>The necromancer is just a weird creepy guy but is otherwise harmless>The Illusionist is the real evil guy, able to trap you in a well of unreality
>>97097112The notion of "necromancy is evil" is a weird and outdated concept, for sure.A more utilitarian perspective about morality is more realistic... but less fantastic.
>>97097191The notion of "necromancy is evil" being weird and outdated is the territory of fedora-tipping millennials with low media literacy who think subversion for the sake of it makes them oh so clever.
>>97097112What game?
>>97097191The notion of "necromancy is evil" is fine but it's weird that when a group of fire mages carpet-bomb civilians with napalm they're treated much more leniently. Really makes you think.
>>97097227Naruto
>>97097191>>97097212It's certainly not outdated. People would still find it gross and unnatural for a zombie to crawl out of a grave, and they wouldn't be happy if you dug up their dead relative in order to use their bones to make a chair. It doesn't matter if it's 'utilitarian' to put those bones to a more practical purpose than rotting in the ground.Beyond that, evil necromancy is necessary for it to even make sense as distinct form of magic. If there's nothing special about animating a pile of bones, then you could also simply animate a pile of sticks and get the same results. And if there is something unique and special about corpses that makes them easier to animate compared to a statue or anything else, then it also makes for a far better setting if it's dark magic. Because then necromancy serves as a tempting shortcut to power, rather than just being objectively more efficient for no reason.
>>97097191This >>97097212There was a point in time where necromancy was so played-out that exploring alternative ways of looking at it was interesting. Now *that* bullshit is even more played-out and annoying.>"What if zombies... But they're the heckin' good guys?!"At some point, just accept that desecrating corpses to make zombie soldiers is just inherently bad and stop trying to sell people on it, goddamn. Even if it's not literally evil in the cosmic sense (It usually is.) what kind of freak is even going to get into that magic in the first place? Even if the magic itself wasn't evil, the kind of weirdo freak who's going to seek out those powers is going to be several orders of magnitude more likely to be an evil lunatic.
>>97097191>The notion of "necromancy is evil" is a weird and outdated concept, for sure.I don't know.I think it's more relevant now than ever.Like with how people are trying to bring loved ones back with AI, or making dead people speak.Most people who see people do stuff that recognize it as ahborrent.
>>97097332>what kind of freak is even going to get into that magic in the first place?Sole survivor of a shipwreck on a desert island. You don't have a lot, but you do have corpses.
>>97097406Firstly, that assumes you were already a freak who knew necromancy before getting into that sort of situation. Unless you're proposing that they could simply self-teach themselves that magic before they starve to death on a desert island.Secondly, if they are self-teaching themselves on a desert island, then at a minimum they also have water and sand. Conjure up some elementals instead of using corpses, because you will eventually run out of corpses but you won't run out of water or sand.
>People argue over what's worse, the guy who likes to play with rotting stuff or the chuunibyo who likes bigger explosions.>Nobody pays attention to the guys who one day create magical roofies and next day make you impotent and infertile the rest of your life.Keep arguing, guys, nothing to see here...
>>97097464Alas, if only there was a way to punish murderers, rapists, and graverobbers, instead of only choosing one to declare as bad.
>>97097340>necromancer is evil >not because they are raising armies of the dead or are an abomination against nature>but because they are using the dead and their memories as puppets to peddle their bullshit upon the impressionable and/or vulnerable masses to grow their influence and/or personal wealthI guess it's more unique than the average necromancer villain. Maybe the Necromancer also has a talking head named Korg, who he claims has the combined memories of entire generations, and he lets people ask it questions.>Shitfuckmurder Forrest is rightful Gnomish clay!>Korg is this true?
>>97097513I think the original point in OP was the necromancers were not as bad as people make them to think, illusionists are worst and then someone pointed at the evokers.All fair points, but then that anon is right in pointing the enchanters somehow are flying under the radar, despite the potential crimes be much more repulsive. If they are the worst of the bunch is debatable.
Necromancers are evil for spamming /tg/ with their apologia for a decade.