Previous: >>97073712>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQPost one or two of your favorite decks and tell the thread a bit about your experience with them.
wow you made a new thread before anyone posted their skeleton commanders
>TQGnomes are cute, but people don't seem to enjoy getting punched in the knees to death by them.Even though I've played Pia Nalaar a lot, and against the same people a lot, they always seem to be taken a back by how strong and how fast she can actually be.Surely, not shocking insights to share, but that's the most common experience with them.
>>97079586I don't know how to build decks that aren't combo imo
Good commanders for a Madness Tribal deck? I picked up this thing and it seems really funny to build around.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97079644I wish everyone played pauper commander
>>97079586>Post one or two of your favorite decks and tell the thread a bit about your experience with them.Cecily/Elmar. Just a bunch of creatures/effects to get me to 11 cards ASAP then I windmill slam dunk huge dumbass timmy burn spells like Explosive Singularity, Searing Wind/Searing Flesh, or Sorin's Vengeance onto the table. It's mad fun playing all my bulk burn unplayable stuff from the last 20+ years
Bought all the cards for a new deck because my store was doing a Black Friday thing on singles. Never even playtested it. Am I cooked?
give me 5 reasons not to make an all-proxy deck
>>97079631>wrong colorsShit sucks and I've hated it for years. This is the only commander that cares about madness, there's way too many to look through that cares about only discarding stuff
>>97079655I made an all proxy Omori deck and just felt kind of ashamed afterwards. I printed a few all proxy decks that other people have made. Pokemon, Pokemon, legend of Zelda, dark souls, dead space, and death note. And a RuneScape one but that wasn't a full precon so I had to fill it out with whatever esper cards I had lying around in my collection.The dark souls one is my favorite.
>>97079655That's a behavior of a troon, to have a fake deck to go along with your fake vagina.
When I was new to the game I made a Nekusar deck since I am a big fan of skeletons wearing crowns, only to find out later how hated he is by most casual players. My deck had very few wheels and was just focused on drawing everyone cards, one of my friends often commented when I played it: 'That's not very Grixis of you'That's my skeleton commander story, thanks for reading
>>97079698hard to argue with that logic
>>97079613Are you playing against people with no interaction and/or don't bother to read?Anim is KOS in the 99 if my token deck, I'm lucky if she sticks around more than one turn
>>97079710I have a Nekusar deck with zero wheels and limited extra draw and everyone loves it. People love how it's essentially 1-3 extra Phyrexian Arenas while they play. Sucks your friends have bad taste
>>97079726I've got several ways to protect her, and people don't always JUST have it.I'm the arch enemy on turn 0 with her though yes.
>>97079586>TQI feel like a god every time I try to control the board with my artifacts and lose the next turn
>>97079749Can't wait until they combine these two, then we'll have the ultimate durdling deck
>>97079655the main reason is that you have to make a new proxy every time you change a card.I still own a few proxy decks I "designed" with MSE>norin meme deck where I replaced every pic to depict cavemen>rocco meme deck where every card has a cook/food in it>captain nigga with all art replaced with various surreal/horror artworks>zurgo helmsmasher doom meme set using a a wide mix of doom-related art (ingame screenshots from overworld maps for lands, official photos of the doom enemy sculptures for creatures etc)problem is, I never upgrade them because of them being all proxy, so now they just sit around and never getting played.
>>97079788Just rule 0 partner them. If your table doesn't let you they're a bunch of faggots.
>>97079805I'd rather not have you take 10000 hour turns, so no, go find a new table.
>>97079808S-Steve?!
>>97079655it's expensive if you want to make it look good
>>970796982 cents have been deposited on your account
>>97079833t. felt called out
>>97079826If you have the set-up to pint your own its like 6 cents a card.
>>97079836t. Felt the need to protect the profits of a corporation
>>97079805>If your table doesn't let you break the rules of the game they're a bunch of faggots.Bait or mental retardation? Call it.
>>97079698Faggot tier behavior. Sorry you dont know how to install printer drivers or use a laminator. You do have a pc, right? You're not a mobile queer?
>>97079858Partners are already one of the most busted mechanics in the game. Letting you have "partners but each half is an actual commander" is giving you a ridiculous advantage. I would not let you rule 0 to start with 8 cards on hand, why would I let you do this?
what if companions didn't require your commander's color identity but added to it?
>>97079873Are you retarded? You're agreeing with what I posted.
>>97079884I just answered the wrong post, sorry. Meant to go for the guy you were answering too >>97079805
>>97079867>I am a woman because I own scissors to cut my dick off withYou will never have a real deck or be a real woman.There is in world where you are not trying to pass off as a real deck and a real women, which they arent.Facts. QED. cope, seethe, dilate.
>>97079910nta, but what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to believe a man creating something with his own two hands is akin to cutting your own dick off? who actually shat into your brain, you little corpo bootlicker?
>>97079910ESL faggot cant work a gluestick so he seethes on 4chins. Sad. Many cases. Ill give you $1,000 to forfeit your H1B and go home.
>>97079933Are the cards real?Are you a woman?No.This isn't hard. Fuck off with your delusions and stay the fuck out of the LGS.
>>97079941>if you make a piece for a game yourself, it's not real>therefor, if you are a man who crafts something on his own, this means you want to be a womanabsolute baffling. the faggotry within you is not only big, it's colossal. the biggest fag I have encountered in a long while. completely fatherless behavior.
>>97079960It's only baffling because your head is so full of fake hormones.Not real cards.And you are not a real woman.This clearly his super close to your tranny home.
Am fake tokens tranny?Or am I just a faggot?Where is the line?
>>97079971no, this is baffling to me because I am a man who values other men creating stuff on their own, even if it's just for a hobby, and I severely dislike little fatherless faggots like you. it's really that simple, faggot.
>>97079586>TQDeck building? I just net deck everything.
>>97079971>you are not real womanOh, you're a chink. Are you a salaryman or a NEET? Who am i kidding, you're on 4gooks, ofcourse you're a jobless fucking shut in no games. You've never made anything in your life. Kill yourself any time, champ. No one will miss you.
>>97080010>friend of mine complains endlessly about netdecking and how much he hates edhrec>His decks are all 1:1 with the highest rated decks other than cards worth mover 100 a piece.
>>97079998buttba
Ok, I used a little bit of social engineering and one guy crashed out hard. This was for packs at a store event. I'll try to keep it short. >player A is about to win with simic ascendancy >player B has 5 or so creatures with flying>player C has an entire board with lethal on everyone on attack and reach (got fogged)>me (has twinning staff and 10 untapped mana)>I wormtongue player B into attacking players C and A with flyers >I intentionally tell player B that if either player blocks, I can kill them, but I quickly tell player A and C that im just kidding>player A and C do not block. >I flash in and see double furnace of rath, kills players A and C.>player C asks what the fuck, you said I would die if I blocked. I told him I was kidding, remember? >player C get super pissy and says he changes his mind, he's changing his blocks >have to call a judge >he ends up scooping and running off, salty as all hellapparently player A and C felt it was very bad manners to tell them I would kill them if they blocked (indirectly, to player B) and lied about it
>>97080028you can't prove this happened
>>97080035you can't even prove you posted
>>97079998I don't know about that line, but there's a line between not killing yourself and killing yourself you need to be on the other side of.
>>97080042how can our posts be real if our eyes aren't real?
Why do proxies make /edhg/ so mad?
>>97079998there should be a gooner format where you're ONLY allowed to use goonfuel proxies
>>97080081at this point what doesn't make /edhg/ mad?
>>97080083Better triple sleeve. Cum gets everywhere
>>97080081Because they think everyone else should have to dump hundreds of dollars into every deck like they did to play games with their friends
>>97080083>the tits on your toph are too big, disqualified.
>>97080092>too bigNot a thing
>>97080081Why should anyone be accepting of cheaters?Now watch the massive damage control from people claiming somehow it's okay.
>>97080100People tolerate it when I say bracket 2 decks are bracket 3 in an attempt to get someone dq'd.
>>97080101No they don't.
How do I build this duck, bros? Do I go full lifedrain and switch, or do I also diversify and include a lifegain and then drain strategy?
>>97079998Tokens are fine. You're not depriving wotc of a sale, even the hardcore whales don't buy and use the official tokens.
>>97079998Only trannies care about proxies and cry about them.
Rate my interaction suite.
>>97080081It's only the people that lack all self control and proxy out some bullshit ass $2k netdeck to stomp on their friends. Proxying out all the $1-10 cards you put in every deck is perfectly acceptable imo
>>97080138>guy plays bitterblossom >its the next set print>runs the stalest edhrec bracket 4 with dual lands>almost all of his shit are blatant counterfeits>has no idea how to actually play and gets pissy when dunked on>>97080028If its past the blocking phase, sol. If every player is threatening a win, you are responsible for your own decisions. People dont like getting tricked.
>>97079998no shot you or anyone else actually uses this garbage
>>97080100If there's mutual consent it's not cheating, it's polyamory
>>97080157>PWKBetter options>TerrorNot horrible but still better options>SlipNeeds setup but pretty solid>Dark WitheringReally needs a deck built for it, but okay in it>Hero's DownfallOutright bad.
>>97080197Building my first black deck and these are the cheapest ones I could get.
