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>>10933384
>I-IT'S JUST 4 PANELS!!!
It should be 0 panels.
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>>10933391
>sword dlc
typical hasblow.
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>drags it to the new thread
All drama posters should be cosmic rusted.
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>>10933391
>New thread on page 9 or 10 or image limit. Any thread that doesn't say this and does not adhere to it or lacks the pastebins is not a legit /tfg/ thread
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>>10933410
I hope a 3rd party can make bigger chrome wings. They look way too dinky.
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>>10933407
>>10933410
>>10933414
Ooo, where'd you get the new pictures? Did someone have a sample on-hand at Wondercon?

Also, that's quick the thigh gap on Swoop!
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>>10933418
https://youtu.be/rPYdgwv743w?t=221
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>>10933418
NTA but all of the figures are on display it seems
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>>10933423
Thanks for the link!
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>>10933407
Damn I know he turns into a dinosaur but they didn't make him look like a cromagnon too. PotP unironically looks better in both modes.
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>>10933424
Honestly, I think he looks good! I'm sure there are some people who would rather have toy-accurate red instead of toon-accurate blue, but I'm guessing there'll probably be a red version eventually, either in Gen Selects or as a Target exclusive (since they seem to like red characters) or something.
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>>10933431
Swoop's chin may not be something everyone remembers but it is indeed part of his portrait.
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>>10933399
>you will buy ze comic grimlock just to get ze swords we should have included in ze first place
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>>10933399
>>10933441
Feels good not to give a shit about the swords
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>>10933445
How is your space robot soldier alien supposed to defend himself in a melee combat?
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>>10933431
>PotP unironically looks better in both modes.
>Hole in the chest in dino mode
>Innacurate everything in robot mode with hollow legs
I'm not liking the wingspan on the new one but that's still some serious cope.
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>>10933464
>the masters of MP can't be arsed to give him a trailer to combine with
guess we'll never get a real MP combiner from this company.
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>>10933445
>Feels good not to give a shit about the swords
Same here.

>>10933468
They just need to use their blasters as cudgels to cave in some skulls.
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>>10933470
What are you talking about? Haven't you seen the pics in the previous thread? There's a trailer, but it looks like shit.
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>>10933470
He does get a trailer. It's just only included with the anime deco release and not the toy deco pictured there. Were you not around for the last thread?
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>>10933464
>200 dollarydoos for that dogshit alt mode
Looks worse than almost every mainline prime truck and this shit gets to canonically cheat the chest.
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>>10933474
>>10933476
I was only aware of the MPG getting a trailer and not the MP proper.
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>>10933470
There's no higher res version of the MPG-09 solicitation
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>>10933482
The thighs being obvious is part of the design in the anime too, so it doesn't bother me at all.
Thes super mode arms, on the other hand...
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>>10933483
MPG is just MPs that combine, anon. There's no other difference. MPG Ginrai has the exact same cab mold of MP Ginrai, and it even advertises cross-compatibility.
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>>10933435
Red Swoop was actually the first Gen Selects toy back in 2018
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>>10933496
They mentioned the possibility of a new one off-handedly on stream the other day, though it was definitely framed in a "wouldn't that be neat" kind of way.
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>>10933496
Too bad they fucked up the entire point of it by changing the shade of grey so he STILL didn't match to the other 4.
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>>10933437
I think he was commenting more on the brow, being a racist, but it looks like that's in the original too
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>>10933441
Did that damn Grimlock even go up for preorder yet?

>>10933445
>>10933472
It'll be annoying, but I bet you can strip the swords out and sell the rest and do okay. Maybe keep the crown too.
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Do any Autobots have New Leader Syndrome?
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>>10933531
>Did that damn Grimlock even go up for preorder yet
next month.
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>>10933532
>Rodimus Derangement Syndrome
>Even if Optimus is leader again, can't stop bringing ORANGE BOT BAD out of nowhere
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>>10933464
>That hideous giant backpack
>Ugly red eyes
Holy fuck this is bad
How did 3P BTFO out of Hasbro/Takara so hard that this is the best Has/Tak can muster?
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>>10933543
Thanks much.
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>>10933499
With the insane amount of repaints Grimlock is getting it seems likely.
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>>10933464
>dogshit altmode
>backpack
>that chest
This turd is supposed to be a masterpiece?
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>>10933553
Red eyes is toy colors. The backpack forms the chest of the larger robot anyway.
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>>10933572
And why couldn't they engineer the real chest to be usable in all modes? This fucker is supposed to be a MP
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>New thread on page 9 or 10 or image limit. Any thread that doesn't say this and does not adhere to it or lacks the pastebins is not a legit /tfg/ thread
Don't (You) at me
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>>10933578
>And why couldn't they engineer the real chest to be usable in all modes?
Because that's not how Ginrai looks. His back is supposed to be the real front of the truck with the Godmaster attached to it.
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>>10933578
That's not how Ginrai works.
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okay finally
I can show youse guys the hackjob I did on Antagony because the ant legs looked so retarded out of the box
I actually reversed part of the middle set of legs to fix the shitty proportions, and I added joints everywhere the legs bent a way they shouldn't.. plus I turned the rear legs entirely upside down by swapping them, then sawed off and reglued the tips (the front tips needed regluing too, way too sharp an angle)
It's not that great.. but I've learned enough that if I do this for PF Inferno, I'll be able to do it a hell of a lot better. That's a big IF, though. because it's still kinda jank even after all that. I might just saw and glue his legs into solid but properly-angled ones. or I might use some hinge joints instead of just all these ball joints. or China might come through and give me replacement ones. Either way, for Inferno I think I can make the middle set of legs partform, and stow away clipped to another set of legs in robot mode.. then clip new, bigger hands around his wrists
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I liked the wings of the original prototype way better.
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>>10933414
So he comes with Grimlocks sword? Bummer. This means you get one cartoon sword, two toy inspired and 3 comic inspired swords.
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That weird RED line is dead, right?
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>>10933594
RED is DED, yes.
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>>10933485
gonna be grabbing this for sure. He'll look great next to MP Star Saber. Would love God Bomber too. Maybe to much to ask for MP Victory Leo as well
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>>10933578
Do you not know how Powermaster Prime works? He was using fake kibble before it was cool. It's baked into the design.
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>>10933597
>>10933594
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>>10933603
>Would love God Bomber too.
God Bomber is MPG-10 supposedly.
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>>10933583
>>10933585
>>10933604
I know how Ginrai works but for a masterpiece I would expect more complex engineering and not simply have the real windshield hanging in the back like the 30 year old toy. What is even the point of making him a MP if the proportions are going to still look like shit?
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>>10933629
i am kinda on your side. i want to see improvements. although.. the more 'super robot' it gets, the more forgiving I am of weird transformations, and even attached to them. we've seen what happens when they change shit for basically no reason except to be different from a previous toy...
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>>10933629
Too bad, that's what Ginrai looks like.
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>>10933629
That wouldn't be show accurate to use the windshield in robot mode.
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>>10933410
Are his swords rubbery like the ones included with comic Grimlock, they look more rigid here.
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>>10933588
The new wings look oddly short.
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>>10933629
>they should change the design for no real reason because I say so
The point of Masterpiece is just to be a good, high-end toy of the character. It's not about being complex for the sake of being complex. It's not about changing the character design to something different because some random person thinks the original character design looks bad. The figure is accurate to the character, is well detailed, looks to have a lot of articulation, and hopefully is made of quality plastic without any QC issues or design flaws. That is the most you should expect from MP, not some arbitrary "it's MP so it needs X amount of transformation steps" standard.
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>>10933662
Yeah, they look pretty solid in these shots. Guess they're cast in the same mold as the heads.
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>>10933629
It's what both the toy amd animation look like. What are are you suggesting they change it to?
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>>10933629
The whole point of complex engineering in the MP line is to make it more accurate to the character. Why on Earth would they intentionally make the figure LESS accurate just for the sake of having complex engineering? That's completely backwards!
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I hope they do Gamer Edition dinobots next just so I can watch bayzoomers seethe even harder
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>>10933720
Missed the Planet X toys?
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>>10933666
does the robot mode ever get to hold those wing-mounted cannons? because if they're just a bit of old toy kibble that nobody ever used again, I think they would be a great way to use up some robot mode meat that is just gonna junk up the ptera mode..
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>>10933579
(You)
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>>10933749
you're not allowed to have a sense of humor. this is too amusing.
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>>10933752
Gattai!
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>>10933720
I think everyone gave up on them doing the remaining AoE Dinobots already.
But Fall of Cybertron is from only a few years earlier. It would be the same age demographic. The cheap tie-in game for AoE even recycled the fuck out of the High Moon games, with both Grimlocks in it.
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>>10933755
Beast Wars: Energon
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>>10933468
They're dinosaurs. Robot mode for ranged combat, beast mode for melee.
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>>10933782
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>>10933782
Can't a dinosaur just use atomic breath for ranged attacks? Doesn't seem very useful for moving around quickly.
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>>10933666
Not only that but they're also the wrong shape. There's no curvature anymore.
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>>10933787
>Doesn't seem very useful for moving around quickly.
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>>10933791
And then for the next 20 years Godzilla would do fights by planting to the ground and shooting beams while the opponent shoots beams back.
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>>10933755
The original toy's wolf head and bird claws are so much better than what the new one has it's not even funny. Also hate that they covered his back with bad sculpted feathers that look more like fish scales drawn by a kid. He's supposed to have fur there.

Cute wolves nonetheless (not talking about the Silverbolts).
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>>10933437
>no little dino tail
THEY TOOK ME SWOOP'S ASS
ME SWOOP CAN'T SHIT!
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>>10933801
neither bird claws really make much sense, it felt like maybe with the fuzors they were actually trying to sneak some visible mechanical stuff onto the beast modes...
maybe that entire back part will be removable and we'll get a replacement from china. i don't see one yet though
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>>10933804
The old ones can actually be posed to look good in flying poses instead of having those dumb looking flat things.

Also the only mechanical kibble in the front legs is the little piece of machinery in the middle of the interior side that you're supposed to disregard in beast mode. But the morons changed the transformation without taking into account little design choices like that so now they end on the exterior part of the legs in beast mode.
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>>10933748
The original toy could hold the launchers, which were separate accessories. The character model treated them as permanently attached to his wings, and would usually just treat him as not having a weapon in robot mode. The Marvel Comics would usually just throw a generic gun into his hands in the instances he needed a weapon, ignoring his sword *and* the launchers.
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>>10933806
they should have sculpted them something like Tigerhawk's claws, so they looked okay sitting flat but could still curl around for grips.
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>>10933806
Well the toes look kinda weird, like I guess that's meant to be a bird's scales, but it looks eerily like cables
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>>10933755
Looking at this pic makes it clear just how stumpy those tail feathers are on the new one. Like, seriously, they couldn't just make them long enough to completely cover his backside like the old toy? it's not like they're in a place that would interfere with the transformation at all.
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>>10933848
well here's the thing... yes, this should have been bigger, but in robot mode, due to how the transformation works now, the tail already hangs REALLY low. I don't think merely lengthening the tail would turn him from a dud to a stud, they would also need to put in some folding mechanism for robot mode
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if they really wanted to do fun things with the alternate timeline idea started in Kingdom, they could give us versions of all the podfallen characters as the opposite factions, complete with coincidentally similar yet faction-appropriate beast modes. Like essentially let's see whom Quickstrike would have been if he hadn't hit his head real hard in that pod and scanned two pred animals. Or the kinda guy Silverbolt would have ended up with, if he did. they'd both still be fuzors of course. but airazor, tigatron, (and what their alternate forms become when fused by the vok), blackarachnia, and inferno all have a built-in potential alternate character based on what happened to each pod.
They could call the subline STASIS LOST or something.
now that I'm thinking about it, like presumably silverbolt is just that guy's name before he went into stasis and lost his memory, but was the other guy already Quickstrike? doesn't feel like a Maximal name. And surely Tigatron's name was something-else-atron, and Blackarachnia was black-something-ia.. Inferno makes sense, that's a good autobot name. and airazor is a sensible name for a chick who used to turn into a jet of some kind.
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>>10933862
Write a fanfic
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>>10933806
well there's also multiple cylindrical joints sticking out...
>>10933874
I want toys, dammit. or at least maybe a comic. and then later the comic can have toys based on it.
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>>10933876
We're near enough to being able to readily design and manufacture our own toys
Even now you could probably commission it if you asked around
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>>10933878
inorite
it's getting pretty radical
i think the next big improvement would be a reliable and easy tool for adding metal pins, and also cheap and readily available pins for the tool to use. You can make a decent 3d printed action figure now, but something like a transformer is going to require at least a little metal reinforcement.
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>>10933720
>>10933756
If they do keep the GEs going, I hope they do FoC Megatron. He never got a toy back in the day
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>>10933861
Just put a hinge so it can fold upward
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>>10933424
alrite he's ok, gonna grab one
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i think he might be a bit mistransformed, looks like that the wings need a little bit more folding out
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>>10933958
Do you not know how to crop anon?
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>>10933972
yeah lol, i forgot i wasnt working in photoshop
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>>10933958
Still looks bad, they're in the correct position here >>10933588
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>>10933666
>>10933588
>>10933437
>>10933424
>>10933391
For fucks sake.
i was waiting for Swoop for so LONG when they started making these big dinobots. He's my favorite and i was going to buy just Swoop and they made him the LAST (?) one in their lineup.

and it's FUCKING CRAP. i swear this is a monkey paw.
Power of the Primes is still the best official Swoop transformer.

you are a fucking consoomer retard if you buy this and not another PotP swoop.
holy shit im pissed
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They tried to reinvent the wheel with that new way of folding the wings and the only thing they achieved is fucking up the shape and size.
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>>10934034
I don't see any bootleg in that pic.
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Can't wait to not find this figure in stores.
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For pegged wheels, are there any tried and tested methods nowadays for making them spin better? Would lube of some kind be a good idea, or would it just get everywhere where it shouldn't be?
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Confession time guys, I quit buying transformers like 6 years ago and just focused on power rangers' lightning collection because I thought TFs were too expensive, now that those are done for I came back, and the whole dollar to value situation got even worse ffs, how did it get so bad, they all feel cheaper than they did during siege, I never agreed with the switch from ballpoint to pins and 90% of the time they aren't even tight
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>>10934091
Transformers have to have unique engineering for almost every figure. They're more complex than almost any other retail figure out there. Comparing something like Transformers to Lightning Collection, which is 90% bucks with different paint, is apples to oranges
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>>10933861
Look at the robot shoulders, the new wing pack sits too low, they didin't need to change his transformation, just remove the wing firing parts and add more joints to the original wings.
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>>10934135
The only reason to change the transformation is having a waist joint, but in this case isn't worth it at all. There's something special about how straightforward and nonetheless unique the original transformation was. The fake chest joints in the new one are so silly...
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>>10934100
Doesn't excuse tooner design philosophy, over-engineering, and shit plastic quality.

