Previous: >>98088964Sol Ring Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>Required viewinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44sTQ: You must ban ten cards from the format. No more, no less. Which ones do you choose, and why?Hard mode: No cards that are already GCs. Assume they're already banned or you're a B2 player making more GCs.
>Dominarian healthcare
>>98092865>furry porn in the OP
>>98092927me when i lie
>>98092733based and jackpilled
These two need to link up
>>98092865>TQ hard modeDisplacer kitten, nyxbloom ancient, gemstone cavern, deflecting swat, Vivi, Yuriko, Urza, mana drain, T3feri, KorvoldI don't know, banning some of these before all the fast mana that makes this game too fast for its own good seems retarded anyway. A few of them would only go really crazy after the game slows down anyway.
>>98093010>Nyxbloom Ancient7-drop that makes more mana (because somehow 7 mana wasn't enough for whatever retarded plan is cooking) with no protection and you have a problem with this because...?>Gemstone CavernsGenuinely so shit that people don't board it in 60-card where it's guaranteed to always be live and matters drastically more.
In hindsight, were you perhaps too harsh on Theros Beyond Death?
>>98093043Those were just the first ones that came to mind. And as I've said, some would be more of a problem after some fast mana ban, like Nyxbloom.Also as if anyone actually pays 7 mana for a 7 mana creature instead of just reanimating it with one of the 6 viable reanimate spells plus some commanders. And then when it's out, gets copied over and over again for ridiculous mana bumps.
>>98093062>Reanimate creature>In a scenario you can access literally any creature without paying its cost>Somehow Nyxbloom Ancient was the problem here
>>98092970Run them both in the 99 of Don Andres
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98092865>TQArcane SignetDeadly RollickFierce GuardianshipDeflecting SwatJeska's WillYurikoKinnanThassa's OracleRograkhThe Ur-Dragon
>>98093270Why?I could be convinced of it I think. I dislike how early face attacks rarely do anything and in general health is meaningless because someone just gets an unstoppable board state. But how does 30 health fix any of this?
>>98093010>T3feriHate this bastard, can't understand how it's not a GC.
>>98092865>TQ:Beseiju, Otowara, Sol Ring, Chord of Calling, Swords to Plowshares, DEFLECTING SWAT, Mana Drain, Esper Sentinel, Mystic Remora, ScapeshiftI wanna ban every lotus cobra but it's been made so redundant it's impossible.
>>98092865>TQarcane signetchromatic lanternrampant growthcultivatekodama's reachall 5 dual color signets
>mana rock haters What does removing them actually accomplish? Adding ten minutes of land you go to the start of each game? More complaints about mana screw?
>>98093533Typical sol ring player has no conception of the game other than tard-ramp into a haymaker.
post 'em
>>98092865>You must ban ten cards from the format. No more, no less. Which ones do you choose, and why?>Hard mode: No cards that are already GCs. Assume they're already banned or you're a B2 player making more GCVorinclexJin GitaxisCraterhoofDisplacer KittenMana DrainMystic RemoraSylvan LibraryEtaliEntombRoaming ThroneDoing this from the perspective of adding these cards to the GC list to ban them from B2 play.
>>98093533I think it would force players to be more careful in their assessment of their mana bases, and would ultimately prevent more non-games from happening.Here's something I've seen a ton. Someone keeps a 2 land hand because they've got an arcane signet too. They get to turn 4 or whatever, they haven't seen another land because they're already only running 34 (they've got mana rocks!) then someone decides to hit their signet with a Reclamation Sage or it's an incidental hit to a Vandalblast or Meltdown, and all of a sudden they're basically out of the game.It's passe at this point but that video about pulling out mana rocks was actually pretty right. Most of them are pretty bad. Adding MDFCs and extra lands and making sure you hit a land drop every turn is way more important than playing a signet.