>>97080207They're generally not bad except for Hero's Downfall. However if you don't have ways to set up Slip/Dark Withering then I'd probably just look towards random common removal.
>>97080165Why is this ok if he bought the 2000 dollar deck?
>>97080207Go for the throat is fairly cheap. Most edicts are cheap too and can hit everyone and goes around protection shit.Just something to think about.
>>97080219He's a faggot, but he's put serious investment into being a faggot. He's sat at the gloryhole filling up. He's got AIDs and a real chains, he's earned it.
>>97080219If you wanna drop two fucking thousand dollars on paper then I'll play whatever bullshit you can concoct.
>>97080239>>97080240>he deserves to make my game unfun if he paid for itlmfao
>>97080219WOTC defenders and scalpers.
>>97080028I myself fell once for smoll bean tactic>just let me live another turn anon, those other guys are more threatening anyways>kills me on his turn with some ridiculous power doubling haste and trample shenanigansOnce, I was guilt tripped into not killing a player early>20 trample commander, unblockable 24/24>hylda down to 20 but has a board that lets him tap 2 creatures per turn and draw 2 every time he taps something, his commander, a full hand, 10 lands>lifegain player has 60 life and serra ascendant, not much else on the board, no cards, no draw>hm, better go for hylda, he will tap all of us just and just go lethal>lifegain player goes "do you really want to kill someone that early?">alright, I swing at you for 44 then>hylda kills us both next turn
>>97080157>>97080207oh shit nigga you are serioushow about putting 5 more edicts in that affect all opponents, 3 board wipes and maybe some creatures with built in interaction/removal?
>>97080245You know you don't have to play with anyone and are free to scoop at any time. If you can't honestly see how its different though, I don't know what to tell you.What would you rather have though, this one faggot ruining your game every 1 in 50 or more games because no everyone has legit 2k+ dollar decks or 3 faggots who sent money to china ruining every one of your games, because that's what happens with most proxy fags without self control, and probably happens more at your lgs than you realize.
have you ever had someone spite-concede before you got your triggers before?I keep hearing about supposedly this being a thing but never actually seen it happen
>>97080273No.
>>97080273several times, and posters here get supremely butthurt when most of the time, the remaining players lets them keep the triggers.
>>97079998I like these
>>97080273Small triggers? Eh, no. I had this happen to me though>guy with huge board of huge creatures swings at everyone for lethal>Cast a card so I would be left at 1 hp>Then cast deflecting palm at him on one of the creatures coming at me, so he would kill the 2 other players and himself leaving me the winner>When I fully explained how I was going to win, he scooped before combat damage actually went out because we were still in the declare blockers phase burning my spellsFew other instances like that I guess, but nothing like at mid game just to fuck my triggers.
>>97080280>the remaining players lets them keep the triggers.As it should be
I don't think that fire bending is as good as it initially seems, the mana only lasts until end of combat. So your deck needs a lot of activated abilities or instant spells yeah? If you build your deck around it that's pretty good but it's not like you can cast creatures with this mana really
>>97080294Earthbending is the only good one
>>97080214Withering I can set up easily enough on my own turn, but it's more like a 1cmc sorcery speed kill spell for me.>>97080222>>97080258Are edicts actually good though? I feel like they'd just be sacrificing a dork or a saproling when I really need to kill their vivi or something.
>>97080299Waterbending is improvise + convoke so it's pretty good imo
>>97080282Thanks homie, I'm trying my best.
>>97080321w-why is that unicorn looking at me like that?
>+10 years later>still see people crying about eminence
>>97080321YJK
>>97080299>>97080294Earthbending is probably the best.Waterbending is good on paper but there are barely any cards for it that will work together Airbending is nicheFirebending is only good for instants so yeah and relies on your creatures attacking so unless you're going to win the game instantly on the attack you're probably losing all your creatures
>>97080343
>>97080321Different colored lipsticks really do it for me anon
>>97080321What are you using to gen?
>>97080356WAI-illustrious-SDXL on Forge held together with spit and a dream on my shitty rig.
>>97080365You are doing pretty good for that ghetto setup
i just bought a $25 precon and $12 worth of upgrades and im ready to tear up the lgs
>>97080372Good luck anon, hopefully you can beat some 3s.
>>97080321
>>97080300>Are edicts actually good though?They are situational, yes, but they often hit more than one player and if they play a big piece early they can only sac it.Their biggest upside is, like stated, if it has indestructible, shroud, hexproof, or protection, being forced to sac it gets by all of those effects.
>>97080321Holy fucking amateur hour, anon. Fix your shit
>>97080300depends. there are edicts that force your opponents to sac their most expensive/powerful creature. there are edicts for non-token creatures. an early edict removing 3 dorks/support creatures is never bad. playing 2 edicts in a row is also never bad.also, try to find board wipes that don't affect your board, or give you value in return. cheap single target removal is good, but it doesn't go around protection.
>>97080207If you want cheap here’s some options>>pwkJust cut that it misses to many common creature types heartless act is a good slot in>>terrorGo for the throat and or doom blade>>tragic slipI prefer Stab or Disfigure it’s always -2/-2 is and 1 mana>>dark witheringSame as terror>>Hero’s downfallThat card sucks if you really need to kill a creature or walker use Feed the Cycle instead it costs 1B and forage/ B so you either cast it for the same as downfall or you can sac a food/ exile 3 from your graveyard. Much more flexible for same effect>>honorable mentionsMalicious affliction kills 2 creatures if a creature diedTithing blade is an edict that can turn into a drain effect laterMy favorite atm is Nowhere to Run. It has enchantment synergy gives -3,-3 and ignores hexproof and ward so most things either outright die or get crippled
>>97080294So I guess, thread topic then, what are good mana sinks for firebending? I'll start with an easy one
>>97079586>TQI know people despise Slivers, but I love these guys.>commander night at LGS>playing First Sliver>two guys are ambivalent about Slivers>one guy straight up says he'll focus me and nothing else until I'm dead>ok>massively luck out with Gemstone Caverns >double luck out next turn with a Chrome Mox>get First Sliver on the board on turn 3>start cascading like a fucking madman on turn 4>deck has a bunch of suspend stuff to turbocharge my lead>get profane tutor>get Legion >board is now absolutely monstrous with 8 Slivers, including Legion>hit the salty guy like a brick through a glass house>he starts screaming at the other two to help him>they've barely just begun doing stuff>salty guy gets sledgehammered>dead>gets all pissy and leaves the store instead of waiting until the next round
>>97080400Not like WOTC fixes their own shit
>>97080413People "hate slivers" because they're "super popular" yet I've seen 2 in the past 2 years.And one was a precon
>>97080411Literally any of the X spells in red. There's like 100 of them
>>97079655Anime referencesMovie referencesTV referencesVideo game referencesPotentially a quick turnaround for cash once you reach retirement age
>>97080400Kinda weird that 'n' is drooping when they're all on the same text line, but hey, thanks for catching that.
>>97080416Didn't they have like 6 of these basic ass errors in one set recently??
>>97080422I think it's one of those "not very common but has a reputation" sort of things, similar to Eldrazi. The problem with both is that their precons are pretty mediocre and require heavy investments (e.g. the Titans for Eldrazi, First, Overlord, Legion, etc for Slivers), but once you do upgrade the deck, they can be pretty ugly.
>>97080456Yeah the n is what I noticed first, then I tried lining the whole text up and that's what I found
>>97080440Those don't count because you can just declare any number for x and then not pay mana for it
>>97080458They do it frequently.
>>97079998Fake tokens are fine, fake tokens that exist to publicly display your fetishes are not.
>>97080408>heartless actDamn I missed this one. This would have been solid.>feed the cycleAlso good. Shoot.Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep an eye out for these.
>>97080479Anything fake is bad. Everything must be authentic WOTC cardboard
>>97080471This is so fucking easy to check goddammit
>>97080081Because WOTC charged $1000 for proxies and /edhg/ has never forgotten.
>>97080486Multi billion dollar company. pls understandu
>>97080157How relevant is regeneration in your games?
>>97080506Never once has been
>end up in a pod with a guy who yaps relentlessly>cannot understate how much this guy will not stop talking about how cool his own decks are>plays his "oops, all spells" commander deck>plays hermit druid with a haste enabler>mills out>dread returns Thassa's Oracle>Fierce Guardianship his dread return>gets mad at me for playing free counters in a casual game>sits there bitching while we keep playing the game>keeps saying I should've let him win so we could shuffle up and play again>just keep playing without him>after like an hour of this he leaveslmao get fucked
>>97080157Speaking of interaction it's $2-$5 for bolt bend in black btw. Dunno what you're building but scavenger regent is a 4/4 body with an omen mode to make every non-dragon get -x/-x and it's one of the better cheaper board wipes that gets around indestructible in black rn
>>97080510Replace Terror with this then. Malicious Affliction over Dark Withering, of course. Maybe consider Murder over Power Word Kill?
>>97080539>pulls faggot strats like thoracle and milling out>gets mad when someone gets a free counterspell Wat
Got this today cuz I thought it was pretty. any chance it will ever be unbanned?
>>970805802 more weeks
>>97080580lol
>>97080580wait it's banned?
>>97080580No
>>97080591Hey buddy. You just blow in from stupid town?
