>We have taken steps to resolve affected products as we move forward with new products that have been in development, and have exciting news starting with Earthworm Jim...

>FREE EVIL JIM FOR DNA PRE-ORDER CUSTOMERS / INTERPLAY RENEWAL

>Our partners at Interplay have been supportive in helping us protect our contractual rights, and their ownership rights, in China. We are excited to announce that they have allowed us to offer our new Evil Jim figure free of charge to anyone who pre-ordered any of the Earthworm Jim Wave 1 products directly from Premium DNA.

>*** If you ordered any of wave 1 through us directly, Evil Jim will be automatically included as part of your order free of charge ***

>Evil Jim will also be made available to order directly through Premium DNA, as well as our retail and distribution partners.

>PLEASE NOTE: The only official release of Earthworm Jim Wave 1 into the market is the Toycollectr Exclusive Jim, which was manufactured first and passed QC inspection. The others did not meet our standards.

>There will be many noticeable fixes to the figures’ plastics, deco, articulation, and scaling. Each figure will also include a stand, as advertised originally. The packaging will have tamper proof demarcation to verify authenticity.

>PREMIUM DNA - INTERPLAY PARTNERSHIP RENEWAL

>We are also pleased to announce we have renewed our license with Interplay for an extended term and will be developing new releases for both Earthworm Jim and Clayfighter.

>WHAT’S NEXT?

>Premium DNA has actively been acquiring new licenses, building new partnerships for global distribution and retail, building our new website, and moving new products through production with reputable long-term factory partners.

>We will begin revealing the first properties and releases in the coming weeks as we embark on a long term plan that celebrates the past, present and future of video game properties and related IP. Many of these programs and products have been in development for years, and we are thrilled to start sharing them.

>An important conclusion we have made from dealing with the realities of international manufacturing, and as collectors ourselves, is that the collectibles industry has relied too heavily on long pre-order windows and wait times. This has often made for a poor customer experience and an impediment to collecting. To address this issue, we have changed our release and production strategy to prioritize in-stock drops and short, partner-driven pre-order windows.

>Our pre-order windows will only be as long as is necessary for our retail and wholesale partners to compile their orders. These pre-orders will be strictly for products near completion. There may be occasional exceptions for specialty items (i.e. vehicles and playsets), but these are limited.

>Short waits, fast deliveries, and the best collectibles in your hand. That is our renewed commitment. We hope others will follow suit and elevate our industry as a whole, with renewed focus on the experience of the fans that make it possible for us to do this amazing work.

No update on any other figures like Madballs. There hasn't been any update since then, they deleted their Twitter account and their Facebook and Instagram pages have all been scrubbed and now each just have a single post containing this information.

>>11621697
I didnt read any of that. We learned to never order directly from them, not even for some useless recolor

Anybody who gives them money at this point will get (or more accurately NOT get) what they deserve. I have more faith in the Amico teamthan these guys.

I honestly hope the come through, cuz the EWJ figures I got from Ali are great. I'd love a second series.

EWJ deserves better than these faggots. Even the bootleg I bought direct from chona showed up broken.

And fuck them for never making the 3rd Battletoad. If you're a fly-by-night company with more failures than successes, then put the main characters in wave 1.

I got a Jim off aliexpress and while it was a piece of shit I believe none of this.

I ordered off BBTS so I never had any money at risk but there’s about a 90% chance they just bought all the aliexpress Jims themselves and will ship those to US vendors.

I wonder if their Mars Attacks figures will actually happen. I already went ahead and got the Super7 version. Seems hard to pull the trigger on a render.

>>11621697
So i paid a couple hundred for Mars Attacks products a few years back will they actually fulfill this or scammed?
I see some of the people work for the company still

were people really clamoring for clayfighter figures

>>11621768
Enjoy waiting 10 more years for the second wave to be available off Aliexpress.

>>11621945
I am for real
Honestlly got the Jim figs off Ali last year and they are pretty great actually. no issues with mine.
so I'd be stoked for some clay fighter figures

>>11621958
I would also buy some Clayfighter figures (from a reputable company) if they were the right scale to battle my MK and SF guys. I had that game as a kid and despite all it's flaw, it did have some good wacky character designs.

Anyone who believes their bullshit deserves to lose their money.

>>11621983
Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the positive posting was actual employees

>>11621697
>Playmates line suffered from the company's "release a toyline/show off prototypes for future figures/cancel line immediately afterwards" policy they've had ever since the early 90s.
>3D killed the series.
>Doug Tennapel pissed libtards off by not keeping his mouth shut.
>Any time it seems there's going to be a new EWJ project it gets immediately canned.
>Highly articulated figures from a scam company with the figures having been snuck onto Aliexpress at MUCH lower prices.
Why is this franchise so cursed? Even fucking Bubsy has been getting new games.

>>11621697
If IF they actually release the wave and everyone gets a free Evil Jim that's cool but there's no way people are ordering directly from them again... okay well some idiots will but most people won't be doing that again.

>>11621986
I've seen damage control posts here in the past when I've warned anons of their previous lies and scammery that happened during the Megalopolis shitstorm. I couldn't tell if it was PDNA doing damage control or one of their nut huggers, but it makes no difference.
I'll believe their PR bullshit when people actually have the figures they paid for in their hands, and not a second sooner. They've got a long way to go to repair their reputation, and their full year of silence with their website in "under construction" limbo hasn't done them any favors.
Until then, these are just more of their empty promises.

This their excuse for ghosting their paying customers entirely for over a year:
>In order to protect the investigative measures in China, the privacy of other companies being affected by infringing activities of this supplier, and the rights of our IP holder partners, we were prohibited from providing updates to the public until reaching a resolution.

Does anyone buy that? Completely ridiculous.

>>11622098
>>11622072
>>11622063
Did they do megalopolis (forma de clube) stuff?

>>11622098
Right, Megalopolis ppl are probably the only ones saying nice things and defending the companies, past and present. So many people got burned when they were Megalopolis, then PDNA with all those pre orders that never materialized, and now this recent fiasco with them going silent and factories apparently dumping Earthwork Jim stock online since they were allegedly not paid.

>>11622063
>>11622072
To me it seems like they didn't intentionally try to screw people this time, but they're also not telling us the full story. Clearly something happened with those factories and what we're getting is a highly sanitized version. I think their incompetence led them to mishandle the situation, they got in over their heads, panicked, and it snowballed into a clusterfuck as they kept trying to stall while having no idea what to do next.

I think the bigger problem is that their stalling just made things worse. They're already on shaky ground due to the Megalopolis shit and then they just went silent for a year and a half with no explanation, no update. Even if they weren't just trying to run away with people's money again, they should at least be aware that people aren't going to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. They didn't need to give us the full details if there were actual legal proceedings, but even just saying "we are currently involved in legal proceedings with the factory, we're not able to comment further" would've been not only acceptable but perfectly legal. I can't think of any scenario where they would've been advised to just shut up and not say anything to anyone, just straight up pretend they don't exist anymore.

