>>97092539
>Stormcast are the poster boys
Well sure, but marines are even more so and afaik they're not in darktide. I can see *a* stormcast in an aos vermintide clone, but not 5 of them lol.
>>97092548
>tq
Mhmm, I like most of the common ideas put out there honestly, at least the ones I can think of right now. I guess maybe shitmob foot infantry? I feel like being all mounted is their schtick for now.

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Does anyone have that piece of artwork where it's a stormcast, probably a knight questor, standing on a floating disc or platform and there's a path in the darkness leading to an an shadowy eye in the center of the frame. And there's a lord of change on either side of him. Could be two lords of change I don't remember well.

>TQ
More fucking bugs for sylvaneth. I hate them, they're fucking cringe and arent cool at all. I really dont like the backpacks either, it fringes on gloomspite and nurgle territory. Its fine for the ever-queen and the treelords but good fucking lord are the riders and drychas shit is so fucking lame when you have literal fucking ghost trees commanding them. Like how am I supposed to feel anything about a horde of bees?

>>97092570
enemies have to be challenging. Stormcast are, and you can feel their plight if you give them some decent dialogue during encounters as to hints of their personalities. Shit you can even rip off the nemesis system to have them recognize you or something.

>>97092569
you're thinking of the silver tower art.

>>97092586
>Shit you can even rip off the nemesis system to have them recognize you or something.
pretty sure you can't for legal reasons or something

>>97092548
Flamers
They are probably the ugliest model gw still sells, but also there is no way that new ones would be any better

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>>97092569

>>97092597
I think the tow beastmaster is worse. Fucking expensive too since it's metal.

>>97092610
I love how all the greater demons, including the fucking ceiling, are like "what the fuck?" at the guy just coming through the front door

>>97092645
I like the giant gaunt summoner telling the knight questor to remain quiet in the livrary

>>97092610
I like that the two headed loc is holding tossing dice in his hands

>>97092548
9/10 chaos ideas are bad

>>97092610
Yes this one. Thanks!


>>97092548
I hope spiderfangs doesn't get squatted.
Spider riders and the giant spider multibuild kit derserve to exist. and don't break thems. if anything just put regular moonclan on top instead of naked loincloth gobbos

>>97092886
*and don't break theme

>>97092562
Foot infantry would facilitate a squig herd style unit but no, they're not perpetually in motion and have cave homes. It's flanderisation like expecting every Moonclan to ride a Squig.
Even BCR in AoS 1e had the Icebrow Hunter and they were defined by mandatory motion

Man I actually love vorns lore but I have no idea how im gonna fix that face of his. Maybe filing down his fangs would help?

>>97092910
Vorn's the beast guy?

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lmao goofy ass nigga

>>97092914
yeah

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>>97092932
I thing the fangs are fine. If anything he'd look dumber with a toothless open mouth

>reviewer says he opened the map book six or seven times and it's already showing weakened binding
made in UK quality

>>97092910
paint the face up to the moustache as a metallic mask attached to the circlet

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Your bedroom door simply won't look complete without a Helsmiths of Hashut coin superglued to it.

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Turns out each act deck has character cards and they differ across the three. The characters outside the main four lack act I cards

>>97093011
So the normie gang walks in and meets woodland criter guys along the way?

>>97093044
There's no story for them joining or anything but yeah

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Does this 1k list make sense or should I nix the flies for more blightkings? Keep the priest or swap him for a sorcerer and give a hero the priest trait?

1k 990/1000 pts
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Grand Alliance Chaos | Maggotkin of Nurgle | Plague Cyst
General's Handbook 2025-26
Drops: 3
Prayer Lore - Bendictions of Sickness
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General's Regiment
Lord of Afflictions (170)
• General
• Corpulent Avalanche
• Rustfang
Pusgoyle Blightlords (210)
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Regiment 1
Lord of Blights (140)
Putrid Blightkings (190)
Rotmire Creed (130)
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Regiment 2
Harbinger of Decay (150)
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Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
App: v1.22.1 (2) | Data: v363

>>97092925
lel that's goofy as fuck, pretty cool though

>>97092925
>>97093067
I don't get the joke

>>97093070
what's there (not) to get? He uses his guts hanging out as a lasso to pull you closer.

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>>97093070
>see enemy
>drop axe
>fish out intensities
>form a lasso knot
>whirl and throw around a hero

obscuring is being changed

Blades of Khorne
Bloodsecrator 120 (-10)
Bloodstoker 80 (-20)
Realmgore Ritualist 120 (-10)
Slaughterpriest 120 (-10)
Skullreapers 170 (-10)
Skull Cannon 130 (-20)

Hedonites of Slaanesh
Blissbarb Archers 160 (+10)
SOG Slaangor Fiendbloods 160 (+10)
Symbaresh Twinsouls 130 (+10)

Helsmiths of Hashut
Daemonsmith on Infernal Taurus 300 (-20)
Anointed Sentinels 150 (-10)
Bull Centaurs 200 (+10)
Dominator Engine with Bane Maces 160 (-10)
Dominator Engine with Immolation Cannons 180 (-10)

Flesh-eater Courts
Abhorrant Archregent 140 (-10)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist 360 (+10)
Morbheg Knights 170 (-10)
Royal Terrorgheist 240 (+10)
Royal Zombie Dragon 250 (+10)
Stronger in Madness 10 (+10)
Savage Beyond Reason 10 (+10)
Revered Monstrosity 10 (+10)
Savage Abomination 10 (+10)

Nighthaunt
Dreadscythe Harridans 200 (-10)
Grimghast Reapers 200 (-10)
Pyregheists 180 (+30)

Gloomspite Gitz
Boingrot Bounderz 120 (+10)
Rockgut Troggoths 190 (+10)
Squig Herd 110 (+10)
Sunsteala Wheelaz 140 (+20)
wheelaz more 2d6 instead of 12"

>>97093182
obscuring only works for units with under 10 health

Daughters of Khaine
SOG Bloodwrack Shrine 260 (+10)
SOG Krethusa 280 (+20)
Fyreslayers
Auric Runefather 120 (-20)
Auric Hearthguard 120 (-10)
Auric Runesmiter 100 (-20)
Scales of Vulcatrix 20 (+10)
Droth-helm 20 (+10)