>>97080577Honestly I’d tell him to use any of the destroy creature or enchantment with an additional cost like Feed the Cycle, Feed the Swarm, Bitter Triumph etc. it’s nice to have the anti-enchantment option
>>97080580higher chance sol ring will become a gamechanger
>>97080157>>97080207This one's sadly crept up a bit over the years. Used to be like three bucks.That being said, it's a fantastic gotcha in any black deck where you don't have blue. Literally nobody ever sees it coming and will always assume you have a kill-spell instead of stack interaction.
>>97080413Sounds like you were generally just mismatched in powerlevel unless the others were also playing fast mana and just not drawing it
>>97080598I don't play with cards after Tarkir Block, so I don't recommend them either.
>TQI like the sea monster archetype, with shit like Kiora/Kenessos so I switch between them. Kenessos I think I have more fun with, its just a little more janky than cascade and having to topdeck manipulate. Its nice to see more creature support for it, I would just like a new commander that adds merfolk to the list.
>>97080466Slivers are more hated because they can very easily dominate in low/mid level pods and stores where people's interaction is lacking.They're hilariously snowbally and alot of their effects are very cheap for what they do, like Galerider being a 1 mana Levitation.Most players at these levels don't have the deck-building knowledge or just general game skill to identify and remove critical pieces at critical times. Sometimes, even if they do, the amount of value Slivers can generate quickly means your removal doesn't feel impactful outside of a straight boardwipe, and even then it can be too late.Slivers, funny enough, absolutely fold to cheap, recursive interaction or damage. Like shit that can ping creatures for 1 or 2 consistently. But those types of cards are so niche in their usefulness and color accessibility that alot of people understandably don't run them.Tutoring an Umezawa's Jitte against Sliver players in my equips deck absolutely hoses them every single fucking time. It's really funny.
>>97079586>Post one or two of your favorite decks and tell the thread a bit about your experience with them.With Vislor TurloughDraw and hand size punishment deck. Bit of group hug, bit of group slug, bit of control, bit of pillow fort. Kind of like a less assholish Nekusar. Heavily control based to handle all the cards I am going to get my opponents to draw. Generally wins through more sudden wins like windfalling 20 card hands with multiple draw punishers out, or dropping an iron maiden when everyone has giant hands. Or some combo with peer into the abyss such as psychic corrosion.I once "milled" the table out with Forced Fruition
>>97080400What a loser
>>97080653You've been talking about this deck I feel for over a year now and while I don't really care for Doctor who I respect the fact that you made something unique that you enjoy and that nobody else really plays. Diversity is what keeps this game interesting
>>97080579He's a very hostile individual once anyone intrudes on his game plan.
I pulled this guy today. Was gonna build a shrine deck since they are all seemingly cheap except for the other commander. Was gonna mix in some spirit support. Any interesting cards I can put in? Trying to make it not an annoying shrine deck though idk if that is possible.
>>97080751Forgot image...
I don't believe you.
>>97080372>>97080373picrelwill i have fun or will i have !!FUN!!?
>>97080772there are some ""people"" who hate edicts so much you can see their faces go red, their veins pulsating, etc.
>>97080798Those people are usually faggots who t2 crystalline slivers
mono black lifelink is brokengary is just stampede but better
>>97080712I've had the deck for two years now.
>>97080878this but sub-ironically
>>97080798retards who play decks where a single creature matters and they have no other creatures
I want to look at an azorius/bant artifact commander for ideas. Anyone got a suggestion that I can search on edhrecAre there better versions of Repurposing Bay?What would you run with Cryogen Relic?
>>97080902Consider.
should I build it? imo
>friend sent me the latest proxies he needs me to print>Mondrakwhat subtle altering should I make to the card text to fuck with him
>>97080969I don't have an answer, I just wanna say that Sibsig Ceremony is very funny in my Manderville deck
>>97080972>two other artifatsSubtle and his brain will probably just instantly fill it in correctly while reading, and immature, which is max funny.
>>97080972change "artifacts and/or creatures" to just artifact creatures
>>97080991he cute
>>97081008
>>97080996>>97080999that will work, thanks anons
>>97080219It's not okay to bring a pub-stomp deck regardless of it being proxied or not.
>>97080934Actually had him in the deck at one point. I think I may try to cut down on tricolor costs in the 99 but will think about adding him back not a bad suggestion
>>97081079Then the issue has literally nothing to do with proxies. It has to do with being too retarded to set the brackets of your pod.
why did they make warp not work for commanders?
>>97081091Because they learned their lesson with Yuriko
Dr Who fans: Aren't cybermen supposed to be robots? Why is he human, and why can he do magic?
>>97081131>Aren't cybermen supposed to be robots? Why is he humanHumans are turned into cybermen. They are basically the borg from star trek.
>>97081131His conversion got interrupted. I don't recall the reason why but he was never fully converted. He still has emotions and such.That's not magic. It's "the cyberium" which is supposed to be like some special thing of cyber knowledge and power.
>>97081136>>97081140Neat. If there wasn't like 1000 episodes I probably would've gotten into it. There seems to be some real great moments in the series
>>97081148Just start on season 5 of the modern series and go from there. If you want to just watch and finish that doctor then it's 3 seasons. Then you can decide if you want to watch the rest.Everybody likes Matt Smith, and Eleventh Hour is a top 10 episode. It's a decent jumping on point though obviously you'll miss some context.
>>97079586>Post one or two of your favorite decks and tell the thread a bit about your experience with them.And my other main deck. With Clara Oswald (naming black.)Historic deck with a tribal theme. Wins through beatdown from constant legendary buffs and value from doctors. Can be somewhat inconsistent because who you get with him will greatly impact the game>turn 2 or 3 Morophon/Six DoctorNeeds to be killed immediately or will spiral out of control fast>turn 2 or 3 First Doctor or Fifteenth DoctorAbsolute fucking waste.I cast Clara maybe once every handful of games. Rarely is there nothing better I could do with 6 mana. Still does well because the game has an absurd amount of bullshit to support historic as a theme.
>buy box of like 2000 cards>maybe 100 I'll keep
>>97080081It's just a vocal minority of annoying retards who scream that everyone who uses proxies immediately makes a bracket 4 sweatlord deck they're somehow sneaking into bracket 2-3 games. In reality they're just seething that other people are smarter with their money and aren't participating in the secondary market ponzi scheme buying their cardboard bags (and that they can no longer pay to win). Antiproxyfags are extremely low test and angry but powerless, which is why they resort to feminine shame tactics like guilt (you just want to cheat!) and emasculating name calling (troon! poorfag!).
>>97081239ummmm shill bros our response?
The format has been ruined for me ever since i was stoped from non-deterministically storming off for 20 minutes with this
>>97081239> nooo you have to let me proxy a Tundra, my deck just wont work without it!!
>>97081316>NOOOOO You can't proxy that Avacyn! You MUST pay twenty dollary doos RIGHT NOW!
>>97081323> Heh he doesnt even know that my TOR is a counterfeit card. Good. Its not weird at all that Im lying to my opponents, its a good thing.
>>97081335>lyingI tell people I use proxies.
>>97079586>TQA clone deck which abuses the mutate mechanic to grant toymaker evasion and enable me to make non legendary copies of him to quickly drain the entire table in card advantage and life.unfortunately I still don't have another deck I would consider my own and fun.
Every time I disagree with someone I just invent a strawman and if they contest me, I say they're acting in bad faith.Works all the time on the official Reddit and Discord.
>>97081404Based. I've got a toymaker deck. Doesn't use mutate at all, though. That's a new one.
>>97079591Here.
>TQBig Green.dec, 62 lands with only two nonbasics (war room and nykthos) with a subtheme of mana doubling (mana reflection, doubling cube) and maro-sorcerers, which I just have all of them in there, plus the Staff of Titania because its effectively turning a creature into a maro-sorcerer.This is less of a deck and more of an engine designed to enable me to say phrases Man was not meant to utter. Phrases like "I genesis wave, x = 75" and "I sac Sandman to Greater Good, drawing me forty cards and discarding three." It has no game changers or infinite combos, I am just going to kick you in the dick with Glizzy G and the Tree Brigade and if you try and counter my spells I will cast Seedtime.
https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_QEnded up instantly winning out of nowhere today after getting shut down all game.>transpose before my turn -> make black mage, draw into mana geyser>use pic rel on black mage token and get an archmage of echoes>mana geyser, cast harmonic prodigy>have four harmonic prodigies and 2 archmage of echoes>cast stormsplitter>receive 1 + 1 + 2(5) stormsplitters>each stormsplitter copies itself 11 times every time I cast an instant or sorcery>cast brainstorm then frantic search>11(11(12)) new stormsplitters>cast innala and kill everyoneIt got out of hand so quickly.
>>97080294i think a firebending commander may be great way to teach a new player that instant speed is the way to play
>>97081290your networth ist your network
>48h later>seller still hasnt shippedprofessional seller my ass.
>>97079586>TQjust built and then improved a Toph, Greatest Earthbender Deck and it's been a ton of funthe greatest boon has been explaining that "no, the land itself says it has vigilance/can't be blocked"
>>97081871Cool. Anyway I cast Evacuation.
>>97081887in response, I gaslight the red player you just removed 45 gobbo tokens from that you're the biggest threat, heh
How many decks are too many, in paper? At what point should you sit down and decide whether to cannibalize older decks, because you play the new shinier stuff more often?
