They're unironically the demographic that's the least-prone to jumping up and clapping just because the MonHun IP is on it, which is ironic given that Capcom licenses it every time any Capcom game underperforms.Hell, the entire reason this collab happened in the first place was because Capcom released a shit Monster Hunter game and the players refused to buy it, so Capcom is trying to recoup their losses.
How does peregrin took stack with academy manufactor
>>970693102 food, a treasure and a clue whenever one of those is made.
>>97069310Replacement effects apply exactly once. Its controller decides the order. So in addition to whatever token is being made, you will make the standard Academy Manufactor triple special, unless what is being made is already comprised of clues, foods, and/or treasure, in which case you can decide that Pippin goes above Manufactor and just add 1 to the total of Manufactor's diversification.
>>97069302i have no care for monhun, but didnt wilds sell just as well as any other mh title?
>>970693151. that would require stacking your triggers stupidly2. nobody said a food is what's being madeIt's essentially always worse to put Manufactor's replacement above Pippin's replacement unless your board state is negatively affected by having more artifact tokens.
>>970693361-2 investor calls after it's declared as underperforming in growth and retention
>>97069339yeah, mh has it's fanbase. world was the outlier, not the norm.
>>97069336Initially, but then sales cratered once people realized the performance issues. As I understand, latest charts showed it selling worse than previous entries currently do.
>>97069337NTA, but what you're saying is that Took only triggers once per token creation cascade, but manufactor triggers every time a food is made in that process?I'm new, so can you elaborate on why exactly that is?
>>97069273The default state for corporations is to lie publicly about their inner workings. If you want to claim that a corporation like WotC is telling the truth, the burden of proof lies with them/you. Some important points:>WotC is 100% content with releasing dogshit product and does not care about the customer (see limited printing).>WotC has close relationships with some of the corpos from their UB crossovers, proven by how it took them 6 months to ban Vivi from Standard.>Capcom is under a lot of pressure since Wilds, which sold well at release, but has no sales since then. They are also well-known to be ultra-protective of their franchises and unironically believe stuff like video game modding destroy their games' public image, to a point where they implement costly security measures to prevent easy modding in Wilds.
>>97069408Both only trigger once per event, but Academy Manufactor applies to each token in the event when happens. So if you make 1 token, then apply Pippin, you make a second, and then the Manufactor replaces both of them with two of each. If you had 2 Manufactors, you'd get 18 (6 of each) out the other side, under optimal ordering.The thing to note is that Took says *if one or more", so it applies to the entire event as a group no matter how many tokens are made when it applies, whereas the Manufactor just says "a Clue, Food, or Treasure", so it looks at each token individually in the event.
>>97066872>Capcom has no legal recourse so this is retardedOh, have you seen their contract with WotC? Give us your insight, corporatelawyeranon!
>>97069408as the other anons said, you can apply each replacement effect ("instead" wording on the card) once to each event, so putting them in the right order is important:create a food/treasure/clue token>trigger peregrin for +1 food>trigger manufactor to replace both tokens to net you 2x3 tokenscreate a non-food/treasure/clue token>trigger peregrin for +1 food>trigger manufactor to replace peregrin's food token to net you 1x3 tokensjust remember that replacement effects only apply once per event, meaning that they cannot go infinite off each other.
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?This place sold me on Feldon, and for that, I am forever thankful. Probably my second favorite Commander now, all told.
>>97068647Make it a theme deck around trolling. Use obscure shit like Avoid Fate or Seedtime, maybe throw a Naked Singularity in there.
>>97068720That ship sailed eons ago. There's no way they're going to program the tens of thousands of cards needed to make it legitimate Commander, not when they're too busy making edited cards and custom cards.
>>97069603I've been working on a "troll deck" incorporating every weird one-off obscure rule and trackable mechanic I can think off just for the sake of forcing weird board states. So far it's got every face down effect, one of each kind of split card, dungeons, rooms, initiative, poison, energy, suspend, foretold, mutate, splice, rebound. I keep debating whether to even try for companion.
>>97069613They already made Brawl on there anyway as a concession to Commander players right? That was their mini version of the format that was realistically programmable. I think it can only be played 1v1 though because the client doesn't support 4-player games.
>>97069622Finish the deck, then see if you can slot in a Companion easily. Who is the Commander?
>>97069626I believe that just takes what was already available and mashes it into one format. To get true Commander would involve programming in a vast swath of cards that would presumably be only usable in the Commander format, and I can't see WOTC putting in that time and effort. Divorce yourself from the idea that Arena will ever truly replace MTGO, because unfortunately, that was never its true purpose.
>>97069453>>97069472Awesome, thanks for the clear explanations. It'll be important to get the most out of chatterfang's effect. One time running through some test games i came across this and started wondering how to resolve it all, for a bit wondered if took and the general would go infinite before realizing something was wrong. I want to avoid any infinite combos in my deck.
