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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Should wish cards be allowed to work in Commander?
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>>97073712
I think Commander should have a 5-10 sideboard, yes.
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I think Commander should have a 15-30 sideboard personally.
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I think Commander should have a 45-90 sideboard honestly.
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Commander has infinite sideboard in 100 card packages.
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>>97073712
>Should wish cards be allowed to work in Commander?
If you have a specific list of cards to pull from. If literally "just go find a card anywhere" then no
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>>97073712
>TQ
No. A 100 card deck should be self sufficient. Make hard cuts for hate, shitters.
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>>97073792
Well I'm using 120 so suck my dick.
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>>97073712
>Should wish cards be allowed to work in Commander?
ofc, just like how companions work right now
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I played with a shop league that unironically allowed a 15 card wishboard
Most people filled it with silver bullets, one crazy bastard played azusa 60 land ramp and ran a spawnsire of ulamog + a bunch of non-titan eldrazi (2013-2014ish)
His main deck was insane for the time so you didnt see the spawnsire win often, it was just novel and neat when it did
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>>97073799
Man I miss attractions. I wish the commanders for it didn't all suck. Myra is the only playable one and it just turns into a degenerate spellslinger deck that takes 7 hour turns and loops 5 extra turns.
I saw a guy building Deekay here. I ran that deck for sometime. Don't think I ever once won a game with it.
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>>97073788
Casual format. Already just werks that way with your whole collection.
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>>97073837
Then change the rules
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Wishes are allowed, but go into a maximum 10-card Wish Zone that's face-up, still adheres to your commander's color identity, and counts as if it's part of the 99.
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>>97073867
Was with you until the end. If I wanted a more consistent deck then I'd run a wish card so I can effectively run an under 100 card deck.
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>>97073820
Do you feel like silver bullets encouraged diversifying strategies or did it just devolve into playing the least interactable and most efficient bullshit?

Unrelated but I want to find a way to make Seismic Assault work
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>>97073872
and that's why a "wishboard" shouldn't be counted as part of your 100, like how companions aren't counted either
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>>97073867
>Wish needs to be part of the 99
So everyone is playing with 10 card wishes just to reduced the normal deck to 89 so there is less variance?
Terrible idea.
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>>97073844
Don't need to :^)
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>>97073876
>I want to find a way to make Seismic Assault work
you make it work by running the creature version of it as your commander
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>They actually walked back monster hunter
I hope they just scrap it completely and make commander decks with unique mechanics instead.
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>>97073917
I doubt that's in the contract
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>>97073917
>unique
Stop this shit. Christ.
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>>97073876
>Do you feel like
My old groups particular brand of degeneracy lead to a sort of proto cEDH where out of ~24 players no two people played the same commander but there were maybe 5-6 universal wincons people went for. Resolving tooth and nail, self mill --> victimize mike and trike, the prosh guy JUNDing out the table etc
If wish boards are available it didnt create a variation in deck uilding, it created a need to build your deck with 2-3 wishes and a sideboard that had the relevant cards to deal with
>Artifacts
>Enchantments
>Graveyards
>Swarms of small things
>A single big thing (usually Uril because fuck todd)
>Storm
>Slivers
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>>97073876
Silver bullets only work if you give people a reason to play what they are for.
The say everyone and their brother has a Krenko deck, but in the three years I've played commander, I've seen it once at the lgs.
So why would I play pic related?
I wish I could honestly, It would be fun to see more goblin decks, and goblin decks not helmed by just krenko
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>>97073932
>out of ~24 players no two people played the same commander
i'd like to remind the thread that no one else in the United States can have Jacque Le Vert as their commander I claimed him
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>>97073947
I run it in rasputin(tivadar)
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People always say "post decks" but no one ever says "post playmats"
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>>97073920
Capcom are huge whores with their IPs, they will let WOTC do anything if they think it'll make them money.
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>>97074013
That's not how contact law work.
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>>97073712
Today I am thankful for /edhg/
Post a commander that you are thankful for
Pix related
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>>97074002
I'm thinking of getting a custom playmat from yourplaymats actually, anybody have any experience with them?
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>>97074002
Here you go
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>>97074027
You don't use this
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>>97073799
Based she's so fun
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>>97074016
I forgot the part of the law that says you can only make a deal with another company one time in your life, and contracts can never be altered even if both parties agree to it. My b.
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>>97074002
For me it's cloth playmats.
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>>97074036
Well yeah, I haven't gotten one made yet. Did you read my post?
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>>97074034
Nice fellow coomette enjoyer
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>>97074049
Reading posts? What do you think I am? Gay?!
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>>97074060
>Read his post
yes
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>>97073932
>Wishboards dont encourage interesting deckbuilding, they just make the decks cost $50 more
Literally the best argument against wishboards Ive ever seen
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>>97074002
because my mat is a boring flat colour
I don't customize my mat based on my deck like I do sleeves and boxes
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>>97074059
He hasn't put anything out in the past few months that has really wowed me, unfortunately.
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>>97074084
>plain color play mat
NPC shit. This anon likely kills cats.
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>last night at LGS
>hour and a half game
>the urza player cyc rifts before he dies to another opponent
>call him a faggot
>he goes and tattles to the LGS owner
>owner comes back, tells us to chill out with the name calling
>'you guys are still on the first game?'
>guys brags he cyc rifted and thats why I was being homophobic toward him
>lgs owner gives him this look and just walks off
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>>97074078
Actually based
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>>97074093
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>>97074085
The good stuff is in the bonuses
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>>97074093
Spire playing on your way out is funny, actually.
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>>97074093
oh woops, wrong image, this look
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>>97074106
>bald guy
That's an American Hero
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>>97074100
the difference between a spite play
>I fuck up X or Y players boards or do something silly
vs
>I cyc rift, return all nonlands permanents to their hand :)

is one changes the game, or can be funny. The other is just time wasting.
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>>97074002
I posted mine awhile ago
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>>97074002
Considering how much Iron Maiden loves whoring their shit out, I am pretty surprised we didn't get any album art playmats. SLDs often get playmats.

So I just had someone on etsy do it.
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>>97074002
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>>97074078
>>97074094
>noooo don't make things legal because then i'll have to buy them
just proxy already poorfags
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>>97074139
cute
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97074148
Still haven't updated the bot, huh
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>>97074139
ribbit
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>>97073932
>People didn't actually run silver bullets in their wishboard, they just offloaded all their normal interaction to wishes
Classic EDH players.
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>>97074263
>>97073932
I'd put graveyard hate in it to be honest. At least where I play, playing out of the graveyard isn't done all that much, so it feels like its just mostly dead cards most of the time.
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why are there no hot girl mono-red commander
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>>97074325
Or Ashling if you wanna be literal
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>>97074325
Excuse me? What do you call
Diaochan
Jaxis
Rionya
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>>97074325
Plights of a gooner
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>>97074325
Okay bitch.
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>>97074325
This post was brilliant reverse psychology to piss off the mono red players and make them post hot girl red commanders