>>97079591Honestly, I just want this guy and give him legendary and green so he can use Skeletal Swarming. And that's it. Decent skeleton commander right there. Or do something like Throne of the Grim Captain but in the command zone.
>>97080593>That flavor textHurkyl is a woman? I never would have guessed with the one card she's on. Always thought it was just an effeminate guy.
>>97080633I'm glad they sort of combined the sea monster tribe this way. Would have thought horror would count but I guess that's a wider net that doesn't always include sea horrors.
>>97080506I don't really like black but this picture awakens something in me... is there a way to search for cards with art in the "suffering angel" style?
>>97069271update to this, it was the nonce.owners are going to boot him and i have sent the proof to several other regulars so they know
>>970820204 decks: Old, new, aggro, blue.
>>97082157Based anon, keeping your community clean.
>>97082020I have 40 and I think it should be closer to 35. If I played more it'd be fine I just can't decide should get the axe
>>97080972Gloryhole Dominus
>>97082375nebraska FLOURISHES
Magic is like a restaurant But they don't serve the dish I likeSo instead of going somewhere else I complain about it endlessly online and shame other people for the food they enjoyI'm a pro eater so they should cater to me
>food analogy
>>97082020I always feel like more than six is where things start to get unwieldy.
>>97080765
>>97080411
>>97082020whatever you are comfortable with lying around i like having my decks at one point upgraded and optimized, but then not touched/tainted by current powercreep. neat little time capsules
>>97082383>>97082396Food was always a dumb mechanic anyways
>>97082375What about all the little Viashino children that had their race completely removed as a type from the game? Is that inclusion? Is that diversity? Is that growth?
>>97081887Burp
>>97079653You 100% Wont be using all of them
>>97080028Sneaky jew tactics
>>97082375Why are there no negative comments on this article?
>>97080608 Grabbed this when a anon suggested it years ago. Sometimes you fags dont argue about stupid shit and have good recommendations
>>97080413This is why people hate slivers anon
>>97082603People hate everything when they lose - Slivers, Eldrazi, Markov vampires, wheels, elves, hatebears, boogiemen like Vivi, Nekusar, Muldrotha, Korvold, Ygra, Yuriko... they want to play they safe space solitaire combos and are not ready to fight for what they want to do, they expect it to be handed to them on sliver plate with no effort from their side.
How do I get someone in my group off my dick? Every time we play, he goes after my shit, throws his removal at me and I got to focus him down. It gets to the point we're it's basically a 1v1, but also another player is basically his brother so he supports the guy that's removing all my shit.
>>97082620My point was you? Popped off like crazy way too early. Thats going to annoy anyone
>>97082620Well that situation sounds like they were playing mismatched power levels. Gemstone caverns and chrome mox are both very powerful fast mana, if the other guys didn't sign up for a game that fast, with a game winner turn 5 basically, then it really is anons fault for not reading the room. But if they did have a discussion before hand how they all wanted to play Bracket 4, they he is just being pissy.
>>97082627The guy went after him even before the game started. Maybe anon wouldn't need to start going crazy early, if he wasn't pressured into that role.
>>97082633Lets be real anon, he would of done the exact same thing even if he didn't have the other player targeting him. Basically, this>>97082632. Im not against anything he did
>buffs your creatures>flies so it's safe to attack with>DOESN'T die to removal>low quantity jumpstart exclusive rare>still unplayable bulkthe absolute state
>>97080458Three but yeah
>>97082649Why isnt it playable?
>>97082649Looks playable to me
>>97082650What's the issue on diplomatic relations
>>97082674The first part is supposed to target a creature you control. As printed it's just a green murder, which at common would really have fucked the limited format.
>>97082677They should have let it, fuck it. Shake things up.
>>97082650Was genemorph supposed to be legendary
>>97082683nnnnnoooooo! standard can't handle that level of power!!!!
What should my Ally commander be?
>>97082020After about 5-6 you're just making the same decks with a different coat of paint.
>>97082683yeah, fuck colorwheel
>>97082714This is only a problem for people with ADHD, you should get yourself checked
>>97082714if you're bad and just abuse staples
>>97082714I have 6 boros decks with a far amount of staples in all of them, and none of them play the same.
>>97082714This is how you know you're shit at building decks.
>>97082768Favorite one to run?
>>97082719>>97082729>>97082768>>97082787bunch of larp fags lmao>no bro I totally discovered a whole new deck archetype that isn't just aggro/control/combo
what is goodstuff? is it just the most powerful cards every color combo has to offer?
>>97082840You cant be serious, gotta be bait. You truly think theres only 5-6 deck types out there, no inbetween?
>>97082716They already are
>>97082840What decks do you run anon.
>>97082840A gruul aggro deck is going to be very different than a boros aggro deck.Not to mention those decks are going to play very differently themselves based on the commanders helming them.Your first post was nonsense, and your second is just idiotic to the point you have to be bait and I'm going to write you off as such.
>>97082712
>>97082850you know what, I was gonna write how it's just running staples and sacrificing synergy but I feel it has changed a lot these days. almost every new card is a KOS self fueled engine so they need no other synergy so everything printed straight to commander is goodstuff
>>97079586>Post one or two of your favorite decks and tell the thread a bit about your experience with them.My favorite deck is my Lord Wingrace because I just love playing around with lands.My second favorite is pic related.It started as a Wilhelt precon that was mispriced at Target so I got it for $15. I stuck it in a box for about a year because I didn't really care about playing it.When I finall pulled it out I thought it was pretty cool and decided to upgrade it. I switched out WIlhelt for Varina, who was a part of the Aminatou precon the first deck I ever owned, and found her gameplay to be very fun.For some reason this zombie deck has become my signature deck. Every time a new secret lair with even a single zombie card comes out my friend buys it for me as a christmas or birthday gift so the deck is chock full alt arts. Another friend bought me a deck box with Graveborn Muse and Lilianna on it. He also bought me art sleeves with Hashaton on them.The deck is so tricked out with various extra things that it's become by far my most expensive deck despite not running super expensive cards and I've bought none of those things myself.
>>97082714I have 32 mono white decks. They don't play the same.
>>97082914Unfathomably based
>>97082840lol. lmao, even
>>97082840>Only lists 3 archetypesVery telling of your creative skills and deckbuilding prowess.
>>97082907That's neat that you have a deck mostly made from the thoughts of your friends about you. If that doesn't make it your signature deck, I don't know what does
>>97082840The differences between how decks perform within those archetypes is interesting and fun to explore. I don't get bored of falling into those archetypes because I'm not a cynic.
>>97082840I have five different flicker (a distinct subcategory unto itself) decks and they all play extremely differently from each other. You are just bad/retarded.
>>97082914how many have land tax and scroll rack
>>97083091I think 1 has scroll rack, all of them have land tax.
>>97083124lame
>>97081239Projection: the post
>>97081239Every single proxy user I have ever met has made a bracket 4 sweatlord deck which they are profoundly ill-equipped to actually pilot. This isn't a small sample size either, this is like 20 people over the last 3 years
>>97083208You just outed yourself.
>>97083223Nobody cares, nobody's watching or listening!
What do you think they are gunna do with the monster hunter secret lair? Just reskinning different cards can't be the solution, but making mechanically unique cards will just be the exact opposite problem.
>>97083260What do you mean by "the exact opposite problem"
>>97083260They already released the cards. You can just go look at them. Weird question.
>>97083277no one wanted reskinned cards that hardly reflect the monster/armor they are supposed to be. And even less people want some unique card that will take 3+ years to see functionally reprinted.>>97083283nah son, they decided to delay the cards and redo the lair.
>>97083260Mechanically unique cards for sure, but it mostly depends on what Capcom's specific complaints were. Sucks that they didn't just put it out as it was since it would have bombed hard. Now they're going to bring in someone who knows what they're doing instead of some normie intern who googled each of the pieces of art they were given and just slapped them on random cards.
>>97083300I feel like more people want mechanically unique cards.
>>97081239Show us your bracket 2, 250 dollars or less full proxy deck.Probably don't have that, so show us your proxy deck that definitely won't be a pub stomper or so high power it might as well be CEDH.
>>97082914No you don't
>>97081341Why? For what possible reason could it matter under your line of logic?
>>97083300Crazy had no idea. Wotc actually backed down on retardery. Kinda crazy.
>>97083394It's probably because Capcom freaked out, their latest game is in the shitter and they NEED good press
>>97083356This is an old photo, but yes I do.
>>97083355You can play bracket 2 just by buying precon, you don't need proxies for that, precon's MSRP is $69.99, you just need to swap a few cards to give it clear direction, for those that try to do too many things at once. But you don't need nowhere 250, about $90 for the precon and some 20 cards to swap and you are set. Bracket 2 is comfy.
>>97083403That's 28 decks.
>>97083403>has that many white decks, which begs the question, how many decks does he have total?>equal amount of other colors, or just only white decks, both equally terrifying>writes on the sleeves so he doesn't mix them upI've seen some shit, but this takes the cake.