>>97069633Child of Alara currently just as a big reset button to keep the fun going on longer. Also because I'm trying with Jegantha as a companion if I can swing it.
>>97069659I'm down with that. Godspeed, you crazy fuck. And if you haven't already added it in, the daybound/nightbound mechanic. What a fucking mistake that was.
>oh boy, all cards for the new deck are chosen, time to cut down to 100>gotta cut 42 cards>>97069622Does "split card" imply you already have Day/Night ? Otherwise, it's obviously a requirement. >>97069659>child of alarakek nice
>>97069422What a dumbfuck schizo post lmao
>>97069579Who is the first
>>97069685
>>97069667Not only should he have day/night, he should also have some of the old werewolves without day/night if he doesn't already
Okay, so I drew 15. Now what?
>>97069714at endstep, discard to handsizecast reanimate
>>97069677the only dumb fucks are the retards who unironically believe what jewish corporations say to the public
>>97069686Based
>>97069714Play a different Commander.
>>97069686can't cross the xenagos
>>97069756No
>>97069781If you don't have a plan after drawing 15 cards, don't draw 15 cards. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
>>97069336well duuh, people need to buy and play a game to realise it sucks
>>97069714>fill your graveyard with reanimate targets / flashback / unearth etc>cast death cloud and be the last one with cards in his hand>have a permanent out that triggers from you drawing cardsand most importantly: >just fill up and improve your hand based on the current board state>uploading files from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abusewhat the fuck is going on with austria. I remember phoneposting being banned for several years once
>Ten each attackers like ornithopter to start the chain>at least 10 2 mana ramp spells to play commander early>more ramp spells to trigger landfall>Some other landfall triggers>Sources of trample and vigilance because those are good with big manlands>Card draw/removal/protection/recursionAm I overthinking it? I cant seem to fit all of it in 99 cards.
>>97069714>is given all the resources in the world>still cant figure out how to actually play magic
>>97069912>10 each attackers like ornithopter to start the chain>10 2 mana ramp spells to play commander early>7 more ramp spells to trigger landfall>10 other landfall triggers>3 Sources of trample and vigilance because those are good with big manlands>20 Card draw/removal/protection/recursionthat was easy
Post cards that looked like they were pretty good but actually sucked once you played them
>>97069912>each attackers like ornithopter???
>>97069937that's a simic baleful strix, but better
>>97069942The snow perm clause is awkward even if you play a lot of basics
>>97069937This isn't a card designed explicitly for Commander. It works better in 60-card formats.
>>97069955Same with the vast majority of mtg cardsThanks for contributing nothing to this conversation. Post cards that looked like they were pretty good but actually sucked once you played them
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Closest is that I bought a Foil Scrapheap because an anon was convinced it was going to double in price and I said if it didn't I would drill holes in his shoes.It has actually doubled in price to get a foil GD one on cardmarket.
>>97069975>let me bitch about a card that wasn't as good as I thought, then be pissy when I'm not given the exact kind of response I wantHave a Happy Thanksgiving
>>97069912Proliferate is just as good as ramp, even better because you can add both more experience counters and more 1-1 counters!
>>97069997Im not bitching about a card dipshitI literally just want cards that looked like they were pretty good but actually sucked once you played themPost some!
>>97069912I think red+green is funnier than pure green, though I was gonna make a mono-green Toph deck at first. You'll want vigilance or untaps for sure, at the end of the day your earthbent land is just a X / X creature, so if you only swing with it you're a tasty target once it's tapped.
>>97069912Whatever you do, play this.
>>97069984What a peculiar card
>>97067282>Have you ever bought a card because you saw someone post of picture of it on /edhg/?Crashing drawbridge
>>97069947you are awkward
>>97069937Only every really does anything when you're already in a winning position. Does nothing for you if you're behind, rarely survives a whole turn cycle around the table, and rarely turns a situation where you wouldn't otherwise be winning into one where you are.
>>97069975>Post cards that looked like they were pretty good but actually sucked once you played themAny card with 4 color pips outside mono color.
>>97067282I sometimes build commanders from anon who are passionate about them. It's hit and miss. odric anon's deck was disappointing for a low IQ retard like me who can't into mono white, adryn anon on the other hand gave me something that was very simply and very satisfying to play.
>>97070326>Only every really does anything when you're already in a winning position.I think your other points are fair and a reason to discount the card, but I feel like people repeat this too often without really mathing out what is or is not a necessary amount of push over the top to actually finish a game. 10 1/1s is a really good position to be in go wide, but they alone are only going to win the game in 12 turns.
>>97070351At the same time, anthems are less mana , less threatening to other players, and similarly speed up the clock; and overrun effects are better at converting a wide boardstate into a win. Nearly any time I drew into CC, I wished I had either drawn into an anthem or an overrun.
