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Dragon Blooded Edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh (embed)
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba (embed)
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6 (embed)
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H (embed)

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL (embed)

>Previous Thread:
>>98082453

>Thread Question
Which new army/legacy army do you want to see released next?
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>TQ
Pygmies along with an expanded Cathay range. The new tigers are fun.
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>TQ
I demand Kislev. Nothing but Kislev or the Hobgoblin Khanate will do.
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>>98091967
I agree. I don't love the tigers in WH3 but I think GW has shown that they have more sense than CA with how they implemented Cathay, the new marauders and the TK character kits over the last year. I think expanded Cathay is going to be great and inevitable but that can wait a bit.
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>>98091974
I actually think CA had more sense with Cathay personally. The gender roles being completely mixed rather than certain units having fixed sexes was a big fucking miss. I also kinda generally preferred how peasants looked in wh3 but that’s neither here nor there.
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>>98091977
In terms of how it's advertised by GW I agree with you on the gender thing too. But at the same time every Cathay kit gives you a metric load of heads so you can build your jade warriors as all male and crane gunners as all women if you want. I guess it's better to have choice rather than no choice, but I get your point too.
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>>98091977
Every unit is a female unit in tww if you so wish it.
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>>98091967
>pic
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They need to reveal new cathay units asap
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>>98091960
New Fimir rules and releases
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>>98092099
I unironically really want Fimir for Beastmen/WoC. If 40gay can have the stupid fucking Zoats then we can have our Irish bog monsters, God damnit.
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>>98092103
They need to do an Albion army
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>>98092113
Using Ceasars memoirs about fighting in britain, I always wanted an albion army to have a unit of light chariots, but that had the ability to once per game deploy a unit of infantry equal in unit strength to the number of remaining chariots.

Either it could be its own mini open order melee unit, or the infantry could function similar to fanatics, in that they are deployed, but instead of doing straight damage, they just end up charging the unit and fighting in melee. They should be like dwarf berserkers in that they have no armor but great melee stats so they go down easy but they take a couple with them. And then the chariots could continue skirmishing against lighter targets.
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>>98092113
People barely care for wood elves to begin with.
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>>98092149
Woad painted humans are cool and all but I want bog monsters. Lots of Fenbeasts.
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>>98092157
There's also the Grey Men from Barony of the Damned (Mousillon).
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Custom themed viking burial mound tomb king with storm cleric heirophants. What do you guys think?
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>>98092262
>northmen mercenaries who served Settra well enough to earn Nehekharan burial rites in a secret tomb
Do it.
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>>98092262
Is this demon souls shrine of storms?
Because if so based
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>>98092262
GW has wanted you to do that with their rules since 6e
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>>98092340
>>98092476
Either of these is cool. The former maybe more so if you ALSO want normal TKs.
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really just looking through the Dwarf army lists for the first time and I think I've found the worst example of internal balance ever

-quarrelers - dwarfs w/ crossbows - 9 pts

-rangers - same as above but 1 better bs, 1 better ws, SCOUT, skirmish, ability to take magic standards, ability to take great weaps - 11pts