Kharadron Overlords
Arkanaut Company 100 (+10)
Endrinriggers 130 (+20)
Skywardens 140 (+10)
Vongrim Harpoon Crew 120 (+10)
Vongrim Salvagers 130 (+10)
(ROR) Sky-port Profiteers 360 (+30)

Stormcast Eternals
Celestant-Prime 240 (-30)
Drakesworn Templar 400 (-40)
Ionus Cryptborn 360 (-20)
Karazai 440 (-20)
Krondys 520 (-40)
Knight-Azyros 100 (-20)
Knight-Draconis 200 (-30)
Knight-Questor 90 (-20)
Lord-Celestant on Dracoth 140 (-20)
Lord-Vigilant on Morrgryph 200 (-20)
Iridan the Witness 230 (-30)
Neave Blacktalon 280 (-20)
Vandus Hammerhand 140 (-30)
Yndrasta 260 (-30)
Aetherwings 70 (-10)
Gryph-Hounds 80 (-10)
Praetors 130 (-10)
Stormcoven 180 (-30)
Vanguard-Hunters 100 (-20)
Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows 100 (-10)
Vindictors 80 (-20)
Concussors 200 (-10)
Desolators 180 (-10)
Fulminators 190 (-20)
Questor Soulsworn 210 (+10)
Stormdrake Guard 290 (-20)
Stormstrike Palladors 180 (-10)
Vanguard-Palladors with Shock Handaxes 230 (-20)
Envoy of the Heavens 0 (-20)
Beacon of Azyr 20 (+20)
Stormreach Portal 0 (-20)

>>97093182
sure thing faggot

>>97092925
greenstuff a cowboy hat on him
yeehaw nurgle, time to round up some plagues

>”Tomorrow we’re swinging by the Mortal Realms to make sure those who are owed a bounty from Ghyran are given what is rightfully theirs.”

>>97093011
>The characters outside the main four lack act I cards
Maybe Cursed City spoiled us, but between the lack of book and 3 of the characters seemingly being an afterthought, Darkwater's funny

>>97093326
Based outcome: realm rules for Ghyran
Plausible outcome: 500 word short story

>>97093326
SOG for helsmiths

>>97093326
30 pages long sex scene

>>97093326
this>>97093343

>>97093329
I get the feeling it was designed as pick up scenarios rather than a campaign system. There's no narrative, no real character progression, and everything seems to discourage attachment.
The dice pool is gone which means your turn is irrelevant to other players. There's no anticipation to see what you roll and consequently what you can do or dice gifting so other players can perform another action because they don't expect synergy. Every player just acts alone and the random objective driven play makes the condition of other players their own problem.
Idk it seems legitimately terrible and I haven't seen a positive review but I guess I'll wait and see

>>97093203
No, Katakros has to be able to hide in the forest.

I think Vhordrai's got this in the bag.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1geonm0v/miniature-of-the-year-2025-vote-for-your-favourites-and-enter-a-competition-to-win-the-best/

>>97093501
i voted for Bull Centaurs and Darkwater myself

>>97093501
deathbringer for me.
>>97093536
Fuck didnt know that was an option. I just voted for the dyke elf for that category as a joke.

>>97093501
Why is Warhammer Quest in the third round and not in the AoS Round?

>>97093554
Because it's a different game. Just like how Necromunda and 40k are not in the same category.

>>97093501
The generic dragon is better since it doesn't have an ugly vampire on the back

>>97093564
But all the Kill team, War Cry and Underworlds kits are in the first two categories.
Necromunda is a Specialist game, just like all the other models in that category, except for the Warhammer Quest ones

>>97093554
the only implication is that the minis were sculpted by the specialist team

if any implication has to be drawn

>>97093501
>TOW thrown in with "and the rest"
brutal

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>>97093579
>War Cry
where?

>>97093579
>But all the Kill team, War Cry and Underworlds kits are in the first two categories.
Those are all technically mainline games.

Would AoS combat become a bit more balanced if damage distribution was based off 40k?
>>97092548
>TQ
I hope they never bring back greenskinz a.k.a. old fantasy orks except aosified

>>97093589
so is the horus heresy

>>97093607
>Toughness
Fuck no. Maybe they can play around with spillover damage but aos should be doing its own thing before following 40k or any other gw games lead.

>>97093607
>balanced
I'll pass

>>97093618
Fair point. Strength vs toughness tables can be left out, but spillover damage could help negate hammers being too killy

>>97093589
>Now that the dust has settled, why did TOW flop?

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>>97093501
>40k minis were so shit this year that the tyranid terrain is the best looking thing in the selection

>>97093634
No, spillover damage is a godsend. The last thing we need is save by save slowrolling, that shit is a fucking cancer on 40k

You can deal with the hammers without needing to rewrite the games underlying systems

>>97093634
What's damage spillover? AoS attacks target units in an abstract sense

>>97093652
Spillover damage does make the game a BIT too lethal. We’ve been complaining that foot hero’s are useless and I feel like if they could find a way to intervene on that it would be good to counteract that.

>>97093634
>could help negate hammers being too killy
A good start would be to bring back weapon range, every model having an effective 6" range is completely dumb and make reinforced units way too strong

>>97093672
No, there were plenty of times in the game where it wasn't as lethal and we've had spillover damage since day 1. Spillover damage isn't the problem

>>97093672
Lots of games have activations and buffs dependent upon heroes. AoS should go back to only heroes being eligible to use command abilities and restore warscroll command abilities if not battletome tables for them like spells or prayers

>>97093681
AoS is all about abstraction, just slam minis together and they all attack

>>97093501
I voted for
>warp spider hero
>vampire on a dragon
>chink dragon-lady
I know, probably some basic choices, but I liked them so fuck you.