>>97070326That's a build-around card. Probably the one I wish most had an effect that was stapled to a commander.It's part of a hundred 2-card combos that go from just the enchantment sitting there to over a hundred points of damage slamming into your opponents, and all because of the generous timing rules.
>>97068040Only bad ones. Well built edh decks can function without their general and have an independent game plan. Ideally the general helps it, but your deck also shouldn't rely upon it unless you have ways to protect it.
>>97068647>edhreddit>from a guy asking us to come up with some special sauce from himI love how retarded the people in this thread are. What an abhorrent post. The worst is the last sentence, acting like this post had any purpose other than getting people to be creative and "soulful/based" (only reason to play this shit) for you.
>>97070326The only reason I don't play it, is because it's a pain in the ass to track. It also draws a lot of aggro on you, but at least it's warranted with how well it can enable wins. Cause I'm with >>97070351 here. It's one of the best cards for go wide strategies to get their win. Avenger of Zendikar alone for example still needs a bunch of landfall triggers to be threatening. But with CC, it's instantly lethal basically. Same Adeline can also explode way easier with it.
>>97069273>playerbase is angry about everything forever>nothing changes>company does a bad release associated with another company>instantly changedWhat proof do you require anon?
>>97069912Genuinely no idea why anyone would play this.beyond. being a pedophile. Boring and bad design.
people throw out swords so fucking willynilly it's crazy. it's always some inconsequential bullshit like 5 damage, and they always do it before waiting to see if the 5/5 swings somewhere else. swords is so wasted on morons. (i get swordsed for no reason a lot)
>>97070379This is such a faggy view on the game im glad my play group evolved beyond this.>build around commanders cause its fun and what the format is named after>build around concepts that dont need commander cause we were all young WAACfags>build around commander again becauss its fun and we grew up and dropped the WAACfaggotryGrowing up is so fun.
>>97070443Think they are trying to get the triggers instead of the damage there anon.
>>97070453>build around commanders cause its fun and what the format is named afteryou can have synergies with your commander and also not rely on them >WAACfagswhat does WAAC mean?unrelated but my captcha said mtg porn
>>97070466Swords to plowshare i believe.
>>97070470My mistake
>>97068030Guess you have never seen competent big mana decks in action. I am forbidden from playing Etali, Xenagos and Rakdos, Lord of Riots at my friend's table (farily casual but heavily optimized budget decks).
>>97070443>removal on my early 2/2 that doesn't even ramp>2 turns later eldr*zi player pops out a 7/7 fortunately the eldrazi player attacked me, so the swords guy never had to learn any kind of lesson from the event :)
>>97070529I mean of course anon, you have the most life!
>>97070522>forbiding decks instead of just teching against themwhy are edh players so averse to adapting?
>>97070715and no longer had a 2/2 blocker, thats tbe real deciding factor
>>97069714you take 30 t:shelly
>>97070395>this much triggeredis this you?
>>97070730>Group wants to play on the level of, say, bracket 2>One member builds decks that grow out of control fast, akin to bracket 4>Anon is baffled that the group doesn't like itThe other anon didn't even mention the guy being upset about it. Sometimes you end up overshooting your goal a little bit.
The problem with budget decks is that they basically have to go all in on relying on the commander. You can't build a generic good stuff pile that doesn't need its commander if you aren't whaling for the good stuff.Thankfully a lot of protection in colors other than red is pretty cheap too. It just means that good budget decks end up more as high risk high reward tempo decks.
>>97068363It is infact quite shit. See if you can get the convoke one for cheap
Built an Yshtola mana rocks deck. Didn't realize how quickly you run out of cards in it. I've got 35 mana rocks, 15 pieces of interaction, 10 synergy pieces, 40 lands. Cutting some mana rocks seems like the obvious play here but it's a mana rocks deck. The whole point is to be playing 2 of those each turn so I need a pretty high density. The land count is only as high as it is because I didn't realize how slow Yshtola is as a draw engine at first. I could go down to 38 comfortably.Synergy pieces are mostly flash enablers. I've got like 3 board wipes which might be a little much. This is just a silly deck and I don't want to make people groan by destroying everything every other turn. Could cut two of those. Interaction is mostly generic stroke of midnight spells, as well as the impetus cycle since the impetus auras are fun semi-removal options that also let me trigger the 4 damage on other players' turns with their own creatures. Hm hm.
>>97070829How is a deck growing in strength make it a bracket 4? The only difference between a bracket 2 and a bracket 4 is the number of game changers you can run.
>>97070939On a side note it's awesome how cheap this deck is. No one wants to run the crappy 3cmc mana rocks so the majority of the deck is cards you can get for 25 cents or less. One of my cheapest decks yet.
