>people here accuse pic related of being “woke”>start reading it myself>the tcho tchos are portrayed as an innately evil race of people who uses social activist groups to hide their innate racial evilness from the publicWhat the actual fuck? How did they get away with this?
>>97073093>people here accuse pic related of being “woke”i dont see people accusing DG as a whole as being woke (well, 2d edition is kinda tinged by it), most of the woke comes from God's Teeth (a campaign) and the general wokeness of the current publisher, Arc Dream.
>>97073093>Giving fuck about gay-ass non-problem of "woke agenda">Giving fuck about opinions of others, and especially people from outside your table>Obsessing over people "getting away" with nothing in particular, because you read conspiracies in fucking everythingHow is the life of a low-IQ person, OP?
>>97074557God's Teeth is extremely overrated. It wouldn't be nearly as lauded if not for the woke elements.
>>97075943You’ve been saying this for a decade and nobody is listening.
>>97074557No, people have been complaining about DG being woke since the handlers book came out.
>>97073093Because theyre based off racist Lovecraftian characters and having a homogeneous cultural group of people using identity politics to mask their darker occult doings is a perfect way to handle it."They're cannibals and worship an outer god!""Omg you are sooo racist!"
>>97075943>he says, while giving a fuck about someone saying something about whatever the fuckMaybe you should stop caring if it is so trivial.
>>97073093the people of innsmouth are portrayed as an innately evil race of fish-people who use blue-collar insularism to hide their innate racial evilness from the public.>omg such classism!>omg such racism!face it, it only bothers you because that fictional tcho-tcho race derive from asia.
>entire dated sperg section on Trump, even in the later reprints released after his first term>nearly Delta Green's entire history during the FUCKING COLD WAR is about how they fought the heckin super nazis >Clearly written by no-guns euro people, not to mention taking on lovecraft's work with the most reddit nihilist rhetoric you can imagine I couldn't get into it after seeing that in the PDF I found at sea. You can like it despite its flaws though anon, and don't need to deny them with gay reaches.
>>97078060The Cold War complaint is rendered moot by Fall of Delta Green, which is set in the Vietnam War.
>>97074557>i dont see people accusing DG as a whole as being wokeAside from the fact that everyone who worked and works on it is fanatically woke, even by other wokie standards. Dennis Detwiler is a legit "Drumpfler is putting all nonwhite people into death camps as we speak" schizo.
The funniest part is one of the writers/artists moved to Canada and spends jeff teidrich levels of time on bluesky sperging about US politics and trump. like, dozens of posts per day. he loves to call for an armed insurrection while his bitchass defected and goes to "llama therapy". I love it.
>>97078133>this is what the bull sees when he looks over to the corner of the room
>>97073093"Woke" is the new satanic.The conservatives will ALWAYS be attacking tabletop, for any reason they can. They have never stopped for the last 50 years.
>>97078091>DUDE! Just buy the completely different game for the cold war history beyond fighting nazis! It also stops after vietnam, just like the actual cold war!
>>97078156>"Conservative" is the new satanic.FTFY.
>>97078221>can't even no-u rightWhat a sad sight.
>>97078156It's always the way.I'm not sure why conservatives are dead set to bitch about how tabletop is evil.
>>97078156There are PLENTY of left-leaning people who are critical of wokeness and identity politics. Especially people more focused on class issues (that issue that actually effects everyone). It's performative and divisive. Put a pride flag on a Raytheon missile and let a black woman shoot it and suddenly its ok! 'cause thats inclusive and important y'all. say it louder for the ppl in the back! uwuYou've just let braindead liberals convince you that criticizing it means you're some right wing MAGA retard.
>>97078250>you were BRAINWASHED!No, I've just been alive nearly fifty years and have at no point seen conservatives EVER stop calling tabletop evil.
>>97078263No one said you were brainwashed. I said you're a gullible retard who fell for the culture war.
>>97078281No, I simply lived through multiple decades of conservatives attempting, through law, force, and social shaming, to destroy tabletop. Usually dungeons and dragons specifically, thank goodness, but it's still absolutely a pattern that you have to be incredibly dishonest to ignore.
>>97078304You absolute retard. The "satanic panic D&D is evil" is a fully religious fundamentalists idea. And do you really think you're going to meet a liberal fundamentalist? So of COURSE every "D&D IS SATAN" claim you hear is from a fundamentalist's voice. cause they're gonna vote conservative.The other vast majority of average conservatives know its a fuckin' elf game. they don't give a single fuck about your dragon books.
>>97078369There are way fewer faggots than liberals, yet liberals have to deal with all the faggot problems.Similarly, conservatives have to deal with all the bible thumping moron problems. As the bible thumpers are fucking conservatives.
>>97078369>majority of average conservatives know it's a fucking elf gameWrong, they believe their fundie friends because why would they ever willingly admit to associating with something satanic? That could get them badwrong points in their little social circle when it isn't there turn to be torn down.
>>97078385lol, brother you need to logoff and go outside of your isolated basement.
>>97078385typical shitlib absolutism logic
>>97078060What are you talking about anon? Karotechia gets like largely wiped out in the early 50s and Delta Green spend the rest of the cold war doing shit in South America and Asia until they go full cowboys.
