What kind of DM runs games for wheelchaired adventurers?
>>97084861If you absolutely have to have a wheelchaired character, at least have it be a cool wheelchair. Give it spider-legs, rocket boosters, tank treads. Something. This is just uninspired and lazy.
>>97084879If I was in a campaign with a crippled character I would play a cleric and then heal them out of spite.
>>97084954Sure, get your Cleric to 13th level for Regenerate to grow his legs back. That's a whole campaign, dude.
>>97084861this is so fucking stupid lmao
>>97084861Call od cthullu during the cold war, party consists od 4 wheelchaired Julius Evola esque racist esoterical caricatures
>>97084879It's been said over and over, but /tg/ and the TTRPG hobby at large is not against characters with disabilities. The problem is always boiled down to two major issues>1) The chair itself is boring as fuck, bordering on a fetish for modern wheelchairs that have no place in the various fictional worlds they're forced into, where far more inventive and interesting ideas could be used instead2) The wheelchair itself is so insanely overwrought mechanically, and made indestructible and empowering and equipped with so many special abilities and unique mechanics that make it objectively better than a normal character, while completely erasing the disability that it is meant for in a way that makes you wonder what the fucking point of playing a disabled character with none of the drawbacks of the disability.And with enough examination, the only conclusion anyone can reach about the damned things is that they are forced in as a purity test. The combat wheelchair, and similar fantasy cripple fetish material, is not about playing the game and creating a wider selection of options to add more variety to your game's fiction. It's there to be disruptive and cause problems, because they are after conflict and drama with players. It is a dare for you to step out of line and say something they can crucify you for.
>>97084954Nah, you want Druid for the 100% surefire fix. Reincarnate makes a brand new body, so unless their soul is cursed to be unable to walk, it'll fix any sort of injury, illness, or even birth defect. Also only a 5th level spell, so you don't even need to hit level 10 before you can pull it off.
>>97084879>>97085137Or how about this solution. A character who carries around a crippled character? Like Bran and Hodor in Game Of Thrones, or Master Blaster from Mad Mad. Two characters who are functionally one character.
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>>97085162I see your character concept and raise
>>97085162Literally anything except a magical indestructible, floating, protective wheelchair. The things the combat wheelchair can do, rules as written, are so ridiculous they should be a legendary magical item.
>>97084879For me, it's a paraplegic necromancer in a coffin carried by skeletons for all the style points.
>>97085204I raise another, if you would.
>>97084861>Be me>Evil Lich>Fill my dungeon with traps and monsters>Adventurers pass through all of them>Prepare a staircase for epic final presentation>Adventurers can't climb it>IGuessIWin.jpg>Get cancelled and accused of ableism
>>97084861One who likes to design herculean labors
>>97084861I played games with guys who always played characters who weren't their skin colour. We jumped through different games, then I finally asked why they weren't playing someone who looks like them. All three of them came back with the same answer. Why would I want to be someone who looks like me. They were fully able. I can't imagine someone who's shackled to a mobility aid wanting to be reminded of their feebleness.
>>97084861Why can't a cleric heal their legs?how in the hell is there a wheelchair druid at all? They roll around in the deep wilderness?
>>97084879Or just a mind controlled spider. Maybe some kind of horrible half a horse creation, or a wizard just magically attaches other legs on them.
>>97085137>It is a dare for you to step out of line and say something they can crucify you for.What that crowd, this is just about everything they do in all walks of life. Ordering a sandwich at Subway comes with lots of fucking with the employee and seeing if they might say a bad so they can have an excuse to unload on them.
>>97084861If it was a modern set->DMOh, probably some CR fan
>>97084879Why are you negotiating with them.
Five fucking years of this retarded shit...
>>97085842And it will continue till musk buys wizkids
>>97084954Great how long do you think it will take you to get access to the regenerate spell?
>>97085137If you DO play a disabled character who is actually inconvenienced by his disability, you are a "liability", "bringing down the party", "ruining the game", and so on. It was never about being inclusive, it was about tokenism and as you said, purity testing.Progressives HATE disabled people.
>>97084861You already have a thread. >>97076800
>>97085137They want the aesthetics of being a marginalized person without the actual experience. It's the same reason so many of them play tieflings.
>>97085920Elon should buy FATAL and develop For All Those Against Light (the planned third edition of FATAL) using the d20 system. I might do that myself if I have enough motivation.