>>97068780Just keep at it bro, Rome wasn't built in a day
>>97067282>To the TQI bought Primeval Titan on a whim in case it ever gets unbanned. Made a bracket 2 Wandering Minstrel landfall and only thing I'm missing is big green beatsticks
>>97068780It took me over a year to get confident enough to start building my own decks, and my best decks are still the ones I netdecked.Consider keeping a checklist or an order of priorities so that you know what your deck is doing. I'm a big fan of >My Deck Tickled A Sliver MDTAS: Mana, Draw, Threats, Answers, Synergy. That's the general importance of each type of card in your deck. Sort each card into one of those categories and you'll quickly be able to tell if it has too much or too little off a specific one. Hint: The majority of bad/novice deckbuilders just fall into the trap of having WAY too many synergy pieces and not nearly enough draw pieces.
>>97068780How do you browse cards? If you have a LGS and they have binders is maybe worth just going and browsing, seeing if anything catches your eye. Is how I made a v fun samurai boros deck browsing Kamigawa binders and using Cloud, Planet's Champion as commander from a gift
>>97069912>start the chainthis is the second time i read this here recently, is this some Yugioh lingo?
>>97068780whenever I have a block I usually think along the lines>is there some new mechanic I want to counter someone abusing?>what do I hate the most currently to stop from happeningnot even meta building silverbullet piles like, "oh I lost to cascade, let me run vexing bauble" but rather:FUCK EARTHBENDING I'M MAKING A BLINK/BOUNCE DECK
>>97071062I just realized she has no pants onhot
>>97070939With that mana rocks you can easily cut 2-3 lands.
>>97071096True
He's perfect in decks that want to focus on Earthbending you should all get him right now
>>97071108Yeah but ideally I want to be playing a land and 1-2 rocks each turn. Something like a vandalblast or a bane of progress ends my career on the spot so I want to make sure I'm not missing early land drops.
>>97071186Will do
This guy is already 25 bucks, do you think hybrid change will push him higher? Recursion for Icetill or Scute might be appealing to a lot of landfall decks on top of being a crucible.
>>97071270Every game I played against Zask boiled down to tutoring this and machinegunning every other creature on the board, lame and gay.
>FNM groups been rotating >A lot of newer players>Powering down/replacing some decks so i can play something besides my $40-50 ultra budget decks on fridays>Go back to the lists i put together on archidekt when i was in this same situation a few years ago"$104 - bracket 4 - contains 2 card infinite combo MESMERIC ORB + BASALT MONOLITH""$77 - bracket 4 - contains 2 card infinite combo DOVESCAPE + GUILE""$90 - bracket 4 - contains 2 card infinite combo MESMERIC ORB + BASALT MONOLITH contains gamechanger(s) OPPOSITION AGENT"Im probably just taking BASALT MONOLITH out of my self mill and graveyard based decks to make it work
>>97071295yup i experienced the same thing, it was fucking awesome. i like playing zask as a control/staxxy lands deck rather than board vomit. shifting woodland really turbocharged Verdant Succession lines.
>>97071270I don't think being able to play him in now mono green decks is going to make him more desirable.
>>97071304at a certain point you just become the basalt monolith guy and i kind of respect it and will just play more collector ouphes and krosan grips.
>>97071331Lot of simic landfall decks
>>97071304>$40-50>ultra budgetUltra budget is like $15-20.That's just a regular budget deck.
>>97071342Those decks weren't hurting for ways to play out of the graveyard as is, they really aren't looking for an insect lord. Sure, scute swarm is slightly better, but I don't think its going to push up his price more than a quarter to a dollar at most.
>>97071208You're in esper, play some artifact protection you silly billy
>>97071385I only play green. I don't know what artifact protection Esper has.
>>97071392Blue and White both have excellent artifact protection, pic related
>>97071270Hes $25 because hes a jumpstart legend for a niche tribe, not because hes particularly good. Theres at least half a dozen mono green cards with his land effect already that you can play
>>97071406>pic related>excellent artifact protectionlmao
>>97071408>Theres at least half a dozen mono green cards with his land effect already that you can playpost them then?oh right, there’s none. Hence the $25 asking price, and its worth it tbqhwyf
>>97071270Why does everyone keep talking about hybrid change? It's not changing
I think I found my commander waifu. How to maximize the amount of negativity at the table? Proliferate and infect seem waifu friendly, does anybody run some similaraly themed decks, where all the counters aren't + but - (maybe with oil or poison too)?
>>97071504>post them then?https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28oracle%3A%22You+may+play+lands%22+oracle%3A%22from+your+graveyard%22%29+%28game%3Apaper%297 in mono green.Plus artifacts.
In a moment of weakness I bought 50€ worth of Avatar waifus. How do I stop thinking with my dick?
>>97071675Is your dick and your heart happy?Not a waste, and don't beat yourself up about it.
>>97071675You don't, you build dick-thinking theme deck. Waifu tribal, like the legendary Liliana-cards-only deck.
>>97071683My dick approves. My heart is conflicted.
>>97069942>but betterNot an artifact
>>97071684maybe you are right. maybe i should just accept my inner coomer and go full chicks i would bang typal.