>>97078508And even after Delta Green gets wiped out, Majestic didn't care about Cold War shit, just Weird Science.
>>97078094You’re gonna get mad at the liberal guy who flips your burgers now as well? If their ideology doesn’t negatively influence their work, it makes no difference.And in DG’s case, it almost never does. Theres God’s Teeth but it’s honestly not that bad. >>97078156There are moral panics on both sides right now, with the progressive definitely being the worse out of the two. Which doesn’t mean that conservatives don’t do this shit.
The real problem with Delta Green is this: They took real-world conspiracies and added a Lovecraftian twist to them. Now they just sprinkle in culture issues and tack on Nyarlathotep or whoever.90s Era Antagonists:>Mi-go using Gray aliens as puppets>MJ-12 trading American people for alien tech>Nazi wizards in hiding fucking w/ cannibalism>90s cocaine mob cultist raversModern era:>Racist farmers who beat their wives>New age genetic baby breeders on a boat>Incels who met Da Yella Kang onlineAnd now with Caleb's we get>A literal rape monster>Russian pedos and animals>Racist Cop Gangs>Racist weed farmers strain>Tech Bro Evil Guy App
>>97078833I don't mind if the writers are moral panicking and doing their thing because of that.I greatly mind if someone else is moral panicking and forcing the writers to change.
>>97075943the expression is "giving A fuck", sir.
>>97078872It's almost like the real life conspiracies we see in current year put anything people in the 90s could dream up to shame.
>>97078872The Russian Pedos were from the original game.
>>97078928Explains why the ruskies deny it so hard.
>>97078833>And in DG’s case, it almost never doesExcept their stated goal IS to make their game in line with their ideology. I don't care if the guy flipping my burgers is a marxist who watches an Indian rail his wife every night. When he hands me my burger and includes a pamphlet about the merits of cuckolding, then we have a problem.>>97078872>They took real-world conspiracies and added a Lovecraftian twist to themThat's a problem with Lovecraft settings to begin with imo.>there's this weird creepy cult/thing going on AND IT'S ACTUALLY A FRONT FOR TENTACLES OOOHHH NOOOO MI-GO CTHULHU NIGHTGAUNTS NYLAR OH NO TENTACLES!!!It's beyond predictable.
>>97078903Not even fucking close. They only switched to modern conspiracy to distance themselves from X-Files comparisons and hop on the grimdark fad. The new shit is DULL, and does it like a quarter as well or interesting as something like "The Department of Truth" does.>>97078928Cause they're a real fundamentalist sect.
Can I get that image of Dennis being an AI art hypocrite
>>97078968>I don't care if the guy flipping my burgers is a marxist who watches an Indian rail his wife every night. When he hands me my burger and includes a pamphlet about the merits of cuckolding, then we have a problem.I think this shit says a lot more about your fantasies than it does the dude flipping the burger or the Delta Green crew.
>>97073093>What the actual fuck? How did they get away with this?Because the rest of the setting flagrantly telegraphs how EVUL the Nazis and KKK were/are. I mean, you'd think people who care so much about racial purity would balk at the idea of miscegenating with alien fishpeople but apparently not. At least it never went full retard like SCP Foundation lore, where HP Lovecraft briefly assumed leadership of a white supremacist cult for some inexplicable reason. Reminder: Lovecraft married a Jewess in 1924.
>>97079692>I mean, you'd think people who care so much about racial purity would balk at the idea of miscegenating with alien fishpeople but apparently not.To libtards, Nazis are evil because they dislike Communists, brown people, and Jews, not because of some specific NSDAP policy plank.
>>97079837Actually it's probably all the killing.
>>97073093Have you read the book with the shub niggurath tranny baby born with a 12 inch rock hard penis ready to bang its mom that was promptly murdered by the doctor that delivered it?
Fwiw, aren't the Tcho Tchos actually just humanoid meat puppets cloned by the Migo rather than a proper ethnic group? Or am I thinking of something else?
>>97079692>the nazis irl never would have made deals with fish people!>the nazis irl tried to summon demons and make pacts with witches
>>97079892Yes I'm sure you believe whatever bullshit Rabbi Schlomo Schekelbergstein wrote in your history books, where Hitler was simultaneously a gay jewish atheist that worshipped satan and summong beelzebub.
>>97079903Yes yes, reality doesn't exist and it's all a lie and earth was made three days ago.
>>97079903>larps as a nazi>doesnt even know himmler's obsession with being a mystic
>>97079863Ah yes, the it must have been the killing. I mean, the Allies only burned Tokyo to the ground and nuked two cities killing countless women and children but it must have been the killing.>>97079924Your entire worldview is propaganda.>>97079926This just in: Hitler and Himmler are two different people.
>>97079863The 300k prisoners out East? Those mostly died of typhus or starvation from the Allies cutting supply lines
>>97079938First of all it was 11 million and second they were killed in gas chamber
>>97079929Killing japanese civilians by the millions is morally superior to risking american lives
>>97079955Not according to the new plaque at Auschwitz, because apparently only the Jews that died there were people. All those goyim that died there don't count.>>97079957>Killing japanese civilians by the millions is morally superior to risking american livesAnd yet killing Vietnamese civilians by the millions was not morally superior to risking american lives some 20 years later. Funny how that works, innit?