Rangers do count as special not core, but with 50% special allowed i'm sure thats never an issue.
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>>98092541
Bretonnia, meanwhile, has
>Bowmen - WS2 BS3 5 pts
>Squires - WS3 BS3 7 pts, move through cover, vanguard, can buy fire and flee + scout for 1 point each
I'm stretched thin points-wise squeezing in 160 infantrymen, so I'll probably be the only Bretfag on the planet to use normal bowmen in skirmish formation.
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>>98092541
Why not take both and drown the enemy in missiles?
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>>98092551
that's bad but the dwarf example is worse
>stretched thin points wise
yeah i think that's the only reason anyone would take these obviously inferior options. what's your list? you mean 160 men at arms?
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>>98092577
the fire in 1 rank thing is annoying, plus quarrelers and rangers are the same models, literally no reason to not just say
>yah these are all rangers
and massively increase their effectiveness. anyways i have 24 Thunderers which is already way too many missile troops in this shit shooting edition of Warhammer.
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>>98090969
UK always has much lower prices compared to the rest of the world
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>>98092607
UK and EU. America gets FUCKED, only Australia fucked harder.
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>>98092583
3 big fucking blocks of men at arms (2 with halberds one with spears), one big block of bowmen, one skirmisher unit of bowmen, and one big unit of crossbow brigands. I haven't Stillmania'd my list just yet though, another version is only 140 doods on foot so I can give Repantsu more bodyguards. God I love Repantsu.
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>>98092647
i'm actually going to start "Stillmania-ing" some future armies having never done it before. tired of projects that spiral into huge monsters that don't ever really end.
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>>98092607
>>98092616
Hello Muhammed, I know it's a bit confusing but allow me to try to explain exchange rates. While the number itself seems higher, which excites you, the actual value of the product is identical. Think about the difference between 6 feet and 183cm. One number looks bigger indeed, but the value is the exact same length. How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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>>98092670
>he doesn't know
lol. lmao.
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>>98092667
Once you've done that, you'll be ready for the next level.
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>>98092670
Please pipe down, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>98092702
>I AM A PREFECT REEEEEE
Shut the fuck up Nigel.
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>>98092750
Go back
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>>98092103
I just hope they re-release the Forgeworld minis instead of doing some CADslop, imo some of the best models GW ever made.
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>>98092670
The prices are much higher in other parts of the world even accounting for exchange rates.
It's cheaper for me to order from the UK in Europe and we're one of the better off places.
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>>98092767
Not really, we have evidence of a WoC refresh coming at some point soonish, but we don't have anything for Wood Elves or Tomb Kings outside of Rumours and a small paragraph in a AJ, which could just mean they're getting a AJ at some point
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>>98092541
You can have one unit of rangers as core. Expeditionary force get two units of rangers for 2K games. Quarrelers might get some play with royal clans but very few people play that AoI.

Rangers are just too good. 4BS core shooting is no brainer.
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As a beastchad with no substantive rumours of new models im chuffed other armies will be eating good in the new future.

My butcher herd hunger for fresh meat
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>>98092992
New models have been shit for the most part.
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Let's see your WoC boys. Need some inspo
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>>98093051
All of Cathay is reasonable to good.
Krawlmaw is good
Duke on peg is good
New tomb characters fuck hard
New empire wizards are good.

I honestly dont know what the fuck your talking about retard-kun
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>>98093073
>All of Cathay is reasonable to good.
Its boring but sure I'll let this pass because I genuinely have no opinions on it.
>Krawlmaw is good
I have no fucking clue who this is
>Duke on peg is good
Absolutely not. The mount is a joke. Actually I take it back, both this model and the new cathay shoegan are both by far the worst models of tow so far.
>New tomb characters fuck hard
They are boring.
>New empire wizards are good.
a bit busy but out of the 4 3 of them are good, sure.
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>>98093087
The shugengan is kind of ass but surely the title of worst model goes to the foot knights?
>out of 4 empire wizards 3 are good
Aren't there only 3?
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>>98092855
>evidence
Your uncle who works at Nintendo pinky swear honest is not evidence
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>>98093144
'Evidence' might be a bit of a strong word for it. But the Halberd kit for the WoC is gone from the store now, and was previously listed as 'Sold out'. So something probably is going on there.
Plus the Marauders got new minis, it would be reasonable to expect the similarly aged Warriors to get new minis soonish too.

>>98093070
Mine are still waiting to get some colour on them after getting based. Maybe after the weekend, anon.
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>>98092855
We have multiple people who have correctly leaked things in the past saying the Wood Elf/Tomb King thing is legit. Granted many of them are also saying that the WoC refresh is coming, but they all say it's a seperate thing.
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>>98091969
I also require Kislev.
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>>98093051
The only bad kits have been the Foot Knights and that Nuln General.
Everything else has been solid to great looks wise.
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Were there any fan expansions or remakes of the 6E Kislev armybook? Preferably something compatible with 6th and 7th editions and not WAP.
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>>98093051
Post models.
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The obvious release 3 for Cathay would be to do it themed around the Western Provinces right? All the remaining stuff from their Total War roster that isn't playable is basically all stuff either directly associated with Zhao Ming like Tiger Warriors and Alchemists, or it's associated with the Moon Empress whose favourite child is Zhao Ming. If we're getting a wave 3 anytime soon that really does seem the most obvious AoI to go along with it, like how we got the Warriors of Wind and Field for all the Peasant units.
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>>98093222
of the stuff shown off so far in TWW3 then yeah sure
Not really sure what Alchemist would do differently from an Astromancer in TOW since Astromancers get a ton of Magic lores, they really shouldn't like High Magic.
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>>98093228
If I were doing it I'd say can't access High magic but can access dark magic (they use warpstone a lot), only available up to wizard level 3, and can wear heavy armour (channeling lore of metal lets you take it).
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>>98093222
Most of the other units are more Yuan Bos and therefore the central provinces thing like crowmen, celestial lions etc.
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>>98093073
>Duke on peg is good
Opinion discarded.
>t. resident Bretonnia autist
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>>98093273
Is he not a rape missile? Pretty vow dependent but I feel like between vows and mobility they delete Lords and Monsters.
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>>98093222
The more interesting thing to me is how they'd do zhao ming (and the other dragon primarchs if they ever make it) himself
I took a look at the ingame models and it's basically the same as miao except a different head
In model form it seems like you'd be best of with an upgrade sprue honestly
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>>98093222
>zhao ming
>war compass / war drum
>lion statue
>crossbows sprue for jade warriors
>special characters sprues for sentinels
>bashiva
>tigermen heroes
>tigermen warriors
>cathayan ogres

