What happens when Magic runs out of franchises to do crossovers with? Will their new fans get bored and leave? Will disgruntled fans come back?
>>97078532Anyone still playing and buying magic in 2025 is already conditioned to digest slop.
>>97078532Second lines from the most popular crossover franchises.
>>97078542True, but eventually the slop will run out. What happens then? Will the new fans stick around or will they get bored and move on to something new?
>>97078561Maybe. It will be interesting to see how the Hobbit line does in comparison to the LOTR line.
>>97078532They won't run out. They may have to lower the bar, but there's new franchises being made constantly - vidya (Expedition 33), indie animation (Amazing Digital Circus and the like), gacha (gun-centric ones are probably out, but there's stuff like Uma Musume) and so on. Magic only does what, 4 crossover sets a year?Then there's public domain stuff. Or cannibalizing dead old card games, Wizards should still own old (pre-Androind) Netrunner for example. And DnD is good for another few rounds with Planescape or Eberron.
>>97078532I want my X Files crossoverhttps://youtu.be/KomquOrtcCc
>>97078634Anything can work as a secret lair, but with sets is different. There aren't too many suitable IPs, even if they would lower the bar a lot I doubt that IPs like those in your suggestion would have the mass appeal WotC is interested in.
>>97078634>They may have to lower the bar, but there's new franchises being made constantlyWould they be profitable though? With liscensed crossovers Wizards has to pay a cut of their profits to the owner of the IP. Unless the crossover sets are selling significantly more than the first-party sets it will be more profitable to stick to their own IP.
>>97078532UB Masters. Reprints ad nauseum means you don't need actual MtG staff on payroll.
>>97078634>but there's stuff like Uma MusumeI'm pretty sure they would literally wind up in a yakuza chop shop if they tried their usual shit on this one.
>>97078532The fact that they are doing crossovers is the red flag that they ran out of ideas and are trying anything to make another dollar. They are not even using fantasy type franchises. Just any piece of shit pop culture.
>>97078595They'll dig deeper. There is always more crossover garbage. It will never end. Ever.
>>97078532They wont run out, they set a precedent that quality is not a factor when they released ass creed
>>97078595They will do a "We've listened to the fans and given you what you want!" and then do a MTG2.0 and repeat the cycle anew.
>>97085632Japanese media in general is going to be much more strict with any of their IP being used in crossover stuff like that. They care VERY MUCH what their characters are portrayed as looking like and doing, they won't just take the money and forget about you.Like how Kazuma Kiryu isn't allowed to be in fighting games, because Kazuma Kiryu is never allowed to hit a woman even in a non-canon context.
The old man i buy yugioh from just gifted me some magic cards as theyre not that popular here and he barely sells anySo i got curious and started learning the thingIt was all cards from the unfinity setIt fucking sucks. They all have retarded effects that force me to engage with people outside the game in really retarded waysAnd they all have some circus/show whatever themeAre there still magic cards which are fantasy themed? I wanted to play goblins, trolls, dragons, yknow the usual. Not this circus garbage
>>97086338I can tolerate weird stuff like circuses and cowboys and race cars, but nothing takes me out of Magic like seeing Sephiroth or Godzilla show up.
>>97086388Yeah but I fuck with Godzilla heavy, so-It gets a pass when I like it.
>>97078532Multiverse what if inversed roles from the same franchises. Shit like Megatron Prime, Darth Jar Jar Binks, etc...There are levels of funkoslop we can only fear
>>97086318they still let this through
I hope they get Harry Potter
>>97078634>They may have to lower the bar>he speaks as if he bar isn't already on the floor already
Is this decent value for someone who doesn't want to give wizards too much money? Was planning on getting the avatar mastery pass.
>>97086388This is a misunderstanding. They want to sell you UBs, so they soften you up with retarded hat sets first. After that whenever you say "but I don't want Spiderman's camera in my Magic" they can always point to Duskmourn and tell you "cameras have always been part of the universes within".
>>97079063>UB Masters.It boils my piss that Maro flat-out said that there was no demand for a Masters-style product reprinting UB cards with actual Magic flavor.
We're gonna get a Grimjack/Mythadventures/Girl Genius block with art from Timothy Truman and Phil Folgio and it'll be like the 90s again.