>>97083403What are your favorites?What drove you to do this?Do you have any decks that aren't mono white?
bracket 3 has become the simic landfall retard sanctuary where if you do anything that's can actually beat total board vomit they cry and act like victims
>>97083426It's an old photo. I've added these four since. Katilda for spooky Halloween deck, the other ones did things White hasn't been able to do well, like Bad gift deck with the Moogle, and group hug with Taru Taru
>>97083403I want to be like you, one day. But black.
>>97083482>What drove you to do this?One day, I just felt like all the other colors didn't speak to me. I wanted to find the limits and hidden power of the color. >Do you have any decks that aren't mono white?I have 30 something other decks from back in the day, but they are collecting dust. I just can't play anything without White anymore.>What are your favorites?My Odric deck was my first commander deck back in 2016 when he came out in SoI. I've had him close to a decade now and it's always comfy and straight forward to play him. But, I love how Crovax plays with the life swap mechanics and I love combining with Lin Sivvi, even though I play the same lines with her most times.
>>97083405Why would a proxyfag buy anything
>>97083590I buy from coom proxy sellers
>>97083570>I wanted to find the limits and hidden power of the color.What have you found, wise white wizard? I only have a Darien deck for mono white. What can you tell me?
>>97083615You're a odd duck, but at least your buying from a small seller and not china
>>97083403A U T I S MUTISM
>>97083394Wotc doesnt care. Capcom cared. Wotc has spent 30 years fucking over its customers, they know we wont do anything.
>being so socially inept that you just quietly allow yourself to be rapedhonestly one good thing about UB is that we're getting more normies into the hobby instead of autistics
>>97083691youre not paying for the card you're paying their rent
You bitches should crack more jumpstart boosters so the prices are actually reasonableI'm not paying 60 dollars for a Toph even with the 10% credit
>>97083619The biggest lesson I've learned is that you need to be very flexible with the cards you select. For instance pic related is a fantastic card. It can get rid of any problem on the battlefield and gives up the concession of two cards. But it can also read "shuffle nonland permanent you control into your deck and draw 2 cards". So it's a draw spell when you need it and a removal spell when you need it. Sure Generous gift can blow up troublesome lands, but you can have lands such as demolition field and strip mine to actually get rid of those. Generous gift can't draw you two cards when you are stuck or when someone removes your nonland permanent and you want to get a little bit of value from it.In fact, yesterday I did this when playing my Frodo. Someone tried removing him with Chupacabra, and I Path to Exiled him instead to get a land. Usually, don't do this, but I did it because I had card draw and needed to get ahead in ramp. Worked out well in the end.Brought back is probably the best ramp spell in the game if you are running lands like Scorched Ruins and Lotus Field but it can also save your best pieces late game.Also, Darien is pretty fun, good choice.
>>97083768Forgot pic related kek
>>9708373910% credit?
>>97083768My mono white deck is apothecary white and it's loads of fun, have you tried her?
>>97083784I have Apothecary White in Astrid Peth, I figure the earlier I start getting food tokens, the better they will be in end game. No one blocks early game because it's just value creatures so usually you can get 3 - 5 food tokens by turn 4 when people really start blocking.
>>97083403>look inside>90% creature piles
>>97083768>Brought backDidn't know about this one. Thank you.>Also, Darien is pretty fun, good choice.Yeah I started to build him in late 2012 and then started adding to him again this year. Back then it was pretty niche and underrated, but now it seems like everyone knows about him. Either way I still like it. Hitting yourself for a bunch of tokens and then dropping Humility is very satisfying. https://archidekt.com/decks/14945737/darien_king_of_kjeldor_humansoldier_lifegain_tokens
>>97083691>Sell something about exact value>Go out of business because most boosters don't make a profit and most bulk won't sell in the first place>People complain that there are no lgs in the area anymore.This is like basic entry level economics. An LGS or any store, needs to make some kind of profit to keep the lights on.1 dollar for a bulk is higher up, but holy shit, first world problems to whine that you are supporting your brick and mortars.
>Go to walmart>Buy a single booster>Pulled these Aang is really worth 6 dollars? I thought it was kinda meh, but hey, delighted I turned a profit.
>>970840281 dollar bulk is just a sign that the store doesn't get enough singles coming in, which is probably a sign that they aren't paying very good prices for singles, which probably also means they're also ripping off customers with exorbitantly higher than MSRP sealed prices.
>>97084045That Aang is a four-of in the main combo deck of the standard format
>>97084028$1 for bulk is absolutely insane and you're fucking retarded for thinking it's okay. No one should be paying $1 for a card worth literal pennies
>>97084056That'll do it.
>make a deck>it just devolves into either a worldgorger combo or living death
>>97084077Okay? Then build a different wincon. it's not hard
>>97084092added context it's a predh deck not versus other predh decks
>>97084104>predhBack when Magic was still good and not novels-on-cards. I yearn for the halcyon days.
>playing wincons
>>97083691>Cali>Whining on redditYou just know this is a troon.
>>97084028Lgs can be scummy as fuck just because s equally scummy it's still shit.
every deck just becomes a combo deck
>>97084151If you let me assemble this, you deserve to have no board and my deck in hand.Its not even a good 'combo'Most people do because they're too busy being worried about the mothman in the command zone
>>97083885Creature piles: 17>Giada Angels>Mavern Fein Vampires>Minwu Clerics>Soraya Birds>Beregond Humans>Sephara hate bears>Delney Hare Apparents>Odric key words>Elesh Norn Phyrexians>God Eternal Oketra blink>Patron of Kitsune life gain>Rune-Tail Templars >Katarina + Prava flying cats>Arahbo actual cats>Lita artifact creatures>Darien self damage >Astrid Peth FoodVoltron: 5>Katilda Spirits >Frodo equipment >Brigone Auras>Noble Heritage Lae'zel>Yoshimaru+Keleth White DevotionControl: 11>Kitsune Mystic Aura Control>Norika Yamazaki Sagas>Crovax life swap>Yes Man Mill>Wandering Rescuer Instant speed>Cyan Recursion and Self mill>Elesh Norn, MOM landfall>Tataru Taru group hug>Stiltzkin Bad Gifts>Jo Grant Cycling>Mila PlaneswalkersCombo: 5>Partnerless Alisaie Leveilleur Storm>Kentaro Samurai Combo>Antivenom Combo>Ao Dawn Sky Eggs>Nadaar dungeon/blink comboIt's about <50%.
>>97079659>>97079631madness is casting from exile isn't it ?
>>97084234No.
How to show people the beauty of Phyrexia? Atraxa is a bit too expensive for my taste, so I am looking for other options.
>>97084244>44not sure if 'lying on the internet'or there is a step / nuance i am missing
>>97084234one of my first iterations of rocco had her. if your deck is mostly cheap spells, it gets out of hand fast with the tokens. also, cascade and discover, my old friends.
>>97084321During the beginning phase, when does prio first get passed?
>>97084371I did not mean to link
>>97084371the first round of priority happens on upkeep, after "beginning of upkeep" triggers have resolved
>>97084396After they resolved?Thought you could react to the triggers
Slivers, sovl or slop?
>>97084434both actually with a healthy dose of wotc failed potential.
>>97084434There sovl because they're bad but everyone will instantly target you for playing them despite being one of the shittiest tribes.Eldrazi are the real slop
>>97084434Both because they're the original slop
>>97084434>Are they low IQ meaningless zoomer buzzword, or are they low IQ meaningless zoomer buzzwordHm.
>>97084408You are corrected, priority is passed around on triggers, which is why you can react if something triggers in the draw phase like Teferi's Puzzle Box.
>>97084434Both.Regardless. Both slivers and eldrazi are to be killed on sight.
>>97084321still undecided if i want Faldorn in my Rocco deck or not. i already run Pia, and her Tokens are infinitely better
would be nice to have a plane where there is a mexican stand off 3 way fight between Slivers, Eldrazi, and Phrexians.just them, fuck planes walkers, U.B. and trannys
>>97084550Unfortunately for you, WotC knows that dragon yaoi will sell infinitely better.
I'm still mad how bad wotc fumbled the phyrexian story at the end
>>97084541if you run him as a token deck, you absolute should put her in. the value is just too insane.the only reason to not run her in token rocco would be if you lean more into artifacts than creature tokens.
>>97084255There's plenty of commanders that have to do with poison or just the phyrexian theme in general. How about building one of the praetors? There's plenty of power there. Gix and yawgmoth are also good choices that are on theme.
>>97084606There was A LOT of background between Urza and Yawg to give enough believability as to why Yawg would rage out and turn into a fart monster and chase after him leading to his demise. Norn raging out and fucking up was to hamfisted just to have a parallel, which I'm honestly not even sure they intended.Never forget or forgive what they did to Jon the Chin
>>97084606They wrapped it up way too quickly and it seemed like by the end they just wanted to move on. This was after hyping it up for like 7 years. Pathetic and completely fumbled. It's too bad because so many of the ideas had a ton of potential
>>97084636>>97084639my favorite was how they literally went with the meme "plargg and nassari just got better"that and how jace also cured himsel by just yelling really loud
Are there really no more cards that reduce ability costs like Biomancers and Training Grounds?