>(larger sky lantern)
>(peasants cavalry)
>(longma cavalry)
>(dragon guards)
>(crowmen unit)
>(celestial lion)
>(moon bird)
>(monkey king)
>(monkey heroes)
>(monkey warriors)
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>>98091969
Hobgoblins would be fucking awesome model-wise, but gameplay-wise, how would they differ from just taking a bunch of goblins and wolves?
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>>98093375
the rules would be updated to make the older goblins trash if not outright out of production and left unsupported, so you would buy the newer kits instead
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>>98093375
I kinda wish they'd give them something weirder than wolves, I don't want to parallel lines of wolf riders.
Even if it would be surreal to have normal wolves in aos, and weird creatures in basic fantasy.

God, this divorce is a mess.
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>>98093390
Ideally all TOW stuff should be playable in aos and all AoS except a few* should be playable in TOW.


*stormcasts, cities, fyreslayers, kharadron, lumineth, idoneth
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>>98093276
We're talking about the model ya dingus. But yes, Dukes/Barons are herohammer even with no magic items or virtues; also, virtues are now divided between Errant/Realm/Questing/Grail/Exile Vows and everything else is called Virtue of [X].
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>>98093419
Gw did a retarded split on all games because they hate the idea of you using the same model for 2 different systems.
Its why all the heresy ones got squatted from 40k. Hopefully they realise how fucking stupid it is especially with fantasy and AoS so we can just have a few "duel range" kits and be done with it.
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>>98093429
And they can't even keep that consistent because of stuff like AoS and TOW sharing squigs and spiders and Custodes in 40k having full access to 30k shit. Just a mess.
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>>98093438
Rather they dropped the ball completely, or are slowly rolling back the idea. I honestly cannot tell with this company.
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>>98093341
I could see them repackaging the dragon to be one that you can make the three main ones out of one set like the Mortarch set in AoS.
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>>98093375
I know a leaker said at one point Hobgoblins were considered, it wouldn't surprise me if it was just reworked into that all cavalry Orcs and Goblins list.
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>>98093375
Bring in the fucking Squiggoth and replace the weapons platform on top with a yurt and hobgoblin archers. Since in lore they vary in size according to their feed, you can even squeeze in a smaller variant as monstruous cavalry to mix with the notmal wolves.
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>>98091969
>>98093375
A hobgoblin khanate would kick so much ass
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>>98093375
Attack birds. Eagles, vultures, or some shit like flying squigs, pick your preference.
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>>98093537
For some reason I really don't like the idea of squigs with hobgoblins. They're a bit too silly maybe. Or maybe it's just that I can't imagine squigs moving great distances across the plains.
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>>98093548
not all squigs are ball squigs
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>>98093548
I get what you mean, the idea of those silly meatballs hopping around does somewhat clash. But since you already got sleekr, edgier goblins in the hobgoblins themselves, I don't see why you couldn't get sleeker, edgier squigs to pair them up with them.
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Perennial TOW doomer LGS owners seem to be pretty Bullish for TOW's future if it gets a new edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfFpR6vNU8c
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>>98093571
>>98093579
I think someone needs to make a cool design to sell the idea, but I suppose it's possible.
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>>98091969
if kislev models look ANYTHIGN like how thy thy do in total war warhammer 3 I will not give these angolo faggots any fucking money im still to this vary fucking day SEETHING because I FUCKING HATE HOW SHIT THESE LOOK fucking AOS teir bull shit holy shit Fucking fire bomb nottingham NOW
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>>98093631
Unironically kislev is too whacky for aos lmao
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>>98093631
Here's older art for Wiong Hussars for reference
They certainly made the wider and added more details and fur to them, but the general armour and weapons has remained the same
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>>98093617
aw man what do you mean, I thought TOW was booming
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>>98093623
have one for a character mount
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>>98093686
Being bullish is a good thing anon means being optimistic and confident about the product/assets' future.
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>>98093631
monke
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>>98093687
and another
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>>98093737
kinda like this fanart from a couple of years ago
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What's even the point of Heralds of Darkness? Sure you get a bit of a bonus to charge (but the way swiftstride works how tf do you fail a cavalry charge anyway), but then the excessive core requirements mean it actually ends up being a less elite list than taking an all mounted Grand Army list right?
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>>98093631
it feels good to be on the right side of a company
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>>98093617
-2024 numbers (tow/aos 4th edition launch)
>tow
1.9%
>aos
8.1%
>40k
16%
-2025
>tow
1.5%
>aos
5.9%
>40k
19%
-2026 (so far)
>tow
0.6%
>aos
5.3%
>40k
18.3%
I mean overall kind of expected, aos and tow both went down 1/4 going from 2024 to 2025, nothing surprising considering 2024 was a big year for both. Then yeah with tow being ignored it's not surprising that it dropped so low in 2026. AoS also losing a bit more ground, but iirc the only big release they had this year has been the CoS stuff that's still ongoing so I suppose that makes sense.