>>97071675You can't take it with you, so why hold on to it?Money should be spent on things that make you happy.
>>97071675you are already based for buying singles
>>97071062Not here. To "start a chain" in YGO would translate to adding something to the stack in MTG. Which doesn't seem to be the case or context for the post but rather they mean "combo". Not sure why they used "chain"
>>97071186Very fitting for the players who like slop for pigs.
He's perfect in decks that want to focus on Firebending you should all get him right now
>>970718321+1=2 levels of revolutionary assessment.have you ever head of Thoracle combo?im not falling for your filthy tricks, Mr Merchantman
>>97071832im starting to think that red's near monopoly on target changing effects is actually worse than blue's on counter magic.
>>97071889
Thoughts on this legacy style tempo deck I have been tinkering with.https://moxfield.com/decks/nyC5LKiS5Um0g2Z0tuGqhQ
>>97071889A whole.. 6 cards? Bolt bend, redirect lightning, untimely malfunction, hell to pay, deflecting swat. Syncopate?
Why is this community so full of trannies?
>>97068681I like how all bracket 2 and 3 players are angle shooters
>>97071951every blackrock hobby is
>>97071675I do not comprehend people like you.
>>97071951because you won't find a hobby for your political ideology.
>>97071936Looks tuned for 1v1, I've been toying with a similar idea but with more myriad/melee cards
>>97071941to be fair the chances of a red deck having one of those is near 100%
>>97071813what's wrong with Earthbending?
>>97071951We're all autistic here, Trannies are just unhinged autists. Also its encouraged.
>>97071941now THATS a chain, momma
>>97071951I personally blame one of the biggest names in the space being spice8rack and his white male guilt he wont shut up about every time he tries to give a lore overview. Sure do love hearing about how noble mongols are and how evil the east fucking india company is when i just wanted to hear about tarkir.Signals the letters crowd that mtg is for them if that faggot is one of the faces of the community.
>>97071813Magic is like a restaurant But they don't serve food I likeSo instead of going to another restaurant I complain every day about the restaurant and despite my opinions about itThe restaurant remains popular How can that be?-a pro player
>>97072004>go to other restaurant>same shitguess i just have to drop all my other plans in life to go run my own restaurant or something
>>97072012where's the UB in Flesh and Blood?
I finally ordered my FF bundles from the Amazon botsFuck em, all my nearby game stores are selling preorders for them for 150% markup or more, the faggots>yeah we're selling them for more so it discourages scalpers from buying them>"isn't there already a 1 per person rule to begin with?">yeahAssholes.
>>97072020idk i just assume every other game and community is filled with something to complain about because everyone everywhere is looking for shit to complain about and have melties over
>>97071982give me something else to interact with spells on the stack, then
>>97071813Slop as a descriptor. is the "slop" of criticism. Do better.
>>97072035Red pyro blast
>>97072021It's a fact that LGSs are actually worse kikes than WotC, yes.
https://moxfield.com/decks/8V3ZujKg-0y91SE7itn3CAAlright guys Ill prostate myself and ask for opinions here 3rd doc / Sarah list. Ive included only what I consider the core cards so far. Where would you take the list from here?I know its likely going to want> token creators> token doublers> wincons> interactionI know a lot of cards that could fit or work but Im stuck in analysis paralysis. Idea is to flood artifact tokens (maybe creatures too) and voltron or (?)
>>97072061>hey guys!!! check out my slop deck!>dr who>bennie bracks>Where would you take the list from here?trash
>>97072079>>bennie bracksDare I ask whats wrong with Benny Bracks?
>>97072079>Slop>No criticism with any substanceTrash.
>>97072098calling it slop should be enough, redditor.>>97072094>Dare I ask what’s wrong with Benny Bracks?skin colour for starters.
>97072119S L O PLOPOpinions.
>>97072012Or just stop going to burger joints (MTG) and start going to fish joints (Jogging, hunting, fishing etc)
>>97072159all my boomer coworkers talk about is how fishing has become nothing but gearslop.
>>97072179>powercreep in the fishing industry
what are some fun+uncommonly played commanders or deck themes? No group hug.
>>97072179>I NEED THE GEARNo you don't. Objectively. You can fish with a literal stick. People did it for millenia.One of the great tricks of the modern world is convincing people you need special gear to do things our ancestors did with sticks and rocks.
>>97072209Try EDHrec.
>>97072179Thats fucking sad if true, I've actually downsized my tackle recently. Still go out every weekend.
>>97072179I thought I was in the /out/ thread for two seconds; my friend I've been fishing regularly for 5 years with now got a state record and says gear is all bullshit anyway so for a few weeks he literally did stick and line with bottle cap successfully a few times
>>97072004Reminder that the slop rant was about made for commander cards, not UB.
>>97072259If our ancestors could feed their tribes and build communities without gear then I don't see why anyone else can't
>>97072209group slug, but more on punish effectsthis is good when you have decks of varying power at a table, if you tailor the punish effects to hit one deck harder than the others
>>97072226>Try EDHrec.
