Work in Progress, "Long Weekend in Burgerland" Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny>Previous Threads:>>98079002>>98066686>>98053942
>>98090849i like your winland
I accidentally bought a big bottle of matte polyeurathane varnish and it’s too late to return it. What can I do with it?
>>98090881Post a pic. Some can be thinned with water. I have DecoArt varnish that thins well, it's actually one of my favorites.No I'm not craftsperg just for mentioning DecoArt
Started a samurai army lads. First 3 done. Gone for Ii clan colours
Testing out theDOW onslaught Blood Ravens RedApparently one of the many people pestering white dwarf about it managed to get it and shared it, so now it is on eavy archive.Here is my current wip with that red. I am enjoying it a lot so far. It has more pigment intensity than your average khorne red or Rhinox+Mephiston.
Here is another angle, it does need corrections on the detail but I'll attend that later once I get to progress more with the armor. I havent painted a primarino marino since 2017 so this is like if it where new terrain for me. Ironically this mini is from Dark Imperium.
>>98090933Killer highlights, it's rare to see somebody going full Infernal Brush so good on you.>>98090943>primarino marinoThis is stupid but I always wondered if I would get called a fake grog for making primaris Blood Ravens. I was there for the OG but I wasn't buying minis at the time.
>>98090952>Infernal Brusheavy metal akshually. I have never met that dude irl but I dont think he would be interested on painting a BR nor a TS. Hope he is doing good however.>>98090952>ake grog for making primaris Blood Ravens.bruh This just means the passed the culling and makes ADB seethe for he hates them. Now we even have the EM official recipe for blood ravens red, there has never been a better time to be a fan lol.
Felt well enough to break out the airbrush now that the oil is dry, this is the last of the kill team matte varnished. I'll give them a day or so to fully cure then all twelve will go on their bases, get their touchups (feet, Nob's klaw cable, etc.) and weathering finished, and the shadows on the bases adjusted. After that oil dries they'll get a last thin coat of matte varnish to unify the finish and I can finally call the project done, and on to the next.
>>98091013I just thought Infernal Brush is the one that ran 'Eavy Archive, maybe you know something I don't.
>>98091021Absolutely awesome orks, oil-baron anon.
>>98091029ah yes, definitely its his server people. It was a good move to compile all the recipes ever published by GW. I am surprised that GW never really did it, specially with WH+
Made progress. Still need to finish highlighting the cloth and then weather everything, but I think the armor is done as far as highlights go. How does it look? This is the first time I've tried using a reference of the model in light to guide my volumetric highlights. I know it's not very apparent on the black armor, but there is a bit of a gradient there. I may need to go higher on the next one.Tear into it if you'd like.
>>98091060Yeah I missed the black gradient but it looks good, the scratches draw the eye in a good way.
>>98090788Working on the meme vehicle for the meme army. >>98090849Looks sharp, any idea on a good starter set for bolt action, my wife’s is asking about father day stuff
>>98091069I'm thinking that next to the scratch highlight I should maybe do a metal paint instead of trying to mark it out in black. Since the under material is just metal would that make sense? Or maybe even try to double highlight the scratch. Like on a vertical one do the highlight, black and another highlight to make it look like a deep gouge.
>>98090881whats the problem?
>>98091088>Since the under material is just metal would that make sense?The black is more for the shadow of the scratch than the scratch. If anything I would scratch black and highlight it in metal.I don't get the double highlight but don't worry about it, just experiment with all of them and see what looks good.
>45 minutes of soaking in pure acetone and several scrubbings with a hard bamboo brush>barely getting down to the metal on the flat areas>don't even think about the detailspainters from 30 years ago were assholes
>>98091132We were 12 anon
>>98091132Are you stripping a metal model? What the fuck is that thing caked in that acetone isn't disintegrating it?
>>98091153NTA but my guess is paint
>>98091074Really go for what you like. But do you have anybody to play with? It really depends on who you’ll be playing with.