Bravo anon, well played
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>>97074325
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>>97074325
?
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>>97074379
That's not a girl dumb-dumb
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>>97074387
You didn't deny that he isn't hot though
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>>97074325
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>>97074325
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>>97074325
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>>97074325
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>>97074328
how do I build a deck around this bitch
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I gotta be that asshole.
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I hate that a 5 mana commander is unplayable in mono white
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>>97074325
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>>97074474
What commander
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>>97074474
Can't white cheat out lands though?
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>>97074474
anything is playable in the right pod
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This card was $15 two days ago what happened
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>>97074533
>New cards are extremely expensive
>PLUMMET HARD in the first couple of weeks after release
This shit always happens anon. People were buy jumbo cactuars for 100 fucking dollars before it released.
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>>97074533
It's been a full week since the set released fully. By now everyone who ordered boxes will have gotten then and opened them. Now everything they pulled should be up on the seller sites and people know just which cards are tough to find and which aren't.
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>>97074533
>just a rare
you should've learned your lesson a long time ago
rares never hold their initial price
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>>97074533
should have bought Tophs and Katara's when they were only 25 and 15 dollars each
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>>97074564
>Tophs
Ain't that the truth. Wouldn't have expected experience Toph to end up sixty.
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>>97074573
I bought an extended full art for 30
Meanwhile Katara preordered at 50 and now is falling to 35
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>>97074589
Yeah it looks like prices are still volatile as people analyze the set more. We probably have an idea of where they'll be but I wouldn't bet on anything settling just yet until another week maybe.
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>>97074533
No one is paying 15$ for that filler slop
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>>97074533
he should be only 2 mana
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>>97074059
Doesn't he do mats now? Why don't you cowards have one
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>>97074687
I'm poor
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>>97074687
He only has 2, neither are art I'm so in love with I'd buy.
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>rewatching yugioh abridges series
>episode 31
>"Jeff Goldblum? He is one of the most powerful cards in all of Duel Monsters!"
yeah... haha... how funny... Jeff Goldblum in a card game...
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>>97074733
you know what would really be funny? if that twitter freak actually finished YGOTAS
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>>97074733
amazing how accurate ygotas turned out to be
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>>97074733
Hey pal, you try churning out garbage for the fanboys to keep clicking on. You might think you're smarter than the average normie, but you're still giving me views and ad revenue
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>black player drops grey merchant for lethal from my blue braids
>be me, grixis clown
>all engine, no payoff in hand
>cast pic rel on gary, changing black to blue
>theoretical duplication and get a copy of blue gary
>successful uno reverse and win

goddamn I fucking LOVE feeding players crazy shit and stealing their wincon
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So he's best in the 99 of an artifacts deck, right?
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>>97074873
Deserved. Gary is among the lamest wincons there is. I took him out of all my black decks.
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>>97074885
This isn't a real magic card. It belongs in the trash.
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>>97074885
Probably? He's good enough on his own as well but I think the moment people see an instant win condition in the command zone you'll get too much focus.
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>>97074912
Cry more baby bitch
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>>97074933
Yeah he just doesn't tickle my fancy for the command zone anyways, at least not for mono R.
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>>97074873
This doesn't work for like three different reasons. The Braids trigger means Gary is just put on the battlefield and not cast, so you never have an opportunity to cast the duplication once the opponent chooses it. The copy would also be of the base card without the change to blue because of how layers work. And the shift wouldn't even be able to stop them from winning because the trigger for devotion to black is already on the stack.
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>>97074442
Never noticed she's part tree? Whats up with her arm
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>>97074944
ah yeah, we were pretty drunk, this was all on the stack and fudgin the rules 'he cast it'. for arguments sake, let's assume it was cast. The color was changed while the card on the stack, it resolves with new property, and copies made have the change as well. Still works yeah?
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>>97074986
She lost it during the phyrexian invasion, as a thanks for her role in the fighting the Fae of her home realm gifted her a magical wooden arm
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love this QT
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>>97074988
Breaking it down step by step.
>opponent casts Gary with enough devotion to black to kill the rest of the table
>with Gary on the stack you cast Spectral Shift, changing Black to Blue
>Gary still on the stack you cast Theoretical Duplication
>Gary resolves and enters
>trigger to drain according to devotion to blue and trigger for you to copy Gary go on the stack
>copy trigger resolves first because of APNAP
>Gary copy enters, it copies the base card without changes because layers and puts a trigger for you to drain based on devotion to black
>if opponent is still alive their trigger for Gary to drain according to devotion to blue resolves
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>>97074885
If you have 30+ artifacts you were probably going to win without him.
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>>97075032

Couldn't he just change his own Gary copy to blue? Wouldn't that resolve and drain before the original?
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>>97075070
There's no opportunity to change it on the copy before the trigger for black is already on the stack. That would only work if Shift could target triggered abilities.
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>>97075005
Nice
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>>97074934
I will
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>>97074885
I have him in the 99 of JAWS.
He also works well in the 99 of The Titanic.
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>>97074415
based lovisa enjoyer
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>>97074885
He's literally just good ramp in mono red. I'd treat the last line as flavor text and nothing more.
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>>97073820
>spawnsire of ulamog
Azusa 60 land? I thought I was crazy doing 50 lands. I'm down to 47 now.
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>>97074533
>>97074589
oh the joys of jumpstart shortprinting + UB reserved list status
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>>97075403
Not them but I've decided to collect this full set so I guess I know what cards to maybe snag duplicates of. Thankfully outside of a few cards it looks like AtLA isn't going to be massively expensive for bling printings like FF is.
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Circumcision
WU1
Instant
While this spell is on the stack, players cannot legally leave the game.
Choose a player and search that players hand, library and all other zones. If that players deck is EDHREC slop, the other players hold that player down. Cut the tip of that players dick off. By playing magic the gathering, you agree to these rules.

Flashback 2
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>>97074002
probably gonna order my next playmat in the coming days,
either the Ba Sing Se playmat or the one with the Lotus Tile map. I wish there were some cool nature playmats, but I just can't find any, shit's fucked. Nearing the point where I order a custom mat just to have some good art finally.

I am currently using a playmat with some kinda water spirit in stormy waves of water, it's quite cool. Reminds me of the horse spirits / riders in the river that saves Glorfindel & Frodo in LOTR (or Arwen and Frodo in the movie)
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>>97075455
>flashback
you can't even stop putting valueslop in your damn shitpost
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>>97074002
I don't use playmats. Just clean your fucking table.
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>>97074632
Bought this little shit for 45, thought I got hosed when it dropped to 30 but now it's a cunt hair shy of 70. Feels good considering my prerelease box and 1st place packs had 0 fucking mythics and were pure bulk.
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>>97075503
>I don't wear shoes. Just clean your fucking floors.
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>>97075514
This post was made by an American.
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>>97075514
You better not wear shoes on my floor you motherfucker.
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>>97075520
Quiet Euro. I will wear shoes everywhere.
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>>97075514
D-Do americans not clean their floors?
Anon, you know what a vacuum cleaner is, don't you?
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>>97075523
Anon if you go to a 7-11 would you want to go there barefoot? Do you think Rajeesh is mopping that floor clean every 10 minutes?
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>>97075526
He does I seen him
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>>97075526
Why would I leave my house?
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>>97075514
This but unironically
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Kinda sick of people of EDH and the people at my LGS. I think I decided to just build the most hated deck imaginable commander is child of alara but the Miku secret lair for extra salt. And the entire deck is just every single legally allowed Mass land destruction and board wipe tribal with end games in draws combos. And like 10 counter spells and 10 tutors. I proxied all 10 duals and threw in all my most expensive lands and artifacts to basically ramp into stax pieces. The deck isn't meant to win it's meant to piss people off. Basically a giant middle finger.