>>98093769Kaldheim: Squirrelstorm
>>98093769I'm making a deck with a little bit of mutate and this guy has never looked better
>>98092865Fuck your hard modeSol RingRhystic StudyThe One RingChrome MoxMox Diamond
>>98093980Mox Diamond kind of self-selects out of most decks
Millennial Writing Ring
is jaws going to be reprinted?
>>98094035how would we know
For casual games where tempo doesn't matter as much I've started building every part of the deck with card advantage in mind and I'm consistently finding it easier to fly under the radar with card advantage. No big alarm bell draw 20s, just always keeping a full grip. Good players ask cards in hand constantly, and everyone thinks I'm holding Jeska's Will when I ask.
>>98094080it's crazy how hard Land Tax flies under the radar despite drawing three cards a turn if you're not going first
>>98094148It's an alarm bell card in my locals thankfully. I anticipate the scroll rack every time.
Be honestIf I play this guy, he's never going to survive to get a trigger, is he?
>>98094171I would have to be stupid to waste two cards removing this. It folds to grave-hate, one of the most subsidized interaction points in the game.
>>98094171I like his popped collar. It makes him look like a renegade. Someone who plays by his own rules and sticks it to The Man. Very cool.
>>98094171i hate the fucked up colors in this one because from a glance it looks like he's shirtless
>>98094171You're in black. Once you've paid the initial tax of 6, you can just reanimate him when he dies.
>>98093584Breyafag reporting in.I wanted to slot in a lodestone golem but I can't find the copy I know I have and its driving me mad.>>98094148I've never seen land tax fly under the radar, its like playing a Sylvan Library
Exorbitantly wealthy rakshasa girls
>>98094265are you me this is like exactly how i build decks, the stax, the old prints...love it
>>98094265Beautiful deck, anon. SOVL
>>98093515...there's ten 2c signets
>>98094301enemy colors are not real magic, they don't count
>>98094265I hate that brackets mean this deck doesn't have a real home.
>>98093980That's 5. You need 10.
>>98092865>TQGaea's CradleAncient TombRhystic StudySol RingChrome MoxThe Tabernacle at Pendrell ValeMana VaultMox DiamondArcane SignetCommand Tower
>>98094351I don't think I've ever talked to someone in-person who gives a fuck about brackets. When I play with randoms, which isn't frequent I've tried a "what kind of game do we wanna have?" question and come to the conclusion that most people either only have one deck or have already decided on a deck before sitting down.
>>98094515Surprising. Every store I go to people won't shut up about brackets.
>>98094159>>98094265then I guess everyone at my LGS is an idiot
What are the closest redundancies for Smokestack and ways to keep up with the sacrifices?For Smokestack itself I've only been able to find Descent into Madness and for ways of keeping up with the sacrifices, just Assemble the Legion. Smokestack isn't good enough unless it is either ramped out very quickly or if it sticks around until X = 3 or 4 I find.I'm planning WBR for colors because I don't want to dip into 4c or 5c. Was thinking Marchesa as the commander.
>>98094602Finding a playgroup deranged enough to let you play game 2 after finding out what your deck is.
>>98089885>really want to make a deck, unrelated>spent $60 on the deck, choosing some cards over others based on a $0.03 differential, minimal cost to avoid wife freakout>wife throws a fucking fit, i'm wasting money, etc. Etc.>yes yes honey, ill be content for a while>see this Rasaad / Dungeon Delver deck idea>want to make itFuck.
>>98093591>CraterhoofWTF the player with 20 creatures played an anthem and killed me!
>>98094671The problem with hoof is green to battlefield tutors are too good. In a lot of games it practically means that if green gets enough creatures they have 4 copies of hoof.
>>98092865>TQTORsmothering titherhystic studyfarewellhullbreaker horrorevery ikoria "if you control a commander" free spell yes even the green one
>>98094515>>98094523I go to two different stores and it's interesting to see one where no one gives a shit about brackets (that has a pub stomp problem) and another that is absolutely insufferable about brackets (and has an annoying noob players problem). The former you have players casting vamp tutor turn 2 every game, the latter you have players you have to explain cascade to despite the fact they've been playing for over a year.