>>97093672
teh reason its too lethal is

-fights twice
-strikes first
-hits and wounds on 3s or 2s andd have +1 to hit and wound
- 4+ attacks per model (before the aforementioned fights twice)
-crit mortal on fucking everything
-rend 2 or better on almost every unit
-3d6 charges in almost every army
-points have increased and armies have shrunk, as a result opponents have fewer and smaller units to soak hits, while hammer units can now be worth up to 25% of your total points or more, meaning with a single buff like AoA you can affect a quarter of your army at once.

>>97093651
logan grimnar i would say was an AoS caliber sculpt, but the rest were pretty boring

>>97093681
i actually think the weapon range is a bit of a red herring. a lot of the deadliest hammers in the game have very small footprints, and even with 1 or 2 inch ranges would still get into combat without too much trouble. also removing base size as a combat statistic (25mm bases being very good, 32mm bases being very bad because of the inch) was definitely the right move

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Potentially good news.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/noz8yycy/an-avian-arch-knight-and-leaping-kroot-carnivore-return-as-this-years-boxing-day-miniatures/

>spend boxing day traveling to a Warhammer store for an item that may not be in stock
What

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I hope we get some mercenary RoR again this year. Ideally some variant warscrolls too but maybe that's too fun for muh matched play

>>97093805
>I hope we get some mercenary RoR again this year.
path to glory bro.

>>97093773
The crow knight would make such a easy hero model, that would sell immensely.
I dont understand gw retarded obsession with promo minis.

>>97093832
You're supposed to use it in the command corps.

Im trying to get back into Aos, specially the lore/novel side of things. I remember there being a mega link with most of the novel/battle tomes, is there something like up to date that's still around? or have the gw ip ninjas got them all?

>>97093860
They kept getting reported so people stopped sharing them. If you want something specific you either track it down someplace else or you ask here or in the share thread.

>>97093805
based pastelchad
>>97093860
shit kept getting reported, just ask for what you want in the thread [politely :)] and usually an anon will have it for you. Can take a few days of trying in some cases though.

>>97093773
Hope we end up getting a whole foot-knights unit to serve as nu-Cities first elite infantry

>>97093875
Damn that's a shame. Anything that I should seek out? The last novel I read and really enjoyed as Godeaters son and Prince Maesa before that.

>>97093924
If you want a novel then Starseer's Ruin is the most recent one released and also has some of the most interesting subject material in a while. Or, since you liked Godeater's Son, you could go for Yndrasta: The Celestial Spear by the same author. If you want a lighter read to ease yourself back into things, Grombrindal: Chronicles of the Wanderer should be the way to go. It's episodic and has a similar appeal to Princce Maesa, but tells brighter stories. All three are good.

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Got off my ass and based Skarbrand with more bloody... portal thingy.

>>97093971
HE IS BLOODY BENCHOD BASTERD HE FUK U BLOODY

>>97093956
Thanks for the suggestions. Starseer ruins sounds sort of like the thing I want from Aos fiction,with different factions/cultures interacting with each other

>>97093832
I've long considered a corvid-themed diorama I'd like to try with him and Krethusa. If I can finally snag him then I just need to track down one or two of the Warcry crow lads and I might just be able to pretend I still have my modelling chops.

>>97092548
>TQ
Stormcast Dreadnought for the Ruination Chamber. I HATE that idea.

>>97094138
It does make me laugh.

>>97093956
Scourge of Fate is my favourite Black Library product, it's simply amazing and the audiobook just makes it better. Phillip Sacramento kills it.

>>97094161
Meant for >>97093924

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Do the revanants actually have this weapon in their kit or am I being falsely advertised here.

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>>97094169
one does
he doesn't hold it with 2 hands

>>97094187
Aw. Thanks for identifying it tho.

>>97094187
>>97094227
Dunno if it's important to you but it's only the leader dude that can have this weapon btw

Kinda off topic but I don't want to ask /40kg/.
What the fuck is up with these stupid 'Calth News' articles. Why are they doing this.
Also the first 'Grotmas' thing was shit, literally a dozen paragraphs Chat GPT could have shat out. Where the fuck are the rule expansions from last year.

>>97094333
I feel like it would be more relevant if WYSIWYG actually mattered rn for AOS. Since everything basically just has one generic weapon profile bar a few expections.

>>97094138
arent all stormcast technically dreadnoughts

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So I'm swapping my OBR army for a Slaanesh Army, gonna be winding up with the Spearhead like 30 extra archers, lord of hubris, Sigvald, 10 painbringers, some extra cav, extra Slaangors, and an extra thing of the little noodle tongue guys, also the goofy terrain piece.

Anything in particular I should be aiming for? I feel like I'll have just about everything I'd need basically.(Other than Glutos, I'm getting Glutos HE NEEDS TO BE IN THE ARMY I LOVE THAT FUCKING MODEL)

>>97094394
i dont think we have any dedicated slaanesh players who frequent the thread, at least i havent seen any. might be better off asking reddit

Hello it's sad and lonely anon again, who every years uses GW's 'model of the year' voting thing to count how many models GW released for each system this year. So, without further adooooooo.

In 2025, Games Workshop released
>40k (Including Kill Team)
74 Models
>AoS (Including Underworlds)
47 Models
>Specialist Games (Horus Heresy, TOW, Legion Imperialis, Blood Bowl, Necromunda)
91 Models

I can't remember how many they did for 2024 because all my data is on another hard drive.

>>97094426
Dang, but that's fair. I guess I swapped one niche army for another just polar opposites in playstyle. If I remember anything from the only time I've played Slaanesh, lord of Pain mixed with Archers = murder, cavalry makes a solid wall, I didn't see Glutos or Sigvald but honestly they seem pretty straight forward. If I've got at least 2k points nothin' wrong with winging it for a game and seeing how it goes!

I'll hold off on asking them for now, maybe I'll get lucky in this thread! Thank you though anon!

>>97094434
I thought we had more desu, but I guess when 40k primarily has like 8 space marine hero models released every single event that stacks the numbers. (Same goes for Specialist games having like 4 forgeworld exclusive characters per event for each game)

>>97093773
So those start at 26th and last until?

>>97094389
How do you figure?