I'm not really planning on playing it all the time it's just a deck I have for the meme unless some LGS scumbag really gets cocky and acts like they're hot shit playing Ur Dragon good stuff pile.
List of crazy cards I bought just for this deck specifically
-Divine intervention
-Worldfire
-Acid Rain
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>>97074002
Just arrived this week as I needed a new one cause the rubber was starting to come off of the old one.
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>>97075606
>special "fuck you"-deck out of pristine spite
based. for extra salt, make up a wincon that you don't actually have in the deck, so they think you are actually doing everything for a reason. then if they get sufficiently pissed, reveal there was never a wincon.
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>>97075606
>I proxied
Fuck off
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> Do Americans really
> I heard that in America
> I went to New York once
> They really do do that
> Americans are so unevolved
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>>97075623
Cry about the proxies more I'd love to hear your argument on why reserved list $500 lands should stay $500
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>>97075606
based

>>97075623
cringe
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>>97075630
So that cedh wannabes live you don't put them in your decks
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>>97075657
So, basically "because I think these should be banned"
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>>97075657
"cedh" you mean competitive monopoly?
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I wonder what the monster hunter lair is gunna become. I was kinda interested in the nergigante, fatalis and zenogre reskins.
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Help me make some tough cuts.
>Hammerhand or Boots of Speed ?
>Run Amok or Fists of Flame (in a deck that can draw a lot of cards) ?
>Wail of War or Bile Blight?
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Has anyone else noticed ever since the bans cedh has evolved into basically 3 decks being the meta? I don't understand how cedh even thrives when it's the same exact everyone, turn 1 ramp removal removal removal interaction, and then lucky player 4 who got ignored early on ramps into his infinite combo first and wins by turn 4. I've seen cedh pods at my LGS where it's basically just 3 dudes all playing slight variations of blue farm and then that 1 najeela player. It's a sad sight.
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>>97075707
CEDH has always been a gay "who didn't get interacted with?" contest
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with Deadly Coverup, if you collect evidence, can you exile for instance a Forest from a mono-green player and then just exile all the Forests not already on the battlefield?
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>>97075747
yeah
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>>97075765
my mono-colour connosieur friend is about to experience this shit on turn 4, call that playing on curve
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>>97074533
Prices are always hyper inflated when a set first drops to take advantage of impatient retards. You should know this by now.
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>>97075514
>corn syrup infused brown hands typed this post
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>>97075707
All competitive formats devolve into the same meta decks. This is why Standard, modern, etc are so fucking gay and boring, because it's just a bunch of boring faggots autopiloting netdecks where the winner is decided solely by RNG/cheating and the only time anything interesting happens is the 1-10 day window when the meta cards get banned/rotate and the next broken deck needs to be figured out.
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>>97074325
Say hello to my hot french wife.
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>>97075606
>Anon had a meltdown over Ur-Dragon
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>>97075707
I barely see cEDH stuff, but when I do it's incredibly funny. Everybody plays four spells per turn on average, but just pay the 1 per spell for Rhystic Study. It's totally not a problem at all. Also you can a tournament run with 2 wins, 0 losses and half a dozen draws is really good. Sadly he fell out when his last match went into turns and his seed or seating wasn't high enough to advance. What a joke.
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nani
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Should my new Azula deck have yellow, pink, black or dark red sleeves?
(And which colour should her own commander sleeve have? I always give my commander their own colour so it won't get mixed in with the rest of the deck, but I want it to match)
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>>97075707
nigger we just had mono blue teferi win a >300 player tournament under a week ago with only three blue farms in top 16
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>>97076079
black double matte dragonshields for everything
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>>97076079
Assuming you're on grixis azula.
Black deck, gold commander.
Your deck is nothing without your commander, might as well wear it on your sleeve, literally.
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>>97075455
>Players can't leave the game
Excellent. Time to start bashing your head in because a judge can't give me a match loss while it's on the stack.
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>>97076319
Currently I've got Black 99, uncertain whether to go golden/silver (metallic) Azula or this sleeve I have with a light blue (kind of like her lightblue flames, see?) outside and black inside. Really cloven!
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>>97076331
I'll repeat myself. Gold.
Or are you just looking for validation of original intent to use the blue sleeve?
If your hold up is having to buy an entire box of gold sleeves just to use 1, gold isn't a bad sleeve to have around. You can use them to sleeve other "important" cards. Or ask your friends if any of them are on the fence about buying a box of gold sleeves and offer to give them a dollar for just 1. It's a lopsided deal in their favor but then you're not buying the whole box.
You could use the blue for now and then change it later if you're unsatisfied. It's just a sleeve.
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Tooth & Nail but for artifacts
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>>97076465
Tinker?
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>>97075707
>t. Dosent play or pay attention to cedh in any way
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>>97075676
Not even close to what was said anon try and stay in reality.
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>>97076497
you dont need the greentext to tell on yourself.
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>>97075707
No? Cedh meta is incresibly diverse anon. Why are the shitters in this thread obsessed with cedh. Go play it stop talking about it so much damn.
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What do I run with this guy? What synergises?
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>>97076530
You dont this card is awful.
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>>97076533
It's been kicking my ass
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>>97076537
>literally 13 mana investment before its even remotely problematic
Work on your decks buddy
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>>97076564
Please explain your math to the class, I'm curious.
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>>97076564
>red is SO slow!
work on your bait buddy
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>>97076518
>no u response
This is your brain on bracket 2
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>>97076564
You mean he isn't problematic until Turn 7?
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>>97076586
you consider a 'no u' bracket 2? holy shit no wonder your bait is so bad.
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>>97076537
>losing to nu-ashling but does nothing and costs BB more
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>>97076601
Bracket 2 is unironically the dumbest bracket. At least bracket 1 players think about and build their own shit piles
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>>97076636
What do you think B1 and B2 are? Cause I never see someone who wants to play B1.
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>>97076483
Tinker gets two artifacts?
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>>97076646
he's gunna backpedal and move that goalpost as always. lets watch.
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>>97076646
>>97076653
>halp I don't know how to use Google
1 is meme piles and bulk decks
2 is precons
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>>97076668
>shit bracket 1 decks are memes and totally intentional!
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>>97076571
Are you retarded?
>7 mana to cast
>6 more mana (that you literally cannot spend) to become actually strong
>>97076573
>>97076589
What?
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>>97076668
I said what do YOU think they are.
>Tells me to google
>Posts an outdated graphic
Comedy gold right there. B2 isn't precon level anymore, anon.
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>>97076687
the fuck you mean 'what' red and black have enough rituals and firebending bullshit to damn near match pace with greed ramp. maybe you are just slow.
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>>97076668
They released an updated version last month, though I don't think it contradicts your post
>GCs are allowed in B1 sometimes but not B2
Time to make B1 bookworm tribal so I can call Rhystic Study "highly thematic"
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>>97076685
>Nobody has ever built chair tribal or apauper deck in the history of edh
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>>97076697
>thinking tribal or pauper are bracket one
fuck dude you are retarded.
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>>97076687
It's 6 mana to cast, has haste and generates 4 mana on attack. So to have it have indestructible and flying, you only need 8 mana in total. Not that the two keywords are the important parts of the card to begin with.
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>>97076701
>tribal based on featires in the card art is super competitive bro
You sound like someone who gets mad when someone plays edgar markov
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>>97076717
HYA move those goalposts, HYA
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>>97076730
>being this retarded
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>>97076741
>doing exactly as predicted
>NO UR RETARDED
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>>97076748
>I have no argument, so I will flail aggressively
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>>97076749
>no arugment
nah bruv, you got read like a book, you are bracket 1 shitposter. byeee.
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>>97076763
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
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>>97076331
I think matching her flames is a great idea, but I'd do those for the 99 and her in black or maybe a deep red.
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For this Nissa, if the second trigger goes off and you don't have anymore elves/lands in your deck does it just fail to find or does it create some kind of retarded loop?
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30 starting life for 3-player games, y/n? And why, if you have time to explain
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>>97076884
Rules as written you must reveal your entire library to the table and then shuffle your library. It wouldn't loop by itself.
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>>97076079
>>97076264
>>97076319
>>97076331
>>97076832
I'm gonna order custom sleeves for my Azula deck once I build it. Going with this
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>>97076896
Ok so just reveal entire library, shuffle and then fail to find. Gonna run her in a mono green but theres only a few elementals
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>>97076702
Oh sorry 12 mana investment to be even a remotely threatening card.
>8 mana in total
No. You need 6 to cast, and 6 stored. That is 12 mana total. What kind of retarded Jewish math are you doing. And yes those 2 keywords are literally what would make this card even remotely playable damn tourists are dogshit at this game.
>>97076690
You fundamentally do not understand the game if youre calling this stuff ramp. Dont reply to me again shitter.
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>people onions facing over the other Wan Shi Tong
>tfw I'm going to build this obnoxious piece of shit
He who knows ten thousand things
You're gay
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>>97076899
Yeah, I'm thinking based. I'm considering getting a custom playmat or two, since the cards with the coolest art weren't featured in the official run of playmats so far as I've seen

