Undead babushka Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97063451 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>TQ(s)Just for fun, let's assume the 5th edition starter set will be a new Death faction. What would (you) come up with, and what would their mortarch be?
>>97069679frankenzombies and lady of all flesh
>>97069688>>>/tg/slop
>>97069679>tq(Ignoring vampire coast because that's too easy)If we go by classic horror monsters, we've got zombies, vampires and werewolves already represented under sovlblight. The mummy is off-limits because of tomb kings, and otherwise obr kind of fits the description.That leaves is with black lagoon swamp monster and frankenstein's creature. Swamp monster is not as culturally relevant as the others and is harder to connect to death anyway, so frankenstein it is.Personally I'm not the biggest fan of that particular aesthetic, but maybe others are into it idk. Picrel is as close as we got, though I seem to remember fluffwise nagash was kind of pissed off about the whole thing? Idk.
why do gitmob exist? I want to use a cool catapult but the doom diver looks so out of place next to all the moonclan stuffgive me a squig pulled catapult that launches mushrooms or moon rocks or some shit
>>97069713Becuase they were first made 8 years ago and teased as a larger thing that exists in the world
>>97069713get yourself a squig gobba recast to proxy as the doom diver or convert the doom diver catapult with spare night goblin heads
>>97069772that looks pretty awesome. I was also thinking it'd be cool to use picrel with a bad moon rock on the front. Could even colour the boulders yellow and make it look like your flinging bits of the moon at people
>>97069782You could probably make this yourself with twigs you find it the forest desu.
>>97069679>TQIDK... How about IDK?
>>97069805that's a dead faction, not a death faction
Just some random daydreaming I kinda let stir in my head, if i like what I see for cities of sigmar in their upcoming wave, I may consider making a living city themed army. My ideas thus far are:>replace the steelhelms with rootkings>basis for the rootkings will either be the miners from tow or avatar of wars berserkers (im leaning more to the miners honestly, but the beards being obscured by the axes is annoying) >thinking I can greenstuff some roots, on their biceps, maybe I can work with some leftover revanant bits and replace an arm or two for a champion model. Will also make some beards extremely dirty and find some bugs to stick on em covered in dirt. >Marshal and envoy can just be that one plastic wood elf character, dunno what to do for the envoy JUST yet. >dunno whats going on with mages just yet so ill wait to see what the previews hold >free guild cavaliers and the marshal have got to be replaced with something. Preferably with something more knightly. Im basically looking for discount order of the furrow here, don't know how im going to go about this. >ogor will be replaced with a kurnoth hunter. >great cannons, corps hunter, and fusileers are probably fine as is. Might make em more forestry and scrape off some detailing, would like to look for some head swaps though. >command groups are something that I have nothing concrete for now, but will be tons of fun for me to figure out later onI might give up the order of furrow idea for the cav if I really like the elite knights that are on foot.
>>97069852Have you seen that one order of the furrow army going around? I really like the gryphs, they fit the forest theme quite well. I think those are the pallador ones?
Am i the only one that kinda hates how the whole setting is named after Sigmar? I know its a hold over of gw trying to replicate space marines n the Emperor but he is just no where near as interesting as the Emperor. Wish theyd rebrand to like 'Age of the mortal realms' or sumAlso does anyone have any ulgu official imagery with pirate ships n whatnot (as i understand pirates hang out in ulgu). I am painting a gloomtide shipwreck and am going to theme it after ulgu pirates
>>97069713>why do gitmob exist?The better question is, why do generic Greenskinz NOT exist? Them being squatted before the TOW was a thing was such a ridiculous and stupid decision it leaves me baffled even now.Greenskinz being squatted made no sense back then when both Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz were separate armies.Greenskinz being squatted made even less sense when Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz got souped into a single book.Greenskinz being squatted when Kruleboyz appeared was beyond any reason.There was always a niche for Greenskinz, they had a perfect theme waiting to be utilised and GW clearly had some idea for them (see HoS art) that was dropped at some point. Greenskinz and Gitmob updated and rebranded as the nomadic Evil Sun'z worshippers would make a perfect counterbalance for the Bad Moon worshipping Goblins and Trolls.
>>97069890its named after sigmar because its his agethe age of chaos is over, now its the age of sigmar
>>97069890>Am i the only one that kinda hates how the whole setting is named after Sigmar?No but I hate how Sigmar is unironically one of the most neglected gods in the setting. Sometimes it feels like he is just there in the background. For a company that didn't hesitate about naming protagonists since forever, they are very reluctant about making Sigmar the actual main guy despite him giving the name for the whole thing. I know it's an unpopular opinion but I think he should get an official model just like the Barefoot Whore and Spookytard.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eh3emyas/an-adventurers-guide-to-warhammer-quest-darkwater-meet-gelgus-pust-and-his-foul-flock/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYnvDL0Qcw
>>97069890Eh age of sigmar sounds cooler than just warhammer: the mortal realms or some shit. If you want more ulgu ship stuff best to just look up misthavn art I think.
>>97069890The current Age is named after Sigmar, because Sigmar's "return" starts and defines it.The world isn't named that, just like Middle Earth isn't named Lord-of-The-Rings-Land
>>97069990>drawn from the sock of beastmen that still linger in the dark tangles of Ghyran's wild forestsbeastbros...
>>97069880I've peeped it, yeh. Might keep the pallador idea in mind.
>TQI dunno but I hope they do something with morrda narratively speakingalso dont bother making a new big bad, just have the soul blight take advantage of all the bodies and have neffy and manfred finally have a moment in the spotlight with their feuds.
>>97069921>The better question is, why do generic Greenskinz NOT exist?because gw wanted a faction of gorky orcs and a faction of morky orcs and normal greenskins were in the way of this dichotomy by being in-between but looking like the gorky orcs, unbalancing the result
>>97069679Bros sorry for the blogpost, but nobody to share with or ask.Finished my first mini ever last weekend, took a day to brush prime + assemble the 5 rats, took a whole day to paint this one pretty much (around 5-6 hours + research). I'm in love with my little dude despite his many flaws.Here is a vid: https :// files.catbox .moe /9oqqk0.mp4Yes I'm a nailbiting fat gremlin.Takeaway is that it was a good idea to skip agrax (tested on an arm on another dude, too dark would have ruined it) and used strong tone.Should have paid more attention to his little shank, as it turned out a bit too stained. Overall, I'm not sure I enjoy these wash/shade things, perhaps it's a skill issue for now.Either way I love this hobby so far, despite tendonitis and neuropathy from neck issues getting worse, I managed and it motivates me to get better as well.I'll go all in, get another paint set, more brushes are especially needed, a good clipper instead of the rust one from my toolbox. A basic knife and some files.I've been eyeing the AK interactive base set, or a vallejo one (they say they bubble idk).Also how bad are the citadel paints really? I like the citadel red more than the pinkish red in the army painter box.The pots suck for sure, but do recommend me some cool paints if you know any. I plan to paints all my rats a bit different, the next one is going to have a dark turquoise cloth and hopefully a more gray-ish fur that I try to mix up.I'll try my hand at some green edge glow on a weapon, not just a horned rat sign on shield.Best primer can?I've once again got the opportunity to get the skaven half + some terrains from skaventide for 66€ or just buy the whole box for 157€.I'm leaning towards the split one for now, but could be convinced to pick up the whole box. Does anyone have the core book from it as a pdf by any chance?That is what makes me want to get the whole box.I'll be looking up some tutorials too to get better.Thanks bros.
>>97069679>TQUNDEAD MOTHAFUCKIN' PIRATESZombie crewmen battleline with cutlass and pistolGhoul privateers with grappling hooks to quickly close gapsSpectral cannoneersElite vampire corsairs with either big gun or big harpoonGiant monster made of coral and ship debrisNew Mortarch of the Abyss since Luthor's dead who rides into battle on their own little boat manned by ghosts
>>97070350>UNDEAD MOTHAFUCKIN' PIRATESI'm fine if TOW calls dibs on that one.
>>97069679>TQ Necromancer focused faction with units consisting of monsters from mortal realmsMaybe let them use units from other grand alliances with some obvious limitsEncourage kitbashing by having those units be converted to look undead>>97070369Vampirates with either come after kislev or neverRumor is GW regrets giving CA creative freedom to create them in the first place
>>97070298>Does anyone have the core book from it as a pdf by any chance?>That is what makes me want to get the whole box.https://gofile.io/d/xrbqlh
>>97070389>Rumor is GW regrets giving CA creative freedom to create them in the first placeGW is not beholden in the slightest to stick to what CA made.The only worthwhile ideas they had were making the necrofex colossus a zombie pirate unit instead of a generic undead unit, and making a hermit crab that uses a shipwreck as shell, that's it, everything else is either trash or stuff that they didn't make themselves.