>>98091152there's no EXCUSE for the levels of chunky paint and primer>>98091153the most durable glossiest flooded primer you'd ever seen smothering two commissars, an old metal kharn and a RT khorne marine
>>98091166Post a picture I need to see this atrocity
>>98091173not pulling them out of the acetone to snap a pic now but here's how the kharn essentially still looks
>>98091189This didn't need stripping, all the detail is still there, you only needed to paint over it.
>>98091259nta but blind retards like you shouldn't give advice
>>98091132Dremel+wire wheel (saftey glasses, mask, and shoes)
>>98091259not only is detail flooded but there are moldlines that need cleaningnot to mention that glossy primer wouldn't even take a test stroke of paint
>>98090788Done with the third bladeguard vet, halfway through the squad. Now I slumber>>98090943Super clean eavy metal, nice job
>>98091156I have a yearly fishing trip with my dad and my grandfather fought in the pacific, so I was looking at some of the pacific starter sets, there is one for 60$, one for 160$ and I really didn’t see a huge model count difference. My wife and kids war game with me to, but really I was thinking about playing it with my pops
>>98091322What's stronger than acetone for taking off paint? Brake fluid? Like I'm flabbergasted that anon is having trouble stripping with acetone.
>>98091166That’s nice, I really enjoy playing with my two friends. It’s not hard to learn. For the kit, I would go with the Island Assault starter set. It looks like it has everything you need to get started and see if you like the game.
>>98091033Thank you kindly broseidon.
>>98091332>>98091392See
>>98091021Oh I missed these, great work as usual especially on the skinnow I really must slumber
>>98091132try a methylene chloride based stripper. just don't inhale the fumes.
>>98091298Just in case anybody's too dumb to realize Don't do this, it will destroy soft pewter, even with softer wire and low RPMs
>>98091347>What's stronger than acetone for taking off paint?Methylene Chloride. Use in a well-ventilated area and don't let it get on your skin.
>>98090933>>98090943Fantastic work, my fiend!
>>98091323Thank you! there is still a long way to go, after this, I will paint more thousand sons since I wish to paint an infernal master for GD.BTW where did you get the studs for your blade guard? that one looks great! i LIKE GOOD looking armies.
>>98091323This looks amazing. Is the hooded helm a dark angels bit?
My first Steel Rift models. Gonna be a lot of fun to work in a new scale
>>98091644i should finish painting my johnny
>>98091781DO IT
>>98091789alright fine watch this space
Why does the alien horse wear the mask?>He's a big mount.4u
what do you guys recommend if I want to make bonding studs on MK10 armor?I know ballbearings are a good example but is there a tool that makes is easy or do I just use my knife and just try to carve out the divets?
>>98091896get bearings at the mm size you wantget drill bit at the same mm sizedrill small divots so bearings sit as half spheres above the surface
>>98090914Those bases are pretty sweet, anon. Lovely stuff all around, where did you source the models from?
>>98091899thank you anon
>>98091053>It was a good move to compile all the recipes ever published by GWI'm pretty sure they're specifically archiving what we know of the 'eavy metal recipes (so just the recipes for the box arts), but ignoring stuff like white dwarf recipes.There's a number of ex-eavy metal painters that contribute iirc.
>>98091896a therapist because those dildo bumps look stupid and you're crazy for wanting them.
>>98091928> a therapist because those dildo bumps look stupid and you're crazy for wanting them
>>98091896>>98091899A few threads back another anon recommended nail art beads. They're on amazon and you get like 10,000 for a few bucks, multiple sizes
>>98091789behold, my johnny.i actually painted johnny himself months ago but i just recently found a backpack for himunfortunately it's failcast so there are some defects that are beyond my skills to fix
Alright lads, got my hands on the JT MKVI and I'm going to turn him into a giant Johnny. I've got him disassembled, now just waiting for the weather to get its shit together.
>>98090601>>98090578I ran into some of his stuff in the LGS outside Pearl Harbor, shortly before going and getting wasted at the Anna Millers in Waianae. They had a pretty primo game/music/comic shop out there.