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>>11621697
Crappy recolor, this better be just a mockup and not the final figure. The suit should have more distinct differences from Jim's, like triangular collar, pointy toes and loose gloves that aren't flush with the main suit.

>>11622098
Remember when that retard Anthonycumstains was defending them? What a joke.

I'm honestly willing to mostly believe their story that a sub-factory started churning out a bunch of these and it took them a while to get it under control. What I'm not willing to believe is that they were told not to say a single thing about this. That's the biggest problem here, no communication whatsoever and not even an apology. Did it really not occur to them that going this long without SOME comment was going to make their customers think they'd run off with their money?

>>11622163
They gave themselves the appearance of a defunct company that had ghosted everyone. Silent on social media, no communication to customers about other lines they had paid for upfront, and the website upgrade being stalled for that time were all giant red flags. All they had to say is that they were looking at producing future figures at a new factory, but due to legal reasons they cant disclose any more information for now.
The biggest problem is that they lied to their customers repeatedly during the whole Megalopolis debacle, and lied to Anthony's Customs about what went down with Megalopolis. Nobody in their right mind should take anything they say at face value

So what DID actually happen? Speculation used to be that they either couldn't pay or didn't want to pay the factory, who then turned around and dumped them all on AliExpress. Premium DNA had made it seem like the entire batch was dull of duds but the AE figures have been mostly okay, a few QC issues here and there, but nothing to make it seem like the entire batch was defective.

>>11623269
It's almost always a money issue.
Factory probably underquoted to win the bid on producing the toys and then produced complete shit. They then asked for another payment to "do it right" and PDNA refused to pay twice.

Such tactics aren't uncommon when dealing with China, especially if you're a tiny company with no strong ties to a bigger one.

>>11622163
>>11622643
>>11623382
Why the fuck are you guys giving them the benefit of the doubt after all the shit they've pulled over the years??? They're run by scummy scammers. They will always fuck someone over in the end.

Factories require partial payment upfront before stuff starts, and then the remainder of the payment once stuff is ready to be shipped out. Obviously they ran into money problems again (shocker!) and couldn't pay the factory. After sitting on the finished product for weeks or months with no payment from PDNA, the the factory started selling the finished figures on their own. That's the most likely scenario.

>>11623269
>>11623382
It sounds to me like PDNA's original excuse about the shipment having issues is probably accurate. It also seems like the factory not only resold that shipment but just started churning out more without authorization which is why Ali Express was absolutely flooded with them. It had to have been pretty bad if they had to get a legal firm and Interplay themselves involved, and I don't doubt that they are involved because if PDNA was just making that part up they'd open themselves up to having East IP and Interplay both come after them for making shit up about them.

I think that the only way we're going to be able to tell just what was wrong with the original shipment is if/when the officially authorized ones come out. I noticed the statement mentioned scale as one of the issues and I'm wondering if some of the figures were made at the wrong scale. One of the things I noticed when I got my figures from Ali Express was how fucking huge Professor MFAH is, even without the monkey he towers over Jim. Psy-crow's also pretty big in comparison when he's usually depicted as being about the same height at Jim.

>>11621697
Shitty company history aside, fuck the scummy Chinese factories. Yeah people get cheaper figures as a one off but in the long term companies will just give up making smaller IP or go under and the hobby will be worse off for it. It's not the kind of competition that drives innovation.

>>11623414
I think people are seeing this scenario a little differently because it really did look like they were going to run away with people's money again, but this time they actually said something and it isn't just a plea for more money. It's all in very PR-friendly terms, there's no apology for how they handled this, and as everyone else has point out they went a long ass time without a word to anyone, but if they'd just wanted to do another rugpull they could've just run off without saying anything. For whatever reason they felt compelled to make a statement, it doesn't answer enough questions and still raises doubts about their trustworthiness but it's a statement at least.

That said even if they do make good and ship out the stuff I don't think anyone in this thread is going to order directly from them again.

>>11623479
deluded chinese hands wrote this

>>11623414
>Why the fuck are you guys giving them the benefit of the doubt after all the shit they've pulled over the years
because it's far more common for China to fuck over toy makers and many other industries, and this sounds like one of those Chinese tricks.

>>11623434
>I think people are seeing this scenario a little differently because it really did look like they were going to run away with people's money again
This is the reason why China being China is what likely happened and not PDNA trying to scam people.
They invested in the most expensive part of toy making, fronting a huge chunk money to get molds made and figures mass produced, but people want to believe they THEN ran away with the loose change that was left over? completely retarded.
If you're looking to scam someone, you KEEP the vast majority of the money from the very start. To make it look like you're doing actual work, you use a shitty mold, that's only meant to last a couple hundred presses and every single figure looks like shit.

Considering the left overs the factory sold are said to be fine, it points toward PDNA trying to be a long term toy company. The fact that they even are trying to send out free figures to make up for the delay proves that.
Have they even asked for money since they ran into their problem? Actual scam companies would milk even more money from their customers.

Of course, this is assuming they're actually being honest in their announcement. They can be sued for slander if it's made up shit and because they have no intention of actually making good on any of their promises, they'd lose little to no money because their company is done... .......but why even make public announcements then? Because what they wrote is what happened.

>>11623506
>They invested in the most expensive part of toy making
With money stolen from Megalopolis customers. Never forget that.

>>11623479
>it does because China gets more money and get to make new original things
China mostly makes things that "totally aren't from this IP because we changed the name" and that's about it. Sorry, I forgot the dozens of Three Kingdoms and Journey to the West figures, because those are the only two stories written by Chinese that Chinese people actually care about.

>>11623479
>it does because China gets more money and get to make new original things
the only place that money is going is to some gourmet dog meat noodle soup restaurant.
any time unwanted inferior goods are produced, it's a pointless waste of human effort that adds a cost to something else somewhere down the line.

>>11623479
>>11623521
>>11623531
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>>11623422
Every other company seems capable of navigating Chinese manufacturing without ripping off customers and then ghosting them. Regardless of what happened in China, the lack of any communication is totally unacceptable. When you add in the fact that these people have pulled scams before, it's impossible to take them at their word here.

>>11623994
Nice try, shill. Fuck China in the ass. I have no love for China. It doesn't make your company look any better.

>>11623789
I accept you concession Xiao Shin, American designed toy of a American franchise because the Chinese are incapable of making anything themselves.
I'm glad you agree with me.

Trying to devolve the conversation into China vs. America just reeks of desperation from a company that's already dead and doesn't realize it. Real Tommy Tallarico energy.

>>11624049
It's one of the shills from the Warhammer thread. Now that it's dead, he's been shitposting in pretty much every active thread and he got really riled up last week after a bunch of his posts disappeared.

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What does the lawsuit against the Earth Worm Jim manufacturer have to do with the Madballs Wave 2 release? Why can't PDNA fulfill the other orders on other IPs?