I'll still hold up original Animated Prowl vs. Legacy Prowl as an example of everything good about old transformers figures versus everything bad about modern ones; price is no object for perfection, but if a figure is mediocre or worse (so, pretty much all modern figures) it isn't even worth getting on sale.
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>>10934187
Where do you think we are?
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I always laugh when a toy ends up ugly as fuck because it is trying to be accurate to ugly as fuck 80s animation models made by a hack.
Tooners deserve all the pain they get.
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>>10934091
While I do not disagree, we have it better than many others on a value-per-figure basis. This being saod the prices are so high largely due to economy and Hasbro being strained greatly by the failures of their Disney products. The Disney tax on prices plus the low quality and desirability of the properties they've chosen (or been contractually forced) to focus on is on the whole having a negative effect on the company and other franchises. Sucks, but thats how it is.

Its also been said that kids are being priced out of the market too, which is detrimental the company as a whole.
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Saars where are the vector prime pictures please redeem
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>>10933720
>I hope the make more low-quality WFC toys to own the cringe zoomers who like the movies, unlike the based zoomers who like the games!
Ok retard.
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>>10934280
>>I hope the make more low-quality WFC toys to own the cringe zoomers who like the movies
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>>10934280
But the movies are older than the games
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>>10934010
You don't need an art program, though.
>Open image on desktop
>Go to 'Crop/Edit' at the top of the window
>Select the part of the image you want to crop
The thing will trim off the excess and automatically scale itself up, no Photoshop required. It's a basic built-in function on Windows at this point.
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>>10933925
a single hinge wouldn't do it. it would be a minimum of two. and which direction? keep in mind you still want the tail to be down at the bottom there in robot mode
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>>10934031
i'm sure china will bail us out
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>>10934326
oh i use photoshop. i know about it. but i did it really quick in paint for convenience. BUT i forgot about the fact that paint does not crop your image lol. its a little oopsie woopsie
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>>10934135
anon, it does look like the wings might sit kind of low (not sure if that's wrong for the animation model) but if anything that makes the tail situation WORSE. that means if they pulled the whole wing pack up, his tail would be -even shorter-
you are aware we're talking about the tail, right. the wings are okay, if just slightly undersized, like all modern transformers wings. and as dumb as they are, they couldn't take out the wing missiles because he had them on the show.
speaking of, can the wing pack still move into the toy's orientation in order to fire the missiles? does it flip up?
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>10934187
>i used the wrong scale on purpose to encourage replies
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>>10933587
Someone post the de-headmatered Kup
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>>10934358
er.. why?
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>>10934187
>Noooooo you can't talk about toys on this board! You just can't!
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>>10933862
Cobratron (has an inexplicable snow pattern)
Octopus Blackoctopda
Mosquito Bloodrazor (bullshit thing that is billed as a mosquito at least)
Water buffalo Inferno (he has a water gimmick like Megatron and some others had)
Coyote/Roadrunner Quickspirit (His accent changes from "Cowboy" to "Indian" accordingly)
Hercules beetle/salamander Redbolt
Transmetal Lynx(?) Sky Lynx (starts out a Maximal, but defects after Azoth reawakens his memories as Protoform X)
Transmetal copepod or trilobite Azoth
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>>10934381
>Cephalopods are maximals
excellent obscure knowledge, good chum
>water buffalo with a water gimmick
silly and yet i love it. Not the coolest animal around...
these are all great ideas and I would love to see them.
as for those last two, I imagined rampage and depthcharge would have no reason to be any different
So I guess "Cobrazor" would be the vok's emissary.. and would probably end up being like quickstrike all over again
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>>10934391
The last one was actually Transmutate (which is why the dodgy alchemy name) after I realized making Rampage a reference to Sky Lynx mirroring the rivalry of his G1 namesake removed the water specialist of the Predacons. Based on how I would imagine character personalities would change, I can't imagine this version of Beast Wars being as popular as the actual show. Black feels like she would be considered lame by children and killed off near the end of S2.
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>>10934417
yeaahh doing the opposite of a trend is fun for variety, but there's a reason trends are what they are
like i was just thinking we rarely get sitcoms with a teen son and elementary age daughter. most of the time it's the other way around.
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>>10934427
Drake and Josh?
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>>10934187
How do people this retarded not kill themselves
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>>10934434
eh she was for all intents and purposes older than him.
also that's a two-guys-buddy-comedy, not a standard-family-unit sitcom. it works on Kenan and Kel rules, and Kenan had a way younger sister.
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>>10934446
I'm sure bratty little sisters are common enough to be easily understood by audiences.
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>>10934453
I guess my point is you almost never get, say, rule 63 God, the Devil, and Bob / Grounded For Life families. with a cute innocent daughter having grade school problems, and a dour teen son having middle school problems.
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>>10934464
Not really sure where you're getting sex in there, anon.
We're discussing how certain patterns typically work in scripted TV, and how it can be fun to reverse some of those (swapping the sex of characters, flipping the factions, etc) but there's a reason the typical patterns exist.
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>>10934332
Reread that post - you don't NEED Photoshop OR Paint. You can crop and edit any image you save just by opening the file with the default image viewer. No other applications required; it's a default function of Windows.
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>>10934433
Right? He looked a little stubby in all his photos, so I wasn’t expecting to him to be bigger and chunkier than tarn.
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>>10934468
>it's a default function of Windows.
Not on all versions of 7.
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>>10934427
Hot teen daughter brings in the ratings.
Everyone who works in tv knows this.
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>>10934521
indeed, but you'd think lady ratings would matter too. and they do, we get the teen heartthrob guys in OTHER genres, frequently school-focused ones, and the aforementioned buddy comedies. just not typically as part of a family-focused show.
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Two and a Half Men but with women
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>>10934542
and he wasn't even perfect to begin with, that's what's really sad.
all they had to make was improvements, and all they did was shit in a bucket
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>>10934542
>>10934545
>Inb4 skipping leg day
Seriously, this might be a refund for me. The only thing that brings me hesitation is that i know the OG Tigerhawk won't last forever. Even though the new one is mediocre, he is hard to find and scalped as heck. Happy easter anons, God loves you.
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>>10934548
wait, he doesn't even have the hallux? good lord, I'm finding more to hate about this thing every day.

China will bail us out with a new tigerhawk.. they already have one coming in MP scale, but hopefully they start listening to my telepathic messages and scaling those down too
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>>10934542
I'm still baffled by how badly they managed to fuck him up. I mean, all they had to do was tweak the original design a bit to modernized it, and instead they put in the extra time, effort, and money to reinvent the wheel, but shittier.
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>>10934542
>>10934548
It's hideous coloring alone compared to original
Cause they went with that skewed Scene in show
At night
Next to the volcano
like retards. And braindead fans with "duhh it's show accurate colors t ho"
No it's fucking not, it's god damn hideous
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>>10934557
I like the old colors and the new colors
I don't think Tigerhawk had a single "normal lighting" shot in the entire show. he existed purely as a guy outside in a storm at night.
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>>10934557
I genuinely have no idea where you fags are getting the idea that those colors aren't show accurate
In the few episodes he's in he already in multiple environments. At night, flying at dawn, in a cave, at a volcano. Every fucking one he has the exact same colors of purple and bronze
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>>10934564
The majority is at night which doesn't help or he's indoors
There's no good clean shots during the day cause he also fucks off for awhile at the end

>>10934565
Shut up retard
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>>10934565
Tbh, i agree. Although i like the metallic blue better, he was always purple in the show. As fars as robot modes, I'll say some nice things about him before i tear him down... His arms have great articulation, due to some hidden flaps in his tiger head and cockpit shoulder. He aslo has ankles. As for the bad, well... His bird legs don't really tab in anywhere outside of the calf area with one peg. His wings, while better articulated with an additional hinge are hollow and unsightly. For $55 they could really do better (tell me I'm a sucker, i know). Also, he's armed with a feather duster. Should be pretty good at fighting dustmite the predicon.
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>>10934186
the old prowl is worse because it's tooner design philosophy
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>>10933587
The robot mode looks a lot better this way, legs curled up and out of the way... still not good enough to be my Inferno though I don't think
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>>10934572
when was he ever indoors, did he visit their base?
>>10934578
>hidden shoulder flaps
man that would be a massive improvement over the original for sure.
>weaponry
i'm such a sucker for forearm guns that I don't even care about the rest of what he lacks. Though the main way he attacked on the show was with magic, so they should have given him some effect pieces.
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>>10934578
New tigerhawk definitely wins in wingspan and arm articulation. Here's a pic with those hidden flaps in the arms opened up and extended. I get a little pissy thinking about his lack of wrists. Hasbro proved with Wrekgar thay they can have fold-out writs that also swivel. Why can't we have them on all melee caracters? Snarl has them! On another note, one more area where old Tigerhawk shines is his head! Better sculpt and he can actually look up. These bots could really use a dumbbell joint for their necks.
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>>10934594
the wrists don't bother me that much, but whyy must the hands be so TINY? they look completely ridiculous at the end of those long arms.
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>>10934578
>>10934591
His wing cannons detach and have pegs for him to hold them in his hands, plus he still has his wrist blaster. The featherdusters are just an optional weapon.
He still sucks compared to the original, but he's not lacking in the weapons department.
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>>10934591
>when was he ever indoors, did he visit their base?
When Tarantulas captured him and was trying to steal his Vok powers.
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>>10934602
one of his hands, anyway
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>>10934605
ohhh yeahhhh
someone post screencaps of that scene
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So Mainframe didn't do 3D turnarounds of the models in neutral lighting to use as reference?
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>>10934611
i bet they did, but they're on some ancient harddrive now, and hasbro didn't even bother asking for said files. they just told their employees 'google it'
which is why rhinox was accidentally based on his mobile-game appearance and dinobot's sword is purple
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>>10934594
One can only get mogged for so long....
>yeah that's right. Use that advanced articulation to cry like a little wimp.
On the other hand, Snarl is great! His alt mode is a bit of a potato but he's fun all-around. I think he'd look better with a different head. Too similar to sludge. Maybe a knight's/gladiator's helmet?
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>>10934617
I know at least some of the Studio Series guys consulted the actual models in the design process. It is a mystery how these things work.
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>>10934554
lol if it's not legends or MP size then you're shit out of luck there
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>>10934625
SS and MP get a lot more money put into their R+D phase
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>>10934477

Are there any good 3rd party parts to adapt fitting a generations style trailer to his alt mode. 3d printed or actual upgrade parts?
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>>10934608
Here's the actual scene in question:
https://youtu.be/x-2xO4luZLo?si=NfCl3onnUNGc6zpb
Looks pretty purple to me.
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>>10934646
is it just me or have thirdparty kits kinda started drying up
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A lot of bickering over a character who did less than Skids ever did.
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>>10934649
you know, his tiger head looks a little bit silly, as does tm2 cheetor's face.. they squished the eyes a bit.