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>>98093826
surely it makes more sense to compare TOW to HH as a leading but still specialist game.
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Old world numbers are crashing....
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>>98093631
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9mWGxy
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>>98093631
nobody would buy kislev regardless of how well executed it is
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>>98092551
Bowmen have free skirmish though.
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>>98093870
They're also in there I was just to lazy to write them down
I believe it was something like 2.5% in 2024 and then 5% in both 2025 and 2026
2025 was a launch year for them so not surprising but them keeping that momentum in 2026 is kind of surprising. Maybe because of the custodes because those are 40k compatible? That's a can of worms I don't wanna get into lol.
They do say that they're kind of an outlier when it comes to heresy because they're all fans, they talk about it a lot, do events, etc.
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Today has been a very good day, gentlemen.
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>>98093826
What are these percentages supposed to be?
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>>98093929
Total revenue of their store.
He mentions for example that between 2024 and 2025 tow has stayed the same in absolute numbers, but since everything else has grown in numbers (also inflation ofc) the relative share has gone from 2.1% to 1.5%
Also worth nothing that despite the aos/tow shitflinging both had their best year together in 2024, and they seem to be losing ground to 40k/heresy respectively instead of each other
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>>98093929
It's a percentage of their overall shop sales
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>>98093944
unlike popular belief, the overlap between aosfags and fantasyfags is still enormous and the products for one are received by the wider consumerbase as products for the other as well.
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>>98093945
That looks abysmally low. ToW boxes tend to be on the bulky side due to the use of old sprues and the large number of models per box so that could be another reason for retailers to be reluctant to stock them.
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>>98093950
>unlike popular belief, the overlap between aosfags and fantasyfags is still enormous
literally everybody knows this to be true, it's only the shitposters here pretending otherwise for some reason
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>>98094033
In the video he's standing behind a full shelf of tow stock, it's not really a supply issue.
Besides idk 1/4th of aos sales seems pretty normal (we'll ignore the abyssmal 2026 numbers for now because they've released next to nothing this year). Aos itself is 1/2 to 1/3 the size of 40k. These kinds of things are also pretty area dependant, nothing about those numbers seem at all unreasonable to me. The only thing that surprises me is that apparently supplies are like half their revenue.
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>>98091969
Yeah, Kislev would be awesome.
A brand new plastic range based on Total Warhammer units (with only a couple of MTO models, to entice old folk that want 34 y/o minis).
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>>98094060
It’s also a store in NA. Fantasy has always performed much better in Europe. And from Europe we have one of the largest global retailers of GW product out of Spain that said a few months ago that AoS has been struggling since TOW came out. And this is a chain that is responsible for 2% of all global GW sales.
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>>98093876
Good, the only way to make this game great again is to separate the wheat from the chaff. Once the TWW and AoS/40kucks are gone we will thrive once again
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>>98093950
This might be true for buying models because obviously, but out of all the tow players I know not a single one plays aos. I know a few who played during the dark ages only. And yes I know plenty, I go to events and I'm part of the local wargaming club where they all play.
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>>98094060
>>98094101
I swear to god I will NEVER understand this retarded tribalist attitude people have. I want both games(and 40k too) to do well because that means we'll get more cool stuff. Where does this "us vs them" mentality comes from? I have literally never seen it outside of this shithole, is it all shitposting and I just fell for it like a retard?
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>>98094140
GW themselves feed into it more than anyone else
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>>98094140
>I have literally never seen it outside of this shithole
Bwah it's not uncommon to see in other places online, but I can't say I've heard this sentiment irl either no. Some light banter between friends at best.
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>>98094140
#1 Shadenfreude.
#2 GW hasn't made cool shit in years.
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>>98094121
This but unironically. A small handful of chosen men, passionate and serious, will ALWAYS reign supreme over the unwashed rabble and mass appeal bugman.
WHFB/TOW needs to be in the same state as Mordheim, ie. Left behind by all except the most enthusiastic fans, and enjoyed by them more now than ever.
Look at any Mordheim even, it's filled to the brim with SOVL: every single model is painted and named, has a backstory, every single player contributed to the terrain, people spend years handling the most immersive and sovlful tables and game boards to really set the state and pull you in, people are there to have FUN, nevermind 'winning.'
Compare that to TOW after it's mass adoption by the masses, the commoners, the disgusting normies. ENDLESS slop: no army is paint, no terrain is built, no army has a Stillman-esque backstory, constant listslop and tournament cuckoldry, zero narration, zero immersion...