Would you consider ninjas good for duel commander, or I am better going with some form of red aggro?
>want to build Sivriss Haunted One because of the recent influx of cool warlocks >hate combos and this guy randomly rube goldberg combos by playing cardsFuck.
I want that fucking book.
>>98094710Are you trying to argue Craterhoof is the only overrun effect in green? 4 copies of Craterhoof doesn't magically make the card cost less mana unless you're going down the road of manacheat cards like Monster Manual, at which point you could just start cheating out any number of expensive creatures that don't require you to have a board to win.
>>98094827?
>>98094632Hilarious. I guess disliking stax and being illiterate go hand in hand.
>>98094976You asked what the closest redundancy is, and I correctly told you a group that lets you play game 2.
Uhm, isn't this art a bit problematic?
I don't understand this meme but maybe you do.
>>98094456Any 5 cards from Avatar idgaf
>>98092865>TQ (but not really)In order of least to most important to remove:Every mana card that garenteed produces more or as much as it costs.Every Game Changer.All MLD.All color pie breaks unless overcosted.All of the carded rated the top 100 saltiest on edhrec for every recorded year.All 5-color commanders.
>>98094035>Licensed mechanically unique SL only cardLiterally never ever.
>>98095035I forgot:All Universes Beyond cards, not sure where to put it on the list.
>>98095023Reference to a page spread of the viltrumite antagonists in Invincible
>>98092865>TQForestIslandMountainPlainsSnow-covered Forest Snow-covered IslandSnow-covered Mountain Snow-covered PlainsSnow-covered SwampSwampGood fucking luck, kiddos.
Name a more iconic duo. Pro tip: you cannot.
>>98095097You and disappointing everyone around you.
>>98094459this card actually has a niche which is crazy
>>98095097It's just Gitrog alone for quite a time now, no idea what's up with that.
Why do theses cause so much seething? I've never lost a game of EDH and been like>If you didn't have the fucking Underground Sea I'd have won!
>>98095207If they aren't good why are you running them?
>>98095213Where did I say they were bad? Stupid nigger. Answer the question. Why do they cause so much seethe?
>>98095207>>98095220You seem to be the one seething, so you tell us.
>>98095207There have definitely been games in the past where I was playing all 10 shocks, duals and fetches, and I won the game with very little health left, and if I were grabbing those shocks, the extra 2 life would have got me. Your mileage may vary.
>>98095207I think it's just the flashiest way of showing your land base is better. You don't have a game won or lost by one land normally. But if all your lands come in untapped and half of theirs come in tapped you do have a significant advantage.
>>98095241Sounds like an opponents not taking advantage of you putting your life so low. Many such cases. I've won plenty of games at 1,2 or 3 life because someone refused to attack me when I was wide open and nothing else was on board. It all comes down to who you're playing with. Bad, shitty players will blame anything but themselves for losing all the time.
>>98095220 You want access to high-color good stuff piles without having to work for it. Then you will turn around and cry and piss yourselves and make sure that all tools that punish you for your greed are eliminated. Legislative capture in a hobby of all things.
>>98093862Most people running too little lands run too little rocks too.Threat assessment is the biggest disparity between players.
>>98095260I rune exactly 8 basic lands in my Jared 5C deck exactly for these kinds of cards. I also run plenty of ways to get those 8 basics on to the field.
>>98095266proof 5c players are retards who can't do math
>>98095269What are you on about retard? I run 37 lands. 8 basic, every shock and dual and fetch lands that find forest. My math is fine.
This commander is legit so fucking dumb, i built a deck for $200 and not putting much effort into it and hes immediately the best out of my br3 decks, and it is far too easy to combo off and have 20 min turns, you dont even need labman or whatever, you can just use effects to reshuffle cards into your library and keep milling
>>98095271Anon do you think less than two of each basic land type is going to consistently cover all your color pip needs?