>>97070389>Rumor is GW regrets giving CA creative freedom to create them in the first placeIn any case I think it's a good idea to reserve Vampirates for TOW. It goes saome ways towards placating the people currently disappointed that vampires in TOW are Legends only, it appeals to potential newcomers from the Total War (which, let's be honest, was a huge consideration for launching TOW in the first place), and since the faction isn't necessarily pinned down to any specific conflict in the Old World of the pre-Great War era, it'd be easy to use them to expand on conflicts in the Southlands or the far east. Conversely I don't think there's a great case for putting them in AoS where their niche greatly overlaps with SBGL.
I'm confused. Didn't they post this exact same article just a couple days ago? Also apparently I like the Lorax better when he's green.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ncmflumo/the-warhammer-community-team-paint-the-heroes-of-warhammer-quest-darkwater/
>>97069710What makes you think that GA death is about classic horror monster tropes?
>>97070474one was "influencers paint latest product"this is "interns paint latest product"
>>97070298enjoy your rats brother, I see you already did a little freehand on the shield, good work.>>97070474This one is staff painted vs partner randos I suppose?
>>97070389Aren't twwh vampirates bases off one white dwarf (?) army list in the first place? I think only cyclostra is made up by ca, and some tinkering with other units to make them more coastal, like the necrofex.>>97070480Nothing per se, just that gw likes (or at least used to like) riffing classic themes.
>>97070415Thanks a lot! Made the decision a lot easier on what to get next.I really didn't feel like spending extra for books and stuff when that money could get me some globadiers in the future.>>97070496Thanks. I'll try to heat up a needle and melt a little symbol into the shields of another one in the future.Didn't do it this time because I tried to carve one into the stone/technical paint, but it just crumbled so I got cold feet.
>>97070350>vampiratesthat shit fucking sucks and should stay in the /tow/ dumpster
>>97070534Nah if it means it can bring back grand alliance death I’ll take it, just take out pirates from the title.
>>97070350AAAAHHH AHHH THE BLOOD RUNS COLD
>>97070520>Thanks a lot! Made the decision a lot easier on what to get next.Note that we have rumors of skaven getting a new small wave of models soon, in another spearhead VS spearhead boxset. containing a special named assassin, new gutter runners and new night runners, if you're interested in eshin skaven, it might be something to look forward, whenever that drops.
>>97070557Runs all the way back to redit where you belong
>>97070350I like them, but like >>97070449 said I think if I was a gw executive I would send them to tow, especially if they don't plan on bringing back normal vamps, which is still a question mark I guess. They'd fill a bigger niche there than they would in aos.
>>97070562Yeah that makes it even easier of a decision to not get the full box, as I don't care for the stormcast much at all.I'll try to grab the battleforce once I finish painting the skaventide dudes and then get the box you mention if it's released by then.With all this I should have a full force to look for a playgroup in nearby towns if I work up the courage.
Am I blind or is Wahapedia missing Spearhead content altogether? If yes, can someone help me with Sand & Bone rules and cards scans?
Has anyone tried swapping the arms on these two kits yet? It looks like it could work...
>>97069956Personally I think it makes less sense for the gods to have actual tabletop models considering their power level in the lore. They generally end up being overcosted on points so they're never used or overcentralizing because they're so strong. I think Sigmar should get a model, but it should be a cool joytoy display model, not a unit for the game.
>>97070562>vs box sets that aren't startersI really wish they'd stop releasing shit like that
>>97069679>TQI think GW has done a poor job trying to section out the factions by type of undead and generally haven't done enough with the death factions they do have. Nighthaunt is functionally one model, OBR is good, but they don't do enough with the bone construct thing. FEC has like two models that actually communicate the idea of the delusion, everything else is just an ugly ghoul and SBG goes too hard into the chaff when what people really wanted was an army of elite vampires and vampire werewolves. I'd much rather they update and flesh out existing factions than try to figure out how to seperate one kind of undead into it's own faction.
>>97070781>what people really wanted was an army of elite vampiresThis is something gw shouldnt really deliver on. The vyrkos retards are the best thing they could have done, really to get to that idea.
>>97070760It's the only way they can have boxes without stormshits since they forced themselves into a corner with them.
>>97070731>because they're so strongThey should not be so strong then. Gods that were mortal once should be of superhuman power but definitely not on the Chaos Gods level. Alarielle, Nagash, Morathi or Nagash should be figures of immense command powers, extraordinary rulers but not omnipotent. In GW terms I would rather see them being of Primarch power level or reasonably higher but nowhere as strong as the Emperor not to mention Chaos deities.
>>97070781they need some death factions that arent beholden to nagash, and some destruction factions that arent the product of gorkamorka. break this trend of monotheistic origins within half the grand alliances, make them more like order and chaos with a broad pantheon
>>97070870Nagash should transcend Chaos God level and start influencing our reality.
>>97070870>no where as strong as the emperorSigmar and Nagash literally bring back people from the dead to fight for him, how are they not both completely above the corpse emperors power level?
>>97070870>but not omnipotentthats not how gods work. thats not how the age of sigmar gods have ever worked> I would rather see them being of Primarch power leveldefinitely not.
>>97070895>Sigmar and Nagash literally bring back people from the dead to fight for himNagash is a necromancer which is self-explanatory. Resurrecting people is not unheard of in both universes.Is Sigmar able to do so based solely on his abilities? I thought the SCE gimmick is all about magi-tech shenanigans?>>97070904>thats not how the age of sigmar gods have ever workedNever said so?
>>97070886yeah destruction being the gorkamorka faction is silly, they don't need to be tied to that at all. Especially with how we already have destruction factions that worship other things. I think it would be hard to have death factions that aren't in some way beholden to nagash, unless they were undead in a different way than how the current deathfactions exist.
>>97070637Flat joint Vs a concave one The main question is why would you want to
>>97070926> I thought the SCE gimmick is all about magi-tech shenanigans?the SCE gimmick is that Sigmar takes the souls of dead imperial soldiers and brings them back from the dead repeatedly as juiced up super soldiers. It's not some infinity circuit magi-tech, it's Sigmar grabbing peoples souls and doing what he wants with them, same with nagash.
>>97069880That's the chariot gryphs
>>97070886>gorkamorkaJust looking through destruction factions I always felt they are way too lame, because they feel like bargain bin orks and their lackeys reskinned, ugly fatties and giant ugly fatties.When I first heard that somehow a Gorkamorka which is the ork one (gork and mork in 40k) is somehow also the mad moon of the gitz I lost all interest.I don't get the appeal at all personally.
>>97070956>It's not some infinity circuit magi-tech, it's Sigmar grabbing peoples souls and doing what he wants with themI don't think it's true considering that it wasn't possible before the Anvil of Apotheosis. The process can also take centuries to be finished.
>>97070931maybe exalted undead, a more necromantic version of the stormcast idea where the honored dead are brought back as revenants to fight against nagash who seeks to torment the dead and break the world. maybe play off of morrda or gazul or something
>>97070966Da Bad Moon isn't GorkamorkaThere are a number of in-universe speculations as to what it is but none of them are that (the closest is that it's a moon that sucked up some of his essence when he broke his teeth on it)
>>97070974The way they portray reforging in Sigmar's Toll is a guy going "oops I took a mortal wound, okay see you later jeff" before the guy cuts his head off and sends him to go get reforged. That, and they keep keep records of hundreds of reforgin instances for single stormcast soldiers so I don't think there's a particularly big gap between them being cut down on the battlefied and reforging. Regardless, bringing back souls is bringing back souls and while I'm not well versed on 40k stuff, I don't hear about big E doing shit like that.
>>97070993>the closest is that it's a moon that sucked up some of his essence when he broke his teeth on itIsn't there also something about a spider biting gorkamorkas toe and becoming a deity too?This is absolutely lame to me. (Again, personal taste I don't wanna attack something others enjoy.)Wish it was confirmed they are something much cooler and separate.I like the gitz aesthetically otherwise. Might end up as my second pick.Destruction as a whole feels like an odd bunch of factions.
>>97070926>Is Sigmar able to do so based solely on his abilities?He got help in the know-how, and possibly in powering the process, from a few different placesnote the dracoths and stardrakes reincarnate as well, natively so too, so the big dragon has definitely something to do with how stormcasts work
>>97070993Wasnt the bad moon a tzeentch entity in fantasy?
>>97070870the primarchs are punks compared to the order gods in aos
going to read the eight lamentations, what am I in for?