If a GM is being nice to you, creating scenarios just for you or changing rules for you,it's becuase theyre grooming you. They want to fuck you and all your ugly friends, because they are a social reject. Grooming disabled people is exactly what I expect from ttrpg enjoyers.40k has been perfect in soaking up all the based hobbiests, allowing all the other hobbies to act as honeypots to attract and identifying degenerates.>MTG, Degenerates.>Model Railways, Degenerates.>Gunpla, Degenerates.>Napoleonics, Adrenochrome drinking Illuminati >ttrpg, Degenerates.>Bloodbowl, Degenerates.
>>97084973>>97085935Depends on the rules you play by. Some DMs and groups rule a 'Cure Light Wounds' or a 'Goodberry' cures any physical injury, like a broken spine. If you insist it's nerve damage, Cure Blindness is pretty low level, so a similar 'Cure a need for a wheelchair' spell could be available at lower levels. The 'You need a high level spell to cure my uniqueness!" is a pretty retarded restriction in a magical game of make believe and just feeds into the 'Look at me!' insistance of the people who play these characters.
>>97086725The Lingering Injuries table in the DMG is pretty clear and unambiguous on which spells cure what.
>>97084861It's a sliding scale of retardation;>I want to play a disabled character, not a cripple using sticks, but with a modern design wheelchair (made of wood)>I want to be just as able as a walking person when fighting, operating equipment and riding animals.>I want access through all muddy streets, rough terrain, through undergrowth, ditches, up and down stairs and steep slopes, while keeping both hands free.>My wheelchair should be indestructable, magical (but undispellable), unstealable and impossible to target by spells or sabotage and available to all 1st level characters played only by me.>I want to be able to bypass all traps set by the owners of a property designed to keep everyone out, such as moats, narrow corridors, vertical shafts. castle walls, pits, anti tank traps. etc.All while wanting to be treated as a normal person.
>>97086740Again, DEPENDS ON THE RULES YOU PLAY BY, you illiterate retard. Which edition, which game, what rules the players agree to play by (house rules etc). Read and digest a post before repying, you mongoloid.
>>97084861one who isn't a schizo? It's fine. Crippled characters and maiming (when shit happens in the game instead of them having it right out the gate) not only are pretty standard tropes in fantasy/sci-fi (think of the dozens of blind or one-armed swordsmen out there), they also let you do a lot of fun things if you're running a tighter game where you actually keep track of shit. Light supplies and climbing shit can be a very fun part of the game if you let it. >>97085162Man, as long as you've hired someone else to carry provisions, taking a wizard as your pack if probably gonna be more effective in the long run, and 100% is more fun
>>97084861A performatively woke one, that would happily clap or die at the party/corporation's demand.
>>97084861>wheelchairedWheelchair people can be healers, priests, witches, and sorcerers. But as swordsmen and archers they are not suitable
>>97084861>wheelchaired adventurers?They remind me of the alchemical transitional form from human to naga, nagas don't have legs, they have each a big snake tail instead of legs.
>>97084861no one, it's a marketing stunt. It's the woke equivalent of the Norman Rockwell-esque 50's billboard commercials
>>97085206Professor X have one of those.
I have seen a hundread threads about the combat wheelchair. I have seen Zero cases of actual real issues with their existance.Is just something you complain about all the time, but the issue never actually happens, is theoric anger.
>>97087265Every board is fiction, Anon. Treat this in the same way an old person treats gossip. It's spicy, shocking and infuriating but it's fake. You are merely here to be entertained by the outrage.Anyways how would a wheelchair barbarian even work? Get mad that you can't walk? LOL
>>97086964They could at least operate a light crossbow, I think.
>>97086770>IF I BREAK THE RULES I CAN LIVE MY FANTASY WHERE I OWN THE LIBS
>>97084861One that lets me do this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJLavwjY4xQ
>>97085842Yeah, it really fucking sucks.The people who wanted to push for wheelchairs in D&D should have just did what everyone who actually plays games does and work with their DM to make the game how they want, instead of dragging a bunch of people unwillingly into it and calling everyone who dared criticize it a villain.
>>97085162>>97085204> get a big burly guy to throw you at enemieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-rgJtV4s8
>>97087324litrally the best 5 minutes ever filmed in the history of cinéma
>>97086867>you're a schizo if you don't allow this ridiculous immersion breaking shitlmao
>>97087265>is theoric angergood morning sir!
>>97084861No, he did not use his feet--like a smart man, he used a wheel. But, just the same! Can you question who's to blame?
>>97084861On one hand, it is incredibly stupid the more you think about it.On the other hand, its just a game and if someone wants their character to be in a wheelchair, why the hell not?