>>97072179fish from a century ago is no smarter than the fish of today
>>97072298Try using your brain then
>>97072298>I want to find rare archetypes>NO! I Will not go to the site that tracks the number of decks so I can see which is unpopularWell I'm not going to help you.
>>97072271I don't care because it was a nonsensical pointless rant that just boiled down to "wotc should make what I like and nothing else" which is a retarded opinion
>>97072271It applies well to UB, better even.
>>97072318>edhrec>rare archtypesevery deck presented looks the same, everyone just jams the top 40 most played cards of w/e colour + lands.
>>97072360I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is bait.
>>97072321>I like my game raped and ruinedkys
>>97072298Do you have a reason why its a bad resource beyond the fact that your echo chamber told you it was?
>>97072360gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>97071492for a deck thats 40% mana rocks of differing cmc? yeah its superb.
>>97071304>Under a hundred dollary doos>Bracket 4 (Optimized)Theres a bit of a breakdown when you consider how many 2 card infinite combos are less than $5, dovescape guile is one of the main ones I talk to people in my games about when the topic comes up. Theres no reason we should be treating infinite combos that dont actually win the game or cost over ten mana the same way we would treat something like painters stone or heliod ballistaBrackets are really more of a guideline for discussing power levels than a hard and fast metric but most edh players have too much trouble talking to each other for that
>>97072209Lose-turboYou remove all your own life, you lose, and then you leave the table. You did your thing which equals !FUN! and it's uncommon. It will also give you plenty of time between games to think for yourself about new decks or begging for someone to think for you on a japanese image board.
>>97067282https://archidekt.com/decks/16631458/multicolour_bardboiHow can I fix the mana-pool for this? I've played it 3 times at LGS and won every time, but so many of the bounce lands feel redundant like rakdos carnarium, and are only actually useful in fringe cases. Is the answer just a world tree?
>>97072410Brackets don't work.
>>97072427lmao
>>97072209I have always wanted to see/play life swap decks but I have still 0 exp on those. you pay almost all your life and then swap your total with another player or win with near death experience
>>97072385I like my gameSimple asI do not give a FUCK about some pro player bitching about commander he can fuck off
>cards I need are worth barely anything>local card shop doesn't have them all >have to use TCG player >not all cards are avaliable direct from TCG order>have to order from like a dozen different people>shipping for .30 cent cards is through the roof>their optimize cart option doesn't even work and fucks my cart up ever more>try to look at alternative sites>base prices are astronomically higher than TCG player No winning it seems
>>97072500
>>97072431Leyline of the guildpact
>>97072530I was quite literally doing exactly the same today
>>97072530>>97072548same.>you need $15 worth of cards? oh well you can pay $35
>>97072437ofc brackets can't work if retards can't even understand them>two card infinite combo? aaaaiiiiieeee B4+!!!illiterate casuals have no say in talking about whether their against the odds decks will survive an lgs playing for packs at an fnm
>>97072530This is why I use Whatnot
>>97072541Added to buylist ty. Been trying to play a bit cautious with overloading a deck with enchantments, but honestly could happily remove all of the bird cards in favour of more graveyard/ saga support.Hadn't bought packs in almost a decade but FF made me cave and I will say sorting/ filling a binder does scratch the caveman itch, feels bad when you know its generally cheaper singles mayn
>>97072530I just proxy everything now due to this
>>97072530>direct from TCG order>optimize cart optionYou should never use these two options. Direct from TCG requires you to spend fifty just to get free shipping and the optimize cart is just unusable. Just find a seller that has everything and fill up your order until you hit the five dollar free shipping.
>>97072385Why are you here if you hate commander?
>>97072582>Just find a seller that has everything and fill up your order until you hit the five dollar free shipping.Absolutely not happening
Happy Thanksgiving Ameribros
>>97072021Yeah? I told you fags they'd be scalped and cost 170+ but you told me they'd be 40 dollars because you found a site where they were sold out at that price
>>97072530>cards I need are worth barely anything>local card shop doesn't have them allyes because your cards are shit that's why they don't stock them>have to use TCG player>not all cards are avaliable direct from TCG order>have to order from like a dozen different peopleyes because your cards are shit>shipping for .30 cent cards is through the roofcase in point, .30 cent cards that aren't solid commons like sakura tribe elder are shit>their optimize cart option doesn't even work and fucks my cart up ever morethis isn't new>try to look at alternative sites>base prices are astronomically higher than TCG playeryes the biggest stores can afford to sell less to undercut the competition, just look at walmart>No winning it seemsyou were never interested in winning at edh so this whole post of yours is just dumb
>>97072593Then you're fucked. That's just it.
>>97072053Which is why I generally refuse to support them.