>>11624469
probably because they'er using the same factory.

If one thing gets fucked by the factory, everything else is going to be put on hold.

Theoretically, they could switch factories, but they probably already gave that factory their money for the Madballs too.

>>11624469
>>11624514
Odd that we didn't see a bunch of these show up on Ali Express. I'm guessing they hadn't even started making them before the whole debacle with the factory happened.

>>11623506
HOLY FUCK. You obviously work for PDNA. The cope is fucking insane. Like the sensible people in here are saying, anyone who gives money direct to PDNA at any point in the future is an idiot and deserves to have it stolen

>>11624469
This. So they finally made a public statement after almost two years of hiding. So what? They still have other open pre orders to fulfill that people paid for ages ago. But they say they're getting new licenses and developing new product right now? Yes, obviously to take pre orders for those to pay for the shit they already promised.

>>11624514
Fuck off PDNA employee

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>>11624693
>have a little bit of knowledge about chinese manufacturing and the problems manufacturers face with china holding your shit hostage
>don't make up retarded theories that don't hold up to basic common sense on ripping people off
>you're literally hitler
Even if i was an employee, they're literally not trying to scam anyone right now... so i don't see the point in trying to say I'm a bad person, other than trying to insult me just because i said how common it is for China to fuck over and cheat their partners.

even the posts that are giving them the benefit of the doubt are still shitting on them for how badly this is being handled and acknowledging that they've scammed before
I don't know what the point of accusing everyone of being a pdna employee is

>>11624705
Why are you acting like this is the first thing this scummy group of people has done??? They fucked over hundreds or thousands of people when they were Megalopolis, literally stealing their money and not delivering any product. They got sued by Entertainment Earth for failure to pay. Then they re-branded as Premium DNA and started the whole company presumably using much of the funds they owed all their past customers. Then they go MIA for almost two years after taking tons of more people's money for pre-orders. Meanwhile, the factory is selling off stock they didn't pay the remaining balance for.

Just because the posted a public statement we should forget all of that and act like all is well? Fuck that. These are professional grifters. Their "production difficulties" claim is just BS. Even if it was true, why go silent for almost 2 years? Nothing they claim makes sense. You are apparently an absolute moron to believe any of it so you do you and shovel more money their way.

>>11624715
I think the better question is why bother making a statement at all

>>11624717
they said it themselves. They said they are going to open new pre orders for new things soon. AKA we ran out of money again and will take in more to pay for things we already promised, then figure out where to get more money from later on

>>11624715
Someone asked what actually happened and I gave the most probable answer: china rips off their partners all the time

This is why PDNA is able to accuse the factory of ripping them off, stating that they won their case, and shit actually going into production again.

The fact that i didn't say anything else is the same reason i don't bring up China abusing their workers or running over their peasants with tanks. What's that got have to do with the question that person asked? Nothing.

So just because i don't accuse China of genociding their country side peasants in all of my posts doesn't mean I'm a Chinese general in charge of putting them into work camps.

>>11624747
see >>11624712

>>11624743
>The company that scammed thousands, was sued by their own distributor, closed down and used the stolen money to develop a new company, then disappeared for two years with product still not delivered is the victim
Holy fuck. You can't be real. The most probable answer is that they were victims themselves and we just have to believe everything they are saying now because they've been soooo honest in the past?

>>11624715
>Then they re-branded as Premium DNA and started the whole company presumably using much of the funds they owed all their past customers
They actually started Premium DNA while Megalopolis was still running. Both companies were subsidiaries of Toy Overlord. That made it very easier to funnel funds from Megalopolis to PDNA.
Allegedly.

>>11624743
>just because i don't accuse China of genociding their country side peasants in all of my posts doesn't mean I'm a Chinese general in charge of putting them into work camps.
What the fuck????? The fact you try looping in genocide and human rights violations just shows you have no way to defends Premium DNA and are just throwing shit around and seeing how the conversation can be changed. We are not falling for the shit, bozo.

>>11624801
>how the conversation can be changed
The conversation was
>So what DID actually happen? Speculation used to be that they either couldn't pay or didn't want to pay the factory
So we can't talk about how it's probably China fucking over their partners, like China usually does, because of PDNA's previous company failing?

this thread begins with PDNA's statement saying that they hadn't been able to talk about it because they were trying to sue the Chinese factory for breaching their contract by producing shitty quality figures and then stealing PDNA's molds to produce unlicensed toys.

IF you want to talk about how PDNA's statement is tortful and total lies about the Chinese factory and how the chinese factory should totally sue them, that would be on topic, but instead, you want to make the thread about denying the Chinese government's crimes against their own citizens and how the Chinese elites want to genocide their minorities to take their land.
Completely shameful, General Tso's Chicken.

>>11624829
Fuck off. You obviously work for them.

>>11625215
It might be a lonely loser fishing for (you)s. I'd be surprised if PDNA has any actual employees at this point. When's the last time they made a toy or provided any customer support?

>>11625215
You're a nutjob

>>11625220
The only person looking for (You)s was the guy who just got 30 posts deleted in this thread alone, who is probably you and the post above you on another IP address, because it's clear from the rest of his posts being deleted on /toy/ that he wasn't above samefagging to shitpost.

Sorry if you hate for conversations to actually be ontopic, which is PDNA revealing it was actually a Chinese factory trying to fuck them over, because that's how Chinese factories usually try to scam their partners over, and that's why their Earthworm Jim figure got delayed.

>>11625388
Fuck off. Nobody is falling for your bullshit. Gonna randomly bring up China genocide and slave labor to deflect from the real issue of PDNA being scammers again?

>>11625389
>Gonna randomly bring up China genocide and slave labor to deflect from the real issue of PDNA being scammers again?
You sound like such an undernourished third worlder you don't realize how retarded you are.

The point about me bringing up China driving tanks over their city peasants and genociding their country side peasants is because it's as relevant as you bringing up PDNA's failed toy store not shipping out all their Marvel Legends and Transformers because they ran out of stock.

Like i said, if PDNA were trying to scam people, they wouldn't have made a press release stating that the Chinese factory ripped them off. They wouldn't be bringing up Interplay working with them to force the Chinese factory to comply with their contracts.
By making any of these statements and any of them being false, they'd get sued really fast.

Since you'er a third worlder who doesn't simple concepts like fraud, the whole point of scamming someone is to make money. They're not making any money if they paid a factory to produce toys and not releasing anything. They're not making any money getting sued for making tortful (lies) press releases like what's in OP. The legal troubles from this is worse than their previous business gonig bankrupt.

So it's safe to say that PDNA's statements are true and they're not trying to scam anyone, because actual scams or companies run by retards fall apart before anything is even produced.
And no, China scamming their partners doesn't count toward this falling apart, because that's just China being China. It's fucking routine at this point, because how many times have we seen Kickstarters suffer delays due to Chinese trickery? Or even indie toy makers like 4 Horsemen?