>>98091132We weren't tards that stripped minis, sorry but not sorry
>>98092271It's time to stop posting.
Nta but your fucking stpuid
>>98092271We simply were kids that didn't have their ego hurt because our minis were badly painted.We just did our best and had a great time with our buddies, that's all. And most importantly we didn't have social media rotting our brains and making us constantly insecure about our skills. I mean we did have social media but just to talk to people we actually knew.
>>98092074Looks like one of those images simulating having a stroke lmao
>>98092605Speaking of whichR8 my childhood minis
>>98092654
>>98092605because a hunk of metal when you were a kid cost 2 dollars and now a plastic kit of the same concept costs 45 you dumb nigger
>>98092654>>98092664Pure child-like unfiltered SOVLkino
>>98092727Thanks anon
I have to make some bits for these chaos rhinos for my Worldeaters. Anyone got some neat rhino inspo saved?
>>98092807I've always liked the front panels being filled with skulls.
Wont flood any more.Child me thought this was painting competition worthy.Its glue to a cardboard piece with soil from one of our plants lmao
Has anyone got the Art of series PDFs?
Is this look glowing yet? I still don’t understand contracts
>>98093305Sort of, I think part of the problem is the formation of the rocks and lava looks unnatural coming to a middle point like that.
>>98093305>>98093332Also, those glowy paint jobs are usually photographed against a dark/black background for better sellling the effect. Retaking the photo against a black background would help.
>>98093376They also nearly exclusively use fluo/glowing paints. Which are, again, not lightfast and will not retain that glow effect for too long.
>>98093332it would make sense if there was a sword or something striking the ground at that point, otherwise it looks weird
>>98091693>BTW where did you get the studs for your blade guard?I put the studs in the greave myself, they're beads for nail art. In fact this would be me >>98092016>>98091896Someone here also mentioned using the butt of drill bits to punch semi spheres out of a thin pewter sheet or something like that. I think that might be better in some ways since you don't have to drill anything but I haven't tested it out personally.>>98091710Thanks, I made the hood with green stuff, around a normal bladeguard helmet
>>98093305I did these a while back but never used them for anything.Like >>98093332 said, your formation is odd, do you have a specific modle you want to use on the base, like is the centre point where a foot is breaking through a crust?I think you have the general idea of it, you need to put it into some context though.
>>98093681Forgot my image
>>98091466Thank you, same three colors on the skin for all of the boyz. Only real difference is how much I blend the highlights and shadows into the midtones and each other.
>>98093688What are these wheel guys?
>>98093757It's a Red Makers print, Solar Guard Riders of the Imperial Force.I'm proxying them in for Rough Riders for a guard army.
>>98093800Thanks, I like 'em.
>>98093305it looks painted on because it is. you need actual cracked texture to sell the look.
How to avoid splitting tips on droppers?Fuck sakes it already happened with 3 different pots (all from AK)Is something wrong with their design or a skill issue? I havent had it happen with other brands.
hello how would you go about painting the armour like this? found on some random niggas blog, but no recipe or tutorial included……….
>>98093918or this?? im looking for a recipe in citadel or vallejo paints basically.im not sure what the start with, shade with, or if i should go into flesh tone highlights or what im retarded man i just wanna paint word bearers :-Ddd
>>98093894It happens if there is too much pressure in the pot. Is the tip clogged? Are you storing them in sunlight? Or in a shelf/drawer in sunlight?
>>98093954Not clogged and they are in a storage case at all times except when im painting, so no sunlight either
>>98093894Don't be a pig disgusting and keep them clean at all times. It usually happens when paint dries and hardens inside the tip, which, in turn, usually happens when you leave the paint to do the same in the cap.
>>98093894AK bottles are terrible in my experience. I also got 3 or 4 of them splitting tips, and lot of them clogging up (which is also an issue for TTC bottles).I've been transferring a lot of paints into some cheap bottles I got from amazon, never had a single issue with them since.So yeah, definitely a design or batch flaw.