>>97094389
Nah I thought they were just souls floating in armor originally but no they're basically just souls given form and cool armor that when they die turn into lightning to be sent home to get a new body.

>>97094441
Kharadron Overlords: Null-Khemist
Kharadron Overlords: Zontari Endrin Dock
Helsmiths of Hashut: Daemonsmith o Infernal Taurus
Helsmiths of Hashut: Hobgrob Vandalz
Helsmiths of Hashut: Dominator Engine
Helsmiths of Hashut: Infernal Razers
Helsmiths of Hashut: Ashen Elder
Helsmiths of Hashut: Deathshrieker Rocket Battery
Helsmiths of Hashut: Infernal Cohort
Helsmiths of Hashut: Bull Centaurs
Helsmiths of Hashut: Daemonsmith
Helsmiths of Hashut: Anointed Sentinels
Helsmiths of Hashut: Tormentor Bombard
Helsmiths of Hashut: Urak Taar The First Daemonsmith
Helsmiths of Hashut: War Despot
Blades of Khorne: Deathbringer
Orruk Warclans: Manifestations
Orruk Warclans: Bossrokk Tower
Orruk Warclans: Skaregob Totem
Orruk Warclans: Hobgrot Slittaboss
Gloomspite Gitz: Snarlboss On War-Wheela/Shaman on War-Wheela
Gloomspite Gitz: Doom Diver Catapult
Gloomspite Gitz: Snarlpack Cavalry
Gloomspite Gitz: Droggz Da Sunchompa
Gloomspite Gitz: Sunsteala Wheelas
Soulblight Gravelords: Cursed Sepulchre/Nexus of Grief
Soulblight Gravelords: Manifestations
Soulblight Gravelords: Revenant Draconith
Soulblight Gravelords: The Summons
Soulblight Gravelords: Prince Vhordrai Lord of the Crimson Keep
Soulblight Gravelords: Barrow Knights
Soulblight Gravelords: Blades of The Hollow King
Soulblight Gravelords: Vampire Lord on Nightmare Steed
Soulblight Gravelords: Wight King on Skeletal Steed
Soulblight Gravelords: Barrowe Guard
Idoneth Deepkin: Ikon Of The Sea
Idnoeth Deepkin: Manifestations
Idoneth Deepkin: Ikon Of The Storm
Idoneth Deepkin: Mathaela, Oracle Of The Abyss
Slaves to Darkness: Urkhan The Dark Warden
Daughters Of Khaine: Maleneth Witchblade
Nighthaunt: Lord Vitriolic
Flesh Eater Courts: High Falconer Felgryn
Cities of Sigmar: Galen & Doralia: Outnumbered
Warhammer Underworlds: Kamandora's Blades
Warhammer Underworlds: Borgit's Beastgrabbaz

>>97094520
>counts some dual kits but not others
okay retard

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>Darkwater pre order week
>little to no buzz
>many big channels hyping up TOW instead
I don't feel so good bros...

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>>97094389
Dreadnought are cripples

97094628
Why do half of these threads boil down to people trying to hype up TOW with poorly done baits using some random youtube channel no one has ever seen.

I feel like I'm on /v/

>>97094628
At the end of the day, people liked the idea of Darkwater more so than Darkwater itself.

>>97094670
he's in the wfg thread right now too trying to start a thread war

>>97094628
Now that the dust has settled, why did TOW flop?

>>97094533
Did you not read my fucking post you cock gobbling retard? LOOK HERE >>97094434


GAMES WORKSHOP MAKES THE DECISION. THAT IS HOW THEY LABELLED THEM. FOR SIX YEARS I USE THEIR DEFINITIONS WHEN COUNTING.

FUCK OFF AND READ.

>>97094690
I don't think anyone in this thread gives enough of a shit to start a thread war. I don't understand how we could when we get a post like every 10 minutes unless people raid us when some stupid shit happens.

>>97094533
Anon....

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1geonm0v/miniature-of-the-year-2025-vote-for-your-favourites-and-enter-a-competition-to-win-the-best/

That's how GW lists them.

>>97094628
Darkwater looks terrible, best you can find is an unboxing. "Nice minis"

>>97094628
I was thinking of buying it, but since most of the nurgle will be legends next year I didn't even bother, can't even use the pestigors since there's only 8 in the box

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See the Spitewood is totally different from the Gnarlwood because the sharp bits are hiding inside the trees this time around.

>>97093781
You can order it online on the 10th of January

>>97094841
I looked for channels covering the game, that was the main reason I am not buying it. Darkwater is following the AoS trend of dumbing everything down to try and attract the 40k crowd. The game sucks and $250 for a smattering of models with little utility is silly.

>>97093501
I voted for the IDK manifestation
>you can vote for terrain pieces
I feel bad for whoever worked on those knowing they're going to get zero votes. They should have had their own categery.

>>97094854
I actually adore the Spitewood and can't wait to see what warbands/lore expansions Underworld gets relating to it.
Then again, I'm the biggest Welf fan on earth and will default to wood elves in any setting that has them so me loving the Spitewood and all the Kurnothi stuff to do with it isn't surprising.

I need some second opinion.

So I am making a Skaven army, mostly for Oldhammer painting purposes, but I do not exclude the possibility that I might put them to battle at some point.

The issue I have is that I am not sure which bases to take for them. I could go full retro and do like 20x20 for Clan Rats, go more more with 25x25 or even do round 25 and get some 25x25 adapters so I could field them in more games... thoughts?

>>97095022
Fuck off TOWfag.

>>97095027
fuck off back to /v/ you shitstirring faggot

>>97095031
>97095031
>Muh Oldhammer
>Muh retro 20x20 bases
>Muh adapters
Only one shitstirring faggot here and it ain't me, cunt.

>>97095022
secondary nomodels

>>97095039
NTA but believe it or not there's a bunch of us who play both AoS and TOW

>>97095046
meant for >>97095027

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>>97095055
>>97095046
Get fucked, TOWfag.