>>97084550that's just too evil. wotc is MASSIVELY afraid of ugly, icky evil stuff. that's why for the last few years, every set was super safe, HR-approved marvel-like slop. too evil for wotc:>a marvel-like planeswalker dying>an open wound>a corpse>someone getting killed in general>any depiction of bloody combat>a character from a major franchise having their original skin color>sexy women>a skeleton commanderwotc approved evil:>a regular guy with a mustache grinning very holocaustly>a spooky transparent blue ghost with evil eyes and a zigzag mouth (DANGEROUS! WARNING! ALMOST TOO EVIL! CAUTION!)>depicting the equivalent of a coworker from HR wearing some ugly dress>old men (WARNING! WARNING!)
>>97084687Here you go
>>97084687Heartstone
>>97084710>>97084719Thanks!
>>97084691>sexy womenAre there any evil sexy women from the previous era of wotc? Asking for a friend.
>>97083403Ever tried building Yosei, or brewing around white spellslinger for keks? Yosei is the closest I got to a strong white deck but it still feels too slow.>>97083768This here is all good advice. Also cards like brought back are funny with fetches.
>>97084773Liliana for one.
>>97084773terese nielsen's "good" sexy women look a little evilhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=artist%3A%22terese+nielsen%22&unique=cards&as=grid&order=namemind the tummy
>>97084832All the old planeswalkers were cuties, Jeska, Serra, Nissa, Nahiri, Chandra, Elspeth... hell, I would probably even monstergirls like Wrenn and Vraska.
>>97084864I see how it is.
>>97082685Maybe. Green blue was the only color pair that got its shockland but no legendary.Lorwyn's shockland's color pairs all are going to focus on a tribe.
So I play an equipment and it auto equips to the Ally token?
>>97079998>AI sloppasister you dropped you hormones
>>97084943yes it's free living weapon/job select/etc for all equipment you play
>>97083691Never buy from LGS. They rip people off. Period.>NOOOO MY PRECIOUS SMALL BUSINESSSmall businesses are run by pricks
>>97084773The previous art head really liked women's hips/thighs, and early early wotc art liked tittiesIt's the current art head that's scared of little timmy seeing a womanly figure
>>97084943I'd never be able to use this card with the dumb cartoon network looking expression on the guys face. People really feel this fits a MTG aesthetic?
worth?
>>97084950For research, would we have any example of best thighs and best titties in the game? Which guild, shard or wedge has the sexiest cards?
>>97084955I'd rather have that then this even though Slicer is a fun commander
>>97084955Honestly the art makes me not want to build it so I get you
https://scryfall.com/card/tle/249/earthbending-studentwhat the fuck why is this card 30 dollars
>>97084969>Tfw bought a foil for 8Maybe I should sellAnyway it's a desirable card that's only in the jumpstart pack that's it
>>97084969uncommon from jumpstart/specialty product only. Uncommons are unironically harder to obtain than most rares because of how they shifted the pack rates and how many uncommons there are to rares
>>97084969Supply and demand.
>>97084969>Land creatures you control have vigilanceYou attack. Then you can tap later for mana.
Print it
>>97084969Goes apeshit with Ashaya
>>97084964Why? Slicer isn't making a dumb face and it's the same art style.
>finally get around to making a bracket 4 deck, toph, hardheaded teacher land destruction deck>go to commander night, pod agrees to a bracket 4 game>as soon as I start going off they start bitching about land destruction >point out that bracket 4 is literally the bracket where it belongs >one starts whining that it should be cedh only>same person who is constantly pulling out his bracket 4 deck in bracket 2 podsGod fucking forbid I play a disruptive strategy in a fucking bracket 4 pod. Do bracket 4 fags just want to sit around and play solitaire and see who's netdecked greedpile happens to combo off first or some shit?
>>97084955the funny thing is, sokka is more based and suki is cuter than anything wotc shat out in the last couple of years
>>97085026I once brought my lmao monkey banana deck. everyone was laughing. then I started to drop MLD on t4
>>97085067You mean character wise?
>>97085119no, uncle iroh was the wise one
>>97085125listen here you little shit
>>97085026Never play in bracket 4. In any game with competitive modes, either perceived or officially sanctioned, the tier just below "competitive" is always chock full of wannabes and never-was's, and also-rans. Most people playing a game either play casually or play competitively, and they accept the limitations and consequences of that decision. But there exists a type of person who is really competitive but also plainly not good enough to be really competitive, either because they're unwilling to improve to get to that level or they're just genuinely shit at the game.
>>97084943>The other couples are all doing something cute and like looking at each other >Sokka is doing this goofy ass thing where he's dropping the scroll or whatever Yeah this is really a shame and a poor decision especially because they are the most buildable card of that entire box
>>97085188Momo stole the scroll dog its not cool!
>playing azulahttps://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesse>turn 4 cast azula>have no other permanents>swing azula>electro dominance for X=5>radiant performer the original>twinning staff x2, sakashima x4, blue spirit x15 +draw, reverberate x15 on electrodominance>45 electrodominance X for 5 on the stack>still have dozens of other ways to instantly win>win instantly on turn 5holy shit, is Azula just crazy? I didn't think this was a 4
>>97085220yes azula is kill on sight
>What wizards probably thought Azula would be: Oh I attack and I play 2 buff spels :)>What Azula actually is: Kaalia 2.0
>>97085067I too love bad cartoons
>>97085026>bracketsYou are using a system designed to support rule sharks and angle shooters like you experienced. Stop using them
>>97085236She seems extremely overrated.
>>97085220>play against control deck>fucked because they countered your commander, then kill spelled it the next cast, then countered the nextAnd yes, I always have it because I run like 15 counterspells
>>97085266ah, a fellow superfriends deck player
>>97085229>>97085236Besides the Christmas land scenario described above it really doesn't seem that busted, you have an extremely small window to cast and double everything
Is this the hollow knight commander
>>97085184I play my cEDH decks against bracket 4 and just tell them to step it upI play my bracket 2 against bracket 3s so we can have a fun time
>>97085363no, it's the chinese cuisine commander
>>97085398>InsectMore Latin American
>>97085363careful invoking that, we might actually get a hollow knight miniset
>>97085401no, pretty sure it's chinese, no soupa de macaco her
>>97085379How frequently can your local bracket 4 players actually step it up? Versus how frequently do you have a good time playing in bracket 2?
>>97085405Actually?
>>97085405That would be preferable to many other UB sets
>>97085363>2027>Bloomburrow:into the nest>knight insects>bee or ant as a separate meme tribe, obligatory recon for old cards>Maha's egg hatches into din do nuffin villain eaten all dem bugsCap this post.
>>97085440..... Actually a pretty based idea anon
>>97084956>4 mamaI'd rather kill myself
>>97085220>Doubles all spells>All spellsWhy did they print this
>>97085460probably because also needing a flash enabler is enough of a barrier to also doing it with anything that's not balanced for instant speed, but also to get you to have fun by trying to do it anyway.
>>97085487It does look fun
>Izzet does dumb shit
>>97085487good thing there's no good cards with flash
>retard crying about someone looping an extra turn twice>next game immediately bust out my worldfire deck to infuriate them moreWhiny cunt.
>>97085499it's grixis because apparently flash as a french vanilla keyword is considered primary in dimir or something weird?>>97085509cards with flash are costed to have flash
>>97085460Because they fired playtest, and they need to print booster fun to sell packs.
>>97085527The other half of azula's text may as well read "Spells you cast with flash cost 2 less."
>>97085539well, you know, just the first spell with flash you cast each turnjust on your turnsif she attacked that turnwhile she's attackingit's fine.
>>97085539ONE spell you have with flash costs 2 less
>>97085220>I'm going to attack with Azula>Before you go to combat I pay one White
>>97085592You don't always have it.
>>97085584And only if it's red
>>97085599I Occasionally Have It>>97085602costs RR less to cast (this can reduce generic costs)
>>97085599I will always have one removal in my opening hand with how my deck is made.And I'm going to hold it just for you.
>>97085614She will only give you red mana. You can't pay blue or black cards with that unfortunately.
>>97085622anon I can use red mana to play a spell that costs 2UB
>>97085615OK Brennan Lee Mulligan
>>97085487Homie, bro, home slice, dawg...There are approximately four hundred cards in grixis that read "Cast a spell off the top of your opponent's library"
>>97083040Flicker always plays the same of two ways. Valuepile with no wincon or stax combo.t. actually played every flicker/blibk commander to date.
>>97083405>precon is 70 bucks msrpHuh? It's literally half that.
>>97085680Can't you combo-kill with gary or warstorm surge or something?
When are we going to get the Mistborn set? I hope Vin is an esper blink commander.
>>97083355>You can't build a bracket 2 deck with proxieswhat?
>one friend plays honest grixis reanimator>second friend plays selesnya token bullshit>third friend plays esper lifelink with all the bullshit you can think of like bolas's citadel, necropotence, 2 card combos>deal successfully with friend 2+3 by playing aggro and sometimes (sea monsters-) bounce, because their decks are slowI'm getting bored of aggro tho. I need something new, but it should be able to deal with retarded enchantments and mass token creature tactics. any suggestions?
>>97085693did you know that "mist" in german means "trash"?
>>97085731Uril, the Trashstalker
>>97085693the fuck is mistborn?