I for one just want someone to tell me why there was a rollercoaster there
>>97079929Yeah, it was probably the killing.
>>97079966Auschwitz is one death camp out of many and Jews were almost exclusively killed there, yes.>And yet killing Vietnamese civilians by the millions was not morally superior to risking american lives some 20 years later.It was actually, the only reason we didn't nuke Vietnam was because of the Soviets, though we should've anyways. We should still nuke what's left of the soviets but a few pussies are still convinced their rusted silo doors can open for whatever fucking reason
>>97079982Whatever you say, chief.
>>97079966So like, are you pretending a nuke would have solved vietnam?>>97079984Killing a bunch of civilians is something reserved for winners.
>>97079983>and Jews were almost exclusively killed therelol>>97079989>Killing a bunch of civilians is something reserved for winners.Then it was fine when the Nazis did it, because Poland lost.
>>97079992>B-but they beat polandIf they had stopped there, they would be remembered much better, yes.Instead they continued doing it until they lost, and suffered shame for it. Just like the japanese and their rapedeath camps.
>>97079929>hitler and himler are two different people!>only daddy hitler had any influence on the nazi party and was personally responsible for nazi ideology!Kek. I bet you think hitler was a good christian boy that did nothing wrong.
>>97079992>Then it was fine when the Nazis did itNo because they killed prisoners unprovoked. The Japanese got what they deserved for trying to sneak attack a country they weren't at war with and then refusing to surrender. If they didn't want to die, they should have given up.
>>97080001>If they had stopped there, they would be remembered much better, yes.Remind me how many peace offers Germany sent to Britain and France that were rejected.>>97080002Not even worth engaging with.>>97080004>No because they killed prisoners unprovokedAh yes, killing women and children in the "safety" of their own homes is so much better.
>>97080011>Ah yes, killing women and children in the "safety" of their own homesTheir homes stopped being safe when they went to war with America. Civilians are valid targets in an act of war, and Japan+Germany killed Civilians first.Hope this helps!
>>97080011>B-but they wouldn't accept peace!Perhaps they should have stopped while they were still getting concessions, or asked for a more reasonable peace deal as an already once-defeated power.
>>97080016>Their homes stopped being safe when they funded Germany's enemies. Civilians are valid targets in an act of warCool guess the Holocaust was fine.>>97080018>or asked for a more reasonable peace deallollmaoTry reading the Treaty of Versailles some time it's the opposite of reasonable.
>>97079974still waiting
>>97080030>Cool guess the Holocaust was fine.Prisoners =/= Factory workers.Germany was not at war with its own citizens. They went after Jews to direct blame away from the German government for the last 30 years of getting absolutely fucking destroyed by the more sane countries of the world.
>>97080041>Prisoners =/= Factory workers.Anon that is exactly what a forced labor camp is.>getting absolutely fucking destroyed by the more sane countries of the world.Thanks for informing me you don't know anything about WW1, why it started, or why Germany was involved.
>>97080030>But the treaty of versailles wasn't reasonable!It was absolutely reasonable- the winners were enacting their will on the losers.The losers refused this, and tried to war again despite the treaty, and were firmly trounced again. You don't get to argue from a position of strength when you are a loser.
>>97080049>The losers refused this, and tried to war again despite the treaty, and were firmly trounced againYeah we'll just ignore that whole Vichy France thing. It's inconvenient for your argument.
>>97080053It's almost as if the nazis were attempting to hold a far greater area than they could, as has been proven twice now.
>>97080046>Anon that is exactly what a forced labor camp is.So you're saying the Germans were mass murdering their (starving and sickly) forced laborers... To deprive themselves of said forced labor? Nazis really aren't smart lol>Thanks for informing me you don't know anything about WW1Do you think the Germans won WW1? Lmao
>>97080057Germany held a lot more colonies' worth of land plus the 14~% of Germany that was annexed off and given to Poland thanks to the Treaty of Versailles. So, again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>97080070>So you're saying the Germans were mass murdering their (starving and sickly) forced laborers... To deprive themselves of said forced labor?No that's what the Holocaust myth says, which I'm sure you believe vehemently. Congratulations you're a Holocaust denier now.>Do you think the Germans won WW1? LmaoNo but you apparently seem to think Germans started it, which makes you colossally retarded.
>>97080079>NoBut you literally just said that? Make up your mind. Were they killing their prisoners because they were forced laborers or were they killing their prisoners because they were evil and trying to scapegoat them?>N-No butKek, nazis suck at arguing. You just seethed because germany got their teeth kicked in during WW1 and then claimed I knew nothing about it. You're losers and always will be.
>>97080072>Germany HAD these things but failed to hold themyep, that's what I'm saying. the weak suffer.
>>97080091>Were they killing their prisoners because they were forced laborers or were they killing their prisoners because they were evil and trying to scapegoat them?Catch-22. If you don't answer "both" without a single thought toward how paradoxical it is you're a Neo-Nazi.>>97080094>the weak sufferYou say things like this but then you pretend it doesn't apply to Jews. Very Hebrew behavior my friend.