>>11625220
>It might be a lonely loser fishing for (you)s
I have a theory on who it is, and you'd be right. This post here >>11624378 should be the biggest clue.

>>11625428
>it's as relevant as you bringing up PDNA's failed toy store not shipping out all their Marvel Legends and Transformers because they ran out of stock.
That isn't what happened. They kept advertising stock as shipping now which they never actually had. They were taking money for items they had no intention of ever shipping. They were selling the Brooklyn Bridge.
>Since you'er a third worlder who doesn't simple concepts like fraud
NTA, but apparently you don't either. The fucks that run Premium DNA gave sob stories where the truth was mixed in with a whole heap of bullshit back when they ran Megalopolis. Apparently you are dumb enough to fall for their latest confidence trick and swallow their bullshit wholesale.
China is shifty and factories are known to scam their customers.
The Westover brothers are also shifty and are known to scam their customers.
One party being a scammer doesn't preclude the other from being a scammer.
But hey, if you are so confident about Premium DNA being above board, feel free to make a preorder on their website that has been in the process of being "revamped soon" for 18 months.
https://premiumdnatoys.com/
Remember to pay up front. Put your money where your mouth is.

>>11625467
>if you don't talk about China's past of supressing citizens voice with their miiltary in every single post you make then you're a chinese elite and you want China to conitnue genociding their citizens
This is what you sound like.

Yeah, PDNA's owners did something scummy in the past, but they're trying to make good on their current business and trying to explain why shit happened.

It's fine that you don't trust them due to their past, but currently they've done nothing wrong and their post detailing their legal problems with their Chinese factory sounds legit.

If you want to not sound like a crazy schizo and actually be on topic, why not try and get the Chinese factory's side of the story? Or find out if they're lying about Interplay helping them?

>>11625489
>This is what you sound like.
That's because you have jumped to a bunch of conclusions thanks to your schizo logic. Your bizarre greentext bullshit isn't even remotely implied in my post.
All I am saying is that just because Chinese factories are known to do really shifty shit doesn't mean you should automatically believe everything that PDNA claim, because they also have a history of fudging the truth and being shifty fuckers.
Considering you don't even know what happened with Megalopolis and think their issue was "not shipping out all their Marvel Legends and Transformers because they ran out of stock" you are less than qualified to comment on any of this.
>their post detailing their legal problems with their Chinese factory sounds legit.
Sounds. That's what the Westovers do. They make excuses that SOUND legit.
>We can't ship because of Covid.
>We can't ship because of a grassfire near our warehouse
>We did ship your order, trust me bro
All legit sounding excuses they made while advertising items as being in stock that they didn't actually have, but they gladly accepted payments for.
>why not try and get the Chinese factory's side of the story?
How the fuck am I going to find out which factory it was? Ask PDNA? They wouldn't even answer when people asked where the figures they had paid for are for the last year.
And all of their "we couldn't talk about it because our lawyers advised us" shit still doesn't explain why their website has been under construction for 18 months. I guess the Chinese factory was also their IT guy.

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>>11621921
Those are still available for pre-order on BBTS.

>>11625565
>retard doesn't understand analogies
holy fuck. Or am i talking to a third worlder who couldn't get an education?
The analogy is apt, because China did fucked up shit in the past, just like PDNA did.

The analogy works because NONE of that is actually relevant to the current thing, because we know from PDNA that China was releasing toys without a license (self evident from the Earthworm Jim toys being sold), the fact that PNDA is starting production again (the factory has to be working with PDNA again in order for this to be happening due to lawsuit threats), and Interplay being involved to force the factory to comply (lawsuit threat from releasing toys without a license).

>How the fuck am I going to find out which factory it was?
That's exactly my point, retard. You bring up shit that happened in the past that has nothing to do with the current thing, because you're a schizo with an axe to grind. You want to deflect from the actual issues on hand, which is exactly like bringing up China killing thousands of student protestors because the Chinese government was shit.

>>11625593
>Or am i talking to a third worlder who couldn't get an education
No, you aren't talking to yourself Subby.
>NONE of that is actually relevant to the current thing
The Westovers' past dishonesty is directly relevant to whether anything they say should be taken at face value. Your opinion on this is irrelevant since you seem to think Megalopolis only failed to ship product because they ran out of stock. This disqualifies you from entering the discussion.
Do you fucking hear me? YOUR OPINION ON THIS MATTER IS IRRELEVANT.
Shut the fuck up and stop making excuses for a bunch of scammers just because you are paranoid about Chinese shills, you fucking retard.

>>11625601
>if you don't talk about China's governement using its military to squash its cititizen's dissent in every single post, then your opinion is irrelevant!
You third worlders continue proving you're just here to shitpost.
If you were able to understanding shit beyond an 6th grader's literacy level, maybe you wouldn't sound like a schizo.

>>11625622
The thing is that China's human rights abuses have nothing to do with a toy factory doing black market production runs with the molds of a company that contracted them.
Whereas the Westovers repeatedly lying about how they run a toy business is directly relevant to whether we should believe any statement they make about running a toy business.
I know you don't understand this because you have always struggled with the English language, which is why you try to deflect from your own subhuman genetics by calling everyone that points out that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about a third worlder.
You seem to think the Westovers are only guilty of not fulfilling orders, and can't accept that their blatant lying is why people don't trust what they have to say. And because you are an dumb Mexican jizzmopper, you refuse to listen to people that know their history of bullshit, so you need to make false equivalencies to distract from your own ignorance.
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, and that is why your opinion on this matter is irrelevant.

>>11625639
What does PDNA's statement about the Chinese factory fucking over the Earthworm Jim release have anything to with the Megalopolis store?

Bringing up past shit like that is as relevant as bringing up China starving its citizens, because the past isn't relevant toward their shit being delayed.

You have to make up schizo theories, because you can't deny the legitimacy of PDNA's statement about the Chinese factory fucking up or Interplay interceding on their behalf to focus the factory to comply with their contract, so you want to talk about China's past in shooting up hundreds of chinese students for protesting (ATTENTION THIRD WORLDERS: this is called an "analogy" and it shows how insane you sound by bringing up past events that aren't actually relevant toward the current thing).

>>11625651
>What does PDNA's statement about the Chinese factory fucking over the Earthworm Jim release have anything to with the Megalopolis store?
It was spelled out for you in the previous post. Please get some English lessons, Subby. This is embarrassing, even by your standards.

>>11625651
What do you think about pdna's reputation?

This thread is PDNA's doing. Drown out the few rational people pointing out how much of a shitty company full of scammers they are with a ton of junk and gibberish so people don't come in here and see the real reasons nobody in the world should ever trust them again.

Don't fall for it people. Never, ever, ever trust PDNA with any money ever again. Ever.

>>11625651
>man that refuses to buy toys from company that had quality control issues that he experienced doesn't understand why people that have experienced business owner's lies at previous company might not believe statement from same business owner at current company
How dense can you be?