>>97095039
>muh console wars
rope yourself, retard

>>97095049
AoS requires round bases, TOW uses trays. You are nogames if you think 25x25 is an option. Prior to 4e weapon changes 20x20 wasn't really an option either

I find it quite funny that the TOW pigs and /v/ermin are doomposting about darkwater, given that they're made by the same studio, just like all the other warhammer quest games were. If darkwater bombs then the specialist design studio, i.e. TOW will get less funding in the future given how strict gw bean counters are with product lines.
What makes that even spicier is that in the last annual report GW already stated they will course correct to make up for some mistakes by sticking to what they know. I.e. favouring Age of Sigmar.
The doomposting is just irony.

>>97095123
>/v/ermin
fuck off back to 40kg please

>>97095123
>If darkwater bombs then the specialist design studio, i.e. TOW will get less funding in the future
This requires too much critical thinking for most people these days to understand.

>>97095123
But anon ToW outsold AoS last quarter

>>97095157
LMMMMMMMMMMMMMAOOOOOO

>>97095173
Indeed, it's AoS that is being downsized after numerous flops in a row.

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>If you say anything bad about Darkwater you're a heckin meanie TOW pig or a /v/ermin!
What a faggot. Darkwater looks like an afterthought rules wise. No dice pool actions, no classes, no consistent upgrades, no story, procedural enemy behaviours, no CYOA segments, no post game, etc
It looks TERRIBLE and there hasn't been a single positive review

I also enjoy TOW more than AoS. AoS has become too predictable.

>>97095177
What else is happening in your little world of delusions? Are blacks law-abiding citizens and do women actually speak sense? Do sheep eat clouds and fish swim in sand?

I wish Darkwater flopped to discourage GW but they're immune to failure at this point. That's why TOW exists, it doesn't matter what they put out only that they put something out

>>97095157
4.0 has a solid core ruleset and terrible army books. They need to 6th Ed 40K this edition immediately

>>97095179
there's no need to be negative
if you don't like something keep it to yourself and leave aosg

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>>97092886
>I hope spiderfangs doesn't get squatted.
I hope they don't but I'm not really holding my breath at this point. I'm just glad I put my scuttleboss on a chariot base when I built him so I don't need to rebase him. That said, I was saying the same things for years about death rattle and seraphon and gitmob, and all of them got insane refreshes.

>>97095022
ask the people who actually play games with square bases

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>>97092910
Just make his beard thicker to cover his mouth

>>97095211
Why do you want this place to become a corporate hugbox. You can go hang out on GW's official social media if you want only positivity. People should be able to speak their minds here.

>>97093860
Gimme a min ill dump what I've got

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>>97095069
I almost feel like this image was saved for the purpose of throwing this thread into chaos. This is like the perfect shitstorm of

1: pissing off the "THIS BOARD LOOKS LIKE SHIT"
2: people that complain about unpainted models
3: people who complain about same build and paint jobs on this nurgle guys models.
4:arguing about TOW shit.

We just need someone talking about Kurnos and Perryanon to come back. SOMEONE BREAK OUT THE BINGO CARD!

>>97095219
I'm actually getting a couple of the arachnaroks from a trade and I'm both excited and concerned. It's a cool model but I feel like the end of days approaches for spiderfang.

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anyone got pdfs of the warcry books? not the novels I mean like the ones that came in the box sets with rules for terrain and lore dumps and stuff

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>>97095022
25 rounds unless you intend to play WHF, then 20x20 with adapters
Mordheim uses 20x20 but I don't think anyone would cry about 25 bases either way and of course it's just a few models anyway

>>97093860
>>97095235
4eSoulblightGravelords
https://files.catbox.moe/rf1m6i.pdf
4eGSG
https://files.catbox.moe/e603kx.pdf
1eBOK
https://files.catbox.moe/afzi3e.pdf
1eSBGL/LON
https://files.catbox.moe/y6gjf9.pdf
1eGSG
https://files.catbox.moe/0tso9b.pdf
2eSeraphon
https://files.catbox.moe/wyr7o0.pdf
2eNH
https://files.catbox.moe/wyr7o0.pdf

>>97095245
You'll have fun with the big spider. Leave the howdah off while painting or your going to hang yourself or just do a skitterstrand

>>97095289
I kinda figured, it's another centerpiece for my ever growing pile.

>>97095239
It was just a small game thrown together in a few minutes when we didn't want to get all our terrain out on a rainy, dull day. Game was ok, honestly. Pretty one-sided in the favour of the Stormcast but I still enjoyed having my Maggotkin on the table.
But you're right about one thing, my opponent needs to get his fucking models painted up, I want to fight more Hallowed Knights not greytide!
Also TOW and TOWfags can get fucked.

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You know what's wild? Knight of Shrauds was the only GA Death releas in 1e, and he barely counts since he's from the end of edition campaign thing

>>97095226
Excellent work.

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>>97094365
>Why are they doing this.
Hyping up the end of edition 40k narrative and the upcoming Ultramarine/Word Bearers releases and hinting at the return of Leman Russ.

>>97095303
You know what's even wilder? That they sculpted nighthaunt with fleshy hands when they got skeleton faces. They could have given the knight of shrouds ornate metal gauntlets instead.

>>97095303
Aye, Malign Portents was weird because a lot of it is 2nd edition coded but was released for 1st. It kinda gave us a taste of what we'd be getting in 2nd. It's got fun lore as well but the rules were clunky imo.

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>>97095303
>and he barely counts since he's from the end of edition campaign thing
then you should count end times releases as aos1.0 releases

>>97094365
>Why are they doing this
They want to sell marinefags an ultramarine supplement and perhaps some tyrannic war veterans less than 6 months before the new edition, and after a grave case of marines burnout amongst the fans no less, so they're preemptively doing damage control, telegraph the incoming shit, and trying to make a meme out of it.

>>97095310
>Word Bearers releases
Don't give me hope, anon. I've already a shitton of AoS stuff to work on and the Starcraft Tabletop Game is going to devour all my money when it releases. I can't handle a full Word Bearers release as well T_T

>>97095247
I finally got my warcry box coming in the mail this week, I'm glad I'll be set for decent terrain to use
Catacombs
https://litter.catbox DOT moe SLASH 6d9rngzjjrksbthd DOT pdf
Rot and Ruin
https://litter DOT catbox.moe SLASH cnurt715ctrmiimq DOT pdf

>>97095245
>GW puts out their best spider model with Shelob
>probably not worth getting as a proxy because spiderfang will get removed from the battle tome
it's tragic, I would have much preferred they updated the spider riders rather than adding lame wolf riders no one asked for.