>>97080102>Catch-22. If you don't answer "both" without a single thought toward how paradoxical it is you're a Neo-Nazi.Jesus christ you're a schizo lol. They were killing them because they scapegoated Jews. As is typical with Nazis you're all mentally ill freaks with zero logic and just pure emotion.>You say things like this but then you pretend it doesn't apply to JewsDon't you people bitch and whine that Jews rule the world? LMAO
>>97079984You reap what you sow.
>>97080112>They were killing them because they scapegoated Jews.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Blood_CertificateExplain this then.
>>97080117>You reap what you sow.Correct, which is why Poland deserved everything it got. Shouldn't have annexed Prussia.
>>97080118Explain the Nazis trying to exterminate Jews? Uh... Pretty self explanatory lol.
>>97080133Sure seems interesting that a group of people trying to exterminate the Jews wrote up paperwork to exempt Jews from the extermination. Very curious, huh?
>>97080102>pretend it doesn't apply to jewsIt literally happened to jews.
>>97080142>It literally happened to jews.By your reasoning they deserved it.
>>97080137So what, are you saying the jews are weak or strong?>>97080143Again, killing civilians is a right reserved for people who win the war. If you lose, then it was terribly evil and you are punished accordingly.Are you new to how war works?
>>97080137>Sure seems interesting that a group of people trying to exterminate the Jews wrote up paperwork to exempt Jews from the extermination>German Blood Certificates were documentations that classified who was of "German or related blood"seems like they were being used to identify Jews. Not curious at all pretty natural for industrialized genocide, actually.
>>97080147He's seething that Jews avoided extermination and now Europeans are breathing their last instead.Ironically the last genetic Europeans on earth will likely be Israelis.
>>97080126lol who were the other 1% parties in 1938?
>>97080147>So what, are you saying the jews are weak or strong?I'm going to assume you quoted the wrong post because that's not entirely cogent in response to the post you quoted, but if they're the ones being locked in camps and wiped out it's pretty clear they're the weak in the process of suffering as you put it.>>97080155>seems like they were being used to identify JewsNo Anon they had gold stars for that.>>97080163I believe those would be people who simply didn't show up to vote. Weimar Germany had a flagrantly stupid policy that allowed the Chancellor to dissolve parliament practically at a whim, and beyond 1933 other parties effectively ceased to exist.
>>97080174>No Anon they had gold starsThey needed paper work to make sure who they were going to force to wear gold stars, obviously. Then later when they seized more power and had stripped most of the rights from Jewish citizens they started using tattoos and other permanent identification markings so they could begin an extermination campaign.Lost them the war though and now Germans are going extinct, heh.
>>97080189>Lost them the war though and now Germans are going extinct, heh.The entire point of the war for them is that they were in the opening stages of being rendered extinct under the Weimar puppet state and they'd rather go down fighting. I'm sure nobody told you that since they don't even tell you what books were being burned. If only you knew how painfully close we are to those same conditions.
>>97080161>and now Europeans are breathing their last instead.delusional
>>97079886I think the Tcho-Tchos used to be regular people but they got all fucked up from worshipping eldritch shit for too long. You're thinking of the Zentradi or whatever they're called in Cthulhutech.
>>97080201Anon literally every ideology has a doomsday scenario prophecy and yours is one of the most tepid.
>>97080204>Anon literally every ideology has a doomsday scenario prophecy and yours is one of the most tepidBruh I'm a Neo-Antifederalist. If I had my way the state wouldn't even get strong enough to carry out an extermination program. It just so happens that since I sympathize with the American South and other parties that go apeshit after having their rights violated by outside parties that somehow makes me a Nazi to everyone else. Continent-wide federal governments are a mistake, but somehow this is a "fascist" sentiment. Welcome to 2025.
>>9708020230%. 23%. 18%. 16%. 15%. 13%.These are the data points for a certain race's percentage of the global population over the last 80 years.:)
>>97073093>DRUNALD DRIMPF IS NOT BRIEFED ON THE HECKIN SCIENCElol
>>97080201>The entire point of the war for them is that they were in the opening stages of being rendered extinct under the Weimar puppet stateWhich was all DA JOOZ fault, so they had to extinct DA JOOZ first, and...Woops now the Jews have an ethnostate with the world's sole superpower as their ally. and the Germans are going extinct. Funny how that worked out for them, heh.
>>97073093>arc dreams publishing>not woke Official Arc Dream Reddit account by the way
>>97080174>99% voter turnout in 1938 Was voting mandatory?
>>97080228>Funny how that worked out for them, heh.It'll be even funnier when Israel becomes a Second Holocaust for its hubris, but that'll be a while yet.>>97080237Nope.
>>97080249Inshallah soon
>>97080249>Desperate wishcasting while his race goes extinctLOL
>>97080263I do not concern myself with the world population skyrocketing because A) I can't do anything about it and B) Global food infrastructure will inevitably collapse and most of them will starve.