>>11625655
Literally has nothing to do with PDNA's legal statement about the Chinese factory fucking them over, just like China putting a minority groups into prisons for just existing

If you want to say it brings up a NEW problem, because if they're lying, they can be easily sued over it. But what proof do you have for them lying? Nothing, hence you bringing up nonsequitor normal bankruptcy shit that doesn't relate to what's going on with Earthworm Jim.

Because you're such an uneducated third worlder, you have no idea of how schizo you sound.

>>11625663
It's shit, but i can't fault whatever is going on right now to them, because it sounds like the normal headaches of dealing with Chinese factories ripping off their partners.

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>>11625679
>But what proof do you have for them lying?
Apart from their history of lying while they ran Megalopolis?
The fact that they have lied in the past about the EWJ figures is part of it. See pic related.

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>>11625679
Want to see another time they lied directly about the EWJ figures? The check id in the mail!
Ignoring that, lying through omission is still lying, and they definitely haven't told the full story. And given their history of lying and being evasive to get more money out of the suckers that trust them, it definitely should be factored into the equation.
Their statements are just a vague email/social media post that omits the details. Did the factory actual make unauthorised production runs, or just sell the stock from the failed production runs? The statement from East IP uses these as examples without ever accusing the factory of anything specifically other than unauthorised sales. They say they have taken measures to prevent unauthorised production, which isn't the same as accusing the factory of making unauthorised production runs. Preventing unauthorised production could just mean getting the molds back to hand them to the next factory.
The statement from PDNA themselves is even more nebulous, and most of it is focused on PR spin.

But if you want to believe them when they have lied about these figures on at least two separate occasions, go for it. It just lets everyone on the board know that you are a retard that will jump into arguments and defend scammers without knowing all of the facts.

>>11625741
so no proof, thus you bring up China aiding Russia to take over Ukraine?

Again, this is just an analogy, because bringing up megalopois has nothing to do with what's currently going on.

Your pic also doesn't disprove anything. It talks about the factory fucking up the QC, which is known. It also talks about the figures that were sold not having the QC defects, which would make sense.
Whether they sold it under license or not, that was obviously a problem, hence interplay interceding on behalf of PDNA to force the Chinese factory into complying with their contract.

So your image only adds proof to OP's press statement.

>>11625750
>It talks about the factory fucking up the QC, which is known. It also talks about the figures that were sold not having the QC defects, which would make sense.
And yet in the OP statement, they say
>There will be many noticeable fixes to the figures’ plastics, deco, articulation, and scaling.
I guess they like fixing what isn't broken, right?

>>11625755
>everything PDNA said is a lie but i have no proof that they lied, so im going to call you an PDNA employee for calling me a schizo for making up deranged arguments
granted, you're just a third worlder who sucks at english and would fail American 7th grade english, so you only sound schizophrenic.

>>11625755
He's not a Megalopolis employee. It's Subby. He's the kind of retard that Premium DNA rely on. They love people that continue to give them the benefit of the doubt after their years of lying to their customers. If we keep going, we might be able to use reverse psychology to get him to directly preorder from their website.

>>11625673
This is the most ineffective PR management I've ever seen this side of the Israeli government. I've gone from mildly wary of this company to really despising them pretty much 100% because of this thread.

>Why would they release a press statement?
So they can renew the grift lol. Pretty simple stuff. They need money to do it again and if we believe anything they say, they're sitting on a bunch of old stock they can simply get some changes done to said free figure. Appease a portion of the customers who will post it on IG and throw out a new absurd pre-order. Giant Battletoads figures!

since the black and green suit jim was also available on ali, i bet i will see evil jim too there in the future.
earthworm kim with surfing pig when?

>>11626167
To be fair, I got the Battletoads when they were super cheap on bbts, and I have no complaints about the figures themselves.

>>11626167
But people are saying that PDNA is lying, and it isn't China's fault for the Earthworm Jim figure being delayed for so long.

By making a press release statement, talking about Interplay on legally pressuring the Chinese factory to make good on their contract after fucking up the quality control and using the molds without permission and selling the products without a license, they can be sued for way more money than they'll ever generate by grifting.

They already spent majority of their money on making the molds and mass production too.
It doesn't make sense that they'd be scamming anyone, because they're in waaaay too deep. And the amount of preorders they can realistically get at this point is next to nothing, since most people who are willing to preorder would have done so already + distrust for the company.

so at this point, they're just hoping to make their money back after investing so much money and then getting ripped off by the Chinese company.

IF you put any thought into what you're trying to say, you'd realize you sound like a child who has no idea how the real world works.

>>11626284
>they can be sued for way more money than they'll ever generate by grifting.
Who is going to sue them? What exactly can they be sued for?
The only reputation their statement is damaging to is an unnamed Chinese sub factory of their (now terminated) suppliers that nobody can identify, which isn't really grounds for a lawsuit. And if you could be sued just for lying, politicians would be sued every day.

>>11626284
And what will you say when they put new licenses/items up for pre-order before fulfilling their existing obligations? Because the press release makes it clear that they intend to do just that.

>>11626357
>you can't sue for tort and libel comments
retard
Companies get sued all the time for making false claims and saying a Chinese c ompany did something wrong would hurt their business, which if false, could net them a huge amount of money in a lawsuit
Unlike China, the US would allow such a lawsuit to happen.

And this is probaly why Interplay had to get involved, because since China protects their companies from legal actions when they rip off their partners, Interplay probably had to threaten that no American company would ever work with them again, since they're actually a big company.
China is super f ucking corrupt and threatening their money source is the only way to make them do anything.

>>11626367
It's normal to do that.
Since it takes over a year to produce a toy, if they want to release anything within a suitable time frame, they have to a couple of things in the pipeline.
There's be a year+ gap between releases if they did what you're trying to say and people would either forget the company even exists.

If PDNA released the Earthworm Jim figure tomorrow and then have nothing released until 2027, would you think that the company failed?
They're a business and they have to have more than one product released every year if they actually want to make a living from being a toy company.

I doubt the owners think of this as a hobby.

>>11626423
>would hurt their business
You can't hurt their business if they were never identified. Which they weren't.
Retard.

>>11626423
>And this is probaly why Interplay had to get involved
>Interplay probably had to threaten that no American company would ever work with them again
Read the OP again. Interplay didn't do anything. Premium DNA hired a company that specialises in protecting IP rights from infringement.
>East IP is a leading firm in China assisting American companies in enforcing their intellectual property rights against infringements. See WWW.East-IP.com for more information on the firm.

>East IP has been representing Premium DNA since mid 2024 in investigating and pursuing legal solutions against infringements of our rights as well as those of our licensors, such as Interplay.

They aren't representing Interplay. Interplay didn't hire them to protect the Earthworm Jim IP.