>>97087912Stairs might be an issue, but a proper group can work something out.
>>97084861I feel like it's for the crowd that uses DnD as an excuse to hang out on Discord and not people who are doing traditional dungeon crawls and epic quests.
>>97086740That's true. But the only thing that lower level spells won't cure is missing limbs. And if you're missing a leg, then there's also already rules for magical Prosthetic Limbs to replace them as a common magic item, so still no reason to bother with a wheelchair.And as mentioned up the thread, a Reincarnate spell also fixes anything and everything. Buying a 5th level scroll is of similar cost to buying a set of full plate. Pricey, but also entirely achievable by around level 5-6. If you need to break the rules in order to justify why low/mid-level magic can't fix you, then you're not even playing D&D anymore. It's a high-magic system where fixing such things is starts as easy and becomes trivial as you gain levels.
>>97084861You need to understand, this retardation is from their Burger King kids club diverse mentality.>setting with clerics and druids and mages and so on permitting healing that is accessible to adventurersEasy fix - have there be no guarantee of said healing being accessible to Commoner, Craftsmen or Merchants. Campaign starts with Commoners that earned a living through plying their skill and thus affording wheeled chairs. Apply some creativity and make it so they're bound to adventure even though by all rights they're lame.Make them tinkerers and toymakers and seamers, not true artificers. Still, ranged gear only. Ditch that mace and axes, they're dead meat if they get into melee. Limitations like this could greatly flavour a campaign, and they don't try thinking about it.Another fluff idea to set it up is to have the party be high level adventurers... but crippled at their peak, and being descendants of the inventor of anti-magic, never once in their careers had access to healing beyond natural salves and normal medicine. Picking up a lot of wounds across their careers, until the one that took away their ability to walk. Campaign begins with them volunteering to stay behind as a city is evacuated in the face of an invading horde, and them being high level and still deadly above the waist means every fight balances huge stat bonuses with crippling malii.Disabilities are negatives that serve really well for campaign and roleplay flavouring, not justification for whole new classes.>>97088284>prosthetic limbsForgot that was an option. But much the same goes on, I feel.
>>97086740>>97088539>>prosthetic limbs>Forgot that was an option. But much the same goes on, I feel.I actually went to double check, and it's even easier than that. The 'Lose a Leg' result from the injury table says "you must use a cane or crutch to move unless you have a peg leg or other prosthesis". According to the rules, RAW you don't even need a pair of fancy magical legs. Just carve up a set of sticks and the only downside is that you fall over if you Dash, and you have disadvantage on Dex checks to balance.Even if you wanted to say that two peg legs wouldn't work, that still means you could use a magical prosthetic to perfectly replace one leg, and then use a peg for the other.Modern D&D simply isn't the game for this sort of thing. It's like making a character whose motivation is to earn enough money to buy a draft horse for the family farm when the Fighter can start with a greatsword and armor worth twice what the horse would be. These sort of character tratits requires a more gritty low-fantasy system in order to actually pose a problem.
>>97085137gee thanks captain obvious
4 slaves to carry a palanquin."porters, carry me close to the enemy so that I can whack them with my whip!"Various sizes and options like armed guards available! The poorfag version is this >>97085162
>>97085162The party cripple wizard was funding the whole adventure and my Monk got an extra slice of the pie by carrying him around. Worth it desu.
>>97087284>Anyways how would a wheelchair barbarian even workprobably run into you really fucking fast, like a homeless guy in a shopping cart - just runs you the fuck over doing trample damage plus
>>97084879I made a wheelchair character once, based him off one of the old geezers from the discworld series, he had a cool magical powered wheelchair and the twist with him was that he could walk, he was just old and lazy unless he need to get up a flight of stairs
>>97084879I am a big fan of small weak character on the shoulder of big huge character.
>>97084861we're just not going to play jewish games is all
>>97089033https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiP4QXybXxc
>>97084861Technically, a 40K Dreadnought is a wheelchair.
"your party runs into a flight of stairs"
>>97091842*pulls out X-card*
>>97091818i see no wheels on that design, unless its white scars. >>97084861>all perched on tactical rocksThey're just pissing on us without even giving us the courtesy of calling it rain
>>97086964>as archers they are not suitableYou just gave me the idea of a crippled artificer perching himself on a wheeled ballista contraption. Lmao, drawing back the bolt is no problem because of the buff to arm strength.
>>97091911>1911 getWell, it would make sense that said artificer is the setting's own John Moses Browning.