>>97071022>Isn't there also something about a spider biting gorkamorkas toe and becoming a deity too?Yes, that's the explanation for Da Spider God in AoS. As a spider fan, I would have preferred if it were a wholly independent entity too.>>97071029Not sure. Tzeentch did always have moon motifs. Da Bad Moon does show up in that one famous map of the realm of chaos, but it's kind of just floating there with no justification or attached lore.
>>97071066An unfinished series.
>>97071029Not really, nothere was morrslieb, the warpstone moon, which wasn't associated with any faction specifically but that pretty much all evil factions found empowering, chaos guys, undead guys, and green guys.Green guys also had some moon iconography and a spell calling out the bad moon, but orks in 40k too have moon iconography, and both also have sun symbols too, it's just heraldry and maybe cultural beliefs.similarly tzeentch had a number of moon-related iconography in his models, but it's not necessarily the warpstone moon specifically either, just cool symbolism for the occult, to anyone's guess.when a map of the realm of chaos was published in the 8th ed demons army book, there it was a celestial object called the bad moon, is it associated with any of the gods? doesn't seem so; is it the shadow/soul of the warpstone moon? who knows, nothing was written about it.Now the soul of the warpstone moon is in aos, as a moon in the realm of death, so I guess nagash got that one in the end.And also there's the goblins' bad moon roaming around which seems very unrelated, and who knows if the realm of chaos still has a bad moon in its own skies, probably does given the timelessness of the place, how everything is made to fit together is a matter of headcanon at this point.
>>97071070I like Gorkamorka being a titan esque Greek figure for Destruction desu. A single god spawning an entire schizophrenic pantheon is pretty cool
>>97071110It's the most interesting theology in the mortal realms.
apart from serving under nagash, what makes the identity of grand alliance death?order has civilization and hating chaoschaos has the different flavors of chaosdestruction has anarchy and being wild
>>97071130different flavors of serving nagash
>>97071110Mhyea it's a neat concept but when every single faction in destruction just HAS to follow this clearly greenskin deity through some bullshit it just ruins both concepts. I'd much rather giants/ogres/gits get their own proler religions, and the gorkamorka interpretations can be different cults within ironjawz and kb.
>>97071158>I'd much rather giants/ogres/gitsGiants come from behemat, that only was a champion of gorkamorka but not created by him.Ogres are going back to maw worship with the refresh.The bad moon is also only connected to gorkamorka in that it stole power from him in the teeth breaking and spider god egg myth.
>>97071020>The way they portray reforging in Sigmar's Toll is a guy going "oops I took a mortal wound, okay see you later jeff" before the guy cuts his head off and sends him to go get reforgedI stick with campaign books and battletomes for the lore so that's new to me, and honestly it sucks. Reforging was a big deal in the 1E and 2E era, especially when Sigmar learnt he is soulfucking SCEs with every reforging.>That, and they keep keep records of hundreds of reforgin instances for single stormcast soldiers so I don't think there's a particularly big gap between them being cut down on the battlefied and reforgingAgain, that's underwhelming. Vandus being reforged two times was already experiencing side effects of the process.
>>97071158They do have their own religions, they just have stories that connect them to gorkamorka as well.GM hasn't replaced the bad moon, or the spider god, or ymnog or behemat.They did handle the maw badly, but they are rectifying that now, according to the rumors.The real fuckups are kragnos and the disconnection between the idea that the gitmob don't truly worship the sun which is poorly expressed by the models, to put it politely, or just some absolute fucking bullshit excuse they cooked up last minute to justify them sharing a book, to put it honestly.
>>97071130Something that pisses both the everqueen and nagash off, true stagnation.
>>97071192>The bad moon is also only connected to gorkamorka in that it stole power from him in the teeth breaking and spider god egg myth.NTA but you are 100% wrong.
SALES UPDATE: TOW Marauders sold like hotcakes. Darkwater gearing up to be a potential flop? Find out more! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnB6rSJLYUc
>>97070945looks cool
>>97071283Everyone was hype for Darkwater until they saw the pricetag. $250 is a lot of money for a board game.
>>97071237>NTA but you are 100% wrong.two creation myths of the bad moon have it as their own entity that steals power from Gorkamorka and one is completely unrelated to him, that being the grot soul myth.The everwinter is also supposedly a aspect of gorkamorka but we also have information that it could be old death gods that blessed the BCR tribes for freeing them of their imprisonment.
>>97071230My issue is that the gorkamorka stuff often overpows the more interesting normal region stuff. I'm less familiar with gargants and ogres, but the origin stories of the bad moon make it essentially a sidekick of gorkamorks at best, if not just literally a form of gorkamorka or some bullshit. It's annoying.
>>97071283People liked the idea of Darkwater more so than Darkwater itself
>>97071283Dude keep your sloptubers to yourself
>>97071303>Like all greenskins, the Gloomspite Gitz worship Gorkamorka.That alone ends the discussion, you seem to miss the memo.>two creation myths of the bad moon have it as their own entity that steals power from GorkamorkaWrong again.>Every sub-race of greenskins worships their own aspect of Gorkamorka, and each maintains their own myths of their deity’s deeds.>The shamans tell how the tusk-scarred rock was infected with Gorkamorka’s power and became the Bad Moon, a mighty celestial aspect of the god of destruction.Anon it's okay to be wrong. This stuff is literally in their Battletome.
>>97071283meanwhile, at my local store
>>97071283why is the whole channel about doomsaying? wouldn't you want hobby content on your store's channel?
>>97071283The fuck is with all the Lords of War shilling this week.Chris and/or Jay knock this shit out you fags
>>97071373My local gaming store that I basically only use to buy paint because they sell at full MSRP has added a TOW section, squeezed in between 40K and AoS. I have literally never seen anyone buy or even look at any of it while I've been in the shop. Takes up a lot of space, too, since all those old models have zero sprue density and the boxes are enormous.
>>97071417That's it's own channel. It's pretty good
>>97071348You guys are both right, in a way. The early lore which most people only remember from the kickass Christmas reveal video was a lot more ambiguous about it all but the battletome lore has increasingly moved away from the video. I'm glad Ogors at least are being given a chance to do their own thing again, even though losing Leadbelchers is a tragedy. I suspect it's mostly done to create distance from Cities, which seems to increasingly be mixing Ogors and even Giants with Gunpowder weapons.
>>97071430The situation at mine is really funny: Everyone loves playing TOW and they play it all of the time, but I don't know if anyone actually buys the TOW boxes. It's mostly old revitalized Fantasy collections and AoS models on squares.
>>97071417That's just their "business model", just trying to ragebait people intonclicking. >the old world dead on arrival>old world outselling aos?!>old world flopping?>aos dying in favour of old world?>old world STILL not getting any players>aos in serious trouble!>old world dying again??On and on and on, ragebaiting both aos and tow players. I suppose it works, but why the fuck two people who supposedly have a store to run bother with this shit I have no idea. Anyone here ever been to their store by any chance?
>>97071283
>>97069679>Undead babushka EditionWhy are you so interested in the topic of undead Grandmother?Do you have no respect for the dead people and the Tsardom of the dead people?
>>97071302I was excited, but expected it to be half of that.Maybe I was too dumb for thinking so.idk.
>>97071283How many more flops in a row can AoS manage before they can it?
>>97071525Cringe clickbait thumbnails aside, many of those points are valid.SWLegion is not doing well.Warmachine Mk4 is doing much better now that Privateer Press is dead but the 3D printed slop-with-plastic starters mix is a terrible idea.MCP I have no opinion.K47 is a massive flop and letdown. Current Kill Team is an awful game, literally no redeeming quality.GW is treating retailers in an awful way. The Boarding Patrol fiasco was the final straw and a deal breaker for many stores I personally know.
>>97071207> Vandus being reforged two times was already experiencing side effects of the process.don't get it twisted, they very much experience the side effects after being reforged that many times and in the specific case they showed in the show, one stormcast completly forgot another that had fought together with them in their previous life, hence why they record their deeds in each life.
>>97071430>they sell at full MSRPWhat's the point of even running a store like this when other retailers have up to 25% discount?
>>97071583>I was excited, but expected it to be half of that.>Maybe I was too dumb for thinking so.Yeah, kinda. Though I'll admit it was $30 more than I was expecting. This does mean that the 40k edition box is gonna be like in the $280-300 ball park when 11th hits which is going to be a real limitus test for gw.
>>97071480haven't personally but one guy posted here saying he went their a couple times and their store sucked ass compared to his usual LGS.
>>97071302>everyone was hype for darkwater until they saw the price tagI think people were interested until they saw the models and no one but nurgle players have any reason to buy the box.