>>98094000All dropper bottles will clog unless cleaned. That's the price you pay for not having to deal with retarded pots (GW, Tamiya, and such).
>>98094049I have both old and new vallejo that never clogged. The cheap third party ones I got never clogged despite being filled with the same paint that caused the ak ones to split/clog in just a month or two.
>>98094000Weird, I've had the opposite issue with my droppers. I'll shake them and take the cap off, but before I even turn them over or squeeze some paint will start coming out and I end up with way more than I want or need on the palette. As much as I hate GW pots, the one thing they have over droppers is that you can take an absolutely minute amount of paint without needing to put down a whole drop.
>>98094125We had perfect flip top pots that would last decades without drying up...we had it so good bros.Only issue was the hinge breaking but other than that they were literally perfect.
>>98094125>but before I even turn them over or squeeze some paint will start coming outthat's one of the things that in the long run cause them to clog or split
>>98094149I think I've solved it by either tapping it on my desk to knock the paint back down or by giving it quick last spin on my vortex mixer. Either that or it's just because I've used them and there's less paint in the bottles now. More testing is needed.
>>98094112Strange, I have multiple Vallejo droppers (both MC and GC, both new and old) and they do clog if I don't clean them after using. It's the nature of the beast, it has nothing to do with the paint itself.
Stupid question - why paints for airbrush require special thinner instead of just water, like with normal brush application?
>>98094258They don't, just use distilled water because tap/well have non-water inclusions whoch cause buildups like calcium or chlorine.
>>98094258it depends on the paint. acrylics actually suck for airbrushing.
>>98094258Helps keep the paint thinned and prevent it drying inside the airbrush. Some thicker paints can be thinned easier and more consistently with airbrush thinner. I live in a dry climate so I also use some flow improver to help prevent dry tip.
Is Vallejo model black still considered the best black paint? I would think that pro acryl would have it beat due to the quality of their paint overall. Or even TTC
>>98094258Because youre not applying them with a brush, are you?You need airbrush thinner (which usually has flow improver/retarded) because that way the paint doesnt dry before it reaches the miniature.
>>98094408'best' in what sense? darkest? most matte?
>>98094408I think AK 3rd Gen has snatched away the 'best black' and 'best white' title from VMC these days
>White paintWhy not use artist white paint like Golden highflow or Soflat? Better and cheaper than hobby paint
>>98094537Try painting a mini with that and report back with results.
>>98094049>Tamiya bottleBloody jap bastard
>>98094544>Try painting a mini with that and report back with results.I mean Titanium white is for small highlight detail though, Painting the whole mini with Titanium white look weird
>>98094554Had a similar experience trying to open tamiyas panel liner some time ago, now I just don't close them too tightly so my girly hands can handle it
>>98094544https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNWRZizZF8g
>>98094572I don't know mr. Youtuber, why are you asking me questions?
>>98094581Because why not?
>>98094537Or thin white acrylic paint with white acrylic ink, can get it very thin while keeping strong opacity.
>>98094588Its cheaper to just buy a bottle of Golden highflow White
>>98094464ak black is very good. vmc was never the best white.
>>98094677What was?
>>98094678nta, but I would argue PA (and I fucking hate their retarded bottles). Then again, AK white + white ink, it just werks.
>>98094458I think in general. So when it comes to coverage, smoothness, how black it actually is, mattness, etc.>>98094464I have a few AK paints but haven't had cause to use them much yet. I don't think anything comes close to pro acryl titanium white though.
WiP of a Blackstar to transport my DW Terminators + Inquisitor.
>>98094587Because I won't answer. I'm looking for tips, not to give tips to random youtubers.
>>98091132>>98091189soaking in acetone overnight and a few more scrubs and picking with a blade finally got them clean enough for repriming
The fridge horde growsI tried things with this one that I didn't like and decided to leave them as a reminder to not do stupid shit.
>>98095026that's cool model hehe
>>98095026I see some Orks in your future.
>>98094909I can't believe there's anything left on them
>>98095159They're my orks anon you can't have any.