>>97076832
I think the blue clashes too much with the spells, but fits her card very well. Wreathed in flame kinda thing?
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>>97076899
Looks really bad anon but such is to be expected from 40 year old avatarfags
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>>97076911
Cut the first sentence next time and you will slowly find yourself evolving into a pleasant person anon.
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>your deck is terrible kys
>that commander is trash, it dies to removal
>commander is a dog shit format that killed the game (I'm still posting in the commander general though)
>that art is slop (art in question is literally not AI)
>UB is slop don't even try to talk about it
>you can't proxy cards because you just can't ok????
Why is every general on this site now like this? It's every board.
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>>97076918
Joyless subhuman. I'd say kys but the sad fact is you'll probably live another 30 years
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>>97076918
bracket 1
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>>97076932
Zoomers dont know how to socialize. Its worse on 4chan because they also dont understand nuance or literally anything and they heard 4chan was le epin meaniebumdoodoohead website so they believe in order to fit in they have to be vitriolic.
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>>97076907
You're correct if you want him to be indestructible as soon as he enters, but I think the other anon is assuming he'll stick long enough to get to combat, where he'll generate 4 mana from Firebending when he's declared as an attacker. At that point you'd only need 2 more mana after casting him to reach the 6 breakpoint for his ability. 8 total.
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>>97076932
A combination of anger addiction and terminal irony poisoning.
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>>97076911
Putting cards into somebodies library seems like it would be a pretty shitty strategy. I prefer removing shit from their library with like praetor's grasp and opposition agent.
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>>97076932
just ignore negative people and interact with neutral and positive people, simple as
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>>97076953
Just because you are given the 4 mana doesnt mean it isnt part of the equation????? You need to invest 12 mana total (you cant spend the extra 6 if you want him to be buffed) in order for this card to be even remotely threatening. I get you avatarfags like the character but that is meaningless in card analysis.
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>>97076911
Tuck doesn't work anymore anon
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>>97076907
On a 7/7 creature with trample and haste, flying is kinda pointless. You're better of giving it first or double strike, deathtouch or even lifelink at that point. There's a reason this card is regarded worse than Craterhoof.
Indestrucible is great, especially if you lean into it, but keeping mana across steps and phases is easily better. I'm sure you can build some funny shit with that alone.
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>>97076932
Echochambers and no real life experience but a need to still criticize.
There's a reason people just say "slop" and think its good enough. They absolutely can not back it up.
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>>97076980
Why tuck when you could just cut it off?
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>>97076981
Flying is objectively better than trample in literally every way imaginable. You dogshit tourists need to stop replying to me because you want to fuck the character on the card.
>moonshaker
Is better than craterhoof in every way. Again, you talk to shitters. Anyone who would prefer trample to flying is BAD at magic.
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>>97076972
It's just mono blue control that sets your enemy back while giving you unblockable tokens. He triggers when ANY card is put into a library, that includes your own card effects and deck.

You basically counter, tap or put back anything your opponent does and its netting you 2 unblockable tokens each time. Then you couple that with flicker effects and it gets worse.
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>>97076911
>people onions facing over the other Wan Shi Tong
Because he's genuinely strong.
>tfw I'm going to build this obnoxious piece of shit
Bad wan shi tong is still a pretty funny blink commander, run 20 counters and displacer kitten to make everyone miserable. Too bad blue is the worst color for weenies so the spirits don't really do anything. Post list when you're done.
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>>97076981
Bro the guy you're arguing with is a giant fag but you're not making a good argument for yourself by saying that Moonhaker is worse than craterhoof. Thing is that the two cards are comparable but are run in completely different decks.

Craterhoof is the staple "big green stomps you" card because unless you're Selesnya, you're not getting access to moonshaker
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>>97077006
>spirits don't really do anything
In a hypothetical situation where no one interacts with you, you're basically going to be clearing everyone's field. The fact that its two tokens per card is what's good about it.
>Because he's genuinely strong.
He is strong and the better overall card but not really as a commander.
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>>97076998
going through combat to win the game is just not that good when you could just search for your opponents thassa's oracle and then use it to win the game.
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I think I'm finally gonna make it happen gamers
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>>97077035
I disagree, the main set wan shi tong is a 2 drop value engine, grows as a threat, and an infinite mana outlet that wins the game, all at instant speed.
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>>97077082
>Boros group hug
Oh shit.
No one is going to take the bait though
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>>97073913
Yeah this sadly.

I find due to it's low cost Seismic Assault wants a deck that plays it, then spends the rest of the game utilizing it's abiliy

While Borb Enrage's high cost you spend your 7< mana turns doing setup then winning or near-winning all at once.