>>97078605Is the Hobbit line using the Peter Jackson designs?
holy shit. i didt know magic was this fucking gay nd retarded. i'm happy i bulled faggots who played this shit back in kittatinny reigonal high school 1999 to 2004.fucking faggots ended up being troons and addicts lmao
>>97091546Uh huh.
>>97091546>6 years in high schoolShouldn't you be serving someone fries?
>>97078532>Will their new fans get bored and leave?theyll probably retain a minority of people, but yeah for the most part the franchise slutting is their death throes
>>97087605>good dealIt's pixels brother
>>97078595>eventually the slop will run outMaybe in 100 years if literally nothing new gets made. You do realize there are literally hundreds of untapped franchises right boomer? Even if they released 10 unique ones a year all of us would be dead before seeing a tenth of them. Bionicle Halo Zelda Conan Dune Hunger Games Harry Potter Twilight Power Rangers Fortnite PUBG Ender's Game IT The Addams Family The Flintstones Miami Vice The Sopranos King of Queens Home Improvement Supermarket Sweep Jeopardy Family Feud Heckler & Koch Springfield Ford Motor Company Honda Wal Mart Target KFC Wendy's The Man With No Name Trilogy Ghostbusters Biker Mice From Mars Paw Patrol Neopets Tamagochi Barbie Universal Horrors Grabbed By The Ghoulish The Ernest Goes To Camp Ernest Goes To Jail Ernest Scared Stupid The Naked Gun Trilogy Pirates of the Carribean The Fast and the Furious Scooby Doo Boardwalk Empire Carnivale HBOs Rome Supernatural Buffy the Vampire Slayer Brazzers Vixen Kink.com F1 NFL NBA MLB NHL Akira Kurosawa Beetleborgs Animaniacs The Simpsons The Swiss Family Robinson Gilligan's Island Bewitched Dragnet Tour of Duty Space Above and Beyond Battlestar Galactica Babylon 5 Xena the Warrior Princess Hercules the Legendary Journeys Ninja Cats Sewer Sharks Code Lyoko Reboot Are You Afraid of the Dark Goosebumps Guns n Roses Aerosmith Nirvana Marshmellow Skrillex Snoop Dogg Ice T Jumanji The Rat Pack Arcanum Gothic Indiana Jones Atari Neo Geo King of Fighters Mortal Kombat Stardew Valley Adele Ella Goulding Belle Delphine Hololive PHASE Battles Without Honor or Humanity The Godfather Robin Hood Knights of the Round Table Beowulf Sengoku Jidai The Reformation The 30 Years War Dilbert Clifford Wallace and Gromit Torchwood The X Files Deadwood Friday the 13th A Nightmare on Elm Street Citizen Kane Fargo Riverdale The Howling House of Leaves The Haunting of Hill House The Matrix Rance AliceSoft Playboy Penthouse US Marines The 100 Years War Fairy Tale Sailor Moon Madoka
>>97092146I agree with your sentiment, but frankly most of these don't really have the potential to be turned into Magic decks.
>>97091336No the hobbits are black now and gay lesbians
>>97078532>Will their new fans get bored and leave? Yes. Thr mythical few that got into mtg as a larger gsme from UB will also trickle out.>Will disgruntled fans come back?No lol. Thermocline of trust will be broken at that point.
>>97092314>I agree with your sentiment, but frankly most of these don't really have the potential to be turned into Magic decks.nigger they just made a Furby secret lair. They made a Bagel and Schmear card for the spiderman set. They can and will. That being said I'd love to see historical events and eras as magic sets, unpozzed ideally.
>>97087605play some drafts and buy the mastery with that
holy shit i didnt know MtG had gotten this badGrim
>>97092314Dude, if they can create literal "the Office" cards, nothing will stop them from doing the Hamburglar or the Dyson Cinetic Big Ball Absolute 2.
>>97092314>most of these don't really have the potential to be turned into Magic decksMy man, neither did >>97078532 or pic related. Sure these ones are nicknames but it would literally be zero effort to for MaRo and fags to hash up some original card to slap IPs on. Here I'll do it right now:>Ronald McDonald, Loving It>1WR>Legendary Creature - Human Clown>Whenever this creature enters or attacks, create a Food token.>Creatures you control get +x/+x where X is equal to the number of Food you control.>0/5If you're trying to argue that thematically and aesthetically Dead or Alive The Magic School Bus Wheel of Fortune Pulp Fiction or Love Live don't fit into Magic you've been wrong for 6 years. As soon as The Walking Dead became part of the game Magic ceased having any distinct world building. It's always been generic multiverse fantasy slop, now it's just generic multiverse slop.