>>98095273I built this guy because I loce Mesmeric Orb+Basalt monolith and I put it in every deck I can.
>>98095273>heThat's a woman, man.
>>98095275Yes. I have literally never had a problem manawise>Is an opponent Monored?>If yes, then I fetch basics with my three visits cards and fetch lands>If no, then I don't fucking care, basics will show up anyway off my atlan jackal hits and my Cultivates.
>>98095255I like to use life as a resource so I often drain myself building up a board, and once I get to that low point on life, I'm usually set up at a point where people really can't do anything and I win. It wasn't like they weren't trying up to that point. I've always said that the most important thing to do for an EDH deck is to build a good manabase that doesn't come in tapped. With fetches and shocks you can do that for relatively cheap, but all that life can add up. Hence, why I do advocate getting or trading for them if you can and you have a bracket 4-5 deck that you've played a bunch and do need to squeak out a few extra %.
>>98095255Not attacking if it's <5 damage is a massive flaw that like all players seems to have.
I have a deck that damages itself a lot and the worst feeling about it is that it fairly often benefits from "pity" plays. People will not assess boardstate they'll just look at life totals and act like I'm in the back of the race just because my life total is lowest.
>>98095301You don't get it, if I attack with my 1/1 squirrel token, then the next guy could drop a 30/30 Haste Double Strike Infect creature and kill me. I'll pass.
>>98094080Such good art on mystic melting. What other kooky cantrips do you play?
Shapeshifter tribal: fun?
Commander for this feel?
>>98095207They aren't that much stronger than shocks but they're pretty much exclusively used by proxyfags with no restraint playing the full 10 while their friends at the same table are on budget lands in their 2c decks. There's no seethe its just kind of obnoxious.
>>98095396Really depends on the number of colors for the deck. I'd say 2 color decks can get away with zero duals at all and can run one dual per "utility land", but as color count raises, the more powerful Untapped duals become and Five color decks need fetchable duals unless they are just green decks with extra colors.
>>98095207You've never lost the game because your opponent had a more varied landbase available at a faster rate?
>>98095350Being a retard?Any of the top100 on EDHrec
>>98095344I dunno about shapeshifter but "tribal tribal" with him is incredibly fun. All tribal support/lords that make him into some uber being when he drops. Makes for a pretty neat voltron deck
>>98095328
>make first spell slinger deck>it devolves into storm turnsgonna kms
>>98095433Ah, Ice Age. Now THAT was a good set, yessir. They don't make 'em like that anymore, they don't.
>>98095350anime art Massacre Girl or Braids
I have a confession, for the past 5 or so years I have been buying about 10-30 of these a week. Gaea's Touch. I just wanted to see if I could effect the market and I can safely say I have.. So should I just onload theses? I bought the bulk of them for under 50 cent. Or should I keep going?
>>98095532This isn't /r/mtgfinance or whatever
>>98095536I was banned from mtgfinance for asking to see proof of the death threats the RC claimed to receive all those years ago.
>>98095538Oh so you were retarded
>>98094148the landtax curse is you draw 4 lands every turn
>>98095433margaret soul-sovl
post W boobs
I have something to say...I love mono B rat decks
>>98095681
>>98095693Me too
>>98095713He's pretty cool but I think Karumax or whatever is still better because he offers instant value
>Check his deck list>One (1) rat
I have something to say.... I love Golgari squirrel decks
>>98095746God this set was so fucking cool and frankly I am tired of pretending otherwise
>>98095765I thought it was really really boring. Nothing really new or interesting in terms of mechanics or deck themes. It's mostly just tribal shit.
Kind of wondering if this shit is worth running in my insurrection.dek as effectively a second insurrection if I have another theft spell (I do.) I didn't know it existed until now.