>>11626443
If a male worker at a company shit talks his unnamed manager/boss on a news outlet, falsely saying that they hurt/harassed/raped/robbed them, they'd get sued fast, retard.
Just because they're not named doesn't mean it's not easy to check who their boss is, just like the company PDNA worked with. If you're part of the industry, it's easy to check, hence PDNA having Interplay intercede on their behalf to threaten the factory about their future work prospects.

You sound like a stupid child who thinks just because you could lie about stupid shit on the school yard, it's totally okay to do it in the business world.

And I hope you'er some dumbshit kid, instead of a full grown adult with a simplistic world view.

>>11626451
I love third worlders who don't understand english
>Our partners at Interplay have been supportive in helping us protect our contractual rights, and their ownership rights, in China.

>>11626487
>supportive
I love third worlders that don't understand the definitions of English words.

>>11626519
>>11626487
Neither of these anons but supportive can be code for a lot of things in coded business speak.

>>11626487
>PDNA having Interplay intercede on their behalf to threaten the factory about their future work prospects
Where does PDNA say that Interplay threatened the factory on their behalf?

>>11626522
>supportive can be code for a lot of things in coded business speak.
Nice to see there's another adult in this thread.

>>11626535
What do you think "support" means? It's not cheerleading.

When dealing with China, because their laws are extremely flimsy and nonexistant when it comes to American companies trying to not get cheated, the only way to make a Chinese company to do what they want is by threatening to withhold and tell others that their factory is going to rip other people off or withhold further business from them.

Since PDNA is basically a nobody, there's no way they could have forced the factory to comply with their contract. Hence "Interplay have been supportive in helping us protect our contractual rights, and their ownership rights, in China."
So not only did Interplay help PDNA get the factory to fuflfilll their contractual obligations, but Interplay also threatened the Chinese factory for selling Interplay's intellectual property without a license.

There's literally no reading inbetween the lines with this, because they outright state that they needed to pull a two prong approach for the Chinese factory to stop fucking up.

>>11626578
>What do you think "support" means? It's not cheerleading
So they didn't say it, and you are jumping to conclusions.
"Supportive" can mean anything between "cheerleading but they don't really give a fuck since they already got paid for the license, but they need to pretend they care to deter future piracy" to Interplay fronting the money or footing the bill for PDNA to hire East IP, to supplying documentation proving that PDNA is the sole licensee for EWJ.
It does not automatically mean that they threatened the factory on PDNA's behalf.

>>11626578
>Since PDNA is basically a nobody, there's no way they could have forced the factory to comply with their contract.
Sorry, I hit post before addressing this.
Why the fuck do you think they hired East IP? What do you think East IP do? Did you even look at their website?

>>11626587
IT literally says that they protected their own ownership rights
That doesn't mean cheerleading, child.

This isn't playground rules like you keep on trying to imply. There's a lot of money involved in this, so what do you think happens when a company is cheating you out on hundreds of thousands of dollars? Serious question, because you sound like a child.

Two other companies are involved, and for any of that to be false, like you were earlier trying to say, opens them up to lawsuits.

>>11626589
I didn't have to look them up to know that they're an intermediary company, because laws for westerners means mean jack shit in China. First world countries don't need that sort of shit, but that's just another example of how China loves to rip everyone else off.
No doubt, China is proud of that.

>>11626626
>so what do you think happens when a company is cheating you out on hundreds of thousands of dollars? Serious question, because you sound like a child.
I think they hire a company like East IP that knows and understands how to maneuver through the intricacies of Chinese law instead of getting a barely relevant computer game company to make empty threats just because they are the IP holder of a bunch of dead franchises.
>and for any of that to be false, like you were earlier trying to say
My position has always been that PDNA are lying through omission. I was one of the anons that posted the initial rumour last year that the figures showing up on AE were being sold out the backdoor by the factory because PDNA refused to pay them. I don't doubt that they were being sold without a license to do so. But I don't think PDNA are telling the full story, and the owners have a history of telling half truths and shifting the blame.
>I didn't have to look them up to know that they're an intermediary company
And yet you keep saying Interplay is doing all the threatening when East IP wasn't even hired by Interplay?
I think you are massively overestimating the amount of influence Interplay has. You are acting like they have Microsoft levels of influence, when the fact is that they are barely much bigger than PDNA. What was the last game they released? The Baldurs Gate rerelease 5 years ago? I doubt a factory would give a shit if they threatened them. They are nobody. Someone that knows how to bring the CCP jackboots down on them? That would be a valid threat. Lego spent years fighting bootleggers, but it wasn't until they made deals with the CCP that they successfully shut down Lepin.

>>11626677
>My position has always been that PDNA are lying through omission.
LMAO
So basically, you made up a schizo theory and because they didn't acknowledge your schizo theory that they're obviously lying?

Fucking LOL

BTW, you haven't answered my question

There's a lot of money involved in this, so what do you think happens when a company is cheating you out on hundreds of thousands of dollars?

And i don't get what you're trying to bring up EAST IP. They're an intermediary company and they're doing shit on behalf of PDNA and Interplay. Do you even understand what a intermediary company is? Because you don't seem to understand business shit, hence me wondering what you think a company can even do when a Chinese factory is ripping you off.

>>11626693
>So basically, you made up a schizo theory and because they didn't acknowledge your schizo theory that they're obviously lying?
No, I suspect they are lying because that is what they have done for the majority of their time in the toy industry. I didn't make up the "schizo theory." And it turned out that half of the "schizo theory" was spot on.
>BTW, you haven't answered my question

>There's a lot of money involved in this, so what do you think happens when a company is cheating you out on hundreds of thousands of dollars?
I answered it in the very first paragraph of the post you just replied to. How much do you struggle with the English language? Is it because you are an ESL, or are a medically diagnosed retard?
>And i don't get what you're trying to bring up EAST IP.
Of course you don't. You think a tiny game publisher that hasn't been relevant for 20 years stepped into the room swinging their big balls and the factory cowered to their threats.

>>11626697
Saying "they hired an intermediary company" is a nonanswer, because I'm asking YOU what you think happens.

You don't seem to understand what happens when your company is being led on by a chinese factory, promising everything is great and going as ordered, until samples start arriving completely borked, leading to year long delays, that is costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars in your investments and time.
What do you think their options are when this shit happens? How do you think you can force the factory to comply with their contract that they signed? Why do you think it's so common for Chinese factories to renege in the first place?
Because Chinese factories promising one thing and then not doing it is a common occurrence in the toy industry. There's been at least a dozen kickstarters that never were finished thanks to China ripping an indie company off, hence PDNA needing Interplay to help them out.

And your schizo theory is nothing but schizo nonsense, because you're basically saying that everytime bootlegs show up, it's because Hasbro, Bandai, Good Smile, Kaiyodo, MEdicom, etc DIDN'T pay the factory?
Because we all know that it's just China just stealing shit like they always do, cheating their partners, and the factory that PDNA hired is doing the same shit.