It's time to RETVRN
>pic unrelated
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>>98092914
Yeah ws4 bs4 skirmish scouting unit for 11pts meanwhile regular dorf with gun is 10 pts. Crazy.
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>>98094187
Not my experience at all. Do you actually play TOW?
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>>98094121
>>98094187
Retarded.
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>>98094204
You are responding to a guy that not only doesn't play TOW or Fantasy, but has no models. Just ignore his bait and report him for off topic if you see him spamming his off topic historical photos.
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>>98094132
Packing knights with lances for overseas shipping is horrid and almost makes me wish I never started Bretonnia.
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>>98094204
>Not my experience
Care to post even a single pic of your experiences that prove me wrong?
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>>98094221
Board etiquette demands you post your models first. Which you can't do, because you don't own any models.
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>>98094230
>board etiquette
yo everybody check out this nigga thinks he's on reddit lmfao
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>>98094211
Yeah, makes sense and my bad. Why does every general on this damned website have their own unmedicated schizo shitposter on permanent watch?
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>>98094239
It's just one guy here. The manlet. I think his girl must have left him this week or he lost his job because he has been on all day every day for the past 3-4 days trying to derail like it's his job.
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>>98094187
I would actually agree with everything here if it wasn't for who posted it.
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>>98093917
What chaos thing am i looking at here?
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>>98094264
NTA but I think it's a chaos lord on Manticore? I think it's the one who has gone in battle against Cathay a few times and posted pics of it here.
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>>98094187
Post models or shut the fuck up, negroid
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>>98094247
Yeah, but there's at least one federally mandated schizo in every general.
Not surprising, given the amount of mentally ill could that frequent this site.
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>>98094311
It comes with the territory. Also the jannies have no idea what is or isn't on topic here. Or they don't care to enforce the board rules. Who knows. But it's still better than the alternative of the overly enforced safe spaces of reddit or discord.
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Good news/imminent news lads. The Warriors of Chaos kit has been completely removed from the NA webstore.
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>>98094337
How is that good news? The warriors/knights were the only good part of the range left.
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>>98094337
It took a couple of weeks from that happening to the announcement of the maruders last year, so the new Kits are still probably 6 weeks off at minimum
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>>98094337
Since when has refreshing classic models been a good thing?
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>>98094271
Anon there are a dozen arms.
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>>98094117
Definitely way more interesting than some Russians.

>>98094219
My condolences, anon. Where in glorious Yurop will you join us?

>>98094264
Looks like a bunch of 5th ed WoC anon is building.