Just got a new phone. Do I download Arena again or no? Alchemy cards made me piss blood
>>98095784playing arena on a phone sounds awful. Also you do not have to play alchemy formatsAlso there is an arena general to ask this.
>>98095789Playing on the phone? Perfectly fine. Building a deck on it? Abysmal. I just build decks on my rig and play on my phone occasionally. I play Brawl almost exclusively
>>98095763Play Sultai frogs
>>98094265This deck would be vastly improved if that Natural Order could find a Verdant Force for style points.
>>98095285All dragons are women half the time.
>>98095207They cost a lot. That is literally it. Fetches are better most of the time and no one gives a shit if you use them.
>>98094459Last strike needs to be real so Triple Strike can be real.
>>98095213I'm not and never will. Seethe. I'll still say based when I see a boomer t1 fetch up a trop.
>Opponent #1: T1 sol ring, arcane signet - T2 hero of bladehold>Opponent #2: T1 sol ring, talisman T2 prismari commander>Opponent #4: triomeI cast smallpox - completely fucks player 1 and 2 out of the game because they had to discard and sac a land and their creatures, and nailed player 4's triome, which locked him out of 2 colors apparently. then: >lorehold charm, making them sac non-token artifacts>court of embereth >pic rel and some tokens>pox>cast plague pox>win
>>98095904you wanna know why the boomer is based for that? he's not going to cry when i cast blood moon.
>merfolk then vs merfolk nowjust fucking kill me already. what is this trash? I'd rather hire ai slop artists than whatever this shit is.
>>98095975>I like realistic fantasy art and not stylized or surrealist artcool
>>98095975Cherry picking is one hell of a drug
>>98095775I did like the bats and their "gain and lose life" most orzhov stuff is aristocrats or just plain drain, so something that wants you to balance both gain and losing life felt novel enough.
where the fuck are people getting spoilers now? I just learned that "unofficial spoilers" are not allowed anymore so magicspoiler and myticspoiler are being good little cucks and not spoiling cards until allowed.
I sleeve my lands in red, creatures white, equipment blue in my captain America deck but the LGS seems to have a problem with this???
>>98096054There is always some fuck that thinks everyone is trying to cheat and ruins the fun.
>>98096039R/mtgrumors
>>98096067>R/mtgrumorsDoesn't allow unapproved "leaks"
>>98096054They're probably iranian or russian who cares
>>98096054Anti-american
>>98095273Perhaps but you're running the lame version of Teval and thus a busta
>bought some deck boxes because they look cool>look them up to buy more>they're going for $60-80 nowI never knew deck boxes were an investment strat
>>98096134everything is now. People were scalping pokemon poptarts on eaby.
>>98096134What deck boxes anon
>>98095273I, for one, think we should have MORE cards that create druid tokens.
Wanna make a budget Lorehold The Historian deck but struggle to find win cons. Miracles don't do shit.
>>98096189Lorehold is a reanimator deck in Boros. You discard you big fuck off creatures and then use one of whites many reanimation spells to revive them, either on your turn or as a miracle. Also, run MLD
>>98096189you give OTHER big stupid spells miracle, you donut hole
I'm running a theft deck that cares whether or not I own the creatures I control. Reading this card, I assume I don't count as the owner the cybermen it creates?
>>98096212nope
>>98096020richard kane fergusoul
>>98096212cybermen are face down cards you control that your opponents own
>>98096189It's not a deck with a huge and easy win condition. The rummage on opponent's upkeep lets you dig, and your big sorceries can give you value if you miracle them, but boros is boros. In the end you'll need to wipe the board and deal combat damage, and this is not an aggro deck.