also yeah, that's definitely indigo with a purple sheen. they should have absodefinitely made it metallic. also the claws and hips don't look like this new toy, they're colored like the old one. so THAT was an error for sure.
the beige... is definitely beige, but on the new toy it looks way too dark bronze.
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>>10934652
It’s just you
Could also be because it takes a while for them to get started back up after CNY
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>>10934608
here
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>>10934659
he really does look iridescent. I think that's what threw them off the hardest, every character changes color in lighting, the shiny parts most of all, but iridescence makes it flat out impossible to use any one reference image
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>>10934664
oh yeah that's right. That shit is like that scene in The Wiz, except after it's over they have to go back to work in the sweatshop.
>>10934676
hmmm maybe the legs are the same beige as his main wing portions.. he really doesn't have much of that color on the show, it feels like it was just thrown on to spruce up the toy which was almost pure white. and in the new toy, a lot of that bronze is added because I guess the sprues had to be similar sizes.
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>>10934656
That's only true if you count comic Skids.
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>>10934793
This is the power of the robot inside?
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>>10934662
SAY WHOLESOME ONE MORE TIME
I DARE YOU I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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>>10934803
why did you give it attention
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>>10934803
what?
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>Find $200 listing for figures I've had near the top of my want list for a long time
>right after paying $190 on another ebay listing
>right at the start of the month
pain
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>>10934834
Well, anon? What are they?
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finally found a Decepticon Sixwing. Can't wait for it to come in the mail. It's expensive but I'm slowly knocking things off my "never ever" list, including Botcon g2 Starscream, Scorponok, and Transmutate.
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>>10934852
Studio Series constructicon lot, not the best figures ever but they're some of my favorite bot designs in the franchise
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>>10933862
>>10934381
I love your ideas. I'd have to suggest a few of my own too
>Evil Tigatron is basically just Shadow Panther
>Airazor as a bat
>Inferno would have to be an animal equally autistic as an ant, maybe a blood hound that treats Primal like a dog treats its owner
>Blackarachnia as an octopus I can't top
>Quickspirit is goated
>Silverbolt as a silverfish and a snake...?
>Protoform X was evil from the get go but he'd make for a mean megalodon
>Transmutate turning into a pocket pussy for me to use while typing this
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>>10934871
I just watched a video on Sixwing and you know what? I am down with Hasbro doing combiner kibble that can form into something else. After the recent Bruticus, I would love to have things like the thighs, feet, hands, hips and torso kibble be used for something else in the service of making a really good looking combiner robot
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>>10934913
That might be happening in 2026 or so if Bruticus is compatible with Menasor in how they combine.
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>>10934886
well the crux of the idea is seeing them in equivalent but opposite altmodes, so a panther and a bat would still be maximals. but still neat.
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>>10934929
come to think of it, i just remembered that there'd have to be more to this alternate timeline than merely whether tarantulas managed to get a chip in there, since Tigatron and Airazor both landed where there was exactly one thing to scan
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>Excited for Superion
>Gonna have to wait a year+ just for the gift set with the g1 toy colors
Fuck
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>>10934929
Maybe it is something like Shattered Glass with the heroic Predacons and evil Maximals that recycles molds from some future Beast Wars series that has only a few characters overalapping.
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>>10934913
IF Bruticus was pretty good about that. Everything combined into an extended trailer for Onslaught.
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>>10934959
pity reply
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>>10934950
I wanna say that exists, and indeed shattered glass tigatron is a white version of Ravage
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>>10934959
If the actual name was given, they would be able to buy it. It supports Hasbro to make it obscured and deny their legitimacy.
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>>10934652
I've lost interest in them as they've shifted to "awful stair-stepped 3D prints" or "$50 for $5 worth of stuff."
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>>10934834
Well in the span of then and now it ended so that answers that.
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>>10935009
let's be fair now. it's 12-13 bucks for 5 bucks worth of stuff. but the quality is indeed good, no longer shitty 3d printing
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>>10935013
man, when you see a listing, you don't get on the 4chins to celebrate. you BUY it. sorry you had to learn this way.
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>>10931427
>didn't vortex used to like to just
fucking CHRIST i hate IDW so goddamn much
>>10931649
that is a Tom Scioli comic, which happened to be published by IDW. he went to them for the rights for his TF vs GI Joe run, then found he could do GoBots with them too
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>>10935077
gobots was not as good. It had a couple cool moments but the best part is the ending that everybody reposts
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Easter haul.
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How many Studio Series figures are totally inferior to the version that came before them? The only one besides pic rel that comes to mind is Topspin.
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>>10935084
>Easter haul
Forgot pic
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>>10935085
Why would anyone buy the bay studio series shit? The only good ones are 86 and Bumblebee.
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>>10935083
Nah it was based
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>>10935099
i didn't say it was bad but it's not nearly as good as TF vs GI Joe.
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So I never found a Snarl. Am I shit out of luck?
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>>10935083
I don't know anything about GoBots but I thought the ending with the Transformers references took a bit out of it. I liked the ruined planet, the big fight where they get their faces ripped off and for some reason it looked like flesh under the metal, the big looming dinosaur monster. Lots of neat stuff that felt like back of toy packaging info you'd never see realized. Then uh, two of the robots get turned into Starscream I guess
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>>10935103
i would count on all the dinobots being reissued at some point.
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>>10935105
It's intended to be both thematic and meta

Thematic, because the new generation is finally following in the footsteps of the creators and becoming creators themselves

Meta, because Go-Bots debuted first and their mistakes helped Transformers to outperform them
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>>10935089
>86 and Bumblebee
Yup. I agree. And ROTB. There was a marked improvement in engineering in Studio Series after they stopped doing the Bay stuff. I keep thinking about dabbling in the Bay stuff but I need to pump the brakes.
>got 31 figures in the last 8 days; All studio series, every Bumblebee movie Cybertronian and every ROTB figure minus the bad guy cars
Theyre so sick. But I need to chill out now. No Bay shit.
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>>10935103
Have you tried eating more cheese
I hope you end up getting and liking Swoop if you still want the other Dinobots, maybe pre-order him next Thursday
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>>10935112
There isn't really enough time between the two to call it mistake correction.
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>>10935133
I have 2 Bay SS figures myself, and I can vouch for them though they are not flawless. Those being Universal Parks DoTMegatron and Galvatron. Galvatrons feet just being out there does suck and honestly I can't see why they couldm't figure something out, but he feels great and the transformation is really cool. Honestly he'd be perfect if not for the feet I think.

DoTMegatron is a surprising bit of engineering I think. Its incredible that he can become that truck, hes super cool.

>>10935133
>got 31 figures in the last 8 days; All studio series, every Bumblebee movie Cybertronian and every ROTB figure minus the bad guy cars
Oh holy shit, yeah bud, I'd slow down
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>>10935140
its not mistake correction. It's that gobots self-immolated and cut corners while transformers had a lot more money put behind it. gobots had a cut-rate show while transformers worked with marvel comics to get characters and things right that we're still using to this day
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>>10935140
It's not entirely course correction. Consider how many oldfags talk about how shitty the Go-Bot toys were and how forgettable the characters were. Without Go-Bots, Transformers would have had all that criticism levied against it. Go-Bots existence as a (real or perceived) inferior product made TFs look better.
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>>10935133
You could probably use this
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>>10934611
Whatever was left of 90’s Mainframe was likely deleted when the new boss got pissed at people talking about 90’s mainframe and mass deleted/purged
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>>10935160
the go-bots toys were really good though and the thing about them was that they were very cheap pocket money toys; Transformers were very expensive toys comparatively and most kids didn't get many of them.
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>>10934793
This looks like every skullgrin at retail. Wonder where all those heads will end hp?
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>>10934793
>Hold the fuck up
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>>10935154
The original toys were designed to be cheap. Which is funny since now Bandai produces lots of expensive things.
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>>10935154
See I don't believe this. Marvel/Sunbow was just as much a hired gun as Hanna Barbera. And I'll tell you, GoBots was so far ahead of TransFormers it's not funny if you get out of the console wars mindset.

The small core cast thing we loved about Beast Wars and Animated? Started right there with GoBots. Prominent female characters, with neither the feminist baggage nor big pink mommy stereotype? GoBots made it work. Go beyond Scramble City and make _any_ toy work as a combiner without crippling design sacrifices? GoBots again. Ball joints? GoBots did it first. Also three astronauts and military personnel have a much more plausible reason to hang out with alien robots than an oil rig worker and his son, let alone literal children in later series. Both factions had real bases while we _still_ don't have one for Autobots or Decepticons (took 35+ years to even see the ships). And over just ~80 4" toys, they did alt modes that took _decades_ to appear in a TF line if ever.

Seems pretty stupid to crucify them over some punny names. As if Coptur is any more stupid than most of Cheetor, Rhinox, or Dinobot.
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>>10935188
GoBots are cyborgs, so they don't count for female representation. TV shows about organics have lots of female characters already.
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>>10935192
No one cares about that technicality except hardcore fans.
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>>10935194
Which are the only people still discussing Gobots.
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>>10935194
>Why do Transformers have gender?
>Long drawn out arguments that get in defining what gender even is to begin with.
Versus:
>Why do GoBots have gender?
>Because they used to be humanlike aliens.
>No issues
This isn't the same thing.
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>>10935194
That wasn't even proven anyway. All of the toyline's copy says they're robots and almost every episode treats them that way too. The entire argument for cyborgs hinges on one really convenient scene in a single episode that could just as well have been a trick to turn a human-built robot against the Renegades. It's just super autism on the part of the TF wiki autists.
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>>10935112
It was a little too meta for its own good. Like how Road Ranger is super important solely because he looks like Optimus Prime.
I wish the comic never had its time skip and the whole series was about the original conflict, Cy-kill's revolution and Leader-1's conflicting loyalties.
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>>10935201
That is blatantly wrong and you know it.
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>>10935209
>>10935201
>cyborg
And I'm defining cyborg here as a robot with organic parts. I absolutely agree that they used to be human-like aliens. I just don't agree that they still have the organic parts.

You go back to that scene in "Sentinel." The human-built robot goes haywire, scans the Renegades, determines they're robots, and allies with them against the organic humans and the Guardians. Completely outgunned, the Guardians give it a specific frequency to scan them again on and suddenly it sees organic brains.

BRAINS SHAPED LIKE THEIR ROBOT HEADS. For fuck's sake, their brains should've all been the same shape since they came form the same organic species. Obviously Scooter is feeding it fake visuals. Of, you know, the one thing that will turn this robot against the Renegades so it stops attacking Earth. It's clear as fucking day.
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>>10935216
The brains should've been smaller too since they would've come from a species the same size as actual humans (we have the Last Engineer and Master Renegade for reference). It's absolutely bizarre that people will shit all over "continuity" or lack thereof in these shows and then hang on a convenient plot contrivance with such a death grip. But then we are talking about the looney troons at #wiigii...
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>>10935216
So what do interpret them as considering the point was to save his people? Letting them die out anyway and building mechanical beings that mimic the brain functions of their species as a replacement?
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>>10935208
Slave caste revolt and conflicting feelings because of loyalty to your creator are generic story things. They can be skipped because they have been done thousands of times already.
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>>10933464
>Super Ginrai is 46200 yen
>Proportions of combined mode looks like shit

wtf is takara doing.
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>>10935237
Kobayashi is taking the brand down with him, that tooner fuck
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>>10935230
I've always maintained that it's basically what Ira Graves did to Data in "The Schizoid Man" episode of Star Trek TNG. I know GoBots predates TNG by a couple of years but there are so many Star Trek tropes in the show and TNG shared alot of writers/stories with TOS. If you were thinking with that sort of sci-fi (as opposed to, say, Star Wars or Dr Who) mindset, I think such parallels years down the road are perfectly plausible.

But it still really comes down to everything else saying robots and this one instance saying otherwise in service of an episodic plot that's never brought up again.
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>>10935239
So they are just copies and not actually alive.
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>Robots in Disguise
>Are actually energy beings manipulating metal shells and openly work with or fight against the humans whose vehicles they copy the appearance of
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>>10935242
Depends on if you think it (either example) is a copy or a transfer. I go with transfer personally. But it's easy to fall down that road of questioning if the Picard that materialized on the planet below is the same Picard that was in the transporter room a minute ago.
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>>10935247
>energy beings manipulating metal shells
Every time you post this I wish you were dead. Kill yourself.
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>>10935249
It isn't. You killed Picard and made a copy elsewhere.
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>>10935247
>Robots in Disguise
>choose to "disguise" themselves as giant monstrous fauna robots
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>>10935250
If you want them to be actual robots, they need to be constructed. Even the original Robotnik despite being squishy material had parts grown in a lab and assembled.
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>>10935251
Did you though? If the transporter turns matter into energy and back, wouldn't it be the same molecules in the same configuration just in a different place? That would seem to be a requirement for A) not being able to beam "through" shields or B) somebody to get "stuck" in the buffer like Scotty did. But we could go in circles forever.
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>>10935256
If you are saying that the Federation tampers with the soul with their technology, that means they commit blasphemy on a regular basis.
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>>10935253
>Robotnik
Oh that explains it, you're a sonic autist. Kill yourself.
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>>10935260
>Sonic invented robots
>When robots themselves are lazy ripoffs of the idea of golems
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>>10935256
yeah star trek doesn't ALWAYS make it clear, but they are -transmitting- your particles, not just a signal with a copy of your particle code. otherwise they could just email that over in advance.
The rare occasions it causes cloning is when the transmitted particles bounce in a way that the machine turns them back into you (Filling in as much as it needs to) twice.
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>>10935268
That it is possible to produce duplicates at all is disturbing.
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>>10935270
granted, but once you start converting people into energy particle things, you're already messing with some crazy shit.
they had multiple episodes about just -how many- special units are necessary for the shits to work properly, and how they've installed multiple redundant backup ones just because they KNOW what will happen if it fucks up.
they even mention a device that somehow compensates for heisenberg's uncertainty principle. the fact that you can only have a general idea of where any electron is at any given time..
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>>10935272
oh right
how does the spacebridge work? is it basically a controlled wormhole?
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>>10935272
It was popular once, but then they killed off Optimus Prime and replaced him with the guy that killed him and died off.
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>>10935273
All these horrific things that were done to save budget by not having ship landing scenes.
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>>10935275
Seems like it. You can even see the other side sometimes.
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>>10935277
RIGHT? They inadvertently changed them from a really advanced future military fleet to masters of matter and energy conversion..
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I didn't mean to turn this intro a thread on Federation technology or philosophy. It's just interesting to me the sort of internal consistency Star Trek maintained for a long time and that adjacent fiction indirectly benefited from. There's definitely stuff about the GoBots universe that doesn't make alot of sense but alot less than if you couldn't fall back on "well, it works this way in Star Trek."
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>>10935281
When in Star Trek did people automatically return to where they were beamed from after a fixed amount of time?
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>>10935272
I miss Pat Lee and his weirdly inconsistent artwork. The old artworks we get on toys from the early 2000s till Universe 2008 are shit yet still great to look at.
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>>10935281
bringing up star trek in a scifi discussion is like bringing up the simpsons in a comedy discussion. it's not your fault there's hundreds of episodes that perfectly cover the subject
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>>10935283
Well there was that one episode of DS9 where O'Brien kept skipping forward a few hours and jumping back.