Despite the exact same text, I find the two cards actually want to be in opposite playstyle of decks, simply due to Cost + reliability.
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>>97076981
>There's a reason this card is regarded worse than Craterhoof
Unironcally I don't think anyone who knows this card exists believes this but a lot of people just don't know it exists. The only big thing craterhoof has on this card is having haste on its own. It's crazy to me that it's always been significantly cheaper than craterhoof
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>>97077101
>well if you have infinite mana..
>>97077035
I agree it is a more generically powerful card and a more exciting build around.
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>>97077114
Yeah. The only reason hoof seems better is cause green has better synergies for finding/casting it. Looking purely at effects moonshaker is the winner.
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>>97077119
And fwiw there are a ton of decks that have white and not green that still want moonshaker as a closer. Not being able to search it basically isn't a problem if you're drawing enough in Boros/Azorius and Orzhov can reanimate it
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>>97076981
>deathtouch
I agree with this Anon over all. Just using his post to Segwaying.
I fucking hate when they staple deathtouch onto already big creatures.

If it's got trample? Fine. That interaction is a little better than niche I'll admit. But anything that it's a 5/5 or bigger is generally going to kill anything it hits anyway!
>And fuck the other edge cases that I always know, so don't bring them up.
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>>97077106
>*may* discard
This ruins so many cards/strategies but I understand why Wizards does it.
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>>97076981
>mana battery
There are better commanders for this. The specific appeal of this card is the body attached to the battery.
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>>97077115
>well if you have infinite mana
Piss easy to accomplish with the best color for abusing artifacts.
Youre also conveniently ignoring every other strength the main set owl has.
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>>97077106
If they don't draw on dance they'll draw other ways. There are actually some decent madness cards to run in this too, basically I wanna be cycling my hand and dealing damage with impart tremors and AWBO
>>97077147
My real gripe is that the token/counters triggers are attached to Dance and not separate triggers whenever a card is discarded, but it's still an interesting enough card that I want to build around
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>>97076537
I wish my table was slow enough that I could durdle with a 6 mana commander in rakdos colors.
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>>97077147
It it was "each opponent may reveal the top card, do everything on the card, then that player puts it into there hand" it would be playable.
I don't think most people would discard unless they want to be discarding anyway.
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>>97076932
The internet is majority zoomers/aspies and non-pale skins now bro. Just gotta accept hostility and fronting are the default online now.
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>like knights
>my options for commanders are
>6 mana voltron equip commander that will die the second she hits field
>graveyard recursion deck disguised as knight deck
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>>97076079
Some form of tyrian purple, pic related. It's the color of royalty.
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>>97077218
>My only options are
>There are 29 knights that can be commanders
Did you means that you right now own or what?
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>>97077218
Run Shanid instead of Syr Gwyn
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>>97075220
>>97074415
Why did they change the wording?
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>>97077218
Play Haytham
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>>97077218
Sidar jababy is surprisingly based for being a new commander
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>really enjoyed Bloomburrow as a set
>don't have a bloomburrow commander because none of them clicked with me
Only one I considered was Baylen but I wasn't sure how to build it
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>>97077218
You can also go Azorious.

Just pick any Orzhov/Mardu commander that offers some broad benefits.
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>>97077231
Not him but I've considered doing that with my Gwyn deck but I'd rather no make an entirely new deck. Would Shanid work with equipments despite the whole legendary thing. Half the time with my Gwyn deck I win without even casting her
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>>97077243
You mass produce tokens. She's super straightforward
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Whats the best "Do thing, Draw a Card" commander?
I know there are a lot of them (especially lately) but which ones stand out above the others?
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>>97077255
Thats how I run her, Legendary tribal with Legendary equipment. Its actually pretty damn fun. Admitly i dont run it full knight creatures but still fun to play
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>>97077265
Tymna and thrasios. Honorable mention to kraum
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>>97077265
I'm not going to give you pointers on how to be incredibly boring.
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>>97077218
>6 mana voltron equip commander that will die the second she hits field
The secret to Gwyn is half the time you don't even cast her. You have access to all the boros equip stuff, so you can basically equip multiple creatures in your deck with reduced equip costs.

Half the time when I run her, my win con is a card like Fervent Champion
>haste
>first strike
>reduced equip cost by 3 so most equips are free on him
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>>97077269
>Legendary Tribal
Yeah sad thing is I like keeping my knight themed deck
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>>97077243
Its just tokens.dec you could do some memes with roles and shit like bloodforged battle axe if youre feeling silly. Here's the mvp
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>>97077265
Korvold
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>>97077303
Fair enough, but Id think you'd be able to run 25-30 legendary knights and still run Shanid as legendary knight /equipment commander. I know equipment is kinda looked down on, but I still have fun with it and get pleanty of W's
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I am so excited for more Evoke creatures.
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>>97077265
If you lose with this guy at the helm you really fucking suck at deck building.
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>>97077306
I knew this card existed and did not put it in my monoR enchant lost. Im a buffoon.
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>>97077243
That's literally me
I loved the theme and the set.... And yet none of the commanders spoke to me. Closest I've come to building one is Eluge
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>>97077468
Speaking of which... Apologize
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>>97077114
>The only big thing craterhoof has on this card is having haste on its own
But that is a very fucking large upside.
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What are the best monowhite CA engines (besides Land Tax)?
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>>97077531
Trouble in Pairs
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>>97077082

He's the secret MVP in Terra. Love that little bastard.
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>>97077218
>The only real choice.
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>>97076981
The only reason this is worse than Hoof is that G has better ramp and ways to cheat in creatures. If W had rampant growth and natural order this would be significantly better than hoof.
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>>97077482
Well yes but the edge cases where having one extra attacker don't make the overall card massively worse
>>97077628
>He's the secret MVP in Terra
I really want to build more 2 color decks and be seems like a great pick
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>>97074093
>>97074106
Way funnier with the original pic.
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Any cool Azorius blink commanders besides the usual suspects?
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>>97077264
*They's
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>>97077672
>Well yes but the edge cases where having one extra attacker don't make the overall card massively worse
They 100% do. It's at minimum 5 extra damage you'll be getting. The point of Craterhoof is to close out games, and it being hasted is one of the many reasons why it's the gold standard at that. If you have 5 1/1 creatures, Craterhoof already hits for 11, making 30 damage into 41. Moonshaker can make huge boards into wins, but Craterhoof can do that with even mediocre boards because it's in itself a menace.
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I like big wurms, simple as.
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>>97077366
best "cheaper than mv" commander to enjoy evoke, warp and other fun stuff?
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>>97077778
> off by 1
sadbdel.jpg
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>>97077475
For what everyone but the one retard was right about this card
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>>97077482
Nah not really. Flying is a much better upside. Everything hoof buffs can still be reduced easily. Flying is not easy to block.
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>>97074106
A troon here asked me why I hated troons and feel they destroy every space they invade. I explained him thoroughly as to why troons disgust me and he reported my post to the nannies, getting me a 2 day man, and thusly proving my point about troons destroying every space and hobby the invade.