>>97071630you might as well say the cover then at that point
>>97071599these would be valid points if they weren't running a store trying to push this product. A smarter person would lie and be enthusiastic about most of the products that come in and not bash everything but mainline 40k.
>>97071618They have a reward points program instead, but it's too fucking complicated to engage with most of the time, you basically don't get a discount unless you previously bought something there AND you have to hope that the cashier you're dealing with is not too retarded to look up and apply your discount properly. That said, a few days ago I walked there to pick up some paint and walked out with two bottles of contrast+a box of Bull Centaurs for like $15 because I had so many accumulated points just from very occasionally buying shit over the years. Still a stupid and overcomplicated system anyway you look at it, and particularly unfriendly to first time customers which is a crazy bad idea for a game store.
>>97071621Fair enough.I'll just get the red cape guy and Qulathis from the other box from ebay or something.
>>97071638They don't bash everything thobeit. They said the marauders were amazing and sold out super fast. It's only darkwater that flopped in their store.
someone remind me the significance of the title of mallus. I swear i've heard it before but I cant remember what it means. Trying to figure out why the new wizard for COS is titled after it
>>97071710mallus is the name of the metallic core or the warhammer world that sigmar is mining to extract sigmarite to make his sigmarines.around it is built a ring of forges and workshops where stormcasts' stuff is built, the sigmarabulum, which also incorporates the fortress of sigmaron, the seat of sigmar and the place of the anvil of apotheosis, above it is sigendil a star kept in place to power much and act as point of reference all across the realms
>>97071739not to be mistaken with azyrheim, the city built on the mountains below the planetoid, all on the realm of azyr, or sigmarion, which honestly I don't remember what it was, but it was definitely something distinct from sigmaron.
>>97071710That's what the old planet was called. I think it literally means "hammer" in some Euro language
>>97071765malleus is hammer in latinmallus is flock of woolmalus is apple or bad
>>97071599>K47 is a massive flop and letdown.They seem pretty pro K47 but down on the most recent Bolt Action edition
>>97071790Malus is apple; malum is evil
what are you working on /aosg/? im trying to get these prosecutors from skavenblight finally out of the way
Happy Thanksgiving /aosg/ I hope you have a good day!
>>97071845malus is bad when it's an adjective, malum uses the neutral because it's a noun.
>>97071854I WANT MY FUCKING SUPPLIES TO COME IN ALREADY SO I CAN ASSEMBLE SHIT! but for now im busy stuffing my fucking gullet with food I guess. Happy thanksgiving btw to whoever isnt Indian or or Estonian.
>>97071283Good, I want scalpers splitting it to get fucked by just getting more than breaking even
>>97071858USA USA USA!
>>97069890Agree. Much rather it be something not tied into a specific character.
>>97071854Nothing today, but I finished my 2nd squad of Bladelords earlier this week and photographed them last night. I've got 2 more minis I need to finish by the end of the year if I want to finish my backlog; Ikon of the Sea and an Enlightener. I can knock them out easily before then, I think.I've been tempted with the new SCE for the longest time because it all looks so good but upon further reading the army doesn't seem as tanky as it looks and I really don't want another army that's reliant on precision to operate. Yours is coming along nicely, I'm always a fan of purple.
>>97071854That purple is ZESTY
>>97071661Those loyalty points systems never are more worthwhile than buying somewhere cheaper.If you went somewhere with a discount, you would have saved thousands instead
>>97071999thanksi was worried it wouldnt look good but im happy with the result
>new product comes out>costs money>I'm actually very poor and lazy, but I deserve this product and it's gws fault I can't have itIt really happens every time too. Oh well.
>>97071283>>97071525>lords of war so deperate for any money that they're drama griftingWew lad, I heard torchlight hurt their player base when people realized that they could drive 15 minutes to play in a well lit room that's been swept at some point in the past 15 years instead of the disgusting basement. They stopped putting battle mats down there a few years back because people kept pointing out they were getting chewed on by mice.
>>97072026Yeah obviously, which is why the only times I frequent that shop is one I need a specific paint in a hurry. It's too bad too, since it's a short walk from my house and literally no other major store in my city that I'm aware of, but I order 90% of my shit online for a reason.
...is darkwater even up for preorder? Should be this sunday right?
>>97072112its a shame torchlight has just turned into a MTG store and does nothing to support AOS
>>97071630>>97071635Pretty sure most were hoping the unrevealed heroes would be interesting. Sadly they were not.
>>97072126Yeah idk what the deal is with that. I get mtg is the most profitable but when they were building that new store up they were going on and on about how much wargaming space they would have
>>97071417Attention whoring. Though they probably tell themselves that the more attention they get, no matter how they do it, will mean more business for their store.
>>97072126>>97072160Where I'm at card games are much bigger than wargames in general, mostly pokemon. Even 40k can't hold a candle to them. The whales also spend money in a way that's not really possible for wargames.
>>97072244well yeah card tgames are a market that will never be beat. They do one thing gw can never get right, logistics and space.
>>97072112The absolute state Canadians are spiritually jeets
>found somebody looking to sell an idk spearhead for 75 yurobucks>msrp for the box is 120, which is already like a 40% discount compared the separate kitsIt's calling to me bros but this almost feels too good to be true. Seller's account is like 2 decades old though and has good reviews.I think I finally understand the fomo piggies now.
Now that the dust has settled, why did the HoH flop?
I like Vhordrai.
>>97072589I curse Vishnu and whatever other Pajeet demons you think I care about also HoH flopped
>>97071854Goddamn that purple goes hardworking on a base for a squig
>>97072606cool chameleon squig
>>97072599Context?
>>97072567People liked the idea of Helsmiths, more so than the actual Helsmiths
>>97072614kekthe squig is going on last, didnt want him in the way while painting the shrooms
>>97072635the vampfag ruins it
>>97072635Now this is new
>>97072602i piss on shiva and all poopoo brain hindus
>>97072635What the fuck is going on with that vampire (?)Also is that a darkoath or some warcry cultist she's standing on? Lmao the heels.
>>97072635me under the heel
>>97072634Still trying this script eh
>>97072635>suns out guns out tomboy vampire mommy I need it
>>97072635Cool. Was this in the battletome?
I had a dream we got a blurry leak of demon Khul and he looked like this
>>97072709No it's fan art
>>97072721I kinda hope demon models leave some leenway for abstraction moving forward. Or are just, weirder. idk how to put it.
>>97072721Okay, Vandus.
>>97072759
>>97072721Yeah, we're all expecting to be disappointed when it turns out he's got no scorpion features and is just another bloodthirster.
>>97072684Anon as long as you keep replying he's going to keep posting
>>97072771photoshop kitbashers deserve the rope. The second you are scaling bits you have made your conversion impossible and therefore wasted yours and anyone else's time. Those arachnarock legs are far too small
>>97071854Assembled and greenstuff'd a Wildercorps Hunters squad
>>97072771>and is just another bloodthirster.Good god please no. I don’t need it to compare to angron.
>>97072786Or the jannies could maybe do what they're supposed to. Unless it's a janny doing it, which would make sense honestly
>>97072788Anon that's just somebody trying to conceptualize a khul model, not some kitbash test
>>97072788This isn't a kitbash Anon, it's a rough estimation what someon wants a new model to look like
>>97072087I can easily afford it, but it's not worth the money to me.
>>97072788It's not meant to be a conversion idea, anon, it's no different than photoshopping artworks together like >>97072721
>>97072760An OC demon prince i considered was a former wizard who went mad and offered his own skull to Khorne as a payback for his use of magic and Khorne gave him a bunch of buff stone arms to carry his rotting corpse (leting him punch things instead of cast spells) Very rough visualisation
>>97072087>new product comes out>relatively good value for money, provided you have extra money to spare>buy now or get fucked by scalpers >kind of want to buy it, but expenses on the family front and visible pile of shame makes me choose to skip on itSometimes these sets end up on second hand but you have to have money ready to dip in or hope there's no demand
>>97072845Use metal wires and make something similar to the Heretic Chorister from TCPenitent Engines have good humans you could use along with it
>>97072845Makes me think of some of the whackier aztec deities.Maybe that one anon always talking about mesoamerican khorne in the last few threads was on to somrthing.
>>97072882Isn't one of the Aztec gods someone's ripped off head orbiting the sky?
>>97072796It’s not against board rules to show people that HoH sold poorly anon.
>>97072882As a Mestizo I would back Aztec Khorne 108%
>>97072905meds
>>97072905Why do you think they sold poorly? Didn't they sell out on gw's website in like 5 minutes?