>>11626704
>How do you think you can force the factory to comply with their contract that they signed?
You quite literally hire an intermediary/lawyer proficient in Chinese law to find a way to get them to comply.
You don't make empty threats of "you'll never get a western license again" when you are a two bit games publisher, because I know what Chinese factories do when they get weakass threats like that. The factory gets "sold" to a new company that is definitely not a subsidiary of the same company that was previously running it, and the factory manager Lu Wei gets replaced by his brother Lu Shun that looks suspiciously exactly like his brother that was just removed from the position.
>And your schizo theory is nothing but schizo nonsense
Weird, because the part where the figures showing up on AE were being supplied by the factory illegally was true, so half of the "schizo theory" wasn't so schizo at all.
>because you're basically saying that everytime bootlegs
No I'm not saying that, because according to PDNA these were the figures that failed QC and were returned to the factory. This is why nobody that has preordered the figures through official channels has actually received them, because the factory onsold the entire production run to AliExpress sellers after they were returned to them. Premium DNA took delivery of the figures and returned them to the factory according to their statement here >>11625744 so it's not the same situation as bootleg Figmas or Revoltechs that are usually made with cloned molds. These were supposed to be the figures that people received, and in between the figures getting sent back to the factory, and when PDNA were supposed to get them back after the revisions, something happened, and PDNA won't say what that is. There is a gap in the story, and the guys that run PDNA have as much of a history of being scammers as your average Chinese factory manager.

>>11626423
>
>If PDNA released the Earthworm Jim figure tomorrow and then have nothing released until 2027, would you think that the company failed?

Yes because they're scam artists and it's better to pay $10 for an earth worm Jim knowing none of that money is going to an American

>>11626719
>my schizo theory isn't schizo if there's half a truth in it
amazing schizo logic

And that's great how you keep avoiding answering how businesses works by saying
>don't ask me, I'm just a girl. I let my dad handle it all for me
and you've already proven you don't understand, hence your schizo theories and playground logic.

And the fact that you think "I'll start a brand new factory" shows exactly how ignorant you are, because now your "new" factory is unproven, without a reputation, and most western companies already know this trick.
After 30 years of China pulling this shit, they know to avoid factories like this. This is why a lot of companies were already pulling away from having their shit manufactured in China, before COVID and tariffs happened.

China is just too full of frauds, including the Chinese government.

Nevermind that according to OPs statements, the factory did compile. So the actions that PDNA did worked.

>No I'm not saying that,
That's exactly what you're saying, hence your mental gymnastics.

>>11626753
>amazing schizo logic
Why would the factory actually ship the figures and then wait for them to be sent back to them to finally pull a fast one? It's a pretty reasonable theory to anyone that doesn't have a raging hateboner for China, especially since they have a history of not paying their bills.

Stop communicating with the crazy person in here. This is exactly what they wanted to happen. To flood this thread with gibberish to stop people from diving into it and realizing what is actually going on (Premium DNA is a scam artist company and people should always avoid them at all costs)

>>11626793
>why would a Chinese factory pretend everything is fine and send out shoddy defective products to pretend to fulfill their contract because they know their shady government will protect their fraudulent efforts
Obviously something was wrong with whatever they sent, since PDNA didn't send ship any orders out.

And that's IF they even received all their stock. Most times, a company will delay shipping anything out if they aren't able to get most of their stock in, because it'd be unfair to other stores. Getting in late stock can kill sales for one store and this is why we've seen delays for other toys from other companies.

Chinese companies love being paid twice. It's a common occurrence for Chinese factories to purposely fuck up manufacturing or use the cheapest materials they could, and then play stupid when the product comes out all wrong. IT's totally not their fault and then expect another payment to do it right.

And this sounds exactly what happened, because everything sounds like it finished over a year ago and because PDNA had to send in their lawyers and get Interplay involved to force the Chinese factory to finally comply with their contract. So everything is finally being shipped correctly.

... unless the statement is a complete fabrication, but that's unlikely, given how they'd be sued pretty easily. Getting sued is by two companies is a million times worse than dealing with a bankruptcy, because they can lose their house and car. Bankruptcy ends at the business. Lawsuits are personal.

>>11626859
The walls of text aren’t going to stop until staff step in.

>>11627115
>Chinese companies love being paid twice.
So the schizo theory that the factory asked for more money after they sent back the stock and PDNA refused to pay actually is a possibility.
Thanks for playing Subby.
>>11627155
He did this to the last meta thread until it got pruned. That is his tactic. Shitting up threads until they become unusable. He is also why the board can't have a sticky.

>>11627180
It's a schizo theory because you made it up out of thin air.

you're a third worlder without an education and you think that PDNA is lying based on nothing but "i hate PDNA, thus they am bad"

All we know on what's happened is whatever PDNA has said, which is that the Chinese factory cheated them and everything was put on hold due to the legal process of getting the Chinese factory to fulfill their contract.
And now that PNDA has won their legal claims against the Chinese factory, theyre finally able to start fulfill orderings.

>>11627471
>All we know on what's happened is whatever PDNA has said, which is that the Chinese factory cheated them and everything was put on hold due to the legal process of getting the Chinese factory to fulfill their contract.

Nah PDNA is a scam company because Americans can't make anything and do nothing but lie

>>11627471
>you're a third worlder without an education
>theyre finally able to start fulfill orderings.
Orderings? What ESL version of English are you using? Did your Spanish to English translator break again?

>>11627471
>And now that PNDA has won their legal claims against the Chinese factory, theyre finally able to start fulfill
Sure buddy. Any day now. Two more weeks.

>>11627471
why not fulfill during the case? Are they going to have to make all the figures all over again to fulfill them?

>>11627624
>Are they going to have to make all the figures all over again to fulfill them?
Yes.
From the OP.
>There will be many noticeable fixes to the figures’ plastics, deco, articulation, and scaling.
Sounds like they will be entirely new molds. I don't know why the scaling of the figures would need to be fixed. They must have never checked the preproduction samples once with the first batch.

>>11627634
Given how much the tooling costs that is no minor endeavor to have to retool the figures. I wonder if they even got the original tools from the original factory or if they're totally lost.

>>11627634
>I don't know why the scaling of the figures would need to be fixed
Professor Monkey for a Head is really big for some reason, not sure if that was intended or if they somehow screwed it up in production. Beyond that I don't know what else they'd mean by scaling.

>>11627652
>I wonder if they even got the original tools from the original factory or if they're totally lost.
If they didn't finish paying the original factory (which appears to be the case), there's no shot they'll get the tooling. Which makes all this bullshit story even more unbelievable. Tooling is the most expensive cost of production by far. Do I believe for a second they are going to spend like $50K on new tooling for figures that already exist that many fans already purchased? Fuck no. It doesn't make business sense. This is a small IP, not like we're talking Marvel or DC where there are millions of fans. The fan base who was interested probably already got figures. This just doesn't make any sense at all to do.