>>97078133Where can I find about the therapy or is it a digure of speech
>>97080263You don't actually believe any of the things you're typing (after all your heckin' science says it's not happening). You're just some tranny on discord that's bored enough from having no games to troll the /teegees/
>>97080266>>97080271You don't concern yourself with anything but coping. You sit on 4chan.org to argue about your racial superiority while your race goes extinct and you do nothing about it.
>>97080277I'm mixed Irish/Shawnee Anon, both ends of my genetic heritage were genocided at least once, by Anglos in particular. But hey, keep pretending you're not drowning in propaganda and that your worldview isn't a decaying husk of post-war bullshit.
>>97080284I'd say your grandchildren will be even more mixed, but you need to make children for that to happen LOL
>>97080291Whatever helps you cope at night.
>>97080305>He says, desperately trying to cope with his race's extinctionThe future is bright, and it ain't white.
>>97080315The future is the past and the past is the future. Progress does not exist. Civilization is a repeating cycle of atrocities. See you in ten years.
>>97080319>Immediately begins schizophrenic rantingYep, run away now lol.
>>97080328You're the reason goosestepping will come back into style and I will not mourn you.
>>97078156So you admit it! Satanists WERE as common then as woke is now
>>97080333>More desperate wishcastingYou will die alone and childless, and your race will be one step closer to extinction. Goodbye :)
>>97080337Projecting is all you "people" are good for.
>>97080341Projecting is all you "people" are good for.
>>97078156Rationalize to me why it's the "woke right" angry that tabletops are being queered up and defanged.
>>97079455This the one you're talking about?
>>970759434chan is infested with inbred chuds, teenage incels and pedo nazis. Not every 4chan user, but always a 4chan user. Why? Because other platforms / communities ban or quarantine them. This is the ghetto of the internet, anon. Of course you're gonna find sewage here.
>>97079929Destroying enemy infrastructure and munitions factories isn't the same as exterminating old men, pregnant women, and children in industrialized death camps. Its a morally neutral act to destroy your enemy's cities. Its pretty evil to put them into mass graves after tagging them like cattle for orderly extermination.
>>97080030Versailles was entirely justified. Germany had every chance to bow out of the war and they continued to ramp the escalation up at every chance.
>>97080328>>97080337>says they're leaving twice >>97080348>still here lol
>>97078970Most of the new groups they added with the Labyrinth are just beyond generic and were done better by movies and other media that came before them. Like really, the group of incels are on par with the much more horrific shit. Also like holy shit, nearly everything turns out to be related to ol' Nyarl in some way. Also racist, almost every antagonist group for the past decade has been some flavor of white supremacist (even the fucking ghouls in A Good Life are white supremacists).
>>97079929“If you are going to use military force, then you ought to use overwhelming military force. Use too much and deliberately use too much; you’ll save lives, not only your own, but the enemy’s too.” - Curtis Lemay
>>97080429>Imagines things that nobody saidSomebody's mad lol.
>>97080333Last time the genetic backwash decided to goose step it wound up destroying everything they held dear and solidified the current world order you despise so much. If Hitler had been smart enough to allow fascism to be a local European problem than there would still be fascists in power, but he chose to self annihilate instead.
>>97080430Most modern Lovecraftian stories and games are all about making cults the RL groups the hard-left writers don't like, therefore letting them and a tiny audience fictionally "own the chuds"
>>97080349I think you need to take a second crack at reading that post.
>>97080414>Its pretty evil to put them into mass graves after tagging them like cattle for orderly extermination.Y'know people keep using the words "mass graves" even though there's literally no evidence of them and they can not be located.
>>97080480>solidified the current world order you despise so muchPlease. As if the Anglo-Banker Empire didn't already control most of the world.
>>97080555Wrong.
>>97080564You need to update your programmed golem responses because the New Code says the mass graves were dug up and all the bodies were cremated in '44 somehow and that's why nobody can seem to find them.
>>97080562The Gentile Uprising didn't exactly slow it down, and in fact accelerated its growth, leaving communism as the sole enemy of the world order left in a relevant position to oppose it.
>>97080460>Goodbye!>Not good day siring lmao cope
>>97080568Wrong again. Demonstrate that we don't know where the graves are.
>>97080576I know nazi IQ isn't that high, but that was a "goodbye" to what's left of your race, dumbass.
>>97080582>Demonstrate that we don't know where the graves are.Burden of proof is on the people making the claim, and the people making the claim don't have any evidence.
>>97080587You're the one making the claim there arent any. I am stating the fact that we do know. You are posing the claim that there aren't graves at the camps. So prove it.
>>97080604>You're the one making the claim there arent anyNo Anon, they're the one making the claim it happened. If it happened there would be evidence There is no evidence. I don't think you understand how logic functions, especially since you're demanding proof of a negative. You have propaganda for brains.
>>97073093Easy. They're an allegory for white people.
>>97080583>Can't even tell which poster is whichDoes explain why you can't find the exit.
>>97075943If you don't care, then leave.
>>97080612You started this by saying>people keep using the words "mass graves" even though there's literally no evidence of them and they can not be located.That's you starting it off. I was describing the difference between roasting civillians in their homes in a hostile city and exterminating people and tossing them into a mass grave. You were the one who started off on "this isnt real". Thus, you posed the first claim. Thus, you bear the burden of proof. I know youre trying to dodge it because you know youre lying, but thats OK. I can explain it to you again if you are having trouble understanding it. Or you could just show me proof that we dont know where the mass graves of this supposedly fake genocide are.