>>97072360looking at unpopular commanders on edhrec isn't going to magically force you to build the average edhrec deck for those commanders you fucking turkey
>>97072611Bad b8
>>97072621buy strong cards that people are bound to have in stock next time or dig through your lgs's draft chaff for your shit cards, easy
97072633b8 still bad even when doubled down
>can't even give a (You) nowyour pity party sucks and i'm just calling you out for it
>>97072360>WTF EDHREC THIS MEANS PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME TO BUILD A DECK OFF THEREAre you a retard? You're being told to check it's categories and "most popular commanders" shit to find the low numbered ones that it doesn't have a lot of decks recorded as existing. Not to actually build the deck off it. If you don't want to do that then go to moxfield, type in every legendary ever made and every deck type ever made and count them.
>>97072594Happy Thanksgiving anon. Speaking of which, is this the only card with an actual turkey on it?
>>97072360Not sure if dumb or bait
>>97072633my locals have no bulk to sort through it fucking sucks
>>97072584>you can't criticize the thing you loved. you must HATEkys
>>97072661that's true because locals don't have the inventory to do so, you'd be lucky if they could jam a box or two full of bulk in one of their two hiking bags
>>97072670you antiUB fags are the first ones to slobber on the absolute trashfire that's UW, give me a fucking break
>>97072577same. first it was just to get my landbase in check. now I just proxy my 30 cent commons to avoid shipping costs
>>97072530>find all cards and go to cart >go to pay>"some items in your cart have been moved to Saved for later">cards in my cart are being bought and removed as I'm trying to pay
>>97072670>commander existing is raping the gameAgain: Why are you here?
>>97072594Happy Thanksgiving, waiting for this damn bird to finish cooking
>>97072584>>97072703>Legend bloat>Out of control card design (even for commander)>"Everyone is heckin valid! Except the people that care about the game.">WOTC now controls the formatI don't hate commander, I hate newfags who think this shit is acceptable and are ok with lying down and taking it or tourists that don't give a shit. EDH existed alongside the game for years no problem but you're likely too new to know that.>"wotc should make what I like and nothing else"Commander is (at least was) an ALT. FORMAT meaning it bends to the main game, not the other way around. But you don't give a shit about this because I'm gonna take a good guess you don't play anything else or know anything else.
>>97072805Now its vastly more popular than the main game.A company should lean into what popular, not what whiny, entitled, manchildren brats want on basket weaving forums.You're just here to complain for the sake of complaining.
>>97072805>the evil WOTC now controls the format>oh the RC? complete angelskekw>Commander is (at least was) an ALT. FORMAT meaning it bends to the main game, not the other way around. But you don't give a shit about this because I'm gonna take a good guess you don't play anything else or know anything else.lmao speak for yourself you've never even played at a 60 card tournament beyond your lgs fnm
isn't the blue spirit kinda good? you get to draw even with blinks
>>97072860Post your DCI card.
Thoughts on attractions Golbez?
>>97072977I gave you advice on how to improve your AI art and I see you ignored all of it.
>>97072937>dox yourselfroru rumaostill seething that nobody actually cares about your shitty RC huh? haha
>>97072980if aifags were capable of improvement they wouldn't be using ai
>>97072977dogshit ai aside that doesn't even look like Golbez
>>97072989You can cover the name and some of the digits with the timestamp retard. You're a newfag not just to this game but to this site.
>>97072977Cool shit. Don't let them drag you down, Anon. Proxying is the best way to enjoy this game currently. Certainly beats engaging with WotC pricing and scalping.
>>97072977very based
>>97072873It definitely fits into lots of decks really well. I have a Flash themed Rashmi deck I slotted it into
>>97073017>aaaaaaaiiiiiieeeee nobody cares about the RC!!!haha
>>97072977Either needs more denoise or your need better promoting for your background, that's a colorful but blurry mess behind him
>>97073023Proxying is great but at least make good proxies.There's so much great art out there and it's not difficult to make great art with AI. Why would anyone settle for the cheap and mediocre option?
>>97073096this is awful though
>>97073000even with a lora it's pretty much impossible to get on model golbez, plus I want him to be happy :)
>>97073096>The mediocre optionScrolling twitter for images to upload to a custom card making website is the mediocre and lazy option.
>>97072994No one is paying you 300 for your art bro. People use AI because the alternative is commissioning someone to make an art piece for you for a fucking proxy. At that point I may as well get a fucking serialized card with how much you people charge>hehe 200 for full body coloredHow about no, fuck?
>>97073113>No one is paying you 300 for your art broThen get better at using AI.At least use a style prompt so it doesn't look like you just put a raw prompt into midjourney and called it a day.
>>97073121>No...I don't like itFeel free to charge people 10 bucks for your art then. Otherwise?CRY
I was actually asking /edhg/'s thoughts on the attractions mechanic with Golbez though.