Niko Aris being printed was the beginning of the end for mtg.
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>>97077778
I dont know who the usual suspects are to you but I enjoy my niko deck a lot.
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>>97074093
This is holocaust levels of did not happen
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>>97077825
if only it had haste...naya...i think i get it now...
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>>97077857
>niko deck
Troon detected
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>>97077881
I am an Aryan male with a biological wife 13 years younger than him. I also dont seethe endlessly about troons my life is much better than yours anon
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>>97077855
how is you getting a 2 day ban destroying the space
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>>97077889
bro...
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>>97077889
>biological wife
as opposed to what, silicate lifeform wife? boron wife? energy-based wife?
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>>97077890
He asked why troons disgust me knowing he was going to snitch and report anything I said. Normal humans don't exhibit such faggotous behavior.
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>>97077905
I see you haven't been online for long if you think being reported to the jannies is a lot lol
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>>97077905
Why did troons get brought up in the first place in a thread about a card game?
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>>97077910
Much like now, he just can't help himself bringing them up.
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>>97077898
A wife is a woman anon, she is biologically female. You cannot set the context for the conversation and then act oblivious to it, that just makes you look retarded.
>>97077905
How much of your day do you spend talking/thinking about troons anon? As someone who is 100% not closeted, I never think about trannies unprompted.
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>>97077910
Because the card game started printing several pushed troon characters such as niko aris and captain Sami from EoE.
>>97077909
It was faggot behavior that exemplifies how troons behave and destroy spaces they infiltrate
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>>97077918
>As someone who is 100% not closeted
Bro, you run Niko Aris, who do you think you're fooling when you typed that
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>>97077924
>pushed
a tapped 2/2 at the end of your turn for 4 mana or affinity for artifacts in fucking boros for 6 mana, wowie zowie
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>>97077924
Both the characters you named are "non binary" which is literally a rejection of transgenderism, as trannies cling to a binary and non-binary well, obviously doesnt! Youre literally a tranny obsessed faggot in denial anon
>>97077929
Niko aris cannot be your commander. Nu-niko can. And i never think about trannies im sorry if it upsets you but if youre obsessing over trannies the fault lies with you.
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>>97077896
Getting these vibes.
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>See Niko
>Wow, neither this card abilities, or design are good. I will never think about this character

>See Niko
>REEEEE REEEE THIS IS LITERALLY DESTROYING MAGIC FOR THE SUPER-STRAIGHT CHADS LIKE MYSELF
Wonder what is the normal reaction to seeing Niko.
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>>97077857
Honestly wanted to build Niko for a while but don't wanna go through all the blue/white creatures to see which creature would be funniest to have 50+ copies of
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>>97077939
You're coping so hard bro, just stop
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>"you are playing a tranny commander"
>yup, that's me, haha

>"you are playing a tranny commander"
>REEEEEE I HAVE A BIOLOGICAL WIFE REEEEEE I'M A HETEROSEXUAL NAZI CHAD AND I'M NOT INSECURE ABOUT MY SEXUALITY STOP CALLING IT A TRANNY COMMANDER REEEEEEEEEE
Wonder what is the normal reaction to being called out for playing a tranny commander.
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>>97078077
Yep, the troon lover ain't fooling no one
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I just got here. Qrd on today's autism? Looks like a /pol/ melty
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>>97078121
What is there to run down?
A retard obsessed with transexuals is being obsessed.
Same thing that happens everyday, in every general, on every board.
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>>97078077
>Wonder what is the normal reaction to being called out for playing a tranny commander.
"yes and?" would be it. Who the fuck cares what other people think, as long as you're not playing sweaty bullshit?
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>>97078121
Happens so goddamned often I wish they were banned on sight when they step outside of /pol/
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What are some good synergy pieces for this commander whose gender doesn't have any impact on the game whatsoever?
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>>97078121
Stay on topic troon
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>>97077855
>troons are bad because my off topic tranny seething gets my posts moderated
Rent free
>>97077918
>You cannot set the context for the conversation and then act oblivious to it, that just makes you look retarded.
You have to understand that calling your spouse a "biological wife" sounds retarded to normal people right?
>As someone who is 100% not closeted
The fact that you have to say this and have to get out ahead of the idea that your wife isn't a biological cis woman really assured me that you are 100% not closeted and have never experienced homosexual lust or desires. Also bragging about being married to someone over 10 years your junior is so normal too
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>>97078165
You will never be a woman.
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>>97078159
He/her is a pretty fun vamp commander if you dont want to play any of the ones people are sick of
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>>97078159
Lots of looting cards too.
Best my brain can do right off the top of my head first thing in the morning
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Report all troon supporters for off topic posts, just like they do to us when we explain why troons are terrible and ruin every hobby they invade.
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>>97078172
I will await your formal concession in the mail
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>>97077218
Sidar Jabari, the eminence one, is actually pretty cool though, and has good synergy with a lot of knight cards with good ETBs, or just overcosted knights in general. He also is one of the few non-cringe Esper commanders.