>>97080622>You were the one who started off on "this isnt real". Thus, you posed the first claim.No Anon, you claimed there were mass graves. That is the first claim. Prove it. You can't, because there is no proof, and now you're dancing around trying to find a way out of this. In theory it should be quite easy for you to prove that the mass graves existed and where they were located, if indeed they existed. However, they did not. They're just as much of a lie as Hebrew-sourced Soap.
>>97080315Yeah and why do I care about that? I have better things to worry about than "the white race." Traditional games?
>>97080646He thinks he's upsetting the chuds.
>>97080634https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mass-grave-of-holocaust-victims-unearthed-in-ukraine-1.649342https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/13/mass-grave-remains-of-8000-nazi-war-victims-found-in-polandhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8343952/
>>97080634>you claimed there were mass graves. I compared the moral weight of tagging people and exterminating them versus bombing an enemy city in a hypothetical sense. You were the one who shivered and shrieked about the hoax. Besides, when discussing facts, if you have an alternative to the mainstream opinion, you bear the burden of proof. >You can't, because there is no proofIts the most widely documented genocide in history. >and now you're dancing around trying to find a way out of this. And that dancing would come to a screeching halt if you didnt spend the last three posts trying to weasel out of actually providing evidence. Evidence which is supposedly so clear cut and available that it would likely take you very little time to find an unassailable piece of proof that I'm wrong. >In theory it should be quite easy for you to prove that the mass graves existed and where they were located, if indeed they existed.I can. Can you do the opposite?>However, they did not. Prove it. >They're just as much of a lie as Hebrew-sourced Soap.So you double up on your burden. Well done. Your next post is gonna be more worming and squirming. Why don't you show me something? Are you afraid?
>>97080656>UkraineFunny because the Holocaust By Bullets narrative doesn't line up with that.>15.8 tonnes of human ashes means that the remains of at least 8,000 people were in the mass graveOh so no bone fragments or any kind of actual testable material? How convenient.>ten sets of human skeletal remains presumptively assigned to Polish victims of the totalitarian regimes.Wow look, some actual genetic evidence. Also ten sets of remains found in a forest is a mass grave now apparently.
>>97080671Are you going to cite sources or just dismiss stuff because it doesn't "feel" right, you fucking woman? Post peer-reviewed sources or go pound sand.
>>97080662>if you have an alternative to the mainstream opinion, you bear the burden of proof.That is called an appeal to the majority and it is one of the most incredibly retarded logic fallacies in existence.>Its the most widely documented genocide in history.Nah actually that'd be the Uyghers.>>97080677>Are you going to cite sourcesLet me know when you find the other 1.59 billion corpses.
>>97080683Okay, so you are a woman. Tits or gtfo.
>>97080683>That is called an appeal to the majorityIf I told you gravity doesnt exist, would you say I have the burden of proof? >muh fallacyWhich is of course an appeal to the fallacy fallacy, which is THE most retarded fallacy in existence. >The Uyghur genocide is more documentedProve it. You've got three proofs to post anon, better get cracking on that before you keep digging yourself deeper in your efforts to run away.
>>97080707>If I told you gravity doesnt exist, would you say I have the burden of proof?The fact you're comparing this to an empirically observable phenomenon is pretty telling.>Which is of course an appeal to the fallacy fallacyNo Anon that only applies when the fallacy being invoked is being used to suppress an otherwise logically valid statement. One of the fundamental principles of classical logic is that consensus and law are not objectively logical. You're being a pseud.>Prove it.https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/01/chinas-algorithms-repression/reverse-engineering-xinjiang-police-massChina has an entire mass surveillance apparatus to record and control their genocide in Xinjiang. The Holocaust has some papers with vague euphemisms on them. Use your head.
>>97080722Tits or gtfo.
>>97079517What does it say about the Indian guy, though? Now that's the real scoop.
>>97080722>The fact you're comparing this to an empirically observable phenomenon is pretty telling.I asked you a pretty simple question anon, I expect an answer. >that only applies when the fallacy being invoked is being used to suppress an otherwise logically valid statement. Which is exactly how I used it. So it seems you were the one who committed the fallacy here. Interesting how that happens. >One of the fundamental principles of classical logic is that consensus and law are not objectively logical. Pseud cope. >You're being a pseud.Prove it. >Prove it.>https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/05/01/chinas-algorithms-repression/reverse-engineering-xinjiang-police-mass>China has an entire mass surveillance apparatus to record and control their genocide in XinjiangMost of that isnt widely available, which isnt quite the same thing that people infer when they refer to something being documented. Another semantic cope. >The Holocaust has some papers with vague euphemisms on them.And four years of video and photographic evidence as well as decades of physical evidence. Considering the scale and reach of the Final Solution, its easily the most documented and published. >Use your head.I am. You still have three proofs to provide, all I see so far are copes and semantic backpedaling. Kinda tragic if this is the best you can do. I'll ask you again to prove it.