>>97084861This might be the gayest most lamest miniature I have ever seen in my entire fucking life
>>97085920>Guy shits up everything that he buys>People want him to further enshittify companies he has no right in involving himself withOutside of blatant shitposting, why can't people just move on from D&D and find more niche ttrpg systems
>>97092005He literally mindbroke retarded trannies so bad they all left twitter and their new echochamber is barely used by anyone apart from themselves.
>>97092005Removing censorship is an objective improvement on Twitter, sorry you lost.
>>97092009The retards self-exiling themselves into Bluesky and how godawful they've made it for themselves over there is peak irony.>>97092010You're defending a dude who pays other people to boost his gaming accounts as well as paying women to have his IVF kids.
>>97085099Based af would play
>>97092052I'm defending the action of removing censorship, which is always a good thing actually.
>Of course I put ramps in the Black Tower of Mordor. I'm not a monster.
>>97084973If you think I can't play the long con to get 5 seconds of pure bliss ruining some wheelchair character's day you've got another thing coming. I will move mountains for spite.
>>97084879Enchanted greaves+sabatons, magical tattoos to restore function, a flying carpet, golem legs...Fuckers have a magical setting at their hands but noooo
>>97091864>x-cards your card
>>97092090But you want to censor wheelchairs.
>>97087284Discworld style. BTW Disworld is one of those settings in which combat wheelchairs are fully justified.
>>97084861how does the dwarf propell himself?
>>97084973>>97085935I know you based boys love this inclusive garbage and you make a fair point about only high level clerics being able to regenerate your useless legs but for argument ill ask how you defend the idea that the 10 strength rogue on the left of OPs picture is able to push a wheel chair made of solid steel and oak? Even if it is on flat terrain how do you think they go up slopes or through grass?
Has anyone done a concept of magic sabotens or something? Like a fantasy version of robot legs.
>>97094102>Right Axe in the back of Elf>Bring right arm back, pulling Dwarf forwards>Left Axe in the back of Orc>Bring left arm back, pulling Dwarf forwards>Right Axe in back of troll, >etc.Perpetual motion really.
>>97084861i WILL make your party roll checks to successfully change the catheter bag
>>97084861Out of these, the idea of a rogue in a wheelchair is probably the dumbest. Stealth is practically impossible with one of these, let alone nimble movement. The Mage doesn't even seem to be strapped in, so I'm assuming they're just lazy and are levitating the chair while they go to avoid walking or touching the ground like a peasant. So yeah, the two on the left are generally silly concepts. But - I think the two on the right are kinda fun. You have a dwarf fighter that gets crippled somehow in battle, but doesn't die from it. Now he's unable to actually go out raiding anymore, he's useless at the mines and the forges, and pretty much all he can do is drink and hold grudges (honorable pursuits, but not a way to achieve any glory or a place among the ancestors). So what do they do with Baronok - well now he's a sworn defender of the mountain. As long as there's peace, he's got an honorable position to hold in the community. And as soon as something tries to invade the mountain - well guess what, wheelchairs fucking roll down hill. Baronok gets to do a big kamikaze death, hurling himself down the mountain in a rapidly moving flurry of metal chairs and metal axeblades, and dies in glory taking out a whole line of humans trying to climb up a narrow mountain pass. It's a win for everyone. And for the cleric, while I don't have as much of a concrete idea - the general essence of clerics sacrificing or binding themselves as part of their servitude is imo a pretty common and easy to implement idea. Clerics who blind themselves can see glimpses into the future etc. same kind of deal. So the guy on the right there fucked his legs up on purpose, and that's the only way you get to be a cleric of So-and-so - and there's an in-universe reason why he doesn't heal - 1 he doesn't want to get it fixed, if he did he'd lose all his powers and end up being just an old guy, and 2 his god wouldn't let him anyways, that's fucking blasphemy.
>>97084861crippled ones?
>>97084861Do you really you have to post about this topic every month so you can get the same exact fucking thread with the same carbon copy responces EVERY TIME. Fucks sake tg is just full of bots.
>>97098014yes, that's how he gets to virtue signal that he's not a "lib tard"
>>97084861I take zero issue with it, as long as we have worked out if/how it causes any complications. Since I communicate with my players, I don't have to worry about someone just walking up to my table with a character I don't know how to accommodate when the game starts.I have run games and played in games where characters were physically disabled or debilitated in some fashion. Sometimes, that's just a thing that people are, so why not your fantasy characters sometimes?
>>97084879Nah. Gnome or goblin Caviler that practically never dismounts and uses his beast as his legs.
>>97084879Whoa buddy, not everyone needs to reinvent the wheel