>>97077638
Most people I have spoken to just say you can run this guy as a commander and use both abilities normally. Knightlifelink is just 'Knights you control have lifelink', so it really is barely even a joke card.
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>>97077855
I play in a pod with 3 trannies and they're nice lol
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>>97078159
Xe should just be in the 99 for Terra, who is a far superior reanimate commander.
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>>97078261
he is however a cringe eminence commander
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>>97077948
Why is this a compilation of characters with sonic based super powers?
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>>97078302
3+ color commanders are supreme dookie
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>>97078306
Eminence is cool and all hate towards it is brown-coded crab bucket mentality.
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>>97077475
I remember this general screaming this card was the worst legend in the set lmao
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>>97078311
EDH was literally created for 3 color commanders.
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>>97078291
breh...
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>>97078322
Just because its humble roots are in dookie, doesn't mean it needs to stay dookie
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>>97078328
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>>97078331
It does actually.
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>>97078339
When was the last time you played with ante?
Magic as a whole started with ante.
>They got rid of ante for a reason
Thanks, I accept my point is true, that the first version doesn't need to be the current or last version.
3+ colors are dookie.
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>>97078322
If your commander isn't an OG elder dragon, you aren't playing EDH
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>>97078346
>comparing ante and 3 color
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>>97078334
That's one gay cat.
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>>97078346
>you like good things but you don't like bad things? hypocrite that you are!
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>>97077948
Their super power is being irrational screaming karens
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>>97078350
3 colors and ante are both equally bad. I accept your green text concessions.
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>>97078354
He is very happy
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>>97076932
Ya it's fucked up that Overwatch 2 General doesn't let me proxy cards.
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Speaking of Terra, i recently bought her precon and tried upgrading it a bit, could you guys review what i got so far please?
https://moxfield.com/decks/ioPlJBmyCEicUu0SkgODFw
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>>97076932
I am actually unsure. I'd say popularity but this site is on a large downturn of popularity.
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>>97076932
Most anons here just use 4chan as a whole to ventpost now, they're angry about something in their life and just transfer that anger to literally everyone else here
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>>97076932
>>you can't proxy cards because you just can't ok????
this one is based tho
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>>97076932
retards will say it was always like this but nah. I remember getting into the game around 2012 and noting how friendly /tg/ was compared to a place like /v/. Now it's easily worse than 2012 /v/.
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>>97076988
>Flying is objectively better than trample in literally every way imaginable.
I mean
I'd agree its probably the stronger keyword overall, but Trample does scale very well with Deathtouch, Double Strike and power boosts. Its not strictly worse than flying.
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>>97078456
based redditor
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>>97078515
No it actually is strictly worse than flying. Thats why on the card in question flying is the keyword you have to work to get, because its a better ability.
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>>97078527
Nice try but reddit commies love proxies
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>>97076932
>Only AI can be slop
>AI can't be art (even though it is)
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>>97078531
Flyers can be chump blocked by any of the countless cheap flyers and reachers in the game, tramplers can't.
Flying is generally better but it's not a strict upgrade in all situations.
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>>97078541
Just like 4chan
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>>97078306
I can agree to an extent, but his is pretty toned down as far as Eminence is concerned, and he certainly isn't broken bullshit like Edgar or Ur-Dragon.
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>>97078620
Correct?
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Does he cost too much to be in the command zone in mono black?
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>>97078515
Banding is objectively better than flying and trample in every way.
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>>97078764
Whoops
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forgot pic
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>>97078646
Genuinely youre not good enough at this game for this discussion anon.
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>>97078541
This is true, and the only reason i dislike proxies. Every proxy user at LGSs I go to happens to also be a tatted up antifa goon with rainbow hair.
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>>97078707
Gotta be one of the most braindead opinions ive ever seen shared.
>pic related
Totally not low effort slop right?
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>>97078799
Fuck off retard, you cant just throw around
>STRICT UPGRADE
Then cope when someone brings up a really realistic situation where it is not an upgrade
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sorry, forgot pic
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>>97078792
brings back memories of like 12 different variants on finality counters before they landed it there at all
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>>97078698
Card advantage/selection is literally the best thing to have with eminence anon what the FUCK are you talking about.
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>>97078819
Yeah, and it's tied to Knights, which has consistently been a pretty balanced tribe lol
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>>97078812
I can because flying is strictly better than trample. Again, youre just not good enough at this game for this discussion. Flying is rare, especially in well made decks. Having creatures to throw in front of tramplers is not. In all scenarios under the sun flying is better. Instead of getting angry and trying to come up with hyper specific gotchas (that dont work cause the flyers can also throw their bodies in front of the tramplers) just learn and try to understand why that is the case ^.^
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>>97078829
>I can because flying is strictly better than trample.
Which is getting past pic rel? Flying or trample?
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>>97078807
>Doesn't understand what Warhol was doing and why it is infact art.
AI can not find the sublime in the mundane or the meta context.
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>>97078842
This can block 1 creature so the army of fliers buffed by moonshaker still gets through. I will refer you to my previous post, paraphrased,
>instead of scrambling around for hyper specific gotchas (that dont work) just learn and get better
Flying is always better than trample. Yes even against the >1% of decks that have fog bank in it, flying is still better.
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>>97078857
Tell the class anon id love to hear it!!!! Everything not in your greentext is decidedly AGAINST Warhols own explanation of this piece but go off id love to hear it lmao
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>>97078807
Doesn't look low effort at all
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>>97078799
I'm just objectively correct and that's why you can't refute what i said.
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>>97078875
Weird cause Warhol himself admits it was and then went on to mass produce it. Go off king!
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>>97078857
Just because it's art doesn't mean it's good art.
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>>97078890
All AI art looks the same.
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>>97078886
Sure thing anon ^.^ we are all so proud of you! Trampling is better actually because in certain hyper specific circumstances flying actually CAN be blocked. Are you by any chance a woman?
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>>97078896
>BROS I CALLED HIM LE TRANNY OR A WOMAN! I HAVE WON!
Do you wear a hat, have a beard, and weigh over 200?
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>>97078893
1. Nope
2. If that is your complaint why are you sitting here defending Warhol lmfao all his shit looks the same. You dont have to defend a "real" artist just cause they arent AI. You are allowed to have said "yes thats trash too" at least then youd be principled.
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>>97078896
I didn't say trampling is better, can you actually engage with my post or are smug reddit gotchas the extent of your input here?
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>>97078908
t. Thread crying at some Golbez fag literally because every card he posted looking identical to all other AI art

All the coom shit looks the same. You cannot tell what is "coomette" AI cards and which isn't. Because they're identical.
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>>97078901
>tranny
No one said this. Are you the tranny obsessed retard from earlier? Youre a woman because you were told "generally X...." and instead of accepting the OBJECTIVE REALITY OF MY STATEMENT, you had to go off about
>ermmm well not under that specific circumstance
This is literally how women engage with reality. Flying is still strictly better than trample at all times. Fuck sakes I hate zoomers so goddamned much
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>>97078921
Ok chud. See, if I call you a name then I won. GG
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>>97078910
>>97078901
Irony? No. I dont want to engage with your posts cause they are literally worthless. Flying is a stronger keyword than trample. Are there specific situations where that isnt true? Yes. Are those situations common? No. Is flying still a stronger keyword? Yes.

Literally no discussion necessary please end your worthless argumentative existence fuck sakes.
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>>97078944
Why did you quote me?
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>>97078947
You are the same person. If you didnt want to appear to be the same one you shouldn't have leapt to his defense with an identical level of retardation.
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>>97078901
Stop acting like an mtf tranny and people will stop calling you one.
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>>97078944
You didn't say that flying is generally better than trampling. You were strongly insisting that flying is a straight upgrade to trample in literally all situations, which isn't true, so now you're retreating into low IQ strawmen, canned insults and less assertive versions of your prior argument.
I have never said that trample is better than flying and yet you are unable to argue against my actual point, only this misrepresentation of it (it's because you're not a very intelligent person and should be tilling fields instead of reading and writing).
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>>97078764
mono black has better ramp than mono green
there, I said it
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>>97078915
These look identical to you?
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>>97078998
arr rook da same
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>>97078998
I see these ads all the time but it seems inconceivable to me that anyone would roll up to the LGS with these, i don't understand how this is apparently a popular product.
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>>97078961
Oh you're a schizo
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>>97078971
Stop acting like a 300 pound rayban wearer with a beard and MAGA hat and people won't call you one.
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>>97078865
>flying is strictly better
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NOT IN THAT SITUATION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Many such cases.
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>>97079010
I've seen one guy play with these before
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>>97079010
welcome to your first day on the internet bro, leave while you can
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>>97079021
>MAGA hat
Who brainwashed you like this bro? Republicans and democrats are exactly the same level of gay and troony
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>>97079021
lmao it's actually a tranny
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>spend time specifically combing tcgplayer to put together my order in as small an amount of sellers as possible
>get a message the next day "HURRR ACTUALLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT CARD! LMAO GET REKT"

I FUCKING HATE TCG PLAYER I FUCKING HATE TCGPLAYER I FUCKING HATE TCG PLAYEREHWWEDTRY56
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>>97079010
Every tatted up cEDH playing rainbow haired faggot and troon at my LGS roles up on game nights with entire decks proxied out like this, including the lands. Welcome to LA, bitch.
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Thoughts on off-color monuments? Bontu's in a monowhite deck?
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>>97079042
You can always tell by how they type. They can't blend in no matter how hard they try. It's sad.
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>>97079049
that didn't happen and if it did that's a good thing
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>>97079033
Can you describe what he's like?