>LGS 1>biggest shop in the area>next to three colleges so high density of trains/pink undercuts/"they/them" pins>lots of 2- or 3-man statics>seems to be the lowest power (undershoot brackets)>no entry fee and if you fill out your slighty scrubby point objectives sheet every week for a month you might win store credit>draft night gives out store credit in addition to prize packs but EDH does no wotc EDH events and gives out no promos>LGS 2>biggest warhammer tablespace in the area>swingy power within bracket>big canlander venue that means some people swap from 4-player EDH>five bucks to play EDH, as credit to buy any pack in stock>gives out the current promo plus a random one from the backlog>LGS 3>big but not populated on EDH day>populated entirely by middle aged men (somehow no less annoying, overheard one guy saying that his spider-girl should be "[his] trans queen" because of a movie)>sports on wheel-in widescreen>fairly accurate power on bracket outside a couple of meme-able god openings>five bucks to play EDH, as credit at the in-store restaurant>no events and old promos>LGS 4>not an official shop, has EDH on friday night instead of sunday>lots of people who play several cardgames, makes it hard to get a pod for the whole night>anime on mounted widescreen>owner is a 7' gay dude who shouts slurs across the store in front of 14yos>closedpick my poison
>>970857711. With 4 being the worst
>>970857714 > 2 > 3 > 1
>>970857712>3>1>4
>>97085771>>owner is a 7' gay dude who shouts slurs across the store in front of 14yosHow to get arrested
>>97084530Yup.>>97085026Tell them to it's bracket 4 and in the rules and they agreed so less QQ and more pew pew.
>>97085771>StaticsPick 1, you'll be right at home you XIV faggot
>>97085828ummm ackshually sir did you not read the part about intent?
>>97085779>>97085782>>97085783this is funny to me>>97085793"It's fine. I'm not calling anyone a faggot, I'm just saying the word."-t. the third gayest man imaginable>>97085833I'm sorry you understood what I meant.
Can I get thoughts on this. I get he adds to scrying but I always thought it was kind of wasted deck space and I can just do top deck manipulation.
>>97085771I am Anon Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question.Is a man not entitled to the fun of his game?'No!' says the jew in WotC, 'It belongs to the brown skinned.''No!' says the troon in the LGS, 'It belongs to the communists.''No!' says the feminist online, 'It belongs to the ugly women.'I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different.I chose the impossible. I chose... playing with friends.An apartment in the city where the player would not fear the mentally ill censor.Where the player would not be bound by petty morality.Where the great would not be constrained by the small!And with the sweat of your brow, playing with friends can become your fun as well.
>>97085912>I'm sorry you understood what I meant.I am too.
>>97085912clearly it means you have to go to store 3, never listen to 4chan
>>97085912>"It's fine. I'm not calling anyone a faggot, I'm just saying the word.">-t. the third gayest man imaginableEnjoy your 1 star review on google lmfaoI'd punch his lights out with my keys in my knuckles
>>97085932>No said the retarded /pol/tard. It belongs to the people who don't play
>>97085680In a way, you're kind of right, but the different cards that make up that composition make the decks play and feel totally different. For example I've got:>Mono W AbdelComfy straightforward flicker deck. Wins with Moonshaker, Altar of the Brood, or Parallax Wave combo. It is a valuepile, with a density of cantrip and removal creatures, but it's comfy as hell to play.>B/W AbdelBigger focus on enchantments to the point of being pseudo enchantress, reanimator subtheme(graveyard), and Hoarding Broodlord lines. Feels totally different from the mono W deck.>Boros AbdelMUCH faster than the others, artifact focus with Weapons Manufacturing. Combo density, and can win out of nowhere piss easy without comboing. The speed and aggression of the deck make it feel significantly different than the others.>AminatouEsper control. Much slower and more oppressive than the others. Just feels like an esper control deck with more creatures. Very grindy obviously. Distinct from the others.>Hinata SpellsArcheomancer.dec. This one is more of a tempo deck. Heavy focus on flash and flash enablers like Scout's Warning. Venser is one of the best creatures in the deck for example. Heavy focus on spellslinger. Wins with various combos like dualcaster, also Mana Echoes since almost every creature in the deck is a human, you can win off X spells or infinite bounce. Even run Labman to draw off of Sicarian Infiltrator. I get your point, but I've made an effort to distinguish them because there are forms of flicker I'd like to explore. The decks really do feel different to pilot and to play against.
>>97085981>said the retarded /pol/tard commie when found out and proceeded to fight people online who dare to not like the defilement of a community that once didn't care about punching people over politics or cutting off their genitalia
>>97085932Unfortunately I don't have friends/that play/that still play/nearby.>>97085955I feel like my intent was misinterpreted, maybe I should have made fun of WoW; should I refer to my commanders as 'toons'?>>970859584 is getting way more hate than I expected, and I didn't even mention the owner's multiple dogs in the store
>>97086022>Unfortunately I don't have friends/that play/that still play/nearby.good luck then playing the unholy dregs of society. maybe you find someone with your problems and you can become friends.
>>97085932You don't have any friends, you don't have the time, you need to cry on the interwebs about the fall of the western world to the danger hairs.
I have six decks that play the same but with different colors and wincons.Graaz Unstoppable Juggernaut is in four of them.Hope of Ghirapur is in all six.
>Behind 3 land drops>Managed to make an 8/8 though>Opponent keeps goading my creature>We are all behind the player goading>Attack the player with more life to minimize losses on board>They remove my creature instead of the thing goading it or chump blocking it>Next strongest thing gets goaded>Be completely out of the rest of the game.I fucking wish people would make deals instead of just fucking doing shit
I can't wait for the TMNT episode on Command Zone. I wonder what commanders they'll play!
>>97086042>found out, the mentally ill commie projects his shortcomings onto others as hard as possibletale as old as time. this is the life cycle of the average commie: first he tries to cut other people. then he tries to cut his dick. in the end, he cuts his own neck. remember: a commie life is completely worthless, and it is the duty of every healthy man to drive them out of your hobbies right into suicide.
>>97086056NOOOOO! TMNT IS UNAPPROVED UB! GIVE ME APPROVED UB LIKE QUENCHY SOKKA AND ROUGH BUDDY ZUKO
>>97086066That's rough buddy
>>97085916F-followin up...
>>97086073SPARKY SPARKY BOOMS
I actually just want this first effect.Is there a budget option I can use for something like this? Doesn't need to be lifelink, just any way to gain life off of dealing damage or through combat in mono-black.Exquisite Blood would be the obvious answer but I'd prefer something under $5.
>>97086055>win so often, friends start to just remove my ship no matter my board state>behind land drops, no board, token player in the process of making 8x 4/4 flying angels per turn>golgari player brings out alpa deathclaw to destroy two of my lands>we both die two turns later to 16 angelssome people are just incredibly stupid. when I started to switch to explosive decks (one rakdos, one grull, one big black mana), on my first evening I had a 100% win rate because I had nothing they could remove before it was too late, and since they all play slow decks, I was still faster on my explosive turn and easily killed them with retarded shit like gary drop into 20 devotion or 20+ haste lifelink attack into 2 vitos or haste quad power into chandra's ignition etc.
>>97086083Does it have to be all creatures? Because there's a bunch of equipment that gives lifelink if you only need it on one creature.
>>97086095It's go wide aggro so yeah, preferably all creatures.Tempted to run this piece of shit, even.
>>97086083your best bet is cheap equipment and auras, and besides shadowspear, they are quite underwhelming.
>>97086083Monoblack vamp tribal. Most have lifelink. Vito as the commander turns it into damage
>>97086097>go wide lifelinkdoes that even exist outside of some white lifelink creature token shenanigans?
>>97086083alchemist's assistant, renew then proliferate and move counters aroundsyphon sliver (throatseeker, crossway troublemakers, circle of power, lo and li), need way to modify creature typesblood thirsty conqueror, but thats just the exquisite bond situationnon-permanents like cruel feeding or cutthroat maneuver, only for one turn
>>97086120You'd be better off just stocking up on soul sister effects and getting 15 life for a single make 3 token spell
>97086061Didn't even read. Sorry chud.
>>97086083>>97086097whip, vito's activated ability, attacks alone or is the only creature you control, or tribal options (slivers, vampires, demons, nobles (new))
>>97086128Whom art thou quoteth?
>>97086132>vito's activated abilitynta but lmao I keep forgetting about it. vito is such a darling, he really cares.
>>97085916Have you tried Planetarium of Wan Shi Tong?
>>97085793For what
>>97086086>some people are just incredibly stupid.Thats the fucking infuriating part, the motherfucker is smart and can build crazy ass decks but cannot read boardstates and will NEVER discuss deals or do any of the social aspects of commander. I've tried to make social decks before but none of my friends want to fuck with that shit at all.
>>97085973Is this really what the new breed of 4channelers is like?
>>97086158he's not smart than. engaging with the greatest threat is completely disconnected from politics. my friends will routinely make deals like showing their hand to another player to convince them to leave them alone for now, or letting someone else draw so in return they will remove an opponent's threat. in my case, I have a two very dumb friend who got burned by my aggro decks. their understanding of me became >this guy evil. grug can never trust evil.but they will still strike deals with me when they are down on luck. people who don't engage in politics at all are mentally ill.