>>11627624
Because from the sound of their statement, the entire point of PDNA trying to sue their Chinese factory was to force them complete their contract. Their money is all tied into that factory and they just wanted the work to be completed, so they had to wait on their case being won to get the $$$ and tooling back.
Do not that only the supplier was terminated and that it was a "sub factory" that fucked shit up. This means the "main" factory could have completed the job for them. So the money wasn't refunded and the tools were just moved around internally.
PDNA states that there were a lot of issues with their figures, which we assume was also the case with whatever they sent and who knows if they even finished sending all the stock that they ordered (if it was sent at all).

So they literally can't send out any stock, since a lot of stores would have a massive problem if one store gets their stock a year ahead of them, because that's how long it takes for a toy to get made. They can't send out half their orders without pissing off their customers.

>>11627571
I'm sorry that i make typos. Must b a hdch for you turd worlders that your AI won't fully tnraslnate my pests to you and you have to use your own brian to read it. A natural Ingrish speaker who finished HS will be able to glide through it.
And i love how you can't deny your schizo theory is a schizo theory, because it's completely made up, so you needed to nitpick at my typo.

>>11627925
What is your interest in this situation that drives you to waste your time typing these pages and pages of babble for a week straight? You very clearly aren't a regular /toy/ poster. What is your deal?

>>6
What's your interest in this topic that you spend so much time trying to shitpost?
Is this an implication that you're a Chinese general who wants to imprison all Chinese minorities to make room for more Chinese factories and drive labor costs down by using political prisoners, thus need to pretend your factories don't rip off American companies?

I can read English, completed college, know a little about business, and someone asked a question that can be easily answered if you read the OP. Doesn't take more than a few minutes of my time to answer. This post took me a minute to write. So why not?

>>11627949
>>11627965
You're clearly samefagging this fake china argument with yourself. It's not fooling anyone.

>>11627925
>I'm sorry that i make typos
Using completely wrong words because you don't know how to speak English isn't a typo, hombre.

Most people I saw here who bought the Ewj figures off Ali said they were fine. I wonder how they could've been considered rejected?

>>11628070
>I wonder how they could've been considered rejected?
They're not. Nobody believes their bullshit. Other than the odd QC issue here or there that most toylines have, the majority of the figures have been fine.

>>11628070
We have no idea. The only way we'll ever know is if they actually put out official approved ones so people can compare.

>>11628130
Except they've already claimed the new batch will have fixes to articulation and scaling, so it sounds like they will be using completely different tooling, so it will be hard to do a direct comparison.
And if something like the scale is being fixed, that is an indicator that the figures were approved all the way from test shots to production samples without them realising that they were the wrong scale, only to then decide they were unacceptable after production was complete. What else did they miss with the production samples that they then retroactively decided wasn't good enough?

>>11628142
maybe the first problem was the scaling issue, but it was fixed but the factory started to fuck with the QC? They knew they fucked up, fixed it, but realized it cost them money, and then purposely fucked up other things to get paid again. Chinese companies do shady shit like this.
And the factory selling the figures just means that they only sold the ones that weren't fucked up.

All we really know for sure is whatever PDNA has said.

>>11627968
Yeah, it's going to sound like samefagging if I'm going to use his logic to show how schizo he sounds.

>>11627971
>a typo isn't a typo because
ok third worlder

>>11628281
>i accidentally added a bunch of letters to form a different word. It was just a typo and not because English is my second language
Ok gringo. How about all the other times you've butchered the English language like the border jumper you are? We've watched you struggle with the English language for over a decade now. It's too late to pretend it was a typo.

>>11628281
Why would they do all that and then be kind enough to only sell the figures that weren't fucked up

>>11628070
I ordered 2 figures from 2 different sellers and both had plastic missing from the chest where the mold didn’t fill, straps on the chest that are half-torn, sloppy paint, one had a broken holster and the other had a broken backpack. If they aren’t rejects they are definitely shit quality.

>>11628531
already binned them, they weren’t worth keeping
plenty of the ones on youtube seemed to suffer from the same issues though

>>11628299
Nta, but because every toy manufacturer believes that the low cost justifies all the bs. And if any tried to break with the orthodoxy by making toys somewhere with higher costs they would go out of business because their prices would not be competitive and consumers wouldn't buy

>>11628501
It's not being kind, it's not being retarded, because they know a toy with defects isn't going to sell. Apparently the distributor or shipping company was involved (hence being terminated), so naturally they want whatever they bought from the factory to sell through, instead of holding onto garbage that normally gets recycled or thrown away.

>>11628510
or not.
So people were only pretending that the EWJ figures were perfectly fine? If two vendors have defects, it isn't just one vendor just wanting anything to have something to sell and that there's a bigger issue going on... such as a factory trying to scam the toy company with shoddy products, which is why PDNA won their claim

>>11628846
>So people were only pretending that the EWJ figures were perfectly fine?
Not necessarily. Here are two anons that posted their Jims that didn't have missing plastic on the chest or broken straps.
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/11020506/#11020506
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/11204520/#11207190
That said, I did see other reports of the suspenders being an issue, like this anon.
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/11057105/#11057105
I don't know why you act like everything is an all or nothing situation.

>>11628938
the way certain have been acting in this thread, it made it seem like there was nothing wrong with the stolen figures being sold on aliexpress, hence even >>11628070 questioning if there even was a QC issue.

>>11628846
Anon, this is aliexpress they are selling on. A worse scam site has never been devised. They aren't going to tell people that the figures have flaws.

>>11621697
>a leading firm in China assisting American companies in enforcing their intellectual property rights against infringements

the insanity of this statement gave me aids

>>11621991
they were pretty good prototypes though. nice sculptin.
>>11622225
I knew something looked off
>>11622643
that's basically every company for the last 40 years. 'keep your lips zipped no matter what happens or you're blacklisted'

>>11635438
>that's basically every company for the last 40 years. 'keep your lips zipped no matter what happens or you're blacklisted'
There's that AND if you say one false thing, even mistakenly or typoed, it can make your case fail or keep you from getting MAXIMUM compensation.
Even if you SOUND malicious in any sort of way, it can be used against you in your lawsuit.

And that can extend for years afterward.

Lawyers and agreements are shit. IT's why you generally never hear creators bad mouth media companies who butcher their creations, unless they're burning bridges.
See also pretty much any high profile case that never went to court over the past 5 years where a news publication claimed a person did something evil, and now that person is a set for life, but you haven't heard from them again, because media company pushed for a settlement.

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>>11635437
Thank you. Anyone who knows anything about how much Chinese companies care about the IP of other international companies knows damn well this is a whole load of bullshit from PDNA.

>>11635816
Does IP even exist in Chinese law?

OR

If Premium DNA is really acting in good faith with their customers

why not just offer the people who pre-ordered product from them, years ago at this point, a full refund as a way out of this mess? At least make the offer, do something, right?