>>97079034
I mean i know coom stuff is popular of course but to bring it to a place with strangers and maybe even kids is deranged.
Far worse than that is being such a tasteless slave that hideous AI goyslop is apparently enough to make them buy those cards, at least get nice looking custom coom cards.
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>>97079010
I don't use them. I don't even like them. I just make a point to point out absolute stupidity when I can.
One of those stores has 17k stales and the other 6.6, so using them or not, people are sure as shit buying them.
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>>97079069
chill cool guy, he's in a band
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>>97079060
Rainbow hairs are the biggest anime tiddy proxiers
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>Come back home after visiting my family
>People are still talking about me
I hope (you) had a happy thanksgiving
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>>97079069
>but to bring it to a place with strangers and maybe even kids is
the only people who do this are your run-of-the-mill liberal/left LGBT and furry gooners at various public sex festival and conventions, and they do way more vile acts in front of children than just play "sexy" cards. but public gooners are a minority. the vast majority of gooners are secret gooners.
you are likely very young, or you are just a naive dumbass who never learned shit in his life, but you need to realize that gooners usually stay in their rooms to, you know, goon. there is a reason why there is so much porn getting commissioned every day, and why you never see it in public.
gooners know what they do, and they know they need to hide it. well, except for the ultra-faggots, you know the type.
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>>97079109
I hate thanksgiving
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>>97078915
Are you retarded?
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>>97079047
Every single motherfucking time. Or how about:
>2 full decks in 6 orders, got super lucky and found every card
>one order never arrives, down 20+ cards
If it weren't the cheapest option by fucking far I'd never touch that garbage website again
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>>97079069
>I can't imagine what it's like at an lgs because I don't go to an lgs
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>>97079109
I hope you did too. Post a pic once you print that cute proxy anon
What did you use to Gen it?
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>>97079109
I live in germany, we celebrate HARTENSCHARTEN around this time. Everyone gets together to hit each other with HOLZENLĂ–FFELTS on the ARSCHENKRAMPFEN until they KACKENWURSTEN and DURCHENFALLEN all over each other. Only two family members died this time, good times.
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>>97079130
My LGS has up to 50 people at bigger Magic events, i've just never seen someone use AI coom proxies before.

>>97079111
I'm not confused about why people buy coom stuff in private, but if someone buys proxies it's generally because they wanna go out into public go play with them, not jerk off to them in their room.
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>>97079137
and a ching chong nip nong to you young lady
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Does he astroturf and sock puppet just so he can whine about trannies or does he really sit waiting for any reason to springboard off into a tantrum about them?
Not healthy either way.
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>>97079167
The dregs of society post here. What do you think the answer to that is?
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>>97079167
the former
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>>97079150
>if someone buys proxies it's generally because they wanna go out into public go play with them
pretty strange how you never met anyone with coom proxies then. it's almost as if you are wrong.
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>>97078975
Flying is a straight upgrade to trampling alwyas. Much like a gun is a strict upgrade to a bow and arrow (unless you need to fire quietly!!!!!), will there be situations where maybe a bow and arrow will actually be better? Yes. Guns are still strictly better than bows. And flying is still strictly better than trample.

Your point is genuinely the point of a frantic braindead woman anon. Please give it up. Nuance doesnt need to be specified, everyone knows it exists, all youve done is muddy the conversation because you have this desperate need to appear intelligent.
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Deathtouch is better than both flying and trample because no one wants to lose their shit
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>>97079239
Pretty sure a 50/50 flier or a 50/50 trampler is more threatening than your 2/2 deathtouch.
They're arguing about game enders not something you want to poke with for triggers.
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>>97079239
I will throw my shit at your deathtouch creature
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>>97078412
Should be red and blue or give menace instead of unblockable.
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>>97079239
First strike. I always have it
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>Opponent plays Vamp Tutor on 1
>I play a land and cast Opt before my next turn starts
>Signet on 2
>I play a land and pass
>TOR on 3
>I Spell Pierce it
>"You're not letting me play the game anon! This is why I hate Izzet!"
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>Spend most of my day playing 7 days to die with the bros or project zomboid
>absolutely detest the idea of making a zombie deck
Anyone else enjoy something in one media, but hate it in magic?
>>97079410
My regular pod hates my very bad pillowfort deck because it can turn off their etbs and stop them from attack me.
They also feel that is "not letting them play the game."
People want to do thing and will always be mad they can't do thing.
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>test friend's sauron deck against other friend
>drop the one ring early
>use it 4 turns later with mt doom to blow everything up
>"wooooow, that's such a bullshit card"
>drops necropotence and draws 20
and then he goes on his weekly triade how I build all my decks too strong for our table, then apologizes for his whining, then blaming me again. what makes my decks so strong you ask? no, not overpriced goodstuff or game changers. I am guilty of the crime of having a gruul deck that runs 2 unlimited hand size cards and using tapped fetchlands to tutor basic lands.
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>>97079109
I'm anti-sloppa, but admire the bit. Is this Amano art whimsical enough?
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>>97079426
>Anyone else enjoy something in one media, but hate it in magic?
damn you are just asking for it lmao
i can think of a few things
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>>97079459
Yeah, in retrospect it might not have been the best question to pose.
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>>97079426
Zombies feels kinda strange. There are some great, cheap cards, but the best strategy for them is Dimir combo and just go infinite with the dungeon zombie or Wilhelt.
I tried making it work as a non-combo token commander with Wilhelt, but it felt like playing a weak selesnya deck.
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>>97079426
I enjoy skeletons. Skeletons in magic are 99% shit. They have regenerate, fine. Some have recursion, find. But their fucking stats are uselss. Either make them 3/1 or 1/3, or give them deathtouch, or make them create a skeleton token when they die, I don't care, just for the love of god make them useful.
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>>97079480
i know what you meant, but to cool it with antisimetic remarks, i hate equipments and vehicles. Both are very slow and clunky and don't really convey the feeling of upgrading your champions that well.
i tried to make Vehicles work, but i figured the only/best way to really do it is to use a busted commander to tie them together, so i settled for Kykar - and i actually love that deck, which has more to do with it being Jeska Artifacts essentially
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>>97079501
>I enjoy skeletons.
Some day we'll get a decent skeleton lord commander.
Some day.
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>>97079518
I have been coping for 20 years, and I will cope for 20 more. Some day, bro
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do i really need both in my mono g counters beatdown deck?
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>>97079501
>>97079518
>>97079521
i fucking love tribes that remain niche and are wonderfully jank in their commander choices.
it certainly beats the generic "cast skelly, draw card" or "this enters, put +1 counters on skelly" generic value poopy shart you WILL get
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>>97079530
Do you tutor for/cheat out shit? No. Run zero tutors? Maybe, yes.
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>>97079501
>make them create a skeleton token when they die
be careful of what you wish for
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>>97079518
>>97079521
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>>97079541
i dont do neither, so thanks for advice.
i like that both have a bit of utility stapled on besides the big mana
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what was your first skeleton commander? mine was Athreos aristocrats with some disgusting stax
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>>97079518
Ahem
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>>97079563
>now your 1/1 skeleton can do even less!
th-thanks
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>>97079563
ok cool, i will recurr my skeletons from the graveyard to remove their textbox, how cool
commanders that somehow add to the typeline never ever will be true tribal lords
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>>97079456
cute
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>>97079563
Seriously, just needed this bitch to be legendary and she'd be 10/10 would waifu for life.
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>>97079571
those holes look mighty fuckable
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>>97079586
>>97079586
>>97079586
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>>97079580
>your end step
>not every turn
>only once per turn cycle
It was so close to perfection
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>>97079456
this is far better lmaoo



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