There were also two episodes of GoBots that featured an Astrobeam with no time limit. One was a prototype, the other was a modified Astrobeam disruptor that required a massive amount of power.
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>>10935285
Marcelo Matere drew that image.
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>>10935287
the gobots astrobeam has a time limit?
man that makes me think of that hilarious Conan saturday morning cartoon where they had to soften all the carnage by having the enemies just teleport back home when hit
but then once they stormed their base, hitting them didn't accomplish anything..
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So what were the images all of these were copied from? Garfield was blatantly Blaster since he has a lot of vestigial traits, but the rest I'm too weak to recognize offhand. Like I first through this was Chromedome's, but the pose is actually different so it must have been another as the source.
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>>10935294
slamdance
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>>10935296
Thanks. That makes it feel even weirder honestly.
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>>10935294
it's really sad how much work was put into this, despite... everything.
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>>10935299
The A->C doesn't feel correct though.
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>>10935311
the what now?
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>>10935322
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>>10935323
literal edgy deviantart tier
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>>10935325
Optimus Prime was played by woman at a script reading. Because Transformers doesn't do crossdressing voice actors usually, AVP decided to claim it was a universe with girl version. So things that don't really matter in the long run.
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>>10935328
who is avp?
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>>10935323
i like it
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>>10935325
What's not to get?
>>10935329
Ask Vector Prime.
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>>10935323
I swear I've seen that exact head design somewhere. Some late G1 or G2 guy.
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>>10935334
Clench
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>>10935335
Similar, but no.
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>>10934621
I kind of want swappable toy model heads for the dinobots.
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>>10933391
>my husband will be released this month
bros...im so happy...
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>>10935346
On that note, got my payment notification on Core Cheetor, Shard, Origins Wheeljack, and Starscream. Gears was in the second batch of preorders so he won't fulfill yet.
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>>10934548
Would it not be more logical to compare it to the show?
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>>10935346
he has a lot going for him, despite some flaws. i'll definitely be keeping an eye out.
>>10935349
well in this case, the show model was based on the toy, so... they shouldn't disagree that much, and I think the show model and old toy have more in common than the show model and this new one..
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>>10935350
Some people can't even get the show colors right, the subtler details probably require more scrutiny.
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>>10935352
In this case i really don't think it would have been possible to get the colors right without using iridescent... paint? I don't think plastic could do it.. Chrome would be nice, obviously, that's what they were evoking since it was chrome on the original toy.
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>>10935323
Notably the plan was for the energon crystals to be tranlslucent but they realized that would have been terrible for structural reasons of the whole "tear apart and reassemble" gimmick.
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>>10935346
I'm surprised none of the usual reviewers have got him early. I hope he's solid.
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>>10935346
Wasn't he scheduled for July?
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Does anyone have readable scans/photos of the bio cards for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus, Fallback, and Ricochet?
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>>10935393
probably
but if they don't want to share looking at ebay listing might get you results
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Got charged for wave 2 on pulse
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>decide not to get Haslab RID prime
>MP super Ginrai announced

I guess it will be money better spend
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>>10935105
>>10935112
Another thing worth pointing out is how it's left VERY open-ended as to whether or not the humans actually managed to convince the businessmen in the past of the GoBots' danger. Maybe they did and that led to the potential future of the GoBots becoming progenitors of a sort to the Transformers, OR they could have succeeded and that future never came to pass at all.
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>>10935431
>I wish I was never forged
Jesus Prime, don't be such a drama mama
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based Scioliposter
but this should go on /co/
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>>10935276
Megatron replaced Optimus Prime? That's not how I remember it.
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>>10935452
boomers still seething about hotGOD 40 years later
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>>10935474
People only like him now because worse guys in the same archetype showing up later.
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>>10933464
>24k yen for something that looks like it has way simpler engineering than your average mainline figure.
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>>10935481
Might have articulated fingers
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>>10935481
Yeah. I was sort of excited about him but after seeing the combined pics of him, he really does look not as MP as I'd hoped. I still might get him.
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>>10935474
it's insane the pepetual memetic hatred for rodimus, probably the biggest creative risk and most interesting narrative spin in the franchise's history
co-incidentally everyone rags on energon with whom protagonist shares a few things in common
guess manbabies just want a strawman flawless leader so they don't have to think
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Ask Vector Prime and its consequences have been a disaster for the transformers franchise.
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>>10935490
Rodimus barely does shit in Energon. He just shows up, fights the good guys because he has a stupid idea of using Unicron to heal the universe, and gets in line.
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>>10935491
Disaster suggests a greater range of spread than it actually has. Something like a mistake is more accurate.
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>>10935490
Please understand, the autistic manchildren with arrested development that comprise this fandom think optimus prime is their dad.
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>>10935492
i was referring to Kicker, the protag
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>>10935499
How do you think Kicker is similar to Hot Rod? Kicker isn't even a Transformer.
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>>10935502
for one they both have to learn on the job while relying on their team
cybertron refined and really nailed this moral point by the end, after they took optimus off the dash
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>>10935323
It's always funny to me to see pics like these in the design phase. Same person designed Inferno right? These drawings have the bodies so narrow looking and then the final product looks almost completely different. I guess you don't need to be a master artist to get this job. I'm not taking a dig at them either. I'm actually kind of jealous. I always wanted to design Transformers.

Either way, I'm glad they went the "death crystal" route because she looks much better in green.
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>>10935495
this
those with good family relations self inserted as hot rod
those without saw Hot rod like a red headed step brother that ruined everything
at least, my theory
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>>10935562
Doesn't Hot Rod get his girlfriend stolen by Springer and have constant crippling self-doubt issues once he becomes Rodimus Prime? Seems bad to self-insert as.
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Just got my Pred Sandstorm and TM2 Megatron in. Legacy TM2 Megatron is pretty darn big and hes very solid, I'm pretty damn happy with him. His chest didn't tab in quite right at first because there was some plastic flaring in the slot that on the chest which the head section's base clips into, but some fiddling with the exacto took care of that and now hes fine. Pretty nice figure especially for $40.

As for Sandstorm, well I have Buzzworthy Scorponok already, but I got him for cheap. I really love his colors though. Soon enough my Beast Wars characters collection will be complete, although I'm still not sold on Tigerhawk.
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>>10935323
At least the chest plate on this makes it a bit more obvious she's supposed to be a chick. While I don't mind the green they ultimately went with, I still would have preferred that they made her crystals clear or at least semi-opaque.>>10935325
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>>10935644
The legs aren't very feminine.
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So at this point they at least have officially announced everything that can be found at stores, right?
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>>10935697
Yes, now we will have leaks for United w3 deluxes so 1 great, 1 ok, 1 shit.
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Got a hold of Sun. He's actually better in hand and I don't hate his transformation it's sorta like Prime Wheeljack. Just wish the kibble folded away better in robot mode. The color match is alright too.
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>>10935587
Snarl, being the poorest of the Dinobots, couldn't afford the gold plating on his head and legs.
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>>10935678
That's why I said 'a but more obvious ', not 'totally obvious '. The picture gives her a bust by making the helicopter canopy curved; even if she doesn't have the hips of a fembot, at least the intent was clearer than what we're getting for the final product, which has a broad, flat chest without so much as a hint of femininity to the design.
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>>10935748
The robot parts feel like a mistake instead of having an entirely crystalline form.
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>>10935362
would that really be a problem vs a lot of pins being pulled on and stuff?
of all the transparent breakages i've heard about, none was 'repeated plugging and unplugging pegs into holes'
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>>10935402
imagine nazonohana being someone's favorite pokemon to the extent of having a plush that big. i love it. i want one.
also bbts is finally getting my SS primal in stock. i can't believe this entire time i was not able to get him at more of a discount.
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>>10935728
Do you live in the SGV Los Angeles area? If so you beat me to him today. Found Sideswipe twice but no Sunny. Reee
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>>10935524
>I guess you don't need to be a master artist to get this job
His work is really amateur ish, I could see him as part of the team but how the fuck did he became the lead designer, did anyone else with more experience left?
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>>10935524
Do you not understand what concept art is
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>>>10935770
They have the people at Takara do the final work anyway. It only needs to express the idea of what it should look like.
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>>10935402
>Passes on good prime
>Has confidence in MP Slop despite all the turds lately
Man
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>>10935806
Wasn't Star Saber a QC mess?
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OK but when's Bravemasters
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>>10935808
Haslab?
Like minimal in the ankles with an easy fix but yea he had some shit paint issues
Deathsaurus apparently is totally fine except a waist part to keep an eye on when transforming
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>>10935809
Never. It was a rejected pitch.
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>>10935809
Ligma balls
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>>10935811
It goes in options, not name field.
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>>10935779
That's what happens when constant turnover makes your lead designer change every 3 years
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>>10935809
QRD?
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>>10935828
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bravemasters
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>>10935816
Ligma
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>>10935431
What the hell is Optimus's mode here
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>>10935475
that's kinda how brains work. it's called perspective.
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>>10935490
consider the following:
terry mcginnis
>>10935609
yeah I had trouble with his chest too. he is decently big, but much of it is legs, and he's out of scale with the rest of the line due to size creep in season 3
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>>10935838
extradimensional snail
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>>10935678
ehhh they taper downward, they look like thigh highs..
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>>10935841
Eh I've never cared about scale much. Plus, hes Megatron, hes the big bad guy, so he gets to be the big git. Wonder if we'll see another Optimal Optimus.

Anybody have the PoTP Optimal? How is he? Up to modern standards or weordly hollow like some of the TR retro headmasters?
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>>10935776
I live in orange county. Was hoping to see Jack and Blaster but no luck.
Sunny Boy is still a good find at least.
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>>10935838
That's his "Optimal Prime" mode.
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>>10935728
that's... a pretty fucking cool car. i'd drive that.
>>10935770
er, nazonokusa..
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>>10935860
I have many questions.
>>10935850
POTP primal looks okay in some ways, I wouldn't be happy with him as MY optimal optimus. I got a thirdparty one for that. But a lot of those look like shit too.
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>>10935865
Then ask them, because I don't understand what you could not be understanding by now.
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Does anyone want a slammer? Accidentally bought 2 for 10 bucks.
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>>10935850
>Anybody have the PoTP Optimal? How is he? Up to modern standards
Hes still decent, fun easy transformations and good size with all the basic articylation on big mode, greatly improved with the backpack mod (just remove one pin), but he lost his tank mode, feel more complete if you get him the dna kit.
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>>10935882
A transformers slammer? hell yeah. I'll give you a couple bucks if they look cool. might be able to ship them cheaply in a wee padded envelope.
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>>10935895
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>>10935901
I don't know where the fuck my head was, I mean it was back in the 90s for sure. But when you said "accidentally" and "2 for 10 bucks" my brain went right to when my mom's friend bought a slammer by mistake (thinking it was a fridge magnet) and gave it to me.
I'm sorry to have wasted your time but seriously can we please have a return of POGs? I would buy so many transformers pogs.
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>>10935904
You could make a game that takes advantage of having vehicle mode on one side, robot the other.
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>>10935908
holy shit that could work
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>>10935393
I found Deathsaurus, now I just need Fallback and Ricochet.
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Can somebody explain to me the Ginrai situation? ShowZ has two listings: MP-60 Ginrai and MPG-09 Super Ginrai. Do I need to preorder both or does MPG-09 include MP-60?
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>>10935969
MPG-09 almost definitely includes MP-60
But it doesn't even get officially announced until the 10th so all your questions will be answered then
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>>10935969
>MP-60
Toy colors, cab only
>MPG-09
(Presumably) Toon colors, includes trailer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLCyU8nx8A4&ab_channel=TJOmega
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>>10936042
You GOTTA stop "ironically" posting TJ of all people man
Not a soul likes him
Also Advertising
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>>10936057
For real, hes a greasy worm of a human being. Practically a parody of a nerd.
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All these Bumblebee variants in the lore, and the only one to exist as a toy was Cliffjumper. Even the convention didn't have a Bumblebee.
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>>10936064
When are we getting a Glyph damnit?
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>>10936066
In general? When a movie has one as Bumblebee's little sister.
Animated? Never.
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>>10936064
>We get Newage Animated WAsp out of Windcharger/Tailgate mold before Hasbro or anybody else makes a Glyph
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>>10936064
There's a listing for a new Wasp toy, no clue if he'll have a new mold or just reuse the new animated bee mold (he probably will, but who knows).
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>>10936075
It's really too bad it's bundled with another repaint of the exact same mold that I don't care about at all, fuckin newage
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What is up with Stalker and Rotorstorm? They clash with their allies, but wouldn't fit even if you swapped factions.
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>>10936076
Oh, of course it will be. Fingers crossed we'll get better TFA figures in 2026 though I guess, seeing as this Wasp is the only TFA character leaked next year, and he's most definitely a mild retool. We don't have leaks for any Prime, RiD15, or Cyberverse figures next year neither, so I can only assume it's because they're potentially rethinking their approach to their artstyles? Idk.
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>>10936107
If you have two concurrent "themes" as well, that eats up a lot of slots.
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>>10935882
>tfw Canada
This might be more trouble for you than it's worth
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Anyone got a link to the Mega? I kind of want to read All Hail Megatron again. Thanks
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>>10936125
Go to your LCS you parasite.
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>>10936129
cope
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>>10936084
funny, I want the other one but don't want wasp
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>>10936125
Getcomics and readcomiconline are right there, my guy.

>>10936129
What world do you live in where your LCS has All Hail Megatron ~15 years later...?
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>>10936107
Maybe one of the store exclusive capsules will have Prime Tailgate (from Prime Cliffjumper) and RiD15 Nightra (from Strongarm)?

Those seem like easy retools.
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>>10936181
If they make that mold in a tfp tailgate deco I WILL buy it
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>>10936107
I’d love a Cyberverse Megatron X redeco
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>>10936129
Ligma
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>>10936107
>We don't have leaks for any Prime, RiD15, or Cyberverse figures next year
Depends on how they handle the Primes.
I can't imagine Micronus being anything but his RID15 design, or Alchemist anything but Cyberverse.
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I got this haul from HLJ today :)
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>>10936250
fun
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>>10933629
mang remember when MP starscream came out?
and they got kawamori to do the design...
and he ended up more accurate in jet mode and looked a bit off in bot mode?
and the fandumb collectively shit it's pants in rage at how it was "wrong"?
yeah. that's why they're not changing the design up like that. because even if it'd be neat, the target market would hate it.
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>>10936260
Starscream was colored like a real-world one and not a Starscream.
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>>10936105
diversity hires
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Anyone care to defend Studio Gamer Series Sideswipe?
He looks kinda shit like the rest of gamer series cept Prime.
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>>10936277
Red is a popular color.
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>>10936260
>and looked a bit off in bot mode
Don't try to downplay it, these hip things looked like ass and it was a mess of a figure to boot. And all the retools of that mold were pretty bad too, even after removing the crappy feet they still had problems like the torso not locking in place. It was just flawed.