>>97095355
>after a grave case of marines burnout amongst the fans no less
there's no such thing, marinefags will eat everything no matter how shit it is

>>97095421
Agreed. No store can keep the Ultra Honor guard in stock because Marine piggies are buying 18 to meta cha… I mean play fluffy!

>>97095323
NH are spooky, so they don't fallow decomposition logic

>>97095343
Well, no since i counted KoS as a 1e releas. Bu your own logic ET doesn't count

>>97095388
I mean nothings set in stone but I feel like it's in the cards unless GW decides to release a bug themed expansion to gits which I feel like would be a hard sell for an army already packed to the gills that just got a release.

>>97095343
>Nagash, God of all undead
>Can be played in all Death Factions
>Sucks in all of them
Kragnos at least provides that 3D6" Charge

>>97093203
>>97093182
>DoK no buff for snakes
>BoK Bloodwarriors remain same as S2D Chaos Warriors while sucking ass
I hope this is just headcanon

>>97095498
I'm guessing they'll cut them so the bug theming doesn't overlap with sylvaneth.

>>97095508
I feel like having big skittery cave bugs is a bit different from happy little sylvaneth bugs but who knows how GW's brain operates.

>>97095499
snakes are actually seeing play and doing well

heres a 5-0 list from october 18th

Snakes go sssss….
2000/2000 pts
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Grand Alliance Order | Daughters of Khaine | Scáthcoven
General's Handbook 2025-26
Drops: 2
Spell Lore - Lore of Shadows
Prayer Lore - Prayers of the Khainite Cult
Manifestation Lore - Forbidden Power (20 Points)
Battle Tactics Cards: Restless Energy and Scouting Force
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General's Regiment
Scourge of Ghyran Bloodwrack Shrine (250)
• General
• Zealous Orator
• Sevenfold Shadow
Blood Sisters (280)
• Reinforced
Blood Stalkers (130)
Khainite Shadowstalkers (120)
Khinerai Heartrenders (200)
• Reinforced
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Regiment 1
Melusai Ironscale (160)
Blood Sisters (280)
• Reinforced
Blood Sisters (280)
• Reinforced
Blood Sisters (280)
• Reinforced
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Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
App: v1.20.0 (1) | Data: v345

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>>97094628
>lords of war
>big
Lol
Lmao even
How's that funky pop wall treating you these days jay? Or is Chris the one spamming it now?

>>97095719
It's just a thing the usual suspects try to derail the thread, same thing happened in the previous one with some youtuber nobody's ever even heard of. Best to just leave them be.

>>97095123
>If darkwater bombs then the specialist design studio
Did they make Darkwater?

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>>97095646
>Monopose blightkings poster
I've cemented my place as one of the few people in this entire thread who actually plays the game. I am honoured, anons, truly.

>>97094628
These guys have nothing to say. I remember it being interesting to hear of things from a retail perspective on something but nowadays they just milk it with these inane vlogs mumbling the most pointless shit

>>97094628
>Down syndrome chink in thumbnail
I will pass, thank you.

>>97095840
It's honestly a little offensive now they're OOP. What'd you do with all the bits if I suppose you'd never kitbash anything if even deviating from the main build instructions is off limits?

>>97095840
I don't think anyone would really care that you have a few matching models if you weren't also annoying to interact with in any way

>>97095865
In my bitsbox. I've used 'em throughout the years here and there on Death Guard and such but kept most of them for projects I never got around to. Planning to convert some Bretonnia Pegasus into Nurgle "Dark Pegasus" riders since I loathe the Pusgoyle models.
I've got another two boxes of Blightkings to build plus 3 Wurmspat so I'll be adding to 'em eventually. I've 100% completed my massive collection of Nurgle daemons except for my GUO so once we refocus on AoS in my area (currently focusing on MESBG) I'll be free to carry on the mortal side.

>>97095877
Cope.

>>97095360
Valrak had a leak like two months ago about Lorgar returning and a new Guilliman model. The new campaign is supposed to pit word bearers against ultramarines again. Then Russ will come back to save the day. Probably.

>>97095899
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>97095899
What's your opinion on new blightkings oh wise and venerable maggotkin autist?
>>97095911
I never really cared about the primarch soap opera thing gw did with the hh series, but just from hobby osmosis it seems like gw goes out of their way every time to make lorgar the little bitch among primarchs. Kind of endeared me to the word bearers honestly.
>new guilliman
Isn't his model from 8th edition? I know it doesn't look all that good but a little early to retire a centrepiece no?

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>>97095899
>I've 100% completed my massive collection of Nurgle daemons
I vastly prefer the mortal side of Nurgle so I put far more work into those models than the daemons but despite being a fairly half-assed grind to get through them I like how they came out. They look great grouped up on the tabletop, just not very good on their own lol

>>97095931
Seethe.

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>>97095939

>>97095239
>arguing about TOW shit
absurd that /tg/ doesn't have rules against flamewars when /aosg/ is getting shamelessly brigaded by TOWfags

>>97095943
why would that matter, the jannies don't do shit anyway

>>97095937
>What's your opinion on new blightkings oh wise and venerable maggotkin autist?
I don't really like 'em but I've so many (36 counting two sets of Wurmspat I'll be using to bulk out the squads with the two awesome Blightkings that come in the set) I don't need to worry.
I plan to get Rotswords and Sloven Knights since in 1st and 2nd ed AoS (which we still play) you can take Nurgle Chaos Warriors/Knights in a Maggotkin army and those'll look more fitting on the tabletop.
Don't plan to get anything else in the new wave. I do look forward to having my Harbinger of Decay leading a band of Nurgle looking Chaos Knights into the ranks of the Hallowed Knights though.