>>97073010They are rotting on shelves all over NA at deep discount. I don’t think. I know. GW doesn’t produce a set number of each kit. They tailor to perceived demand. If the limited edition boxes are still available at tons of retailers months after release it’s an objective flop.
>>97073025>I don't thinkYeah we can tell lolAnyway, would you consider boxes like the new marauder reinforcement one for tow a flop, or say the 40k assault terminator one?
>>97073046No, because the marauder box hasn’t even released yet and it’s mostly sold out at third parties, and the Battleforces haven’t been out long enough to be deemed a flop. The EC/squat battleforces will probably be flops long term but it’s too early to tell.
>>97073058>mostlyInteresting, interesting. Now, crux terminatus has been out for about a month now, surely that's long enough to make a statement on the success of the box, no?
>>97072845
>>97071066A conan reference .
So how is the new Skink novel? Bait and switch lesbian love-drama like Bad Loon Rising?
>>97073085What’s your point? Are you trying to claim that HoH limited edition army launch sets have on shelves in massive numbers at discount doesn’t mean they flopped? Why are you so delusional?
>>97073106answer the question
>>97073106I see you've dodged my question for the second time now, I'm wondering why that is?
>>97073110>>97073115What part of enough time hasn’t passed yet to determine that don’t you understand.
>>97073097no homosex, unless you count the emotional charge between a saurus and a stormcast.it's a very short and straightforward story that drags at times because its one purpose is displaying the different mentalities between humans and lizards, way way more than in carrying forward a sprawling plot, and it does so through multiple humans and multiple lizards points of view.if you're looking for a point of reference for lizards mentality this is a book to read, if you're looking for an adventure or some kind of lore reveals or worldbuilding, not so much.
>>97073158I'm referring to crux terminatus, not the christmas battleforces, which has been out for long enough to make an assessment as to its success, wouldn't you say so? I mean, this post >>97072684 shows that you've been speculating on the helsmiths box for quite a while...So again, would you consider crux terminatus a flop?
>>97073159It's not an adventure? There must be a story in there right?
>>97073251Yes, but it doesn't really move that far, all in all.
>>97072696There's definitely some chick in Mannfred's legion who wears a tank top armor just like his.
>>97072905No but it is against board rules to spam the same phrase over and over again which is what you're doing. Your content isn't a rule break if it's posted once. When it's posted every single thread it's spamming or avatarfagging.
>>97073372Bro your Settraposter?
>>97073397Unironically a bot
>>97073397Is a bot, but also is a sign of the jannies not putting any effort in yes
>>97073290That's disappointing.
>>97073418>>97073423Wouldn't that make it more likely to get banned?
>>97073397>>97073423Have you guys taken a look at 40kg recently? Admittedly I don't know what the fuck half of it means, but it seems to be 90% ritualposters and people melting down in response. The jannies clearly don't give a fuck, and if they don't care about the fastest thread on this board they're unlikely to give a fuck about the flopposter or the settrabot here.That being said I do remember the flopposter getting btfo by the jannies once like a month ago, so maybe they aint all bums.
>>97073449You forgot to mention the resident clown and his schizo orbiters that bait him into meltdowns almost every thread. It's such a fucking shitshow there's literally no way anyone moderates it.
>>97073323Female Legion of Night vamps tend to be tin cans, go figure.>Karlina von Carstein, only has a name and armor>Carmilla DuSang, generic vamp sculpt, former Legion of Blood vamp defected to Legion of Night>Konar, book only, led the invasion of Calyx, vassal kingdom of NeferataThey just don't do scantily dressed ladies in the LoN.
>>97073445>>97073449At a certain point the jannies just give up trying to stop those spamming and ban evading unless the janny has a personal interest in the post. See the dark eldar refresh poster who famously posts every single thread without fail, is shit on almost every single thread, over 700 times in a year, but has been deleted once ever while other ritual/avatarfags are pruned almost instantly alongside anything else the janny dislikes. Either the settraposter and flopposter are jannies, or the jannies have given up putting in any effort. How many hours did that racist meltdown from yesterday stay up before getting pruned? 24hours? Longer? Now post a piece of art with exposed nipples and watch how fast it disappears
>>97073372Posting once a thread isn’t spam it’s a ritualpost new friend. Enjoy your stay and watch out for niggers!
>>97073549>ritualposting>not spamfuck off, tourist
Sigmar lied.
>>97073578In no way shape or form does one post per thread constitute spam. You can’t find a definition to support your crazy views.
>>97071984Damn that's nice.
>>97073607
>>97073615It’s not indiscriminate by definition. I am sending the message here, a thread about age of sigmar, due to it being an age of sigmar thread, and the HoH being an AoS army and AoS flop
>>97073622nah you're a fucking retard and the only reason you're not being banned is because this place has 0 moderation, kill yourself
I’m looking to add a 2nd army to my collection. I have only played spearhead before but I’ve painted tons of models and I enjoy seeing my club of monks sitting on my shelf. I’d like to diversify and find an army I can enjoy painting firstly, and have in my back pocket should I finally start big AoS games. I got the Skaven half of Skaventide I got for about $110 and I like the skryre look and theme. I also have a gitz spearhead with lots of squigs but I’ve since swung to prefer goblins. The loon shrine is pretty much mandatory right? I know squigs and trogs have always been good but I want to run green goblins mostly.Idk guys I’m pretty torn and I already have lots of Nurgle painted, so I’m waiting for their big upcoming wave to drop anyway. Somebody give me the skinny on playing or collecting CoS (greywater fastness colors), skryre and moonclan (I don’t like huge centerpiece models). I’d appreciate any wisdom from the old fags and I’m willing to start small to see what the painting experience is like for a new faction.
>>97073627I literally posted the dust post in the last thread, or two threads ago. Where some other guy went on a schizo fake Pajeet false flag pretending to be me. He was banned and his posts deleted. My posts, including the dust post were not. There is moderation here and it’s active, posting once a thread isn’t spam simple as
>>97073657They don't delete every single post you make when you're banned every time. I think that's just for range bans. You ban evading after your meltdown doesn't mean your spam isn't spam
>>97073657>some guy pretended to be me and got deleted!Really not helping the whole being the jannies special boy allegations
>>97073679Occam’s razor
>>97073641so it sounds like your looking to get into a horde faction between those three. CoS has the option to play more elite but if your not interested in centerpiece models than whatever you do is going to be more horde-y. Cities is a lot of painting to do, skaven a good chunk less but you'l need to learn how to paint fur which can be annoying. Gitz will be the easiest to paint, which is handy because playing moonclan requires you paint a lot of models. Regardless of which you pick it'll be a decent time investment, with gobs having the easiest time painting and worst pay off gameplay-wise, Cities being the hardes to paint but the best payoff gameplay wise. Even if you want to focus on moonclan, you probably still want some squigs or gitmob cavalry for tactics.
>>97073641pick your army based on models and not anything else
>>97073641If you have only ever played spearhead before play like 5-10 games of 4th before you even think of buying new models. The game has changed for the worse so nice 3rd massively and it’s killed the local AoS scene down to just being spearhead. I am not trying to doom post, lots of people enjoy 4e, but a lot of AoS players have dropped out of the game because of it. So make sure you know what you are buying into. Spearhead IS NOT 4e.
>>97072087Good taste.On topic I feel like a lot of these boxes are just not completely my cup of tea and at that point the price can't be justified for me personally.You have what is effectively a board game in skaventide for example, but if you hate one half, do you sell it, do you not paint it and keep it or what?I hate playing second hand vendor in card games already, being forced here as well is not fun.If you sell half, you don't have the whole "board game", if you only wanted a few minis, might as well buy them second hand from someone who splits.Then you might not have some goodies.There is really no feelgood way to go about this unfortunately, but box sets are always the best value, so you are still kinda railroaded into buying them and splitting and selling...TL:DR if it's filled with what feels like junk box filler it better be cheap because the subjective value of X models is much lower to me than their asking price.If it's expensive, then I better like all the stuff in it.
>>97072944>MestizoHad to look this up wondering why one would refer to themselves like this.I thought this was some slur word made up for that one goblin mutt meme chart.
>>97073025Man, Americans have lives on east mode.Sold out to quickly here
>>97073397Settrabot is an endearing part of aosg history.
>>97074004Fuck, phone posting at work has me looking like an ESL
>>97074003effectively it is, mestizo, mulatto and zambo are words spaniards would use to refer to their half-breed neighbors. Most of Mexico is now mestizo, interbred and having no real cultural connection to Spain or their indigenous heritage.
>>97074003It's like the only accurate name for us
>>97073608Thanks!