>Love mill>Make mill deck>People get mad at mill because they don't get the cards they want>Make mill but forced draw deck>still get mad
>>97086155I have it I just think the 6 cost is incredibly high. For it too bee effective I need to ramp while protecting my board and have cards to scry. And realistically I only have 5-6 cards that scry.I can add more ways to scry but it ends up taking more and more deck spacee that can go to ramp/creatures and just feels like a mana sink. It is kind of weird there arent more sea monsters that scry consistently.
>>97086167>hating retarded faggots>shitting on faggots online>newsup tourist, first day?
>>97086192>>97086155Like these are the ONLY sea monsters that scry. Theres some merfolk that do that but Ken doesnt work on those.
>>97086190>use minor mill/graveyard strategies in all my decks>mill player turns up>instantly team up and promise to kill the other two first as long as he provides me with that delicous mill50% win rate together with a millbro is always fun
>>97086190The problem with these decks is they are an attack on potential. People see what they COULD do, or plan on what they MIGHT do only for those plans to be eliminated. They see their potential actions and resource acquisition diminishing. "Aww man there goes my [Card]" or "Man I was hoping I'd draw [Thing]" It's a psychological reaction to this sort of loss. Kind of flavorful honestly. Anyway, that's why people tend to get so upset. If they were better deck builders it would be less of an issue. Lesson to run more recursion I guess.
>guy has no board after his goblin electromancer gets sacrificed >”sorry, you are open” - gets swung at for 3>”you should always swing at me”>combos out on his turn>none of us playing blue so we are demoted to the kiddies table>’teferi’s protection!’>’heroic intervention!’>literally just casts over them, buried in the stack, they dont resolve>responds to smothering tithe and sheoldred triggers, effectively burying immune to them>ends the gameIve never seen such horseshit. It’s one thing to counterspells, but he just kept copying spells and never letting anything other than his shit resolve. He didnt even have any triggers of his own.
>>97086190>give card access>REEEEE
>>97086190>play with retards>have to deal with retards
>>97086219>They see their potential actions and resource acquisition diminishing>20 cards in everyone's handTHERE IS NO WINNING
>>97086219I mean you can only have so much recursion and theres a good chance it will get milled considering theres several "mill half you deck" cards. I dont mind it as I dont rely on infinite combos, I think thats the worse thing about magic coming from yu gi oh.
>>97086246Have you seen how much this general hates group hug?
>>97086251cedh players are bitchkings, and their opinions are meaningless. The masses hate group hug because the player is a little bitch, playing reddit group hug bumbleflower. Not chad Ragnar show and tell omniscience cast forced fruition then fractured identity omniscience.
>>97086195Ya bro thats totally what's going on here and not some pearl clutching retard being some retarded Puritan cause a guys saying no no words in front of teenagers.
>>97086269This general hated group hug before Bumbleflower existed
>>97086273Its the same vibe, the ‘group hug’ offers draws or some meaningless tokens then acts pissy when they are targeted and gives a decent amount of draw to one person, which typically doesnt matter, but their attitude is shitty
>>97086022>I feel like my intent was misinterpretedI'm not the one who chose your words.
>grixis grouphug>t2 gogo w/ sol ring>t3 dark rit, descent into avernus, pain distributor >t4 4x gogo copy on descent>12 damage, 12 treasures>wheel>hold return the favor, removal>mexican stand off
>>97086271ya bro you are totally not the pearl clutching retard here who gets flustered by people on 4chan being the same since 2 decades
>jeweled lotus unabanned>rofellos unbanned>prime time unbannedThe amount of explosive turn one plays would absolutely skyrocket.You could get turn 1 prime time coming down. Insane.
>>97086364Do people enjoy this?
>>97086370Its literally what CEDH is. Who can combo off turn 1 or 2 first.
>>97086377Do normal people enjoy this?*
>>97086377wrong, it's who can combo off last
>>97086364
>>97086381competitive commander is cringeso no
>>97086364Dockside should get unbanned too
>>97086384Explain how a Marwyn deck will have 31 mana for that on turn 2. I don't believe it.
Roff banned while Kinnan exists is a joke. Same amount acceleration with a pay-off and better color access.
>>97086384Rofellos is an ugly card I refuse to put into my deck. If they make an anime or cute girl version I will get it.
>>97086409>calling this zesty elf uglyFucking zoomers, I swear.
>>97086417weebs want something that looks like a child
What is the best Avatar deck?
>>97086420where's her penis
>>97086384This is a funny post because I feel like it's both correct and incorrect at the same time I miss Demo he used to go on rants about how inconsistent the ban list was
>>97086242blasting some cunt through t*feri's protection is the most based thing you can do in this shitpile of a game.
>>97086442This is why I don't go to the LGS
>>97086442based
this is kind of a stupid thing to complain about but i really, really hate how casual players performatively pretend like banding is some impossible to understand mechanic
>>97086442Zuko
>>97086466Unrelated but Mutation to this day confuses the shit out of me
>>97086486it's not confusing just bad
I'm thinking about making a Golgari food focused brawl deck using Camellia and the new cabbage cards. Would it be worth trying? Ive never made a brawl/commander deck before.
>>97086489Thats true. They should errata it so that the mutated creature has the sum of their power and toughness.
>>97086466yup ive been running some banding recently and it's demonstrated a lot of people running $250+ decks don't even know how basic combat steps proceed.
>>97086466its a stupid ass mechanic. it was bad even considering when it came out. I think the problem is no one learns bad mechanics because theres just no reason to. Theres plenty of everyday mechanics used that are a lot more over complex than banding
>>97086514banding is a good mechanic.
>>97086466Probably because there isn't a single card with banding printed on it worth using so nobody ever sees it. Banding is actually a reasonable combat keyword that effectively cucks trample dead but everything using it is so hilariously powercrept out of the game that it just doesn't matter. Regenerate falls into this willful retardation too.
>>97085525>Earthbend on a couple ping deserts>Cast Worldfire>Win the game off desert pings
>>97086525>Probably because there isn't a single card with banding printed on it worth usingWhat do you mean, anon? You just give every legendary banding. There's one of these for each color.
>>97080969Can you elaborate on what these work aside from aristocrats?
>>97086556artifact aristocrats
For literal years i've been triyng to make a "steal things from your opponent's deck" deck work, but i always fail, and the point of failiure is always that i'm fundamentally going trough one more step. I need to play cards that steal things, then i need to play those things. My opponents just... play their things. I'm always behind, it's always too slow, even for my pod that plays bracket 2, sometimes even just precons. I think i need a commander like pic related, who actively adds to the board while stealing or something, because cards like Don Andres, Jasper Flint, Xanathar, Nathan Drake, Sultai Gonti never seem to work
>>97086604I just built my Don Andres deck, how fucked am I?
>>97086572I did that onceIt sucked
>>97086604https://moxfield.com/decks/fK-G8v3N0k2QYIrE6HB_oAthis deck was alright but I didn't enjoy it
>>97086606I gave up on Andres because the deck just doesn't do anything. You play shit like old Gonti, Thief of Sanity, whatever, steal their cards to cast later. But now you spent your entire mana on some ineficient creatures that give you the opportunity to play their good cards, while they're just playing good cards to begin with. So now you spend even more mana to play their good cards, except they're not as good in your deck because you won't have all the synergy. But your commander kind of helps by buffing the stolen shit or giving you some treasures, except he ends up being a four mana timewalk yourself do nothing most of the time. I mean your mileage may vary, but i just found it too slow even for my casual pod
>>97086606>>97086604Why do retards like steal so much?
>>97086618great post, really added to the discussion
>>97086621You're welcome
>>97086604Play Rev
>>97086616Reminds me of a friend that I had who built this. It never really did anything. He played a bunch of bad creatures to get a higher value for x and then didn't have the mana to cast our spells.Additionally it made him a major target depending on what he flipped
>>97086629Pretty much my problem and my experience with the archetype, yes. I think actually trying to win with your opponent's cards is fundamentally a losing proposition, which is why i think maybe Etrata would fair a bit better since she can cast their spells opportunistically as necessary rather than having it as the core gameplan. I just love Thief of Sanity too much, and have been trying to build the perfect home for it, but it just never works out
>>97086652Why steal when I can give my opponents my stuff instead
>>97086652Etrata is probably the best imo, for the reasons you mentioned, she's also super slept on because nobody paid any attention to mkm. I think she's the best in the archetype if I'm being honest and the morph mechanic adds a lot of mystery to it
they need to buff this
>>97086652Adding to this, unironically my ideal commander for the archetype would be "John spellstealer - UBR 1/1, Spells you cast but don't own cost 2 less to cast", would be absolutely perfect
>want to make deck>too lazy
>>97086663Then just run more ramp or steal from the green player first.
>>97086762>>97086762>>97086762friendly UB edition, tourist welcome
>cut a swamp for troll of khazad-dum>what could go wrong>draw a perfectly good hand with sol ring, 2 rocks, 3 draw spells and... >troll >peak ahead before mulligan>no lands for 3 turnsunreal
>>97084244it is, the reminder text is "exile this card then either cast for madness or send to graveyard"
>>97084943you play an equipment and it automatically creates a body to attach skullclamp to and draw 2 cards, yes
>>97084956its scales #3/5/7 but with a 3 mana blank 4/4 instead of it being directly attached to a creatureits safer than whispered hopes or the selesnya ones at least and arguably safer than the green ozolith, but doesn't provide anything close to what they do for the extra cost