Kawamori is good at designing "realistic" jet robots and I appreciate his Macross designs, but he needs to start from scratch and create a new design like he usually does to reach full potential. If they released it as an "Starscream Kawamori ver." after a more accurate Starscream was already on the market it could have been a fun novelty, but I can totally understand people disliking it back int he day when that was the one and only MP Starscream.
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>>10936260
What a disingenuous description. This figure was never good.
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>>10936304
As much as people justifiably shit on this mold, I've always genuinely liked this deco
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>>10936304
I can't even pput into words what's not working here. the shoulder and biceps and forearms don't seem to match, the toe angle seems just wrong, the thighs.. i dunno, where do they bend?
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>>10936298
I hate how the mold FEELS. It's the only toy I've ever owned that I could describe as "rickety". Like it's made of sticks ready to snap under their own weight. The revised version doesn't have this feel, just the original MP03 version. I don't get it. It's just an awful toy.
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>>10936067
G1 Glyph
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>>10936328
Isn't worth the money paying for the likeness rights to Volkswagen again to use the current one. You will at minimum need to wait until the next nonspecific looking car Bumblebee.
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>>10936304
So what would they call the Earthrise Starsceam in these colors and some retooled parts including a fake nosecone side skirt? Nightscream? Eagle Strike?
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>>10936341
just use the Cliffjumper mold with a new head
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>>10936361
That seems better suited for Tap-Out.
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Here's some more.
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>>10936064
TFA Glyph and Tap-Out are the weird ones out of all the Glyphs and Tap-Outs. Glyph steals Tap-Out's usual color while Tap-Out get shifted into a different green.
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I just realized that Jhiaxus has a surprisingly similar transformation to Armada Jetifre.
The undercarriage looks way similar, even with a spot for a minicon to act as the landing gear.
makes me wonder if they were working on a jetfire, but shelved him for 2027 and salvaged what they had by turning it into jhiaxus.
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>>10935587
>>10935589
i was onboard for these but by sludge i was pretty whatever about them. slag looks like shit in robot mode and sludge is so blah
i skipped snarl and now he's impossible, so i think i'll just let these 3 go so someone who missed them at retail
i did get yellow grimlock doe and look forward to the G2 recolor
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>>10936442
believe it or not, anon, most jetformers end up transforming pretty simlarly
unless you're this hot stud
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>>10936064
>>10936389
MATORAN
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>>10936456
...no?
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>>10936112
You pay shipping and he's yours
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>>10936277
I found him today and didnt open him. (typically that means I didnt really want the figure as bad as I thought). He looks insanely mid
>tfw I was gonna flip him on ebay and he dropped $20 in value today
Im stuck w him now I guess
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>>10936250
shave off the bumps on Ultra Magnus' side shoulder panels. they'll get massive stress marks or break otherwise.
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>>10936464
Throwaway email? Actually, here
frenlyai@proton.me
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>>10936479
>>10936464
Sorry for the curt reply, thought the power would go out again, hopefully the shipping isn't that expensive
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My aliexpress order is caught in customs .. it's so joever bros..
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>>10936537
let me guess
you bought a Megatron that comes shipped in gun mode
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>>10936539
J-just a core soundwave actually. Already got the big lad from before he could only be a tank
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>>10936392
Glyph should be Bumblebee's waifu
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>>10936250
Why you buyed mainline figures from an international retailer
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>>10936250
>even the voyagers have closed box packaging in japan
I’m glad they realized it was a mistake.
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>>10936673
Closed box packaging is fine but the people over here who complain about packaging HATE closed box packaging even more than open boxes.
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>>10936679
plastic window boxes > plasticless closed box >>>>> plasticless open box

I absolutely despise when the toy itself isn’t even protected and a dozen greasy neckbeards and snotty kids passing through walmart can touch the toy or literally remove parts before I can even buy it
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>>10936673
Not only the Voyagers, the SS deluxes too.
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>>10936452
I love my Spacecase version of this guy - while I wish he came in his G2 colors (and apparently he was planned to, but the idea was scrapped), the opaque blue with silver Cybertronian tattoos looks so cool.
I also like that the way this mold's arms transform lets you turn his wrists around to become blasters so he's not just stuck with a trident (which also has a small gun sculpted onto its tip, but gun arms are cooler).
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>>10936392
Newage pls
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>wheeljack out for delivery
>My street is literally removed right now, and is just a pile of dirt, waiting for asphalt
Welp, wonder if I'll get it
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I'm at Walmart right now which one of these 4 should I get
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>>10936860
Windblade, though honestly any of the ones that aren't the rock are good choices.
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>>10935490
Eh, tbf, Rodimus did act like a bitch about being a leader for most of season 3.
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>Still waiting for Kaen
I know the combined mode sucks, but I want my trainbois to have their final friend
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>>10936782
>the opaque blue with silver Cybertronian tattoos
That's opaque???
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>>10936947
He's also the best of the lot
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>>10936864
Magneous is still a solid figure, its just that he's a brand new character nobody has any attatchment to and I suppose his color is kind of boring compared to the other 2 rock vehicles but I still think he's being slept on.
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>>10936673
closed is not a solution
we want to see the product
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>>10936975
Semi-opaque; he's not completely transparent, but he's also not solid, and you can vaguely make out the shape of his various parts through the blue - he's just not completely clear like, say, a windshield, and it comes off as more of a 'frosted glass's effect, if that makes sense.
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>>10936860
Chase (particularly if you’re not getting the 4pack with Cliffjumper using that mold) or Windblade
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>>10936860
Go for chase
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Got the new screaming star in.
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>>10936985
He looks so good, I can't wait.
These have honestly been alot of fun and brought me back to transformers again. I regret selling most of my collection. I hope they do some Headmasters to go with the trainbois. Might have to start trying to get the Titan Returns versions.....
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I drove 45 min and paid someone $35 for Studio Series Sunstreaker. He is very cool, but not $35 and 1.5 hrs driving cool. What bugs me about the BB cybertronians is that their alt modes are so unrestrained that I feel like they couldve gone nuts with their articulation but theye all super mediocre in that department. Also just got gamer OP and his alt mode looks great with those guys but in robot mode he just bareeeely fits w those guys aestheticly.
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>>10936947
>I know the combined mode sucks
Honestly I want them for their robot modes, I would love to build up my Japanese G1 collection some more.
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>>10936860
Windblade sux, get Chase
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>>10936988
Isn't he getting a repaint in white and purple or something? I'd rather wait for that
A little orange would've gone a long way
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hey question on this. In robot mode am i sorta just letting his shoulder lean forward a little? I feel like it should peg in somewhere or snap into place but it kinda just...chills.
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>>10937110
also his weapon wont hide anywhere? it just sits on the front like a giant fking 10 foot bumper
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>>10937111
you're among friends, anon. you can say fuck.
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How good does Chase's head look? I'm not familiar with the source material and everything else about the figure looks fine, think I was told it was either a faceplate or an underbite
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>>10937148
I think Chase has a big ass chin. not Transformers Animated huge chin but still a bit of a big chin.
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>>10936805
He made it! Opening now
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>>10937138
fuck.
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>>10936370
give her a sexy ass and legs too
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>>10937172
ᵢ'ₘ ₜₑₗₗᵢₙ9 ₒₙ ᵧₒᵤ
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>>10937172
feels good, donnit?
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>>10935969
>>10935973
>>10935981
I asked for a new Ginrai, but I never asked for a Masterpiece. Fuck, now I'm gonna procrastinate for an eventual God Ginrai box set that will kill three bank accounts in exchange for bonuses not found in separate releases. This is way more ambitious than the Diaclone Robot Base GX.
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Cybertron Legacy Starscream isn't the perfect toy.
But being able to move the blades to his forearms is such a nice thing to have that it easily lets me overlook some issues it has.
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>>10937206
What flaws does he have? Beyond paint things.
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>>10937244
Head had no articulation.
The blade armature pops off more than I'd like.
And my copy likes having one of his arms pop off. It's as easy fix but still.
And yeah Hasbro really couldn't be fucked to give his legs some paint. Otherwise I think he's pretty well done in paint.
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>>10936860
Bee is in wave 2
Magneous is a warmer
Windblade is the weakest of the wave unless you really like her and don't care she looks like a linebacker

Therefore:
Chase, unless you really hate police cars or think rescue bots is too juvenile
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>>10937274
So a whole wave of skip.
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>>10937148
I think the Legacy Chase prolly has the best adaptation of a post-2007 design's head in general so far; it has a large classically-robotic jaw just like the original.
Overall, his figure all over has the same shaping and proportions as the original design; just with more details and less-simplified vehicle shapes so it can actually transform irl, like the shoulders arent just cylinders with wheels but resemble his design anyway.
Only nitpick I have is that I wish the visor was transparent instead of painted, so that you could see his pupils from behind. The paint definitely looks cool, but imo brings to mind the G1 deceptigoons like the Insecticons and Constructicons a bit much, whereas Chase had a bit more personality I think. But ah well, it's not the end of the world, I still like him lol.
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>>10937110
Maybe his chest isn't fully clicked into place, the front edge of the shoulders should sit behind his wheel pecs.

>>10937111
There are tabs on the weapon to plug onto the top of the truck bed in vehicle mode.

Also if you want to you can take the pieces off his arms and plug them into the back of his legs to make them less hollow.
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>>10937206
How come you like moving his blades/shoulder thrusters to the forearms? I've seen a few ppl do that and keep thinking it looks mad ugly, personally.
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>>10934871
I have that set, ONLY because I was living in Japan at the time, and got them out of the out of the little blind boxes (which also came with like a crappy wafer cookie). Although one of the legs is the white chase variant.
Also got a few of Sixbuild and Sixtrain.
Kinda makes me wish there were more mini combiner teams.
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>>10937286
Basically...
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>>10937307
It feels more natural to keep the blades on the forearms than on the shoulders when it comes to feeling like an actual usable weapon.
I still like the look of them on the shoulders when not in use, but this is easily my preferred look for the design now.
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>>10936860
Chase.

Windblade is tiny for $25. Bee is even smaller for the price. Mangeous is partsforming. and Chase is the only real choice, despite his weird, tiny accessories.
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>>10937325
Fair enough mang. One thing I'm glad for is that all the ports really let dudes play with their figures however they feel like, lol.
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>>10936860
Chase good
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Finally got Scarr and Swoop in my Pile of Loot. Let's just hope Core Snarl doesn't take another 15 months.
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>>10937326
Magneous doesn't actually need to partsform to go from vehicle to robot, he can transform just fine without taking anything off. You only need to take things apart if you want to use the armorizer gimmick
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>>10937153
>>10937303
Alright, I'll keep an eye out for him and find clips of him talking and see how that goes
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>>10937325
>>10937335
I wish the blades just popped out to be standard hand held weapons.
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>>10937039
lucky for you the "G1 reissues" from Walmart that came out like 2 years ago are stupid easy to find on ebay if you just want the TR ones.
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>>10937481
Gosh I wish they were actual G1s
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Just got billed by Hasbro Pulse for the Autobot 5 pack.
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>>10937506
neat
BBTS got SS primal in, so now he's sitting in my pile of loot waiting for the other two things listed as "april 2024" (that used to say march)
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>>10937506
I just got billed by Amiami for a Nemesis Bridge set and a MPM Bonecrusher
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>watching a review of Sandstorm

Christ. And I thought the pictures were bad. This thing looks awful.

>lanky weird looking robot mode
>fucked up shitty looking dune buggy
>helicopter looks passable, but only because its just a fuckingbrick
>forget for a second its also a leader class somehow
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>>10937484
same. I wonder if the molds got lost. Seeing how they were never properly reissued. The decepticon 3 had reissue kos though.
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>>10937514
Regretting not getting Thrilling 30 Sandstorm when I had the chance.
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>>10937532
Maybe I should start thinking about selling mine.
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The new Starscream. What was the purple thing it came with? I dropped it and can't find it
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>>10937514
Thats just how G1 Sandstorm looks like (toy and cartoon are slim bots with fuck huge backpacks), its ok if you don't like the character design but the toy is fine, it looks like the character thats supposed to represent.

>>10937532
I still see him all the time with second hand sellers.
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>>10937540
They fake cyberkey? its an homage to the old gimmick, it does nothing.
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Didn't someone manage to adapt the old minicons to the legacy figures? Are they still lurking here? I really wanna give my Megatron his Leader-1.
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>>10937541
>but the toy is fine

lol

LMAO even
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>>10937546
someday we're going to look back on this era and wonder what the FUCK was with all the tiny toes and huge heels.
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>>10937547

The huge heels on Sandstorm were probably them designing it and going "Oh fuck, this piece of shit falls over constantly because we made the backpack way too big. uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh, just give him huge heels to hold it up."
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>>10937547
Plastic will be even thinner in the future.
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>>10937547
>FUCK was with all the tiny toes
So the buggy doesn't have a extra long fender.

>and huge heels.
Needed, hes obviously back heavy.

>>10937546
Not sure what you expected in a mainline budget.
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>>10937552

>springers a voyager class
>sandstorms a leader class
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>>10937558
Surely Sandstorm's popularity will push sales...
Sandstorm is going to still be on shelves in 2025.
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>>10937560
Won't be the only Sandstorm, I still see the scorpion.
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>>10937551
i don't think there's going to be a future of products if this continues, we don't have to worry that they'll push things any further.
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>sandstorm comes with a tiny cuck cage
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>>10937562
right? that's where i went first. i like that little guy. though I did repaint his purple parts to brown so they wouldn't clash
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>>10937562
How many people named Sandstorm actually relate to sand?
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You can put a Joe inside Jack.
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>>10937576
oh myyy..
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>>10937576
That's somethin' else, honey.
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>>10936477
Got a pic of where exactly?
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>>10937552
>Legacy Blackout will be a tiny ass Decepticon
Toy accuracy bros, we won!
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>>10937514
>>helicopter looks passable, but only because its just a fuckingbrick
I understand your other points but what do you expect from a helicopter mode? They aren't exactly known for being articulated
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Ever eince I got this guy, I cannot put him down. I love this big fucker! He just feels so solid. He lacks the typical intricacy I prefer but he just works so well. I do wish his head and chest claws clipped in with a bit more of a robust system, but wow he really was worth it.