>>97073607Remember when you got banned for spamming it and threw a tantrum a month ago? Lol
>>97074087It's REALLY nice. I actually can't stop looking at them.
>>97074119Glad you like them! If you've got a question about any of the recipes, let me know.
>>97069679>>TQ(s)>Just for fun, let's assume the 5th edition starter set will be a new Death faction. What would (you) come up with, and what would their mortarch be?I'd want a new science undead faction lead by a reincarnation (or someone who found remnants of for inspiration) of Drachenfells. Since supposedly Drachenfells was doing spooky undead shit before even Nagash was there and having a sort of Nagash-less faction of Undead or a magicless undead faction might be interesting. I vaguely recall he might be in AOS as the weird forgotten essense from the end times, so maybe he comes back and is recruited by Nagash but Nagash forbids him from using direct magic so instead he finds a way around this.Frankensteins, weird mutant freaks, steampowered zombies, electro-skeletons. All that crazy shit. I think it'd be fun to have some more zany undead, maybe specific mixed bodies of like Dwarves, humans, lizardmen, elves, mish mash golems and flesh creatures with as we've discussed before a lady frankenstein esque stitch-woman.
>>97074113No actually I don't but I do find it endearing that a bunch of you have created your own mythos regarding me. Feels kind of nice, very interested to see where you guys take it.
>>97073641If you go with Moonclan (and literally want just grots) you can get skraggrot, 20 grots, fantatics, squig herd, and snufflers for like... 13 bucks a kit from stormbringer. If you REALLY want to just do grots and no squigs or troggs that's a good way to do it on the cheaper end. (you'll still need a fuck ton because gloomspite you need a lot of dudes.)
>>97074149>i-it didn't happen it didnt!!!lol
>>97074177How dare you post proof!!I wonder if HoH spammer is the bald map spammer too.
So is there any reason to pre-order darkwater from GW? Or is it sane to just wait until its on sale elsewhere for a reduced price.
>>97074177>Immediately BTFOing him with receiptsMy body is kneeling all on its own
Now that the dust has settled, why did HoH spammer come back next thread to do it again?
>>97074177This is going in my cringe compilation so I can share it next time he posts.
>>97074213It's a holiday weekend for most of the civilized world. If you're shitposting today it's because you have nothing going on in your life
>>97074203There's is almost never any reason to ever buy direct from GW and there is 0 reason for a regular non limited supply box like Darkwater
>>97074244uh huh
>>97074269This.Especially considering the price. I'm actually hoping they overproduce it and scalpers need to sell at a loss. Because I sure as hell am not spending that much money on it
>>97074354I mean cursed city stuff still is for sale, I remember when 10 skeletons or zombies was like 20 bucks and that was when it was basically not anywhere in stores. I'll probably pick this one up either January or late december depending on how I'm feeling but realistically waiting isn't gonna cause too much of an issue.
>>97075047Nobody wants to join your raiding discord
Man 40k is way bigger around me compared to aos. But I just can't get into it. Sci Fi just doesn't scratch the itch fantasy does but damn if I don't enjoy the odd votann model. Ove really only played spearhead and a bit of the full game but how does 40k compare? Honestly doesn't look as fun as aos most of the time. Although all the terrain is dope
>>97075169AoS and 40k are very similar this edition and the game designers are trying to make AoS more like 40k. If you don’t like the gameplay of 40k look at other wargames. If you like 40k, 4th edition AoS may be for you.
>>97075169Keep playing spearhead. 40k is worse and full aos is worse than spearhead. You're playing the most fun ruleset gw makes rn
>>97074269Availability and delivery to your local store for free, which reflects it as a sale for them to GW
>>97073097Just don't read BL at all, it's clearly not for you and it's a cuck mentality to constantly try to rationalise otherwise begging anons for approval
>>97074269If you're buying a kit with known qc issues you can buy them and keep returning them until you get a nice one at a gw store
>>97075411There is no such kit though.
I think I’d buy into idoneth if they had sea elemental slimes. Not a perfect 1-1 analogue that high elves had in tww, but something more like what the incarnate is. Adapt some skulls, maybe some seawater foliage, maybe add a character that has some fucking hair that’s basically a sentient elemental with some drycha tier cleavage.
>>97075267>>97075305Good to know. The marine wanking is probably my biggest turn off for the setting. Space marines are dope but holy fuck let others breath a bit. I'm glad they sort of pulled away from stormcast 24/7 even though they are still over used a bit at least it feels like others exist.
Speaking of Stormcast, we need more Stormcast.
What are the top 3 strongest Spearheads?
>>97075528I think the maggotkin one and sylvaneth were strong.
>>97075538The new Maggotkin one will suck extra hard to compensate.
>>97075577I don’t get the hate. I mean sure, yeah it doesn’t have any of the new stuff. But this looks like an annoying army for the other to face. Magic, swarms, skirmishes, and a beast of nurgle. All with a pretty discount.
>>97075591>I don’t get the hate.Because it's a bunch of nurglings with a shitty warcry band. Look at the IDK one or the Vampire one or any, really. This one is just bad. No one wants to play 6 Nurglings and a Warcy band.
>>97075605That’s like the only form of ranged in maggotkins range. They’re also good for spreading disease points in a non committal fashion. I don’t even remember what the movement is for nurglings, but rotmire can also move up by 5” which is more than what other infantry in the army can sadly say. They have a role in the box, and I like it overall as a kind of “punch up” kind of deal. Reminds me of genestealer cults really.
>>97075619For one we don't know how the new Maggotkin book is going to change it and even if it's strong it's a very uninteresting box and a horrible one to start an army outside of Spearhead.
>>97075538>>97075528I also heard the sylvaneth one was very strong with its strike and fade rules. It has recursion and healing with its support hero, a big monster with the tree lord, good all around movement, and ranged power with kurnothi hunters. Chaos warriors were also very strong. The knights would steamroll anything they charged with 2 rend plus the whole army got eye of the gods on top of strong saves and power. The chariot with its massive fucking base would block a ton of stuff. The nerfed it by making the knights come in on turn 2 or 3 but it’s arguably a buff. People have also been saying the OG BoK vanguard is really strong. Mighty skull crushers have 2+ saves. Reinforcements in the bloodreavers and blood warriors being strong brawlers. But I’ve personally never seen it in action. GSG was S+ tier for a while too mostly because trogs were super super tanky while the stabbas could return models every turn. The squig riders could hop around the board for objectives too. I personally have the Nurgle one but I suck so I had very one sided games most of the time. Your hero is pretty weak and he needs to sit behind your blightkings or plague bearers. The “reliable” (you need to roll for it ofc) combo is to desecrate an obj with your hero to give your guys in it a defensive buff, sit your blightkings on it and watch them never die. Your demons secure another obj and your first fly rider goes around securing more obj or harassing their backline. If your opponent s take the bait then they’re endlessly engaged with your kings while you amass disease points. You want to hold out until turn 3 for the rest of your units to arrive.Disease points make a difference since sometimes you just really really need that extra point or two of damage to finish off a slippery unit or high armor unit with the mortals. Give your demons +1 attacks for a total of 10, plus your blightkings’ 4 attacks each. 30 attacks with a disease point for each crit.
>>97075635>horrible start outside of spearheadNTA but I'm starting to appreciate the old vanguard boxes. If the old gitz box goes OOP and you want to start a gitz army you're stuck with a box of wolf riders. Same for khorne mortals. If GW keeps all of them in production, though not likely, it will actually be a good thing >>97075591>I don’t get the hateIt doesn’t come with many models or points and we were spoiled by the old vanguards. Those felt like a “start here” box and these new boxes feel more like a second purchase for an army you’re already committed to. You could buy two of the older boxes for a nice discount but idk how many anons want two rotmire creed which already came in the last Christmas box or two claws of karanak.>>97075635i hope they get a new army box with most of the new units and it's not super overpriced like Darkwater will be. I hope I'm overestimating the popularity of Nurgle and they go for much cheaper in the future like Darkoath and gitmob are now.
>>97075413There are lots. Anything in resin if it has even slight bubbling you can just hand it back to the guy and he'll order another one for you. Same thing with moulds with really bad mouldlines. If they're so bad that there is flashing then they'll swap it out for you. Also if your box comes and there's a piece bent or broken on the box you can hand it back to them and they'll give you a new one.
>>97075710They might not get an army box. Some anon said a while ago that when they show the battletome right away there's no army set.As for Spearheads, the recent ones are getting worse and worse in terms of models.
>>97075726Not always, the Tomb World box for Kill Team had a lot of problems like destroyed books, broken sprues, missing sprues etc. and they said to everyone to fuck off no refunds or exchanges.