>>98096243I wish flare of fortitude was nontoken creature instead of white
>>98096189insurrection is a wincon
>>98096243Flare is actually good though. You need to remember, the niggers at WOTC conflate "White color identity " as "White Racial identity" which is why they almost always give it bad or limited "catch up" cards meanwhile every other mono color is getting to branch out into new ground. It is the reason White cards usually have niggers on them these days. The fact that someone can see a White card and crack the joke "White Power huhuhu" gives R&D nightmares. So White will never be as good as the other colors. Whenever I start to read a "powerful White card" I always assume it has "This ability triggers only once each turn" or "if your opponents has more X than you"
>>98096286schizobased
>>98096286Yes I agree this is somehow a brand new development that white wants to punish players for getting ahead.
>>98096293Comprehend my writing nigger. Other colors are allowed to branch out unimpeded, meanwhile white constantly gets Mythics like pic related. A card that does NOTHING if you are behind (other than 12 damage)
>>98096281>wotc somehow made it so that insurrection is no longer a dollar rare>insurrection, the timmiest of timmy sorceriesWhat the fuck happened to this game while I was away? Why are all the old budget choice basic bitch cards commanding a price?
>>98096297>oh that card would be nea->25$>never mindI hate this game
Let's not forget this Powerful White Card>Card that does nothing if you are ahead.
>>98096297Yeah white's not getting stack interaction or hand disruption.
>>98096305It is actually garbage. I've cut it from every single deck I had it in. It does nothing by the time you drop it and it can attack, unless you power it out with a sol ring, in which case, it'll still do nothing 79% of the time. I have never cast it since I bought it and thought >This was worth it
>>98096138The "Druidic Secrets" boulders. I got them because they look cool, was looking at more Ultimate Guard stuff and saw the current prices.>>98096136Sure, but this price hike still caught me off guard. Seems pretty dramatic for fucking boulders.
>>98096310>An effect Black does better>Opponents still get to cast the spell
>>98096318Let me guess, you want more.
>>98096297The more I read this the more I hate it.>If there is a tie, it does nothing>If you have the most cards, land or life it does nothing>The absolute ceiling is you Draw a card, gain life and make a treasure. Which is good, but you'll only do it once per game, which is bad.
>>98096286>white is the color of eating last>white is the color of catching up but no further>white is the color of military, as long as it's lead by a Blak KweenThis sounds schizo, but I'm sure at least one ideologue at WotC believes something like this. As above, so below, etc. Unironic magic.
>>98096328I mean it is self evident.>>98096324>>98096310>White can delay people, but never stop them
>white can never stop them
>>98096339This doesn't actually stop people from playing cards, it delays them. Just give it up schizo.
>>98096310>>98096335Nah you finally tapped out fuck you Mana Tithe
>>98096350I discard an Island and Foil Hebrew Glory.
>>98096360I concede. To continue would be antisemitic. Good game.
>>98096360As a good Christian, I support Israel in all it does. My children's lives for Israel!
Thinking of building The Celestial Toymaker, made a retro alt art for it since I don't want Doctor Who stuff. Any ideas for backup wincons if The Celestial Toymaker gets removed?
>>98096360Sorry I didnt know you were Jewish.It'd be a shame if you couldnt come back next week to our table.
>>98096305it's a trick
>>98096305It's not a good card. It's price only holds because people who buy it are in denial over it and refuse to admit they wasted money despite it being the first card they cut every time.
>>98096360I cast Bounty of the Hunt, exiling Arabic Stone-Tongue Basilisk targeting Thrun. That's commander damage. From the river to the sea.
>>98096399Magister SphinxColossus of AkrosBig Artifact mother fuckers in the best color identity for it.
>>98096428I cast Eldrazi Confluence, flickering Gideon's Intervention and making a Eldrazi Scion. I name your commander when Gideon's Intervention ETBs.
>>98096286>You need to remember, the niggers at WOTC conflate "White color identity " as "White Racial identity" which is why they almost always give it bad or limited "catch up" cards
>>98096212I wanna run this guy but he requires tons of fast mana and he does shit against non-creature decks
>>98096468HE can just kill via mill. Just have an answer for shuffle titans.
is wilson + deathtouch enchantment comfy?
>>98096482No, but this is.