>>98094337
Still up in Yurop. But interestingly you guys still have the halberd kit that is removed over here.
And while checking other regions I saw that in Australia the Champion with additional hand weapon is sold out there.
So I'd say something is definitely up in the background. Either that or I should start getting some meds.
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>>98094485
>the Champion with additional hand weapon is sold out there.
It's a metal kit, so that doesn't surprise me if this WoC refresh comes with Chaos Lord with Banner on a Demonic horse and Foot option as well
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>>98094264
You're looking at the newest recruits for my warband, anon! Chaos warriors from 1997 (or 1998, I still haven't found a reliable source regarding when exactly GW started packaging this kit with the metal halberd & alternate command squad bits), sealed and entombed in a box for 29 years!
The guy in the top right is Dehumanizer, my erstwhile Daemon Prince. He was made from a chaos renegade with a heavy bolter and a Citadel chimera. He's awful. His many inglorious deeds include failing to kill a single empire hero over three turns and then exploding to death the instant he remembered how to actually hit things, getting sent screaming back to the Realm of Chaos by a single cast of Viletide on two separate occasions, somehow managing to never survive beyond turn three in any game he's ever been in, and also failing to cast a single spell for five games in a row. He's been demoted to just being a chaos lord on a daemonic mount as a result and he's lucky he wasn't permanently benched like a certain sorcerer lord who shan't be named.
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>>98094508
That would be sick to finally get a plastic dual kit. Although I hope they don't replace the current Lord on Demonic Mount. It's such an iconic mini.
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>>98094211
What did he post that was off topic? You post that a dozen times a thread, but what is actually off topic besides the pic? This general is dying enough as it is, no need for you to to try to stifle the rare conversation around here
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>>98094666
Shut the fuck up already retard
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>>98094666
This anon is our local schizo, he thinks every post he disagrees with is the Perryfag and will do his best to derrail the thread when that happens. As much as he accuses the manlet of always shitting on the thread (which, fair enough, he tends to do) the schizo is just as detrimental to the wellbeing of this general.
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>>98094676
Chimpin out
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>>98094508
>>98094646
I would be shocked if they didn’t come out with a chaos dragon champion/lord/sorcerer kit for WoC. Seems like such an obvious gap in the range and they love selling expensive character centrepiece models.
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>>98094676
Best just to let him talk to himself. His samefagging is so obvious it's funny in a way to laugh at his schizo convos with himself.
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Kislev soon lads...I can feel it.
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>>98094842
>EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS THE SAME GUY!!
Wow you solved it Sherlock Homes
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>>98094822
>gap in the range
Wdym anon? There's been a chaos dragon available for the past 3 years!
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>>98094897
There was also the dark elf dragon. Honestly though I want there to be less dragons in the game, I’m so fucking sick of seeing it even if it’s not as oppressive as it used to be.
Might as well drop in this hot take, but centerpieces look incredibly fucking dumb in this game. I can stomach something like the ghorgon or the Preston, but dragons of pretty much all variety are all stupid looking, especially the tomb king dragon. They also are enshittifying what should be smaller mounts into literal toys like the shoe gun and peg lord.
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>>98094337
>beloved kit discontinued in favor of getting a remake that's doubly unnecessary because they already remade it for another game
I'm not exactly thrilled
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>>98094931
>I'm not exactly thrilled
Do not think, just consume.
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I'm confuse, guys. Are ghouls undead or not?
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>>98094954
In most cases no.
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What army allows me to maximize my shooting output?
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>>98094954
They're mutants
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>>98094842
Perrychad has legitimately driven you insane
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>>98094962
most cases? so sometimes they are not?
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>>98095017
Nta but the ghoul kings are vampires of the strigoi bloodline and therefore undead
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>>98093887
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9mWGxy
why did you link this?

its shit and i already know it

>>98093892
why not?
>>98094089
I will beat the fucking shit out of you before toruching GW head quarters NO NO NO WOW NU-KISLEV

IT SHOULD BE BASED FANTASY SLAVS NOT CRINGE WOW NORMGROID DOTA AOS SHIT

Pic related IS WHAT THY SHOULD HAVE DONE ITS ALL THY HAS TO DO SATANIC FURRY TRNAYY SUY AIDS SHIT TASTE CRINELLENNIALS WHO THOUGHT WOW AND CAPE SHIT LOOKED COOL WORK IN THE ART DEPARTMENT AT THAT HELL COMPANY IN NOTTINIGN NO I DONT WANT 30 YEAR MINIS (maybe them in plastic) I WANT NEW KISLEV not NU-KISLEV I WANT BASED TARTAR-MONOGL, RUSSO-UKRANIO-POLISH BALTIC-FINNO-URALIC SNOW SLAVS THAT RIDE BEARS AND HAVE A COOL GROUNDED,SMEI-GROUNDED HISTORICAL INSPERED FANTASY ASETHETIC AND KILL CHAOS FURRY TRANNY SHANNOR WORSHIPERS FROM THE NORTH NOT FUCKING CRITICAL ROLE REDDIT TRANNY SLOP AND LE HEKIN ICE AND BEARS
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>>98094967
Empire handgonners protected my a stake filled ditch, protected with a thin line of Empire halberdier!!!