I'm curious, does this "just feels worth it" effect translate to Armada Megs? I may end up start8ng a Megatron collection at some point, given that I have 5 seperate renditions of the character.
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>>10937763
His transformation is simple if that's a dealbreaker, but he's solid and chunky with satisfying ratchets. Though he doesn't become "just feels worth it" until you cut out the gate blocking his turret from spinning 360 (easy), and possibly replacing the shoulders with 3D-printed ones that're more poseable if that's your speed.
I always loved Armada Megatron doe, so I'm biased; I love his sculpt. Just hoping his Powerlinx repaint will have his knife as an accessory, or that someone finally models a show-accurate one for printing... then he'd be perfect. As it stands, Armada Megs is shelfwarming a tad, so wait for a sale.
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>>10937763
>I'm curious, does this "just feels worth it" effect translate to Armada Megs?
Depends, I like him but gimped shoulders that don't lock and flop can piss many people.
Get with future DNA kit or wait for white/purple repaint
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>>10937767
If I could grab him for 30 I'd have no complaints
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>>10937547
I think you'll probably (hopefully) look back on it with a better understanding of physics.
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>>10937763
I liked Armada Megs even before I printed out shoulders for him. A lot of people hate him because of shit like the shoulders and weird "Evo" gimmick, but honestly I really like his look. I think he should have definitely come with more stuff, but I don't foresee us getting an update any time soon so this will have to do.
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>>10937763
>I may end up start8ng a Megatron collection at some point, given that I have 5 seperate renditions of the character.
To be fair, that dragon Megatron isn't a 'Megatron' in the same vein as the others - the BW dude named himself after the real G1 Megs, who exists in the same universe as him, rather than him being an alternate universe incarnation of the same guy the way Armada Megatron or Bayverse Megatron are.
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>>10937812
That's a really sick photo, anon. Almost looks like his waist is bending. God I fucking love his character design lol
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(by bending, I mean curving, along the line of action. Sry I just woke up and am remembering how to speak lol.)
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>>10937306
best I can do. seems wrong.
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What do you hate the most about bayformers
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>>10937546
Looks good to me but I don't care about sunbow
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>>10937914
The first film had the best alt mode for Megatron after G1 and it's not even close. Animated's copter comes close, but I cant help but think the gun looks goofy and tacked on to it lel, unlike the cybertronian jet both there and in the first film.
Either way though, both the jet and the helicopter are focused heavily around the cannon; they're effectively just giant flying guns, which G1 Megs himself was very often.
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Are there any reissues of this? I used to have a couple and enjoyed robot to ball. any recommendations would be appreciated,.
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>>10937914
Buenaventura
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>>10937558
springer also has 2 alt modes that are extremely similar (they REALLY tried to make moving his arms forward one inch take a gorillion steps) while sandstorm doesn't
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>>10937918
>The first film had the best alt mode for Megatron after G1 and it's not even close.

Huh? He transforms into nothing. It's not even your typical cybertronian mode it's just a mass
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>>10937552
>Not sure what you expected in a mainline budget.
Given that toys are more expensive than ever to the point that size classes have supposedly become meaningless in the name of restructuring price-points to fit engineering needs, this is the most retarded cope I've heard here in a while.

The new Sandstorm is a voyager-sized figure with a leader-classed price tag, yet has shit engineering compared to a literal 10-year-old toy that cost half as much. What do I "expect" on a mainline budget? I dunno, but certainly more than we're getting.

Basically, fuck off, shill.
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>>10935587
>>10935589
The dinobots have to be one of the fuck-ugliest group of robots I've ever seen.
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>>10935860
This comic was fun, but it really rubbed me the wrong way after a while with all the liberal bullshit; especially the repeated sacrelige of referring to Optimus as "Gobot Jesus".
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>>10937965
lmao
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>>10937865
Megatron in Prime named himself after a previously existing Megatronus and you don't see any objections to him being Megatron.
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>>10937965
Optimus Prime is a holy being that can resurrect himself from the dead. A western human observer would naturally compare him to Jesus because that is the example they are familiar with.
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>>10937763
I also bought this guy but I've had the opposite reaction; I actually find him somewhat lacklustre.

I love his dragon mode, but I feel like I could've - and should've - just bought an articulated dragon figure that doesn't transform instead for less, because his robot mode just doesn't do it for me. The solid red color scheme just doesn't do it for me; the bits of purple and gold just disappear into the mass of red when on the shelf.

He's probably the first modern toy I've bought in years I've ended up having regrets about buying.
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>>10937977
>Optimus Prime is a holy being that can resurrect himself from the dead.
He doesn't resurrect himself, though. Not in the TF vs GIJoe continuity or any other, really.
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>>10937769
I have both and I really enjoy them. Armada Megatron isn't as impressive, but that might just be because he's your pretty standard H-tank as opposed to a giant dragon.
His transformation is pretty fun, it's simple enough that you can do in under a minute, but everything tabs in place so nicely in vehicle mode, it's really satisfying.
The shoulders are annoying, but the fact that his horns aren't glued in is more annoying (to me at least) because it takes only a mild nudge and they can become crooked or fall out entirely. But that's probably an easy fix.
Honestly I'd say if you see him and the price doesn't bother you, grab him.

Also the end of the tank barrel can come off, with makes his robot mode a lot cleaner looking when you sling it under his arm, but the detached end doesn't plug in or store anywhere else on him.
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>>10937891
>>10937893
Thanks. Yeah I tilted his hips back a little bit to make it look like he was crunching his abs or something. He really does look cool even if he's not perfect.
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>>10937980
Thats too bad, but I get it though. It certainly wouldnt hurt for him to have some of that purple or gold somewhere around the crotch to break up all of the red I'm pretty happy with him though, but I dod get him for $40
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I'm glad Transformers doesn't have chase variants. That seems like hell for getting them.
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>>10938042
>he doesn't know
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I feel like the only reason I'm hanging around these threads is to wait until leaks reveal how the upcoming Sureshot gets monkeypaw'd. Besides the standard shitty alt mode and nearly non-existent wheels BS that comes standard on every modern mainline figure, I mean.
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>>10937961
That's canon
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>>10938050
Draw how you expect them to do him.
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>>10938050
Don't really see why Hasbro is taking so long, they can just redeco him into Joyride and Fizzle!
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>>10937974
The thing is, BW Megatron named himself after G1 Megatron who, it seems, named himself after the Megatron foretold in the Book of Primus...who turned out to be BW Megatron. So which one's the original?
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>>10937546
Looks fine lmao
Gets basically everything right. You're just mad at minuscule aspects
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>>10937903
If you look at either side of the chest part there are some fairly large tabs once the wheels have been folded in those are supposed to rest in rectangular slots on the inside of the shoulder hinges. Maybe try taking the arms off and making sure the longer downward protruding part of the shoulder hinge is clipped over the tabs on either side of the chest.
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>>10938069
>looks bad and unfun in all modes
>"miniscule aspects"
You can't even play the "you're not allowed to want anything beyond geewunn accuracy" card because even the G1 cartoon and original toy had smaller backpacks and more cohesive alt modes, especially the buggy.
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>>10938083
They were also bricks that didn't have articulation or detailing
It was all stickers
Weak argument and you're coping
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>>10938074
I didnt see those!!!! thank you so much!!
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>>10938042
They do, they’re called selects and takara releases
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>>10938083
I don't know why you're acting like the original G1 model sheet is valid for any sort of argument when they frequently erased details, changed proportions, and would completely remake parts of the design for the sake of easy animation
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>>10938133
Those are an issue where they just don't make a lot of them in general. It isn't where you get closed packaging and one in 48 Starscreams are actually Sunstorm or anything.
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Reject munky, become scorpion
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>>10937645
man Dipper Pines really had it rough in his 40s
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>>10937763
there are definitely flaws here, but I like him too.
>>10937980
he feels better with the upgrade kit.
>>10937947
Dude, he turns into the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop. it's a fucking awesome and unique alien jet.
>>10937801
right because it couldn't be bigger toes and smaller heels, no..
>>10938174
oh hey a Fallout abomination
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Got armada megs in preparation for boat bot. Did I overpay, paid 33 bucks
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>>10938196
nahh that's a good price
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>>10938196
Even I'd buy it for 33, whered ya nab him?
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Is the box set worth it for the stands? How stable are they on the train tracks? Do they support them well in bot mode?
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>>10938211
Egay. Was surprised no one bid more.
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I can't believe people send Thew stuff for free and Hasbro likes him. What's he got / doing over someone like PerspectiveEnd or ToyGuy? Also is it true he beat an actual woman and now fucks trannies?
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>>10938216
He looks like a funny uncle. PerspectiveEnd is fucked, but I'm sure that ToyGuy will end up being a semi-official guy in 10-15 years from now.
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>>10938216
is this post /toy/ related or are you whining about eceleb drama
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>>10938226
Eceleb drama.
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>>10938224
Why is PE fucked? I know he's caustic and his thumbs could be better, but he's not a bad watch.
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>>10938231
As you said it, caustic. Hasbro would want non-offensive people if they want to do promotion by interacting with reviewers directly.
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>>10938216
>he still has the transformer I sent him with a dog turd inside
Nice.
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>>10938216
Wait until you find out that he used to post here and was /ourguy/ 10+ years ago
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>>10938255
yeah like most fuckups, he was fine once. nobody comes out the pussy spouting Marx.
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>>10938255
The 2016 reddit tourists only decided they hated him because he didn't like Trump
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>>10938050
>ow the upcoming Sureshot gets monkeypaw'd
well, he's gonna be a Chase retool for one.
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>>10938179
>right because it couldn't be bigger toes and smaller heels, no..
Do you know why he has long ass heels? I'm asking if you even have a basic idea of how gravity works.
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>>10938349
i've got a question for you instead
whycome nobody has ever had to do this before in the history of transformers
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>>10938330
That would be a huge monkey paw. Isn't even the right kind of vehicle.
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>>10938173
Don’t start giving hasbro ideas.
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>>10938354
i tell you what we're gonna run out of monkeys with all these paws. i realize there's four on each monkey but jiminy christ.
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>>10938374
A monkey breeding program. Even if you take all four paws off a monkey, if it is still alive it can have offspring. Soon you will have lots of paws to use for all your needs.
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>>10938375
how the fuck you gonna mate without your extremities to hold on?? who's gonna mate with a monkey who can't pick bugs out of her fur?
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>>10938377
It isn't voluntary.
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I've had Air Raid for a few weeks now but haven't talked about him
Look at this gangly freak
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>>10938412
>long shin syndrome
>pitiful awkward flail and shield weapons
he's not great, but I like his wing pylons. and honestly that shield is good by TF standards, what did it even turn into? a radome?
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>>10938412
I'll give him props for not turning into a fighter plane. Part of a real visible minority
>>10938416
For me its the teeny ball joints at the shoulders and hips
The shins aren't outrageously long by transformers standards, you can see the knee joint at around the middle
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Man, maybe hasbro should just make closed packaging that, overall, resembles the Selects boxes.
That should save on ink, but I'm sure would be boring.
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>>10938423
That's by far the coolest jumbo jet I have ever seen. fucking air intakes on the back? Love it. weiiiird color scheme, though. darker on the bottom? balls to that. so I guess that is a radome. interesting, is this based on a real plane used for radar scouting? Because it looks like a commercial airline to me, minus the windows... and being cool instead of lame.
>knee joint is where it should be
ohh okay, they're just big knee SPIKES. I'm okay with big knee spikes.
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>>10938439
what if they used some spare twist ties to make "prison bars" on the box, like the old Street Sharks (i think. memory is fuzzy), so you could pretend they're busting loose
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>>10938354
>Isn't even the right kind of vehicle
they made a comment about a significant retool coming down the pipeline, and there's no way it was cliffjumper cause they said people would have a hard time believing it was the same mold.
The other thing to consider is, for the entirety of legacy, there has only been 1 deluxe that has no repaints or retools (or planned ones) and that's Gears.
They heavily indicated a different head pointblank was coming
Cosmos is even suppossed to get a gobots recolor eventually so it's entirely likely Gears will get one in the same set too.

Which means the odds of sureshot being a 100% stand alone deluxe mold is... low.

Who knows, maybe they'll retool dragstrip or beachcomber into him, but I wouldn't hold out hope.
Remember what they did to crosshairs
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>>10938451
actually, make the twist ties pink/purple for decepticons, and red/blue for autobots and make them go across in a grid pattern, and it'll look like a computer scan like when megatron becomes galvatron
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>>10938423
Reminds me of Raynos. though its radome was a lot smaller.
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>>10938458
nnneat
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What pleasing colors.
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>>10938490
Homer-approved.
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>>10938490
Should've been a grapple retool but the animation error took the spot of green grapple.
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>>10938412
>>10938423
>>10938490
I love greenformers. We need more green guys
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>>10938508
i can't believe i'm really gonna get this, and just think of it as a weird rock fish for my beastformers shelf. i just hope it rearranges well.
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>>10938511
Seems as good an explanation as any other thing.
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I had no idea there was an Earthspark Prime with a trailer
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Nevermind, I'm dumb and didn't realize this one also had the old Optimus.
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Since like half of Earthspark's toys are just recolors of Cyberverse ones, are they going to make Soundblaster, Nightbird, and Bugbite?
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I like him
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>>10938539
lol, doubtful.
they're probably ending the line this year and moving on to the next one.
They've got another season coming out this year (they greenlit it well over a year ago, before they knew how the rest of season 1, the toy sales, or the dvd sales would do) but that seems to be the end of it. There's been virtually no leaks about upcoming earthspark toys, and while I'm sure they'll announce some in a month or two at the next big event, it's not looking good for them.