>>97095952
Yeah personally I vastly prefer the new stuff, but of course I'm no nurgle player so it's interesting to hear the perspective of actual maggotkin players. I agree the rotswords look dope as fuck, probably my favourites of the whole reveal.

>>97095966
As someone who just hopped on and is still working on his army, the rot swords look neat but I don't know if I wanna get them compared to like the quest pestigors (but I'm delaying buying quest as long as I can) the sloven knights are eh, the new blight kings are good looking but not really comparable to what we have now, and the rotswords are just kinda good (even if I'm sick of horns on every model)

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>>97096031
SKnights and Rotswords will fit fine with my dudes so I'm happy to get them as more approtiapte proxies for 1st and 2nd ed Nurgle-aligned-STD units but I'm definitely not going to buy any of those stupid looking pestigors or stripper Blightkings or anything else they've shown off.

>>97096036
here's hoping CoS wave 3 is elfs and dorfs

>>97096054
>approtiapte
How the fuck did I misspell appropriate so badly lmfao

>>97096054
You got any big plans on changing your scheme up for them or just stickin' the same contrast stuff

>>97096062
Sticking to it. I've a fuckton done in that scheme already and I really like it.

>>97096068
Fair enough, I get too ocd with my own shit I don't know if I could just leave as much detail stuff untouched without losing my mind. Good on ya for getting your shit finished.

>>97096055
One can hope, but the freeguild stuff didn't inspire confidence.

>>97096079
As long as I and my opponents are ok with it and we can play games with painted models I'm happy. Between work and health shite I'm content to get my army to a standard that looks good on the table and pleases me.
With something like MESBG (far lower model count than 1st/2nd ed AoS) or the upcoming Starcraft Tabletop Game (a game I AM FUCKING HYPED FOR) I'll put a load more effort in but there's only so many free hours I've access to in a day and I can't spend all of 'em painting lol

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>>97096055
>>97096092
Yknow I feel like dorfs can be translated fairly easily to CoS' proto-industrial, blocky geometric design, but for elves that's kind of trickier. First of all if you just stick em in normal cos gear no one would even realize they're elves in the first place, a problem dwarfs obviously don't have.
I think they could maybe work with a wildercorps style, allowing them to have more flowing textile and whatnot in their sculpts, which can help sell the lithe look. Building on that they could form the cities' light cav, mounted with guns and shit.

>>97096239
I don't see it as a question of whether they could be worked into the new aesthetic, more that I don't think there's any strong intent to even try doing so on GW's part.

I need 4k pics of Blighted Wilds yesterday.

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>>97096036
>>97096055
City aelf qts pls

>>97096399
Prediction: the rumor of CoS duardin getting canned and Fyreslayers being reworked into a more generic duardin faction is true. Similarly the few city aelf units still left will be dropped as well and DoK will be reworked into a more generic aelf faction.

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>>97096301
Oh yeah I know, just spitballing here.
It's a shame because jolly cooperation is one of the more unique things about cities, along with the late medieval/hussite firepower thing which you don't see too much in fantasy.

>>97096439
I don't think I like this. I feel like Fyreslayers should be expanded away from just Duardin, like fire belly ogors getting added into them. Just all half naked fire worshippers. I also like DoK as the monstergirl faction, they should eat into the BoC real estate and have big titty minotaurs.

>>97096399
>>97096439
Sorry all " normal " type elves are sent back to Fantasy. GW won't allow for overlap save where necessary ( chaos )

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>>97096469
which sucks because elves could easily slot in as a scouting force that can tag threats before they reach the frontlines or as a rapid-fire war machine crew, y'know, something that their finesse could take advantage of like a ballista. They can even have those floppy hats like the top image to keep their ears exposed and make it obvious they're elves and not humans.

>>97096471
>I don't think I like this.
I don't either but I have a premonition of it coming our way.

>>97096055
>>97096239
it's not that GW can't do CoS elfs and dwarfs, it's that they don't want to because they want CoS as the majority human faction. The continued existance of elfs and dwarfs in the book is only because they didn't want to piss grognards off after they killed WHFB, so they gave them a way to keep playing with their minis. If that supposed leak about fyreslayers getting turned into khazalid holds as a general dwarf faction is true, I would put CoS getting new dwarf and elf units at basically zero. Honestly, instead of putting non-humans into CoS, they should just rewrite the rules for regiments of renown so you could take some units from the same grand alliance.

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>>97096475
I don't care if they're slightly weird as long as we get qt elfs with giant swords and leggings

I remember that the mutalith vortex beast had a profile specifically for tzeentch but i cant find it in the tome.
Is this some mandela effect bullshit or did it exist?

>>97096703
Was it a think last edition or something? Wasn't Archaon also a universal Chaos thing too?

>>97093832
>I dont understand gw retarded obsession with promo minis.
They can sell them for twice as much. Why make $35 when you can make $70

>>97096832
They make so many of these fucking commemorative series garbage sculpts that they lose all meaning. Reminder too that these limited time sculpts they charge premium for are often artist tryout sculpts that cost GW nothing.

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>>97094394
Meta lists are Glutos, Twinsouls, Blissbarb Archers, and Slickblades.

Nothing in there you'd call trash aside from maybe the Slaangor - but I like their SoG scrolls since you get a 9" fuck-you missile that does 3 dmg with a charge and potentially a lot of Out-of-Combat moving.

In my experience, Sigvald is a hero-nuker and a distraction piece. But my Siggy specifically likes to fucking roll like dogshit despite his weapon being a 2+/3+

>>97096471
>I feel like Fyreslayers should be expanded away from just Duardin
They could have magma/fire elementals indigenous to the volcanos they inhabit. Some offspring of other godbeasts, like Ignax, Ignimbris, Fulminax, or just some cousins of the magmadroths like how stardrakes and draconith are all descendants of Dracothion.

>>97097069
That'd be fine, but I kind of like the Ogors idea big guys backing up little guys is a kino look.

>>97097004
Not a fan of twin souls vs the standard armored dudes (especially if my friend loans me his fancy airbrush and pearlescent paint for their armor and shields) And honestly good to hear! I'm pretty excited to swap from the slow ass Ossiarch for something that has both ranged and speedy options alongside one of my favorite models of AOS! We'll see how it goes but i'm very optimistic!