>>97075474This but they should be slime bunnygirls
>>97075735Source? I heard absolutely nothing about that and it seems like a fabrication
>>97075740>Source?Multiple reddit posts. In most cases GW told people to buy it again when it's all released separately.
>>97075740>>97075759
>>97075729The new kharadron one being such a downgrade in valsue really sucks, and it basically being the start collecting box of a few years ago with the leader swapped, except double the price, is the cherry on top. The ogre one I also remember being shit compared to the old one.It's not all bad though, the new idoneth spearhead is great. But it's definitely an outlier.
>>97075786Some are great but some are absolute trash it's weird. Like the Soulblight one is fantastic. All new skeletons besides The Ancient One or the IDK Spearhead but then we get the Nurgle one or the shitty Khorne one or yeah the Ogre one. Oh and OBR actually have still two to choose from. Weird.
>>97075759>>97075766Where's the bit saying gw voided all refunds
>>97075474I want slimes and oozes in general.
>>97075820He made it up to make his point seem more valid
>>97075853
>>97075820>>97075852From what I know they refused replacements.
>>97075474proxies for some regiment of renown?
>>97075853What's the point of extending the art to the left with random grey nothing?
Would an older cities of sigmar spearhead (the one before the current fusil platoon one) plus a CoS battleforce founding foray be a good way to start CoS?
>>97075912I would honestly wait until the new stuff drops, apparently we get foot Knights etc.
>>97075908So plain white text can be superimposed on it.
Someone toss me the audiobook for 'Abraxia: Spear of the Everchosen' plz and thank you
>>97075912yes. It's a bit of everyting with seemingly no overlap aside from the caveliers. Even then you get a marshall to lead the 10 of them. I think you'd need more steelhelms though.
>>97075963I have plenty of old high elf spearmen to use as supplementary CoS regiments.
>>97072327Somebody beat me to it fuckOh well
Confess.
This is how you use the new guys. Mulgoth as well.
>>97076117confess to what?
>>97076132lame, they should be an actual unit with its own rules
>>97076132I'm not sure they will properly stand out next to the rotswords.
Man the secondhand market for aos has some bullshit on sale. Came across the old warrior starter box from 3rd (10 kb vs 5 stormies + a hero each) for 25 euros, pretty good. I look a bit closer and the guy is only selling the fucking "here's how to paint and play with your minis" book that comes with the box? Also the upcharge thst people want on even the most shittily painted minis you've ever seen in your life is hilarious. 2x to 3x msrp for throwing a basecoat on the fucking things. What? Who buys this?
>>97076139They should do another run of Inferno.
>>97076160They are bigger and on bigger bases.
>>97076183first they should igve us a new edition of warcry and finally turn it in to fantasy necromunda.
>>97076190necromunda is good because it's managed by fw
>>97076183BL seems rather dead these days and will only do the bare minimum outside of HH books
>>97076190>fantasy necromundaFor that to become a thing, I think the main hurdle to overcome is getting the Specialist Design Studio to take ownership of the idea. But they've already got Necromunda so they might not care about making a second Necromunda. And if they did, I think it'd be less of a reach for them to make it set in TOW, since they're already developing that game.
>>97076190isn't fantasy necromunda just mordheim?
>>97076132The new campaign book has custom unit rules
armies for this feel?
>>97076286It seems like idoneth deepkin, unfortunately
>>97076286Idoneth Deepkin
Umbraneth when
>>97076337>>97076338you could presumably make a deepkin army using harlequin models, just clip off a few scifi bits and the basic harlequin guys are pretty much fantasy models. you'd just have to avoid the jetbikes......or dont? i mean kharadron fly in balloon steam powered battleshipaircraftjetboats and wild machine guns, could presumably just have some kind of aether crystal powered elven speeders or some shit
>>970763435th edition, surely
>>97076343Probably 5th edition like >>97076361 said.Also whats the sauce for that futa kino, reverse search gives nothing.
>>97076417secunduspublius
>>97076361I think 5th is pretty likely all jokes aside.We're actually getting rumourmongers to talk about malerion for the first time in a decade.
>>97076463they had to take an edition to address dwarves because they hadnt done anything with any of the dwarves in 10 years. so KO got an update, chorfs returned, and the edition will end with the new fyreslayers/dispossessed soup tome. once thats out of the way, that clears the schedule for more elvish nonsense
A third painting showcase has hit the community site. Some really nice ones in there.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fuqaqd8m/the-wider-warhammer-community-pledge-themselves-to-gelgus-pust-and-his-followers-in-a-painting-showcase/
>>97076491Decet, but a lot of them are kinda boring. I prefare when people get more creative with the paint sheme than "green nurgle"
>>97076505Vincent Knotley has your back.
>>97076491Decently close to the scheme I plan on doing, just uh.... Mine will be nowhere near as nice looking.
>>97076505>>97076529On that note, I hope some of the groups from the fluff get their own paint scheme. It'd be nice to see Gutrot's Drowned Men painted differently from Festus' Filthbringers.
>>97076547It'd be pretty fucking nice if buying Darkwater gave you a free code for the nurgle book... I know it won't but those books being 60 bucks fucking sucks. (Mostly for purposes of the app letting me actually have shit, I like new recruit but the app is pretty slick)
>>97076521Those are fun
>>97076547Drowned Men didn't get a sheme in 1e tome? Those early books were 50% just paint shemes
I know the BT is smallest of the greater daemons but damn, Skalok is bloody humongous.
Anyone got a scan of Spitewood's rulebook they can toss my way?
>>97076568what base size would that even be? Is that like Tamurkhan sized or something?
>>97076521I do like the orange rust idea
>>97076566Kinda but not quite. The subfactions' appearance was described in text but got no models painted up to showcase them.
Also a side note since I have the book up: the graphic design here is an awfully inefficient use of page space in terms of presenting the reader with written information, but I kinda love it anyway.
I don't know why but Kruleboyz gave me major Hobbit vibes and remind me really strong of the Hunter Orcs/Gundabad Orcs from those films.Not sure what it is that does that but it's probably why I love 'em and can't wait to get started on their Spearhead.
AoS Catgirl faction when?
>>97076623early aos had lots of those, I guess to pad out the tomes since it seems nobody really knew what the fuck they were doing in the first few months of 1st edition. Kharadron also have a bunch of these text circle thingies.>>97076699enjoy em buddy
>>97076699Warhammer Orcs are pretty consistent proportionally and in minor details because Nelson is responsible for like 90% of them and it's only been minor changes KB are a drastic departure from that and your first frame of reference for more humanly proportioned orcs is howe and weta workshop stuff
>>97076724This actually makes a lot of sense...huh....
>>97076708>AoS Catgirl faction when?I already have to hear the runoff dredge from the implication for 40k. I can only pray AOS stays away from that type of shit.
>>97076699Murknob's hace is basically the same as Azog's
>the year is 2026>DoT just got their new battletome>the Mindstealer Sphiranx still isn't in it
>>97076699>i DoN't KnOw>NoT sUrE wHaT
>>97076755When's STD gonna let us run greater daemons with Be'lakor again! (and by us I mean me)
>>97076764I hope KB lean more into beast taming in the future. The breakboss is actuall pretty cool. They haven't gotten an actual new model in ages. Hobgrots dont count those are hideous
>>97076764Last one is kinda retarded, since you compare melees to archers
>>97076764MESBG has such kino but I'm not touching that 20mm shit with a ten foot pole. GW were jewing with that attempt to prevent cross game proxies
>>97076772I think his AoR allows you to include the Skarbrand RoR. The AoR lists tend to specify if RoR inclusions are disallowed, so conversely it should be legal in the case of LotFP. I expect other monogod tomes will add RoR rules for Shalaxi, Kairos, and Rotigus. So that's something, I guess. Hardly ideal, obviously.
>>97076764getting the legend of zelda twilight princess vibes from these
>>97076814Maybe once the full tomes are out they'll make it a special army or something. Would be interesting to have them all have some weird downside for a RoR or AOR. It would be nice to just have like, Bel'akor and all the daemons. (There is no universe that's balanced decently)
>>97076809IIRC the scale not matching the WHFB standard was actually a mandate from WB.
>>97076764the chains in the troll's eyelids look like it would hurt him a lot :(
>>97076808You're the retard who can't see the unit is a mix of bows, swords and two-handed weapons since it's showcasing the options that come in the box dipshit fucking cunt.
>>97076755The funny thing about this is that I see a lot of Tzeentch players clamoring for the Sphiranx, and I see pretty much zero StD players who use/appreciate the Sphiranx. It's literally just in the wrong army; DoT want it so badly and StD players don't give a fuck about it. It's insane.