Of course, Cyberverse managed to reverse course by bringing out some quality deluxe class figures, but that was to more closely match the WFC trilogy figures being released at the same time, as they were blast-effect compatible.

also, Soundwave in Earthspark is a bomber jet, not a car, so that's not gonna work.
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>>10938553
>Definitely at least tried with Robots in Disguise as part of the whole aim for young children thing, even if it fell into all kinds of weirdness with the Decepticons (admittedly the enemy of the week style means it might be difficult to predict who is "important")
>Half-assed Cyberverse
>Not even pretending to try with Earthspark
The Netflix show to tie into WFC was awful so they abandoned that avenue as well. I wonder if that means there won't be Transformers TV shows for a while.
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Since I got back from the US I've had a fair few TFs coming in, most of them red, oddly enough.
Cliffjumper is ridiculously fun for a toy with no thigh swivels. The robot mode is cute and charming, the transformation is simple but effective and the vehicle mode is just perfect. Love this mold.
Blades is a fantastic figure. I'm not entirely sure what the "proper" config is for the tail halves, they take up less space folded down but they look cooler left up (and a lot of art has them that way with Evac, his mold-donor). Either way, great toy, very satisfying to manipulate with how solid and clicky he is.
Buzzclaw is a bit fiddly and tricky to balance in robot mode but he's so cool I can't be mad at him. The mantis-lizard-thing is a hell of a look.
Detour/Dead End was one I had as a kid so getting him back was very pleasant. Nice little toy, too. I love how goblinesque his proportions are.
Oh yeah, and he came with those two Legends Constructicons, which are surprisingly good considering they're ROTF Legends class figures.
Blades is objectively the best figure but Cliffjumper has absolutely stolen my heart and might be my favourite of the bunch.
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>>10938591
>I'm not entirely sure what the "proper" config is for the tail halves, they take up less space folded down but they look cooler left up
Officially according to the instructions, it's both. Tailfins down is default, tailfins up is "attack mode".
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>>10938598
Ah, gotcha. Thanks anon.
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>>10938567
>The Netflix show to tie into WFC was awful so they abandoned that avenue as well. I wonder if that means there won't be Transformers TV shows for a while.
Considering the company that did the animation for that show straight up went under this month, it'd be easy for them to blame Rooster Teeth (as well they should)
But the other difficulty Earthspark had was the plots were supposed to be quasi-jumping off points from Rise of the Beast, but when that got delayed, it didn't make sense anymore
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>>10938615
???
Why would there be a connection to Rise of the Beasts at all?
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>>10938545
I'm the only one I guess
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>>10938501
Why would Tow Line be a Grapple retool? They look nothing alike
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>>10938625
I don't have Starscream yet so I can't tell you how I feel about him. Projected to arrive over a week from now.
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>>10938622
this. that makes less than no sense.
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I know it's ancient at this point in terms of Internet time but
>BBTS finally shipped BBM Megatron
Bout damn time. PO'd that fucker back in October
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>>10938649
That's odd because I just got the Cybertron Starscream from them yesterday.
BBTS had it before most retailers for a few days too.
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>>10938622
not a solid connection, thematic connection

like how TFPrime had a design language that more closely mimicked the live action movies, and made bumblebee a mute, and had Megatron be a cybertron jet, etc.

Earthspark's family unit borrowed several elements from the ROTB plot :
bilingual, POC moustached man who was born on an island (very different islands though)
Black female character paired with above character
One's ex military, one's a history expert (genders reversed in earthspark)
The human-transformer bond is front and center in both
Arcee and Wheeljack both get episodes in the first 10 highlighting them (they're both in RotB)

I mean, it's normal, they've done this sort of thing since TFAnimated. It's a weird attempt at synergy.
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>>10938653
everyone knew this was coming.
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>>10938654
Oh, and Noah gets a cybertronian powerglove, and so do the malto kids
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>>10938653
huh. looks pretty good to me. an improvement over the original I think
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>>10938654
did you just say POC
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>>10938666
POwer Core (combiner)
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>>10938666
well yeah, cause filipinos and puerto ricans aren't the same, despite both being spanish colonies, filipinos aren't considered hispanic due to being in asia.
And also that's the term the people who made Rise of the Beasts used to describe Noah
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>>10938664
>improvement over the original
The new arms suck, biceps are too short and the shoulders are to deep into the torso, the torso is too short and the head is oversized.

Hope the altmode isn't the same as the fembot, if so, its another huge downgrade.
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>>10938674
The transformation on the original is allegedly horrific, so here's hoping that at least the one on that isn't shit
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>>10938674
>The new arms suck, biceps are too short and the shoulders are to deep into the torso, the torso is too short and the head is oversized.
All of those changes (except maybe the head) improved the figure though.
it's like you think screen accuracy is the only improvement possible
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>>10938676
So you don't own the fembot, I do and yeah its way easier to transform cause it partsform half of the altmode, but sacrificing both modes for an easier transformation is too much.
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>>10938681
They also sacrificed the alt mode because the last time Dodge Viper demanded royalty money.
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>>10938673
jesus tapdancing christ. there goes any chance of me skimming that movie for a few good action scenes.
It's.. not a good feeling wanting to murder most people that I hear about.
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>>10938679
>All of those changes improved the figure though.

Those changes were made to make the upper torso look femenine, male heroic characters are meant to have broad shoulders.
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>>10938681
>So you don't own the fembot
Everything after Wave 1 Evolution completely no-showed in NZ. Would have considered getting her if she was here.
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>>10938674
hmmmm. yeah I retract my statement. the original is better. I remembered this guy looking way worse originally.
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>>10938654
Wheeljack and Arcee are in the "show up in everything" tier. Maybe if Mirage was actually around.
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>>10938684
The torso is proportionately wider than on the original.
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>>10938683
oh, yeah, it's peak "this is so bad but could have been really good if you didn't do this"
They specifically call people racist in the movie too.
I don't know what they were thinking, no wonder it failed
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>>10938545
I want him
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>>10938688
that's fair, but the "human friend of transformers had a special cybertronian glove that gives him powers" is waaaaay too on the nose to be coincidence.
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>>10938691
wait wait didn't that movie take place in the 90s
you call a brother a 'person of color' in the 90s, your face is gettin kicked in
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>>10938696
It is the 90s of a different universe.
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>>10938653
The head sculpt looks terrible and far too large. Also I actually mostly like the mold. But still can’t fathom why they didn’t make the side door back kibble able to fold all the way up and lay flat on the back and mimic the silhouette of his original kibble. Plus back the rear bumper have a secure way to tab onto the peg on the shoulder to replicate the shoulder kibble too - you can kinda do it, but it’s obvious it’s not intentional based on the poor fit.
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>>10938696
No, you misunderstood
the director called Noah a POC
not the people in the movie, the people who MADE the movie
they didn't really care about specifics, they just wanted as many non-whites as possible, and they made that very, very clear.
The end result was a pretty bad cast (the black girl was actually pretty good, compared to everyone else) because they were just trying to tick off diversity points.
they also put a hamfisted attack on the american healthcare system into it too
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>>10938701
No one actually watched the movie, so it is easy to misunderstand.
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>>10938701
ohhh okay. I expect that from them, I can certainly forgive it as long as it's not IN the movie.
I wish those people would just move to europe, enjoy their free health care, then wonder why they have no GDP
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>>10938704
the part that was in the movie is wheeljack calling Noah racist for assuming he was local because he spoke spanish
it was very confusing.
Noah was also confused.

I think it was supposed to be a joke but it landed very badly.
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>>10938708
I feel like that was supposed to be a jab at Skids and Mudflap but it was executed really flaccidly
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Do I get blue Walmart Transmetal Rattrap or a second hand G1 Hardhead?

Saw a deal for these two and can only get one atm. Own reissue and red TM rattrap though, but damn I do love that wind up toy mouse vehicle mode.
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>>10938711
Skids and Mudflap both spoke English though.
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>>10938712
rattrap to the max. I mean look at that guy, is that not an awesome design?
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>>10938713
Plus they were those two guys from Mission Hill except the scott menville one is some black guy instead
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Legends Blackarachnia for 40 bucks
Do I go for it?
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>>10938713
Yeah but they talked like niggers
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There should be a Transformer that hears it is an Earth fighting vehicle and scans something from Robot Wars and has all kinds of impractical for fighting things like a pneumatic flipper as a vehicle. Also is the size of a car so can't actual pass as one.
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>>10938712
Yeah, gonna have to second the Rattrap. That blue is so nice.
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>>10938718
She looks cool, but is kind of dangerous.
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>>10938718
I love her, i'm glad she exists, but.. she's a little awkward.
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>>10938699
And just to prove a point. Just using tape to hold the kibble in place… there is zero reason the existing figure shouldn’t be able to do this. It wouldn’t have resulted in an increased part count. And I refuse to believe adding an extra peg hole to the bumper would have impacted the budget in any way. It just makes no sense. MAYBE the side doors would have needed an extra joint to keep the vehicle mode from having a large joint sticking out. But once again, if it’s the same amount of plastic? Does it matter? Just so many baffling decisions on this mold that could’ve been easily a good figure.
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>>10938719
which is a dialect spoken by people of all races, usually living together and being extremely racist toward each other.
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>>10938653
Easy skip, I'll just grab the original if I ever feel like it.
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>>10938626
i assume he meant hoist
not an exact fit but closer than what we got
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Random Takara fuck up, they added a new tab to Soundwaves hip hinge, it limits hip articulation fucking up his transformation.
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>>10938766
probably just mold flash
nothing you can't cut or shave down
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>>10938767
mold flash isn't a rectangular prism like that
but yeah it would probably be easy to fix. still not what we expect from takara.
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>>10938727
The original's pretty cheap, too, from what I've seen. I got a sealed Car Robots Speed Breaker for like $40, but now I don't want to open it because it's sealed lol
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>>10938725
lol true dat. White trash also talk in ebonics, and yet they're still racist as shit. Based.
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>>10933431
The caveman head rules. Him being wide as fuck for some reason doesn't, though.
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>>10938788
and mexicans and middle eastern and anyone else who lives in the ghetto. Culture ruins a person, not color.
granted, there are few asians doing that. but never zero. And that's more because of a general resistance to assimilation. I seriously doubt there's a genetic factor to it, I can't imagine having flaky earwax or folded eyelids makes you somehow less susceptible to ebonics.
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I tried to put kingdom Prowl toy hax labels on a spare bluestreak and used an extra autorooper head and siren.
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>>10938828
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>>10938723
The chest lets the whole thing down. If the tits were higher and had some sort of central panel to hide the neck hole it would work so much better. The rest of the figure just works.
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It'll never happen, but I want a new deluxe Scavenger. He was one of my favourites as a kid, even though nothing tabs together and the ball-joints immediately became floppy so neither mode holds together any more.
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>>10938917
I want the original, but I'm in Yurop and I don't really wanna pay $30+ for him...
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BARF
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>>10938957
Ouch.
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>>10938545
He looks so good, and I'm super jealous of all the people who already have theirs. I just gotta wait another two weeks for mine. It's insane that this is a Siege Starscream retool, albeit only sharing like, a shoulder and elbow joint as far as I know. I really hope they let the designer of this take the reigns on the other cybertron figs and any other future UT stuff
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>>10938917
I'm totally woth you, I loved this guy so much. Like who doesnt want a transforming Truckasaurus? With Minigun and Missile launcher, at that
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Higher res MPG-09 solicitation with accessories

>>10938957
This is actually hideous, what were they thinking
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>>10938978
And regular MP-60
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>>10938978
>>10938980
>This is actually hideous, what were they thinking
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>>10938748
No he meant Grapple because the "the animation error took the spot of green grapple" is referring to Hauler.

Though you're right, Hoist would make more sense but I guess Hasbro wanted to use a newer mold..
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>>10938626
>Voyager sized extended semi where the cab becomes the chest and the limbs fold out from the trailer and utility equipment end up on it's back
A pickup isn't even the right class of vehicle not to mention the mad Max styling and the completely wrong robot mode. It's like making BW Megs a Dinobot repaint.
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>>10938085
>>10938135
cope
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>>10938957
I am so sick of what alt modes have become. I hate it here.
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>>10938978
>>10938980
So it's supposed to look like cheap garbage? Is that the gimmick, or...?
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>>10938978
>>10938980
So the difference between toy and animation is the eyes, a few stickers on the knees and elbows and maybe different silvers for the crotch and thighs?
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>>10937914
Lack of focus to other bits besides Prime and Bumblebee.
I suppose the last movie gave us Mirage.

I know the movies want to focus on the humans, but damn, it’s like a TMNT movie only focusing on April and CaseybKones with the occasional ninja turtle thrown in.
We never get the bots perspective on things or an arc. Or real team dynamics outside of the 2007 film.

Then there’s the constant retcons and worst of the all, every movie is a race to a MacGuffin device (except Bumblebee).
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>>10938980
>>10938978
Wow! These do NOT look good, at all! With ever new release, the Masterpiece name comes closer to a slur.
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>>10939006
I get what you're saying but they just don't look alike at all, other than being long.
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>>10938179
I feel like the upgrade kit doesn't do enough to save it for me, especially considering the kit costs about the same as the figure itself.
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Can't wait to see how they fuck up sky-byte
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>>10938653
>>10938957
Exactly what I expected, was hoping they'd at least remold the front of the car but didn't get my hopes up. It sucks, but I'm probably gonna get it anyway since I'm a retard. I am gonna try and get an original too though.
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>>10939022
I feel like the MPG line is being designed by different people than the other lines. That's the only excuse I can think of. I think this release looks cool, but not for the price.
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>>10939029
Yeah he honestly looks better than I thought he would, but the lack of paint apps or outlines on the flames or painted on lights kind of sucks. I'll probably get him to go with Omega. I liked Shadowstriker, but she is a mess of stress marks now. The clearances and transformation on this mold is weird. Like, some of the transformation seems aware of the complexities of tolerances and clearance, but the other half make it feel like you're trying to break the figure just to get it tucked in correctly. Hope some of it is fixed with this mold.
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>>10939034
The trainbots were designed to accommodate train autists by making them HO scale and near perfect replicas of the actual train models.