It is ever worth it to have brush on primer on hand? Like I recently did kind of a shit job priming a couple models. Missed some big spots and had to take them outside to spray them again. But outside of that rare occurrence the only other time I could think that brush primer might be useful is if you notice a mold line when painting and your scrape it off. Even then it's probably such a small area that it's not worth putting any primer over since the paint probably won't rub off.>tl:drBrush on primer in any case yes or no?
>>98095480No, it sucks. >airbrush>powergap>rattlecan>power abyss>still nothing>yep, nothing>brush on primer
>>98095480>if you own an airbrush you'll have the primer regardless>if you can't use rattlecans for some reason, thinned brush-on primer will get the job done, it's just really slow>it has really good coverage for things like base rims, but there are other, imo better, options for that like acrylic markers
>>98095480>is it worth using brush on primer outside of the exact use case for brush on primer?No, like every tool it has its niche and that niche is cleaning up damage and filling in bits that sprays can't reach.
>>98092020That's a sharp one, m8!
Been working on some custodes stuff, got this guy finished today
>>98095480I only use brush on primer these days. I own an airbrush, but between hot summer and freezing winter I can prime anytime with brush on.
>>98092988That looks awesome. Is it 3D printed? It looks like the side doors are on backwards and they've got that bumpy Nestle Crunch texture you see from 3D print sprue removal.
Done some basic painting on the tracked Repulsor kitbash. Now onto proper weathering.
The sponges that came with my redgrass palette are already wet straight from the plastic package.... that's odd.
>>98095762I mean it's cool and all but it kinda just looks like an irl tank at this point, not a warhammer one
>>98095834I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that's what he was going for.
>>98095834If you've seen other stuff done by RaptorAnon all of his models have a realism angle to them.
I decided to magnetize a model I had already primed and I rubbed a lot of the primer off. Do I need to strip it and then prime, or can I just throw more primer on top?
>>98095963You can just reprime to cover that area. Unless you goop it on you won't lay it on too thick with just one additional layer. How did you rub primer off? THat usually sticks better than paint.
>>98095974It came off fairly easily from normal handling. I do use an air brush to prime so the layers are probably thinner vs. rattlecan.
>>98095963seconding just priming it again, you'll be fine. People play up the concern about paint buildup, you can repaint the same model a bunch of times without stripping it without really messing it up too badly especially if you have reasonably good thinning habits.
>>98095480you can also spray in a cup and brush that on if the weather or whatever does not allow for spraying
>>98094794looking very solid so far
>>98092020you could still give him some highlights... that is ofc if you feel confident about it. if not then its okay.
searches say that parchment paper is waterproof. so does that ACTUALLY work as wet palette paper? I get the feeling that people say it allows the paint to slowly maintain hidration, but I have a suspicion that it's just temperature regulating like an evaporative cooler.
>>98095963if your primer is rubbing off just from handling you should ask yourself whether you need better primer. what brand was it?
I have underestimated this project
>>98092676Wrong, prices are cheaper now
>>98096806(you)for the example of that metal kharn that anon is stripping that cost 8 dollars when it released in 96adjusting for inflation that would be about 17 dollars todayhere's what the modern version of him costs
>>98095480Painful and time consumingI use rattle cams, quick and easy, AB takes too much time to set up and clean up
>>98096525Just think how good it will look when you're done, and break the project down into smaller more manageable parts.
>>98096431Parchment paper is not completely waterproof
>>98096525mmmmm chocolate
>>98095762Love the weathering on the wheels for the treads (not sure if they have a special name lol).I feel like it's super rare to see people cake on mud in places that actually make sense.
>>98095834Thanks anon, >>98095845 is right, that's the point. >>98097231It's just a texture, I will be painting it later. But agreed, and it's fun to do, too.
>>98095762Looking good as usualIs it just my impression or are you using a slightly different green?