>>97078532They returned to Ravnica, they can return to Final Fantasy. MtG is a product without a termination point.
>>97093045The content and conduct of a secret lair is incomparable to a standalone set and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>>97093100There is a direct correlation from TWD/Godzilla lairs/nicknames to full on Dr Who and TMNT sets. If you are fine with Miku and Dwight being on a couple of cards you're also perfectly fine with Spider Man and Star Trek.
Magic is absolutely done. It's going to make a lot of money for Wizards of the Coast for a while, but the damage that has been done is already irreversible. And every single cunt you see at an Avatar prerelease is culpable. Lord of the Rings and D&D Magic sets were already a stretch. But going into multiple other IPs and seeing Final Fantasy make 200 million, should prove how fucking retarded these söykikes are. They will buy anything, ANYTHING that contains The Thing I Know™. They are genuine subhumans. You should bully them. I'm not joking, I'm every possible legal way, you should bully the fuck out of idiots who buy Universes Beyond. I have alt discord accounts sitting in the discord servers of every FLGS in a 30 mile radius and when someone shills for Universes Beyond I direct message them the same copypasta about how they ruined Magic along with a bunch of scat gifs and rekt gifs to make their day a bit less pleasant. Discord won't block free VPNs so it's easy to make a new account and go back. Sounds childish? Well at least I am fighting back against this shit on a low level. While not buying anymore WotC products. What have YOU done to fight against the Universes Beyond slop scourge?
>>97086318>They care VERY MUCH what their characters are portrayed as looking like and doing, they won't just take the money and forget about you.>btw here's all the weird officially licensed hentai shit
>>97092146>good options (genuinely ok with this)>Bonicle Halo Zelda Conan Dune Harry Potter Power Rangers Pirates of the Carribean Fast and the Furious Scooby Doo Goosebumps Mortal Kombat>shits and giggles (still stupid, possibly funny, ok as a secret lair or something)>The Addams Family The Sopranos Ghostbusters Universal Horrors Ernest The Naked Gun Trilogy Supernatural Buffy the Vampire Slayer Brazzers Beetleborgs Animaniacs Battlestar Galactica Guns n Roses Aerosmith Nirvana Belle Delphine Hololive PHASE Stardew Valley Jumanji The Matrix House of Leaves Wallace and Gromit Snoop Dogg King of Fighters The Godfather Dilbert Sailor Moon The Simpsons >lame options (stupid, or not enough to work with) Hunger Games Twilight Fortnite PUBG Ender's Game IT The Flintstones Miami Vice King of Queens Home Improvement Supermarket Sweep Jeopardy Family Feud Heckler & Koch Springfield Ford Motor Company Honda Wal Mart Target KFC Wendy's The Man With No Name Trilogy Biker Mice From Mars Paw Patrol Neopets Tamagochi Barbie Grabbed By The Ghoulish The Boardwalk Empire Carnivale HBOs Rome Vixen Kink.com F1 NFL NBA MLB NHL Akira Kurosawa The Swiss Family Robinson Gilligan's Island Bewitched Dragnet Tour of Duty Space Above and Beyond Babylon 5 Ninja Cats Sewer Sharks Code Lyoko Reboot Are You Afraid of the Dark Marshmellow Skrillex Ice T The Rat Pack Arcanum Gothic Indiana Jones Atari Neo Geo Adele Ella Goulding Battles Without Honor or Humanity Robin Hood Knights of the Round Table Beowulf Sengoku Jidai The Reformation The 30 Years War Clifford Torchwood The X Files Deadwood Friday the 13th A Nightmare on Elm Street Citizen Kane Fargo Riverdale The Howling The Haunting of Hill House Rance Alice Soft Playboy Penthouse US Marines The 100 Years War Fairy Tale Madoka
>>97091546Based bully chad
>>97078663I believe them when they say they are working in 2030 sets, but they are going to run out of suitable franchises really fast. Mass appeal or a rabid fanbase and sufficient depth to flesh a magic set with the franchise are a requisite, and those types of IPs you can count with the fingers in your hands.>>97092146If you try to compile a list like that one of varied IPs, you have to come to this conclusion.
>>97087921>Grimjack
>>97093045remember what they took from you
>>97078532reprint old cards with a uhm pink border and color corrected art - if you know what I mean