Alternatively, undead can bring a ton of bows quite cheaply
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>>98094954
alive but heavily mutated due to cannibalism
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>>98094552
Ah nice! I am just old enough to remember seeing those og chaos warriors. I only just started playing 40k back then but I thought they were cool.
>them bases
Is that TOW size or not? Imo the new bigger base size was a big win.
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>>98095044
>IT SHOULD BE BASED FANTASY SLAVS
Let me redirect you to soulblight Gravelords
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>>98095060
>Age or Smegmar shit

Ok your trolling me
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>>98094967
Wood elves.
https://youtu.be/II8h2gXriIg?
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>>98094187
You know he is right. I remember these threads from the times when there was nothing on the horizon. People played whatever edition they liked the most and were more or less civil. Yes, these were slow threads with not that many posters, but content-wise they were better than the current state of wfg (with the small exception e.g. you may be tired of beastposters, but they provide both painted minis and recaps of their battles)
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>>98095066
I thought we were trolling the moment we were pretending someone wanted Slav shit
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>>98095080
what I was the nigger that wanted slav shit I just want my slav shit to y,know NOT LOOK LIKE SHIT
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>>98095087
That’s like asking for water to not be wet.
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>>98095047
Both options sound fun, thank you.
>>98095071
The local club has five Wood Elf players and I believe three High Elf.
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>>98095047
>my a stake filled ditch
Stinking, swarthy Tilean hands typed this post.
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Giovanni_Marmalodi
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>>98095047
Hell yeah.. Anything that evokes the image of your hero yelling "HOOOOOLD THE LINE!!!!" is based indeed
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>>98095044
>its shit and i already know it
>IT SHOULD BE BASED FANTASY SLAVS NOT CRINGE WOW NORMGROID DOTA AOS SHIT
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kD0kRK
>"honoring my Eastern European heritage"
Are you schizo then ? You literally got Slavic Kislev made by a Slav.
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>>98091960
nippon. GW has pretty much never done a full japanese themed army, and most samurai models out there are crap or insanely expensive metals
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>>98095044
You and your bitching.
Take this, apply Citadel Skulls liberally, and you're done.
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>>98095074
You know, you do make an interesting point. We shit on beastmen players, but when I think about it, they are consistently the ones playing with a fully painted army and hand-crafted terrain.

I think I shall not talk shit any longer.
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>>98095074
>Yes, these were slow threads
They were faster than the ones we have now
>they post recaps of their battles
Only the dude with his white goats does, he's incidentally also the only good beastposter. The other ones just post ai slop of female beastmen
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>>98095366
>insanely expensive metals
So kind of like Bretonnia if you don't want to play with dollar store Monty Python plastics
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>>98095389
The scale on these is fuckaroo'd for Warhammer. Bought some of their crusaders trying to cheap out on Bretonnians and was disappointed.
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>>98093887
>>98094089
CA completely outdid GW in total war. Chaos dwarfs too. GW should quite literally just copy them over to minis and be done with it

Come at me grumpy grogs
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>>98095517
>GW should quite literally just copy them over to minis
They kind of did, they made an entire new kroxigor subspecies because they realized the total war version was a lot better than just "saurus but bigger" aesthetically
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>>98093876
Is that the channel that posts a "TOW is dying" every other month?
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>>98095366
Doesn't Warlord do a full Sengoku range in plastic?
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>>98095564
It's WGF shit though, so don't use it.
Fireforge makes much better Sengoku Japanese, but their issue is they're closer to Warhammer in size, and it just looks dumb to have them be that tall.
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>>98095541
Yes. But tbf they are the ones trying to sell it.
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>>98093390
>something weirder than wolves
Hobhounds
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I have a Tomb King on Necrolith Bone Dragon and wanted to have my Hierophant on dragon as well. I have an old Zombie Dragon not being used - pic related, if I toss it on a properly sized rectangle base and attach the Priest do you think I will get any complaints?
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>>98095755
Hyena ASS
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>>98095756
If you put in the effort to replace the muscle with some kind of bandaging or bone construct look then it'd look great. Zombies do not belong in TKs
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>>98095776
I felt a preserved zombie might be cool for a Liche Priest considering that is similar to what they are. I would of course add proper ornamentation and maybe a harness/bandages to show mummification. You do make an excellent point, however. Thanks Anon.
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>>98093876
Why don't these wankers make actual content instead of being parasites off the back of GW releases?