>>97080817>I asked you a pretty simple question anon, I expect an answer.You got an answer it just wasn't the one you wanted.>Which is exactly how I used it. No Anon it wasn't. You flagrantly stated a fallacy as an objective rule, claiming that going against consensus is the only time you need proof.>Pseud cope.Aw, how cute. A parrot.>Most of that isnt widely available, which isnt quite the same thing that people infer when they refer to something being documentedHow widely available were the letters between command and SS officers that allegedly prove the Holocaust was happening?>And four years of video and photographic evidenceMy dude that Human Rights Watch article is from six years ago.>I amI am torn between doubting you and simply accepting this really is the best you can do.
>>97073093it's more like the developers are committed antiracist wokescolds and still can't help but write racism into their cosmic horror. There's a poetry to that which they (and perhaps also you, the girl reading this) cannot comprehend.
>>97078250>Especially people more focused on class issues These people do not exist. >braindead liberals You, yes all of you, are in this group.
>>97080832>My dudeI just hopped into this thread, I will read literally none of your argument or your opponent's, but you immediately lost by saying that. Your opponent could jerk off over his keyboard and press Post and your material would still be the lesser.
>>97080941>I will read literally none of your argument or your opponent'sogey
>>97080943This comment was a VAST improvement over your last attempt.
>>97078508I am going completely off of memory, but if I recall correctly the South America fuckery was vague outside of fighting the nazis and the Asia (vietnam) was extremely vague. Barely any mention of the the fuck the Soviets/Communists in general are doing, especially when it just becomes a shadow war with MJ12. I am not expecting the 90s conspiracy to purely about cold war espionage, but come on man even the modern SCP bullshit digs deeper into soviet shenanigans. >>97078872Damn that's a shame. There are so many modern theories that fit right in with what little I heard/read about the setting. >Massive underground tunnel military networks, likely also being facilities for cults and hybrids>FEMA camps, US actively preparing for the doomsday around the corner>Spirit cooking/ Elite centered cults in general >Giants and cryptozoology>False conspiracies being spread to discourage the public from doubting the official story >The modern obsession with project Blue Beam and UFOs still living on in general>Gang stalking, government training for false flag attacks >Shadow people>The whole mud flood/ancient history being a cover storyYou can go on and on but I get the feeling the devs would rather stick to bitching about "social issues" since its far more politically correct than having an adventure where you bust a cult running out of a pizza parlor in DC.
>>97080961>I am not expecting the 90s conspiracy to purely about cold war espionageYou know what'd be a fun Delta Green setting? Bosnia in 1992.
>>97080218>continent wide federal governments are a mistakeCorrect, we should only have one world government
>>97081060>Correct, we should only have one world governmentThat's even worse by an order of magnitude.
>>97081074no it isn't source: I said so. I love the antichrist and the United Nations are the only force that can herald mankind into the United Future it deserves. If this doesn't happen we're extinct in 500 years, and if we're not we'll wish we werecaptcha: 8RTNR
>>97079863Then they'd have a real gripe with ol' Stalin. Yet the silly windmill is bad and the hammer and sickle is erm complicated, you chud. Unless it's somehow worse because of the specific types of people each killed...
>>97080001So your view boils down to might makes right?
>>97081208It's not my view, it's an accurate description of what happened and why.Before any morality comes into play, who has power over the situation must be established.
>>97081205Yeah, you don't really get to kill civilians like that AND lose the war.
>>97081238If morality is relative to power, then it isn't morality, it's an excuse to be cruel.
>>97079929>This just in: Hitler and Himmler are two different people.Yeah anon, Karotechia in Delta Green lore was a Himmler project. What’s the problem here?
>>97081426All of morality is how the powerful choose to act towards the weak.If it were just an excuse to be cruel, the germans would all have been tortured to death.
>>97081477You're a sociopath.
>>97078060Agreed on most points HOWEVER no-guns people made the best gun rules in CoC-based games (lethality %). What do you say to that, huh???
>>97081528You seem to be too much of a coward to acknowledge how power works, and are doomed to forever weep, I guess.
>>97078156 I won't make the effort to quote the whole convo. Good bait.Just in case you're serious; you don't sound nearly as smart as you think you do.
>>97081559>Yer not smrtreally sending their best to the 4chan.
>>97081602>no uNice try, kid.
>>97081662Wow, you didn't even read the insult correctly.
>>97081666good bait.
>>97081705If you say so.
>>97081535No, you're just making a convenient category error to justify yourself. One does not need power to be moral. It just makes it easier to express your will. You're being disingenuous because it backs up your earlier statements, which are just an elaborate post hoc justification. According to you: It's evil when nazis killed jews because they lost and not as evil for Stalin to kill way more Russians. This is because, in your reasoning earlier, that power had an arbitrary time limit and ignoring thr many years the nazis held a whip hand over jews in Germany.
>>97081877>No, you're just making a convenient category error to justify yourself. One does not need power to be moral. It just makes it easier to express your will. You cannot be moral without expression of the will. If you have no power to enact your will, you cannot be moral. You are essentially inanimate if you have no power.And you'll note, stalin killing all those people is evil now, because they lost the cold war.