>ah yes yet another case of proxyfags crying about AI art and that you should pay for real art (but not for real cards ofc)
Stop crying about AI and start crying about people's decksPost decks. Bonus points if mono color
>>97073108Wrong once again, child. The runescape set is so good.
How would you make a no rares budget yuriko pile?
>>97073163is that not only lowpolyshit but lowpolysloppashit?
>>97073160I need to post my Toph deck but Im bad at taking pictures
>>97073175I am too. Plight of not having a well lit living roomLight is for fags anyway
>mono whiteflicker and/or life gain>mono blueartifact combo>mono blackreanimator>mono redgroup slug, pings or damage doublers>mono greenstompy (behemoth/triump)if your deck is any of these: go to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200
>>97073185If you want to play mono you need to accept your deck is going to be in a small niche of deck types. This is the cost of wanting to have fewer options.LE LACK OF OPTIONS BREEDS CREATIVITY. Not in mono color EDH
>>97073185what if it's flicker vehicles
>>97073185>noooo you can't just kill me with bobble head artifacts in your mono blue deckYes I can.
>>97073187notice that the anon doesn't mention mono red dragons because he is in truth a casual timmy and he specifically calls out green stompy because it happens to beat the stompy decks of the other colors
>>97073160>bonus pointssign me up ese
>>97073185I will be attacking with my army of animated copied Caged Suns in mono blue and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>97073206it's because my deck is dragons
>>97073153They don't want you to pay for art, they just want you to trawl boorus and use fan art instead of AI.
>>97073219>implying that the fan art isn't often ai art too
>>97073185>mono whiteStax>mono blueGroup hug>mono blackDiscard>mono redTreasure ramp into big mana burn spells>mono greenDeathtouch control
>his deck revolves around cards that are this plus that in combination
>>97071941correct. red needs even more of these, unironically.
>>97073233There a good chance these days, whether or not it's the case doesn't change that's what these current people complaining want people to do.
>>his deck revolves around cards
>>97073185>mono whitedon't have one but if i did it would be angels/fliers to get the 7/7 bitch out>mono blueproliferate infect>mono greenselvala creature storm>mono blackchainer lol you got me but alternative is discard and your timmy ass would hate it more>mono redneheb burn
>>97073185>tfw lifegain reanimator damage doubler stompy combowell at least I'm jund
>>97073286Speaking of, I just picked up World Shaper the other day thinking it looks good to keep as my one unaltered precon. I now have five Jund decks.
>>97073121>style prompt so it doesn't look like you just put a raw prompt into midjourneyYou can't even tell what model he's using, can't trust your judgement on whether or not he's using any "style tags"
>>97073185>mono blue aggro + labman>mono green aggro + overruns (kinda like stompy I guess)>mono black aggro>mono red aggroI don't have a mono white deck.Do I have to kill myself? My mono green deck is just toski 1-drops.
>>97073185>mono whiteartifacts / indestructible tribal>mono blueflash theft>mono blacklifegain/loss>mono redtreasure voltron... with a few... damage doublers...>mono greenflash power matters + damage doublers
>>97073306>can't trust your judgement on whether or not he's using any "style tags"Well if he is using them he's not using them well. It looks like generic ai output. You can just from looking at it because of the smooth plasticine look of everything.
>>97073308I don't believe you, you ramp into eldrazi or some shit
>>97073160Six is my grigger. No one ever expects mono green reanimator.https://moxfield.com/decks/jaT8foNE2UexHoTPiCispw
>>97073313You've already proven you don't know anything about how it works or can tell what did or didn't go into it.Stop digging yourself a hole.
>>97073314https://moxfield.com/decks/ysrb-5-fcEKeCcBx-MbkpAIt's a work in progress as you can tell by the nonexistent interaction suite.
>>97073330bro your deathtouch creatures with fight spells?
>>97073160
my last post about sloppa, merry thanksgiving to one all
>>97073386Yeah those, viridian longbow, etc.I got sidetracked by another deck and never got around to finishing this one.
>>97073407See? This one looks way better than the other ones.Good job.
>>97073407>Golbez holding the balloons>name changeThat really was what this needed. If you're going to do these then you may as well have fun with it and let it be silly. Good change.
>>97073407This is the best one. I support your AI anon, I hope you make a fun deck. Attractions are fun
>>97073407HE DID ITHE MADE IT NON SHIT
>>97073407What did you change between this one and the last one
The only thing I hate in edh is when someone runs so many counters/exiles that it's like I'm playing Yugioh
>>97073677I will be playing control and you WILL like it
>>97073712>>97073712>>97073712migrate, or Oko will elk all of your commanders
>>97070453You're the sort of scrub who plays Kaalia and then throws a temper tantrum when she gets popped
>>97073715Old OP here, thanks for making a new thread. Was panic buying some early black Friday single card deals.
>>97068106Behind the scenes preorders were clearly trash if they pulled this back. They didn't even do that for the walking dead.
>>97073286oh shit fellow beamtown bullies enjoyer