MP-60 and MPG-09 Ginrai are the same normal masterpiece line, Super Ginrai just put in MPG since it's for combiners. I think it's just weird anime design choices this time.
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>>10938653
Would get him if Omega Prime wasn't a Haslab. Also, what happened to Armada Thrust?
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>>10938653
>tiny girl shoulders
>engine barely sticks out
>all chest and pelvis, zero waist
>massive head making him look like a kid
>arms blatantly the wrong color
How did they fuck up this badly? They took a bot with heroic, super-robot proportions and made it look like a child with a pillow stuffed up his shirt. The only way anyone could see this as an improvement is if they didn't like the character in the first place.
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>>10939042
There was never an Armada Thrust, they said right away his presence on that box was just the artist having fun.
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>>10939044
>The only way anyone could see this as an improvement is if they didn't like the character in the first place.
Yeah, Morgan sucks designers so much it's almost funny. I love how retards squirm trying to protect this "update".
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>>10938957
So glad we sacrificed our chance at a good Shadow Striker for this
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>>10939038
I liked shadowstriker well enough, throygh the power of no expectation. I do fully admit the mold kinda sucks ass though. Mine luckily seems stress-mark free, but one of the knee tabs did snap off right out of the box. It affects literally nothing so I wasn't too bothered
It's nice to see speedbreaker get a dedicated mold, but i hope if they plan on doing the other car robo brothers, that they at least suck less than him
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Anybody know where the preorders are? I thought they were going up today.
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>>10939075
1PM EST
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>>10939083
Ah okay, I thought it was 12 midnight. Thanks.

Does that include Amazon? I usually preorder my figures from them
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>all the shills on tfw having a meltdown over people not liking side burn
lmao
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>>10939091
I see people just arguing as per usual, no side is a winner here. I think you probably just got told to shut the fuck up and now you're posting about it here. Get a social life, this is sad.
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>>10939097
this
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>>10938957
That's just sad. Even the flame decals are half-assed.
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>>10939091
He is a solid C-range guy if you want a blue robot with that head to stand next to Omega Prime.
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>>10939097
>no side is a winner here
lmao someone’s upset that no one likes his shitty toy
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>Netflix/Earthrise Bumblebee sucked
>Kingdom Cheetor sucked
>every SS Movie Bumblebee besides apparently RotB sucked
>Legacy Armada Hot Shot sucked
>Legacy Animated Bumblebee sucked
>SSGE WfC Bumblebee sucked
>Legacy Speed Breaker sucks
The only kid-appeal character they got remotely right as a modern toy was the Core Tasmania Kid, and supposedly the upcoming GF Hot Shot (who was designed entirely by Takara). Was Tasmania Kid primarily by a Japanese designer too? I can't tell since TFWiki cites both Hasbro and Takara dudes for his toy.
Anyway, do you think Hasbro is doing this on purpose? Because so many of these have no reason to be as bad as they are, they're just arbitrarily compromised for no reason or were extremely lazy.
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>>10939132
ORIGINS BUMBLEBEE SWEEP
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>>10939134
A CHALLENGER APPROACHES
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>>10938978
I'm glad it doesn't look like some complex mess, but that price tag is insanity.
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>>10939152
Depends on how big it is, I guess
If he's the same size as, like, MP Jetfire then that's near justified
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>>10939132
Results are rather random, so I don't think it is intentional, just the results of bad decision making in individuals.
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Found AOE Galvatron at the thrift store, brand new for $4. This has to be the best four bucks I ever spent. Far from a perfect figure but his transformation is more fun than it has any right being. He must be the coolest/best shellformer of all time
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Did you get your boxy boy, /tfg/?
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>>10939173
No. I'm waiting for the Exhaust version.
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>>10939173
Yeh, he's pretty neat.
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>>10939173
yeah, still not quite sure what I think of him.
He starts out actually transforming like he should in the show, and then.. it goes sideways. I'm guessing because they had to scale him to fit bumblebee in
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>>10938653
Why isn't his eye red?
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>>10939205
Might be under bad lighting.
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>>10939173
Can't find him
too expensive on ebau
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>>10938915
I think the chest needs to be like 2mm higher, but her neck needs to be a solid centimeter lower.
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>>10938917
ooh, vehicles with mouths. come on mattel bring back Attack Packs
I like this transformation at least. quite unique.
>>10938957
looks good to me.
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>>10939196
>swoop is already sold out on pulse
wew

can’t wait for retards to not pre-order it and then proceed to bitch when they inevitably can’t find it at the store
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>>10939223
The chest at least is because of a misassembly.
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>>10939025
upgrade kit felt expensive but it wasn't more than.. what.. 25 bucks?
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>>10939123
I think he's fine. Nothing more, nothing less. Seek therapy.
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>>10939232
>I think he's fine
no, it's bad
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>>10939225
Just preordered on Amazon. He's still up last I checked.
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>>10938957
They did my Boy Sideburn dirty, God Fucking Damn it man... );
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>>10939242
Even ignoring the whole vehicle itself being a mistake, it feels weird how they did the flames and didn't paint the headlights.
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>>10939225
Already unavailable on Amazon too. At this rate it will be sold out everywhere by tomorrow.
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>>10939225
You shouldn't have to preorder toys manufactured for mass retail out of fear of never seeing it
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>>10939252
Man, Amazon must be buying a fraction of what they normally get, many figures have sold out way too quickly. Gears hasn't come back up since it sold out weeks ago. I didn't even get the chance to order one.
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>>10939227
The only place I looked had it like double that much.
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>>10939225
I showed up about 10 minutes too late for Pulse and, apparently, Amazon, but found him on BBTS just fine. He's not an exclusive, so there's plenty of other places to nab him from if you missed the window.
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>>10939278
oh well yeah it's super out of print now. sorry, forgot to take that into account
hell by the time I got mine, which took ages, they couldn't give me a replacement for the part was missing for like 15 months, because they didn't have any more.
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>>10939227
That's how much I paid for him
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Chances of a ROTB Scourge repack?
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>>10939308
Get Baiwei, more accurate, clear plastic inserts and is cheaper.
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>Swoop uses the Battle for Autobot City background instead of the Quintesson Trial one
Not that anyone even cares about the backgrounds but I just thought that was neat.
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I see people keep hoping the 2025 Titan class is animated Omega Supreme or updated G1 Metroplex.

Guys we just had Cybertron Metroplex in 2023. And we just had the G1 Omega Supreme in 2019 and The Ark in 2021.

Those two aren’t going to happen until at least 2028.
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>>10939309
nta, but I unironically prefer the "inaccurate" design. Makes him look like some kind of undead truck samurai
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>>10939309
>Baiwei
Its not even out yet. Reee. Does look pretty good tho.


>get new Sunstreaker and Sideswipe
They obviously paired the “Lambros” together intentionally, but the disparities between the two are astronomical. Sideswipe feels ick af. These gamer series are pretty obviously shelved designs from clear back when the game was new. Thats the only explanation for how outdated everything about them. Even the plastic feels like old FOC figures when they cheaped out on everything. Also, aesthetically, Sideswipe just barely barely fits with the BB cybertronians. Barely. In car mode. In robot mode not really at all. He is way more of a G1 cybertronian look…but they threw his ass into this wave bc they knew simps like me would buy him anyway
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>>10939334
I bet on Primus, you know whole line of Primes, new Unicron could also work.

>>10939335
Also works as concept edition. I considered selliing mine but after all I might keep him.
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>>10939350
Old megatron was good, new one isn't. I just think they run on what's left of budget or are this retarded at designing. Which might be true based on their posts on instagram.
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https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/150271?o=1
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>>10939356
The thing with Unicron, doesn’t Hasbro have to trademark him every 6 years? We had one in 2021 HasLab.

If so, then can we expect a Gen Prime Unicron as the 2027 Titan class?
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>>10939371
Core class to hold the name another 7 years
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>>10939371
Just do a Voyager GF Unicron.
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>>10939306
whoa! you got him nicely discounted
well 50 total sounds pretty good to me for a completed leader class.
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>>10938917
>>10938928
>>10938976
>>10939224
Scavenger is awesome. he's got such a cool design, and it's close enough that you can assume he's the same guy as the ol' G1 Constructicon stuffed into a Vehicon shell.
Actually, pretty much all of the Beast Machines guys are good toys that hold up today - at least, the ones that didn't compromise their transformations to look like show characters. Toy version Tankor, for example, looks nothing like his show version, but is infinitely more fun than the more accurate versions that came out later.
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>>10939377
I don't think that Unicron even came out in GF. It was in 2010 Japan got it, wasn't it?
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>>10939377
The Ark/crab looking one?
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>>10939411
that is such an appropriate design for unicron
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>>10939411
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>>10939416
I still can't believe they never retooled this into Bludgeon.
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I have a big feeling that come the 3rd year of this new 13 Primes trilogy, that in the third year we’ll get a new Sideways.

1st year main villain (The Fallen confirmed)
2nd year main villain (Liege Maximo)
3rd year main villain (Unicron w/Sideways)
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>>10938653
>Still didn't fix the front of Vehicle
They're not even trying. Fuck any drone buying this slop version
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>>10933391
These guys arrived fast, holy shit
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>>10939425
the wingtip things don't even plug in to look like they're shooting out of guns?
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>>10939430
You mean silverbolt’s? I’ve got those already pegged into the ends of his wings, if that’s what you mean, and you can direct them forward if you want as well.
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>>10936860 (me)
I didn't end up getting any of them, I'll get Chase later, maybe
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>>10939442
no I mean, you can see the peg that plugs into the hand, just hanging out. Meaning the handles just... plug ONTO the front of the wings?
whereas in the original, and on the show, the feathers slot into a hole, which looks a lot more natural.
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>>10939453
see
there was no reason not to make the hole 5mm and have the whole shaft fit into it. then he could choke up on the handheld blades
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>>10939457
>>10939453
Oh, I see what you mean now. Yeah, it’s a bit weird to me that they didn’t design a sheath or anything for it on his wings. I’m still a bit iffy on him, but at the same time, I just got him, so I may need to fiddle with him more before I dig him.
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>>10939453
Yeah those giant fucking triggers sticking out of the wings look a lot more natural than being really close and uniform with the edge of the new wings you're totally right that is totally natural.

I swear to god you ruin this hobby for people with actual criticisms with your blind nostalgia stuff.
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>>10938957
Surprising lack of remolding for a "main" character.
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>>10938653
My boy mach alert better look better than this if they ever end up doing him
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>10939479
i find it very, very hard to believe this isn't a troll post, but just in case some small child is watching:
i wasn't suggesting adding the triggers. only a retard would think I was.
Plugging into the wings looks more natural than plugging ONTO the wings and leaving the entire cylinder visible. it's also much more stable.
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>>10939481
Yeah as much as I don't have a problem with him, they really dropped the ball on alt mode paint. This edit does look better.
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>>10939490
agreed. i thought he looked fine before, but this edit is a huge improvement.
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>>10939479
He never said he wants the triggers back.

Nonethess that's one of the lesser problems of the new Silverbolt. The whole revamped transformation is what hurts it the most when they only needed to get rid of the wing gimmick so they can move into the back and better articulation. But they changed everything just so it can have a waist joint and it really isn't worth it because they missed what made the transformation good.

Also the beast mode sculp is ass compared to the original.
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>>10939492
While I love the new Silverbolt, I agree they made some weird decisions on him. I don't mind the new transformation so much but the fact that they added a waist swivel and then basically ignored his shitty ankles really pisses me off. Like you could bend his knees and it'd look natural if he had forward ankle tilt, but they bafflingly left that out.
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>>10939492
well I like the new shoulders better than the old ones. That's about the only improvement I can see.
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>>10938653
utter crap compared to original
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>Swoop and Scarr in pile of loot from the other day
>email about Core Snarl processing soon
Now we're getting somewhere
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>>10939173
He's okay. I like the altmode more than botmode, but the transformation feels bad, pretty typical of panelformers. I wish the front bumper held together more tightly at the top.
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>>10939627
Mostly same sentiment here
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>>10939627
I like his little windshield protector
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Since I recently got G1 Bee, Grapple, and Hoist I figured I should update the display
Positions not final. I'm thinking I should move Prowl back up and Inferno and Tracks down
Separate seasons 1 and 2, y'know?
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>>10939643
You don't have another shelf level for Hot Rod, so don't do that.
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>>10939644
Hot Rod can slum it with the season two rabble
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>>10939646
Makes sense. Arcee doesn't have a G1 toy so she isn't allowed on a shelf, so only Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus would be there.
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>>10939656
I have MP Magnus, just no G1 version to go with it
Same goes for Bluestreak, Smokescreen, Read Alert, Wheeljack, Ironhide, and Ratchet
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>>10939643
>using the alternate chest on Inferno
Watch out man you might trigger our resident shitposter.
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>>10939656
use her Heroes of Cybertron figure
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>>10939642
I am terrified to take it apart to arrange it into the wings/forcefields. I have always been very careful with translucent plastic, haven't broken anything before, but it really feels like it will break if I use enough force to separate the parts.
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>>10938957
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Yuck
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>>10939674
Imagine being Hound. Only a bit taller than Bumblebee.
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>>10939674
You make it sound like we've only got the one
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>>10939678
I was too. I eventually tried it, cautiously wiggling them apart.
Don't know why they didn't pack them apart
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>>10939383
It still astounds me how much better the BM toys look compared to the show designs. I do not know what the character designer for Mainframe was thinking.
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>>10939678
Oh, well, I got them apart accidentally. They come apart easily when folded 90° to each other.
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>>10939691
It was said to be made by something called Draxhall Jump and different people did the robot and vehicle/beast modes.
I disagree about Jetstorm through. The show version is way more attractive than the toy version.
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>>10939383
I got BM Sky Dive not too long ago
And he does a lot of transforming for a toy with no new details or features between his two modes
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