You want to know the problem I have with Jews?Picture a demon in your head. Right now.What does it look like? I'm betting it has at least some features of a goat or ram, right? Horns, hooves, maybe a whole goat's head.Do you know why you just did that?Well, the obvious answer is that that's just what demons usually look like in games and movies and stuff. But have you ever wondered why? The real reason is that ultimately, the images of demons passed down through Jewish and by extension Christian iconography were originally inspired by gods worshipped by rival tribes to the ancient Hebrews. Since a lot of them were fertility gods the people would pray to for a successful harvest, they often had the characteristics of farm animals. That's it.Not only did the Jewish people destroy them, but they made sure that their symbols would be associated with evil and anathema to the culture they had built for thousands of years to come. That's exactly what's happened to Hitler's Germany. Yes, they were violent and cruel, but millions of other regimes throughout history were just as bad. But Hitler made himself an enemy of the very people who invented the entire concept of demonization.
>>97082336When you look at other races' own lore of supernatural creatures archeologists generally agree were based on older tribes and their gods that were killed off or absorbed by other civilizations, you'll see a marked difference. Fairies can be dangerous or even outright evil, but there's always a certain reverence to them, a certain sense of guilt for the loss of natural beauty they represent. And of course, the image of the "noble savage" in the Americas. And even many Romans had similarly wistful attitudes toward the northern Europeans themselves in late antiquity.Yes, it's hypocritical and "fetishizing" and all those other had words. But it does suggest, at bottom, a certain willingness to see the good in those who are not only different but directly opposed to one's own culture that is simply not present in the Jewish people.When the Palestinians are finally extinct, how will you be allowed to remember them?
>>97082344When you're dead, how will people be allowed to remember you?
>>97073093>>the tcho tchos are portrayed as an innately evil race of people who uses social activist groups to hide their innate racial evilness from the publicThe key is that the Tcho-Tcho are similar to the Montagnards, and they were on the US side in the Vietnam War.If there is one thing that leftists of the third-world-ist type hates it is "indigenous" and/or "browncoded" who refuse to be used as cannon fodder for the Progressive March Of History(tm), and if they dare fight against it that hate becomes incandescent.According to them the mountain peoples of South Vietnam were quislings and traitors because they supported the US against good ol Uncle Ho, who was just like George Washington (but strangely George Washington didn't send out thugs to bury his political opponents alive...) and worked with SF babykillers etc.So if the CIA lets tcho-tcho into the US after the war they see it as illustrating the evil of the CIA and the evil legacy of the Vietnam War and what ever the tcho-tcho did in the US would be ironic just desserts.[As an aside, I have talked to pretty moderate US democratic socialists (somewhere around Sanders on the Left-Right scale) who was totally unhinged about "Miami Cubans". According to them if it wasn't for Miami Cubans the US wouldn't inflict dictators, terrorism, torture, etc etc on Latin America. And they thought a suitable punishment was to cancel the citizenships of all Miami Cubans and collectively deport them to Cuba "so that Fidel Castro can show them what happens to Enemies of The People!". This was numerous years ago and Castro was still alive then]
>>97080981>You know what'd be a fun Delta Green setting? Bosnia in 1992.Springtime for Ghoulkind and Mordiggan.
>>97084661kek
>>97084651The only thing leftoids hate more than rightoids are minorities or "oppressed people" who disagree with them. I've heard Marxists say things about conservative black people that would make a Klansman blush.
>>97081889You're still leaning unto the category error and just bending where you can and ignoring anything you said to contradict yourself. You said the soviets were less evil because they won. But now you admit they lost and you're still saying the nazis were worse. This is reddit nietzche. All you're doing is bending over backward to repeat the current paradigm and half assedly trying to pretend it's justified by freely and disingeneously presenting the current thing as a principle with no actual justification. Feigning independent thought by trying to justify the status quo.
>>97085234You're the only one talking about evil here anon, I'm just explaining to you how power systems work.The soviets were on the winning side of ww2, and thus become celebrated.They were on the losing side of the cold war, and the become vilified.The winner is always right, and the loser is always a villain.
>>97081244So your entire argument boils down to: If the nazis had won they'd be the good guys independent of what they actually did because you are a giant pussy that will lick the boot of whoever is currently in charge?Damn, you are pathetic.
>>97085412>said the wannabe antifayou would be a future mass grave occupant like the CNT in spain were, like 30% of the male population of the Russian countryside by the year of 1943, like the chetniks and italian syndicalists. And I'd write you died crying for your family, you bitch.
>>97085412Wait but that's unironically true
>>97085277You said >all of morality is how the strong choose to treat the weakYou also used the word villain. Either you're a believer in might makes right as the only relevant concept, which is amoral, or you're making convenient category errors to try to bolster statements you made earlier itt, which do not match what you're currently saying because you refuse to use the same logic to apply to the power the nazis had over jews due to an arbitrary time limit and still refuse to acknowledge.
>4chan argument >The nazi is the least sociopathic of the two
>>97085430What's wrong with being sad you won't see your family again if you're about to die?
>>97085505Th loser's crime is unexcusable. The winner's crime is fine. This is how history is written.>>97085412You are simply weak.