Like who cares to watch some manchild alternating between wishlisting and blackpilling?

Produce some actual content. Make a terrain tutorial, show off some painted miniatures, make a well edited battle report, something of substance instead of this doomwank
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>>98095823
Anon you cant just call out 99% of the warhammer youtubers out there.
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>>98095823
They run a game store. They blog on YT as a side thing. Also kind of a running gag that they dunk on TOW, in the vid he says while sales fell off in 2026 there has been almost no TOW activity in 2026 so w/e
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>>98093617
The dude goes out of his way to example he isn't a doomer, and if anything, wishes GW would make an actual fucking effort in TOW
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>>98095823
Too much effort for too little returns.
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>>98094140
No no... 40k can still get fucked
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>>98095044
> Based
> Slav
Lmao remember to save a grenade for yourself when you hear the drones whining Vladoslav
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>>98095756
>>98095781
It will be fine, actually if anyone would complain they would be doing you a favor because you know to avoid them in the future. Well preserved mummies have tissue like you said, doesn't even need bandages imo. I would more worry about the saddle/howdah portion but do what you want.

Emissary of Setra has no bandages besides on one foot fwiw
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>>98095865
you know ukranians are slavs to right?
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>>98095881
Thanks for your input, Anon. The saddle/howdah will be the tricky part. Might need to resort to a 3D print or plastic card and the bitz box for improvise something.
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>>98095882
Ukrainians are descended from vikings, thus are both white and human unlike the slavs and the irish.
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>>98094954
They are alive but wretched/degenerated from eating human flesh/brains.
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>>98095286
The Ice Maiden designs are so great. They need to hurry the fuck up and release Kislev already.
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>>98093537
I like the birds. Squigs feel too goofy and chaotic for them.
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Have any of you lads ever played THIRD edition??

>>98095958
2/10
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snotling swarms are fucking tricky and tedious to paint lol. theres a lot of these tiny fuckers and a lot of awkward angles
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>>98096169
warhammer used to be so kino, it's actually insane how cool it was it the 80s and 90s
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>>98096378
I worry about the quality of the artist at GW over time, Or the obsession with on model promotional material, when what really helps the game is the art that sells the narrative. Honestly as I get older, The more I value art, I think manual labor is very important, but I think 90% of while collar work is pointless and worthless in comparison to art.
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>>98096396
Art is 100x more valuable than labor. Labor is the pursuit of slaves

Anyways, I think you're correct in that what made oldhammer so appealing was the art, the 'feeling' and immersion, the books and illustrations really pulled you into the setting and filled your head with wonder and imagination. Nowadays they always use stupid ass studio shots of tons of studio painted minis lined up, which doesn't pull you into the setting or world at all, it just looks like someone lined up their toy collection - which is exactly what it is.

To put it simply:
SOVL vs Soulless
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Im going to guess that was print beast anon above.
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kislev is gay and boring. if i wanted to play ziggers i'd play beastmen
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>>98096435
>MODERN GEOPOLITICS OMG GOOD VS EVIL!!!!!
Goyim
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>>98096408
I dunno, I found peace in labor, even when i was barely making more than minimum wage working hard at a moderately sized airport, I felt that at least the sweat of my work went into making people happy. But sales is pure soul sucking gaslighting you into being a manipulative asshole.

What I find interesting is that I love all the old art, the grim dark and the technicolor comedy. They are all equally valid and represent the various tones of the setting sometimes horribly brutal thoughts on the value of a life, or fucking hilarious ways for some hauty asshole to eat shit. As long as its soulful and its not just a model catalogue.
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>>98096435
Kislev can be gay or cool depending how GW decides to do it. If they go the Total War route it will be gay as fuck, but there is a high percentage chance the piggies slop it up. If they go the Cossack with some fantastical embellishment route it will be cool as hell
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>>98095366
i got an entire metal undead samurai army for 100 aussie dollars from Zenit way back.
I remember getting it as protest over the prices of blood knights. So id have a unit of undead samurai as knights.
Pretty sure Zenit stuff is made by Juan Diaz so its warhammer like. They also do not undead too



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