What an outrage!https://www.ft.com/content/e11e5548-e0a7-4b00-bacf-9a3c7769f417
>>97076878We are heading for the shitter so fast brosPrice Hikes FOMO with rotation rules, miniatures, etc
Does anyone here have any strong opinions on spiderfang? I'm effectively trading 80 bucks of models for 2 arachnaroks and like 20 of those spider riders. My gits list is already a complete shit show with 3-4 mangler squigs, would adding some more centerpieces make it any worse?
>>97076901jokes aside it's a decently interesting read if you're interested in an outsider's perspective on gw's business. Not the most insightful thing ever, but still.
>>97076917Not really, they didn't even touch licensing or the reality of their market position representing a stranglehold that feeds itself.GW have no competitors and that has only snowballed over time. Last quarter was the highest ever because of licensing for Space Marines 2.
>>97076914gw will cease supporting them
>>97076928Yeah probably but for this given moment how are they? Worst case scenario I'll just use them for a counts as some other bullshit for something else.
>>97076914iirc the only positive is the shaman Arachnarok if you need durability but it's 1 cast so
>>97076940You'd figure for a fucker on a base that big it'd have a bit more oomph but GW tends to do this shit with older models.
>>97076952Buddy you ought to see how shit the arachnarok is in TOW if you think that's bad
>>97076958oh god what did they do with it...? Like 40k ork shooting, shitty melee, and like no defense?
>>97076878Is it just me or does the lighting of these models look kinda odd
>>97076992yeah they look like its under some shitty filter from the mid 2000s
>>97076845No, Priestley said they were made smaller to cut down on production costs given how much metal and resin was used (because the original license was 8% royalties or something)
>>97076992It's shot in a wargaming cafe supposedly so I assume they just use some shitty lighting or something
I hope they show off the pity sylvaneth hero soon
>>97076967It's an overall underwhelming mount (weak, frail) that for no understandable reason costs a whopping 310 points (not counting the cost of the rider)As a comparison, the wyvern, which is the best mount in O&G and turns a blorc boss into a killing machine, costs a mere 130 points.
>>97077061>whopping 310 pointsHow the fuck is it cheaper in AOS than it is in Fantasy...? I was shocked when I saw all the spiders in this were around 200ish points for a 160mm base model. (Makes more sense with 16 health, 4+ save no fucking ward I guess) I don't even hate the profile, I do like using big centerpiece monsters (double terrorgheists for FEC alongside a gargant and Ush is my go to list)
>>97077061are dragons as big of a problem in tow as people make it out to be?
>>97077076Not really. They got nerfed in a couple of ways a few months ago.
>>97077071Afterthought rules with points adjustments
Does anyone have the updated version of the Champions of Chaos book? The version from the initial release is chock-full of errors.
>>97076992I think it's oranged in photoshop
>>97077310That's a very big halberd.
>>97077076They went from meta defining to merely 'very strong.'When they only thing stopping them from raping essentially any unit is using the stupid jank challenge system to sacrifice a unit champion to win.... It's a fucked system.But ToW isn't a well designed game (it's GW after all) so be that as it may
>>97076992So Boarboy heads don't fit Ardboyz ?
>>97076878That article was pointless.
If you were to be cursed in your mortal life, and then be reincarnated as a stormcast, does that curse still stick with you?
>>97077388it depends on whether it makes for a better story or not
>>97077390this>Curse of shitting yourselfall gone>Tragic blood hunger curseha ha blood angel, ship it
were eternal guard on 25s in aos
>>97077509https://web.archive.org/web/20190721125141/https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Eternal-GuardLooks like it
Anyone found a pdf of the Sand and Bone rulebook? I haven't :(
>>97077509A fellow based af Wanderere/Kurnothi enjoyer?!
>>97077076On launch only a dragon could kill a dragon. All the other units just looked at 2 dragons hitting eachother and the winning dragon won the game
>>97077542Wood elf / wanderer art is so cool but their models all look like complete dorks. Maybe the wild riders are the only exception. A shame.
>>97077568call me gay but I dont really like how that dude seems to be wearing a skirt and is showing off his thigh
>>97076755So, which factions are going to be the unfortunate ones to get a book at the end of 3 year cycle ?
>>97077719One of the ones getting a big release probably since that softens the blow a bit. They might not do indexes again though so who knows.
>>97077722If they're going to do a major overhaul of rules just to push 5th ed, indexes will most likely be published again
>>97077719>>97077722Rumour is fyrselayers/khazalid holds will be the final tome of the edition.I feel like they probably won't change the core of the game all that much, the core rules of 4th seem to be well liked. It's just all the flavour and choice being sucked out of the game that people takr issue with.
>>97077738the preview show had fyreslayers after maggotkin though
>>97077741Did they speak to you to? the voices....
>>97077741Are you referring to the pseudo rumour engine thingy? Could be, but I think it make more sense for the big dorf releases to be spread out somewhat anyway. Assuming nurgle comes out in january, we're looking at march or april for our next big wave probably. Let's say CoS because we just got like a million leaks. Then summer is 40k and some minor pity hero releases, with probably ogres in autumn. Some more pity releases, and then khazalid to close out the edition and lead is into 5th featuring thunderstrike sacrosanct vs vampire coast
>>97077573Male Thigh Meat (<3) is something we need more of
>>97077573You could call it a pelvic curtain if going by booru terminology.Certainly not something I wanna see on a dude.
>>97077821Brother please keep this shit in /twg/ or wherever the fuck
i wouldnt be surprised if Belakor has the soul of Tarion Arlor now and is gonna try to break Neave with it.
>>97077821>Certainly not something I wanna see on a dude.COWARD!
>>97077568>but their models all look like complete dorks.Meh, I disagree. However I will say I've fucking adored every single Kurnothi model we've ever got in AoS except for the newest one in Derpwater. He's just shite looking lolI seriously can't wait to see what their army looks like, I default to Wood Elves in any game I play so unless they seriously fuck them up I'll end up playing 'em.
>>9707750920x20mm bases up until 8th edition25x25mm bases now in tow25mm round in aos
>>970777414th ed release taught me that if you're faction isn't selling, you'll get shafted regardless if you're new or ported from previous wargame
>>97077863cities don't sell and yet they're getting a huge wave
>>97077509I'm legit mad GW started using 28.5 mm bases for models outside of warcry
>>97077842To each their own of course, just felt like they were a bit of letdown. I feel like wood elves are an army where you should commit to freakshit, so maybe I'm just unfairly comparing them to sylvaneth.As for kurnothi, I wasn't a fan of the original warband, especially the red mohawk guys just looked like shit. The second all centaur one is cool as fuck though. The darkwater guy I actually like quite a bit, his feather crest is fun to me.
>>97077867Cities don't sell on the same level fyreslayers do
>>97077821More of this, except replace the high elf with me
>>97070886They're pretty much doing that with the Destruction factions atm, especially with the ogre leaks.
>>97077867>>97077878Cities seem like a mid tier popularity army to me anecdotally.The ones I can definitely say are in the bottom are idk, fyreslayers, tzeentch, slaanesh, dok. Maybe sons of behemat too but they make up for it by having a lot of gargants in other armies that.
>>97078022gargants aren't a real army, lets be honest here
>>97078028I mean yeah they're 2 kits and an upgrade sprue, but none of the SoB players I've met seemed to mind much. Idk it's nice that you can run these big mercenary units as one army if you want to.
>>97072589I'm confused what do Helsmiths of Hashut have to do with Europe being controlled or not controlled by Jews because surely all the other products GW have ever made would also have been made by being controlled by the Jews.
>>97076117I never actually rebased my guys to circles from fantasy, I don't even have an excuse that I do it so I can also play them in old world as I've got no interest in doing it I'm just that lazy.
>>97078054What army, out of interest?
>>97078022Tzeentch was fun to play in 3rd but is too tricky for 4th edAlso chaos trim filters a lot of beginner painters. I'm still putting away all the tzaangors I need to finish because trim kills me inside
>>97078044>Idk it's nice that you can run these big mercenary units as one army if you want to.ogres as an army were born in the same identical way pretending they're an independent army was a mistake
>>97078124>GW adds a bunch of RoR bands, some available to everyone, others limited to specific grand alliances and a few are special (e.g. fec RoR for chaos)>not a single ogre RoR
>>97078197
>>97078092Ogres mainly so I don't even have the excuse that I've got loads of models to do.
>>97078181ror are to sell new models, ogres are old modelsexpect a ror for their new female maneater character when that comes out