>>98097806You have a good eye, anon. I dropped the darker colder green, and went with actual irl military olives. I think it suits Raptors better. I can give you a list, if you are interested.
tried some gold nmm this time, and the other side of the sword
>>98091060Nice skellies anon are these the cursed city ones or the first multipart ones?I've been meaning to start my own skellie army but I've heard bad things in regards to snapping etc
>>98097841You did the "I just do a high frequency sign wave down the sword offset by pi on both sides"Don't do that.
>>98097860NTA, but can you give an example of what to do instead?
>>98097820Good to know I wasn't hallucinatingI liked the more saturated, colder green, but this hue fits them just as well and the milsim vibe you're going for. Now you just need to try your hand at black so you can do my templars vehicles
>>98097860looks about the same as every other nmm tbqh
>>98097820Very interesting, I thought it looked a bit more desaturated than it did before, but I just chalked it up to camera settings.Do you have a side by side of one of your older pieces with one of your newer ones with the new green?
>>98097880I like it, too, but it's too dark of a base to start with. I'm actually planning to kitbash and paint some Iron Hands later (I still want to do the tracked Impulsor and Dreadnought kitbash for Raptors), so I will gladly share any potential findings about painting black vehicles. >>98097895I'll make a photo comparison once I get back home.
>>98097841
>>98097963>I will gladly share any potential findings about painting black vehicles.Great, I'm done with tanks for the moment I think (got an impulsor, land raider and 2 rep ex) but I just like dreads so I'm likely to get some in the future, looking forward to see how you get them done for some inspoSo far I've been just sponging the dust/weathered effect to give the black some visual interest, plus the usual damage highlight and some dirt or rust here and there
>>98098051Yeah, black is a tough color to shade and weather without an entire dedicated workflow. I've been reading about using off-white washes with it and basically doing counter-shading with dust accumulation, but I'll have to test that out first. That said, I love your tonks. The muted black with dark metal looks incredible.
>>98097888Yeah, tons of other people do it too, and it's bad. You should have 1 primary light source, everything else secondaries. and with some interest in color temperature and various sharp and non-sharp value ramps, not just smooth up and down gradients along the whole length of the blade, you can still do that but you need to change how intense they are, not just make them all similar.Also generally I would say you should have the top edge of the blade be overall brighter than the bottom edge.I would advise to look at something like picrel as reference for more interesting NMM. than just making more ups and downs in the gradient. I would even caution to do a sort of less is more. You want to exaggerate things to make it read well but that doesn't just mean adding more gradients. Think of it more like having one overarching gradient, and then adding secondary gradients, they never overpower that main simple one, but they do modulate and add interest to it.
>>98098103forgot pic, it was just a google image example that was decent. Look at any pro painter for reference if you want though, don't just expect the tiktok nmm tutorial to be actually a good idea.
What have you been up to this weekend, /wipg/? I finally finished enlarging my first four mournfangs to match my enlarged ogres.
>>98098154Forgot the image like an absolute retard too.
>>98098154Working (slowly) on my skeleton swat guy, had a minor crash out after a bottle of grey paint was uncooperative but got over it and am now trying to figure out how to put a tinted visor on his helmet since I don't think any kind of wash or glaze is really going to stick to the clear plastic I have
>>98098161what putty is that?
Hot take of the day:If you don't mix your paints you're just painting by numbers, like an 8 year old.
>>98098301obviouslyinb4 the typical sperg, "just paint the model in flat colours, real light will do the shading for you"
>>98098244Brown stuff putty. Similar to greenstuff, but holds sharp edges far better and doesn't really retract when it hardens. A bit more malleable too when soft, but has a fairly short working time.
>>98098301(you), now fuck off.
>>98098309Is it false tho?
>>98098301Post minis
>>98098301painting by numbers is fun.
>>98098301i dont get it
>>98093800Those are fucking sick
>>98098106>Look at any pro painter for referencewhy not look at a real polished metal object? even if you don't have a sword on hand to reference you probably have a kitchen knife. when you look at real life examples you will find that a single face or plane of an object is going to have the same brightness of reflection, and any modulation you see in a photo is actually a just reflection of the person taking the picture and the flash from his camera.