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>>97097365
You could run both, honestly. Twin Souls just get nicer buffs overall. Painbringers have a better save (3+ vs 4+) and a better hit on their weapon, on top of +1 rend when fighting on an objective you don't control.

Twin Souls, however, get +1 attack (at -1 to hit in comparison), but also cause -1 attacks and get a 5+ Ward if they're in combat and haven't charged this turn.

Could do half and half, let the Painbringers push up and Twin Souls hold.

A good combo is Sigvald with a Lord of Hubris as a bodyguard. Hubris uses its ability to either force Sigvald to be ignored by a unit, or give Strike-Last. Then you use Threnody Voicebox to give everything -1 attack on top of that. Makes for an annoying time getting to Sigvald.

>>97097377
>Twin Souls, however, get +1 attack (at -1 to hit in comparison), but also cause -1 attacks and get a 5+ Ward if they're in combat and haven't charged this turn.

It does sound tempting, I'll keep it in mind! Lord of Hubris sounds like a very fun unit to fiddle with. Faction looks very fun and I'll be excited to get to paint it and fiddle around with Sigvald finally. Again, still 200% biased for Sigvald and Glutos haha.

why does 40k get rerolls for hit/wound but aos doesnt?

>>97093589
Screenshot that page to post whenever the TWW secondaries get uppity

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I’ve been looking at the OBR scrolls and sheets and while I’m 100% a noob they look really powerful.

They have a lot of overlapping buffs, tough units that hit decently hard and accurately. They have recursion and wards too with good saves. Their relentless discipline rules also seem very versatile and everyone always tells me that doing things on your opponents turn is always strong.

They are rather slow, is this their Achilles heel? They appeal to me but I’m afraid they’ll be oppressive to my opponent. Idk it just looks unfair. Can somebody give me the bone boy rundown? They have some nice spearhead boxes you can double up on for a good chunk of points and variety.

>>97097530
They're tough, slow as fuck, basically have no recursion outside of a few niche cases, your cav is good and Mortek are a solid battleline and you get lots of buffs.

The achiles heel is speed and that they're the death faction with the least amount of healing/recursion. (Also units are pricey and you're relatively "elite" for a death army) I didn't vibe with them, they have some neat stuff but still feel very lacking in terms of variety and options, and GW is pushing them as the slow "aura/buff" army which I didn't vibe with.

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>>97097390
Welcome to the cult, anon. Live deliciously.

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I had a dream there was some new key art for a new Warcry set and all it was was a skaven assassin perched on a building overlooking a free city but it kinda went hard it's difficult to explain why

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>>97097530
they certainly arent the best faction in the game, and if you dont have Katakros to play then you're going to have a bad time.

With Katakros however theyre a bit of a noob stomp army, to beat it you need to be smart to play around Katakros and maybe go for a double turn.

But all of the elite armies are kinda like that, so dont feel bad when you win a wh game, cause generally ur opponent will be sad lel

>>97096439
>DoK will be reworked into a more generic aelf faction.
The leak for DoK is that they are getting rolled ino Malerion and his elves. No surprise as DoK are at the very bottom of ownership and popularity.

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Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?

>>97097872
all the age of sigmar people who are going to play the game at this point already have at least a couple armies

>>97097872
Thoughts on why TOW flopped and is only considered a specialist game, anon? >>97093589

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>>97097826
>new cool demonic centerpiece unit
>probably get some good heavy armored infantry
>bringing back actually cool cavalry
>bringing back cool monsters like the kharabidys
I largely prefer AoS factions to old world ones but DoK just feels like they took old world dark elves and cut out half the good shit.

>>97098021
They should've souped CoS Dark Elves with them but then we'd have WFB Dark Elves and they didn't want that. Malerion will save us.

>>97097983
Being a specialist game is kinda nice desu, stops executive mettling like what got 4e so simplfiied

>>97097795
>>97097563
Thanks for the info.

If you’re gonna have a bad time without katakros, does every list that takes itself seriously run one? Like, in a given OBR army would they usually run a Katakros? Because while I don’t dislike the model I’d prefer to have another hero and not paint such a detailed centerpiece diorama.

Besides that they pretty much just slowly trudge up the board and hold their ground right? Like a macro-heavy army

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>>97098128
I mean you can do whatever you want, but Katakros will make things work much easier. And yes, you want to slowly move to hunker down and then kill anything that comes close. (And pray the enemy doesn't have anything with lots of rend or lots of ranged bullshit) Also the endless spells are good, they're literally just spawning units on board.

Also Gothizzar Harvester is basically a waste of a slot, the healing is mediocre, the damage is inconsistent and 140 for that army is just too much for what is brings. Also as much as I love him Arkhan is just fine, he's not terribly amazing in comparison to just bringing chair wizard that can give strike first. I hope you can find joy in Ossiarch I'm kinda sad to be selling mine but I'm keeping my Katakros because ironically he is something I wanna hobby up and just have as a little show piece. (Also I magnetized his little gang)

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>>97098128

yes sadly, OBR isnt in the best shape internal balance wise. For a competitive list Katakros is almost mandatory. Now its definitely possible to win without him but likeee Arkhan isnt that good, and all the other heroes are pretty fragile, if they die, you lose all your relentless disciplines and spells which makes your units much more mediocre a 4+ save wounding on 4's is pretty rough

>>97098021
>>97098077
Malerion save us

>>97095189
>Do sheep eat clouds and fish swim in sand?
This has to be some euro shot but this made me laugh so hard for some reason

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>>97095239
>Perryanon
Not fooling anyone perryfaggot

>>97098242
you and I both know he hasn't been in these threads since right after 4chan came back after being down. Mostly because everyone here rightfully shit on him and called him out every time he showed up.

>>97098227
>Malerion save us
It's going to be funny if it's just Dark Elves 2.0: Potatocore.

>>97098263
I don't know that, I don't play the bored world and he never really avatarfagged here the same way he apparently was in wfbg